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    The first topic is the authenticity of the bible and the Quran in the lights of

    science.

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    to mankind we need to look at the previous revelations of God to mankind and their

    characteristics. It is the sunnah (way) of God (Allah) the most merciful to send to peopleguidance contained in a revelation, and one main feature of all God (Allah) revelations is thatthey are based on mercy, for example when Allah states that you shouldnt steal, or stealing isforbidden it is not just dos and donts for the sake of just commanding people, but the reasonbehind it is that God Allah wants to elevate humans to the level Allah wants for them andhonoured people in so many ways, so if you look at a thief he is scared of his own shadow, in amiserable state that God (Allah) does not want for humans. So Allahs commands are based onmercy.This guidance or revelations is delivered to people by a selected person of God called amessenger or a prophet. What is the reason of this person being a man and just a man nothingmore?Because Allah states that if God willed he would have sent angles to you. But thereason behind this is that if a prophet (a man) can follow these rules then you can do the same,if a prophet endures 18 years of illness Allah is delivering the message that people you shouldhave patience of what you are going through. But if anything other than a man and simply a mansuffers this how can you relate to him does he really feel this? How can you know because he isnot like you.So to take the following examples, prophet Moses (pbuh) was sent to deliver and rescue thesons of Israel from the pharos of Egypt, now Allah (God) all Mighty methodology (Way) is toreinforce his words with a miracle (something beyond human endavour (human effort)).Now this miracle is not something people cant comprehend like making the miracle with Mosessomething that has to do with genetics or DNA they couldnt understand it, but as a sign ofAllahs mercy the miracle is tangible to the main theme of the age and to people understandingbut superior to that theme and cant be done by humans.For example Allah gave miracles with prophet Moses that had to with Magic which was the maintheme of the pharos of that time who were involved in witchcraft and magic, so the miracle wastangible to that theme but superior to it and people realised that it was a miracle and peoplewith clear and sound reasoning accepted the message.So the aim of God (Allah) all mighty is to guide and not to confuse.

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    So to take the following examples, prophet Moses (pbuh) was sent to deliver and rescue

    the sons of Israel from the pharos of Egypt, now Allah (God) all Mighty methodology(Way) is to reinforce his words with a miracle (something beyond human endavour

    (human effort)).

    Now this miracle is not something people cant comprehend like making the miracle

    with Moses something that has to do with genetics or DNA they couldnt understand it,

    but as a sign of Allahs mercy the miracle is tangible to the main theme of the age and to

    people understanding but superior to that theme and cant be done by humans.

    For example Allah gave miracles with prophet Moses that had to with Magic which was

    the main theme of the pharos of that time who were involved in witchcraft and magic,

    so the miracle was tangible to that theme but superior to it and people realised that it

    was a miracle and people with clear and sound reasoning accepted the message.

    So the aim of God (Allah) all mighty is to guide and not to confuse.

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    After prophet Moses pbuh Allah (God) all Mighty send prophet Jesus pbuh to the sons

    of Israel to reinforce the Torah the revelation that was given to Moses and to reveal theInjeel (the guidance Allah gave this prophet of God), again to know the miracle that

    would accompany prophet Jesus pbuh we only need to study the main theme of the

    people of that age.

    The people when Jesus pbuh arrived were advanced medical knowledge they were so

    much involved in Greek medicine so the miracles would be tangible to that theme but

    superior to it.

    So people realised that raising the dead and healing the blind with Gods permission is

    something medicine cant do so these miracles strengthen the believers and guide the

    non-believers to the path of Allah (God) all Mighty.

    A very important question why Allah (God) all Mighty send prophet Jesus pbuh? The

    sons of Israel already had the Torah (the law mentioned in the bible which is in

    Hebrew (Torah)) of God and guidance to them so what is the need for another

    prophet? What is the need for Solimon after David? What is the need for a prophet in

    a nation already had the guidance of God to them?

    The answer is that: the sons of Israel they twisted and contaminated the original

    revelation given to Moses by adding to it and taking away from it, so Allah (God) send

    prophet Jesus to correct this and to keep them on the path of the All Mighty and the

    message of the law (Torah) send to the sons of Israel. (this is the sunnah (way) of God

    (Allah) all mighty)

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    What happened after prophet Jesus pbuh, for a period of 600 Years after him there was

    no prophet on the face of this earth and people twisted Allahs (God) words andguidance, the sons of Israel twisted what they had from Moses and Jesus pbuthem. The

    Arabs twisted what they inherited and heard about prophet Ibrahim pbuh. People all

    over the earth started worshipping men, cows, monkey, snakes, and stones .

    As a sign of God (Allah) mercy to mankind to save them from this lower degraded state,

    to save them, and to rescue them from this send his last and beloved prophet

    Mohammad (PBUH) as the last messenger and prophet to mankind. So the Quran

    establishes what remained intact from previous preaching of prophets and messengers

    of God but corrector and dominant over all previous scriptures.

    So we see the constancy in Allah (God) dealing with people never changing.

    To know the miracle that would accompany prophet Mohamamd (PBUH) we only to

    study the main theme of the people of that age, the Arabs they were so eloquent in the

    use of Arabic language, so Allah send down the Quran in which the level of the use of

    Arabic is unsurpassed and for more than 1400 years since it was revealed no human or

    other creation could produce a single verse of it, again tangible to the main theme of

    the people (people could understand it with their knowledge) but cant produce the

    likes of, so people accepted that it is a miracle and accepted the faith.

    The Quran consists of Chapters and verses and it was revealed to Prophet Mohammad

    pbuh through the arch angle Gabriel more than 1400 years ago.

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    This constancy in Allahs way of dealing with people throughout the ages is highlighted

    in the Noble Quran in these verses where Allah says that you wont find any deviation inAllahs sunnah (way of dealing)

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    Here we see the constancy in Allahs way revelations throughout the ages which further

    establishes the oneness in the creator (since the action, methodology is one and notseveral which indicates the oneness in the source)

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    However, the Noble Quran and the message of Islam was not intended for the people of Arabia

    only, but it is a universal message and it is the final revelation till judgment day, so as we seen sofar when there is a revelation there must be a miracle to support it because that is AllahsSunnah (way of dealing) so now we have the Noble Quran, the sunnah of the Prophet mayAllahs peace and blessings be upon him and the message of Islam, the question is that where isthe miracle to accompany this revelation from Allah sobhano wa ta3ala To know this miracle we have to study this age and the main theme of this age, the main themeof this age is science, technology, logic, etc.So the miracle that would accompany the revelation should be tangible to that theme, superiorto it, and cant be reproduced by humans and thus clearly indicating that it is from Allah Allmighty and humans can understand that it is a miracle but cant produce itAND HERE COMES THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SCIENTIFIC DIMENSION OF THE NOBLEQURAN because in this dimension there is the continuing miracle of the Noble Quran forthis age in the Noble Quran there are more than 6000 verses about a 1000 talk aboutscience and Allah willing you see the importance of this scientific layer of the Noble Quran.The level of science in the signs of Allah is something that could be understood by science themain theme of this age but the level of this science cant be reproduced by humans, whichshows the magnificence of the creator (Allah) all Mighty and helps to establish the truthfulnessof Allahs words in the Noble Quran and message of Islam.This also shows the mercy of God (Allah) all mighty because a person living in Iceland orEngland now knowing Arabic language cant appreciate the use of Arabic language in theQuran and that is a valid argument, but this barrier is broken by the scientific miracles in theNoble Quran because when I speak to someone and show him the perfect science in Allahscreation which is exactly mentioned in the Noble Quran, the Quran touches his heart and thelanguage barrier is broken. (As another sign of the mercy of the creator Allah (God) all Mighty)

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    The concept of the continuing miracle of the Noble Quran is clear in the statement by

    Allah All mighty in the Noble Quran Sorat Fussilt (Ayah 53.), A promise of Allah sobhanowa ta3la that Allah will show humans Allahs Ayat (Signs, revelation, proofs, evidences,

    etc.) in the Universe and in themselves, such that it will become clear to people that the

    Quran is the truth, SO WE SEE HERE THE SUNNAH OF ALLAH, ALLAH WILL SHOW YOU

    HIS SIGNS SUCH THAT HUMANS WILL KNOW THAT THE QURAN IS THE TRUTH (THE

    PURPOSE OF A CONTINUING MIRACLE TO STRENGTHEN THE BELIEVERS AND GUIDE

    THE NON BELIEVERS TO THE PATH OF ALLAH AND ESTABLISH THE TRUTHFULNESS OF

    ALLAH SOBHANO WA TA3LAL WORDS AND REVELATIONS).

    And then look at the infinite wisdom of Allah, Allah asks a question isnt it sufficient to

    convince people that Allah is witness over all things Allah told you what happened in the

    past which is confirmed by historians, and what is happening now and we are living it,

    and what will happen in the future and indications are pointing the truthfulness of that.

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    Now lets explore this miracle that accompanies the final revelation to mankind (i.e.

    scientific miracles in the Noble Quran).

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    The first word to be revealed from the vast volume of the Noble Quran isAqra

    meaning read, seek knowledge .. so we can see the emphasis on knowledge from thefirst word of the Noble Quran (Because Allah (God) all Mighty in his infinite wisdom

    knows that this age will come and knowledge and science will be the main theme of

    this age). Read in the name of your lord who created. Now the second verse to be

    revealed in the Noble Quran is a scientific statement (Allah (God) created humans from

    Alaq) this is like saying water boils at a 100 Degrees under a certain pressure. It is a

    clear scientific statement. Again the emphasis on science.

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    So lets explore this scientific statement . Alaq has three meaning:

    the first is something that clings and if we look at the human embryo attached to theinner wall of the womb we see the perfect match between the Quranic description

    and what is found today (1400 years after the revelation and in the time of

    Mohammad (pbuh) microscopes were not invented and the length of the embryo at

    this stage is about 200 micrometers which is impossible to see this level of details with

    the level of science at the time of Prophet Mohammad pbuh)

    The second meaning of Alaq is something like a leech and we can see the similarities

    between the embryo at this stage and a leech. Also the leech feeds on the blood of the

    host exactly as the embryo feeds on the blood of the mother.

    The third meaning of Alaq is a clot of blood: If you look at the embryo shape at this

    stage in the development and its sacs it is like a blood clot (this is because of the

    presence of large amount of blood and this blood does not circulate till the 3rd week

    of development so it is like a blood clot.

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    A feature in Allahs signs to mankind is that they are not just signs to be wowed by but

    there is a very important message in all of them (to learn from) and this can be seen inthese verses from the Glorious Quran Allah (God) states that Allah brought fourth from

    the earth and the analogy is given to the growth of plants and trees (i.e. Allah states

    that Allah makes you grow exactly like plants do) then Allah will return you into the

    earth and bring you forward again on the day of resurrection.

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    So lets explore this correlation between humans and plants mentioned in the Noble

    Quran.

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    On the left is a picture of human embryo cloning to the inner wall of the womb, if we

    compare this to a plant embryo within a plant seed which will be the plant or tree, Allglory to Allah you can see the exact match and similarity between the two

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    Also we have here on the left a picture of a plant seed. The picture on the right is not

    another view of the seed but actually it is the human embryo at a certain stage duringits development. We can see All glory to God the truthfulness of Allahs words at

    every level and scale.

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    Also taking this to the macroscopic level .. on the left is a cross section in a tree stem,

    the picture on the right is not an enlarged view of the picture of the left but actually thisis the basic building block of bone .. the similarities is not only in shape but in the

    location of cells, nutrients, etc.

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    What can be learned from this sign of Allah all Mighty..

    As easy as you see a plant growing in the same way you are brought forth by the abilityof Allah all Mighty.

    Allah all Mighty is showing his magnificence and power in creation, that is so easy to

    Allah (God) all Mighty to create new life, death, new life as easy as planting a seed.

    So Allah (God) all Mighty is showing us his attributes (the creator, the all Mighty) and

    making these signs crystal clear to humans because the objective is guidance and not

    confusion.

    Allah (God) states in the Noble Quran that Allah sends down signs, proofs, evidences,

    revelations to bring you from darkness into light and Allah (God) is surely full of kindness

    to you.

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    Please I would like to reiterate that the objective today is not to hurt your feelings or

    to insult you but to show the truth and make it prevail. To compare the bible and theQuran in the light of science, in the Bible it is written in Job chapter 10, verse 9 the

    statement is made there that humans are made of clay, in the Quran Allah (God) all

    Mighty states the same that humans are made of clay. Allah guided me to the proof of

    this statement from scientific point of view (and me showing you that it is stated in the

    bible it should God willing that the objective off my presentation is not to hurt you or

    reject the bible completely) no but to show you the truth and what happened to the

    bible you hold and believe in.

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    One of the proofs of this statement from science can be seen by comparing the minerals

    found in clay and that in the human body and plants, perfect match and even thepercentage of these minerals for example calcium is the most abundant mineral in soil

    and clay which is also the most abundant mineral in plant and humans.

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    To continue this comparison between the bible and the Quran, the bible then says that

    humans are poured like milk and curdled like cheese, this statement is not found in theQuran at all (if you search the Quran cover to cover this analogy poured like milk and

    curdled like cheese is not to be found). The question arises why is it not there?

    At first instance it might look innocent lets explore this which will uncover deeper

    insights Allah willing..

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    Doing some research to find the source of this expression (this additional information

    where does it come from?) Exactly the same expression relating to curdling like cheeseis found in Aristotles book (on the generations of animals) which is part of the ancient

    Greek science and philosophy, then the next step was to check who wrote the chapter

    (JOB) and in turns out to be Paul the most influential writer in the bible. And Paul was

    heavily influenced by Greek medicine and philosophy.

    This is very serious that there are additions to the words of God by men and the

    source is Greek science and medicine, it is very serious that men are adding to the

    words of God but not only that there is a deeper reason behind this..

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    One main concept that differs the Muslims from Christians is the idea of trinity, it is

    found in the teachings of the bible but not in the Quran and the Quran speaks againstthis idea that stop saying trinity, God is one and has no partners (no partner in Jesus

    pbuh and no partner in the holy ghost), God is one (his personal name is Allah), Jesus

    pbuh is one mighty prophet, and the holy Ghost is the arch angle Gabriel who

    delieverd the revelation to prophet Mohammad pbuh.

    So where does this concept come from, again the most reasonable place to start

    searching is Greek philosophy and there they have this concept of Triune God imported

    (taken) from ancient Babylonian and Assyrian myths (who where in ignorance and

    superstition)

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    So now we can see why Paul integrated these erroneous Greek science remarks in the

    bible, it is not as innocent as it looked, Paul wanted to give strength to these conceptsin Christianity like trinity, because these ideas on their own they cant hold, so

    reinforcement of these ideas is made by integrating these Greek science ideas.

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    The second topic is regarding Jesus pbuh In Islam and Christianity

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    I think it is helpful to clarify the Muslim position on prophet Jesus pbuh, Islam is the only

    non Christian faith that makes it an article of faith to believe in Jesus, no Muslim is aMuslim if he or she does not believe in Jesus pbuh as a prophet of God (Allah) all

    Mighty.

    We believe that Jesus pbuh is a prophet of God, That Jesus pbuh was a word that Allah

    (God) all Mighty bestowed upon Mary, we also believe that Jesus received a revelation

    from Allah (God) all mighty and this revelation Jesus preached but he did not have a

    book under his arm, whatever was revealed to him he preached. We believe that Jesus

    pbuh preached the worship of pure monotheism not trinity (not a triune God) calling

    the sons of Israelto the worship of Allah God All Mighty.

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    I will not take the line of saying that we believe Jesus pbuh is a prophet and tell you you

    have to believe it like that without proof but I will Allah (God) willing backup each andevery statement about Jesus pbuh by proof to show the truthfulness of each point I

    mentioned about Jesus pbuh, The first point which is that Jesus pbuh was a prophet and

    nothing more than a prophet.

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    I already showed this flow and the Sunnah (way) of God Al-Mighty in revealing the

    message to mankind, Just wanted to remind you of this, and we also said that themessage of Islam and the Noble Quran is not only for the people of Arabia but for All

    Mankind till the day of judgment. And the message of Jesus was only to the sons of

    Israel only and a proof of that is Jesus saying and doing actions to establish the law

    (torah) which was sent to the sons of Israel only (not to the Arabs, Romans, Pharisees,

    etc.)

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    I already showed this flow and the Sunnah (way) of God Al-Mighty in revealing the

    message to mankind, Just wanted to remind you of this, and we also said that themessage of Islam and the Noble Quran is not only for the people of Arabia but for All

    Mankind till the day of judgment. And the message of Jesus was only to the sons of

    Israel only and a proof of that is Jesus saying and doing actions to establish the law

    (torah) which was sent to the sons of Israel only (not to the Arabs, Romans, Pharisees,

    etc.)

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    It is illogical to think of Jesus pbum to be more than a prophet, why?

    That it is against Allah (God) all Mighty sunnah (way) in sending the revelation as yousaw in previous slides.

    Another reason that Allah (God) did not send any prophet as more than a man because

    there is a reason and mercy behind this because if Allah sends any creature which has

    superhuman abilities like an angle or more than a man as claims are given to Jesus, how

    could you relate to him, if he feels pain does he really.. seriously you dont believe

    that.

    And how could he teach people about patience because he is not entirely human so

    how could he experience patience.

    For example prophet Job (pbuh) experienced 18 years of illness, why? Because God All

    mighty is telling us if Allahs prophets and messengers this is happening to them you

    must have patience over what you are going through And if prophet Job endured this

    long painful illness this means you can do human , this example could be extended to

    Jesus pbuh when he was persecuted by the Jews and Romans and endured hardship to

    deliver the message of God ifhe is more than a prophet did he really endured that

    because if he was more than a man he could obliterate his opposition at any time .

    So it does not add up . There is a big flaw in the argument.

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    Now we come to the another point to the birth of Jesus pbuh, in Islam as mentioned in

    the Noble Quran that it is a word that Allah bestowed upon Mary, Allah (God) willing inthe next slides you will see how this is possible and the truthfulness of Allahs words

    by physical proof something you can feel not (guesswork or fiction)..

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    The angles ofAllah (God) all Mighty told Mary that God chose you, purified you, and

    chose you above the women of all nations (there is no such tribute to the mother ofJesus in the bible)

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    The angles ofAllah (God) all Mighty told Mary that God chose you, purified you, and

    chose you above the women of all nations (there is no such tribute to the mother ofJesus in the bible)

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    The angles gave the glad tiding the happy news to Mary peace be upon her, what is this

    good news (a word from Allah to you) this word will be called the Messiah Jesus theson of Mary held in honour in this world and in the hear after and one of those who will

    close to Allah (God) all Mighty.

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    Still going through the sequence of the birth of Jesus pbuh, then Mary peace be upon

    her replied saying how can I have a son when no man has touched me, the reply is thatAllah creates what he wishes, when Allah wants to create anything Allah (God) all

    Mighty wills it and the creature comes into being. Be and it is.

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    Now to show Allah (God) willing how the birth of Jesus pbuh is possible physically with

    real tangible proof, to start with DNA molecule the DNA molecule in the human body isa double stranded helix containing instructions on how to build proteins in your body

    which are the building blocks of your hair, bones, skin, etc.. if you look at this helical

    structure and compare it with the pattern of leafs growing around the stem of a plant

    we can see the same pattern between the two, as we said earlier that Allah states in the

    Noble Quran that Allah has brought you forth from the earth exactly like plants and

    trees grow)

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    Now to show Allah (God) willing how the birth of Jesus pbuh is possible physically with

    real tangible proof, to start with DNA molecule the DNA molecule in the human body isa double stranded helix containing instructions on how to build proteins in your body

    which are the building blocks of your hair, bones, skin, etc.. if you look at this helical

    structure and compare it with the pattern of leafs growing around the stem of a plant

    we can see the same pattern between the two, as we said earlier that Allah states in the

    Noble Quran that Allah has brought you forth from the earth exactly like plants and

    trees grow)

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    These instructions stored in the DNA molecule are read and used to produce machinery

    to synthesis proteins in the human body, exactly like a factory.

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    And this is described in the Noble Quran that in whatever form Allah willed Allah

    assembled you together (like a process of assembly) and you can see one of the basicbuilding blocks of the human body amino acids in which the atoms are assembled

    according to Allah (God) all Mighty instructions stored in the DNA (this message) rolled

    up like a scroll.

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    After these amino acids are produced according to the instructions within the DNA

    molecule (the words of Allah (God) all Mighty), these amino acids separately have nofunctional importance like separate letters.

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    Then these amino acids are strung together according to Allahs command and

    instructions (words) and proteins are produced these proteins can be thought of aswords (which have functional importance), and this is emphasised in the Noble Quran

    Allah (God) all Mighty states in the Noble Quran in the beginning of some chapters

    some letters (discrete letters) and then the chapter starts (if you pick up a translation

    of the Quran) it states that these letters are miracles and signs of Allah and they are

    as such, the creator (God) all Mighty is telling us look at these letters these are the

    letters of your alphabet, look how Allah strings (assembles) them together to form

    words (exactly like the human body where amino acids these letters are assembled

    into words) to produce something functional (you understand words) and your skin,

    bones, hair have important functions to perform.

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    Then these words are further assembled into sentences a higher level of functionality,

    by the same token the assembly of bones, skin, hair, a complete human being is theresult, Thus the creation of the human body is a word of Allah all Mighty in every

    stage in the creation of the human body, these words dictate the amino acids,

    proteins, assembly of these proteins, characteristics of a human (the colour of the

    eyes, hair, skin, so forth)

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    Now these proteins are produced then the shaping of the human is done in the womb,

    Please notice here that before 41 days after conception it is difficult to distinguishhuman features in the embryo, but there is a transition after 42 days such that the

    embryo has human features.

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    Prophet Mohammad (pbuh) who received revelation from Allah (God) all Mighty states

    that after 42 nights have passed on the conception Allah sends an angle according toAllahs command that shapes the embryo look after 42 days the same transition

    where human features are seen . So the shaping is done by an angle (holy ghost if

    you like and this happens to each and every human in his creation)

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    So what is stated in the Noble Quran that Jesus pbuh is a word of Allah bestowed onto

    Mary this word contains the information needed to assemble the amino acids intoproteins, and this proteins are assembled into Jesus pbuh skin, hair, eyes, etc. his

    characteristics as a human (as it happens to each and every human in his creation)

    Shaping of Jesus pbuh is done in the womb by an angle (holy ghost) as it happens to

    each and every human. So you can feel the truthfulness of Allahs words.. by physical

    proof, tangible evidence to the truthfulness of Allah sobhano wa ta3ala words not

    guesswork, not fiction and statements with no proof and illogical. Allah (God) teaches

    us to show proof, evidence, sign with any statement, because if the heavens and the

    earth were left to the guesswork, fiction of humans they would have been destroyed,

    so Allah is giving guidance and supports it with miracles.

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    That was the words of Allah (God) all Mighty and physical proof, miracle, signs to

    support it, now to see what the bible says about the conception and birth of Jesus pbuh,in Luke the picture is described, that the Holy spirit will come upon you and the power

    of the Most High will overshadow you, When you read this you get the mental image

    and picture as to how the holy spirit came upon Mary and how did the most High

    overshadowed her, the language (who contaminated the bible wanted to establish

    the notion that Jesus pbuh is the son of God) so the picture is drawn to reflect what

    happens between a man and a woman, the language will come upon thee. But why

    anyone or anything wants to do that? The answer is found in the Noble Quran

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    In response to this God (Allah) all Mighty states in the Noble Quran that they say the

    Jews they say that Uzir (ezra) is the son of God (Allah) and the Christians say that Jesus isthe son of Allah (God), Allah says they you have said a horrible terrible thing (the worst

    swearing you can swear God with is this) (you are assigning an animal act to the

    creator) Allah (God) says that if the heavens had feelings like you hearing these words

    being uttered they would have fallen and the earth split ascender and the mountains fall

    in utter ruins that people ascribed offspring to the most High.

    It does not suit the majesty of God to beget offspring, everything in the heavens and

    earth will come to he most merciful as a servant.

    So the answer to the question as to why anyone or anything wants to ascribe to the

    creator a son? Is to destroy the person believing in this and to make the anger of the

    creator to be on him (basically to deprive him happiness in this life and in the

    hereafter)

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    The third topic in this debate is resurrection from an Islamic and Christian point of view.

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    From an Islamic point of view the resurrected body will be this physical body with no

    illnesses (not a spirit) having full functional senses (i.e. the person will feel pain, joy, etc.)the same feelings and emotions a person feels now.

    Every human will be accounted for his or her deeds, and as a sign of mercy from the

    creator (God) all Mighty the physical mechanisms describing how resurrection will

    happen is explained in the Noble Quran and can be seen all around us which will be

    shown in the coming slides Allah willing .. because the objective is guidance and

    not confusion.

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    And in the coming slides we will see Allah willing further and further the truthfulness of

    Allahs promise in showing people his signs, revelations, evidences, proofs, etc. in theuniverse and in themselves to feel the truthfulness of Allahs words in the Noble Quran.

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    In the coming slides aphysical proof will be given Allah willing to show how

    resurrection will be validating each point mentioned about resurrection from anIslamic point of viewThe physical mechanism of the day of resurrection is explained in

    the Noble Quran in this verse which states that Allah (God) all Mighty in order to revive

    a dead land Allah sends the wind to raise up clouds and Allah moves the clouds to a

    dead land and rain falls down and Allah revives the earth after its death and exactly in

    the same manner the resurrection will be.

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    These are the steps describing the physical mechanisms that will be utilised in the

    resurrection of humans.

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    Allah in the Noble Quran states the process of cloud formation. Allah uses the wind to

    drive the clouds then Allah joins them, then Allah makes it as heap of layers and raincomes from between these layers.

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    Allah in the Noble Quran states the process of cloud formation. Allah uses the wind to

    drive the clouds then Allah joins them, then Allah makes it as heap of layers and raincomes from between these layers.

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    Recent knowledge of cloud formation and rain fall correlates exactly what is found in the

    Noble Quran which was revealed 1400 years ago, on the left is a picture which showshow the wind drives cloud fragments into the desired region and on the right we see

    these small cloud fragments moving towards the mixing zone and then a heap of layers

    (clouds) results and rain falls down exactly as described in the Noble Quran.

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    Then the rain (falls onto the soil) and mixes with the nutrients and minerals (like

    calcium, magnesium, Potassium), so now there is soil water (water mixed with organicsubstance, minerals, etc.)

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    At this stage we have water in the soil, and what remains of the human body in the

    grave after the body is disintegrated into the soil is the tailbone. the only bone thatremains in the grave is the bone at the lower end of the spine.

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    Here is a comparison between the shape of a tailbone in humans that remains in the

    grave and a plant seed we can see the astounding similarity between the two.

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    If we compare the characteristics of a plant seed and the tailbone, we can see that from

    an anatomical and physiological point of view there is a perfect match between the two,for example, within the tailbone there are living cells that remain in the tailbone after

    death, as the seed has living cells within it, within the cells in these tailbones there is

    DNA which contains God words as to the assembly of that human his characterises

    (hair, skin, bones, etc.), so you will be resurrected with the same shape, AND BOTH

    THE SEED AND THE TAILBONE NEED SOIL WATER TO GROW.

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    Imagine this cube is a piece of soil and within it is a seed and likewise the tailbones of

    humans.

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    When water comes into contact with the seed and likewise the tailbone of humans and

    being energised by vibrations from the earth, they are energised and cells start to divideby in taking minerals and nutrients from the soil water which these living cells need to

    divide and differentiate, in the same manner living cells within humans need

    minerals, water, and organic material to grow (you can see the perfect similarity

    between the two).. when the seed comes in contact with water root hairs are

    excited as you can see here, soil water is channelled through these hairs. Supplying

    the seed with water and nutrients.. if we compare these root hairs of seeds with the

    organ in the human body which absorbs water and nutrients (i.e. small intestines)

    shown here on the right we see that there are hairs that absorbs water and nutrients

    exactly like the hairs on seeds.

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    When water comes into contact with the seed and likewise the tailbone of humans and

    being energised by vibrations from the earth, they are energised and cells start to divideby in taking minerals and nutrients from the soil water which these living cells need to

    divide and differentiate, in the same manner living cells within humans need

    minerals, water, and organic material to grow (you can see the perfect similarity

    between the two).. when the seed comes in contact with water root hairs are

    excited as you can see here, soil water is channelled through these hairs. Supplying

    the seed with water and nutrients.. if we compare these root hairs of seeds with the

    organ in the human body which absorbs water and nutrients (i.e. small intestines)

    shown here on the right we see that there are hairs that absorbs water and nutrients

    exactly like the hairs on seeds.

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    After this seed or tailbone is energised cell division starts and differentiation occurs, if

    we compare human cell and that of a plant cell (they have exactly the samecomponents), if we compare the stages of cell division of those of a plant seed and that

    of a human we can see the perfect correlation between the two.

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    After this seed or tailbone is energised cell division starts and differentiation occurs, if

    we compare human cell and that of a plant cell (they have exactly the samecomponents), if we compare the stages of cell division of those of a plant seed and that

    of a human we can see the perfect correlation between the two.

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    After that Allah shapes both the embryo in the seed and the human embryo and if we

    look at the upper region of the embryo which will eventually grow into upper arms,while in the plant embryo it will grow into upper branches, and the lower regions in the

    embryo grows into lower extremities while in the plant embryo it will grow into the

    roots.

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    Looking again at the stages of the development of human embryo, during development

    and especially after 42 nights, you can see the distribution of bio-mass (i.e. how muchmass (living mass cells, blood vessels, etc.)) is in your arms, thighs, head, etc.

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    This distribution of bio-mass remains throughout adult life and it is like the distribution

    of bio-mass is similar in trees where in the centre of the trunk there is the maximumamount of bio-mass and likewise in humans, in the branches and arms the same

    percentages of bio-mass.

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    Placing this seed into the soil it interacts with vibratory energy from the earth and soil

    water (it gets energised) and this is the picture of energy flux from the seed which is theskeleton that the plant will grow upon, and you can see the correlation between this

    energy skeleton and the actual shape of the tree.

    Likewise putting the tailbone into the soil exactly the same mechanism occurs and here

    is the resulting energy skeleton, if we compare this energy skeleton with the skeleton of

    a human you can see the exact match between the two.

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    To validate this model describing this energy skeleton on which the human or plant will

    grow I need a physical experiment, now since the model predicts how bone will beorganised in space (and likewise wood) then comparing the predictions shown here in

    these lines with the morphology of bone (the shape, architecture of bone) we see the

    correlation with the two which establishes this model.

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    And if we compare the result of these processes in the human bones and wood we can

    see and feel the truthfulness of Allahs words.

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    For example comparing leafs which can be considered as the skin of the plants, with

    human skin showed on the right we can see the truthfulness of Allahs words in thelocation of the cells, conduits to transfer water and nutrients.

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    Comparing the nerve cells in humans with the shape of a tree we can see the perfect

    analogy between the two.

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    Now to see resurrection from a Christian perspective.

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    Now to see resurrection from a Christian perspective, in first Corinthians there was a

    direct question which was asked to Paul about the status of the resurrected body, andthe answer is clear (((what is sown (meaning buried) as a natural body meaning this

    body is raised a spiritual body))), this is confirmed in the verse coming after it which

    says that flesh and bones cant inherit the kingdom of God.

    So from a Christian perspective the resurrected body is a spirit and this contradicts the

    Noble Quran and not only that.

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    The bible contradicts itself because in genesis 2 and 3, where there is a description of

    Adam pbuh, it is clear that Adam pbuh ate from the forbidden tree (now eating is arequirement of this physical body not a spirit so Adam in the kingdom of God in

    heaven ate so he was flesh and bones while paul teaches that the resurrected body

    which will be in heaven is a spirit)..

    Contradictions within contradictions .. but the Quran gives a clear answer, and can

    be proven by science because the objective is guidance and not confusion as it is not

    the case with the bible.

    And please if somebody can ask me in the questions and answers session why this

    was preached by paul that the resurrected body will be a spirit and not flesh and

    bones, I will be more than happy to answer and it is not as innocent as it sounds.

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    I am completely convinced that St. Paul was hearing voices and seeing visions not from

    himself but from an external source.. I completely believe this.. but what I stronglydisagree on that the source of these voices and visions is not God (Allah) or Jesus pbuh

    (So what is this external source?)

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    The source of the voices and visions St. Paul experienced is the same source that is

    whispering to you (you hear them as voices in your head as if your own self it talkingto you . As if you are thinking and talking to yourself) a voice telling you while you

    are seeing this presentation telling you things like:

    What is he talking about ? you cant understand it so dont listen.

    Remember Jesus as your saviour.. hell. Dont listen to a single word he says

    otherwise you will go to hell.

    In addition to other things (it is like a voice in your head similar to your voice, even the

    speed of your speech, the languages you speak) to make you think it is true and that you

    should agree to it and that it makes sense.

    It is like someone or something is trying to stop you benefiting from this lecture, to blind

    you and other more dangerous motives.

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    The source of these voices you are hearing is the cursed one Satan and I would like to

    clarify something very important which is that Satan is a creature and not a mythicalcreature like a unicorn, he is a creature made of fire not clay like humans (the angles

    were created from fire), and this creature thinks, gets frightened, feel emotions and

    pain. And with every human there is a qreen a devil that whispers these thoughts to

    him, and prophet Mohammad (pbuh) said that this devil circulates in our body like blood

    flows which means that he knows what makes you laugh, cry, what you did, etc.

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    Allah (God) states the effect of Satan on humans, that that cursed one befools (tricks)

    humans with his voice (this voice that you hear in your head but he changes it to matchyour voice and the language you speak because if he spoke with a different voice you

    would recognise him)

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    Allah (God) exposes that cursed one like an open book, Allah says that the cursed one

    commands you what is evil and sinful (these whispers are always against Allahsguidance and drives you to commit adultery and he gives it beautiful names), also he

    commands you to say about Allah what you dont have knowledge of.

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    Evidences (proofs) of Satans influence in the bible by the people who wrote it, for

    example, whispering that Allah (God) begets son which is something horrible and causesthe anger of the creator to be on the human who believes in this to destroy that human

    (Satan is an open enemy for you as Allah states in the Noble Quran)

    Distorting the image of God (Allah) all Mighty and Jesus pbuh, Picturing Gods prophets

    as committing adultery (like David desiring a naked woman), pornographic material like

    Ezkiel ch. 23 which was band in South Africa. (This chapter is band in South Africa not

    knowing it is part of the bible), perverted sexual actions like there are 10 cases of incest

    in the bible.

    Another deception he played on Christians is in salvation by the death of Jesus pbuh and

    in whispering ideas like see how Christianity is so easy to do I can commit adultery and

    just by believing in Jesus as a personal saviour I am saves (This must be right) and blinds

    you from the commands of Allah (God) that every human will be asked about his or

    her deeds.

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    This same enemy is the one causing you to have depression by whispering thoughts of

    despair and sadness like thoughts like your life means nothing, you are nothing andworthless which drives you to depression but you dont know the source of these

    whispers and you think that they are true (an enemy for you).

    Pushing people to commit suicide with these whispers telling him things like why you

    are living, kill yourself it is better on the other side.

    Can start at early as age 7 (which causes torment to children and million of children are

    having psychiatric treatment)

    Also he is whispering all these thoughts to cause you to indulge more and more in

    drinking and gambling destroying your health and wasting your money.. and still you

    are agreeing with him in assigning sons to the creator and believing in his lies.

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    Allah (God) says this in the Noble Quran, that when this is said onto you that follow the

    truth that Allah (God) has sent down you say we will follow what we found our fathersworshipping, and Allah states would you do this and Satan is inviting you to the torment

    of fire. (his deception, tricks, and listening to his lies).

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