A New Way to Buy a Digital Organ
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A New Way to Buy a Digital Organ
Andy Pierce
St. Mark’s Episcopal Church
Chenango Bridge, NY
Central New York Chapter of the American Guild of Organists
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A New Instrument
Aging 1980’s Johannus Electronic
Acoustic Problems in Church
Choir Loft Problems
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St. Mark’s Church
50 Year Old Building
170 (?) People Maximum
10:00 Principal Service, 1982 Hymnal
Musical Gifts
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February 2004Committee Formed
http://www.buchorgan.com/selecting.htmHave enough members, but not too manyMembers should know something about musicChurch organist should be on the committeeCommittee members must have time to look and listenA member who understands financesListen to the instrumentsBudgeting for a new church organ
5 members; 2 Vestry, 2 Organists, 2 choir members, the church treasurer, 1 organist as consultant, with 2 other choir members along often.And why are you the head?
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Round Up the Usual Suspects +
Allen, representative from Williamsport
Wicks
Rodgers-plus-
Organ Clearing House
The Rev. Cullie Mowers
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Education Phase
Our MissionNew Organ by Christmas 2004
Improve Acoustics
Pipe OrganConstruction Needs for Physical Changes
Our Budget for the Whole ProjectRoughly $50K
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Our Committee$500 Budget for travel, think sessions, etc.
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Frustrations
Difficult to Determine Real CostsOCH price versus Installed price
Construction for Choir Loft > $15K
Time to Build and Install
Salesmen2 manual vs 3 manual
Prices
CD’s
FUD
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Questions
Should you tell your sales rep what your budget is?Can you bargain on price?Volunteers for the committee?Ethics?Consultant?Fundraising?Service Contracts?Committee logistics
Travel together?Unanimous Decision?Decision Authority?
Listen for what?Authentic “pipe-like” sound, able to support our church music!Singing our hymns with aninstrument was critical for us!
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Online Resources
Organ Manufacturers WebsitesAllowed calling customers for opinions
http://organforum.comOpinionated People Around the World
Forum based
Interest Groups
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Smaller, Independent Manufacturers
Church Organ Systems
Used Cassavant
Phoenix
http://www.phoenixorgans.com
Road Trip to Vernon, NJ3 hour trip
Community concert featuring the Fauré Requiem
Phoenix Representative met us
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More Problems
Summer Schedules – travel difficult
What does a Phoenix sound like?Custom Designs (amps and speakers) and Installs in N.J.
Conflict in a committee – how to handle?
Money Issues
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Visit to TorontoPhoenix
3 Churches, 1 with pipe/digital hybridTravel up Friday night, tour Saturday, home Sat. night
Aha! MomentThis is not a mass produced instrumentThis is not a Catalog Buying ExperienceThese guys love organs and organ music!These guys have a lot of experience!These instruments all sound different and wonderful!The console touch was judged excellent by our organistsEvery Phoenix is a unique instrumentDon Anderson samples most of the stops himselfWilling and eager to discuss any aspect of organ buildingBoth conservative technology and advanced technology
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Keep Going?
Great Sound, 3 manual, affordable
Have we searched enough?
Last minute additionSmall builder with Walker Electronics
Johannus
Should we continue the search?
4 vote to buy a Phoenix, 1 abstentionAre we done or not?
Church description to Phoenix via church web site
Installation was first time in the church!
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Waiting…
Organ Design, waiting for build completion, delivery schedule, what’s going on?
Email as a way of life!200+ emails between representative and Phoenix company
First pictures of the console!!!
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Installation - Preparation
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Installation - Preparation
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Installation
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Installation Continued - Voicing
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Installation Complete
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Draining the Ocean
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Installation Complete
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Dedication ConcertPlayed by Don Anderson, president of Phoenix Organs, Peterborough, Ontario
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Lessons Learned
A New Way to Buy an Organ?Small manufacturer, leveraging technology and the webSeeking to stay small, build custom instrumentsDoing the stuff they do well, buying what they can
Amps, keyboards, etc.ConsoleSpeakersOrgan Samples – the heart and soul of digital instruments!
ServiceOld Johannus sold on eBay!!!
Is it for everyone?You need it when?Comfort zone of working with a small builder
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Lessons Learned (continued)
Work to improve your acoustics!Make it a part of the project
Get rid of carpet, sound absorbing materials
Ask about all the details“Tell us about your wiring”
Get a real surge suppressor
Call other customersRemember what you are buying an organ for!
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Lessons LearnedBuilt by Organists, for OrganistsPersonal relationship with builders
20 minute to ½ day email response to a question
Unqualified Recommendation of Phoenix to Others!Phoenix, Walker, M&O – others?OrganAssist2 Software for recording
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A New Way to Buy an Organ?Built by Organists, for OrganistsPersonal relationship with buildersReally an OLD Way to Buy an Organ
Trust with builderCraftsmenArtistsIndividual solutionsWork with the builder