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Neuromancer


The Fictional Earth Space Agency's Construction Yards,

the successor to NASA

It is a common theme in Science Fiction and Dystopian Imagination the taking for granted for a Human Space-faring

Civilsation such as that in Star Wars, Star Trek, Starship Troopers, Alien, Babylon 5 and with the latest concept in Avatar

and so on. With variations as to the level idealised setting for the subset of events. Characters in such geo-political

configurations interact inside the over-arching environment without a political-economy and history leading to its present

personal storylines.

This brief comment will seek to address this Science-Fiction to Science-Fact Gap.

This thread will seek to address the gap analysis necessary to fill the space where Earth Civilisation makes the Great Leap

Forward to become a solar and stellar civilisation.

If I could bring up the concept of the Law of the Sea [1] (LOS) is an international treaty designed ostensibly for the purpose

of regulating the national frontiers in regards to oceans.

There is a subset in the above international agreement [2] that came into force by virtue of a number of countries signing

the a common agreement to explore and mine deep sea polymetalic nodules [3]; this particular intergovernmental treaty

as an entity is charged with pooling collective resources by the member nations to fund vessels, mine and market minerals

from the nodules in the World Markets.

Consider if we could take this Underwater Sea Treaty upside down and turn it to Outer Space?

Then, the creation of a NASA-like organization like the International Seabed Organisation at global level to explore

space and mine precious and rare minerals.

So far, exploring space is a very risky, time-consuming, expensive endeavour which involves the spending of billions in the

design, manpower, and training and manufacturing over several years, how can we create a Global NASA or even better

“Global Association for Space Exploration” (GASE)?

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Alien:Nostromo, the first of the future's Mining Fleet

A World Treaty would have to agreed by an at least five countries (mid or large size economies) to enable the pooling of

national resources to effect the exploration of space. However, exploration per se does not bring economic benefits. Given

the prevalence of the Neo-Malthusian concept of resource depletion to date, a number of transnational corporations as a

consortium could strongly argue for the search, exploration and mining of Earth’s Moon and Asteroid Belt.

Political influence would be felt as a political discourse at first. But returning to the Special Earth Fleet Charter. It could be a

highly profitable endevour. This is not the first time this could occur, previously there have been a series chartered

companies incorporated with special rights by national governments to the monopoly use and marketing of commodities

such was the case of the East India Company [4]. With the benefit of Monopoly Profits (which bar the working of

conventional Free Market as we know it) the funding of the Earth’s Space Fleet could become self-funding at a later stage

with ongoing windfall profits from monopoly price-setting by the seller.

In a previous post regarding the World Central Bank [5] could fund and float securities in the world markets to absorb the

default risk of funding such Megaprojects such as the Space Shipyards, the Exploration and Mining Fleets.

One of the unanticipated effects of this GASE, would be the creation of a powerful transnational business consortiumrequiring the use of more resources to absorb the losses, recruit personnel and most important of perpetuate itself as a

politically influential organisation. The existence of Global Government with the ability to summon the resources in

funds and manpower makes it a viable option.

First, it would have to effect change at the level National and International Government with its requirement as to training,

hardware, recruitment and energy acquisition. The costs of Research and Development would have to be increased and

time accelerated and offloaded to society at large (socialised costs).

Another aspect is the Militarism, which could be highly lucrative to transnational business consortia when the future Global

Government has competitive Space War for Resources through Military Keynesianism at Global Level [6] (against a

Confederate UN if you may), this would create an artificial demand for the military industries’ products. The financial and

economic power of the Global Consortium then would have such political leverage that it will require a statist [7] solution to

rationalise the management of society along either corporate state or scientific/technocratic [8] lines.

Aliens: Sulaco, Space Marines for patriotism and corporate profit

What it is not known and remains bound to speculation is whether the future international consortium will use its financial

might to subvert (global coup d’état unless the world govt is of their own making in the first place) the global government

and turn it into a strong statist state of either Fascist, Corporativist or Socialist kinds in order to ensure the achievement of

its financial prerogatives. To ensure the profitability of the Global Space Program, the cartelisation and guarantee special

monopoly rights have to be achieved.

Barring the annihilation of the Capitalist Cartels as it has the actual economic resources to fight off ‘socialistic’ government

policies in the future Free World Trade [9] Scenario (due to disarmament, states have no final resort, without borders),

then, we are left with an outright Corporate State thinly disguised by a floor welfare state put under pressure. However the

effects on the rest of the world’s remaining competitive and free enterprise will suffer the effects of investment capital

shortages (seen in high inflation, high interest rates due to the activities of co-sponsors in the World Central Bank) as the

Global Space Program begins to drain resources and manpower from the rest of the world economy.












However on the positive side if the Great Leap Forward succeeds and the resources are acquired by the Space Mining Fleet,

the resource oversupply (rare ores, high value metals, high energy minerals) would crash its prices on the other hand,

limiting supply to achieve a reasonable pricing would pay off and remove the barrier for the Space Mining Fleet to finance

its further expansion without causing further dislocation to Earth’s Economy (politically untenable under a democracy).

Starship Troopers: A militarised and fascistic (statist)

World Government with an imperial ideology

The further expansion of the Space Mining Fleet with the new resources would allow the creation of the Space Fleet, first

military (could include ex-Marine Mercenaries) then civilian and the beginning of the Human Space Colonies.

To wonder at Humanity at 20 billion, more population growth would be needed as colonies become viable due to falling

costs of space travel and technological development enables environmental engineering in large scale.

Alien: Xenomorphic Species,

Space Quarantine, profit before Earth Security?

How far will Humanity reach into Space Exploration, Exploitation and Colonisation? Will our future political system at global

level degenerate into an authoritarian government, will Humanity’s evolution be thrown into chaos and disarray due to its

First Contact [10]? We can only speculate on the new challenges.

Avatar: Valkyrie ships on dock, The World Government's

Space Force Projection (equivalent to Nuclear Aircraft Carriers of today)

Even, to adapt to Space Environment, would humans re-write their own DNAs under a statist and eugenicist [11]

government to aid Colonisation of Space would require?

So many questions, so few answers…












The search and mining for Unobtainium has just began...

Notes

[1] Law of the Sea http://www.un.org/Depts/los/index.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_on_the_Law_of_the_Sea#UNCLOS_I

[2] Exploration and Mining Organisation for the Sea Floor, International Seabed Authority (ISA).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Seabed_Authority

[3] Polymetallic Nodules

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manganese_nodules

[4] East India Company http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company

[6] Military-Keynesianism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Keynesianism

To effect Force Projection at a spatial distance would require very extended logistics in similar vein to the present Nuclear-

powered aircraft carriers. Once again, this is possible with the economies of scale of a World Government enabling a World

Space Agency.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_carrier

[7]World Central Bank http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_bank

[8] Statism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statism

[9] Free Trade http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Trade

[10] First Contact http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_contact_(anthropology)

[11] Eugenics, new possibilities are open with the full human genome mapping to effect a more effective level human

genetic engineeringhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genome

Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:54 am

NexusInner Party Leader

Joined: Thu May 22, 2008 11:12 pmPosts: 1869Location: Airstrip North

Re: Dystopia Gap Analysis:Earth's Space Agency

I took the liberty of moving this thread, Neuromancer. I hope you don't mind. Anyhow, it's a top-notch analysis on a topic

ripe for debate.

I think it's both inevitable and necessary that mankind conquers space for the following reasons:

Shortage of raw materials. We may run out of several vital raw materials already during this century. For instance, if

we continue to consume nickel at the same rate as today, the supplies will only last about half a century according to

some calculations. Many, if not most or even all, of these raw materials can be found in asteroids, e.g. in the asteroid

belt between Mars and Jupiter.

Wikipedia wrote:

Asteroid mining refers to the possibility of exploiting raw materials from asteroids and planetoids in space,

especially near-Earth objects. Minerals and volatiles could be mined from an asteroid or spent comet to

provide space construction material (e.g., iron, nickel, titanium), or to return to Earth (e.g., platinum and

cobalt), to extract water and oxygen to sustain the lives of prospector-astronauts on site, and to extract

hydrogen and oxygen for use as rocket fuel. Even a relatively small metalic asteroid with a diameter of 1 mile

can contain more than $20 trillion US dollars worth of industrial and precious metals.

In fact, during Earth's molten youth more than four billion years ago, the extreme temperature and gravity

stripped all siderophilic (iron loving) metalic elements from the crust to the planet's core. All the gold, cobalt,

iron, manganese, molybdenum, nickel, osmium, palladium, platinum, rhenium, rhodium and ruthenium that



http://www.un.org/Depts/los/index.htm




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Keynesianism


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_bank

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Trade

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_contact_(anthropology)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics










http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_contact_(anthropology)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Trade

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_bank


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Keynesianism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company




http://www.un.org/Depts/los/index.htm



we now mine from the Earth's crust, and that are essential for our economic and technological development,

came originally from the rain of asteroids and comets that hit the Earth after the crust cooled.

In 2004, the world production of iron ore exceeded a billion metric tons. In comparison, a comparatively small

M-type asteroid with a mean diameter of 1 km could contain more than two billion metric tons of iron-nickel

ore, or two to three times the annual production for 2004. The asteroid 16 Psyche is believed to contain

1.7×1019 kg of nickel-iron, which could supply the 2004 world production requirement for several million

years. A small portion of the extracted material would also contain precious metals.

Overpopulation. This is obviously already a pressing issue and a second home for mankind would solve manyproblems. Earth-like, albeit not ideal planets have already been discovered and could be colonised in the future. The

vast distances will require the invention of FTL engines or the creation of generation ships, though. Orbital habitats

may possibly also be an option, although subterranean or submarine habitats probably are more feasible.

Unity. There are, in my opinion, very few things that can make all nations and ethnicities unite and stop fighting each

other. Obvious examples are the occurrence of a global cataclysm or the discovery of extraterrestrial life, but maybe

a grand endeavour like conquering space could serve the same purpose? If mankind can't unite eventually, it will risk

annihilating itself; the knowledge of doomsday weapons can't be erased from people's minds.

Stagnation. Throughout history, mankind has explored and expanded, which no doubt has encouraged progress and

innovation; the only period without it in Western history is called the Dark Ages. Mankind probably needs a frontier to

strive towards in order to evolve, and with the notable exception of the ocean depths, space is the only remaining

frontier.

Conquering space will probably require some kind of world government which at least allocates resources. This is one of

the reasons I think the creation of a world government is inevatible. I didn't want to bring it up as discussion tends to go off

on a tangent as soon as space is mentioned.

However, conquering space does not necessarily require world government. 1) Scientific break-throughs may make things

considerably easier. If for instance the enigma of gravitation is solved, e.g. if the graviton can be confirmed to exist,

there's no end to the possibilities. Notice that an undeveloped country, India, probably will be the next nation to launch a

manned space flight. 2) We spend enormous amounts of time, money, and resources on armament. If global or

near-global peace could be reached, all this could be spent on space colonisation instead. As they say: Had it not been for

the Vietnam war, there would have been an American moonbase today.

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Neuromancer


Quote:

In fact, during Earth's molten youth more than four billion years ago, the extreme temperature and gravity stripped

all siderophilic (iron loving) metalic elements from the crust to the planet's core.

All the gold, cobalt, iron, manganese, molybdenum, nickel, osmium, palladium, platinum, rhenium, rhodium and

ruthenium that we now mine from the Earth's crust, and that are essential for our economic and technological

development, came originally from the rain of asteroids and comets that hit the Earth after the crust cooled.

A number of these minerals are extractable from the 'Polymetalic Nodules' already from the Deep Ocean mining.

However if there should be enough market scarcity shown in high prices to warrant space mining in the first place then

there is economic justification as the Prime Mover. Cheapest solutions first though.

Quote:

However, conquering space does not necessarily require world government.

Indeed, we are thinking with the current technologies and resources, however we have not accounted that in the Future

with larger pools of capital, new technological discoveries and new breakthroughs in Physics the costs of Space Travel

Logistics could fall dramatically. In which case there could be an oversupply of commodities and resources to raise the

global standard of living. Thriving space exploration could be carried out by nation states. I think of Babylon 5 and the daily

issues of management and Earth Politics. Without wanting to digress off-topic, it looks like the Babylon 5 Universe Earth

arrived 'too early' at Space Civilisation Status with the Fascist-like (authoritarian corporate or militaristic keynesian) Earth

Administration.

Quote:

1) Scientific break-throughs may make things considerably easier.












If for instance the enigma of gravi tation is solved,

e.g. if the graviton can be confirmed to exist, there's no end to the possibilities.

Notice that an undeveloped country, India, probably will be the next nation to launch a manned space flight.

It would be fantastic for India to reach full Middle Class Status, there is so much to achieve, imagine the scientific

achievement of its citizens.

I believe the Newly Industraliasing Countries (NICs) were copying the Japanese Model for Industrialisation, this means that

ever faster a groundbreaking breakthrough, could come sooner.

Quote:

Overpopulation.

This is obviously already a pressing issue and a second home for mankind would solve many problems.

I hate to be a pain in the ass on the matter of Overpopulation, if I digress here; however it is a very dicy issue, if

mishandled it can send the Population into reverse below the replacement level which means slow death of a country

through ageing, there are a number of countries already in reverse population trends.

On the other hand, Overpopulation needs questions to be asked:

Who wants it?

What is the criteria for Overpopulation?

What are the issues of wealth distribution?

What is the status of Food/Agricultural Production?

Why it wants it?

What are the real reasons behind the concerns for overpopulation, besides the Neo-malthusian Discourse? Can poor people

be such a drain on resources when they can't consume them any way (low national income)?

Can Overpopulation continue with Industrialisation of the Agricultural Sector or move into First World Status instead by

NIC-style development?

Why is Overpopulation such a concern on the Third World Population of non-white races?

That's it, no more digression, this will be explored in a new thread.

Big Question for China and India, will they go into space to grow their populations and colonise it or will they keep their

population pressures for doubling on Earth on their neighbours? China and India face doubling of populations, so there is a

legitimate pressure for the nation-state to promote a rafter of policies.

The issue both countries industrialising will need markets and raw materials; both countries could go 'colonial'.

An ancillary question is whether the political and social system is equipped to deal Space Exploration Technologies and not

indulge in the Learning Curve of the West with New Technologies, no one wants a Soviet Union or a Nazi Germany with

Weapons of Mass Destruction in Space or bring the conflict to Earth. Science is great with India and China, however China

lacks a Democracy and its State is enmeshed with the PLA and the Corporate Sector for Capitalistic Profits.

Quote:

Conquering space will probably require some kind of world government which at least allocates resources. This isone of the reasons I think the creation of a world government is inevatible. I didn't want to bring it up as discussion

tends to go off on a tangent as soon as space is mentioned.

Not quite, the World Government has to much political and ideological footprint on national sovereignty, there is another

possible deal reached either by Japan, USA or the EU in partnership with either India and China.

Manpower, plus the Capital and the Technological knowhow to construct the Megaproject in the Space Race to the Stars.

Both China and India are r ivals for resources, markets and that classic Lebensraum.

Quote:

2) We spend enormous amounts of time, money, and resources on armament.

If global or near-global peace could be reached, all this could be spent on space colonisation instead.

Indeed we are saddled with the present Military-Industrial Complex and its Financial System that feeds on the ProductiveWorld Economy and its Opaque Veil of Ideology that muddles clarity among the masses.

So much wasted capital, raw materials, human labor and enterprise, this is a real Dead Hand. The question is, if it will

compromise Economic Development at Large by being able to subdue national and global economics and politics. The only

recourse left is the hard option: The Dead Hand must be cut off, but will it kill the patient?

Mon Feb 15, 2010 5:10 pm

NexusInner Party Leader


Neuromancer wrote:

Quote:

In fact, during Earth's molten youth more than four billion years ago, the extreme temperature and gravity












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stripped all siderophilic (iron loving) metalic elements from the crust to the planet's core.

All the gold, cobalt, iron, manganese, molybdenum, nickel, osmium, palladium, platinum, rhenium, rhodium

and ruthenium that we now mine from the Earth's crust, and that are essential for our economic and

technological development, came originally from the rain of asteroids and comets that hit the Earth after the

crust cooled.

A number of these minerals are extractable from the 'Polymetalic Nodules' already from the Deep Ocean mining.

However if there should be enough market scarcity shown in high prices to warrant space mining in the first place

then there is economic justification as the Prime Mover. Cheapest solutions first though.

In the long run, it may not only be a question of profit; it may be a question of survival.

Neuromancer wrote:

Quote:

However, conquering space does not necessarily require world government.

Indeed, we are thinking with the current technologies and resources, however we have not accounted that in the

Future with larger pools of capital, new technological discoveries and new breakthroughs in Physics the costs of

Space Travel Logistics could fall dramatically. In which case there could be an oversupply of commodities and

resources to raise the global standard of living. Thriving space exploration could be carried out by nation states.

Yes, that's a possible development, although we perhaps should be careful to take it for granted. Closer international

cooperation may also be sufficient for carrying out such a grand project. Just look at the International Space Station: Even

in these turbulent times, the USA, Russia, the EU, and Japan have managed to unite and create the most expensive object

in human history together. It's strange that this fantastic project gets so little media attention.

Neuromancer wrote:

I think of Babylon 5 and the daily issues of management and Earth Politics. Without wanting to digress off-topic, it

looks like the Babylon 5 Universe Earth arrived 'too early' at Space Civilisation Status with the Fascist-like

(authoritarian corporate or militaristic keynesian) Earth Administration.

An interesting parallel, but not necessarily applicable. In Babylon 5, there's after all a strong external, i.e. extraterrestrial,

enemy.

Neuromancer wrote:

Quote:

1) Scientific break-throughs may make things considerably easier.

If for instance the enigma of gravitation is solved,

e.g. if the graviton can be confirmed to exist, there's no end to the possibilities.

Notice that an undeveloped country, India, probably will be the next nation to launch a manned space flight.

It would be fantastic for India to reach full Middle Class Status, there is so much to achieve, imagine the scientific

achievement of its citizens.

At the same time, it's a bit depressing. Considering India's problems with poverty and starvation, they should probably not

give space exploration high priority.

Neuromancer wrote:

I believe the Newly Industraliasing Countries (NICs) were copying the Japanese Model for Industrialisation, this

means that ever faster a groundbreaking breakthrough, could come sooner.

A break-through might come sooner than we think. Cross your fingers that firing the Large Hadron Collider will generate

some interesting results.












Neuromancer wrote:

Quote:

Overpopulation.

This is obviously already a pressing issue and a second home for mankind would solve many problems.

I hate to be a pain in the ass on the matter of Overpopulation, if I digress here.

Be a pain the ass as much as you like. When we start taking disputable things for granted we begin to stagnate

intellectually.

Neuromancer wrote:

[H]owever it is a very dicy issue, if mishandled it can send the Population into reverse below the replacement level

which means slow death of a country through ageing, there are a number of countries already in reverse population

trends.

Obviously, overpopulation is almost exclusively a Third World problem.

Neuromancer wrote:

On the other hand, Overpopulation needs questions to be asked:

Who wants it?

What is the criteria for Overpopulation?

What are the issues of wealth distribution?

What is the status of Food/Agricultural Production?

Why it wants it?

What are the real reasons behind the concerns for overpopulation, besides the Neo-malthusian Discourse? Can poor

people be such a drain on resources when they can't consume them any way (low national income)?

Can Overpopulation continue with Industrialisation of the Agricultural Sector or move into First World Status instead

by NIC-style development?

Why is Overpopulation such a concern on the Third World Population of non-white races?

If I may be a tad cynical, it's just a matter of egoism. "They" have what "we" want. In other words, developed countries

need the resources of undeveloped countries to maintain their high standard of living. The larger the population in

undeveloped countries, the more of their resources they will consume themselves.

Neuromancer wrote:

That's it, no more digression, this will be explored in a new thread.

Well, I never mind digression if it's interesting.

Neuromancer wrote:

Big Question for China and India, will they go into space to grow their populations and colonise it or will they keep

their population pressures for doubling on Earth on their neighbours? China and India face doubling of populations,

so there is a legitimate pressure for the nation-state to promote a rafter of policies.

I think it's mostly a matter of national pride so far.

Neuromancer wrote:

The issue both countries industrialising will need markets and raw materials; both countries could go 'colonial'.

Indeed. One could claim that the PRC already has.

Neuromancer wrote:

An ancillary question is whether the political and social system is equipped to deal Space Exploration Technologies

and not indulge in the Learning Curve of the West with New Technologies, no one wants a Soviet Union or a Nazi












Germany with Weapons of Mass Destruction in Space or bring the conflict to Earth. Science is great with India and

China, however China lacks a Democracy and its State is enmeshed with the PLA and the Corporate Sector for

Capitalistic Profits.

I think we should be more worried about what they can do on Earth already today.

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Neuromancer wrote:

Quote:

Conquering space will probably require some kind of world government which at least allocates resources.

This is one of the reasons I think the creation of a world government is inevatible. I didn't want to bring it up

as discussion tends to go off on a tangent as soon as space is mentioned.

Not quite, the World Government has to much political and ideological footprint on national sovereignty, there is

another possible deal reached either by Japan, USA or the EU in partnership with either India and China.

Manpower, plus the Capital and the Technological knowhow to construct the Megaproject in the Space Race to the

Stars.

Both China and India are rivals for resources, markets and that classic Lebensraum.

Well, how much does a world government really have to limit national sovereignty? Consider how much the UN and the EU

have accomplished without really limiting national sovereignty.

Neuromancer wrote:

Quote:

2) We spend enormous amounts of time, money, and resources on armament.

If global or near-global peace could be reached, all this could be spent on space colonisation instead.

Indeed we are saddled with the present Military-Industrial Complex and its Financial System that feeds on the

Productive World Economy and its Opaque Veil of Ideology that muddles clarity among the masses.

So much wasted capital, raw materials, human labor and enterprise, this is a real Dead Hand. The question is, if it

will compromise Economic Development at Large by being able to subdue national and global economics and

politics. The only recourse left is the hard option: The Dead Hand must be cut off, but will it kill the patient?

Well, I think there's just one way to go: Interdependency leads to peace. Interdependency is the reason Western nations

don't fight each other anymore.

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