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M H RPETOLOGI AL SOCIETY OCTOBER NEWSLETTER NOVEt1BER MEETING Friday, November 7, 1986 7:00 PH Room 335, Borlaug Hall St. Paul Campus, University of Minnesota VOLUME VI ,NUMBER 10 \ wm r t m The November meeting will be something a little different from Ollr regular pro- grams. For this one, the MHS Board will do a "Creature Feature" program. All of the Board members will show one of their personal critters and give a short talk about it. This could prove to be interesting! He will also have our nevJ MHS display board for all to see. Refer to fY1HS Newsletter Voltnne VI, Number page 10 on this. There will be no "Critter of the Honth"! See you there. On Saturday, November 8, ltle will have the behind the scenes tour of the Science Huseum of Minnesota. Please note this is a change from what was stated in last month's Net-vsletter Come and meet some of the people that make the Scie,nce Museum of Minnesota run and the projects they are working on, A behind the scenes tour has been scheduleg for Saturday morning, 8th. will meet at 9:30 in the main corridor of the old btdlding by the dinosaur and the 01ildrens' Theater. You may park on the street or in the parldng rrunp on Exchange Street:-. The tour is free! Please see the map on the following page if you have any questions of direction! Snakebite Emergency Hennepin Regional Posion Center BELL MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY 10 CHURCH STREET S.E. • MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA 55455-0104

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Transcript of Vol. 6 (1986), No. 10

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M H RPETOLOGI AL SOCIETY

OCTOBER NEWSLETTER

NOVEt1BER MEETING

Friday, November 7, 1986 7:00 PH Room 335, Borlaug Hall

St. Paul Campus, University of Minnesota

VOLUME VI ,NUMBER 10

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The November meeting will be something a little different from Ollr regular pro­grams. For this one, the MHS Board will do a "Creature Feature" program. All of the Board members will show one of their personal critters and give a short talk about it. This could prove to be interesting! He will also have our nevJ MHS display board for all to see. Refer to fY1HS Newsletter Voltnne VI, Number !~, page 10 on this. There will be no "Critter of the Honth"! See you there.

On Saturday, November 8, ltle will have the behind the scenes tour of the Science Huseum of Minnesota. Please note this is a change from what was stated in last month's Net-vsletter

Come and meet some of the people that make the Scie,nce Museum of Minnesota run and the projects they are working on,

A behind the scenes tour has been scheduleg for Saturday morning, t~ovember 8th. ~Je will meet at 9:30 in the main corridor of the old btdlding by the dinosaur and the 01ildrens' Theater. You may park on the street or in the parldng rrunp on Exchange Street:-. The tour is free!

Please see the map on the following page if you have any questions of direction!

Snakebite Emergency Hennepin Regional Posion Center

612-347-31t~1

BELL MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY

10 CHURCH STREET S.E. • MINNEAPOLIS, MINNESOTA 55455-0104

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EXCilANGE STREET

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The October meeting was well attended once again! We had a grand total of 94! It sure is nice (and rewarding) to see so many making their way to the meeting place on a regular basis. This is how the MHS Board knows that their hard work is paying off! Thanks!

The highlight of the evening was Dave Hoppe's video on snake feeding. His apt descriptions of the behaviors involved were stiIm.llating. For those of you who have never heard and seen a snake belch, you really missed out. We will try and have this again sometime in the near future! Thanks, Dave! The tape on the Alli­gator Snapping Turtle, "Something Nobody Else Has", was also interesting. John Moriarty's slides of the SSAR meetings (and associated salamanders) and of the recent MHS picnic also had merit. All in all it was an interesting evening!

MHS VENOMOUS SNAKE/ANTIVENIN SURVEY

On the following page you will find a request from Carl Hornfeldt and Dan Keyler for information on venomous snakes. Please take the ,time to read this over and give it some serious thought. If you keep ''hot'" species, think about filling it out and sending it in. Note this can be done anonymously! Be aware of the fact that there are over 100 different antivenins listed in the most recent issue of the Antiven Index (1986) published by the American Association of Zoological Parks and Aquariums. These are manufactured by over 40 different sources. Some of these antivenins are species specific! Do you know what particular anti­venin you would need in an emergency? Do you know where you might find it?

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HENNEPIN

Hennepin County>Medical Center 701 Park Avenue South Minneapolis, Minnesota 55415

October 8, 1986

MHS, VENOMOUS SNAKE/ANTIVENIN SURVEY

While most MHS members have relatively harmless domestic or exotic species in their collections, some individuals maintain venomous species. The purpose of this survey is to determine if specific antivenins needed to treat venomous snakebite victims are readily accessible. For those antivenins not in stock at Hennepin County Medical Center, it can then be determined where and how to acquire an appropriate antivenin from another source. The ultimate goal is to insure that MHS members with venomous reptiles in- their collections will receive optimal medical treatment should a case of poisonous snakebite occur.

We would like to stress that we have no intention of using the information collected for legislative regulation purposes.

Please answer the following questions anonymously. Thank you for your assistance.

Carl S. Hornfeldt Daniel E. Keyler

1) What venomous species are in your collection? (We are interested in all venomous species maintained.)

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2) If you were accidentally bitten by a poisonous snake, would you be willing to be treated in an emergency room? Yes No --

3) If you knew that treatment of serious envenomation was difficult or impossible due to a lack of appropriate antivenin would you reconsider keeping certain venomous species. Yes No --

Please return completed survey at earliest convenience to:

Carl S. Hornfeldt Hennepin Regional Poison Center, 701 Park Avenue South, Minneapolis, Minnesota 55415.

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HENNEPIN C'OUNTY an equal opportunity employer

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MHS Banquet

On Saturday night, December 6, we will hold our first of what we hope will become an annual event, a Christmas banquet. The speaker that night will be Bob (nee Bib) Applegatge of El Cajon, California-. Bob is a well mown breeder of albino colubrids and tri-color kingsnakes. Bob will also be the speaker at our regular meeting on Frlday night, December 5. At the bottom of this page is a registrution blaru< for the banquet. If you plan to attend, please fill it out and either send it in or bring it to the November meeting. The deadline is that night! The cost is $10.50 for adults and $8.00 for 16 and under. "Little ones" may attend free provided they eat off their folk's plate (or any other if they can find one).

The menu will be the Viking Buffet. No, this doesn't mean the Chicago Bears! TIle buffet consists of pickled herring in wine sauce, roast slit€d tllrkey, Swedish meatballs, wild rice pilaf, green bean casserole, fruit and cabbage salad, as­sorted vegetable tray, julekage, pumpkin bread, butter, rye lcrisp, apple and cheese tray, and a beverage. Mints will be provided if a dessert has not been ordered. This buffet is advertised as being great for a group of out of state vis:i.tots and Minnesotans too. There is no truth to the rumor that Bob requested lutefisk!

We hope to see you there~~1.·

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Make checks payable to Minnesota Herpetological Society

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Phantastic Phenological Phinds

Dennis Daly, Craig Allman, and Rick Olson Sept. 21, 1986-Minnesota, Isanti Co., County Road 40.

6 Blanding's Turtle (Emydoidea blandingi). 3 were D.O.R. amd 3 were alive and assisted off the road. 12:30 to 2:00 PM, 73 degrees F, overcast skies. Hatchlings.

4 Tiger Salamander (Ambystoma tirginum). Assisted off the road. 2 Wood Frog (Rana sylvatica). 1 Prairie Skink (Eumeces septentrionalis). Assisted off the road.

Sept.21, 1986-Minnesota, Isanti Co., County Road 17. 2:00 to 3:00 PM. 8 Spring Peeper (Hyla crucifer). 2 Gray Tree Frog (Hyla versicolor). D.O.R. 2 Tiger Salamander (Ambystoma tigrinum). 1 D.O.R., 1 assisted off road.

Sept. 21, 1986-Minnesota, Anoka Co., tliway 47 2 miles north of County 22. 5:15 PM. 6 Western Painted Turtle (Chrysemys picta belli). All D.O.R. 1 Red Bellied Snake (Storeria occipitomaculata). D.O.R.

Rick Olson Sept. 22, 1986-Minnesota, S~lver Lake Road and Mississippi Street, New Brighton.

1 Common Snapping Turtle (Chelydra serpentina). Hatchling, assisted off the road. 4:30 PM, partly sunny, 74 degrees F.

Jim Konrad Sept. 23, 1986-Minnesota, Carver Co., Laketown Township, T116N R24W Section 10". Carver Park on Auburn Lake access road. 10:00 AM, partly cloudy.

1 Brown Snake (Storeria dekayi). Found crossing the road. When it was picked up, it discharged its cloaca, coiled and hid its head, elevated tail and struck viciously. Lots of Garter Snakes ,and Red Bellies were also active.

Dan, Cheryl, and Trevor Keyler and Carl Hornfeldt Sept. 27, 1986-New Mexico, Santa Fe, Old Santa Fe Trail.

1 Mountain Patch Nosed Snake (Salvadora grahamiae). Caught crossing road. 3 Black Necked Garter Snake (TI1amnophis cyrtopsis). 5 Lesser Earless Lizard (Holbrookia maculata).

President Vt.ce-President Secret;e.ry Treasurer Newsletter Editor Member-at-Large Member-at-Large Member-at-Large Member-at-Large Immediate Past-President

MHS OFFICERS

Fran Frisch Ann Porwoll Andrea Oster Bruce Haig Jim Gerholdt Fred Bosman Bob Duerr Dan Keyler John Moriarty Bruce Delles

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WANTED

Wanted to be donated to Camp Confidence for the Handicapped: A young adult non­tropical snake, one that is not common to Minnesota. It will be used for a hands­on year round program. They had a bull snake 'for nine years that passed away this summer which was used in a prpmotional film and hands-on experiences. This do­nation can be used as a tax deduction. For information call David Weiner at 612-444-9775.

Help A Hapless Herp

We finally found a good home for the female Burmese Python. This was the only thing we had for adoption. As of right now, we have nothing lined up for the next meeting, but who knows what may come to pass by then? Stay tuned!

With more reptiles appearing in the local pet shops, MHS members should be con­scious of their conditions.

Be courteous to the dealers and/9r their clerks but point out problems if you see them. Offer them information on the animals or suggest books that would be help­ful.

Part of your responsibility in being a lover of herps is to educate the public anq to be aware of the herps in your community.

Ann Porwoll

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The other day, vvatching Goliath slither through the grass, these words carne to mind.

Seeing a snake slither through the grass is like watching a stream meander through a meadow. TI1.e scales, shiIID11erin~~ in the slllllight, remind me of the ripples in the water.

Toni Vangen

The Nature Conservancy, Minnesota Chapter, is seeking fllllds to help preserve the precious rmtural heritage of Mim1.esota. They have selected a Wood Turtle to illustrate their 1986 Landmark Appeal. The drawing is by Vera Ming Wong and the card appears below. If you want to help TNC, contact them at 1313 5th Street S.E., Minneapolis, MN 55414. 612-379-2134.

1986 LANDMARK APPEAL

Wood turtle (Clemmys insculptaJ an endangered Minnesota species. Drawing by Vera Ming Wong.

We finally have the long awaited official results of the First Annual Turtle Race at the Third Annual MHS Picnic held on August 17, 1986.

Turtles and Tortoises - Under 5" 1 - Rebecca Filler - "Cousteau" - Ornate Box Turtle 2 - Fran Frisch - "Seattle" - TIlree Toed Box Turtle 3 - Joanne Moriarty - "Box Top" - Three Toed Box Turtle Turtles and Tortoises - 5" and over 1 - Pat (?) - "Fang" - Eastern Box Turtle 2 - Fred and Liz Bosman - '~rgar~t" - Three Toed Box Turtle 3 - Chase Delles - "Hunter" - Eastern Box Turtle Extra Large 1 - Fred and Liz Bosman - "Sherman" - Leop£lrd Tortoise 2 - Joanne Moriarty - "Tortie" - Red Footed Tortoise

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CHELONIAN CLASSIX ••• Chapter Three

PERSONABLE PRETTY PAINTEDS

By Ellen·Nicol

"If the paunteds (Chrysemys picta ssp.) were foreign exotic turtles, imported and sold for hundreds of dollars, they would probably be high on the want list of many hobbyists. As it is, they originate in the United states, and are about as common as the slider species (Pseudemys ssp). The midland painted turtle (Chrysemys picta marginata) was the turtle of my childhood in upstate New lfork, more years ago than I care to realize. I used to catch the babies in Irondequoit Bay, along with baby snapping turtles (Chelydra serpentina) , whose eggs resemble ping-pong balls. Young as ·I was, my father always insisted on my caring for them properly, and when he saw that my interest was waning, we had a great "releasing day" at the bay shore, with a new batch of babies available again in spring when the urge to keep turtles as pets was upon me for another year.

When I began seriously collecting turtles as an adult, I recalled fC?ndly the little midlands. Later I learned there were four subspecies of Chrysemys picta: southern, (C.p. dorsalis); eastern, (C.p. picta); western, (C.p. belli), plus the midlands. At one time in Los Angeles, I had all four subsepcies, but now lack a true marginata. The subspecies apparently interbreed, and babies sometimes reveal mixed markings as a record of mating activities of previous generations.

Our current group of adult western and eastern paints are doing well. We had no southerns until a recent trip to Tampa where some hatchlings were obtained. About a year ago, about eight adult eastern painteds were salvaged from.a north Florida dealer. We picked tprough about a hundred pathetic individuals with vary­ing degrees of shell rot, skin lesions, bitten appendanges and general debilitation to come up with those with the best chance of recovery. All were thin and listless, obviously the result of long-standing neglect. One died, but the others are now lively, well fed and in outside ponds where they get their needed sunlight. It is a joy to see their sores healing and their eyes bright again. Possibly they will bre~d in 1987, but it may take more years for complete recover.q to result in breed­ing inclination and ability_

Nine years ago when I first came to Florida, a friend gave us a 'trio of young western painteds in very debilitated condition. For years it was an uphill battle to restor.e them to good health. I understand that these C. p. belli are "plentiful" in their area and are routinely sold by biological supply houses for use in medical research or for studen·ts to dissect to study anatomy. I am told the turtles are collected from the wild and then held for up to two years unfed and in a semi-hiberation state at 30°F, to suspend life functions, until they die or are· sold for research -- death in either case. This male and two females escaped that fate, and they have rewarded me by reproducing.

Courting had been noticed in recent years as they slowly regained their health. In 1985, I felt eggs in the largest female and then suddenly they were gon~. I was never able to locate the nest. In March 1986, I again felt eggs in both females (by palpation) I a'nd planned to induce oviposition by hormone injection rather than risk a repeat of last year's missing nest. Before doing so, the smallest female nested, and I retrieved three viable eggs.

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When they hatched in sixty days, all had undeveloped eyes (no vision),"a few e~tra plates and curled tails. They tried to feed and probably did eat a little, but I gave .them to a friend more patient than I and ~ith. fe~er turtles to tend. We agreed the alternative was euthanization, but only as a last resort.

I gave Oxytocin® to the larger female and left her in the kitchen sink. When we returned from town four hours later, there lay six eggs in the sihk welf, all viable at that time. They were set ,up in'incubation containers at 80-84°F, and they hatched in 53 days, all normal. Two had died early in de­velopment,'so four hatched. It is my beli~f that the larger of the females is theone' that had eggs last year, and the smaller female's eggs were her first clutch, 'which are often malformed. It may take several clutches by a young female before viable eggs, with normal hatchlings are produced. I have noticed this in breeding of other species as well.

The baby southern painteds have a more round shell than the westerns, which are more oval. Not knowing when the southerns hatched, there may be quite an age discrepancy, and the westerns are smaller at this time. At maturity, they should be close in size, with the males slightly smaller than females.

The three "eastern" subspecies are the most similar in appearance, having ripe olive catapadial coloring, red-orange marginal designs and ivory to coral plastron colors, with or' without a small dark pattern. The southern has a red stripe of varying widths and formation down the spine. Eastern and midland are the most similar, in my experience. However, the western form has a carapace color of green olive with fine ivory reticulations throughout. Some orange mayor may not show on the marginal scutes. In adults, the plastron ground color is orange to ivory, but in the hatchlings, the ground color is a bright coral.. The dar-.k pattern is extensive and generally symmetrical, resembling a Rorschach ink blot -- most attractive!

These turtles are quite easy to keep. They are not generally cold-sensitive, wiil eat a variety of foods, including carrion, are omnivorous, do not grow large, are perpetual motion, will slide off a log faster than a slider, but are curious and lively, will breed in captivity and are relatively inexpensive. They do need lots of calcium and Vitamin D. They spend most of their time basking in the sun.

Eventually, I will hope to acquire the one subspecies I miss, the midlands. Meanwhile, I have these little charmers to raise, and the satisfaction of knowing that three nearly dead westerns were saved that finally reproduced nine years later.

(Thanks to Bob Nicol for his input from long experiencel with painted turtles) EN) Rt. 1 Box 1367

Anthony, FL 32617 May 1986

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"Critter of the Month"

The "critter" for the October meeting was neonates of 1986. There were a lot of them and they were:

Rankin's Bearded Dragon (Amphibolurus rankini) Brown Basilisk (Basiliscus basiliscus) Common Snapping Turtle (Chelydra serpentina) Western Painted Turtle (Chrysemys picta belli) Wood Turtle (Clemnys insculpta) Six Lined Racenmner (Cnemidophorus sexlineatus) Tomato Frog (Discophus antongilli) Corn Snake (Elaphe g. guttata) Black Rat Snake (Elaphe o. obsoleta) - albino Gray Rat Snake (Elaphe obsoleta spiloides) Brazilian Rainbow Bow (Epicrates c. cenchria) Leopard Gecko (Eublepharis macularius) Red Footed Tortoise (Geochelone carbonaria) Yellow Footed Tortoise (Geochelone denticulata) Mississippi Map Turtle (Graptemys kohnii) Western Hognose Snake (Heterodon nasicus) Prairie Kingsnake (Lampropeltis c. calligaster) - hetero and albino California Kingsnake (Lampropeltis getulus californiae) - albino Speckled Kingsnake (Lampropeltis getulus holbrooki) - hetero and albino Black Kingsnake (Lampropeltis getulus niger) Black Desert Kingsnake (Lampropel tis getulus nigri ta) Gray Banded Kingsnake (Lampropeltis mexicana alterna) Red Milk Snake (Lampropeltis triangulum syspila) Carpet Python (Python spilotes) Ornate Box Turtle (Terrapene ornata) Nile Monitor (Varanus niloticus)

These were brought by:

Dean Bowman Dennis Daly Bruce Delles Becky Filler Fran Frisch Bruce Haig Aaron Hampton Dick Lauer John Meltzer Terry Odegaard Barney Oldfield Casey Oldfield Sherilyn Oldfield Toni Vangen Larry Yank

This was the most we have had in a long time. I apologize if I missed anyone. Thanks to all of the above (both bringers and broughtees) from MHS. Not only were there a lot, but IIlany were unusual.

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Herp Hints

John Moriarty commented on a sick adopted Box Turtle tlLat he had adopted that had had a rough time of it. He force fed it by tube with diluted Nutrical and that did the trick for it. It is now doing okay. Becky Filler also had a sick one she had taken to the vet. It took 3 months for it to perk up and for its eyes to open. Oral antibiotics did the job on this one. Bruce Haig mentioned a female Brown Basilisk that he had thought was gravid. What it was was her body cavity was full of fluids. She passed urates and is being treated with anti­biotics but is still bloated. Fran iRrisch said that warm water often works on his monitor to flush it out. His toad that was mentioned last month died. Al­though his male Golden Mantella died, the female laid approximately 30 eggs in a nest. After that she laid the same amount again. lIe thought maybe she was turned on by his stereo? Knowing his taste in music, I doubt it!

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rZristopher Anton see Robert Gibson 8327 Shadyview Lane N. Maple Grove, MN 55369 612-420-2503 New Member

Stacy Bauman see Joe Fishbein 2015 Itasca Ave. St. Paul, MN 55116 612-698-0198 New Member

Joseph De Vito also Becky, Gail, Gary, and Jill 19321 Herald Ct. Apple Valley, MN 55124 612-432-6492 New Members

Nanette Jimerson see Vince Jimerson 3201 5th Ave. S. Minneapolis, MN 55408 612-825-8035 Change

Chris Erickson 5004 Windy Meadow Plano, TX 75023 214-424-2768 New Member

Jeff Muehleck 2156 Heritage Lane New Brighton, MN 55112 612-633-3708 New Member

Patrick N. Thielen 712 Forest Dale Road New Brighton, MN 55112 612-633-5674 New Member

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Raffle

The raffle at the October meeting was the best we have ever had in our short but illustrious history. 'The total take for the MHS coffers was $55.00! A big thanks to all who participated. We had a lot of prizes and a lot of winners. A nice 2' x 2' x 4' cage was won by Melissa Hyatt, who also won a piece of glass still in its frame. Dennis Daly won a nice piece of turtle jewelry and Sue Blackburn won a similar piece, but hers was a frog. Vince Jimerson won a frog candle, Bob Duerr an aquariDn1 hood, and Fran F-risch won a 10 gallon aquarium complete with hood. We also had a junior raffle. The winners were Josh and Matt Yank (large gummy rat), Jill De Vito (pumpkin), and Duffy Quenzer (Golden Nat­ure Guide).

Refreshments

The refreshments for the Octoher meeting were kindly supplied by Lar~l and Jane Yank. Thanks Yanks!

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Breeding Notes

Breedings from the October AAZPA Newsletter

Cincinnati Zoo 9 Honduran Milk Snake

Fort Worth Zoo 22 Yellow Spotted Amazon Turtle 5 African Fat Tailed Gecko 1 Central American Banded Gecko

15 Neotropical Rattlesnake 7 Children's Python

13 ~blan Milk Snake 7 Red Pygmy Rattlesnake

11 Horned Desert Viper 7 Ornate Cantil 2 South African Ground Gecko 2 Dwarf Crocodile 3 Central American Rat Snake 4 Jalisco Milk Snake 5 Thayer's Kingsnake 2 Greer's Kingsnake 9 Long Tailed Tree Lizard

11 Sinaloan Milk Snake 9 Malagasy Boa

18 Jumping Viper 25 Carpet Python

National Zoo 1 Cuban Crocodile

Milwaukee County Zoo 1 Spotted Gecko

San Diego Zoo 2 Granite Night Lizard

Toledo Zoo 15 Virgin Island Boa 9 Wood Turtle

20 Haitian Forest Frog

Bronx Zoo 16 Kenya Sand Boa 6 Tentacled Water Snake

14 Chinese Alligator 6 Coahuilan Box Turtle

Dallas Zoo 14 White Lipped ~Jthon

7 Striped Tailed Pit Viper 8 Philippine Sail-Fin Dragon 2 Gray Banded Kingsnake 6 Honduran Kingsnake 7 Golden Mantella 5 Green and Black Poison Dart Frog 6 Pueblan Kingsnake 9 Northwestern Neotropical Rattlesnake

Columbus Zoo 8 Crucilla Turtle 8 Everglades Rat Snake 6 Forest Cobra 2 Gibba Turtle

11 Malayan Spitting Cobra 4 Maculate Gecko 4 Red Cheeked Mud Turtle 1 Red Spitting Cobra

Philadelphia Zoo 2 Leopard Gecko

Knoxville Zoo 3 Leopard Gecko 1 Gold Dust Day Gecko

33 Haitian Galliwasp 11 Urocoan Rattlesnake 3 Central American Wood Turtle

Gladys Porter Zoo (Brownsville) 6 Burmese Python

10 Taylor's Cantil 5 Honduran Milk Snake

St. Catherine's Survival Center (Midway GA) 1 Radiated Tortoise 1 Yellow Footed Tortoise

San Antonio Zoo 7 Pueblan Milk Snake 4 Honduran Milk Snake

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Dear Secretary,

Department of Zoology University of Sheffield Sheffield SID 2TN South Yorkshi.re England

23 August 1986

I am about to start writing a book on the captive breeding of snakes. In order to make this as comprehensive as possible, I am appealing for da ta from all breeders rand {Alould be gra teful if you would circulate this request amongst your membership.

Although I cannot offer payment for information, all contributions will be acknowledged in print.

Ideally the information should include the following:-

Were the adults hibernated or cooled off? Approximate age and size at first breeding. Number of eggs or young. Incubation period/temperature Approximate size of hatchlings/neonates. Special requirements of adults and/or young.

For multiple breedings, either an average, or two or three typical sample results would suffice. For rare or rarely-bred species, even incomplete data is welcome.

P.l.11 information to be forwarded by December 31st, 1986 :if possible please.

Thanking you in advance for your participation.

Chr.is Mattison.

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ClASSIFIEDS

EDITOR'S NOTE: Classified ads are run in the MHS Newsletter as a free service to the membership. No paid ads are accepted from nonmembers. No ads will be run for venomous species. While 'MRS will not run ads for known sick or illegal animals, we accept no responsibility for the health or legality of any animals advertised here. Please send ALL ads directly to me, Jim Gerholdt, P.o. Box 86, Webster, MN 55088, and not to the MHS address. The deadline for all Newsletter items is the 15th of the month!

MINNESOTA HERPETOLOGICAL SOCIETY DELICATESSEN

REMEMBER-During each meeting we will have available our featured take-out items.

FRESH FROZEN ADULT MICE-$4.00 per dozen. FRESH FROZEN PINKIES AND FUZZIES-$4.00 per d9zen.

Due to limited supplies, we have placed a 3 dozen limit on adult mice orders. FRESH FROZEN RATS-JUMBO SI2E-$2.00.

FRESH FROZEN RAT PUPS-$4eOO per dozene

PLEASE NOTE THE PRICE RAISE ON PINKIES AND FUZZIES, RAT PUPS, AND ADULT RATS! ! !

Remember, if you want rats or mice, they are available by reservation only. You MUST place your order no later than 7:00 PM on Thursday the day before the meet­ing. Logistics dictate this policy, so please cooperate with us. Don't miss out! Also, please bring your own container so your food animals don't thaw out.

TO ORDER RATS: Call Bruce or Connie at 593-0298. TO ORDER MICE: Call Jim or Pam at 652-2996.

FOR SALE: Still have some pinkie feeding albinos and tri-colors available. Bob Applegate, 1762 Pepper Villa Drive, El Cajon, CA 92921.. 619-448-5746. Will package and discount dealer quantities on some.

FOR SALE: Red Legged Tarantula, with cage. $20.00. Contact Andrea Leader at 715-262-3107.

FOR SALE: 1.1 Eastern Milk Snake - $35.00/pair. 1.0 Red Milk Snake - $20.00. 8 Western Hognose. New hatchlings, anticipated hatching date Nov. 1 - $12.00 each. Contact Toni Vangen at 612-473-5365.

IS YOUR MHS MEMBERSHIP CURRENT? PLEASE CHECK YOUR ADDRESS lABEL TO BE SURE!

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CLASSIFIEDS

Fall T-shirt close out sale! t-shirts, tan with brown M, L, and XL only. $5.00 at postpaid. Great idea for a Jim Gerholdt, P.O. Box 86, 612-652-2996.

Largest Selection of Reptiles & Amphibians in Minnesota High Quality - Reasonable Prices - Personal Service

Cages, Books, Feed & Supplies

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Owners: Bruce & Connie Delles (612) 593-0298

Open 7 Days a Week

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Remarkable Reptile print. Available in the meetings or $6~)00 stocking stuffer! Webster, MN 55088.

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For Quality Veterinary Care at a Reasonable Price Call

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The Bay Area Amphibian and Reptile Society BAARS, Palo Alto Junior Museum, 1451 Middlefield Road, Palo Alto, CA 94301

Copies of CAPTIVE PROPAGATION AND HUSBANDRY OF REPTILES AND AMPHIBIANS are available for purchase. The book, edited by Randdll L. Gray. is the proceedings volume from the second conference of the same name, held in 1985 in Davis, California, under the joint sponsorship of the Northern California Herpetological Society and the Bay Area Amphibian and Reptile Society. The book comprises 165 8 1/2 X lIn typescript pages, including illustrations and bibliographies. Orders may be placed with Skip HcCrunpbell, 4321 Victoria Avenue, Union City!! CA 94587. Checks for $18 par copy should be made out to Bay Area Amphibian and Reptile Society.

COMPLETE CONTENTS

Applegate, Robert. Problems associated with a commercial colubrid breeding program.

Blades. John. Long term indoor maintenance of chameleons. Blody. David A. Maintenance and reproduction of selected

species of neotropical iguanid lizards. Freid. Rochelle. Captive propagation and husbandry of leopard

tortoises. Gray. Randall L. Captive propagation as a tool in wildlife

managemen t • Hiler. Bruce I. An overview of the amphibian collection of the

Steinhart Aquarium as an introduction to amphibian care. Huff" Thomas A .. An overview of li.zard husbandry and propagation

with emphasis on the work at the Reptile Breeding Foundation. McCarten, Niall F. Ecological balance in artificial systems. McKeown. Sean. The ecosystem approach: new survival strategies

for managing and displaying reptiles and dmphibians in zoos. Mader. Douglas R. The interrelationship between ambient

temperature and reptile health management. Murphy, Jim; Tremper. Ron; Wagner. Ernie. Panel comments. Orwicz. Kris. The effects of gas supersaturation on amphibians. Phillips. John A. A holistic view of reptile physiology. Stearns, Brett C. Captive husbandry and propagation of

tortoises .. Wagner. Ernie. Captive husbandry of wild-caught emerald tree

boas.

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