Reddit r Fitness Pro-HAES Censorship

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2123 /r/all With all this fat people hate nonsense going on in /r/all.. (self.Fitness) submitted 6 hours ago * by ron_manager ...I was refreshed to come here and see none of it. Now whether that is the mods removing stuff being posted or just the community rising above it, it is nice to see. Every sane person knows that hating people doesn't help them, encouragement and education does. As a former fat person myself I suppose I have a different perspective to some other 'fit' people but let's all remember to help people improve (if that's what they are trying to do) and not ridicule them. And if you are a fat person reading this post who is wondering what the other people in the gym are thinking about you, it is not all this bollocks being posted on this site. I think I can speak on behalf of most of us in this sub when I say that upon seeing a fat person in the gym I think 'fucking good on ya mate' not 'errr you are scum'. We all started somewhere. Edit: Because this post seems to be getting quite popular and will likely be seen by a lot of people, some of whom will not be subscribed to this sub, I am going to post a crudely mocked up progress picture of myself I just made in paint in the hope that it could inspire one or two people to make some positive changes in their life. If I can do it you can. 886 comments share save hide give gold report Top 200 Comments show 500 SORTED BY: [] GOTLY578 undefined points [deleted comment restored by uneddit.com] I think censorship is worse than hate speech. permalink [] JDeegs undefined points [deleted comment restored by uneddit.com] I think most fat people hate comes from preconceived notion that they are lazy and whatnot, which you can't really think about someone who's working their ass off in the gym. I don't know if I'd describe myself as a fat person hater, but I know it pisses me off when people exercise willful formatting help reddiquette Be civil. No hate speech, racism, misogyny, sexism, etc - even if you think they're jokes. save TOP CHICAGOSUBURBS METAREDDITCANCER SACREDGEOMETRY HACKBLOC DEBATEDE PROPER COMMONLAW FINDTHEOTHERS KABBALAH INFOGRAFFITI ALTMED REDDIT.COM CHANNELWATCHERS HIERARCHIES REDPILLBOOKS LEAVERS TREES_IRL EDIT » COMMENTS RELATED CHAIRMANPAO'S CULTURAL REVOLUTION ( 666 ) PREFERENCES LOGOUT

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  • 2123/r/all With all this fat people hate nonsense going on in /r/all.. (self.Fitness)submitted6hoursago*byron_manager

    ...Iwasrefreshedtocomehereandseenoneofit.Nowwhetherthatisthemodsremovingstuffbeingpostedorjustthecommunityrisingaboveit,itisnicetosee.Everysanepersonknowsthathatingpeopledoesn'thelpthem,encouragementandeducationdoes.AsaformerfatpersonmyselfIsupposeIhaveadifferentperspectivetosomeother'fit'peoplebutlet'sallremembertohelppeopleimprove(ifthat'swhattheyaretryingtodo)andnotridiculethem.Andifyouareafatpersonreadingthispostwhoiswonderingwhattheotherpeopleinthegymarethinkingaboutyou,itisnotallthisbollocksbeingpostedonthissite.IthinkIcanspeakonbehalfofmostofusinthissubwhenIsaythatuponseeingafatpersoninthegymIthink'fuckinggoodonyamate'not'errryouarescum'.Weallstartedsomewhere.Edit:Becausethispostseemstobegettingquitepopularandwilllikelybeseenbyalotofpeople,someofwhomwillnotbesubscribedtothissub,IamgoingtopostacrudelymockedupprogresspictureofmyselfIjustmadeinpaintinthehopethatitcouldinspireoneortwopeopletomakesomepositivechangesintheirlife.IfIcandoityoucan.

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    Ithinkcensorshipisworsethanhatespeech.permalink

    [] JDeegs undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ithinkmostfatpeoplehatecomesfrompreconceivednotionthattheyarelazyandwhatnot,whichyoucan'treallythinkaboutsomeonewho'sworkingtheirassoffinthegym.Idon'tknowifI'ddescribemyselfasafatpersonhater,butIknowitpissesmeoffwhenpeopleexercisewillful

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  • ignoranceandsaythey'reperfectlyhealthybecausetheyeatfruitandvegetablesandgoonwalks,despitebeingatleast50+poundsoverweight.Alsohatetheskinnyshamerspermalink

    [] proterozoic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Seriously...I'maskinnyfuck,butallthefatbullyinglatelymakesmesickonapersonallevel.Yeah,it'sapublichealthissue,butobesitydidn'tgetprevalentbecauseoverweightpeopledon'thatethemselvesenough.Thefatbashinghasnothingtodowithpromotinghealth,it'sjustassholeswhohavefoundanewgrouptheycanhateonwhiletryingtofrontsanctimoniousaboutit.permalink

    [] tentimestenis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    I'mnotfatbutIhatenonsensetoo.It'skindofstereotypicaltosaythat.Anyonecanhatenonsense,notjustfatpeople.permalink

    [] Caabha undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Wasn'tthereaverypopularpostherelastweekthatwasabouthowyoucanjudgeapersonspersonalitybytheirweight?Basicallyitwhittleddownto"Ithinkfatpeoplehaveshittypersonalities,andIdon'tcarewhoknowsit!"Thenwhereyouwouldexpectdownvotesandpeoplesaying,nahyouarekindofafuckingdick,yougotagreementand"noit'sokaytothinkthatway."Itfinallygotdeletedbutitwasprettypopularwhileitlasted.permalink

    [] MrRobinGoodfellow undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Idontgiveashitwhatsizesexorracepeopleareinthegym.Ihatethemallequally,iftheyprocrastinateontheequipment:Useitorgetoutthewaysoothersarenotwastingtheretimewaiting15+minuteswhileyoulookatyourphoneorchatontheonlyavailablebenchpressetcetc.Guessitsapetpeeveofmine.permalink

    [] Waksman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Yeah,eversince,Isawagirlgetharrassedintodeletingheraccountaboutmakingapostabouthowshedidn'tenjoyrunningenjoyrunninginaclubwithabunchoffaster/thinnerpeople(seemsreasonabletome,Irunslow,soIlikerunningalone),I'vedetestedthatsub.Shewasdoingtherightthingandchangingherlifeandthosepeoplejustmadeherfeelsoshitty.Fuckeveryonethattakespartinthattypeofthing.permalink

    [] foiltime undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Well,therewasn'tanythingaboutit....untilnow.permalink

    [] Got5BeesForAQuarter undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Maybetheadminsshouldjustworryaboutcleaningupthreadandletgooftheiregos.Iamnotsureifthisisaboutfreedomofspeechorjustpointlessdramaanymore.AndthishasnothingtodowithchangesMs.Paohadmadeforsure.

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    [] SysLordX undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thankyou.permalink

    [] KanadaKid19 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    IfeellikeitstartedoverherethreeweeksagowhentheydecidedtobanlinkstotheBroScienceLifechannelafterthe"dadbod"videocameout,butthemods'announcementthreadaboutthedecisionwasdownvotedtozerosonooneeverreallysawtheannouncementtogetoutraged.I'mstillnotconvincedweallknowthathappened?permalink

    [] atarigod2600 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thesubsthatwerebannedprimarilymockedpeoplewhodefendedbeingoverweightandobeseashealthyandokay.permalink

    [] StalinWasAJerk undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ashittysubredditfullofcuntswasbanned.Theyproceedtoactlikecunts.permalink

    [] Scott555 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Whodoesn'tunderstandthishasnothingtodowiththeparticularsubjectmatterofthesubsthatgotbanned?It'sthefacttheydiditandtheirstatedreasonsfordoingit.Tellsomeonethey'renotpermittedtosayfuck,whathappens?Youhearalotoffuck.permalink

    [] ichosethis undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ihadafriendinhighschoolwhotoldsomeone"you'reonlyfatifyou'renottryingtodosomethingaboutit."SoI'mnotfatanymorebutIwillcontinuetolose.permalink

    [] cherrybomb921 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Beinganassholedoesn'tcureobesity.Ifitdidwewouldn'thavesuchaproblemwithitinMurica.permalink

    [] dorogov undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Hatersarehaters,ifyouwerewhatusedtobeaverage30yearsagoyou'dhear"youneedaburger""jokes"waytoooften.permalink

    [] ShadowTheEdgehog undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Achubbypersonwhoworksoutalotismuchhealthierthanaskinnypersonwhositsontheirassallday.permalink

    [] fischyman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Youwererefreshedtoseenoneofit...soooyoustartedathreadaboutit?permalink

    [] FutureStrongman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Whatissadisjustlike/r/blackpeopletwitteraremostlywhitepeopleactingblack,thepeopleoverat/r/fatpeoplefataremostlikelyoverweightpeoplejustjoiningthemobtotryandeithermakefunofthemselvesorlivesomealternatelifebecausetheyhatetheirs.

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    [] alien01 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    andiftheydon'twanttogetfitorthin,thendon'trudelytalktothemasiftheyhaveto.Dpermalink

    [] KomradeKoala undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Theyneverwantedtohelpfatpeople.They'reahateful,pettybunchofcuntswithalotoffreetime.It'sgoodtoseethepeoplewhoactuallycareaboutfitnessarestillbehavinglikefuckingadults.permalink

    [] Steve_Taylor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Imean,can'twealljustagreethatbeingfatisn'ttheproblem?Stayingfatis.Peoplewhojustifybeingconstantlyoverweightarefuelingthisproblem,leadingtotheacceptanceoffatpermanenceinpeople,ratherthanusingitasastartingmotivationtobetteryourselfandbecomehealthier.Ifyou'rehealthyandvisuallyabit'bigger'thanothersthensure,letpeopleknowthatthey'rebeinganasshole,butdon'tjustifybeingoverweightbecause"weighthasnothingtodowithhealth"becausethat'sthelargestpileofbollucksIcouldeverthinktomakeup.permalink

    [] SortaPro undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    It'snotaboutmakingfunoffatpeople,it'sabouthowPaotookdownthesubredditFatPeopleHate.Sopeoplearedoingtheexactoppositebecauseshetookawaythesitesfreedomofspeech.permalink

    [] KeeperDe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Iactuallydontthinkpeopleinthosesubsreallyhatefatpeople.Theyjusthatetheideaoffatpeoplesayingthattheylovethemselvesandthewaytheylook,andthatitsnotasunhealthyaseveryonethinksandblabla.Ireallycanunderstandthatstandpoint,ifyouarefatyoushouldworkonitandstartgettingfit,itreallyisabigconcernforyourhealthwhenyouaremorbidlyobese,soyoushoulddowhateveritsinyourpowertochangethat.Startingafatacceptancemovementwonthelpthat...Imyselfcanacceptfatpeople,thatsnobigdeal,butwhatIcannotacceptisthosepeopletryingtomakeotherfatpeopleloseinterestinworkingout.Ithinkthatsjustdisgustingandfatacceptanceistheleastthingwhathelpshere.permalink

    [] dubitandum undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Well,sincethethreadisalreadyat500+commentsandnoonewilleverseemine,I'llthrowthisoutthere:IfyouliveinPhillyandyou'retryingtostartgoingtothegymbutareanxiousorunsureaboutwhattodoandafraideveryonewillbejudgingyou(eventhoughtheywon't),youcancomefollowmearoundforafewworkouts.Oryoucanjustsayhiandthenfindmeifyoueverhavequestionsorneedaspot.I'mnotatrainerorsuperjackedoranything,justanaveragedudewhogoestothegymconsistentlyandhasbeenacoupleyears.Icantellyouhowallthemachinesworkandcan(probably)pointoutbadformonmostlifts,althoughI'mbynomeansanexpert.Idoabodybuildingstyleupper/lowersplit.SometimesI'lldo20minutesofHIITonabike.Oh,andIworkoutattheBellevueincentercity.I'mthereMonThursnightsinthesummer,notinPhillyfortheweekendsuntilitgetscoldagain.permalink

    [] comicbookguys undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Fuckoff,karmagrabbingwhorebag.

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    [] Edewede undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Doesn'tseeapostaboutFPHcontroversyandishappy,thenmakesapostaboutFPHcontroversy...permalink

    [] spoetnick undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Iftheyarefat,Iloserespectforthem.Thembeinginthegymdoesn'thelpthat.Onlyiftheyareworkinghardandshowprogressdoesitchange.Gettingfatandbuyingagymmembershipdoesn'treallymakeapersonadmirable.permalink

    [] guyonthissite undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Mockingandshamingsmokersworkedreallywellatreducingsmoking.Idon'tseewhythesamethingcouldn'tbeappliedtofatpeople.Inthevastmajorityofcasestheyarefatfromthechoicestheymake,notfromsomehormonaldysfunctionorsomesuchthing.permalink

    [] NoTifuToday undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    NobodyhatesyouforDOINGSOMETHINGaboutobesity.Theonesgettinghatearetheonesproudoftheirmorbidobesity.permalink

    [] lift_mdfk_lift undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    WhenIseeafatpeopleinthegymthefirstthoughtthatcomestomindishopingtheywillbeconsistentandwillaccomplishtheirgoals.Ithink,damn,Ihope6monthsorayearfromnowyouwillstillbegoingtothegym.permalink

    [] dingledangles undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    I'munfamiliarwithr/fatpeoplehate,butfromthenameofthesub,Iamassumingitwasaplacewhereredditorscouldmakefunoffatpeopleandenjoyalaughattheirexpense.Whileitishardlyanagreeablewaytotreatpeople,censorshipisnotsomethingthatshouldevermakeit'swayontowhatislargelyconsideredabastionofinternetfreedom.Onthetopicoffatshamingasamotivationaltool,itislargelyineffective(althoughclearlyithasworkedforsome).WhatIcannotstandarepeoplelikeTessHolidaywhotryandsuggestthatweightisanonissueandthatit'sperfectlyOKtosettlewhenyouaremorbidlyobese(andImeanMORBIDLY).Youcanarguethatcurvywomencanstillbehealthy,butonelookatTessandyouknowsomethingiswrong.permalink

    [] Anthonyandricciola undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Getyourmacronutrients,hitthegym,losetheweight.Beingfatisjustasdumbassmoking,you'rechoosingtodosomethingthat'sharmingyourbodyandyouknowtheconsequences.permalink

    [] satsujin_akujo undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    I'mwithyou.Idon'tgenerallyjudgeoverweightpeopleoutsideofthegymiftheyareinthegymatleasttheyaredoinggoodworksinthehouseofBrodin.permalink

    [] chismaquina undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

  • Ithinkit'sonlyfairthatIgettoseeyourpenisnowthatyouarealsoabletofindit.permalink

    [] mattalingur undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    "Tothefatassjoggingtheseasideyesterdayafternoon.You,whocanhardlyliftyourlegswhenyoudragyourselfthroughthepavement.You,whodragyourselftheoppositedirectionofalltheotherjoggers.You,thatstopsevery10minutestogetadrinkofwater,andwouldprobablystopmoreoftenifthereweremorebenchesalongthepavement.You,wholookdownyourshoesinshameeverytimesomeonepassesyou.You,whoarebathedinsweatafterittookyoutwentyminutestojogakilometerYouneedtoknowonething:Youareawesome!Foreverysmallstepyoutake,youdragabodyweightthat'sdoubletomine,aweighthangingonyourskeletonandwantingtogetoff.Foreverykilometeryourun,you'repayingoffadebt.adebtformidnightsnacking,dessertorbeer.Thisisn'tyourfirstdayoutrunninganditwon'tbeyourlast.You'vebegunajourneythatwilllastalifetime.Youdon'trunwithmusicinyourears,probablysothere'snodistraction,soyoucanmentallypepyourself.Ifyouwouldn'tlookdownatyourshoeseverytimewemeet,thenyou'dseethatI'mnotjudgingyou.IbelieveinyouandIadmireyou,Youcandothis!"Fatshamingisnotcoolandbreaksdowntheindividual,let'sgivethemapeptalk,cheerthemon.Thefitness"community"shouldbeaboutbetteringyourself,notbelittlingtheonetryingtobecomebetter.ThatiswhatIloveaboutthefitnesscommunity,I'veseenmorbidlyobeseguysgettrainedbynationallyknownfitnesscompetitors,andthere'snodisdain,noarrogance,simplyamutualinterestinlookingbetterthanyesterday.permalink

    [] SyrupyCanuck undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    I'mprettydisgustedbythepeopleoffph.I'mprettyfit,alwayshavebeen.Iwouldneverthinknegativelyaboutsomeonetryingtobetterthemselvesinthegym.Ihavenoissueswithpeoplewhodecidenottostayinshape,it'stheirdecision.Irememberlookingatfphforatotalof5minutesandwantedtopuncheveryonethere.Ilikethissubforthemostpartsinceeveryone'sonthesamepageofgettingintothehealthylifestyle,whichIlove.Gladtoseeothersseethepositivesideofthingshereaswell.permalink

    [] RVCFever undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Inprocessoflosingweight,wasn'treallyhugelyfatoranythingjustputonalittlebit.OneofmymatespulledmeasideandaskedifIwantedtogorunningwithhimbecauseI'dputalittleon.Ihadn'treallyrealisedandhonestlywithouthimsayingthatI'dneverhaveknown.IMO/r/fatpeoplehatewasverytoxicbutitworksforsomepeople.Absolutelynowayitshouldhavebeenbanned.permalink

    [] Troglokhan undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Sureeducationhelpsbutwhodoesn'tknowthatbeingfatisbadforyourhealth?permalink

    [] Kimchidiary undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thatsubwasjustdisgusting.Takingphotosofpeopleandpostingthemonthewebtohurlabuseatshouldbepunishable.permalink

    [] FisherKing22 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

  • JusttoreiterateOPspointaboutfatpeopleinthegym,Ialwaysfeelbadforthem,notbecausethey'refat,butbecausesomanyofthemhavebodylanguagethatlookslikethey'reuncomfortableinthegym.ButI,alongwithmostotherregulargymgoers,aregenuinelyrootingforthem.Ifeelbadbecausesooften,thesepeoplecarrythemselveslikeoutcastswhentherealityisthatthegymisexactlywheretheyshouldbe.Goingforward,I'llmakemoreofanefforttoencourageandmakelargerpeoplefeelwelcomeatthegym.Ireallydon'twanttocomeoffaspatronizing,butIknowhowmuchofadifferencetherightthingsaidattherighttimecanmake.Ifanybodyhasanysuggestions,pleaseletmeknow.permalink

    [] YomamacrazyITB undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Tobebrutallyhonest,althoughtherearesomeratherannoyingextremistson/r/fatpeoplehate,ithinktheyhaveabetterideaandperspectiveonfatpeoplethantheidiotswhosay"beingfatishealthierthanbeingskinny".Acceptingyourselfisgood,butlyingtoyourself?Sayingyouarehealthywhenyoumostcertainlyarenot?Thatsnothowyousolveaproblem,itshowyoucreateabiggerone.BacklastOctober,iwasbrowsingredditandiwasalsonearly300fuckinglbs.Iranintothe/r/fatpeoplehatesubredditand,longstoryshort,iquicklydecidedthatitwastimetochangeandstoplyingtomyself.Ivebeenworkingouteversinceandihavedroppedto230lbs.!Iwouldhaveneverdonethisifineverfoundpeoplewillingtotellmethecoldhardtruth.TLDR:/r/fatpeoplehatehasactuallyhelpedmechangemylifeforthebetter(aswellasthissub)andimreallysadtoseeitgo.permalink

    [] burrito_batman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    WhatIdon'tgetisthatbeforeeveryonebashedfphandbanningitsusersfromalotofsub's.Reddithatedfphandnowthatitsfinallygone,everyoneonredditseemstobeprofphandbashingfatpeople.Idon'tgetitatall...permalink

    [] tonygd undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thanks.Itwasprettygrossandsadtosee/r/allmuchbetteronceIswitchedtomyfront.Everyonebenice.Lifecanbehard.Idon'tknowanyhealthyhappysexyawesomepeoplewhohatefatpeople.There'snothinggoodtocomeofit.Carryon.permalink

    [] s3rp3nt6666 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ifyou'refatagym,Igiveyounothingbutrespectandalltheencouragementintheworld.Anyonewhoistryingtoloseweightshouldn'tbeputdownforit.Everyonehastostartsomewhere.permalink

    [] p0llen86 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    thepurefactthatyouareonthissubredditisshowingthatyouwanttochangesomething.whyshouldihateonsomebodythatisactivelytryingtoimprove?Andbesidesthat,thisisoneofthenicestandmostcivilsubsonwholereddit.permalink

    [] SixtySecondstoEarth undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    IreadFPH.IalsosmileandgivethumbsupsandencouragementtoanyfatpeopleIseeatthegymortryingtopowerwalkorjogorotherwiseactivelytryingtoimprovethemselves.ButIalsogetincrediblyfrustratedwiththeHealthyAtEverySizemovement,andthefatlazyslobsIhavetointeractwithregularlywhothinkthatIshouldchangetoaccommodatethem,insteadofthemmakinganyefforttochange

  • themselves.ReadingFPHwasanicereleasevalveforthatfrustration.permalink

    [] ANUS_CONE undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thanksfortheprops,butit'snotlikewearetheoppositionoffatpeoplein/r/fitness.Thisisn't/r/feminismvs/r/mensrightsoranything.permalink

    [] wakawaka86 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    HailovetheFPHremnantscomingin,downvotingandtalkingouttheirasstodefendthatsubpermalink

    [] AlphaWookie undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Everysanepersonknowsthathatingpeopledoesn'thelpthem,encouragementandeducationdoes.

    Nopethatiswhythenationisfatterthanever.permalink

    [] idkwhatImdoing69 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thestuffgoingoninr/allisaboutredditthrowingfreespeechoutthewindowandfurtherdescendingintowhatadvertiserswantreddittobe.FPHwasverystrictwiththeirpolicieswhenitcametonotpostingpersonalinfoandmessingwithothersubs.Ifsomeofthemstillbrokethoserulesthenyoubanthosepeoplenotthesub.Reddit'sreasoningforbanningitareajokeconsideringtheydidn'ttouchsubswhicharemuchmuchworse.That'sokay.Thiswillprobablybethestartoftheendforredditasweknowitnowthatanythingcanbebannedbecausesomeonegotoffended.Freespeech>yourfuckingfeelings.permalink

    [] cogentat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    I'mfatandwassubscribedtothatsubredditformotivation,andevenhadsomelaughs.Isupportfreespeechandpeople'srighttomakefunofmeoranyoneelse.Redditshouldn'tbeahumorlessplaceandthatiswhatEllenPaoistryingtodo.Iresentthatkindofcensorship.So,yeah,Iappreciatethatyouenjoythesafespace,butnotatthepriceofgaggingothers.permalink

    [] LadyGrooveUK undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thisisace:)permalink

    [] TheTruthizoutThere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Toleranceencouragesfatpeopletobecomfortablewithaconditionthatisunhealthyforthem&aburdenonsociety.Don'tspitonortorturethem,mostdefinitelypushthemtomakepositivechanges.Iftheycan'thandlepeoplemakingcommentsabouttheirweight,itisbecausethey'reavoidingreality&desiretositinthefatsuitthey'veconstructedaroundtheirskeleton.permalink

    [] crochetquilt undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    WhenIseeafatpersoninthegymmythoughtsareeitherohgodwhydidIhavetodothisinfrontofamirror,orI'mnotlookingatthematallI'mlookingthroughthembecauseI'minpainandwanttodie.

  • Eitherway,it'sallgood.permalink

    [] accidentaladult undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Kudos!It'ssodisturbingtoseeallthatgarbageon/r/all.Idon'tknowanyhappy,healthyandfitfolkswhoarenastylikethat.Generallyspeakinghappy,healthyandfitpeoplewanttohelpandsupport,notputdown.WhenIseeabiggergirlatthegym(I'malsoagirl..nocreepyhere),thefirstthingIdoisgiveathumbsupandasmile...IgenuinelyLOVEseeingfolksdoingwhattheyneedtodotobecomehealthyindividuals.Trulydoeswarmmyheart.permalink

    [] lalwaysforgetmyUname undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Asaguywhohasalwayshadnormalweightbutalsoneverexercised,IfoundstartingoutinthegymoneofthehardestthingsIhaveeverdone.IcanonlyimagineitistougherforoverweightpeopleandIalwaysthinkfairfuckingplaymate,goodjob(althoughIneversayit).permalink

    [] kazneus undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    OP,Idefinitelyagreewithyou.Ilostalotofweightmyself.AlltheteasingandbullyingIgotwhenIwasyoungerwasprettydevastating.Ijustwantedtobeleftaloneandlooseweightonmyown.SothewayIunderstanditisthatthewholefatpeoplehatethingstartedasabacklashagainstthebullshitfatpositivemovement.And..wellthat'sactuallysomethingIcangetbehind.Thatshitisfullyretarded.SoI'mprettyonboardwithtargetingpeoplewhoputthemselvesinthepublicasfatpositiveadvocates.Wheretheylostmeiswhentheystartedpostingfuckingpicturesofjustpeople.Justfuckingpeople.Forallyouknowthesepeoplecouldbeactivelyintheprocessofloosingweight.Occasionallythereisalegitimatemedicalconditionatplay(likewhenpeoplethinkverybadlymphodemaisfat.)Sometimestheypostkids.Justfuckingkids.That'stheworst.Ifyouwanttoshamepeoplewhoareopenly,andmoreimportantly,publiclyspreadingmisinformationaboutthehealthrisksofbeingoverweight(especiallywhilebeingoverweightthemselves)that'sonething.Ifyouwanttodragrandompeoplethroughthemudpeoplewhoarejusttryingtolivetheirlivesasprivatelyaspossiblethesedaysthat'ssomethingalltogetherdifferent.permalink

    [] FarplaneDragon undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    AllIknowisthankgodforRESfilters.Makesitpossibletoactuallybrowsereddittoday.permalink

    [] Lordrummxx1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Fatpeopleareaburdenonsociety,themselves,andthenextgenerationthattheyspawn.Theyareawful,useless,andadrainontaxdollars.Infact,alltheyknowhowtodoisbitchandblameothersratherthantakeresponsibilityfortheirownshittylifechoices.I'msorrybutfuckthem.Theydeservetobehated.permalink

    [] lulzingtonthe4th undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    whycan'tweallagreeobesityisamentalillness,justlikebeinganympho,justlikebeingadrugaddict,justlikebeingOCD,andjustlikebeinganorexicpermalink

  • [] lizabFA undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Even/r/fatlogicand/r/fatpeoplestoriescantstandthefolksfrom/r/fatpeoplehateHellafterThehatesubressitwasbanned,fatlogicturnedonprivacybecausetheydidn'twantallthefolksfromfatpeoplehatetofloodtheirsub(orsothemodssaid).permalink

    [] Slack_Irritant undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ronyoudon'tspeakforanyonebutyourself.Rememberthat.Youdon'tdecidewhatmotivatespeopleandwhatdoesn't.Asthetopcommentsaid,thisisafitnessboardthattalksaboutfitnessobjectively.Keepyourdramacrapoutofhere,evenifyouaretryingtostarta'letspatourselvesontheback'circlejerk.permalink

    [] webhero77 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Havingneverhadanyweightissuespreviously,IcanconfirmthethoughtsIhadtowardthebiggerpeopleinthegym.Iwasproudofthemandsomewhatinspired,notinacondescendingway.Simplyinaweofapersonwhodoessomethingtoreachagoal.Nowstrugglingwithmyownweight,Icanunderstandjusthowharditcanbesometimestojustbemotivated.permalink

    [] drucifer0 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ithelpsthatadecentnumberofpeopleonr/fitnessareworkingouttogainweight.Hereweknowthatbeingunderweightisalsoashittyunattractivestateofbeing.permalink

    [] abienz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    There'salotofmisunderstandingwithregardstothefatpeoplehategoingon.Here'swhathappened:

    /r/fatpeoplehatepostedpersonalinformationinitssidebartopromoteattackingindividualsredditmodsclosedthesubbecausethisisagainsttheTermsandConditionsThemobdecidedthiswasbecauseofEllenPao(RedditCEO)andwasacensorshiponfreedomofspeechThemobcreatedothersubredditstopromotehateoffatpeopleandEllenPaomissingthereasonwhy/r/fatpeoplehatewasshutdowninthefirstplace.

    Thisisthecruxofit.it'saloadofmobmentalitythatdoesn'tunderstandwhattheproblemreallywasabout,whichwasassimpleasasubredditnotfollowingthesitestermsandconditions.permalink

    [] twawaytrust undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    fatpeoplehategotmeoffthecouch.fatpeoplestoriesgotmetolose40lbs.Theshamingandallthatdoesn'tworkforEVERYONE,butitdoesworkforsomepeople,andit'sanimportantbit.permalink

    [] gabe614 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    IfanythingwhenIseea"fat"personatthegymitalwaysmotivatesmeevenmore.permalink

    [] Vault109girl undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    IsubmittedapictureofmyselftoseeiftheythoughtIwasskinnyenoughandtheybannedmeforhaving"chubbythighs":(

  • permalink

    [] nMaib1 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    everysanepersonisnotfat,Iwouldn'ttellapersons/he'sfatoutoftheblue,butIwouldthinkitandtheywouldknowit,theyseeiteveryday,allI'msayingis,ifinsultingisdoingsomethingpositivethenitispositive,Iknowit'srude,buttheresultsarelesspeopledyingandsomepeoplecrying.permalink

    [] HerrXRDS 2points

    Somepeoplearesimplynotrightintheirhead.Ihavethis"friend",goestothegymprettyoftenbutheneverpusheshimself,chubbyoverweight,allheevertalksaboutishowfatareotherpeople,whomostofthem,ironically,arelessfatthanhim.Andgodforbidforatrulyoverweightpersontoshowupinthegym,thecommentsIhearfromhimareenraging.Heevenwenttothisgirlwhohad1213%bodyfatandtoldhershegotfatandshelooksugly.Fuckthatguy.permalink

    [] Nuttin_Up undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Yea...tellmeaboutfatacceptanceasyou'resquishingmeoutofmyseatontheplane.permalink

    [] N_Raist 0points

    IthinkIshouldclearsomethingsupregardingthesub:Firstly,therewasnobrigading.Infact,itwasfrownuponandnottolerated.Evenmentioninganothersubwasnotallowed.Nodoxxingeither,thatimgurstaffpicturewasavailablefromthestart.Itwas,doesn'tmatterifyoulikedornot,averystrictsubregardingreddit'srules.(Thingstonote:afatuserthreatenedmultiplemembersofthesubimgutallowsexecutionsimages,butbansfphpictures)Now,aboutthetopicsthesubwasbasedaround.Alotofpeoplegetcarriedawaybythe'hate'inthename,relatingittohatespeechorwhatever.Therealityisthatitwassomekindofmixoffatlogic,justneckbeardthingsandothers:laughingatfatlogic,sharingdelusionalattitudesorcomplainingaboutdisgustingbehavior(takingmultipleseats,haes,etc.).Inbroaderterms,therearecertaintraitsalotoffatpeopleshare,suchaslaziness,andIhavenoproblemsseeinghowsomeonecandislikepeoplebasedontheirattitude.Lastofall,Ineversawfatshamingpeopleactivelytryingtochange.Notasingle'lookatthisfattieonthetreadmill',becausetheyweretryingtoimprovetheirlifeconditions.Supporttothoseactuallyintendingtogethealthywasindeedencouraged.permalink

    [] hiimnotnewhere undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Whatpissesmeoffisthattheonlyproblemswe'reallowedtoconfrontpeopleonwithgenuinecompassionandunderstandingarealcoholismanddrugaddiction.Forotherproblemswe'reallowed,andoftenexpected,tochastisepeoplepublicly.Gotcaughtcheatingonyourwifetosatisfyasexaddictionorkink?You'reaselfishpervertedasshole.Yousmokecigarettes?You'reaselfish,selfdestructiveasshole.You'refat.....wellthere'snothingwrongwiththat,apparently.Abuddyofmineisgoingtodiebecausehe's200poundsoverweight,heworksahighstressdeskjob,andhejustturned40.Theonlythingthatcouldpotentiallysnaphimoutofhisselfpityandacceptancerutwouldbeanoldfashionedinterventionwithfriendsandfamily,butdoingthatforsomeone'sweightproblemisunheardof,andlikelyunaccepted.It'sfuckingastoundingtomethatbroachingthetopicofsomeoneeatingthemselvestodeathissomehowtaboo.WhenIwasinthemilitaryIhadgottenupto270pounds.I'm6'4",soIwasn'tacompleterolypoly,butIwasbeing

  • threatenedwithdischargeifIdidn'tdroptheweight,andtheywereNOTkindandunderstandingaboutit.Iwasshitoneverysingledaybymysuperiors.Atworst,myphysicalappearanceintheciviliansectorwouldhavebeenconsidered'husky',butinthemilitaryIwasliterallycalledabagofshit.Andafatbody.Anddisgusting.Andafterawhile,Istartedtofeeldisgustedwithmyself.Andyouknowwhat?Itfuckingworked.Ilost45poundsintwomonths,anditwasthesimplestprogramyoucanimagine.Icutmyintaketoastrict1500caloriesaday,consistingmainlyofchicken/tuna/eggs,fruits/veggies,yogurt,andproteinshakes.Ialsodidonehourofhighintensityellipticalinthemorning,andanotherhourintheevening,andIdidpushupstomaintainmystrengthwithoutgainingbulk.AfteronlytwomonthsIwasleanandmean,anditwassuchasimpleprogramtostickwith.I'mnotsurewhereI'mgoingwiththisatthispoint,butyeah,beingfatreallyisdisgustingandunnecessary,andit'sEASILYFUCKINGFIXABLE,butit'sstillconsidereduncouthtotellpeoplethisin2015,andthat'sagenuinetragedy.permalink

    [] Purphect 1point

    Youmadeagreatpointalotofpeopleshouldknow.Everyonewhogoestothegymstartedsomewhere.Whetheryou'refatorscrawny.Youhavetostartfrombeginningandworkyourwaytowhereyouwanttobe.Itcanbehard,buttrynottogettoonervousaboutwhateveryoneelseisthinking.(They'reprobablyprettyzonedinontheirownworkoutanyways)permalink

    [] ilyuhman 1point

    I'vebeenreallytryingtoloseweightfor3years.Ihadabout20kgextra,managedtocut5or7ofitatbest.Afterthat,Istoppedtryingandjustlostitin3month.NowI'mwithinnormalbmiandkeeplosing0,51kiloperweekonaverage,mygoalisbmiof22andgettingfit.WhenIstartedit,/r/fitnesshelpedmealot.Sodid/r/keto.Butmytruesourcesofcontinuingmotivationwerefphandfatlogic.Fphhadzerointentmotivatingpeople,butitdiditfantasticallyformanyotherslikeme.ItisthankstofphnowIknow,thatIwillneverbeoverweightagain,Ijustcan'tletithappen.Ioftenseepeoplesayingthatfphisjustasmallbunchofhatefuljerks,butafterithit150ksubsitbecameprettyclearit'snotjustacommunity,it'speopleyouseeeveryday.Someofthemareyourcoworkers,relatives,maybeevenfriends.Fphisyourgrumpyuncle,thattellsyoutheuglytruth,butyouknowthathelovesyousomewheredeepinside.Iguessmypointisthatweallarequitedifferent.Someneedcarrot,someneedstick.Thereprobablywasacompromiseforthoseoffendedbutalas.ItchangedmylifeinagreatwayandIwillalwaysbethankfulforthat.permalink

    [] mynameisdana 1point

    Yeahithankyoumatebutididn'thavethatexperienceioncewhilejoggingfor30secondsandwalkingforaminuteandsohadagroupofpeopledrivepastmeafewscreaming'fuckyoustopeatingfastfood'orfatfuckerdon'tevenbother'andspittingandworse.Peoplecanbesocruelevenwhentryingtolosebabyweightoranyweight.Ihavejustcamehereandhadsomehorriblepeoplemessagemethingslike'juststopliving'and'noonecaresaboutyou'ithoughtthiswassave.Imnotontofacebookandallthatijustwantedalittle.bitofsupport.80%ofredditaregreatbutitreallyhurtswhenastrangermessagesyoutodiecauseyouneedadviceonhowtojugglework,kidsandyourweight.Myproblemismainlyidonteatcauseimbusythenihavetoastatmidnight.Haven'thadfastfood(bartheoddsubway)inyearscantaffordit.Idontknowwhypeoplemessagemethismaybeishouldjustbealurkerandnotamember:ljustlovecommentingonsomeofthefantasticthingsisee.permalink

    [] Philanthropiss 1point[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

  • Everysanepersonalsoknowsthatsilencingsomeonewhohaspassionisonlygoingtomakethemlouder.Fatpeoplehatehadapassionforhatingfatpeople.Youcannotsilencethat.permalink

    [] beardface84 1point

    OP,canIaskhowlongittooktogetthoseresults?I'minasimilarshapetohowyouwere,andI'vejuststartedatthegym.Anytips(barringtheobviouseatclean,excerciseetc)?permalink

    [] miserablestoic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    It'sallabunchofwank!I'mashitlordandIfrequentedfphalot.NowIgotothegym6timesaweek,andIdon'tjudgeanyoneatthegym.It'soutsideofthegymthatmyhatredstarts,butI'mnotgonnagetintothathere.Whatreallyisjustshitisthatredditisbanningoursubreddits,whathappenedtofreedomofspeech?Therearesomerightfuckinghorrendoussubsonreddit,likedeadchildrenpicsorwhatever,theygettostay,yetifyoumakefunofafatperson,yougetbanned.That'snotwhatIthoughtredditwasabout,andI'mseriouslyconsideringleaving,fphwastheonlysubIvisited.permalink

    [] TooktheBluePill 4points

    Indeed.Iloveseeingfatpeopleinthegym.Thebestiswhenyoukeepseeingthesamefatpersonoverandoveragainandcanwatchthemtransform.Thereisaguyinmygymwhowentfromprettyobese,torelativelystackedinI'dguessayearorso.Itwasawesometowatch.permalink

    [] lnclincoln undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Itsnotpeoplejusthatingonfatpeople.Itsobesepeoplewhoaretryingtopushthattheirlifestyleishealthy.Itslikeanalcoholictryingtosayheisfinethewayheis.Theyarebothunhealthylifestylesandshouldnotbeviewedasnormal.Ifsomeoneistryingtochangetheirlifeforthebetterandishatedonthenthatisdisgusting.Butitiscorrecttocalloutpeoplewhentryingtopushtheirunhealthylifestyleasifitisnormaltobe300+poundsordrinkingabottleeverything.It'snot"beautiful,"itsdownrightgoingtokillthatperson.permalink

    [] DocBalls 1point

    Wow,I'mfatandIneverrealizedpeoplehateme,Iwasjustlivingmylifehappy.Afterreadingallthishate,I'vedecidedtoonlygooutsidewhenrequired,otherwiseIwillmostlybecomeaninsideperson.permalink

    [] easyfeel 0points

    Forgetthoselosersin/r/fitpeoplehatepermalink

    [] alientic 1point

    Thankyouforsayingthat.I'vebeenworkingonlosingweightformanyyears,butIwasneverabletoactuallygetthewillpowertodoituntilIwasoutofahatefulenvironmentandgotintoasupportingone(andnowI'velostabout60lbs).Hatingdoeshelpsomepeople,butforalotofpeople,italsomakesitworse,andtheproblemisyoudon'tknowwhoisgoingtobeaffectedwhatway.Idon'tcomeonthissubthatoften,butit'sgoodtoseeI'mstillwelcomehere,evenifIstillhaveweightIneedtolose:)permalink

  • [] wagstagsthird 1points

    I'mgoingtoplaydevil'sadvocatehere.I'mprettysureanypersononFPHwouldlovetoseefatpeopleinthegym.Itwouldbehypocriticaltoshameobesepeopleandthenshamethemforattemptingtobetterthemselves.Everycommentoneverypostsmockstheirapparentlackofeffortatlosingweight,sowhywouldtheyhateontheminthegymfortryingtofixtheproblem?I'mfairlycertainwehaveagoodnumberofshitlordsonthissub,butwhydownthemin/r/fitness?Thisistheendgame,wehavetobesupportiveherebecausethisiswheretheywouldcometostart.FPHmayhaveonlybroughtafewpeoplehere,butwearetheoneswhoencouragethemtokeepgoingandperseverethroughthecriticism.permalink

    [] VeryMagical 9points

    I'vemadepoorchoicesinmylifeandithasleadtomebeingoverweight.ButIacknowledgethatandIamtryingtoreversethose.Constantlyseeingpeoplesayingsomeonelikemeis"disgusting"orwhateverelsetheysayisnotgoingtomakemechange.Itmakesmesadandthat'salltheywanted.Tobully.But"fat"doesnotdefinewhoIam.Iwillbehealthyagainonedayanditwillbethankstothepeoplewhoofferedsupport,notcriticism.permalink

    [] KipzOfTheMud undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Same.Alotoftheseassholestrytojustifyitwith"we'rejustmotivatingthem"or"peoplelearndifferently"butweallknowtheonlyreasonwastojudgepeopleandmakethemsad.I'mgladit'sgone.permalink

    [] thatfishscale undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    reportedforbeingafaggotpermalink

    [] LikeAndSubscribeJK 4points

    notbeingpostedpostsit

    Manyousuuurearedumb:ppermalink

    [] kiproping 2points

    Idon'tthinkitsaboutfatpeoplehateperse,itsjustpeoplelashingoutatchairmanPao.permalink

    [] 3ntl3r 16points

    historyindicatesthatshaming&dehumanizingpeopleleadstohorridresults.ifhavingaforumwherespoutingyournarrowmindedvenomissodamnimportantbuild&hostyourowndamnforum.wishingyouallhealth,peace&wellnesspermalink

    [] myotherusernamebroke 2points

    Agreedespeciallywhenthosepeoplearerunningharder,sweatingmore,andjustputtinginmoreworkthanIdoorhavebeen.Itismotivationaltoseelargerpeopledecidingtomakeachange.Determinationtomakeachangeisalwaysinspiring,especiallywhenyoucanseeitandtheresults.permalink

    [] Moldyman 3points

  • It'snotabouthatingfatpeople.It'saboutfreespeech.Simpleasthat.permalink

    [] MackMizzo 1point[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ithoughtthemainpointofcontentionwasthecensorshipissue?"Wheredoesitend"etc.permalink

    [] Trickster174 5points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Goodlord,alotofpeoplehereseemtobeconfusing"hate"with"toughbutdirectlove/care."Itwasn'thatewhenmydadpulledmeaside4yearsagoandsaid"Son,you'vereallyputonalotofweight,andwiththehealthissuesinourfamilyitwouldreallybebeneficialifyouslimmeddown.Youwouldfeelandlookmuchbetter,too."Andhewasright.Norwasithatewhenmybestfriend,aroundthesametimetoldme"Heydude,I'mjustgoingtobebluntwithyou:Iamgettingworriedaboutyourhealth.You'veputonalotofweightinashorttime."Butthatwasn'thate,thatwasmydadandmyfriendbeingdirectandupfrontwithme.Hateisliterallyinthenameof"FatPeopleHate."Peopleinthatplacedon'tpointoutoverweight/obesepeoplefromaplaceofloveandcaring,theypointitoutfromaplaceofpettinessandanger.Internetstrangerspointingitoutsomeone'ssizemayshameafewofthemtothepointofslimmingdown,butIdon'tthinkthemethodisworththeresults.We,asasociety,needabetterwayoftellingpeopletotakemorecareofthemselvesthatisn'tcoddlingbutdoesn'tinvolvehatredandbulling.Believeitornotthereisamoredirectway,asmydadandfriendprovedtome4yearsago.And,70poundslater,itworked.permalink

    [] DonPoppito666 3points

    ...Iwasrefreshedtocomehereandseenoneofit.

    Soyoumadeapostaboutit?permalink

    [] TerdSandwich undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Hamplanetplsgopermalink

    [] JoeyWah 2points

    IguaranteeyouthatalmostnoFPHposterhasseentheinsideofagym.permalink

    [] SpamFilterHatesMe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Really?Howdoyouguaranteethis?Orjusttalkingoutofyourass?permalink

    [] xi_mezmerize_ix undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    r/fatpeopleshamewouldbeagreatalternativepermalink

    [] theprancingpuppy 1point

    Ithinkit'sgoodtobehonest,butofcourseit'slowtoridiculepeopleortohateagroupofpeople.However,IthinkitgoesbothwaysandIdon'tthinkweshouldmakeassumptionsthat"peoplewhogoonr/fatpeoplehatehavelowselfesteem"orwhatever.Peoplearejustdicks.Inalotofplaces,it'sacceptabletomakerudejokesaboutfatpeople.Nowadays,insome

  • placesit'sokaytohateonnormalorsmallersizedpeople.Sothebasicgististhatpeoplewhoarecuntstowardsotherpeopleshouldbeignoredortoldtoleaveitalone.Theydon'twanttohelpyou,theywanttohurtyou.Peoplewhoarehonestwithyouandtrytohelp,wellsometimesthathelpisuncalledforbutotherwise,they'regood.Weshouldn'tbuildupawallaroundfatpeoplesotheywillnotfeelthreatenedeither(la"don'tcallmeoverweight,that'sakintobeingaracist"),weshouldjusttreateachothernicelywhichIalsoreallylikeaboutthefitnesscommunities.Mostpeoplewillonlyencourageyouinyourquesttobecomehealthy,nomatterwhoyouare,andtheoneswhohategettoldtostopit.permalink

    [] trankwiZ 8points

    Fatpeoplehateisnotdirectedtofatpeopletryingtogetfit,itsdirectedtothefatpeoplewhoarelazyandeatalldayandthinkitsfinetodoso.permalink

    [] nobody2000 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Bullshit.Ifafatpersonwearinggymclotheswaspostedonthere,andsomeonesaid"Itlookslikethey'retryingtoloseweight"theywouldbemetwithabanandamessage:"NoSympathy."Therewasnonobleintention.Itwasalljusthating.There'sahugeobesityepidemiccostingtheUShealthcareindustry~$200Billiondollars.Noonelikedtodiscussitbecauseitwasn'tsexyenoughtoearnKarma.WhattheyDIDliketorepostwastheobesityversionofthewelfarequeenfalacythatdumbbirdintheUKwhodidn'twanttogetbariatricsurgerybecauseshewantedtokeepherwelfarebenefits.Superrarecase,butitwarrantedaplethoraofvotes.permalink

    [] Kivla 7points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    No,youarewrong.FPHwouldharassandbullyfatpeoplenomatterwhattheyweredoing.90%ofthedamnpicsfromthatsubwerejusttakenoffsomebody'sFacebookandgivennocontext.Whyiseveryonesayingthatthesubredditwasfightingthefatacceptancemovementnow?It'slikeredditorsaretryingtorewritehistorysothatthebanfitstheirnarrativeof"innocentlittlesubredditdestroyedbyevilsjwchairmanPAO!!1*CENSOSHIPZ***".That'snotwhathappened.Thesubredditharassedpeopleandbrigadedothersubredditsandthat'swhyitwasbanned.permalink

    [] PluckyWren 3points

    Apersonaltrainertoldmetherearetwokindsofpeopleinagym.Thoseinshapeandstayinginshapeandthosegettinginshape.permalink

    [] kerrybaumann undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    AssomeonewhowassadtoseeFPHgo,IwillsaythatIwasneverasubscribertothesub,however,Ididvisititoften.Ididnotliketheposts"Heylookatthisfatty!"andjustarandompictureofsomefatperson.ButIdidenjoytheHAESbanter.Ihavefatfriends,anddonothatefatpeopleingeneral,butIdohateHAES,andIfuckingLOATHEwhenpeopletrytogetpityforbeingfat.

    Everysanepersonknowsthathatingpeopledoesn'thelpthem,encouragementandeducationdoes.

  • Justlikeanysportsteampeoplelearndifferently.Thecoachknowswhethertoinstructacertainplayerwhatthey'redoingwrong,ortoriphimanewasshole.Foreverycommentsayingthisisthewrongwaytoteachpeople,thereisalwaysanothersayingthattheywereaformerfattyandthatthethreadinspiredthem.permalink

    [] Spacemanseeds undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    youtellingfatpeopletogotothegymtriggersthempermalink

    [] cfprimalgamer 0points

    Iwasfat,handholdingdidn'tworkme,ifpeoplehadbeenmorehonestabouttheirassessmentsonmeIwouldhavemadeachangesooner.Butpostpeopledon'twanttotakeaccountabilityoftheirlifeandratherliveinabubblewerebeingFatisokaslongastheyarehappy.permalink

    [] CaterpillarShrimp undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    R/fatpeoplehate.ThesubthatRedditneeds,notthatitdeserves.permalink

    [] n0b0d1 1point[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    So...readingthisthreadandgettingafeelforwhatthiscommunityisabout,doanyofyouhaveanyadviceforpeoplewhosufferfromactualhormonaldisorders(thyroiddisordersandpolycysticovariansyndromearebothINCREDIBLYCOMMON).Iam"skinnyfat",juststartingworkingout,myself.Imovedtoanotherpartofthecountry,andwhileIammorethanawareoftheeffectsofthe"Southerndiet",Ihavemetmorethanafewpeoplewhoaskedmefortips,butcouldnotdietorexercisethemselvesthin,becauseofthesedisorders(Iblamesomeprescribedpregnancymedications,andalsogenerational,recreationaldruguse).Theydefinitelyarenotjustmakingexcuses,becauseIhaveseentheirdiets,lotsofcardio,etc.permalink

    [] kinkakinka 2points

    Withhormoneimbalancesit'sstillpossibletoloseweight,it'sjustharder.Oftheyareonthepropermedicationfortheirillnessandwanttogetthin,theonlyrealansweristoworkharderandeatless.Itsucks,butthat'sthereality!Also,itisveryeasytogoovercaloriesbyeatingthingsthat"don'tcount"likethatcookiefromtheplateyourcoworkerleftinthelunchroom,orthelateafternoonsnackyouhadandforgotabout.That'smyhugedownfall.I'mphysicallyactive5daysaweek(running,yoga,dodgeball,softball,andaweightsclass)andeatingisbyfarthebiggestthingthatkeepsmechubbierthanI'dliketobe.permalink

    [] throthisway 9points

    'I'mgladnoonestalkingaboutFPHon/r/fit!''IshouldprobablytalkaboutFPHon/r/fit'permalink

    [] thebrainypole undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    NoonefromFPHwouldhateonafattyactivelytryingtoloseweight.Onlythosethathaveamindsetof"it'sokaytobefatandencourageotherstobefatandIhavegenetics"ItfeelslikeIwantedtosaymorebutIdon'thaveanythingtoaddreallypermalink

  • [] sinndogg2 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    NoonefromFPHwouldhateonafattyactivelytryingtoloseweight.

    ExceptforthefactthatthereAREcaseswherethishappened.permalink

    [] ron_manager undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    NoonefromFPHwouldhateonafattyactivelytryingtoloseweight

    Absolutely100%wrong,theywereactivelyspamming/r/progresspicswithabuse,asubentirelydedicatedtofatpeopletryingtoloseweight.permalink

    [] _weed 8points

    imaginespendingtimeinacommunitycompletelydedicatedtohatingonanythingplentyofthingsareworthyofskepticismand/orcriticismbutwhenyourcommunityormovementselfdescribesas'hate'thenyouneedtosincerelyreevaluatewhatyourgoalsareandhowyou'rehopingtoaccomplishthem.alsoyouhavenorightto'freespeech'onaaprivatecompany'sserverlmaopermalink

    [] kinkakinka 4points

    Ithinkthebiggestissueisthatmostofthemembersprobablyhaveabitofinternalizedhate.Theyhavetohateonothers,foranyreason,tomakethemselvesfeelbetter.Iusedtobereallybadforthatmyselfbutinrecentyearshavebecomeahappier,andmuchlessangryperson.permalink

    [] Aethe 60points

    Becausethefitnesssubislockedtoselfposts.AndithasbeenknownforalongtimethatthetypicalFPHuserisn'tfitatall,andprobablynotallthathealthyincomparisontothosetheyimposejudgementon.There'sbasicallynothingforthemhere.Idon'treallywanttoelaborateherebecauseitisn'tfitnessrelated,butwhatyou'reseeingonthefrontpagerightnowisn'tjustaboutoverweightorobesepeople.Therearealotofpeopleusingthissitewhobelievehatespeechisgenuinelyokayanddeservestobeprotected.Itisnot,anditdoesnot.Hatespeechisneverokay.Partofbecomingaphysicallyfitindividualinvolvesacertainamountofmentalfitness.Veryfewofusgotintofitnessandmagicallyhadthedisciplineofanathleteorlifelongbodybuilder.Maintainingahealthymindisasimportantasmaintainingahealthybody.Lookatr/allrightnow,orlikelyatanypointtoday,andaskyourselvesifthat'sthekindofbehaviorthatpromotesahealthymind.Itisn't.Notbyalongshot.permalink

    [] cherrybomb921 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Nailmeethammer.Mentalhealthisjustasimportantasphysicalhealth.AnyonethatwouldspendtimeinaplacelikeFPHhaspoormentalhealth,period.permalink

    [] AL_DENTE_OR_NOTHING undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    FPHpeopleareunhealthymentallyandmanyofthemaresmokersanddon'texercise.Hypocrisyintheformofanger.permalink

    [] N_Raist 3points

  • ThetypicalFPHuserisverified,whichmeansbeingfitor,atleast,inahealthyweight.permalink

    [] thisismy20 2points

    Censorshiponredditcanquicklybecomeaslipperyslope.Theissuewasthat/r/fatpeoplehateandthoseothersubredditswerereportedforoffensivecontentandattackingothersubreddits.Theadminsbecameawareofthisbygatheringreportsfromotherusers.Whathappenswhensomeonegetsreallyoffendedherein/r/fitnessandspamreportsthesubredditforoffensivecontentandusersattackingusers?Theissueisnotdefendinghatespeech,itsdefendingFREESPEECH.Yougottatakethebadwiththegoodandthatswhatfreespeechreallyis.Youwanttheabilitytocomplainaboutthemodsoradmins?Wellthatsyourrighttodoso,butinacensoredcommunity,youmightnothavethatrightanymore.Again,notdefending/r/fatpeoplehatebutwhenthissitestartsslidingdownthatslopeitwillquicklygofromcleaningupthecanceroussubreddits,tocleaningoutanyandalloffensivecontentinanyshapeorform.permalink

    [] Aethe 3points

    Again,notdefending/r/fatpeoplehatebutwhenthissitestartsslidingdownthatslopeitwillquicklygofromcleaningupthecanceroussubreddits,tocleaningoutanyandalloffensivecontentinanyshapeorform.

    Asitshould.Theideaofanabsolutefreespeechzoneisrubbish.Theideareceiveszerotractioninreality,andyettheoverwhelmingmajorityofpeopleonthisplanetdonotliveinapolicestate,whichmeansthingsevenoutatsomepoint.Ithinkit'shighpastthepointwherewetakethatrisk.We'vebeendoingtheoppositeforyears,andhereweare.Youcan'tgointoathreadonr/videos,r/worldnews,r/news,r/politics,orr/picsandbeconfidentyouwon'treadsomehorriblyvilecommentaboutsomething.Isthatreallythesiteyouwanttobookmark?I'mprettysickofit.permalink

    [] thisismy20 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Soyouareokwiththeideathatr/fitnesscouldbeoneofthosebannedsubredditsdowntheline?Ortheideathatifyoudisagreewithapopularopinionyouyourselfcouldbebanned?WhenisaythisImeanwhenwe'vecometothepointthatifyoutellsomeonethatbeing200lbsoverweightisnothealthyyouwouldbeoffendingthem,givingthemreasontoreportandcensoryou.Becausethat'snotthesiteIwanttobookmark.Idon'tagreewithwhattheoffenderssaybutIdamnsuresupporttheirrighttosayit.permalink

    [] Aethe undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Soyouareokwiththeideathatr/fitnesscouldbeoneofthosebannedsubredditsdowntheline?

    Yeah,youacceptthegoodwiththebad,eveninscenariosofoverthyperbole.Idon'tknowwhythere'sthisillusionthatit'ssomehowokaytoactawfulonline.Theinternetisessentiallyamirroroftherealworldnow,andhasbeenforatleastfiveyears,butmorelikelyfifteen.Themostlyhomogeneoussecretclubinternetofthe90'sisgone.TensofmillionsofpeopleuseRedditalone,andbillionsofpeopleareonlineworldwide.Youhaveaspectrumofpeopleandculturesandopinionstheworldoveritisn'treallyanydifferentfrombeinginacitycenter.Exceptrealityisgroundedinlaws.Iknowit'sfuntopretendthattheinternetisstillthewildwest,butitisn't.Actionshaveconsequences.Allactions.That'swhyyou'rereadingmorearticlesaboutpeoplegettingintroublewiththelawfortheiractionsonline.AlotofpeoplewantedtheideaofReddit'sutopiaoffreespeechtosucceed,butitclearly

  • hasn'tbecausehatefulandvindictivepeoplehavetakenadvantageofabnormallylaxadministrativelawstousethissiteasasafehavenfortheircommunities.Ifyou'regoingtoharasspeople,abusepeople,andbeoverallawfultopeople,thenyou'regoingtofaceconsequences.Inyourworld,thismightbeaslipperyslopefornonthreateningsubstobebanned,butintherealworldthatdoesn'thappenbecauser/fitnessisn'tfilledwithawfulactingpeople.Itwouldtakeseriouscommunityrestructuringforthattohappen,thelikesofwhichisn'tgoingtohappenbecauser/fitnesshasalreadytakentremendousstepstowardscreatinganacceptingenvironment.permalink

    [] GracefulxArcher 2points

    What'sgoingonwith/r/allisn'twhatfatpeoplehatewasthough.Now,it'smostlyjustaggressiontowardstheadmins.Alotofpeoplemistakefatpeoplehateforaplacewherefatpeopleshouldgotoloseweight.It'snot.It'saplaceforpeoplewhoareannoyedatsomeonewhowasmorbidlyobese,becausetheirobesityinconveniencedthemorothers.Itparticularlyhatesparentsofobesechildren,forexample.Thissubisaboutgettingfit.Peoplecomeheretochangetheirlifestyle.Peoplewenttofatpeoplehatetorant.Especiallysince/r/offmychestbannedfatpeoplehatestyleposts.Theydidn'tgotheretogetfit.permalink

    [] N_Raist 3points

    This.IlikehavingaplacewhereIcancomplainabouycertainpeopleIfinddisgustingorirritatesme,justlikepeopleherecomplainabouttheguydoingcurlsinthesquatrack.Evenifit'snotwhenyouneedtodosquats,youfindthatbehaviorwrong.permalink

    [] GracefulxArcher 4points

    What'smore,hatespeechcanonlybedoneagainstsomeonewhohasaprotectedstatus.Thosecallingithatespeechareadmittingthatbeingfatisaprotectedstatus...Whichisjustabsurd.permalink

    [] RadioactiveCashew undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Hatespeechisjustthat.Hatefulspeech.Itcanbeaboutliterallyanyone,andthere'sneveranyreasontospewhatredatsomeoneelse.Idon'tgetwhysomanypeoplearesoupsetaboutredditsaying"nomoreharassment".Itshouldn'thavetobesaid.permalink

    [] GracefulxArcher undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Peoplehateforplentyofgoodreasons.Butwhetherornotyouthinkhatredisagoodemotionshouldn'tdictatewhetherornotpeopleshouldbeallowedtofeelit.Iagreewithyouthathatredisabadthing,butit'sanaturalemotionandpretendingitdoesn'texististheworstthingyoucando.FromWikipedia

    Inlaw,hatespeechisanyspeech,gestureorconduct,writing,ordisplaywhichisforbiddenbecauseitmayinciteviolenceorprejudicialactionagainstorbyaprotectedindividualorgroup,orbecauseitdisparagesorintimidatesaprotectedindividualorgroup.

    Hatefulspeech=/=hatespeech.Confusingthetwoiscommon,butnotgroundsforsilencinghundredsofthousandsofindividuals.permalink

    [] therealjohnfreeman 1points

  • Ithinkthere'sanumberofpeopleupsetthattherulesarebeingappliedselectively,thatsomehatespeechisokayifit'sagainstapprovedtargets.permalink

    [] enrichmentonly undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Itwasn'tbannedbecauseofhatespeech.Itwasbannedbecauseitaggressivelyharassedindividuals.Iwasthevictimofsuchharassmentaboutsixweeksago.Iftheother'bad'subspeoplecalledoutconstantlyPM'dpeopleencouragingthemtocommitsuicide,thentheywouldlikelybebannedtoo.permalink

    [] Aethe 7points

    Look,thisreallydoesn'tbelonginfittit,butwhat'shappeningnowshouldhavehappenedoverfiveyearsagoatleast,ifnotwhencommentswereoriginallyintroducedaspartofReddit.Ihopetheadminskeepgoing,butthere'stoomuchforanysmallteamofadministrationtotakedown.Pastandpresentcaretakersofthissitehave,whetherornotthey'verealizedit,builttheperfectgroundsformisguided,hateful,andvehementspeechtofester.LikeIsaid,itisn'thealthy.Hating,gettingangry,wishingharm,andpropagatingideasoffalseclaimsofsuperiorityarenothowyoumaintainahealthyandopenmind.Andyeah,youcanmakesomeverycynicalinferencesoffofthatstatement,butI'llchoosenotto.permalink

    [] therealjohnfreeman undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Hatespeechisn'tmymodusoperandieither,beforeyoujumptoconclusions.Reddit,underAlexisatleast,triedandsucceededinbuildingareputationasaplacethatallowednearlyunfetteredspeech,evenoffensive,hatefulspeech,becausetheybelieveditresultedinmoregoodthanharm.NowthatreputationhasbeenconsistentlyunderminedatleastsinceEllenPaotookover.Ithinkthere'sreasonablefrustrationoverthat.permalink

    [] kinkakinka 8points

    This.Youare100%right.permalink

    [] CrankRED 3points

    ichangedmyredditbookmarkfrom/allto/fronttillthisblowsover.permalink

    [] jredlinger2003 2points

    Everyonedeservesachancetopushthemselves.Youseeaproblemandyouwanttofixit.Thatishumanshadetreeengineering.Iapplaudfattiesinthegymbctheyareattemptingtomakeitbetteranddifferentforthemselves.Iwonderhowtomotivatepeopletoeatrightandworkoutwhenthecurrentsystemmakesitsoconvenientandcheaptoeatawfullyandbingewatchseasonsoftvshows.permalink

    [] nuetrino 3points

    There'scurrentlytrollsplaguingReddit.permalink

  • [] SteakMarsala 3points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thatsubwasmoreabouttheoverweightpeoplewhodon'trealizethat"fatacceptance"isn'taboutsexappeal,butaboutpromotingamedicaldiseaseinepidemic.Thetypesofpeoplewhoblametheworldinsteadoftakingaction.150kmembers,asiwasone,nevertrolledinothersubs.Idorecall"fatacceptance"trollsplaythesamegameinthatsub.thedifferenceisonlyonesidecomplained,thesidethatplaceblame.havingsaidthat,fatshamingdoesn'tupsetpeoplewhotrulywatchtheirweightorhaveundergonetrainingforagoodportionoftheirlives,especiallyincollegesports.tellmeyouhaven'tgonetothegymwhenyoudidn't"feel"likeit?tellmeyouhaven'tcursedyourselfoutatonepointoranotherfinishingsetsorrunningthatlastmile?itdoesn'tbotherme,itremindsmetogetbackontracknomatterhowmuchselfmasochismihavetoloathemyselfwith.itonlypissesoffthosewho,again,blametheworldfortheirlackofdisciplineandsacrifice,andwonderwhytheirresultsareastheyare.soasanathleticindividual,ihavetobecarefulofwhatisayinfrontofthosewhowillripmyheadoff,meanwhileitisnormalintheactiveworld.it'ssoobvioushownastythatparticularattitudeis.ifyoureadintothatsubmore,youwouldhaverealizingthatthemajoritywerefrustratedwiththehealthexcusespeopleselfdiagnosethemselveswith,manyofwhichwerecausedbytheobesity.taxpayersfoottheirmedicalanddisabilitybills.thesatirewasextremeattimes,butthebottomlineformanywasthatitisanobviouspublichealthissue.theapproachwaspoliticallyincorrectmanytimesaswell.afewrottenapplesgotitbannedwhichisstupidbecauseitwasn'tonesidedprovocation,andnoteveryonecaredtoarguebetweeneachother.trollsdon'tbothermeandsadly,theyaregivenpowerbythevulnerable.permalink

    [] tototiti42 0points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Peopleenjoybeingcruel,thatsthesadtruth.Theyalsoenjoybeingnice,iguessitsthatyingyangthing...permalink

    [] Yonzy 0points

    Idon'tthinkmostoftheoutrageisbecausepeoplelosttheirplacetohateonfatpeopleit'smostlybecausepeoplefeelthisisahamfistedmovetocurtailwhatyoucanandcannotsayonreddit.Inalotofpeople'smindsredditusedtobeaplatformwhereallvoiceswereheardandthatwaspartoftheappeal.Thisrecentsafespacepolicyisworrisome.IfIdon'tlikeasubredditIdon'tsubscribetoit.permalink

    [] AndG3o 1point

    Iabsolutelyagree,however,Ithinkthatcensoringpeopleiswrongnomatterwhattheysay.Iwillsupportfreespeechevenifthepersonistalkingbullshit.permalink

    [] TheFryingDutchman 11points

    Thankyou.Ifinditsickeningthatthepeoplewhoareflooding/r/allarepretendingthatthe'fatpeoplehate'subanditsprogenyareabouteducationandhelpingpeople.No,theylovekickingpeoplewhenthey'redown.Thisistheonlineversionoftormentingthatfat/nerdy/ugly/weirdkidinmiddleschool.permalink

  • [] zppa 56points

    It'snotafatpersoninthegym,it'saperson.Respectgoesalongwaypermalink

    [] FuckFemenazi undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Butwhentheystartimposingthatobesityishealthyitsdifferentright?itsthesameasshamingsomeonethatisadvocatingheroineusepermalink

    [] broner4brady 4points

    Ithinkthatingeneralfatpeoplehatewasaboutpeoplebeingupsetabouthealthateverysizeasaculturaltrend.Thesepeoplehadnoproperoutlettofindasolutiontothisproblemandsotheymadejokesandgotkindamean.Fatpeopleshouldnotbehatedbuttheyalsoshouldn'tbelookedatashealthy.Obesityisaseriousprobleminthiscountryandisdegradingthelivesofmanyaswellasrobbingthisworldoftrulygoodpeoplewhoarebrothers,sisters,mothers,andfathers.Hatingisnotthewaytohelpthisproblembutneitherisacceptingpeopleasbeingfateventhoughtheyshouldstillberespectedasaperson.Iwouldlikeeveryonetoconstantlybeworkingtowardstheirownphysicalandmentalhealthandwishsocietycouldformasupportivestructuretohelppeopleloseweight.Idon'thavegrandparentsanymoreduetotheircomplicationswithdiabetesandI'monly23.Healthateverysizeisaproblem.Fatpeoplehateisaproblem.Weshouldallbeworkingtogethertofindthesolutionsothatthenextgenerationwillnotbedeprivedofgrowingoldwiththeirlovedones.permalink

    [] MissAugusta 36points

    Reddithasactuallydisgustedmetoday.PeopleareactuallytryingtosmearEllenPaofortakingawaytheirrighttobullypeople.It'sshamefulandrevoltingandI'mgladthereareoneortwopositivethreadslikethisoneamongthetorrentofhate.permalink

    [] mentionthistome undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ifeltdisgustedtoo.Youconstantlyseethe"Welp,that'senoughRedditfortoday"joke,butyesterdaywasthefirsttimeIactuallynavigatedtothissitewiththeintentionofspendingtimeonit,readsomething,andclosedthetabasareactiontowhatIsaw.IunderstandthedangersofobesityandIunderstandwantingfreedomofexpression.Butthesheervolumeofpeopleupvotingridiculous,aggressive,maliciousattacksonthe"fat"(?)modswassodisheartening.permalink

    [] I3ombastic undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    TILlaughingaboutanonymouspicturesoffatpeopleonasmallprivateforum=bullyingpermalink

    [] Im_a_fuckin_asshole undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Ithinkwhatalotofpeopleareworriedaboutisn'tthefactthatthehategroupsgotremoved,butthatRedditcandecidewhatisandisn'tallowedanymore.Assomeonewhohasalotof(legal)fetishesthatsocietyatlargeprobablyseesasfuckedup,Ihavetowonderifthesubredditsforthosecommunitiesarealsoatriskofbeingdeleted.permalink

    [] scotty_pimmpen undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Seriously.ItwouldbegreatifallofthosepeoplecomplainingandtalkingaboutleavingRedditactuallydid.permalink

  • [] Earl_of_sandwiches 5points

    Don'tfeelbad,OP.Everyonehas"completelymissedthegoddamnpoint"onceortwicebefore.permalink

    [] ninnikubou 0points

    Onceagain/r/fitnessisapparentlybetterthaneveryoneelse.https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/3972to?sort=confidencepermalink

    [] clawz_nd_webz 1point

    IamnotproFPHatall,butIamantiHAES.It'sareallyreallyterriblewayofthinkingthatCANpromoteunhealthylifestyles.permalink

    [] sciuridae_ 5points

    Igetwhereyou'recomingfrombutIpersonallydisagree.There'salotofidiotswhohavegotthewrongendofthestickbutfromwhatI'veseenHAESissupposedtobemorealongthelinesof"beingskinnydoesn'tnecessarilymeanyou'rehealthierthananoverweightperson,andviceversa"andfocusingonselfimprovementwhilemakinganefforttoloveyourbodyeverystepoftheway.(Eg.Hypothetically,askinnypersoncanbeunhealthierthanaslightlyoverweightpersoniftheoverweightpersonhasamostlyhealthylifestylebuteatstoomuchchocolatewhiletheskinnypersondoesn'texercise,smokes,drinks,andeatsnothingbutnutrientpoorsaltycrap.)Ortoputitsimply,"youCANmakeanefforttofollowahealthylifestyle,nomatterwhatyoursize"ratherthan"morbidlyobesepeopleare100%healthyandyoucan'ttellmeanydifferentLALALALALA"Personallythatwayofthinkinghelpedmealot.I'veneverbeenfatbutafewyearsagoIdidgofromhavingaBMIslapbanginthemiddleofthe'healthyweight'rangetoaBMIattheupperendofthatsamerange.Idevelopedanunhealthybodyimageandacomplicatedrelationshipwithfoodthatwouldseemestandinginmyuniversity'sstudentshopwantingtobuysomethingforlunchbutbeingparalysedbytheconflictingdesirestoeatandtostarvemyself.Learningtolovemyselfandrecognisingthatmyweightdidn'tneccessarilyhavetodefinemyselfworth,whetherIwasbeautifulornot,ormyoverallfitnesswasinstrumentalinlettinggooftheviciouscycleIwastrappedin.Istartedrunningforfun,eventhoughIwascrapatfirst,becauseIloveditanditmademefeelgreat.Istartedeatingbetterandchoosinghealthierrevisionsnacksformylatenightlibrarysessions.IstoppedbeatingmyselfupifIatesomething"unhealthy"andIstoppedpokingatandobsessingover"flab"inthemirror.BasicallyIlivedahealthylifestylebecauseIwantedtobehealthy,nomatterifIlostweightornot,which(unsurprisingly)leadtomelosingweight.:)permalink

    [] clawz_nd_webz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Right,HAESissupposedtobethatway.IthinkthattheproperHAESisgood.TheproblemisthatpeoplearepervertingHAESandit'sturningintosomethingthatisanegative.PeoplearegenuinelybelievingthattheycanbemorbidlyobeseanditisahealthylifestylebecauseoftheHAESmentality.IthinkthatFPHmentalitywasabsurd.TothinkthatEVERYONEhadtobewithinthe"Healthy"BMIzoneisridiculous.There'snothingwrongwithalittlecushionandpromotingHAESasalright.Myproblemisthatwiththemorbidlyobesewhoaretellingpeoplethatit'sokaytobethatbigandthattheirDoctorsadvicetoloseweightiswrong.That'smyproblem.Everyonehasachoicetodowhatevertheywantwiththeirbodies,butdon'ttrytoconvincepeoplethatitishealthytohaveatrulyunhealthylifestyle.You'renolongerjusteffectingyourbody.You'retryingtoeffectothersnowas

  • wellandnotinapositiveway.permalink

    [] gduncan229 1point

    I'malsoaformerfatguy,andhonestlyIwashappyforalongtimebeingoverweight.Ididn'thaveanyhealthproblems,andIcoulddoeverythingIwantedto.ButthenonedayIchanged.Iwon'tgointothestory,butitwasoneofthefirsttimesIfeltfat.SoIlostit.Iwentfrombeing5'11"at280lbto156lb,whichatthatweightformewassickly,butIwasdeterminedtoloseweight.AfteracoupleofyearsI'mnowhealthier.I'maround190lb,buteventothisday.I'mtryingtodomyfirstbulkandit'sbeenhardbecausewhileI'mbetterIstillfearthefatattimesandstumblebacktomyoldways.SoIthinkshamingoverweightpeopleisjustwrong.Ifanythingtheyshouldbeencouraged.There'sacoupleofoverweightpeopleatmygymandmostofthemaretherewheneverIamandtheystayjustaslongasIdo.Tomethey'redoinggreatbecausetheyhaven'tgivenup.Eveniftheydon'tloseweighttheirbodiesarebetterforit.NowIknowsomethathavekindofgivenup.Theywillcomplainthattheycan'tdosomethingbecausesomethingpreventsthem.Ithinkthesepeopleshouldbeencouragedtoo.WhenIwasoverweightIcouldn'trunbecausemykneesbuggedme.LastyearIranahalfmarathonandmykneeswerefinebythetimeIwasdone.Encouragementisthebestapproachoverall.Shamingjustleadstopeopleeithergivingupbecausetheygetbeatendone,orlikeformecausesthemtostrugglewithbeingahealthyweight.permalink

    [] Sith_Gains 1point

    Idon'tthinkbeingfatishealthybutIbelieveit'sapersonalchoiceinalotofways.Ithappenstolotsofpeoplebutreallypeopleletithappentothem.permalink

    [] BitCY 1point

    Lookingatpeoplewhopostherewhobecomehalfthesizetheywerewithdietandexerciseisamazingtoseeandijusthavemadrespectforthem.Peoplewhojustblameeverythingelsefortheirweight.Thoseihavenorespect.permalink

    [] moiez326 4points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Firstoff,youdontknowwhatfphisallabout.Fphwasandisntabouthatingpeople,itshatingthewholeideaoffatacceptanceandpraising.Youdactuallybesurprisedhowwelcomingandsupportiveandknowledgeablefphmembersare.Second,likewhateveryonehassaid:sometimes,hateisexactlywhatyouneedtoopenyoureyes.Sometimesyouneedtoheartheuglytruth.Itsliketellingastupidperson:heyithinkyoushould,maybe,idk,pickupabookonceinawhile?Butthatwonthelp.Instead,youhavetoshowthemhowfuckingstupidandillinformedtheyreallyareandhowitsfuckinguptheirandeveryoneelse'slife.permalink

    [] mhende 1point

    Somepeoplelikehavinganoutlettobemean,andpretendingthatitishelpfulmakesyoufeelbetteraboutit.Itmighthelpsomepeople,butitsprettywellestablishedthatdifferentpeoplearemotivatedanddiscouragedbydifferentthings.Ifyouarealloverredditpreachingfatacceptance,orifyou'repostingfatpeoplehatetotryamdcounteractthat...Imeanbothmakesyoukindofaweirdotome.Whyisitsohardtojustbenormalandnotbeaninternetnutjob?permalink

  • [] Kivla 5points

    Don'tbenaive.FPHwaspurelyhatingonobeseandoverweightpeoplebasedonhowtheylooked.Thehatredthatspewedfromthatsubreddithadnothingtodowithfatacceptance.Theuserswoulduploadpicsfrompeople'sFBsandsayshitlikeHAHALOOKATDATLANDWHALE.Yeah.Totallyhatingonfatacceptance.Alsoforacommunitythatissupposedtobeso"welcoming"and"supportive"theysuredidn'tactlikeit.Modsatthatsubweremorethanhappytobanpeoplethatwerefatorweredeemedfatsympathisers.Theusersofthesubcelebratedwhenithappenedandthenwouldinsulttheuser.Suchawelcomingcommunityrightthere.permalink

    [] jorge1213 2points

    I'veneverjudgedasinglefatpersonatthegym.ButIhatethefattyoutsidethegymdoingnothingtoimprovehiswellbeing.permalink

    [] chiroquesvistunoque undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Hambeastsstrikeback!permalink

    [] MythicalBlackFox 2points

    itssadthatbeingfatgetsyoujudgedsoquickly.BothmybrotherandIgainweightveryeasily,sowetendtogainandtrylosingweightoverandover.It'snoteasy,butwhoamitocomplain,ithasgivenmediscipline.Icanassureeveryonewhohasntbeenoverweightthatnooneenjoyslookinglikethat.It'sabouttimeforpeopletorespectthosewhoareputtingefforttobetterthemselves.permalink

    [] Bookkeep 9points

    Fitnessisalready,bydefinition,fatpeoplehatethough.it'sjustfatpeoplehatingthemselvesandwantingtochange.permalink

    [] Pxorp 3points

    Somepeopleneedtofeelashamedoftheirbodytochangesomething.PartofwhyAmericansaresofatisbecauseithasbecomenormal,noonebatsaneyeifafattywalksby.FPH'spurposewastogoagainstthisfatacceptancemovementwhichtotallymakessense.Mostofthecontentwaspurebullying,though.Ikindalikedvisitingitforthelaughs,thepicturewerepuregoldsometimes.permalink

    [] oneandoneis2 4points

    wonderingwhattheotherpeopleinthegymarethinkingaboutyou

    Actually,IME,theanswertothatisneither"goodonya"OR"scum"it's"they'renotthinkingaboutyou".IrememberwhenIfirststartedbackatthegymcomingfromtheotherextremeofskinandbonesweaklingwhowasgenuinelyworriedabouttryingtoliftabarbellbar,nevermindputtingweightonit.IdeliberatelychoseatimeIwasprettysuretheplacewouldbenearemptyandstillstruggledwiththe"everyoneislookingatme/judgingme/mockingme"fears.AfewworkoutslaterandIrealisedthatwhenIwasinaworkout,otherpeoplebarelyevenregisteredasexistingatall,nevermindmakingitfarenoughintomyconsciousnesstojudgethem.

  • Unlessyou'reusingthepieceofequipmentIwanttousenext,youcansafelyassumethatnotonlyamInotjudgingyou,I'mnotevenreallyawareofyouatall.(AndifyouAREhoggingtheequipmentIwant,notonlyamIawareofyoubutIhateyouwiththeheatofathousandsunsregardlessofyourbuild)permalink

    [] iiuybr 2points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    It'sbecausethebanned/r/fatpeoplehate...permalink

    [] space_wine 9points

    https://i.imgur.com/foATDvf.jpgpermalink

    [] xmikelopez 2points

    Sooppressedpermalink

    [] PrometheusIsFree 6points

    There'salotoffitpeoplewhousedtobefat.Mostareinheretohelpnotabuse.permalink

    [] SteakMarsala 6points

    fatshamingdoesn'tbelonghere,ofcourse.permalink

    [] Galahad_Lancelot 4points

    FUCKYES!Hatingandinsultingdoesnothingtohelpandit'sfuckingpathetic.thankyousir.permalink

    [] Heuristics 1point

    Istarteddoingfitnessinpartduetoridicule.Itdoeshelp.permalink

    [] vallsin 2points

    thanksmanthelastlinereallyhelpedmedragmyasstothegymtoday...permalink

    [] rubbishmyjunk 0points

    That'snotthepoint.Thepointisthatthey'vebacktrackedonholdingfreespeechinthehighestregard.Illideaswillbebeatdowninthecourtofpublicopinion.Censorshipistheultimatecowardice.IknowIsoundlikearetardtryingtosoundlikearevolutionaryoverbeingabletolaughatfatties,butcomeon.permalink

    [] Kivla 7points

    BlahblahblahandFPHmodsactivelybannedanyoneforbeingfatorafatsympathiser.Wherewastheoutragewhentheycensoreddissentingopinionsintheirsub?permalink

    [] misterTaco 8points

    FPHissuperbutthurtaboutbeingcensored,yettheywouldbanliterallyanyonethatdidntjumponthecirclejerk.Anyonethatdisagreedatallgotbanned.Biggestdamngroupofhypocritesever.

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    [] elpachucasunrise 7points

    Therighttofreespeechdoesn'tmeanrighttostalkandharass.permalink

    [] Chibiheaven 10points

    IfI'vereadcorrectly,peopleactivelywentoutoftheirwaytostalkredditorswho'vepostedpicsofthemselves,andthenshamingthem.Howisthatokay?Wouldyouwanttobecalledout?permalink

    [] Tarmairon 10points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Howdoesbanningthesub,whichdidn'tencouragethatbehaviorbtw,changethat?Theusersarestilloutthere,andnowtheyknowtheyrustledlejimmes.It'sjustaPRmovetoshowthatredditis"takingsteps"tomakeitasafeplace.permalink

    [] misterTaco 4points

    Ifthesuballowedittohappen(itdid)andthosetypesofpostsgotupvoted(theydid)howisthatnotencouragingthattypeofbehavior?permalink

    [] 10week 16points

    Iwasgladtoseenoneofthatbullshitheretillthispost...permalink

    [] angst_angst_angst undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Honestly."I'mreallygladwe'renottalkingaboutfatpeoplehate,solet'screateathreadwherepeoplecanargueaboutwhetherfatshamingworksornot."Okayguys.permalink

    [] Absolvo_Me 2points

    Ijustwanttobringittoattentionthatthe'fatpeoplehate'here(immostlyreferringtothe/r/fatpeoplestoriesthatmakethefrontpage)doesnotapplytooverweightpeopleingeneral.Itappliestotheentitledlazyfatpeoplethatmakeourlivesmiserable.Asaruleofthumb,ifyoureplacetheword'fat'with/anyotherslurofyourchoiceandstillreadthestory,thenitisjustaboutanassholeingeneral.permalink

    [] King_Kydos 23points

    Everysanepersonknowsthathatingpeopledoesn'thelpthem

    Withouttryingtogetprovokeabigdebate,alotofthehateisactuallydirectedatpeoplewhotrytojustifytheirweight,trytoclaimthatthey'rehealthydespitemedicalexpertssayingotherwiseandactuallytrytoputnormalsizedpeopledownforbowingtosociety'sstandards.Allinthisisknownasthe"fatacceptancemovement"Ipersonallyhaven'tgotanyproblemwithpeoplewhoareoverweightandwouldn'tdreamoflookingdownonafatpersonatthegym,butpeoplewhotrytopropagateliesandclaimthatbeing5'5"and19stoneis"beautifulandhealthy"makemeangry.ObesityisbecominganinsaneprobleminmanypartsoftheworldandIdon'twantchildrenseeingpeoplelikeTessMunstersayingthatitiscompletelyhealthyandacceptabletobehersizewhenallthesciencesaysitisnothealthy.

  • ObviouslysomeofthestuffonFPHwasoverthetop,vitriolicgarbagebutIpersonallyfindfatacceptancejustasoffensiveasthebadstuffonFPH,it'swrongforonlyonesideofthisargumenttobesilencedlikeitwas.permalink

    [] captnyoss 8points

    IwasbrieflysubscribedandIenjoyedthepostswherepeopleposteddumbthingsoverweightpeoplehadsaidaboutfitnessorwhytheywerefat.Butthenthesubfilledwithpostsofoverweightpeopledoingtotallynormalthingsandgettingviciouslyattackedforbeingfatanditwasn'tfunitwasjustoverthetopbullying.SoIwhileIguessthere'sanargumentaboutfreedomofspeechorwhatever,Ipersonallyamgladtohaveunsubscribed.permalink

    [] Kivla 39points

    Butfatacceptancewastackledinothersubslike/r/fatlogic.FPHdidn'tspecificallygoafterHAESpeople.Theusersofthattoxicsubwouldtakephotosofrandompeopleinpublicthensharethemaroundforthousandsofuserstolaughatandinsultthepicturedindividual.Wannaknowhowmanyofthosepeopleevenknewaboutfatacceptance?BarelyfuckinganyIbet.Idon'tevenhearaboutFAoutsideofredditorscomplainingaboutit.It'snotthismassivemovementthatredditproclaimsittobeandsayingthatFPHonlytargetedpeopleassociatedwiththatmovementisdownrightignorantandstraightupalie.permalink

    [] King_Kydos 1point[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    sayingthatFPHonlytargetedpeopleassociatedwiththatmovementisdownrightignorantandstraightupalie.

    LuckyformeIwentoutofmywaynottosaythat,infactIsaid>someofthestuffonFPHwasoverthetop,vitriolicgarbageButalargeproportionofthepostsweredirectedatthelikesofMunsterandother"plussizemodels"whoareadvocatinganunhealthywayoflifeandI'mallforthatsortofcriticism.TessMunsterhas846kfollowersonInstagramsoit'ssafetosayFAexistsoutsideofreddit,Ithink.Andjusttoreiteratemystanceoverall,Idon'tcondoneeverythingFPHusedtodobutIthinkitiswrongthatitwasjustsilencedlikeitwas.permalink

    [] Kivla 5points

    Fairenough,youdidn'tsayonlytargetedfatacceptanceetc.Imisquoted.Butyoudidsaythatmostofthehatewastargetedatthatmovement.Istillthinkthatiswrong.Istandbymypreviousstatement.Thatsubredditwasnothingbutbullyingpeopleforthewaytheylooked.permalink

    [] King_Kydos 1point

    Honestly,wheneverIwentonit,TessMunsterwasineverysecondpost.Maybeitdegeneratedalotmoretowards'theend'(whichwouldn'tsurpriseme,mostsubredditsdegeneraterapidlyastheygainpopularity),butIthinkbanningwastooharsh,therearefarfarworsesubredditsoutthere.Itsmacksofbowingtopublicpressuretomebecauseitwasoneofthemorepopularoffensivesubs.There'salsonoexplanationforwhynewersubredditsarebeingbannedwhentheycan'tpossiblyhavebrokenanyrulesyet.permalink

    [] Unbrokenspirit 4points

    Fromsomeonewholost75lbs,Ihaveseenbothsidesofthecoin.Hatinganyoneforasimpleandnondiscriminatory

  • reasonisutterbullshitanditsaysmoreaboutyouthanitdoesabouttheissue.FatpeoplehatefromwhatI'veseenseemstobemorelikeasociallyacceptedformofbullying.NottosayitexistseverywhereofissomethingIwanttoparticipatein,butitexistsnonetheless.Thatbeingsaid,everytimeIgointhegymIhaveoneoftwothoughts.IseeoverweightpeopleinthegymandIeitherthink,a)goodonyou,you'reasmallpercentageofthepopulationofoverweightpeoplewhoareDOINGsomethingaboutit.Orb)Iseeinmygymmanyoverweightpeoplesignupandcomeforamonth,slowlysittingonanexcercisebikeandbarelypedalingwhilereadingamagazine.WhileIhavemadethetransformationmyselfanditthereforegivesmeaslightbias,Iknowthestruggle.Iapplaudeverysingleoverweightpersonmakingtheattempttoloseweightbyexcercise.Dietsoftenfail,butbuildingalifestyleofcommitmentandhabittrulyhelptobreakthemonotonythatbroughtthemtothestatetheyareininthefirstplace.Nobodyshouldhateonfatpeopleunlessit'sforasolidreason,likeifthey'rebeinganasshole.Ifsomeoneisnice,greatthemnicely.Ididn'tgainanyconfidenceuntilIstartedconsistentlyworkingoutandtransformingmybody.I'mstillfarfromperfect,butperspectiveisamotherfuckerandIknowwhatI'vegonethroughtogethereandI'llbedamnedifIletanyonetakethatawayfromme.It'sashamethatpeoplewouldratherhateonfatpeopleforfuninsteadofprovideguidelinesandencouragementtohelptransformboththeirhealthandlifeoutlook.permalink

    [] AstroWarriorPitPot 3points

    uwotm8permalink

    [] gkoogz undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Fatpeopledeservetobehatedforeverythingtheirfuckingpigmouthsandsocietalburdenareworthpermalink

    [] TOSH2345 2points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Andifyouareafatpersonreadingthispostwhoiswonderingwhattheotherpeopleinthegymarethinkingaboutyou,itisnotallthisbollocksbeingpostedonthissite.IthinkIcanspeakonbehalfofmostofusinthissubwhenIsaythatuponseeingafatpersoninthegymIthink'fuckinggoodonyamate'not'errryouarescum'.

    Ithinkasagroupgymgoersaretheleastlikelytohateuponfatpeopleinthegym.Peoplewhoareintofitnessallsharesimilarcorevaluesinparticularselfimprovementandinnerdrive,Whetheryou'refat,thin,old,young,havesomedisability,fit/unfitthefactyou'reinthegymshowsthatyouhavethesecommongoals.Forallitsposturingandvanitythegymisactuallyaveryinclusiveplacebecauseofthis.permalink

    [] barakvesh 7points

    ITY:"shamingfatpeopleisokay,really"Disappointing,/r/fitnesspermalink

    [] BlakesDonger 1points

    Itisokayinsomecases.Somefatpeoplemaywanttochangeifyoutellthemthattheyneedtoeathealthier,ontheotherhandsomefatpeoplemaywanttochangeifyoucallthemafatbagofshitwho'sgonnadiebeforehereaches60.permalink

    [] barakvesh 5points

  • Ithinkthe"don'tbeanasshole"liferuleappliestointeractingwithfatpeopletoopermalink

    [] MonkeyMercenaryCapt 15points

    Iknowright:(fatpeoplehatewentfarbeyondfatshamingitwasliterallyaboarddedicatedtotheabsolutehatredoffatpeople.Itsliketakingthetenantsofantisemitismandapplyingittofatpeople.permalink

    [] yoshi314 0points

    youkeepreferringtofatpeoplewhoarewillingtochange.thereareplentyofpeoplesubscribedtoHAESlogic,whichseesucheffortsas"shaming",andclaimthattheyarehealthy.theyrefusetobeeducated,theyrefusetochange,andtheonlyproblemtheyseeiswhyotherpeopledonotfindthemattractive,orhowslimmerpeoplehaveeasierlifedueto'thinprivilege'someofthemmakemoneyonpromotingsuchlogic.ofcoursetherearesanefatpeople,whoworkonlosingweight.buttherearealsocaseslikethese.thewholedramawasabouttheeffectiveshotgunapproachcensorshiphere,whichaffectedalsopeoplebashingthoseHAESfolks.permalink

    [] 4cimos 7points

    Thewholedramawasabout/r/FPHaccessingprivateinformationandphotosofimgurstaffandencouraginguserstoharassthem.Ithadnothingtodowiththecontentofthesubreddit.InspeakingofthecontentthoughI'mgladfatpeoplehateisgone.ItwasnotanalternativevoicetoHAES.Itwasaviciousplacefullofviciousandcruelpeople.Idistinctlyrememberapostthereaboutaguywhowassavingupforsurgerytogetridofmassesandmassesoflooseskinafterlosingcloseto200pounds(hedidn'tpostittherethepostwastakenfromoneoftheweightlosssubreddits).Hisphotowasridiculedandcommentersweresayingthatheshouldkeeptheskinasa"ScarletLetter"toletothersknowheusedtobefat.It,like/r/jailbait,won'tbemissed.permalink

    [] yoshi314 2points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    well,idon'tmindthatonegone,especiallyifyoumentiondoxxing.butidonotlikethefallout.permalink

    [] barneythepurplethot 2points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    idon'tagreewithfphbutsomepeoplerespondpositivelytoharshtruthsandothersrespondpositivelytokindwordsandencouragementitjustdependsontheinduvidualpermalink

    [] only_spoons 35points

    Ithinkalotofpeoplehaveadeepfearofbeingfatand"disgusting"(whateverthatmeanstothempersonally)themselvesandthatiswhytheyaresovocalintheirhatred.It'slikeonlybyremindingthemselveshowawfultheythinkitiscantheypreventthemselvesfrombecominglikethat.I'veneverbeenfatpersonallybutIhavestruggledwithbodyimageandIamawarethatpersonallyIdonotwanttobeoverweight.Andhonestlyit'snotevenahealththingIcanadmitthatIdon'twanttobeperceivedasunattractive.However,thisdoesn'tmakemehatefatpeople.I'mawarethatifIfeeluncomfortablewithbeingfat,theymightwellfeeljustasuncomfortable.Itmakesmefeelempathy.IfeelsorrythatsomeonemaynotbeabletofindawaytogetoutofthatpositionbecauseIknowIwouldwantto.permalink

    [] PM_ME_YOUR_QUADS undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

  • Iwoulddescribeitasmoreofandequallyextreme,oppositereactiontotheHAESandotherfatnormalizationmovements,maybeevenMalcomXesque.Itwastheoppositesideofthespectrum.permalink

    [] N_Raist 0points

    Howdoyouhavedeepfearofactivelydoingsomethingforalongperiodoftime?Iwouldn'tliketogetfat,forsure,justlikeIwouldn'tlikedoingmeth.Butthatdoesn'tmeanIfearit,becauseit'ssomethingIhavegreatcontrolover.permalink

    [] cardevitoraphicticia 1points

    WhereasI'mjustpartofthisbecauseIthinkcensorshipisworsethanhatespeech.permalink

    [] ripsonofficial 2points[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Theonlytypeofhatethatwillworkisifyou'refatandyouhateyourselfsothatburnsafireinsideyoutochangeyourself,butusuallyselfhatenevermotivatespeoplejustbringsthemdownintoworsepositions.Butwhatifyouhatedfarpeoplesomuchthatyouliterallyputallyourstrengthandtimeintotryingtoeducatepropernutritionandexerciseandmakeitallcheaperandmoreavailableonaglobalscalebecauseyouneverwantedtoseeafatpersonagain?Thatwouldbeawierdfuckingwaytogoaboutit.permalink

    [] Synaps4 9points

    ItWASnicenottoseeithere.nowyou'vestartedthediscussionhere.Ididn'tneedanothersubreddittodiscussthistopic.Ialreadyhavetheentirerestofthesiteforthat...permalink

    [] Brelett 0points

    sowhatdoyouthinkaboutthisallpermalink

    [] 9inety9ine 1point[originaluneditedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Everysanepersonknowsthathatingpeopledoesn'thelpthem

    Mostsanepeopleknowthatcensoringpeopledoesn'tmakethemgoaway.Theyhadaplacetopostthatstuffandnowit'sbeentakenaway.It'slikefindingapaperbagthat'sonfire,thatyouknowisfullofdogshit,butyoustomponitanyway.permalink

    [] harveybirdman 2points

    IunsubbedfromthemainsubredditslongagosoI'veonlygotthegistofthecurrentdramagoingon(bywhatIunderstandessentiallymainsubredditsaregettingfloodedwithantiobesityandfathateposts?).I'mverygladthatstupiddramahasn'tfloodedintothissubtoo.Idon'tagreewithfathateandIdon'tthinkit'sparticularlyhelpful.Itcanbeamotivatorforweightlossforsomebutshamingisnotreallyapositivewayofgoingaboutitandcanleadtointernalisingalotofselfhateaswellashateforotherfatpeople.Butthatbeingsaid,Idon'tagreewithfatacceptanceeither.Promotinganunhealthyweightorunhealthylifestyleasacceptableisjustwronganddangerous.permalink

    [] AdumbroDeus 14points

  • That'stheticket,encouragementnothate.permalink

    [] Crookmeister 3points

    I'dsay/allrightnowislessabouthatingfatpeopleandmoreaboutrebellingandshittingonredditforcensorship.I'mkindafinewithit.I'vebeenusingvoatforawhilenowanyway.Lessshitgoesonthereandit'sniceandcalmandquiet.It'sjustpeoplesharingcontent.permalink

    [] mustfarfar 3points

    Ifthereareanypeopleouttherewhounderstandfeelingfat,ugly,weakorsmallit'sthepeoplewhostartedexercising.Suresomepeoplemightbetootakenwiththeirowninsecuritiessotheyprojecttheirnegativityand"hate"towardsothersbutIthinkweat/r/fitnesshaveaslightlybetterunderstandingforthedifficultythanmostpeople.permalink

    [] InfiniteV 945points

    Thisis/r/fitness.Wediscussfitnessfromanobjectivestandpoint.Idon'tthinkanyoneheregivesashitaboutfatpeopleunlessthey'recurlinginthesquatrack.permalink

    [] mehavesomethingtosay undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    thereareplentyofpeoplein/r/fitnessdiscussingfitnessfromanextremelysubjectivestandpoint.permalink

    [] potatomeat undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    EverytimeIposton/r/Fitnessaboutmytroubleswithovercomingmybattlewithfat,lookingforguidanceormotivation,Igetmeatheadsrespondingwithangrydribble.So,after3or4ofthese,Ijuststoppedasking/r/Fitnessforanythingandhavesincedeletedallmyposts.permalink

    [] jaredb45 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Formeitisnota"hate"offatpeopleliketherewasonFPH,itsahatredofthelackofdesiretostaysomewhathealthyortakecareofonesself.Iknownotever"large"personcanhelpitbutaperfectexampleofwhatIcantstandisIhaveacoworkerwhoisoverweightandgetsoutofbreathjustwalking20'orso.Hecomplainsallthetimeabouthowheisoverweightandhisdoctorssaythereisnothingtheycandoforhisconditionsuntilhedropssomeweight.Wellatlunchheeatsmassiveamountsofshittyfoodandsayshewillneverexercise.I'vetriedtohelphimmultipletimes(notinfrontofanyone)bygivinghimexerciseoptionsanddiettips.Heofcoursehasn'tdoneanyofthoseoranythingatallandeverytimehecomplainsIwanttotellhimtostfubecauseherefusestodoanythingaboutit.EverytimeIseesomeonesprogresspicsonhereIwishIcouldgivethemabighighfiveandtellthemhowfuckingawesomeofajobtheyaredoing.Sorry,okayrantover.permalink

    [] Crunkenstien undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    It'snotaboutfatpeoplehate.It'saboutfreespeech.ThebanningofFPHwasjustthefinalstraw.permalink

    [] Catholic_Spray undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Wediscussfitnessfromanobjectivestandpoint.

    Youmustbenewhere.

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    [] Geruvah undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    coughWhenit'sreallylateatnightandnobodyelseisintheroom,Idoit...permalink

    [] zortor undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Yourcommentisnice,thoI'venotfoundr/fitnesstobeanobjectivediscussion.permalink

    [] nano_343 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Idon'tthinkanyoneheregivesashitaboutfatpeopleunlessthey'recurlinginthesquatrack.

    Thisappliestoeveryone,notjustfatpeople.Ihateitwhenyou'retakingupspace,sothatyoucansayitwenttothegym.There'sagirlatmygym,hasbeengoingforabout6monthsnow.Hasmadeabsolutelyzeroprogress.None.Shehasatrainer(whoisaboutasunfitassheis)aswell.Whyshehasn'tfiredhimyetandbeganworkingwithmanyoftheNationallevelcompetitorswealsohaveastrainers,Idon'tunderstand.Instead,she'stherethreedaysaweek,complaininghowshehasn'tseentheprogressshewants.You'rewastingyourtimeandmoney.Andyou'rewastingmytimebytakingupgymspacethatIcouldbeusingtoactuallymakeprogress.Fatorskinny,thosearethepeopleIcan'tstand.permalink

    [] Crap4Soul undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Hotgirlcurlinginthesquatrackalsounacceptable.Wehaveequalitystandardshere.permalink

    [] slapyomomma13 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Thisisoneofmyfavgymratrants.Theinfamousargumentofwhetherornotpeopleshouldbedoingbarbellcurlsinthesquatracks.Theanswerisfuckyou.noseriouslythough,1)thewidergriponthebarbellallowsforabetterpumpfortheinsideofthebicepasyourarmsareforcedoutwardsbythebarbell.2)nowthatwehaveareasonableuse/argumentforthebarbellletsdiscussdoingitinthesquatracks,wherearethebarbells?youguessedit,squatracks.Sowhetherornotsomeonedoesitinthesquatrackornotyoustillloseoutonyourbarbellandhaveauselesssquatrack.3)itsapublicgymandthisarguementisusedasasenseofbelongingtoaclique.Ivebeentrainingforabouttenyears,andihaveheardthisargumenttimeandtimeagain,nooneistakingsolongdoingcurlsinasquatrackthatitimpedesonyourworkout.Icantevencounttheamountoftimesiseeguysinthegymconstantlymountupmaxweightsfor12badformrepsandthensomehowmaketheargumentabout"uknowwhatihateinthegym...."likereally?Itskindoflikecomplainingaboutnewgymmembersinthenewyear,really?youneverstartedoffassomesmallshrimpyoroverweightkidtryingtogetintoshape?you'veneverwantedtochangesomethingaboutyourlifeandhadtostartatgroundzero?Peoplearesoampedattearingotherpeopledownjusttofitin.Liveandletlive.permalink

  • [] smurf_diggler undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    [http://imgur.com/gallery/7LmJQfY](SpreadAwareness)permalink

    [] epibolic 0points

    Isubmittedthisto/r/bestof.Thispostmademymorning.Here'swhy:Iwassurprisedbyreddit'sdecisiontobansomesubs.Iwasshockedbythebacklash.Iwasdisgustedbyhowquicklyitdevolvedintomisogyny,callingtheredditCEOac***andexpressingadesiretopunchherintheface.Itremindedmeofhowgamergatequicklywentfromadiscussionofintegrityingamereviewstopersonalattacksoffemalegamesjournalists.Ifledfrom/r/alltomysubreddits,lookingforsolace.Ifoundthis./r/fitnessstrikesmeastheperfectplaceforthisdiscussion.Thecontroversyof/r/fatpeoplehateisinherentlyaboutfitness.Peoplethatarefatarenotphysicallyfit.Theyaremockedon/r/fatpeoplehateforthislackoffitness.Redditleadershipdecidesthatthehatersarenotsociallyfit,andbansthemforthislackoffitness.RedditorsrespondbystatingthattheCEOofredditisnotfitandfloodthesitewithhateforthislackoffitness.Fitness,initsDarwiniansense,meansthestateofbeingsuitablyadaptedtoanenvironment.Ineachofthethreecasesabove,thesubjectwasdeemedunfitandpunishmentswerelevelled.Thisisnotasurprisingoutcome,asitishowbiologyandsocietyoperates.Theorganismrejectsthethingsthatstandinthewayofitsdefinitionofsuccess.Successisrelativeandoftencontradictory.Conflictrisesfromthesecontradictions.Thispostwasanaffirmationthatthereisanothersidetothisstory.Therearecommentsfrompeoplewhousedtobefatandbelievetheyneededsomehatetoencouragethemtobehealthier.Therearecommentsaboutagrowinguneasinessinthemedicalcommunitytobebluntaboutpatient'shealthissuesforfearofbeinglabelledahater.Therecommentsthatquestionwhatisgoingonin/r/all./r/fitnesshasalwaysbeenaterrificplacetohaveopendiscussionsaboutfitnessandreceiveintelligent,frank,andkindfeedbackandcriticism.Ibelievethatthereisnobetterplaceonreddittodiscussthefitnessofreddit'schoiceandthefitnessofreddit'sreactiontothatchoice.Iapplaudyou,/r/fitness.Iapplaudallofus,fat,skinny,haters,CEOs,wecangetbeyondthisconflict.Thanks.permalink

    [] Neuromancer311 undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    Theideaisthatthereshouldbefreedomtoopenlydiscusswhatwewantto.Iwasn'tamemberandreallydon'thavetimetowasteonfathatebutIthinkpeopleshouldhavetheabilitytodiscussit.Theproblemisthatitallspiralsintohavingtodecidewhichgroupstoallow.WeclosedfatpeoplehategreatforsomeIguessbutwestillhavecutefemalecorpses.Whatthefuck?Priorities.permalink

    [] great_____divide undefinedpoints[deletedcommentrestoredbyuneddit.com]

    It'snotaboutthesubreddititself,it'saboutthecensorship.Idon'tcareaboutFPH,didn'tevenknowitexisted,butIcareaboutthissiteslowlygoingdownthedrainintoapoliticallycorrect,SJWapproved,safespaceenabled,triggerfree,attackhelicopterkinfriendlyhellhole.It'salwaysfinewhentheycensorstuffyoud


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