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  • 2123/r/all With all this fat people hate nonsense going on in /r/all.. (self.Fitness)submitted6hoursago*byron_manager

    ...Iwasrefreshedtocomehereandseenoneofit.Nowwhetherthatisthemodsremovingstuffbeingpostedorjustthecommunityrisingaboveit,itisnicetosee.Everysanepersonknowsthathatingpeopledoesn'thelpthem,encouragementandeducationdoes.AsaformerfatpersonmyselfIsupposeIhaveadifferentperspectivetosomeother'fit'peoplebutlet'sallremembertohelppeopleimprove(ifthat'swhattheyaretryingtodo)andnotridiculethem.Andifyouareafatpersonreadingthispostwhoiswonderingwhattheotherpeopleinthegymarethinkingaboutyou,itisnotallthisbollocksbeingpostedonthissite.IthinkIcanspeakonbehalfofmostofusinthissubwhenIsaythatuponseeingafatpersoninthegymIthink'fuckinggoodonyamate'not'errryouarescum'.Weallstartedsomewhere.Edit:Becausethispostseemstobegettingquitepopularandwilllikelybeseenbyalotofpeople,someofwhomwillnotbesubscribedtothissub,IamgoingtopostacrudelymockedupprogresspictureofmyselfIjustmadeinpaintinthehopethatitcouldinspireoneortwopeopletomakesomepositivechangesintheirlife.IfIcandoityoucan.

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    Ithinkcensorshipisworsethanhatespeech.permalink

    [] JDeegs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ithinkmostfatpeoplehatecomesfrompreconceivednotionthattheyarelazyandwhatnot,whichyoucan'treallythinkaboutsomeonewho'sworkingtheirassoffinthegym.Idon'tknowifI'ddescribemyselfasafatpersonhater,butIknowitpissesmeoffwhenpeopleexercisewillful

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  • ignoranceandsaythey'reperfectlyhealthybecausetheyeatfruitandvegetablesandgoonwalks,despitebeingatleast50+poundsoverweight.Alsohatetheskinnyshamerspermalink

    [] proterozoic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Seriously...I'maskinnyfuck,butallthefatbullyinglatelymakesmesickonapersonallevel.Yeah,it'sapublichealthissue,butobesitydidn'tgetprevalentbecauseoverweightpeopledon'thatethemselvesenough.Thefatbashinghasnothingtodowithpromotinghealth,it'sjustassholeswhohavefoundanewgrouptheycanhateonwhiletryingtofrontsanctimoniousaboutit.permalink

    [] tentimestenis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    I'mnotfatbutIhatenonsensetoo.It'skindofstereotypicaltosaythat.Anyonecanhatenonsense,notjustfatpeople.permalink

    [] Caabha undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Wasn'tthereaverypopularpostherelastweekthatwasabouthowyoucanjudgeapersonspersonalitybytheirweight?Basicallyitwhittleddownto"Ithinkfatpeoplehaveshittypersonalities,andIdon'tcarewhoknowsit!"Thenwhereyouwouldexpectdownvotesandpeoplesaying,nahyouarekindofafuckingdick,yougotagreementand"noit'sokaytothinkthatway."Itfinallygotdeletedbutitwasprettypopularwhileitlasted.permalink

    [] MrRobinGoodfellow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Idontgiveashitwhatsizesexorracepeopleareinthegym.Ihatethemallequally,iftheyprocrastinateontheequipment:Useitorgetoutthewaysoothersarenotwastingtheretimewaiting15+minuteswhileyoulookatyourphoneorchatontheonlyavailablebenchpressetcetc.Guessitsapetpeeveofmine.permalink

    [] Waksman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Yeah,eversince,Isawagirlgetharrassedintodeletingheraccountaboutmakingapostabouthowshedidn'tenjoyrunningenjoyrunninginaclubwithabunchoffaster/thinnerpeople(seemsreasonabletome,Irunslow,soIlikerunningalone),I'vedetestedthatsub.Shewasdoingtherightthingandchangingherlifeandthosepeoplejustmadeherfeelsoshitty.Fuckeveryonethattakespartinthattypeofthing.permalink

    [] foiltime undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Well,therewasn'tanythingaboutit....untilnow.permalink

    [] Got5BeesForAQuarter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Maybetheadminsshouldjustworryaboutcleaningupthreadandletgooftheiregos.Iamnotsureifthisisaboutfreedomofspeechorjustpointlessdramaanymore.AndthishasnothingtodowithchangesMs.Paohadmadeforsure.

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    [] SysLordX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thankyou.permalink

    [] KanadaKid19 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    IfeellikeitstartedoverherethreeweeksagowhentheydecidedtobanlinkstotheBroScienceLifechannelafterthe"dadbod"videocameout,butthemods'announcementthreadaboutthedecisionwasdownvotedtozerosonooneeverreallysawtheannouncementtogetoutraged.I'mstillnotconvincedweallknowthathappened?permalink

    [] atarigod2600 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thesubsthatwerebannedprimarilymockedpeoplewhodefendedbeingoverweightandobeseashealthyandokay.permalink

    [] StalinWasAJerk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ashittysubredditfullofcuntswasbanned.Theyproceedtoactlikecunts.permalink

    [] Scott555 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Whodoesn'tunderstandthishasnothingtodowiththeparticularsubjectmatterofthesubsthatgotbanned?It'sthefacttheydiditandtheirstatedreasonsfordoingit.Tellsomeonethey'renotpermittedtosayfuck,whathappens?Youhearalotoffuck.permalink

    [] ichosethis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ihadafriendinhighschoolwhotoldsomeone"you'reonlyfatifyou'renottryingtodosomethingaboutit."SoI'mnotfatanymorebutIwillcontinuetolose.permalink

    [] cherrybomb921 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Beinganassholedoesn'tcureobesity.Ifitdidwewouldn'thavesuchaproblemwithitinMurica.permalink

    [] dorogov undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Hatersarehaters,ifyouwerewhatusedtobeaverage30yearsagoyou'dhear"youneedaburger""jokes"waytoooften.permalink

    [] ShadowTheEdgehog undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Achubbypersonwhoworksoutalotismuchhealthierthanaskinnypersonwhositsontheirassallday.permalink

    [] fischyman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Youwererefreshedtoseenoneofit...soooyoustartedathreadaboutit?permalink

    [] FutureStrongman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Whatissadisjustlike/r/blackpeopletwitteraremostlywhitepeopleactingblack,thepeopleoverat/r/fatpeoplefataremostlikelyoverweightpeoplejustjoiningthemobtotryandeithermakefunofthemselvesorlivesomealternatelifebecausetheyhatetheirs.

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    [] alien01 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    andiftheydon'twanttogetfitorthin,thendon'trudelytalktothemasiftheyhaveto.Dpermalink

    [] KomradeKoala undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Theyneverwantedtohelpfatpeople.They'reahateful,pettybunchofcuntswithalotoffreetime.It'sgoodtoseethepeoplewhoactuallycareaboutfitnessarestillbehavinglikefuckingadults.permalink

    [] Steve_Taylor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Imean,can'twealljustagreethatbeingfatisn'ttheproblem?Stayingfatis.Peoplewhojustifybeingconstantlyoverweightarefuelingthisproblem,leadingtotheacceptanceoffatpermanenceinpeople,ratherthanusingitasastartingmotivationtobetteryourselfandbecomehealthier.Ifyou'rehealthyandvisuallyabit'bigger'thanothersthensure,letpeopleknowthatthey'rebeinganasshole,butdon'tjustifybeingoverweightbecause"weighthasnothingtodowithhealth"becausethat'sthelargestpileofbollucksIcouldeverthinktomakeup.permalink

    [] SortaPro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    It'snotaboutmakingfunoffatpeople,it'sabouthowPaotookdownthesubredditFatPeopleHate.Sopeoplearedoingtheexactoppositebecauseshetookawaythesitesfreedomofspeech.permalink

    [] KeeperDe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Iactuallydontthinkpeopleinthosesubsreallyhatefatpeople.Theyjusthatetheideaoffatpeoplesayingthattheylovethemselvesandthewaytheylook,andthatitsnotasunhealthyaseveryonethinksandblabla.Ireallycanunderstandthatstandpoint,ifyouarefatyoushouldworkonitandstartgettingfit,itreallyisabigconcernforyourhealthwhenyouaremorbidlyobese,soyoushoulddowhateveritsinyourpowertochangethat.Startingafatacceptancemovementwonthelpthat...Imyselfcanacceptfatpeople,thatsnobigdeal,butwhatIcannotacceptisthosepeopletryingtomakeotherfatpeopleloseinterestinworkingout.Ithinkthatsjustdisgustingandfatacceptanceistheleastthingwhathelpshere.permalink

    [] dubitandum undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Well,sincethethreadisalreadyat500+commentsandnoonewilleverseemine,I'llthrowthisoutthere:IfyouliveinPhillyandyou'retryingtostartgoingtothegymbutareanxiousorunsureaboutwhattodoandafraideveryonewillbejudgingyou(eventhoughtheywon't),youcancomefollowmearoundforafewworkouts.Oryoucanjustsayhiandthenfindmeifyoueverhavequestionsorneedaspot.I'mnotatrainerorsuperjackedoranything,justanaveragedudewhogoestothegymconsistentlyandhasbeenacoupleyears.Icantellyouhowallthemachinesworkandcan(probably)pointoutbadformonmostlifts,althoughI'mbynomeansanexpert.Idoabodybuildingstyleupper/lowersplit.SometimesI'lldo20minutesofHIITonabike.Oh,andIworkoutattheBellevueincentercity.I'mthereMonThursnightsinthesummer,notinPhillyfortheweekendsuntilitgetscoldagain.permalink

    [] comicbookguys undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Fuckoff,karmagrabbingwhorebag.

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    [] Edewede undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Doesn'tseeapostaboutFPHcontroversyandishappy,thenmakesapostaboutFPHcontroversy...permalink

    [] spoetnick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Iftheyarefat,Iloserespectforthem.Thembeinginthegymdoesn'thelpthat.Onlyiftheyareworkinghardandshowprogressdoesitchange.Gettingfatandbuyingagymmembershipdoesn'treallymakeapersonadmirable.permalink

    [] guyonthissite undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Mockingandshamingsmokersworkedreallywellatreducingsmoking.Idon'tseewhythesamethingcouldn'tbeappliedtofatpeople.Inthevastmajorityofcasestheyarefatfromthechoicestheymake,notfromsomehormonaldysfunctionorsomesuchthing.permalink

    [] NoTifuToday undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    NobodyhatesyouforDOINGSOMETHINGaboutobesity.Theonesgettinghatearetheonesproudoftheirmorbidobesity.permalink

    [] lift_mdfk_lift undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    WhenIseeafatpeopleinthegymthefirstthoughtthatcomestomindishopingtheywillbeconsistentandwillaccomplishtheirgoals.Ithink,damn,Ihope6monthsorayearfromnowyouwillstillbegoingtothegym.permalink

    [] dingledangles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    I'munfamiliarwithr/fatpeoplehate,butfromthenameofthesub,Iamassumingitwasaplacewhereredditorscouldmakefunoffatpeopleandenjoyalaughattheirexpense.Whileitishardlyanagreeablewaytotreatpeople,censorshipisnotsomethingthatshouldevermakeit'swayontowhatislargelyconsideredabastionofinternetfreedom.Onthetopicoffatshamingasamotivationaltool,itislargelyineffective(althoughclearlyithasworkedforsome).WhatIcannotstandarepeoplelikeTessHolidaywhotryandsuggestthatweightisanonissueandthatit'sperfectlyOKtosettlewhenyouaremorbidlyobese(andImeanMORBIDLY).Youcanarguethatcurvywomencanstillbehealthy,butonelookatTessandyouknowsomethingiswrong.permalink

    [] Anthonyandricciola undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Getyourmacronutrients,hitthegym,losetheweight.Beingfatisjustasdumbassmoking,you'rechoosingtodosomethingthat'sharmingyourbodyandyouknowtheconsequences.permalink

    [] satsujin_akujo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    I'mwithyou.Idon'tgenerallyjudgeoverweightpeopleoutsideofthegymiftheyareinthegymatleasttheyaredoinggoodworksinthehouseofBrodin.permalink

    [] chismaquina undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

  • Ithinkit'sonlyfairthatIgettoseeyourpenisnowthatyouarealsoabletofindit.permalink

    [] mattalingur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    "Tothefatassjoggingtheseasideyesterdayafternoon.You,whocanhardlyliftyourlegswhenyoudragyourselfthroughthepavement.You,whodragyourselftheoppositedirectionofalltheotherjoggers.You,thatstopsevery10minutestogetadrinkofwater,andwouldprobablystopmoreoftenifthereweremorebenchesalongthepavement.You,wholookdownyourshoesinshameeverytimesomeonepassesyou.You,whoarebathedinsweatafterittookyoutwentyminutestojogakilometerYouneedtoknowonething:Youareawesome!Foreverysmallstepyoutake,youdragabodyweightthat'sdoubletomine,aweighthangingonyourskeletonandwantingtogetoff.Foreverykilometeryourun,you'repayingoffadebt.adebtformidnightsnacking,dessertorbeer.Thisisn'tyourfirstdayoutrunninganditwon'tbeyourlast.You'vebegunajourneythatwilllastalifetime.Youdon'trunwithmusicinyourears,probablysothere'snodistraction,soyoucanmentallypepyourself.Ifyouwouldn'tlookdownatyourshoeseverytimewemeet,thenyou'dseethatI'mnotjudgingyou.IbelieveinyouandIadmireyou,Youcandothis!"Fatshamingisnotcoolandbreaksdowntheindividual,let'sgivethemapeptalk,cheerthemon.Thefitness"community"shouldbeaboutbetteringyourself,notbelittlingtheonetryingtobecomebetter.ThatiswhatIloveaboutthefitnesscommunity,I'veseenmorbidlyobeseguysgettrainedbynationallyknownfitnesscompetitors,andthere'snodisdain,noarrogance,simplyamutualinterestinlookingbetterthanyesterday.permalink

    [] SyrupyCanuck undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    I'mprettydisgustedbythepeopleoffph.I'mprettyfit,alwayshavebeen.Iwouldneverthinknegativelyaboutsomeonetryingtobetterthemselvesinthegym.Ihavenoissueswithpeoplewhodecidenottostayinshape,it'stheirdecision.Irememberlookingatfphforatotalof5minutesandwantedtopuncheveryonethere.Ilikethissubforthemostpartsinceeveryone'sonthesamepageofgettingintothehealthylifestyle,whichIlove.Gladtoseeothersseethepositivesideofthingshereaswell.permalink

    [] RVCFever undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Inprocessoflosingweight,wasn'treallyhugelyfatoranythingjustputonalittlebit.OneofmymatespulledmeasideandaskedifIwantedtogorunningwithhimbecauseI'dputalittleon.Ihadn'treallyrealisedandhonestlywithouthimsayingthatI'dneverhaveknown.IMO/r/fatpeoplehatewasverytoxicbutitworksforsomepeople.Absolutelynowayitshouldhavebeenbanned.permalink

    [] Troglokhan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Sureeducationhelpsbutwhodoesn'tknowthatbeingfatisbadforyourhealth?permalink

    [] Kimchidiary undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thatsubwasjustdisgusting.Takingphotosofpeopleandpostingthemonthewebtohurlabuseatshouldbepunishable.permalink

    [] FisherKing22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

  • JusttoreiterateOPspointaboutfatpeopleinthegym,Ialwaysfeelbadforthem,notbecausethey'refat,butbecausesomanyofthemhavebodylanguagethatlookslikethey'reuncomfortableinthegym.ButI,alongwithmostotherregulargymgoers,aregenuinelyrootingforthem.Ifeelbadbecausesooften,thesepeoplecarrythemselveslikeoutcastswhentherealityisthatthegymisexactlywheretheyshouldbe.Goingforward,I'llmakemoreofanefforttoencourageandmakelargerpeoplefeelwelcomeatthegym.Ireallydon'twanttocomeoffaspatronizing,butIknowhowmuchofadifferencetherightthingsaidattherighttimecanmake.Ifanybodyhasanysuggestions,pleaseletmeknow.permalink

    [] YomamacrazyITB undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Tobebrutallyhonest,althoughtherearesomeratherannoyingextremistson/r/fatpeoplehate,ithinktheyhaveabetterideaandperspectiveonfatpeoplethantheidiotswhosay"beingfatishealthierthanbeingskinny".Acceptingyourselfisgood,butlyingtoyourself?Sayingyouarehealthywhenyoumostcertainlyarenot?Thatsnothowyousolveaproblem,itshowyoucreateabiggerone.BacklastOctober,iwasbrowsingredditandiwasalsonearly300fuckinglbs.Iranintothe/r/fatpeoplehatesubredditand,longstoryshort,iquicklydecidedthatitwastimetochangeandstoplyingtomyself.Ivebeenworkingouteversinceandihavedroppedto230lbs.!Iwouldhaveneverdonethisifineverfoundpeoplewillingtotellmethecoldhardtruth.TLDR:/r/fatpeoplehatehasactuallyhelpedmechangemylifeforthebetter(aswellasthissub)andimreallysadtoseeitgo.permalink

    [] burrito_batman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    WhatIdon'tgetisthatbeforeeveryonebashedfphandbanningitsusersfromalotofsub's.Reddithatedfphandnowthatitsfinallygone,everyoneonredditseemstobeprofphandbashingfatpeople.Idon'tgetitatall...permalink

    [] tonygd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thanks.Itwasprettygrossandsadtosee/r/allmuchbetteronceIswitchedtomyfront.Everyonebenice.Lifecanbehard.Idon'tknowanyhealthyhappysexyawesomepeoplewhohatefatpeople.There'snothinggoodtocomeofit.Carryon.permalink

    [] s3rp3nt6666 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ifyou'refatagym,Igiveyounothingbutrespectandalltheencouragementintheworld.Anyonewhoistryingtoloseweightshouldn'tbeputdownforit.Everyonehastostartsomewhere.permalink

    [] p0llen86 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    thepurefactthatyouareonthissubredditisshowingthatyouwanttochangesomething.whyshouldihateonsomebodythatisactivelytryingtoimprove?Andbesidesthat,thisisoneofthenicestandmostcivilsubsonwholereddit.permalink

    [] SixtySecondstoEarth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    IreadFPH.IalsosmileandgivethumbsupsandencouragementtoanyfatpeopleIseeatthegymortryingtopowerwalkorjogorotherwiseactivelytryingtoimprovethemselves.ButIalsogetincrediblyfrustratedwiththeHealthyAtEverySizemovement,andthefatlazyslobsIhavetointeractwithregularlywhothinkthatIshouldchangetoaccommodatethem,insteadofthemmakinganyefforttochange

  • themselves.ReadingFPHwasanicereleasevalveforthatfrustration.permalink

    [] ANUS_CONE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thanksfortheprops,butit'snotlikewearetheoppositionoffatpeoplein/r/fitness.Thisisn't/r/feminismvs/r/mensrightsoranything.permalink

    [] wakawaka86 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    HailovetheFPHremnantscomingin,downvotingandtalkingouttheirasstodefendthatsubpermalink

    [] AlphaWookie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Everysanepersonknowsthathatingpeopledoesn'thelpthem,encouragementandeducationdoes.

    Nopethatiswhythenationisfatterthanever.permalink

    [] idkwhatImdoing69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thestuffgoingoninr/allisaboutredditthrowingfreespeechoutthewindowandfurtherdescendingintowhatadvertiserswantreddittobe.FPHwasverystrictwiththeirpolicieswhenitcametonotpostingpersonalinfoandmessingwithothersubs.Ifsomeofthemstillbrokethoserulesthenyoubanthosepeoplenotthesub.Reddit'sreasoningforbanningitareajokeconsideringtheydidn'ttouchsubswhicharemuchmuchworse.That'sokay.Thiswillprobablybethestartoftheendforredditasweknowitnowthatanythingcanbebannedbecausesomeonegotoffended.Freespeech>yourfuckingfeelings.permalink

    [] cogentat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    I'mfatandwassubscribedtothatsubredditformotivation,andevenhadsomelaughs.Isupportfreespeechandpeople'srighttomakefunofmeoranyoneelse.Redditshouldn'tbeahumorlessplaceandthatiswhatEllenPaoistryingtodo.Iresentthatkindofcensorship.So,yeah,Iappreciatethatyouenjoythesafespace,butnotatthepriceofgaggingothers.permalink

    [] LadyGrooveUK undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thisisace:)permalink

    [] TheTruthizoutThere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Toleranceencouragesfatpeopletobecomfortablewithaconditionthatisunhealthyforthem&aburdenonsociety.Don'tspitonortorturethem,mostdefinitelypushthemtomakepositivechanges.Iftheycan'thandlepeoplemakingcommentsabouttheirweight,itisbecausethey'reavoidingreality&desiretositinthefatsuitthey'veconstructedaroundtheirskeleton.permalink

    [] crochetquilt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    WhenIseeafatpersoninthegymmythoughtsareeitherohgodwhydidIhavetodothisinfrontofamirror,orI'mnotlookingatthematallI'mlookingthroughthembecauseI'minpainandwanttodie.

  • Eitherway,it'sallgood.permalink

    [] accidentaladult undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Kudos!It'ssodisturbingtoseeallthatgarbageon/r/all.Idon'tknowanyhappy,healthyandfitfolkswhoarenastylikethat.Generallyspeakinghappy,healthyandfitpeoplewanttohelpandsupport,notputdown.WhenIseeabiggergirlatthegym(I'malsoagirl..nocreepyhere),thefirstthingIdoisgiveathumbsupandasmile...IgenuinelyLOVEseeingfolksdoingwhattheyneedtodotobecomehealthyindividuals.Trulydoeswarmmyheart.permalink

    [] lalwaysforgetmyUname undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Asaguywhohasalwayshadnormalweightbutalsoneverexercised,IfoundstartingoutinthegymoneofthehardestthingsIhaveeverdone.IcanonlyimagineitistougherforoverweightpeopleandIalwaysthinkfairfuckingplaymate,goodjob(althoughIneversayit).permalink

    [] kazneus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    OP,Idefinitelyagreewithyou.Ilostalotofweightmyself.AlltheteasingandbullyingIgotwhenIwasyoungerwasprettydevastating.Ijustwantedtobeleftaloneandlooseweightonmyown.SothewayIunderstanditisthatthewholefatpeoplehatethingstartedasabacklashagainstthebullshitfatpositivemovement.And..wellthat'sactuallysomethingIcangetbehind.Thatshitisfullyretarded.SoI'mprettyonboardwithtargetingpeoplewhoputthemselvesinthepublicasfatpositiveadvocates.Wheretheylostmeiswhentheystartedpostingfuckingpicturesofjustpeople.Justfuckingpeople.Forallyouknowthesepeoplecouldbeactivelyintheprocessofloosingweight.Occasionallythereisalegitimatemedicalconditionatplay(likewhenpeoplethinkverybadlymphodemaisfat.)Sometimestheypostkids.Justfuckingkids.That'stheworst.Ifyouwanttoshamepeoplewhoareopenly,andmoreimportantly,publiclyspreadingmisinformationaboutthehealthrisksofbeingoverweight(especiallywhilebeingoverweightthemselves)that'sonething.Ifyouwanttodragrandompeoplethroughthemudpeoplewhoarejusttryingtolivetheirlivesasprivatelyaspossiblethesedaysthat'ssomethingalltogetherdifferent.permalink

    [] FarplaneDragon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    AllIknowisthankgodforRESfilters.Makesitpossibletoactuallybrowsereddittoday.permalink

    [] Lordrummxx1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Fatpeopleareaburdenonsociety,themselves,andthenextgenerationthattheyspawn.Theyareawful,useless,andadrainontaxdollars.Infact,alltheyknowhowtodoisbitchandblameothersratherthantakeresponsibilityfortheirownshittylifechoices.I'msorrybutfuckthem.Theydeservetobehated.permalink

    [] lulzingtonthe4th undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    whycan'tweallagreeobesityisamentalillness,justlikebeinganympho,justlikebeingadrugaddict,justlikebeingOCD,andjustlikebeinganorexicpermalink

  • [] lizabFA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Even/r/fatlogicand/r/fatpeoplestoriescantstandthefolksfrom/r/fatpeoplehateHellafterThehatesubressitwasbanned,fatlogicturnedonprivacybecausetheydidn'twantallthefolksfromfatpeoplehatetofloodtheirsub(orsothemodssaid).permalink

    [] Slack_Irritant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ronyoudon'tspeakforanyonebutyourself.Rememberthat.Youdon'tdecidewhatmotivatespeopleandwhatdoesn't.Asthetopcommentsaid,thisisafitnessboardthattalksaboutfitnessobjectively.Keepyourdramacrapoutofhere,evenifyouaretryingtostarta'letspatourselvesontheback'circlejerk.permalink

    [] webhero77 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Havingneverhadanyweightissuespreviously,IcanconfirmthethoughtsIhadtowardthebiggerpeopleinthegym.Iwasproudofthemandsomewhatinspired,notinacondescendingway.Simplyinaweofapersonwhodoessomethingtoreachagoal.Nowstrugglingwithmyownweight,Icanunderstandjusthowharditcanbesometimestojustbemotivated.permalink

    [] drucifer0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ithelpsthatadecentnumberofpeopleonr/fitnessareworkingouttogainweight.Hereweknowthatbeingunderweightisalsoashittyunattractivestateofbeing.permalink

    [] abienz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    There'salotofmisunderstandingwithregardstothefatpeoplehategoingon.Here'swhathappened:

    /r/fatpeoplehatepostedpersonalinformationinitssidebartopromoteattackingindividualsredditmodsclosedthesubbecausethisisagainsttheTermsandConditionsThemobdecidedthiswasbecauseofEllenPao(RedditCEO)andwasacensorshiponfreedomofspeechThemobcreatedothersubredditstopromotehateoffatpeopleandEllenPaomissingthereasonwhy/r/fatpeoplehatewasshutdowninthefirstplace.

    Thisisthecruxofit.it'saloadofmobmentalitythatdoesn'tunderstandwhattheproblemreallywasabout,whichwasassimpleasasubredditnotfollowingthesitestermsandconditions.permalink

    [] twawaytrust undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    fatpeoplehategotmeoffthecouch.fatpeoplestoriesgotmetolose40lbs.Theshamingandallthatdoesn'tworkforEVERYONE,butitdoesworkforsomepeople,andit'sanimportantbit.permalink

    [] gabe614 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    IfanythingwhenIseea"fat"personatthegymitalwaysmotivatesmeevenmore.permalink

    [] Vault109girl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    IsubmittedapictureofmyselftoseeiftheythoughtIwasskinnyenoughandtheybannedmeforhaving"chubbythighs":(

  • permalink

    [] nMaib1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    everysanepersonisnotfat,Iwouldn'ttellapersons/he'sfatoutoftheblue,butIwouldthinkitandtheywouldknowit,theyseeiteveryday,allI'msayingis,ifinsultingisdoingsomethingpositivethenitispositive,Iknowit'srude,buttheresultsarelesspeopledyingandsomepeoplecrying.permalink

    [] HerrXRDS 2points

    Somepeoplearesimplynotrightintheirhead.Ihavethis"friend",goestothegymprettyoftenbutheneverpusheshimself,chubbyoverweight,allheevertalksaboutishowfatareotherpeople,whomostofthem,ironically,arelessfatthanhim.Andgodforbidforatrulyoverweightpersontoshowupinthegym,thecommentsIhearfromhimareenraging.Heevenwenttothisgirlwhohad1213%bodyfatandtoldhershegotfatandshelooksugly.Fuckthatguy.permalink

    [] Nuttin_Up undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Yea...tellmeaboutfatacceptanceasyou'resquishingmeoutofmyseatontheplane.permalink

    [] N_Raist 0points

    IthinkIshouldclearsomethingsupregardingthesub:Firstly,therewasnobrigading.Infact,itwasfrownuponandnottolerated.Evenmentioninganothersubwasnotallowed.Nodoxxingeither,thatimgurstaffpicturewasavailablefromthestart.Itwas,doesn'tmatterifyoulikedornot,averystrictsubregardingreddit'srules.(Thingstonote:afatuserthreatenedmultiplemembersofthesubimgutallowsexecutionsimages,butbansfphpictures)Now,aboutthetopicsthesubwasbasedaround.Alotofpeoplegetcarriedawaybythe'hate'inthename,relatingittohatespeechorwhatever.Therealityisthatitwassomekindofmixoffatlogic,justneckbeardthingsandothers:laughingatfatlogic,sharingdelusionalattitudesorcomplainingaboutdisgustingbehavior(takingmultipleseats,haes,etc.).Inbroaderterms,therearecertaintraitsalotoffatpeopleshare,suchaslaziness,andIhavenoproblemsseeinghowsomeonecandislikepeoplebasedontheirattitude.Lastofall,Ineversawfatshamingpeopleactivelytryingtochange.Notasingle'lookatthisfattieonthetreadmill',becausetheyweretryingtoimprovetheirlifeconditions.Supporttothoseactuallyintendingtogethealthywasindeedencouraged.permalink

    [] hiimnotnewhere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Whatpissesmeoffisthattheonlyproblemswe'reallowedtoconfrontpeopleonwithgenuinecompassionandunderstandingarealcoholismanddrugaddiction.Forotherproblemswe'reallowed,andoftenexpected,tochastisepeoplepublicly.Gotcaughtcheatingonyourwifetosatisfyasexaddictionorkink?You'reaselfishpervertedasshole.Yousmokecigarettes?You'reaselfish,selfdestructiveasshole.You'refat.....wellthere'snothingwrongwiththat,apparently.Abuddyofmineisgoingtodiebecausehe's200poundsoverweight,heworksahighstressdeskjob,andhejustturned40.Theonlythingthatcouldpotentiallysnaphimoutofhisselfpityandacceptancerutwouldbeanoldfashionedinterventionwithfriendsandfamily,butdoingthatforsomeone'sweightproblemisunheardof,andlikelyunaccepted.It'sfuckingastoundingtomethatbroachingthetopicofsomeoneeatingthemselvestodeathissomehowtaboo.WhenIwasinthemilitaryIhadgottenupto270pounds.I'm6'4",soIwasn'tacompleterolypoly,butIwasbeing

  • threatenedwithdischargeifIdidn'tdroptheweight,andtheywereNOTkindandunderstandingaboutit.Iwasshitoneverysingledaybymysuperiors.Atworst,myphysicalappearanceintheciviliansectorwouldhavebeenconsidered'husky',butinthemilitaryIwasliterallycalledabagofshit.Andafatbody.Anddisgusting.Andafterawhile,Istartedtofeeldisgustedwithmyself.Andyouknowwhat?Itfuckingworked.Ilost45poundsintwomonths,anditwasthesimplestprogramyoucanimagine.Icutmyintaketoastrict1500caloriesaday,consistingmainlyofchicken/tuna/eggs,fruits/veggies,yogurt,andproteinshakes.Ialsodidonehourofhighintensityellipticalinthemorning,andanotherhourintheevening,andIdidpushupstomaintainmystrengthwithoutgainingbulk.AfteronlytwomonthsIwasleanandmean,anditwassuchasimpleprogramtostickwith.I'mnotsurewhereI'mgoingwiththisatthispoint,butyeah,beingfatreallyisdisgustingandunnecessary,andit'sEASILYFUCKINGFIXABLE,butit'sstillconsidereduncouthtotellpeoplethisin2015,andthat'sagenuinetragedy.permalink

    [] Purphect 1point

    Youmadeagreatpointalotofpeopleshouldknow.Everyonewhogoestothegymstartedsomewhere.Whetheryou'refatorscrawny.Youhavetostartfrombeginningandworkyourwaytowhereyouwanttobe.Itcanbehard,buttrynottogettoonervousaboutwhateveryoneelseisthinking.(They'reprobablyprettyzonedinontheirownworkoutanyways)permalink

    [] ilyuhman 1point

    I'vebeenreallytryingtoloseweightfor3years.Ihadabout20kgextra,managedtocut5or7ofitatbest.Afterthat,Istoppedtryingandjustlostitin3month.NowI'mwithinnormalbmiandkeeplosing0,51kiloperweekonaverage,mygoalisbmiof22andgettingfit.WhenIstartedit,/r/fitnesshelpedmealot.Sodid/r/keto.Butmytruesourcesofcontinuingmotivationwerefphandfatlogic.Fphhadzerointentmotivatingpeople,butitdiditfantasticallyformanyotherslikeme.ItisthankstofphnowIknow,thatIwillneverbeoverweightagain,Ijustcan'tletithappen.Ioftenseepeoplesayingthatfphisjustasmallbunchofhatefuljerks,butafterithit150ksubsitbecameprettyclearit'snotjustacommunity,it'speopleyouseeeveryday.Someofthemareyourcoworkers,relatives,maybeevenfriends.Fphisyourgrumpyuncle,thattellsyoutheuglytruth,butyouknowthathelovesyousomewheredeepinside.Iguessmypointisthatweallarequitedifferent.Someneedcarrot,someneedstick.Thereprobablywasacompromiseforthoseoffendedbutalas.ItchangedmylifeinagreatwayandIwillalwaysbethankfulforthat.permalink

    [] mynameisdana 1point

    Yeahithankyoumatebutididn'thavethatexperienceioncewhilejoggingfor30secondsandwalkingforaminuteandsohadagroupofpeopledrivepastmeafewscreaming'fuckyoustopeatingfastfood'orfatfuckerdon'tevenbother'andspittingandworse.Peoplecanbesocruelevenwhentryingtolosebabyweightoranyweight.Ihavejustcamehereandhadsomehorriblepeoplemessagemethingslike'juststopliving'and'noonecaresaboutyou'ithoughtthiswassave.Imnotontofacebookandallthatijustwantedalittle.bitofsupport.80%ofredditaregreatbutitreallyhurtswhenastrangermessagesyoutodiecauseyouneedadviceonhowtojugglework,kidsandyourweight.Myproblemismainlyidonteatcauseimbusythenihavetoastatmidnight.Haven'thadfastfood(bartheoddsubway)inyearscantaffordit.Idontknowwhypeoplemessagemethismaybeishouldjustbealurkerandnotamember:ljustlovecommentingonsomeofthefantasticthingsisee.permalink

    [] Philanthropiss 1point[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

  • Everysanepersonalsoknowsthatsilencingsomeonewhohaspassionisonlygoingtomakethemlouder.Fatpeoplehatehadapassionforhatingfatpeople.Youcannotsilencethat.permalink

    [] beardface84 1point

    OP,canIaskhowlongittooktogetthoseresults?I'minasimilarshapetohowyouwere,andI'vejuststartedatthegym.Anytips(barringtheobviouseatclean,excerciseetc)?permalink

    [] miserablestoic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    It'sallabunchofwank!I'mashitlordandIfrequentedfphalot.NowIgotothegym6timesaweek,andIdon'tjudgeanyoneatthegym.It'soutsideofthegymthatmyhatredstarts,butI'mnotgonnagetintothathere.Whatreallyisjustshitisthatredditisbanningoursubreddits,whathappenedtofreedomofspeech?Therearesomerightfuckinghorrendoussubsonreddit,likedeadchildrenpicsorwhatever,theygettostay,yetifyoumakefunofafatperson,yougetbanned.That'snotwhatIthoughtredditwasabout,andI'mseriouslyconsideringleaving,fphwastheonlysubIvisited.permalink

    [] TooktheBluePill 4points

    Indeed.Iloveseeingfatpeopleinthegym.Thebestiswhenyoukeepseeingthesamefatpersonoverandoveragainandcanwatchthemtransform.Thereisaguyinmygymwhowentfromprettyobese,torelativelystackedinI'dguessayearorso.Itwasawesometowatch.permalink

    [] lnclincoln undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Itsnotpeoplejusthatingonfatpeople.Itsobesepeoplewhoaretryingtopushthattheirlifestyleishealthy.Itslikeanalcoholictryingtosayheisfinethewayheis.Theyarebothunhealthylifestylesandshouldnotbeviewedasnormal.Ifsomeoneistryingtochangetheirlifeforthebetterandishatedonthenthatisdisgusting.Butitiscorrecttocalloutpeoplewhentryingtopushtheirunhealthylifestyleasifitisnormaltobe300+poundsordrinkingabottleeverything.It'snot"beautiful,"itsdownrightgoingtokillthatperson.permalink

    [] DocBalls 1point

    Wow,I'mfatandIneverrealizedpeoplehateme,Iwasjustlivingmylifehappy.Afterreadingallthishate,I'vedecidedtoonlygooutsidewhenrequired,otherwiseIwillmostlybecomeaninsideperson.permalink

    [] easyfeel 0points

    Forgetthoselosersin/r/fitpeoplehatepermalink

    [] alientic 1point

    Thankyouforsayingthat.I'vebeenworkingonlosingweightformanyyears,butIwasneverabletoactuallygetthewillpowertodoituntilIwasoutofahatefulenvironmentandgotintoasupportingone(andnowI'velostabout60lbs).Hatingdoeshelpsomepeople,butforalotofpeople,italsomakesitworse,andtheproblemisyoudon'tknowwhoisgoingtobeaffectedwhatway.Idon'tcomeonthissubthatoften,butit'sgoodtoseeI'mstillwelcomehere,evenifIstillhaveweightIneedtolose:)permalink

  • [] wagstagsthird 1points

    I'mgoingtoplaydevil'sadvocatehere.I'mprettysureanypersononFPHwouldlovetoseefatpeopleinthegym.Itwouldbehypocriticaltoshameobesepeopleandthenshamethemforattemptingtobetterthemselves.Everycommentoneverypostsmockstheirapparentlackofeffortatlosingweight,sowhywouldtheyhateontheminthegymfortryingtofixtheproblem?I'mfairlycertainwehaveagoodnumberofshitlordsonthissub,butwhydownthemin/r/fitness?Thisistheendgame,wehavetobesupportiveherebecausethisiswheretheywouldcometostart.FPHmayhaveonlybroughtafewpeoplehere,butwearetheoneswhoencouragethemtokeepgoingandperseverethroughthecriticism.permalink

    [] VeryMagical 9points

    I'vemadepoorchoicesinmylifeandithasleadtomebeingoverweight.ButIacknowledgethatandIamtryingtoreversethose.Constantlyseeingpeoplesayingsomeonelikemeis"disgusting"orwhateverelsetheysayisnotgoingtomakemechange.Itmakesmesadandthat'salltheywanted.Tobully.But"fat"doesnotdefinewhoIam.Iwillbehealthyagainonedayanditwillbethankstothepeoplewhoofferedsupport,notcriticism.permalink

    [] KipzOfTheMud undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Same.Alotoftheseassholestrytojustifyitwith"we'rejustmotivatingthem"or"peoplelearndifferently"butweallknowtheonlyreasonwastojudgepeopleandmakethemsad.I'mgladit'sgone.permalink

    [] thatfishscale undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    reportedforbeingafaggotpermalink

    [] LikeAndSubscribeJK 4points

    notbeingpostedpostsit

    Manyousuuurearedumb:ppermalink

    [] kiproping 2points

    Idon'tthinkitsaboutfatpeoplehateperse,itsjustpeoplelashingoutatchairmanPao.permalink

    [] 3ntl3r 16points

    historyindicatesthatshaming&dehumanizingpeopleleadstohorridresults.ifhavingaforumwherespoutingyournarrowmindedvenomissodamnimportantbuild&hostyourowndamnforum.wishingyouallhealth,peace&wellnesspermalink

    [] myotherusernamebroke 2points

    Agreedespeciallywhenthosepeoplearerunningharder,sweatingmore,andjustputtinginmoreworkthanIdoorhavebeen.Itismotivationaltoseelargerpeopledecidingtomakeachange.Determinationtomakeachangeisalwaysinspiring,especiallywhenyoucanseeitandtheresults.permalink

    [] Moldyman 3points

  • It'snotabouthatingfatpeople.It'saboutfreespeech.Simpleasthat.permalink

    [] MackMizzo 1point[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ithoughtthemainpointofcontentionwasthecensorshipissue?"Wheredoesitend"etc.permalink

    [] Trickster174 5points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Goodlord,alotofpeoplehereseemtobeconfusing"hate"with"toughbutdirectlove/care."Itwasn'thatewhenmydadpulledmeaside4yearsagoandsaid"Son,you'vereallyputonalotofweight,andwiththehealthissuesinourfamilyitwouldreallybebeneficialifyouslimmeddown.Youwouldfeelandlookmuchbetter,too."Andhewasright.Norwasithatewhenmybestfriend,aroundthesametimetoldme"Heydude,I'mjustgoingtobebluntwithyou:Iamgettingworriedaboutyourhealth.You'veputonalotofweightinashorttime."Butthatwasn'thate,thatwasmydadandmyfriendbeingdirectandupfrontwithme.Hateisliterallyinthenameof"FatPeopleHate."Peopleinthatplacedon'tpointoutoverweight/obesepeoplefromaplaceofloveandcaring,theypointitoutfromaplaceofpettinessandanger.Internetstrangerspointingitoutsomeone'ssizemayshameafewofthemtothepointofslimmingdown,butIdon'tthinkthemethodisworththeresults.We,asasociety,needabetterwayoftellingpeopletotakemorecareofthemselvesthatisn'tcoddlingbutdoesn'tinvolvehatredandbulling.Believeitornotthereisamoredirectway,asmydadandfriendprovedtome4yearsago.And,70poundslater,itworked.permalink

    [] DonPoppito666 3points

    ...Iwasrefreshedtocomehereandseenoneofit.

    Soyoumadeapostaboutit?permalink

    [] TerdSandwich undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Hamplanetplsgopermalink

    [] JoeyWah 2points

    IguaranteeyouthatalmostnoFPHposterhasseentheinsideofagym.permalink

    [] SpamFilterHatesMe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Really?Howdoyouguaranteethis?Orjusttalkingoutofyourass?permalink

    [] xi_mezmerize_ix undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    r/fatpeopleshamewouldbeagreatalternativepermalink

    [] theprancingpuppy 1point

    Ithinkit'sgoodtobehonest,butofcourseit'slowtoridiculepeopleortohateagroupofpeople.However,IthinkitgoesbothwaysandIdon'tthinkweshouldmakeassumptionsthat"peoplewhogoonr/fatpeoplehatehavelowselfesteem"orwhatever.Peoplearejustdicks.Inalotofplaces,it'sacceptabletomakerudejokesaboutfatpeople.Nowadays,insome

  • placesit'sokaytohateonnormalorsmallersizedpeople.Sothebasicgististhatpeoplewhoarecuntstowardsotherpeopleshouldbeignoredortoldtoleaveitalone.Theydon'twanttohelpyou,theywanttohurtyou.Peoplewhoarehonestwithyouandtrytohelp,wellsometimesthathelpisuncalledforbutotherwise,they'regood.Weshouldn'tbuildupawallaroundfatpeoplesotheywillnotfeelthreatenedeither(la"don'tcallmeoverweight,that'sakintobeingaracist"),weshouldjusttreateachothernicelywhichIalsoreallylikeaboutthefitnesscommunities.Mostpeoplewillonlyencourageyouinyourquesttobecomehealthy,nomatterwhoyouare,andtheoneswhohategettoldtostopit.permalink

    [] trankwiZ 8points

    Fatpeoplehateisnotdirectedtofatpeopletryingtogetfit,itsdirectedtothefatpeoplewhoarelazyandeatalldayandthinkitsfinetodoso.permalink

    [] nobody2000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Bullshit.Ifafatpersonwearinggymclotheswaspostedonthere,andsomeonesaid"Itlookslikethey'retryingtoloseweight"theywouldbemetwithabanandamessage:"NoSympathy."Therewasnonobleintention.Itwasalljusthating.There'sahugeobesityepidemiccostingtheUShealthcareindustry~$200Billiondollars.Noonelikedtodiscussitbecauseitwasn'tsexyenoughtoearnKarma.WhattheyDIDliketorepostwastheobesityversionofthewelfarequeenfalacythatdumbbirdintheUKwhodidn'twanttogetbariatricsurgerybecauseshewantedtokeepherwelfarebenefits.Superrarecase,butitwarrantedaplethoraofvotes.permalink

    [] Kivla 7points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    No,youarewrong.FPHwouldharassandbullyfatpeoplenomatterwhattheyweredoing.90%ofthedamnpicsfromthatsubwerejusttakenoffsomebody'sFacebookandgivennocontext.Whyiseveryonesayingthatthesubredditwasfightingthefatacceptancemovementnow?It'slikeredditorsaretryingtorewritehistorysothatthebanfitstheirnarrativeof"innocentlittlesubredditdestroyedbyevilsjwchairmanPAO!!1*CENSOSHIPZ***".That'snotwhathappened.Thesubredditharassedpeopleandbrigadedothersubredditsandthat'swhyitwasbanned.permalink

    [] PluckyWren 3points

    Apersonaltrainertoldmetherearetwokindsofpeopleinagym.Thoseinshapeandstayinginshapeandthosegettinginshape.permalink

    [] kerrybaumann undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    AssomeonewhowassadtoseeFPHgo,IwillsaythatIwasneverasubscribertothesub,however,Ididvisititoften.Ididnotliketheposts"Heylookatthisfatty!"andjustarandompictureofsomefatperson.ButIdidenjoytheHAESbanter.Ihavefatfriends,anddonothatefatpeopleingeneral,butIdohateHAES,andIfuckingLOATHEwhenpeopletrytogetpityforbeingfat.

    Everysanepersonknowsthathatingpeopledoesn'thelpthem,encouragementandeducationdoes.

  • Justlikeanysportsteampeoplelearndifferently.Thecoachknowswhethertoinstructacertainplayerwhatthey'redoingwrong,ortoriphimanewasshole.Foreverycommentsayingthisisthewrongwaytoteachpeople,thereisalwaysanothersayingthattheywereaformerfattyandthatthethreadinspiredthem.permalink

    [] Spacemanseeds undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    youtellingfatpeopletogotothegymtriggersthempermalink

    [] cfprimalgamer 0points

    Iwasfat,handholdingdidn'tworkme,ifpeoplehadbeenmorehonestabouttheirassessmentsonmeIwouldhavemadeachangesooner.Butpostpeopledon'twanttotakeaccountabilityoftheirlifeandratherliveinabubblewerebeingFatisokaslongastheyarehappy.permalink

    [] CaterpillarShrimp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    R/fatpeoplehate.ThesubthatRedditneeds,notthatitdeserves.permalink

    [] n0b0d1 1point[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    So...readingthisthreadandgettingafeelforwhatthiscommunityisabout,doanyofyouhaveanyadviceforpeoplewhosufferfromactualhormonaldisorders(thyroiddisordersandpolycysticovariansyndromearebothINCREDIBLYCOMMON).Iam"skinnyfat",juststartingworkingout,myself.Imovedtoanotherpartofthecountry,andwhileIammorethanawareoftheeffectsofthe"Southerndiet",Ihavemetmorethanafewpeoplewhoaskedmefortips,butcouldnotdietorexercisethemselvesthin,becauseofthesedisorders(Iblamesomeprescribedpregnancymedications,andalsogenerational,recreationaldruguse).Theydefinitelyarenotjustmakingexcuses,becauseIhaveseentheirdiets,lotsofcardio,etc.permalink

    [] kinkakinka 2points

    Withhormoneimbalancesit'sstillpossibletoloseweight,it'sjustharder.Oftheyareonthepropermedicationfortheirillnessandwanttogetthin,theonlyrealansweristoworkharderandeatless.Itsucks,butthat'sthereality!Also,itisveryeasytogoovercaloriesbyeatingthingsthat"don'tcount"likethatcookiefromtheplateyourcoworkerleftinthelunchroom,orthelateafternoonsnackyouhadandforgotabout.That'smyhugedownfall.I'mphysicallyactive5daysaweek(running,yoga,dodgeball,softball,andaweightsclass)andeatingisbyfarthebiggestthingthatkeepsmechubbierthanI'dliketobe.permalink

    [] throthisway 9points

    'I'mgladnoonestalkingaboutFPHon/r/fit!''IshouldprobablytalkaboutFPHon/r/fit'permalink

    [] thebrainypole undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    NoonefromFPHwouldhateonafattyactivelytryingtoloseweight.Onlythosethathaveamindsetof"it'sokaytobefatandencourageotherstobefatandIhavegenetics"ItfeelslikeIwantedtosaymorebutIdon'thaveanythingtoaddreallypermalink

  • [] sinndogg2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    NoonefromFPHwouldhateonafattyactivelytryingtoloseweight.

    ExceptforthefactthatthereAREcaseswherethishappened.permalink

    [] ron_manager undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    NoonefromFPHwouldhateonafattyactivelytryingtoloseweight

    Absolutely100%wrong,theywereactivelyspamming/r/progresspicswithabuse,asubentirelydedicatedtofatpeopletryingtoloseweight.permalink

    [] _weed 8points

    imaginespendingtimeinacommunitycompletelydedicatedtohatingonanythingplentyofthingsareworthyofskepticismand/orcriticismbutwhenyourcommunityormovementselfdescribesas'hate'thenyouneedtosincerelyreevaluatewhatyourgoalsareandhowyou'rehopingtoaccomplishthem.alsoyouhavenorightto'freespeech'onaaprivatecompany'sserverlmaopermalink

    [] kinkakinka 4points

    Ithinkthebiggestissueisthatmostofthemembersprobablyhaveabitofinternalizedhate.Theyhavetohateonothers,foranyreason,tomakethemselvesfeelbetter.Iusedtobereallybadforthatmyselfbutinrecentyearshavebecomeahappier,andmuchlessangryperson.permalink

    [] Aethe 60points

    Becausethefitnesssubislockedtoselfposts.AndithasbeenknownforalongtimethatthetypicalFPHuserisn'tfitatall,andprobablynotallthathealthyincomparisontothosetheyimposejudgementon.There'sbasicallynothingforthemhere.Idon'treallywanttoelaborateherebecauseitisn'tfitnessrelated,butwhatyou'reseeingonthefrontpagerightnowisn'tjustaboutoverweightorobesepeople.Therearealotofpeopleusingthissitewhobelievehatespeechisgenuinelyokayanddeservestobeprotected.Itisnot,anditdoesnot.Hatespeechisneverokay.Partofbecomingaphysicallyfitindividualinvolvesacertainamountofmentalfitness.Veryfewofusgotintofitnessandmagicallyhadthedisciplineofanathleteorlifelongbodybuilder.Maintainingahealthymindisasimportantasmaintainingahealthybody.Lookatr/allrightnow,orlikelyatanypointtoday,andaskyourselvesifthat'sthekindofbehaviorthatpromotesahealthymind.Itisn't.Notbyalongshot.permalink

    [] cherrybomb921 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Nailmeethammer.Mentalhealthisjustasimportantasphysicalhealth.AnyonethatwouldspendtimeinaplacelikeFPHhaspoormentalhealth,period.permalink

    [] AL_DENTE_OR_NOTHING undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    FPHpeopleareunhealthymentallyandmanyofthemaresmokersanddon'texercise.Hypocrisyintheformofanger.permalink

    [] N_Raist 3points

  • ThetypicalFPHuserisverified,whichmeansbeingfitor,atleast,inahealthyweight.permalink

    [] thisismy20 2points

    Censorshiponredditcanquicklybecomeaslipperyslope.Theissuewasthat/r/fatpeoplehateandthoseothersubredditswerereportedforoffensivecontentandattackingothersubreddits.Theadminsbecameawareofthisbygatheringreportsfromotherusers.Whathappenswhensomeonegetsreallyoffendedherein/r/fitnessandspamreportsthesubredditforoffensivecontentandusersattackingusers?Theissueisnotdefendinghatespeech,itsdefendingFREESPEECH.Yougottatakethebadwiththegoodandthatswhatfreespeechreallyis.Youwanttheabilitytocomplainaboutthemodsoradmins?Wellthatsyourrighttodoso,butinacensoredcommunity,youmightnothavethatrightanymore.Again,notdefending/r/fatpeoplehatebutwhenthissitestartsslidingdownthatslopeitwillquicklygofromcleaningupthecanceroussubreddits,tocleaningoutanyandalloffensivecontentinanyshapeorform.permalink

    [] Aethe 3points

    Again,notdefending/r/fatpeoplehatebutwhenthissitestartsslidingdownthatslopeitwillquicklygofromcleaningupthecanceroussubreddits,tocleaningoutanyandalloffensivecontentinanyshapeorform.

    Asitshould.Theideaofanabsolutefreespeechzoneisrubbish.Theideareceiveszerotractioninreality,andyettheoverwhelmingmajorityofpeopleonthisplanetdonotliveinapolicestate,whichmeansthingsevenoutatsomepoint.Ithinkit'shighpastthepointwherewetakethatrisk.We'vebeendoingtheoppositeforyears,andhereweare.Youcan'tgointoathreadonr/videos,r/worldnews,r/news,r/politics,orr/picsandbeconfidentyouwon'treadsomehorriblyvilecommentaboutsomething.Isthatreallythesiteyouwanttobookmark?I'mprettysickofit.permalink

    [] thisismy20 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Soyouareokwiththeideathatr/fitnesscouldbeoneofthosebannedsubredditsdowntheline?Ortheideathatifyoudisagreewithapopularopinionyouyourselfcouldbebanned?WhenisaythisImeanwhenwe'vecometothepointthatifyoutellsomeonethatbeing200lbsoverweightisnothealthyyouwouldbeoffendingthem,givingthemreasontoreportandcensoryou.Becausethat'snotthesiteIwanttobookmark.Idon'tagreewithwhattheoffenderssaybutIdamnsuresupporttheirrighttosayit.permalink

    [] Aethe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Soyouareokwiththeideathatr/fitnesscouldbeoneofthosebannedsubredditsdowntheline?

    Yeah,youacceptthegoodwiththebad,eveninscenariosofoverthyperbole.Idon'tknowwhythere'sthisillusionthatit'ssomehowokaytoactawfulonline.Theinternetisessentiallyamirroroftherealworldnow,andhasbeenforatleastfiveyears,butmorelikelyfifteen.Themostlyhomogeneoussecretclubinternetofthe90'sisgone.TensofmillionsofpeopleuseRedditalone,andbillionsofpeopleareonlineworldwide.Youhaveaspectrumofpeopleandculturesandopinionstheworldoveritisn'treallyanydifferentfrombeinginacitycenter.Exceptrealityisgroundedinlaws.Iknowit'sfuntopretendthattheinternetisstillthewildwest,butitisn't.Actionshaveconsequences.Allactions.That'swhyyou'rereadingmorearticlesaboutpeoplegettingintroublewiththelawfortheiractionsonline.AlotofpeoplewantedtheideaofReddit'sutopiaoffreespeechtosucceed,butitclearly

  • hasn'tbecausehatefulandvindictivepeoplehavetakenadvantageofabnormallylaxadministrativelawstousethissiteasasafehavenfortheircommunities.Ifyou'regoingtoharasspeople,abusepeople,andbeoverallawfultopeople,thenyou'regoingtofaceconsequences.Inyourworld,thismightbeaslipperyslopefornonthreateningsubstobebanned,butintherealworldthatdoesn'thappenbecauser/fitnessisn'tfilledwithawfulactingpeople.Itwouldtakeseriouscommunityrestructuringforthattohappen,thelikesofwhichisn'tgoingtohappenbecauser/fitnesshasalreadytakentremendousstepstowardscreatinganacceptingenvironment.permalink

    [] GracefulxArcher 2points

    What'sgoingonwith/r/allisn'twhatfatpeoplehatewasthough.Now,it'smostlyjustaggressiontowardstheadmins.Alotofpeoplemistakefatpeoplehateforaplacewherefatpeopleshouldgotoloseweight.It'snot.It'saplaceforpeoplewhoareannoyedatsomeonewhowasmorbidlyobese,becausetheirobesityinconveniencedthemorothers.Itparticularlyhatesparentsofobesechildren,forexample.Thissubisaboutgettingfit.Peoplecomeheretochangetheirlifestyle.Peoplewenttofatpeoplehatetorant.Especiallysince/r/offmychestbannedfatpeoplehatestyleposts.Theydidn'tgotheretogetfit.permalink

    [] N_Raist 3points

    This.IlikehavingaplacewhereIcancomplainabouycertainpeopleIfinddisgustingorirritatesme,justlikepeopleherecomplainabouttheguydoingcurlsinthesquatrack.Evenifit'snotwhenyouneedtodosquats,youfindthatbehaviorwrong.permalink

    [] GracefulxArcher 4points

    What'smore,hatespeechcanonlybedoneagainstsomeonewhohasaprotectedstatus.Thosecallingithatespeechareadmittingthatbeingfatisaprotectedstatus...Whichisjustabsurd.permalink

    [] RadioactiveCashew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Hatespeechisjustthat.Hatefulspeech.Itcanbeaboutliterallyanyone,andthere'sneveranyreasontospewhatredatsomeoneelse.Idon'tgetwhysomanypeoplearesoupsetaboutredditsaying"nomoreharassment".Itshouldn'thavetobesaid.permalink

    [] GracefulxArcher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Peoplehateforplentyofgoodreasons.Butwhetherornotyouthinkhatredisagoodemotionshouldn'tdictatewhetherornotpeopleshouldbeallowedtofeelit.Iagreewithyouthathatredisabadthing,butit'sanaturalemotionandpretendingitdoesn'texististheworstthingyoucando.FromWikipedia

    Inlaw,hatespeechisanyspeech,gestureorconduct,writing,ordisplaywhichisforbiddenbecauseitmayinciteviolenceorprejudicialactionagainstorbyaprotectedindividualorgroup,orbecauseitdisparagesorintimidatesaprotectedindividualorgroup.

    Hatefulspeech=/=hatespeech.Confusingthetwoiscommon,butnotgroundsforsilencinghundredsofthousandsofindividuals.permalink

    [] therealjohnfreeman 1points

  • Ithinkthere'sanumberofpeopleupsetthattherulesarebeingappliedselectively,thatsomehatespeechisokayifit'sagainstapprovedtargets.permalink

    [] enrichmentonly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Itwasn'tbannedbecauseofhatespeech.Itwasbannedbecauseitaggressivelyharassedindividuals.Iwasthevictimofsuchharassmentaboutsixweeksago.Iftheother'bad'subspeoplecalledoutconstantlyPM'dpeopleencouragingthemtocommitsuicide,thentheywouldlikelybebannedtoo.permalink

    [] Aethe 7points

    Look,thisreallydoesn'tbelonginfittit,butwhat'shappeningnowshouldhavehappenedoverfiveyearsagoatleast,ifnotwhencommentswereoriginallyintroducedaspartofReddit.Ihopetheadminskeepgoing,butthere'stoomuchforanysmallteamofadministrationtotakedown.Pastandpresentcaretakersofthissitehave,whetherornotthey'verealizedit,builttheperfectgroundsformisguided,hateful,andvehementspeechtofester.LikeIsaid,itisn'thealthy.Hating,gettingangry,wishingharm,andpropagatingideasoffalseclaimsofsuperiorityarenothowyoumaintainahealthyandopenmind.Andyeah,youcanmakesomeverycynicalinferencesoffofthatstatement,butI'llchoosenotto.permalink

    [] therealjohnfreeman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Hatespeechisn'tmymodusoperandieither,beforeyoujumptoconclusions.Reddit,underAlexisatleast,triedandsucceededinbuildingareputationasaplacethatallowednearlyunfetteredspeech,evenoffensive,hatefulspeech,becausetheybelieveditresultedinmoregoodthanharm.NowthatreputationhasbeenconsistentlyunderminedatleastsinceEllenPaotookover.Ithinkthere'sreasonablefrustrationoverthat.permalink

    [] kinkakinka 8points

    This.Youare100%right.permalink

    [] CrankRED 3points

    ichangedmyredditbookmarkfrom/allto/fronttillthisblowsover.permalink

    [] jredlinger2003 2points

    Everyonedeservesachancetopushthemselves.Youseeaproblemandyouwanttofixit.Thatishumanshadetreeengineering.Iapplaudfattiesinthegymbctheyareattemptingtomakeitbetteranddifferentforthemselves.Iwonderhowtomotivatepeopletoeatrightandworkoutwhenthecurrentsystemmakesitsoconvenientandcheaptoeatawfullyandbingewatchseasonsoftvshows.permalink

    [] nuetrino 3points

    There'scurrentlytrollsplaguingReddit.permalink

  • [] SteakMarsala 3points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thatsubwasmoreabouttheoverweightpeoplewhodon'trealizethat"fatacceptance"isn'taboutsexappeal,butaboutpromotingamedicaldiseaseinepidemic.Thetypesofpeoplewhoblametheworldinsteadoftakingaction.150kmembers,asiwasone,nevertrolledinothersubs.Idorecall"fatacceptance"trollsplaythesamegameinthatsub.thedifferenceisonlyonesidecomplained,thesidethatplaceblame.havingsaidthat,fatshamingdoesn'tupsetpeoplewhotrulywatchtheirweightorhaveundergonetrainingforagoodportionoftheirlives,especiallyincollegesports.tellmeyouhaven'tgonetothegymwhenyoudidn't"feel"likeit?tellmeyouhaven'tcursedyourselfoutatonepointoranotherfinishingsetsorrunningthatlastmile?itdoesn'tbotherme,itremindsmetogetbackontracknomatterhowmuchselfmasochismihavetoloathemyselfwith.itonlypissesoffthosewho,again,blametheworldfortheirlackofdisciplineandsacrifice,andwonderwhytheirresultsareastheyare.soasanathleticindividual,ihavetobecarefulofwhatisayinfrontofthosewhowillripmyheadoff,meanwhileitisnormalintheactiveworld.it'ssoobvioushownastythatparticularattitudeis.ifyoureadintothatsubmore,youwouldhaverealizingthatthemajoritywerefrustratedwiththehealthexcusespeopleselfdiagnosethemselveswith,manyofwhichwerecausedbytheobesity.taxpayersfoottheirmedicalanddisabilitybills.thesatirewasextremeattimes,butthebottomlineformanywasthatitisanobviouspublichealthissue.theapproachwaspoliticallyincorrectmanytimesaswell.afewrottenapplesgotitbannedwhichisstupidbecauseitwasn'tonesidedprovocation,andnoteveryonecaredtoarguebetweeneachother.trollsdon'tbothermeandsadly,theyaregivenpowerbythevulnerable.permalink

    [] tototiti42 0points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Peopleenjoybeingcruel,thatsthesadtruth.Theyalsoenjoybeingnice,iguessitsthatyingyangthing...permalink

    [] Yonzy 0points

    Idon'tthinkmostoftheoutrageisbecausepeoplelosttheirplacetohateonfatpeopleit'smostlybecausepeoplefeelthisisahamfistedmovetocurtailwhatyoucanandcannotsayonreddit.Inalotofpeople'smindsredditusedtobeaplatformwhereallvoiceswereheardandthatwaspartoftheappeal.Thisrecentsafespacepolicyisworrisome.IfIdon'tlikeasubredditIdon'tsubscribetoit.permalink

    [] AndG3o 1point

    Iabsolutelyagree,however,Ithinkthatcensoringpeopleiswrongnomatterwhattheysay.Iwillsupportfreespeechevenifthepersonistalkingbullshit.permalink

    [] TheFryingDutchman 11points

    Thankyou.Ifinditsickeningthatthepeoplewhoareflooding/r/allarepretendingthatthe'fatpeoplehate'subanditsprogenyareabouteducationandhelpingpeople.No,theylovekickingpeoplewhenthey'redown.Thisistheonlineversionoftormentingthatfat/nerdy/ugly/weirdkidinmiddleschool.permalink

  • [] zppa 56points

    It'snotafatpersoninthegym,it'saperson.Respectgoesalongwaypermalink

    [] FuckFemenazi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Butwhentheystartimposingthatobesityishealthyitsdifferentright?itsthesameasshamingsomeonethatisadvocatingheroineusepermalink

    [] broner4brady 4points

    Ithinkthatingeneralfatpeoplehatewasaboutpeoplebeingupsetabouthealthateverysizeasaculturaltrend.Thesepeoplehadnoproperoutlettofindasolutiontothisproblemandsotheymadejokesandgotkindamean.Fatpeopleshouldnotbehatedbuttheyalsoshouldn'tbelookedatashealthy.Obesityisaseriousprobleminthiscountryandisdegradingthelivesofmanyaswellasrobbingthisworldoftrulygoodpeoplewhoarebrothers,sisters,mothers,andfathers.Hatingisnotthewaytohelpthisproblembutneitherisacceptingpeopleasbeingfateventhoughtheyshouldstillberespectedasaperson.Iwouldlikeeveryonetoconstantlybeworkingtowardstheirownphysicalandmentalhealthandwishsocietycouldformasupportivestructuretohelppeopleloseweight.Idon'thavegrandparentsanymoreduetotheircomplicationswithdiabetesandI'monly23.Healthateverysizeisaproblem.Fatpeoplehateisaproblem.Weshouldallbeworkingtogethertofindthesolutionsothatthenextgenerationwillnotbedeprivedofgrowingoldwiththeirlovedones.permalink

    [] MissAugusta 36points

    Reddithasactuallydisgustedmetoday.PeopleareactuallytryingtosmearEllenPaofortakingawaytheirrighttobullypeople.It'sshamefulandrevoltingandI'mgladthereareoneortwopositivethreadslikethisoneamongthetorrentofhate.permalink

    [] mentionthistome undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ifeltdisgustedtoo.Youconstantlyseethe"Welp,that'senoughRedditfortoday"joke,butyesterdaywasthefirsttimeIactuallynavigatedtothissitewiththeintentionofspendingtimeonit,readsomething,andclosedthetabasareactiontowhatIsaw.IunderstandthedangersofobesityandIunderstandwantingfreedomofexpression.Butthesheervolumeofpeopleupvotingridiculous,aggressive,maliciousattacksonthe"fat"(?)modswassodisheartening.permalink

    [] I3ombastic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    TILlaughingaboutanonymouspicturesoffatpeopleonasmallprivateforum=bullyingpermalink

    [] Im_a_fuckin_asshole undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ithinkwhatalotofpeopleareworriedaboutisn'tthefactthatthehategroupsgotremoved,butthatRedditcandecidewhatisandisn'tallowedanymore.Assomeonewhohasalotof(legal)fetishesthatsocietyatlargeprobablyseesasfuckedup,Ihavetowonderifthesubredditsforthosecommunitiesarealsoatriskofbeingdeleted.permalink

    [] scotty_pimmpen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Seriously.ItwouldbegreatifallofthosepeoplecomplainingandtalkingaboutleavingRedditactuallydid.permalink

  • [] Earl_of_sandwiches 5points

    Don'tfeelbad,OP.Everyonehas"completelymissedthegoddamnpoint"onceortwicebefore.permalink

    [] ninnikubou 0points

    Onceagain/r/fitnessisapparentlybetterthaneveryoneelse.https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/3972to?sort=confidencepermalink

    [] clawz_nd_webz 1point

    IamnotproFPHatall,butIamantiHAES.It'sareallyreallyterriblewayofthinkingthatCANpromoteunhealthylifestyles.permalink

    [] sciuridae_ 5points

    Igetwhereyou'recomingfrombutIpersonallydisagree.There'salotofidiotswhohavegotthewrongendofthestickbutfromwhatI'veseenHAESissupposedtobemorealongthelinesof"beingskinnydoesn'tnecessarilymeanyou'rehealthierthananoverweightperson,andviceversa"andfocusingonselfimprovementwhilemakinganefforttoloveyourbodyeverystepoftheway.(Eg.Hypothetically,askinnypersoncanbeunhealthierthanaslightlyoverweightpersoniftheoverweightpersonhasamostlyhealthylifestylebuteatstoomuchchocolatewhiletheskinnypersondoesn'texercise,smokes,drinks,andeatsnothingbutnutrientpoorsaltycrap.)Ortoputitsimply,"youCANmakeanefforttofollowahealthylifestyle,nomatterwhatyoursize"ratherthan"morbidlyobesepeopleare100%healthyandyoucan'ttellmeanydifferentLALALALALA"Personallythatwayofthinkinghelpedmealot.I'veneverbeenfatbutafewyearsagoIdidgofromhavingaBMIslapbanginthemiddleofthe'healthyweight'rangetoaBMIattheupperendofthatsamerange.Idevelopedanunhealthybodyimageandacomplicatedrelationshipwithfoodthatwouldseemestandinginmyuniversity'sstudentshopwantingtobuysomethingforlunchbutbeingparalysedbytheconflictingdesirestoeatandtostarvemyself.Learningtolovemyselfandrecognisingthatmyweightdidn'tneccessarilyhavetodefinemyselfworth,whetherIwasbeautifulornot,ormyoverallfitnesswasinstrumentalinlettinggooftheviciouscycleIwastrappedin.Istartedrunningforfun,eventhoughIwascrapatfirst,becauseIloveditanditmademefeelgreat.Istartedeatingbetterandchoosinghealthierrevisionsnacksformylatenightlibrarysessions.IstoppedbeatingmyselfupifIatesomething"unhealthy"andIstoppedpokingatandobsessingover"flab"inthemirror.BasicallyIlivedahealthylifestylebecauseIwantedtobehealthy,nomatterifIlostweightornot,which(unsurprisingly)leadtomelosingweight.:)permalink

    [] clawz_nd_webz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Right,HAESissupposedtobethatway.IthinkthattheproperHAESisgood.TheproblemisthatpeoplearepervertingHAESandit'sturningintosomethingthatisanegative.PeoplearegenuinelybelievingthattheycanbemorbidlyobeseanditisahealthylifestylebecauseoftheHAESmentality.IthinkthatFPHmentalitywasabsurd.TothinkthatEVERYONEhadtobewithinthe"Healthy"BMIzoneisridiculous.There'snothingwrongwithalittlecushionandpromotingHAESasalright.Myproblemisthatwiththemorbidlyobesewhoaretellingpeoplethatit'sokaytobethatbigandthattheirDoctorsadvicetoloseweightiswrong.That'smyproblem.Everyonehasachoicetodowhatevertheywantwiththeirbodies,butdon'ttrytoconvincepeoplethatitishealthytohaveatrulyunhealthylifestyle.You'renolongerjusteffectingyourbody.You'retryingtoeffectothersnowas

  • wellandnotinapositiveway.permalink

    [] gduncan229 1point

    I'malsoaformerfatguy,andhonestlyIwashappyforalongtimebeingoverweight.Ididn'thaveanyhealthproblems,andIcoulddoeverythingIwantedto.ButthenonedayIchanged.Iwon'tgointothestory,butitwasoneofthefirsttimesIfeltfat.SoIlostit.Iwentfrombeing5'11"at280lbto156lb,whichatthatweightformewassickly,butIwasdeterminedtoloseweight.AfteracoupleofyearsI'mnowhealthier.I'maround190lb,buteventothisday.I'mtryingtodomyfirstbulkandit'sbeenhardbecausewhileI'mbetterIstillfearthefatattimesandstumblebacktomyoldways.SoIthinkshamingoverweightpeopleisjustwrong.Ifanythingtheyshouldbeencouraged.There'sacoupleofoverweightpeopleatmygymandmostofthemaretherewheneverIamandtheystayjustaslongasIdo.Tomethey'redoinggreatbecausetheyhaven'tgivenup.Eveniftheydon'tloseweighttheirbodiesarebetterforit.NowIknowsomethathavekindofgivenup.Theywillcomplainthattheycan'tdosomethingbecausesomethingpreventsthem.Ithinkthesepeopleshouldbeencouragedtoo.WhenIwasoverweightIcouldn'trunbecausemykneesbuggedme.LastyearIranahalfmarathonandmykneeswerefinebythetimeIwasdone.Encouragementisthebestapproachoverall.Shamingjustleadstopeopleeithergivingupbecausetheygetbeatendone,orlikeformecausesthemtostrugglewithbeingahealthyweight.permalink

    [] Sith_Gains 1point

    Idon'tthinkbeingfatishealthybutIbelieveit'sapersonalchoiceinalotofways.Ithappenstolotsofpeoplebutreallypeopleletithappentothem.permalink

    [] BitCY 1point

    Lookingatpeoplewhopostherewhobecomehalfthesizetheywerewithdietandexerciseisamazingtoseeandijusthavemadrespectforthem.Peoplewhojustblameeverythingelsefortheirweight.Thoseihavenorespect.permalink

    [] moiez326 4points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Firstoff,youdontknowwhatfphisallabout.Fphwasandisntabouthatingpeople,itshatingthewholeideaoffatacceptanceandpraising.Youdactuallybesurprisedhowwelcomingandsupportiveandknowledgeablefphmembersare.Second,likewhateveryonehassaid:sometimes,hateisexactlywhatyouneedtoopenyoureyes.Sometimesyouneedtoheartheuglytruth.Itsliketellingastupidperson:heyithinkyoushould,maybe,idk,pickupabookonceinawhile?Butthatwonthelp.Instead,youhavetoshowthemhowfuckingstupidandillinformedtheyreallyareandhowitsfuckinguptheirandeveryoneelse'slife.permalink

    [] mhende 1point

    Somepeoplelikehavinganoutlettobemean,andpretendingthatitishelpfulmakesyoufeelbetteraboutit.Itmighthelpsomepeople,butitsprettywellestablishedthatdifferentpeoplearemotivatedanddiscouragedbydifferentthings.Ifyouarealloverredditpreachingfatacceptance,orifyou'repostingfatpeoplehatetotryamdcounteractthat...Imeanbothmakesyoukindofaweirdotome.Whyisitsohardtojustbenormalandnotbeaninternetnutjob?permalink

  • [] Kivla 5points

    Don'tbenaive.FPHwaspurelyhatingonobeseandoverweightpeoplebasedonhowtheylooked.Thehatredthatspewedfromthatsubreddithadnothingtodowithfatacceptance.Theuserswoulduploadpicsfrompeople'sFBsandsayshitlikeHAHALOOKATDATLANDWHALE.Yeah.Totallyhatingonfatacceptance.Alsoforacommunitythatissupposedtobeso"welcoming"and"supportive"theysuredidn'tactlikeit.Modsatthatsubweremorethanhappytobanpeoplethatwerefatorweredeemedfatsympathisers.Theusersofthesubcelebratedwhenithappenedandthenwouldinsulttheuser.Suchawelcomingcommunityrightthere.permalink

    [] jorge1213 2points

    I'veneverjudgedasinglefatpersonatthegym.ButIhatethefattyoutsidethegymdoingnothingtoimprovehiswellbeing.permalink

    [] chiroquesvistunoque undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Hambeastsstrikeback!permalink

    [] MythicalBlackFox 2points

    itssadthatbeingfatgetsyoujudgedsoquickly.BothmybrotherandIgainweightveryeasily,sowetendtogainandtrylosingweightoverandover.It'snoteasy,butwhoamitocomplain,ithasgivenmediscipline.Icanassureeveryonewhohasntbeenoverweightthatnooneenjoyslookinglikethat.It'sabouttimeforpeopletorespectthosewhoareputtingefforttobetterthemselves.permalink

    [] Bookkeep 9points

    Fitnessisalready,bydefinition,fatpeoplehatethough.it'sjustfatpeoplehatingthemselvesandwantingtochange.permalink

    [] Pxorp 3points

    Somepeopleneedtofeelashamedoftheirbodytochangesomething.PartofwhyAmericansaresofatisbecauseithasbecomenormal,noonebatsaneyeifafattywalksby.FPH'spurposewastogoagainstthisfatacceptancemovementwhichtotallymakessense.Mostofthecontentwaspurebullying,though.Ikindalikedvisitingitforthelaughs,thepicturewerepuregoldsometimes.permalink

    [] oneandoneis2 4points

    wonderingwhattheotherpeopleinthegymarethinkingaboutyou

    Actually,IME,theanswertothatisneither"goodonya"OR"scum"it's"they'renotthinkingaboutyou".IrememberwhenIfirststartedbackatthegymcomingfromtheotherextremeofskinandbonesweaklingwhowasgenuinelyworriedabouttryingtoliftabarbellbar,nevermindputtingweightonit.IdeliberatelychoseatimeIwasprettysuretheplacewouldbenearemptyandstillstruggledwiththe"everyoneislookingatme/judgingme/mockingme"fears.AfewworkoutslaterandIrealisedthatwhenIwasinaworkout,otherpeoplebarelyevenregisteredasexistingatall,nevermindmakingitfarenoughintomyconsciousnesstojudgethem.

  • Unlessyou'reusingthepieceofequipmentIwanttousenext,youcansafelyassumethatnotonlyamInotjudgingyou,I'mnotevenreallyawareofyouatall.(AndifyouAREhoggingtheequipmentIwant,notonlyamIawareofyoubutIhateyouwiththeheatofathousandsunsregardlessofyourbuild)permalink

    [] iiuybr 2points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    It'sbecausethebanned/r/fatpeoplehate...permalink

    [] space_wine 9points

    https://i.imgur.com/foATDvf.jpgpermalink

    [] xmikelopez 2points

    Sooppressedpermalink

    [] PrometheusIsFree 6points

    There'salotoffitpeoplewhousedtobefat.Mostareinheretohelpnotabuse.permalink

    [] SteakMarsala 6points

    fatshamingdoesn'tbelonghere,ofcourse.permalink

    [] Galahad_Lancelot 4points

    FUCKYES!Hatingandinsultingdoesnothingtohelpandit'sfuckingpathetic.thankyousir.permalink

    [] Heuristics 1point

    Istarteddoingfitnessinpartduetoridicule.Itdoeshelp.permalink

    [] vallsin 2points

    thanksmanthelastlinereallyhelpedmedragmyasstothegymtoday...permalink

    [] rubbishmyjunk 0points

    That'snotthepoint.Thepointisthatthey'vebacktrackedonholdingfreespeechinthehighestregard.Illideaswillbebeatdowninthecourtofpublicopinion.Censorshipistheultimatecowardice.IknowIsoundlikearetardtryingtosoundlikearevolutionaryoverbeingabletolaughatfatties,butcomeon.permalink

    [] Kivla 7points

    BlahblahblahandFPHmodsactivelybannedanyoneforbeingfatorafatsympathiser.Wherewastheoutragewhentheycensoreddissentingopinionsintheirsub?permalink

    [] misterTaco 8points

    FPHissuperbutthurtaboutbeingcensored,yettheywouldbanliterallyanyonethatdidntjumponthecirclejerk.Anyonethatdisagreedatallgotbanned.Biggestdamngroupofhypocritesever.

  • permalink

    [] elpachucasunrise 7points

    Therighttofreespeechdoesn'tmeanrighttostalkandharass.permalink

    [] Chibiheaven 10points

    IfI'vereadcorrectly,peopleactivelywentoutoftheirwaytostalkredditorswho'vepostedpicsofthemselves,andthenshamingthem.Howisthatokay?Wouldyouwanttobecalledout?permalink

    [] Tarmairon 10points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Howdoesbanningthesub,whichdidn'tencouragethatbehaviorbtw,changethat?Theusersarestilloutthere,andnowtheyknowtheyrustledlejimmes.It'sjustaPRmovetoshowthatredditis"takingsteps"tomakeitasafeplace.permalink

    [] misterTaco 4points

    Ifthesuballowedittohappen(itdid)andthosetypesofpostsgotupvoted(theydid)howisthatnotencouragingthattypeofbehavior?permalink

    [] 10week 16points

    Iwasgladtoseenoneofthatbullshitheretillthispost...permalink

    [] angst_angst_angst undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Honestly."I'mreallygladwe'renottalkingaboutfatpeoplehate,solet'screateathreadwherepeoplecanargueaboutwhetherfatshamingworksornot."Okayguys.permalink

    [] Absolvo_Me 2points

    Ijustwanttobringittoattentionthatthe'fatpeoplehate'here(immostlyreferringtothe/r/fatpeoplestoriesthatmakethefrontpage)doesnotapplytooverweightpeopleingeneral.Itappliestotheentitledlazyfatpeoplethatmakeourlivesmiserable.Asaruleofthumb,ifyoureplacetheword'fat'with/anyotherslurofyourchoiceandstillreadthestory,thenitisjustaboutanassholeingeneral.permalink

    [] King_Kydos 23points

    Everysanepersonknowsthathatingpeopledoesn'thelpthem

    Withouttryingtogetprovokeabigdebate,alotofthehateisactuallydirectedatpeoplewhotrytojustifytheirweight,trytoclaimthatthey'rehealthydespitemedicalexpertssayingotherwiseandactuallytrytoputnormalsizedpeopledownforbowingtosociety'sstandards.Allinthisisknownasthe"fatacceptancemovement"Ipersonallyhaven'tgotanyproblemwithpeoplewhoareoverweightandwouldn'tdreamoflookingdownonafatpersonatthegym,butpeoplewhotrytopropagateliesandclaimthatbeing5'5"and19stoneis"beautifulandhealthy"makemeangry.ObesityisbecominganinsaneprobleminmanypartsoftheworldandIdon'twantchildrenseeingpeoplelikeTessMunstersayingthatitiscompletelyhealthyandacceptabletobehersizewhenallthesciencesaysitisnothealthy.

  • ObviouslysomeofthestuffonFPHwasoverthetop,vitriolicgarbagebutIpersonallyfindfatacceptancejustasoffensiveasthebadstuffonFPH,it'swrongforonlyonesideofthisargumenttobesilencedlikeitwas.permalink

    [] captnyoss 8points

    IwasbrieflysubscribedandIenjoyedthepostswherepeopleposteddumbthingsoverweightpeoplehadsaidaboutfitnessorwhytheywerefat.Butthenthesubfilledwithpostsofoverweightpeopledoingtotallynormalthingsandgettingviciouslyattackedforbeingfatanditwasn'tfunitwasjustoverthetopbullying.SoIwhileIguessthere'sanargumentaboutfreedomofspeechorwhatever,Ipersonallyamgladtohaveunsubscribed.permalink

    [] Kivla 39points

    Butfatacceptancewastackledinothersubslike/r/fatlogic.FPHdidn'tspecificallygoafterHAESpeople.Theusersofthattoxicsubwouldtakephotosofrandompeopleinpublicthensharethemaroundforthousandsofuserstolaughatandinsultthepicturedindividual.Wannaknowhowmanyofthosepeopleevenknewaboutfatacceptance?BarelyfuckinganyIbet.Idon'tevenhearaboutFAoutsideofredditorscomplainingaboutit.It'snotthismassivemovementthatredditproclaimsittobeandsayingthatFPHonlytargetedpeopleassociatedwiththatmovementisdownrightignorantandstraightupalie.permalink

    [] King_Kydos 1point[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    sayingthatFPHonlytargetedpeopleassociatedwiththatmovementisdownrightignorantandstraightupalie.

    LuckyformeIwentoutofmywaynottosaythat,infactIsaid>someofthestuffonFPHwasoverthetop,vitriolicgarbageButalargeproportionofthepostsweredirectedatthelikesofMunsterandother"plussizemodels"whoareadvocatinganunhealthywayoflifeandI'mallforthatsortofcriticism.TessMunsterhas846kfollowersonInstagramsoit'ssafetosayFAexistsoutsideofreddit,Ithink.Andjusttoreiteratemystanceoverall,Idon'tcondoneeverythingFPHusedtodobutIthinkitiswrongthatitwasjustsilencedlikeitwas.permalink

    [] Kivla 5points

    Fairenough,youdidn'tsayonlytargetedfatacceptanceetc.Imisquoted.Butyoudidsaythatmostofthehatewastargetedatthatmovement.Istillthinkthatiswrong.Istandbymypreviousstatement.Thatsubredditwasnothingbutbullyingpeopleforthewaytheylooked.permalink

    [] King_Kydos 1point

    Honestly,wheneverIwentonit,TessMunsterwasineverysecondpost.Maybeitdegeneratedalotmoretowards'theend'(whichwouldn'tsurpriseme,mostsubredditsdegeneraterapidlyastheygainpopularity),butIthinkbanningwastooharsh,therearefarfarworsesubredditsoutthere.Itsmacksofbowingtopublicpressuretomebecauseitwasoneofthemorepopularoffensivesubs.There'salsonoexplanationforwhynewersubredditsarebeingbannedwhentheycan'tpossiblyhavebrokenanyrulesyet.permalink

    [] Unbrokenspirit 4points

    Fromsomeonewholost75lbs,Ihaveseenbothsidesofthecoin.Hatinganyoneforasimpleandnondiscriminatory

  • reasonisutterbullshitanditsaysmoreaboutyouthanitdoesabouttheissue.FatpeoplehatefromwhatI'veseenseemstobemorelikeasociallyacceptedformofbullying.NottosayitexistseverywhereofissomethingIwanttoparticipatein,butitexistsnonetheless.Thatbeingsaid,everytimeIgointhegymIhaveoneoftwothoughts.IseeoverweightpeopleinthegymandIeitherthink,a)goodonyou,you'reasmallpercentageofthepopulationofoverweightpeoplewhoareDOINGsomethingaboutit.Orb)Iseeinmygymmanyoverweightpeoplesignupandcomeforamonth,slowlysittingonanexcercisebikeandbarelypedalingwhilereadingamagazine.WhileIhavemadethetransformationmyselfanditthereforegivesmeaslightbias,Iknowthestruggle.Iapplaudeverysingleoverweightpersonmakingtheattempttoloseweightbyexcercise.Dietsoftenfail,butbuildingalifestyleofcommitmentandhabittrulyhelptobreakthemonotonythatbroughtthemtothestatetheyareininthefirstplace.Nobodyshouldhateonfatpeopleunlessit'sforasolidreason,likeifthey'rebeinganasshole.Ifsomeoneisnice,greatthemnicely.Ididn'tgainanyconfidenceuntilIstartedconsistentlyworkingoutandtransformingmybody.I'mstillfarfromperfect,butperspectiveisamotherfuckerandIknowwhatI'vegonethroughtogethereandI'llbedamnedifIletanyonetakethatawayfromme.It'sashamethatpeoplewouldratherhateonfatpeopleforfuninsteadofprovideguidelinesandencouragementtohelptransformboththeirhealthandlifeoutlook.permalink

    [] AstroWarriorPitPot 3points

    uwotm8permalink

    [] gkoogz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Fatpeopledeservetobehatedforeverythingtheirfuckingpigmouthsandsocietalburdenareworthpermalink

    [] TOSH2345 2points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Andifyouareafatpersonreadingthispostwhoiswonderingwhattheotherpeopleinthegymarethinkingaboutyou,itisnotallthisbollocksbeingpostedonthissite.IthinkIcanspeakonbehalfofmostofusinthissubwhenIsaythatuponseeingafatpersoninthegymIthink'fuckinggoodonyamate'not'errryouarescum'.

    Ithinkasagroupgymgoersaretheleastlikelytohateuponfatpeopleinthegym.Peoplewhoareintofitnessallsharesimilarcorevaluesinparticularselfimprovementandinnerdrive,Whetheryou'refat,thin,old,young,havesomedisability,fit/unfitthefactyou'reinthegymshowsthatyouhavethesecommongoals.Forallitsposturingandvanitythegymisactuallyaveryinclusiveplacebecauseofthis.permalink

    [] barakvesh 7points

    ITY:"shamingfatpeopleisokay,really"Disappointing,/r/fitnesspermalink

    [] BlakesDonger 1points

    Itisokayinsomecases.Somefatpeoplemaywanttochangeifyoutellthemthattheyneedtoeathealthier,ontheotherhandsomefatpeoplemaywanttochangeifyoucallthemafatbagofshitwho'sgonnadiebeforehereaches60.permalink

    [] barakvesh 5points

  • Ithinkthe"don'tbeanasshole"liferuleappliestointeractingwithfatpeopletoopermalink

    [] MonkeyMercenaryCapt 15points

    Iknowright:(fatpeoplehatewentfarbeyondfatshamingitwasliterallyaboarddedicatedtotheabsolutehatredoffatpeople.Itsliketakingthetenantsofantisemitismandapplyingittofatpeople.permalink

    [] yoshi314 0points

    youkeepreferringtofatpeoplewhoarewillingtochange.thereareplentyofpeoplesubscribedtoHAESlogic,whichseesucheffortsas"shaming",andclaimthattheyarehealthy.theyrefusetobeeducated,theyrefusetochange,andtheonlyproblemtheyseeiswhyotherpeopledonotfindthemattractive,orhowslimmerpeoplehaveeasierlifedueto'thinprivilege'someofthemmakemoneyonpromotingsuchlogic.ofcoursetherearesanefatpeople,whoworkonlosingweight.buttherearealsocaseslikethese.thewholedramawasabouttheeffectiveshotgunapproachcensorshiphere,whichaffectedalsopeoplebashingthoseHAESfolks.permalink

    [] 4cimos 7points

    Thewholedramawasabout/r/FPHaccessingprivateinformationandphotosofimgurstaffandencouraginguserstoharassthem.Ithadnothingtodowiththecontentofthesubreddit.InspeakingofthecontentthoughI'mgladfatpeoplehateisgone.ItwasnotanalternativevoicetoHAES.Itwasaviciousplacefullofviciousandcruelpeople.Idistinctlyrememberapostthereaboutaguywhowassavingupforsurgerytogetridofmassesandmassesoflooseskinafterlosingcloseto200pounds(hedidn'tpostittherethepostwastakenfromoneoftheweightlosssubreddits).Hisphotowasridiculedandcommentersweresayingthatheshouldkeeptheskinasa"ScarletLetter"toletothersknowheusedtobefat.It,like/r/jailbait,won'tbemissed.permalink

    [] yoshi314 2points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    well,idon'tmindthatonegone,especiallyifyoumentiondoxxing.butidonotlikethefallout.permalink

    [] barneythepurplethot 2points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    idon'tagreewithfphbutsomepeoplerespondpositivelytoharshtruthsandothersrespondpositivelytokindwordsandencouragementitjustdependsontheinduvidualpermalink

    [] only_spoons 35points

    Ithinkalotofpeoplehaveadeepfearofbeingfatand"disgusting"(whateverthatmeanstothempersonally)themselvesandthatiswhytheyaresovocalintheirhatred.It'slikeonlybyremindingthemselveshowawfultheythinkitiscantheypreventthemselvesfrombecominglikethat.I'veneverbeenfatpersonallybutIhavestruggledwithbodyimageandIamawarethatpersonallyIdonotwanttobeoverweight.Andhonestlyit'snotevenahealththingIcanadmitthatIdon'twanttobeperceivedasunattractive.However,thisdoesn'tmakemehatefatpeople.I'mawarethatifIfeeluncomfortablewithbeingfat,theymightwellfeeljustasuncomfortable.Itmakesmefeelempathy.IfeelsorrythatsomeonemaynotbeabletofindawaytogetoutofthatpositionbecauseIknowIwouldwantto.permalink

    [] PM_ME_YOUR_QUADS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

  • Iwoulddescribeitasmoreofandequallyextreme,oppositereactiontotheHAESandotherfatnormalizationmovements,maybeevenMalcomXesque.Itwastheoppositesideofthespectrum.permalink

    [] N_Raist 0points

    Howdoyouhavedeepfearofactivelydoingsomethingforalongperiodoftime?Iwouldn'tliketogetfat,forsure,justlikeIwouldn'tlikedoingmeth.Butthatdoesn'tmeanIfearit,becauseit'ssomethingIhavegreatcontrolover.permalink

    [] cardevitoraphicticia 1points

    WhereasI'mjustpartofthisbecauseIthinkcensorshipisworsethanhatespeech.permalink

    [] ripsonofficial 2points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Theonlytypeofhatethatwillworkisifyou'refatandyouhateyourselfsothatburnsafireinsideyoutochangeyourself,butusuallyselfhatenevermotivatespeoplejustbringsthemdownintoworsepositions.Butwhatifyouhatedfarpeoplesomuchthatyouliterallyputallyourstrengthandtimeintotryingtoeducatepropernutritionandexerciseandmakeitallcheaperandmoreavailableonaglobalscalebecauseyouneverwantedtoseeafatpersonagain?Thatwouldbeawierdfuckingwaytogoaboutit.permalink

    [] Synaps4 9points

    ItWASnicenottoseeithere.nowyou'vestartedthediscussionhere.Ididn'tneedanothersubreddittodiscussthistopic.Ialreadyhavetheentirerestofthesiteforthat...permalink

    [] Brelett 0points

    sowhatdoyouthinkaboutthisallpermalink

    [] 9inety9ine 1point[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Everysanepersonknowsthathatingpeopledoesn'thelpthem

    Mostsanepeopleknowthatcensoringpeopledoesn'tmakethemgoaway.Theyhadaplacetopostthatstuffandnowit'sbeentakenaway.It'slikefindingapaperbagthat'sonfire,thatyouknowisfullofdogshit,butyoustomponitanyway.permalink

    [] harveybirdman 2points

    IunsubbedfromthemainsubredditslongagosoI'veonlygotthegistofthecurrentdramagoingon(bywhatIunderstandessentiallymainsubredditsaregettingfloodedwithantiobesityandfathateposts?).I'mverygladthatstupiddramahasn'tfloodedintothissubtoo.Idon'tagreewithfathateandIdon'tthinkit'sparticularlyhelpful.Itcanbeamotivatorforweightlossforsomebutshamingisnotreallyapositivewayofgoingaboutitandcanleadtointernalisingalotofselfhateaswellashateforotherfatpeople.Butthatbeingsaid,Idon'tagreewithfatacceptanceeither.Promotinganunhealthyweightorunhealthylifestyleasacceptableisjustwronganddangerous.permalink

    [] AdumbroDeus 14points

  • That'stheticket,encouragementnothate.permalink

    [] Crookmeister 3points

    I'dsay/allrightnowislessabouthatingfatpeopleandmoreaboutrebellingandshittingonredditforcensorship.I'mkindafinewithit.I'vebeenusingvoatforawhilenowanyway.Lessshitgoesonthereandit'sniceandcalmandquiet.It'sjustpeoplesharingcontent.permalink

    [] mustfarfar 3points

    Ifthereareanypeopleouttherewhounderstandfeelingfat,ugly,weakorsmallit'sthepeoplewhostartedexercising.Suresomepeoplemightbetootakenwiththeirowninsecuritiessotheyprojecttheirnegativityand"hate"towardsothersbutIthinkweat/r/fitnesshaveaslightlybetterunderstandingforthedifficultythanmostpeople.permalink

    [] InfiniteV 945points

    Thisis/r/fitness.Wediscussfitnessfromanobjectivestandpoint.Idon'tthinkanyoneheregivesashitaboutfatpeopleunlessthey'recurlinginthesquatrack.permalink

    [] mehavesomethingtosay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    thereareplentyofpeoplein/r/fitnessdiscussingfitnessfromanextremelysubjectivestandpoint.permalink

    [] potatomeat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    EverytimeIposton/r/Fitnessaboutmytroubleswithovercomingmybattlewithfat,lookingforguidanceormotivation,Igetmeatheadsrespondingwithangrydribble.So,after3or4ofthese,Ijuststoppedasking/r/Fitnessforanythingandhavesincedeletedallmyposts.permalink

    [] jaredb45 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Formeitisnota"hate"offatpeopleliketherewasonFPH,itsahatredofthelackofdesiretostaysomewhathealthyortakecareofonesself.Iknownotever"large"personcanhelpitbutaperfectexampleofwhatIcantstandisIhaveacoworkerwhoisoverweightandgetsoutofbreathjustwalking20'orso.Hecomplainsallthetimeabouthowheisoverweightandhisdoctorssaythereisnothingtheycandoforhisconditionsuntilhedropssomeweight.Wellatlunchheeatsmassiveamountsofshittyfoodandsayshewillneverexercise.I'vetriedtohelphimmultipletimes(notinfrontofanyone)bygivinghimexerciseoptionsanddiettips.Heofcoursehasn'tdoneanyofthoseoranythingatallandeverytimehecomplainsIwanttotellhimtostfubecauseherefusestodoanythingaboutit.EverytimeIseesomeonesprogresspicsonhereIwishIcouldgivethemabighighfiveandtellthemhowfuckingawesomeofajobtheyaredoing.Sorry,okayrantover.permalink

    [] Crunkenstien undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    It'snotaboutfatpeoplehate.It'saboutfreespeech.ThebanningofFPHwasjustthefinalstraw.permalink

    [] Catholic_Spray undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Wediscussfitnessfromanobjectivestandpoint.

    Youmustbenewhere.

  • permalink

    [] Geruvah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    coughWhenit'sreallylateatnightandnobodyelseisintheroom,Idoit...permalink

    [] zortor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Yourcommentisnice,thoI'venotfoundr/fitnesstobeanobjectivediscussion.permalink

    [] nano_343 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Idon'tthinkanyoneheregivesashitaboutfatpeopleunlessthey'recurlinginthesquatrack.

    Thisappliestoeveryone,notjustfatpeople.Ihateitwhenyou'retakingupspace,sothatyoucansayitwenttothegym.There'sagirlatmygym,hasbeengoingforabout6monthsnow.Hasmadeabsolutelyzeroprogress.None.Shehasatrainer(whoisaboutasunfitassheis)aswell.Whyshehasn'tfiredhimyetandbeganworkingwithmanyoftheNationallevelcompetitorswealsohaveastrainers,Idon'tunderstand.Instead,she'stherethreedaysaweek,complaininghowshehasn'tseentheprogressshewants.You'rewastingyourtimeandmoney.Andyou'rewastingmytimebytakingupgymspacethatIcouldbeusingtoactuallymakeprogress.Fatorskinny,thosearethepeopleIcan'tstand.permalink

    [] Crap4Soul undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Hotgirlcurlinginthesquatrackalsounacceptable.Wehaveequalitystandardshere.permalink

    [] slapyomomma13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thisisoneofmyfavgymratrants.Theinfamousargumentofwhetherornotpeopleshouldbedoingbarbellcurlsinthesquatracks.Theanswerisfuckyou.noseriouslythough,1)thewidergriponthebarbellallowsforabetterpumpfortheinsideofthebicepasyourarmsareforcedoutwardsbythebarbell.2)nowthatwehaveareasonableuse/argumentforthebarbellletsdiscussdoingitinthesquatracks,wherearethebarbells?youguessedit,squatracks.Sowhetherornotsomeonedoesitinthesquatrackornotyoustillloseoutonyourbarbellandhaveauselesssquatrack.3)itsapublicgymandthisarguementisusedasasenseofbelongingtoaclique.Ivebeentrainingforabouttenyears,andihaveheardthisargumenttimeandtimeagain,nooneistakingsolongdoingcurlsinasquatrackthatitimpedesonyourworkout.Icantevencounttheamountoftimesiseeguysinthegymconstantlymountupmaxweightsfor12badformrepsandthensomehowmaketheargumentabout"uknowwhatihateinthegym...."likereally?Itskindoflikecomplainingaboutnewgymmembersinthenewyear,really?youneverstartedoffassomesmallshrimpyoroverweightkidtryingtogetintoshape?you'veneverwantedtochangesomethingaboutyourlifeandhadtostartatgroundzero?Peoplearesoampedattearingotherpeopledownjusttofitin.Liveandletlive.permalink

  • [] smurf_diggler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    [http://imgur.com/gallery/7LmJQfY](SpreadAwareness)permalink

    [] epibolic 0points

    Isubmittedthisto/r/bestof.Thispostmademymorning.Here'swhy:Iwassurprisedbyreddit'sdecisiontobansomesubs.Iwasshockedbythebacklash.Iwasdisgustedbyhowquicklyitdevolvedintomisogyny,callingtheredditCEOac***andexpressingadesiretopunchherintheface.Itremindedmeofhowgamergatequicklywentfromadiscussionofintegrityingamereviewstopersonalattacksoffemalegamesjournalists.Ifledfrom/r/alltomysubreddits,lookingforsolace.Ifoundthis./r/fitnessstrikesmeastheperfectplaceforthisdiscussion.Thecontroversyof/r/fatpeoplehateisinherentlyaboutfitness.Peoplethatarefatarenotphysicallyfit.Theyaremockedon/r/fatpeoplehateforthislackoffitness.Redditleadershipdecidesthatthehatersarenotsociallyfit,andbansthemforthislackoffitness.RedditorsrespondbystatingthattheCEOofredditisnotfitandfloodthesitewithhateforthislackoffitness.Fitness,initsDarwiniansense,meansthestateofbeingsuitablyadaptedtoanenvironment.Ineachofthethreecasesabove,thesubjectwasdeemedunfitandpunishmentswerelevelled.Thisisnotasurprisingoutcome,asitishowbiologyandsocietyoperates.Theorganismrejectsthethingsthatstandinthewayofitsdefinitionofsuccess.Successisrelativeandoftencontradictory.Conflictrisesfromthesecontradictions.Thispostwasanaffirmationthatthereisanothersidetothisstory.Therearecommentsfrompeoplewhousedtobefatandbelievetheyneededsomehatetoencouragethemtobehealthier.Therearecommentsaboutagrowinguneasinessinthemedicalcommunitytobebluntaboutpatient'shealthissuesforfearofbeinglabelledahater.Therecommentsthatquestionwhatisgoingonin/r/all./r/fitnesshasalwaysbeenaterrificplacetohaveopendiscussionsaboutfitnessandreceiveintelligent,frank,andkindfeedbackandcriticism.Ibelievethatthereisnobetterplaceonreddittodiscussthefitnessofreddit'schoiceandthefitnessofreddit'sreactiontothatchoice.Iapplaudyou,/r/fitness.Iapplaudallofus,fat,skinny,haters,CEOs,wecangetbeyondthisconflict.Thanks.permalink

    [] Neuromancer311 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Theideaisthatthereshouldbefreedomtoopenlydiscusswhatwewantto.Iwasn'tamemberandreallydon'thavetimetowasteonfathatebutIthinkpeopleshouldhavetheabilitytodiscussit.Theproblemisthatitallspiralsintohavingtodecidewhichgroupstoallow.WeclosedfatpeoplehategreatforsomeIguessbutwestillhavecutefemalecorpses.Whatthefuck?Priorities.permalink

    [] great_____divide undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    It'snotaboutthesubreddititself,it'saboutthecensorship.Idon'tcareaboutFPH,didn'tevenknowitexisted,butIcareaboutthissiteslowlygoingdownthedrainintoapoliticallycorrect,SJWapproved,safespaceenabled,triggerfree,attackhelicopterkinfriendlyhellhole.It'salwaysfinewhentheycensorstuffyoud


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