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Polycom Struggles to Remain Relevant in Changing Market
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Summary of Findings
All 18 U.S. sources said Polycom Inc. (PLCM) is struggling to keep
up with the changing video conferencing market. Polycom‟s in-
room solutions are no longer driving the market as growth and
demand shift to mobile and desktop solutions. Sources stressed
the importance of mobile device conferencing, an area where
Polycom has just started to compete.
Ten of 18 U.S. sources said Cisco Systems Inc. (CSCO) is in a better
position than Polycom, and even gaining share in some instances,
because it offers integrated solutions currently favored over
Polycom‟s stand-alone products. Also, Cisco products are better
suited to small- and midsize businesses.
Video conferencing has become much less formal, giving rise to the
likes of Microsoft Corp.‟s (MSFT) Skype and Apple Inc.‟s (AAPL)
FaceTime. Also, equipment prices are being pressured downward
by competition from companies like Vidyo Inc. and Avaya Inc.
Four U.S. sources said Polycom is having trouble with its
salesforce, ranging from defections of key members to poor
customer service. Polycom is not expected to win many future
accounts so it is focusing on deepening relationships with existing
clients.
All eight sources in China said Polycom is the market leader, but
that Cisco is losing share because of its high prices. Four sources
said Polycom has lowered its prices in the face of increasing
competition from local upstarts. Three sources said industry growth
has slowed in 2012.
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Polycom’s
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Large Corporate
End Users
Small Corporate
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Industry
Specialists
Research Question:
How are increased competition and lower-cost alternatives affecting Polycom's growth
and market share?
Silo Summaries
1) EQUIPMENT VENDORS IN U.S. & CHINA Six U.S. sources said Polycom‟s growth has slowed
under pressure from competitors focused on desktop
and mobile solutions. Cisco, LifeSize, Avaya and Vidyo
are all taking share from Polycom. Skype and FaceTime
also attract customers. Cisco beats Polycom with its all-
in-one platform, better price, and is better with small
businesses. One source said the high turnover in
Polycom‟s salesforce has cost the company key
relationships. Two sources in China said Polycom is the
market leader. Polycom beats Cisco on price and
outperforms cheaper local competition. One source said
Polycom‟s price has dropped 10% year to year, while
another said the industry‟s growth in China has slowed
since Blueshift‟s November report.
2) LARGE CORPORATE END USERS Three U.S. sources said Polycom is struggling to
maintain its market share amid greater competition and
a shift to desktop and mobile solutions. Cisco and
LifeSize are gaining share as the market shifts to less
formal video conferencing. Polycom is also hurt by its
lack of all-in-one solutions. Four sources in China said
Polycom is the market leader with a more affordable
solution than Cisco and higher quality than low-priced
local competitors. Slowing industry growth and
increasing competition is leading to an overall 10%
decrease in price, while one source said Polycom has
dropped its prices about 5%.
3) SMALL CORPORATE END USERS Three U.S. sources prefer Cisco to Polycom for its
quality, price, mobile solutions and reliability. One
source said Polycom‟s poor customer service from its
salesforce was a prime factor in not choosing Polycom.
The market is shifting to solutions on desktops and
mobile devices, an area where Polycom trails. Two
sources in China said Polycom is the market leader and
Cisco is losing share. Competition from local companies
is growing. Hardware prices are dropping 15% to 20%
year to year in China, though one source said Polycom‟s
price remains stable.
4) INDUSTRY SPECIALISTS Six sources said Polycom faces an uphill battle to
maintain its market share. There is a move toward
integrated solutions where Cisco and Avaya excel.
Desktop and mobile solutions are growing faster than
Polycom‟s in-room systems. Video conferencing is
becoming less formal, hurting Polycom. One source said
Polycom‟s sales defections have hurt more than
anticipated, and they need a partner to help move
beyond the hardware-only solution.
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Background
Polycom and Cisco, two heavyweights in the video communication space, are facing increased competition from lower-cost
alternative vendors. Blueshift Research‟s November 22 report found Vidyo and Logitech International S.A.‟s (LOGI) LifeSize to
be the biggest threats to Polycom because of their quality products and lower prices. Sources also expect prices of video
conferencing equipment to decline during the next one to three years because of increased competition. Polycom issued Q1
2012 guidance below analysts‟ estimates, lowering its first-quarter revenue outlook due to slower business in North America.
CURRENT RESEARCH This report aims to determine the effect competition is having on Polycom's market position, and how Polycom measures up
to Cisco in a head-to-head battle.
Blueshift employed its pattern mining approach to establish and interview sources in five independent silos:
1) Equipment Vendors in U.S. and China (8)
2) Large Corporate End Users (7)
3) Small Corporate End Users (5)
4) Industry Specialists (6)
5) Secondary sources (4)
Blueshift interviewed 26 primary sources, including 16 repeat sources, and included four of the most relevant secondary
sources focused on competition from Blue Jeans Network, the iPad and the bring-your-own-device movement.
Silos
1) EQUIPMENT VENDORS IN U.S. AND CHINA Six U.S. sources said Polycom‟s growth has slowed under pressure from competitors focused on desktop and mobile
solutions. Cisco, LifeSize, Avaya and Vidyo were all mentioned as alternatives taking share from Polycom. Skype and
FaceTime also attract customers. Cisco beats Polycom as it can cut prices on its hardware to sell bandwidth, is better with
small businesses, has more opportunity to cross-sell and offers an all-in-one platform that Polycom lacks. One source said
Polycom‟s salesforce has been instructed to deepen existing relationships and upsell as the U.S. customer has plateaued.
Another source said there is a disconnect between the sales team and upper management, and the high turnover in
Polycom‟s salesforce has cost the company key relationships and caused confusion amid changing strategies. Two sources in
China said Polycom is the market leader with 40% to 50% of the market. Polycom beats Cisco on price and outperforms
cheaper local competition on quality. One source said Polycom‟s price has dropped 10% year to year, while another said the
industry‟s growth has slowed since Blueshift‟s November report.
Vice president of sales at business communications vendor; repeat source
The video conferencing market has high growth potential over the next five
years, but Polycom may have trouble growing with the market. It is the
established player along with Cisco, but its strengths are in-room-based systems
for government and education, while the growth is in systems that connect
business users using desktop computers and mobile devices. While attending a
recent Polycom sales conference, the source was impressed by Polycom
executives and their strategy for addressing vendor issues and their weaknesses
in the corporate market. However, there seems to be a disconnect between the
leadership and field sales. Turnover has been high among field sales agents,
and the sales strategy keeps changing. The source also deals regularly with
LifeSize and Avaya, upstarts that are likely to take market share from Polycom.
Price competition is high among vendors, and the source‟s profit margins have
dropped 5% to 12%.
Polycom and Cisco‟s strength
has been in-the-room systems,
but those systems will be less
and less prevalent. Twenty-five-
year-old users expect to be able
to do video through their
desktops or mobile devices.
Doing video wherever you want
is going to win the battle.
VP of Sales
Business Communications Vendor
Polycom Inc.
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“Of all the markets we‟re in, I see video conferencing as the one that has the most potential for growth. In three
to five years, it will be ubiquitous.”
“Polycom is really strong in health care, government and education. They‟re weak in commercial enterprise
business and small business. They said at their annual conference that they want to work on that area.”
“Polycom and Cisco‟s strength has been in-the-room systems, but those systems will be less and less prevalent.
Twenty-five-year-old users expect to be able to do video through their desktops or mobile devices. Doing video
wherever you want is going to win the battle.”
“My biggest frustration has been Polycom‟s field sales. Turnover in
personnel is like nothing I‟ve ever seen. Our service person has been
reassigned three times in the last year, and they‟re constantly changing
strategy. Polycom is very tightly connected up above, but I don‟t know if
it gets down to the field level. There‟s a disconnect.”
“Everything in technology has been commoditized. I don‟t have a deal
where one or two competitors aren‟t also bidding, and I‟m getting
squeezed.”
“My profit margins have dropped 5% to 12%, and Polycom hasn‟t done
anything to help me out. However, I just went to their annual sales
conference and they‟re aware of the problem. A lot of the profit is in
services, and they say they‟ll be shifting service revenue back to the
partners, providing more opportunities for service.”
“I‟ve been selling Polycom for four to five years, but this was my first
time at their annual conference. I was really impressed with the
message at the CEO level. There is lots of synergy down through the
ranks—everyone had the same message. That‟s not like other
conferences I‟ve been to, where you hear four or five different things at
different levels of the organization.”
“Polycom is the more established, more known player. Their technology has been superior. LifeSize is the
upstart, catching up in the tech space. They have a narrower product, though. Avaya is the newcomer, in the
market for about 18 months. It‟s well-established in voice, but their product has not been well-defined.”
“When I saw the stock had dropped 20%, I thought about running out and buying some. But I haven‟t bought
any. I‟m just not that confident in them.”
VP of marketing at unified communications equipment provider; repeat source
Business has been good, with steady growth in the market. However, Polycom has struggled compared to its competition.
Lower-cost desktop-based solutions from providers like LifeSize have been cutting into its market, and Polycom has not
shown off many new ideas in response. Price competition continues to be an issue, and Polycom has suffered from the
difference between its list price and its street price. The source has profited from customers who need services, but has
less incentive to promote hardware if the sale goes to another provider competing on price. Cisco is also a problem for
Polycom, since it can cut prices on hardware to sell network bandwidth. The big trend seems to be the end of dedicated
hardware as communications goes to a virtualized model, and Polycom will have to make significant changes to its
business if it wants to keep up.
“Business has been good, steady and strong. Q1 was a little slower, but
we‟ve seen that seasonal variation before. The other three quarters will
make up for it.”
“It‟s a competitive market. LifeSize is growing, and there is a breadth of
other desktop options, even Skype. These people are eating into
Polycom‟s market share.”
“LifeSize is doing a very good job of getting information to partners. I‟ve
also seen Polycom‟s webinars, but I feel I‟m seeing the same
information over and over there.”
“Polycom has all the tools, but they need to make better use of them.
They bought Accordent, but the integration needs to be better.”
“I haven‟t really been affected by the management changes at
Polycom.”
My biggest frustration has been
Polycom‟s field sales. Turnover
in personnel is like nothing I‟ve
ever seen. Our service person
has been reassigned three
times in the last year, and
they‟re constantly changing
strategy. Polycom is very tightly
connected up above, but I don‟t
know if it gets down to the field
level. There‟s a disconnect.
VP of Sales
Business Communications Vendor
It‟s a competitive market.
LifeSize is growing, and there is
a breadth of other desktop
options, even Skype. These
people are eating into
Polycom‟s market share.
VP of Marketing
Communications Equipment Provider
Polycom Inc.
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“Polycom has suffered from its street price being way off from list price. Dell [Inc./DELL] and other discount
providers have a very different model, and they can get by with a couple of points margin on products. It‟s bad
for everyone in the industry in the long run. Why should I recommend a
piece of hardware that might just get jobbed out for a lower price?”
“Overall the market has still got good growth. Other applications are
starting to emerge, especially in health care. Virtual consultation is
starting to get really big for the medical market. Doctors are looking to
reduce their costs and exposure—that‟s the key term.”
“People are looking for smaller units, a lot of desktops. They don‟t want
to make a huge investment in infrastructure. There is also a lot of
mobile, but mobile is still a little awkward to use.”
“You‟re going to see the end of this dedicated hardware. All these
pieces are going to a virtualized model. Polycom will have to change.”
“Cisco‟s always pushed TelePresence. They have very different
distribution. They can give away some equipment to sell network
bandwidth.”
“Avaya‟s acquisition of Radvision [Ltd./RVSN] is interesting. It seems
like Avaya is starting to get into video, and they have a good selling
network that Radvision can take advantage of. Coming into video from
voice is a transition, but it‟s a transition that Polycom made.”
Principal, video communications consulting firm
Specialized video conferencing equipment manufacturers are under significant pressure from both desktop-based retail-
level solutions and upstream network-resident solutions. Polycom‟s legacy business is somewhat shielded by its deep
relationships with value-added resellers and known brand, but future wins may be difficult. Small- and medium-size
businesses are a lost cause. Cisco, on the other hand, has all of Polycom‟s market advantages and a nearly ubiquitous
brand in small enterprise.
“Polycom is probably going to remain on the defensive until they can figure out how to appeal to enterprise
customers as a dedicated hardware purchase. Tandberg or Cisco has the upper hand here.”
“Streaming two-way video is now within reach of not only the typical desktop but mobile devices as well.
Customers who would once have wanted to create a dedicated „conference room‟ set-up are now more inclined
to use retail screens—everything from the old-fashioned desk-mounted webcam to an iPhone—and pay extra to
make sure their network can handle the feed.”
“On the network engineering side, Polycom is a bit behind the loop. They have great switching capabilities
related to their historical telecom equipment expertise, but Cisco can build its streaming video solutions into a
larger enterprise network a lot more easily. The win for Cisco is really to get people who want to buy a camera
and a screen to buy into the TelePresence Cloud and the TelePresence
Callway. The camera is practically a free gift with purchase.”
“But Polycom is still largely known for selling the camera and the
screen. While they acquired some expertise from buying Hewlett-
Packard [Co.‟s/HPQ] Halo business, they were really only buying the
customers. Certainly, from my point of view, the company is a hardware
manufacturer first and foremost. They‟re one of the best camera
makers, but they‟re still a camera maker.”
“Conference room consultants still love Polycom products. It‟s one of
only four vendors we regularly recommend. Cisco‟s Tandberg is still
known by that name and there‟s only a bit of resistance from the
consultants now that they‟re part of Cisco. The technology still works as
a pure hardware purchase. It‟s really a win for Cisco to have a captive
hardware maker to sell their service offering into. It‟s not like people
who were recommending Tandberg as a standalone piece of an overall
solution are suddenly steering clear because Cisco reengineered the
cameras to only work on its cloud.”
People are looking for smaller
units, a lot of desktops. They
don‟t want to make a huge
investment in infrastructure.
There is also a lot of mobile,
but mobile is still a little
awkward to use. … You‟re going
to see the end of this dedicated
hardware. All these pieces are
going to a virtualized model.
Polycom will have to change.
VP of Marketing
Communications Equipment Provider
Polycom is probably going to
remain on the defensive until
they can figure out how to
appeal to enterprise customers
as a dedicated hardware
purchase. Tandberg or Cisco
has the upper hand here. …
Tandberg now arguably has
everything going for it that
Polycom ever did, plus the huge
backing of Cisco behind it.
Principal, Video Communications
Consulting Firm
Polycom Inc.
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“There‟s talk that Polycom is bringing its cameras to small business, but you have to ask two things. First, can
small businesses that employ maybe 50 people justify the expense when they probably don‟t have that many
remote locations anyway? Second, would those small businesses like to spend $5,000 on a great camera set-up
for the home office when they could just put everyone on a retail-level solution like [Citrix Systems Inc.‟s/CTXS]
GoToMeeting? The answers are „maybe‟ and „no.‟”
“We like Polycom and Tandberg as well as Sony [Corp./SNE] and a company called Initia [Inc.] for switching.
Sony is often discounted as a serious competitor, but their systems are actually better out-of-the-box solutions
for small business that wants a dedicated camera solution. Polycom and Tandberg are the gold standard beyond
that point. Tandberg now arguably has everything going for it that Polycom ever did, plus the huge backing of
Cisco behind it.”
“LifeSize is great but it‟s considered a cut-rate vendor. The margins aren‟t there for value-added reseller [VAR]
relationships to be interested and LifeSize is more at risk of being squeezed out by a pure desktop or mobile
solution anyway.”
Principal, video communications value-added reseller
Use of video conference services remains robust but the overall U.S. customer base has plateaued. Polycom is as
susceptible as any other vendor to the lack of new avenues of growth. However, the company‟s ties to government and
educational organizations have functioned as a moat around its core market share and even helped it win some new
customers. Cisco is a serious competitor but hampered by internal channel conflicts.
“Times are tough because the market is no longer really growing. Existing deployments are growing and
deepening and people are willing to switch vendors, but the green field wins aren‟t nearly as frequent as they
once were. That weighs on Polycom‟s growth, and because they‟re one of the biggest players in the field, what‟s
bad for them is terrible for just about everyone else.”
“Polycom just announced a big win in the educational market. It‟s a
rare thing now. Most of the enterprise customers who wanted video
capability already have it in some form. The easy sell has already been
made. Now things get tougher and if anything, the new deployments
may have hit a wall.”
“People still love the idea of video meetings. The pain points ebb and
flow, largely with airfare prices, but at this point everyone has access to
some form of the technology and has at least tried it out. The barrier to
entry has now reached zero in the form of applications like Skype and
[Apple‟s] FaceTime. And as always, once „free‟ is on the table, the point
at which people will pay for incremental value—functionality, reliability,
security—gets fairly far out. So people love video meetings. They just
aren‟t as readily convinced they need to pay for the hardware and the
service.”
“I suspect Polycom‟s revenue may go up single digits per quarter for
awhile as they squeeze higher ticket prices out of existing customers.
Their sales teams are going back out with orders to deepen existing
relationships, upsell the software and other components of the offering
that someone who just bought the hardware may not be buying yet. But
beyond that, we seem to be in the „new normal‟ for hardware sales.
This is as good as it gets until a new generation of enterprise-level
devices restarts the procurement cycle.”
“Cisco is in a similar boat, although with them the opportunities to
cross-sell are much wider and so the apparent upside for them is
higher. More specialized vendors like LifeSize are in much worse
trouble. Logitech can‟t sell too many added keyboards to people who bought a camera. Sony is in between:
difficult to find synergies to exploit, but the video conferencing equipment is such a small part of their overall
empire that I can imagine them simply selling it off or even retiring the product line some day. Not a dedicated
competitor here.”
“Polycom does have friends in the educational and government verticals. None of these entities have much
cash, though. The ones who wanted to spend cash on distance learning or remote conferencing did so during
I suspect Polycom‟s revenue
may go up single digits per
quarter for awhile as they
squeeze higher ticket prices
out of existing customers. Their
sales teams are going back out
with orders to deepen existing
relationships, upsell the
software and other
components of the offering. …
But beyond that, we seem to be
in the „new normal‟ for
hardware sales. This is as good
as it gets until a new
generation of enterprise-level
devices restarts the
procurement cycle.
Principal
Video Communications Reseller
Polycom Inc.
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the last few years of stimulus spending. Now that the money from Washington has trickled out, they‟re laying off
a lot of people. They‟re not bringing on so many people that flying them around is costing too much. Education is
probably the place where consolidating remote services makes sense as budgets shrink, and that‟s a place
where Polycom can make a pitch.”
“The problem with Cisco here is that the networking equipment guys aren‟t talking to the client-facing equipment
guys. Tandberg still doesn‟t have the hang of making a focused presentation to the network admins and saying,
„our hardware is integrated into your router protocols, buy both together and save headaches.‟ They‟re just
reaching out to the front office with the HD experience. At best they sell the Cisco cloud if the network admins
are even in the room. It‟s a waste of their integrated offering. Having the desktop-based GoToMeeting
applications in the mix only confuses the message more.”
President, video communications value-added reseller
Polycom is losing significant share as Cisco rebrands its legacy conferencing businesses into an integrated all-in-one
solution. This strategy gives Cisco and Radvision the upper hand as established top-down turnkey vendors, leaving
Polycom struggling as No. 3 in that market. Low-end vendors are considered unworthy of discussion, but Vidyo is now
considered more vital than ever in the desktop and mobile space.
“Polycom is caught in the middle. We still offer them to customers, but
the mental space is increasingly dominated by Radvision‟s known
brand among integrated and secure applications and Cisco‟s newly
integrated TelePresence and Digital Media Suite offerings. With two
great choices, fewer customers will ask to see a third, so Polycom falls
between the stools.”
“The problem is that Polycom made such a great name for itself as a
vendor of telecom equipment and conferencing hardware that people
forget to take them seriously as a full-service solutions provider. People
will say Polycom makes the camera, the star-shaped conference
keypad, maybe the switch. They have to be reminded that this is a
platform provider. That‟s tough because it means the company has to
sell itself up and outside the potential buyer‟s psychic comfort zone.”
“Cisco, on the other hand, is Cisco. They‟re the biggest U.S. name in
networking equipment, a blue chip name around the world. Now that
they‟re finally retiring the Tandberg name—or rather, folding it into the
Cisco Digital Media Suite—they can take advantage of that blue chip
brand and win some star-struck customers. [Cisco‟s] share is rising. If
share is coming from anywhere, it‟s Polycom.”
“We don‟t sell LifeSize or the Sony peripherals. If you want a webcam,
go to Best Buy [Co. Inc./BBY]. Our clients know that.”
“The market is growing but only as people who‟d been using ad hoc
solutions scale up and find that they need better connectivity, better
security, lower latency. I think 10% growth in the United States for the
big boys feels realistic, maybe a little high. This market is fairly mature. Pricing is stable so far.”
“For the ad hoc solutions, Vidyo is actually doing great things that use legacy hardware to improve the
teleconference experience. They‟re ahead of the curve when it comes to selling enterprise video
communications on tablet, desktop, smartphone and everything in between. If you evaluate overall growth in
conference usage, I suspect they‟re ahead of both Cisco and Polycom. But on that scale, I‟d put Apple far and
away on top because FaceTime put the video call on the map for them.”
Social media analyst for business equipment provider
Video conferencing is growing, but not as fast as in recent years as the next six months will only have a slight increase in
growth. Polycom faces increasing competition from LifeSize and ClearOne Communications Inc. (CLRO) that are cheaper
and more flexible. Polycom‟s high prices and lack of commitment to improving its products are costing it market share,
and it will have to come up with revolutionary product ideas and support cross-platform video delivery to succeed. Price
competition is high right now as companies try to get the most they can out of the market‟s slowing growth.
Polycom is caught in the
middle. We still offer them to
customers, but the mental
space is increasingly
dominated by Radvision‟s
known brand among integrated
and secure applications and
Cisco‟s newly integrated
TelePresence and Digital Media
Suite offerings. With two great
choices, fewer customers will
ask to see a third, so Polycom
falls between the stools. …
[Cisco‟s] share is rising. If share
is coming from anywhere, it‟s
Polycom.
President
Video Communications Reseller
Polycom Inc.
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“Video conferencing is growing, no doubt. But it is not growing as fast
as it was in the past couple of years. In the next six months, you might
observe a slight increase in growth but not as significant.”
“Polycom‟s growth rate will remain more or less the same. To improve
its current position, Polycom will have to come up with a contingency
plan and adapt quickly to the changing demands. It should understand
that businesses might not be willing to pay for its existing products
because those features are now more readily available in free or
cheaper video conferencing solutions.”
“Polycom products and a couple of other video conferencing
monopolists are facing tough competition. Low-cost brands such as
LifeSize and ClearOne are eating profits because these brands are not
just less expensive but also far more flexible and adaptable.”
“Plus, these emerging brands are more interactive and supportive on
social media as compared to Polycom. These brands are using low-cost
and more effective mediums for marketing to their advantage.”
“There is too much competition on price in the video conferencing
market. If you check online video conferencing products and the
solution market, you will notice that almost everywhere the price tag
has been replaced by the RFQ button. There is no fixed price concept
anymore because of the ever-increasing price competition. Prices have
changed, fallen dramatically, because market growth has slowed and competition is high.”
Sales manager at a local Chinese video conferencing manufacturer; repeat source
Polycom operates better than Cisco in China with products at half the price. Polycom leads in video conferencing
technologies but many local Chinese companies also mimic technologies from Polycom while providing much cheaper
prices. Due to the industrywide drop in pricing, Polycom has reduced its price 10% compared to the first half of last year.
“China‟s video conferencing market will increase between 30% and 50% this year. Compared to November
2011, market capacity has grown 20% because of company growth and expansion in medium and small cities.”
“Industry pricing is going down by 15%. Prices are pulled down by small
manufacturers and suppliers providing similar technologies and
services but competing on price.”
“Polycom prices in the first half of this year are 10% less than a year
ago.”
“Vidyo and Polycom are gaining market share. Cisco is losing share
because it is still too expensive.”
“Polycom faces pressure from competitors like Vidyo. Local Chinese
companies have the ability to mimic patented video conferencing
system technologies and usually charge only one third of the price
Polycom charges.”
“Polycom performs better than Cisco in the Chinese market. Polycom
tries to solve three problems for clients: tailor standards according to
clients‟ needs; be compatible with existing equipment; and maintain a
relatively low cost.”
General manager of a unified communications reseller, including Polycom, in China; repeat source
Polycom has more market opportunities than Cisco because it has provided tailored solutions for small- and medium-size
companies. It is expected to grow by 20%. The strengths now are a mobile device video conferencing system which
cannot be provided by most of Chinese local brands.
“The video conferencing market in China in 2012 will grow at least 40% from last year. The market at present
has slowed down a little from last November.”
“In my company, the prices are the same as last year.”
Polycom‟s growth rate will
remain more or less the same.
To improve its current position,
Polycom will have to come up
with a contingency plan and
adapt quickly to the changing
demands. It should understand
that businesses might not be
willing to pay for its existing
products because those
features are now more readily
available in free or cheaper
video conferencing solutions.
Social Media Analyst
Business Equipment Provider
Polycom prices in the first half
of this year are 10% less than a
year ago. … Vidyo and Polycom
are gaining market share. Cisco
is losing share because it is still
too expensive.
Sales Manager
Video Conferencing Manufacturer
China
Polycom Inc.
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“Polycom has to face that its operation costs are rising fast in the last two years and the external business
environment has been more competitive. The development of cloud technology, Internet technology and
introduction of new products will all change the whole business environment.”
“Polycom now almost takes 50% market share in China, and it is
expected to grow at a 20% rate in this year.”
“Polycom‟s products are absolutely superior although prices are three
times higher than local companies.”
“Leading companies like Polycom have made efforts in developing
mobile video conferencing system. It cooperates with iPhone,
Samsung, Motorola [Mobility Holdings Inc./MMI] and other dominant
mobile brands. In China, Polycom also cooperates with Lenovo in video
conferencing system, which will be applied in tablets, PCs and
laptops.”
“According to the demand from small- and medium-sized companies,
Polycom provides solutions that are different than solutions to large companies, so Polycom will have more
market opportunities.”
2) LARGE CORPORATE END USERS Three U.S. sources said Polycom is struggling to maintain its market share amid greater competition and a shift to desktop
and mobile solutions. Cisco and LifeSize are gaining share with more flexible solutions as the market transforms away from
high-end, room-based systems to less formal video conferencing needs. Prices are coming down and Polycom is not adjusting
fast enough to market changes. Polycom is also hurt by its lack of all-in-one solutions, an area where Cisco excels. Four
sources in China said Polycom is the market leader with a more affordable solution than Cisco and higher quality than low-
priced local competitors. Slowing industry growth and increasing competition is leading to an overall 10% decrease in price,
while one source said Polycom has dropped its prices about 5%.
AV services director, global consumer and industrial services company; repeat source
Polycom and the overall video conferencing market will remain flat during 2012, or at best mirror the economy. Polycom
needs to focus on the SMB market—an area the source said was overlooked by the video conferencing market in
Blueshift‟s November 22 report—and rely less on the large companies in order to turn it around. Cisco and LifeSize are
gaining share, but the likes of Microsoft Corp.‟s Skype, Citrix Systems Inc.‟s GoToMeeting and other shareware still lack
the security and high bandwidth needed, especially for large end users. Deep discounting to SMBs—up to 40%—during
the last six months is significantly more than the 5% to 10% to large companies.
“Given the overall global economy, I‟m not terribly surprised by
Polycom‟s reduced outlook. They need to start concentrating on
growing SMBs as opposed to large business.”
“Large companies are great, but they don‟t pay all the bills. They also
ask for the biggest discounts as they can use their weight for better
pricing.”
“If the global economy sees a slow and steady recovery, Polycom will
mirror that. If it recovers quickly, it will mirror that, too.”
“The overall video conferencing market will remain relatively flat.
Personal telepresence on phones will become more common in 2012.
Here, that‟s our main growth—desktop licenses. It‟s all about
bandwidth.”
“[Growth] may increase somewhat with travel restrictions but not by as
much as I thought. It‟s hard to quantify the ROI. I have five different
business units. Some use video conferencing a lot, others not as much,
but isolating those costs is difficult. It‟s a hard sell with finance when
the ROI can‟t be put on a spreadsheet.”
The market at present has
slowed down a little from last
November.
General Manager
Unified Communications Reseller
China
Personal telepresence on
phones will become more
common in 2012. Here, that‟s
our main growth—desktop
licenses. … I see Cisco more
and more, so they are gaining
share. I‟m seeing more LifeSize
systems. … I‟ve seen a few
Polycom iPad and iPhone apps
but they are problematic with
bugs and glitches. It is not
being rolled out on a wide net,
still in pilot program.
AV Services Director
Global Consumer & Industrial Services
Company
Polycom Inc.
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“I am seeing a lot of discounting offered in the SMB market—up to 40% in the last six months. Large companies,
there is some discounting but not as much as I would have expected—about 5% to 10%.”
“I see Cisco more and more, so they are gaining share. I‟m seeing more LifeSize systems. The typical companies
always trying to take share from Polycom.”
“Competition hurting Polycom? Yes and no. Smaller companies like Skype will increase a little but they are not
making enough inroads. The main drawback is the security concern, which you get with Skype, GoToMeeting and
other shareware.”
“That is the hidden cost of video conferencing: how much it costs to get the bandwidth vs. the quality. IT
managers don‟t necessarily factor that in as a cost.”
“All our phones are VOIP, cameras are built-in, laptops with cameras. But we‟re a pretty conservative company. I
can see our execs using RealPresence this year. I‟ve seen a few Polycom iPad and iPhone apps but they are
problematic with bugs and glitches. It is not being rolled out on a wide net, still in pilot program.”
“We just got another telepresence meeting room. We have [about 10] worldwide. The next big push is to get
people to collaborate without traveling.”
“We do all kinds of video conferencing with outside vendors, sales, etc. For the most part, they use Polycom, but
I see old Tandberg systems, and LifeSize here and there. I always have [interoperability] problems with
Tandberg. LifeSize has been pretty good lately. My issues are network-based—firewalls. We use a video border
proxy to get through those.”
CIO for an online university; repeat source
Polycom will have to completely rethink the industry they created in order to recover. The formal and infrequently used
high-end, room-based systems‟ market will be flat or down, and the shift to desktop and mobile benefits low-cost
alternatives. Apple is in the best position to take advantage of the mobile space, and Citrix, Cisco and Microsoft‟s Live
Meeting in the desktop space. Price pressure is downward and no longer benefiting the high-end systems. The room-
based system this repeat source bought a year and a half ago was better than the one he bought three years ago and
cost 15% to 20% less.
“Cheaper alternatives are challenging the Polycoms … and video
conferencing is shifting to a commodity desktop/mobile that everyone
has.”
“Price pressure is coming from Apple, webcams that are standard on
laptops—it used to be you had to have the equipment, now everyone
can do it.”
“There is a place for the Polycoms of the world: high-end, high-
definition. But it‟s more informal now, the video conferencing shift is to
low-cost alternatives.”
“This is the challenge for Polycom—they will almost have to abandon
the market they helped create. They will have to create a separate
division to make inroads, products to enhance video conferencing.
Establish partnerships with Cisco, Adobe [Systems Inc./ADBE],
Microsoft. A lightweight codec. Enhance the quality of the informal
video conferencing that‟s common place.”
“It‟s not just the size of the enterprise, it‟s how video conferencing is
used within that enterprise. One-on-one, or one-to-three desktop—how
do you get in that space? Webcams, daily use—it‟s about volume now.”
“In three to five years, it will all be wireless and mobile technology.
Polycom is not moving fast enough. Entrepreneurs are taking the SMB
and mobile markets.”
“Formal, high-def, high-end market will stay the same or shrink. The
informal market is so ubiquitous.”
“RealPresence is a challenge, a fundamental shift. It‟s the only way to
walk away from what you‟ve created [for Polycom].”
“Apple is definitely in the best position to take advantage of the mobile space. In desktop/phone, Citrix, Cisco,
Live Meeting. There also is GoToMeeting, Cisco‟s WebEx.”
Cheaper alternatives are
challenging the Polycoms …
and video conferencing is
shifting to a commodity
desktop/mobile that everyone
has. … There is a place for the
Polycoms of the world: high-
end, high-definition. But it‟s
more informal now, the video
conferencing shift is to low-cost
alternatives. … Polycom is not
moving fast enough.
Entrepreneurs are taking the
SMB and mobile markets.
Formal, high-def, high-end
market will stay the same or
shrink.
CIO, Online University
Polycom Inc.
321 Pacific Ave., San Francisco, CA 94111 | www.blueshiftideas.com
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“I haven‟t purchased a room-based system in a year and a half, but prices have to be dropping. It was 15% to
20% cheaper and a much better solution than the one I bought three years ago. On the small stuff, pricing gets
better—or the price is free. People expect that if I do a unified communication system, like ShoreTel [Inc./SHOR],
video is part of that.”
“Six months ago I helped a company select a new phone system. I said, „Let‟s anticipate the need for video
phones and get Cisco.‟ It was $20 more for video phones than the equivalent without. Over 1,000 phones, that
adds up, but you don‟t have to worry about not having it down the line. Cisco is going to make it so attractive,
companies can‟t not pay for it.”
“There is a consumerization taking place. Employees have better technology at home than at work. We did a
pilot program and were swarmed by bring-your-own-device volunteers who already had iPads. Employees are
used to better tech at home.”
“We have a video conferencing room that is nice—we use it for board meetings but it is rarely used. The quality is
incredibly good; we just use it more infrequently. Our needs are more informal, so we use the desktop.”
“Our management is using iPads and iPhones and the video conferencing is decent.”
Network administrator for a healthcare company; repeat source
Polycom‟s focus on video forces customers to buy separate solutions for voice and video, which is an advantage for
Cisco, and unless Polycom can integrate better, they may not catch up. Cisco continues to gain share on Polycom as it
closes the gap between the two. The source‟s company was using Polycom for video and Cisco for the rest of their UC
system and was deciding which to use moving forward. The company wound up staying with Polycom for video, but
started developing its own solution that is currently being tested with customers.
“We still have the same environment [since the last time we spoke], but instead of choosing between Polycom
or Cisco, we are developing our own solution. There was a lack of flexibility with what we wanted to do. We are
already in the beta phase and testing with customers.”
“We are integrating into our current voice platform to queue calls and
find the best customer service representative to take the call. On the
video conferencing side, we do our work over video as well and we use
our conference system. We use Polycom for the beta conferences. Our
platform and hardware are Polycom HDX.”
“The major problem we have is firewall. They are closed and people are
not willing to change on the customer side. For infrastructure, we had
to develop a solution for a web browser.”
“Polycom is concentrating on video and not too much on voice, which
pushes customers to buy different solutions—voice and video.
Integrating those two things into one platform is really good for the
customer because they don‟t have to buy a new system. Cisco does
really well that way.”
“Polycom developed a black box with no flexibility.”
“Polycom‟s voice is not as good as Cisco, and I don‟t know if they can
catch up. They need to integrate much better.”
Executive in China at a global company using Polycom; repeat source
Because of competition from small companies, Polycom‟s prices have dropped 3% to 5% in 2012. Polycom remains the
leader in China and is expected to continue its growth, but it faces more challenges for market share than it ever has.
Large corporate end users prefer high quality and service for their video conferencing systems such as Polycom, though
all are implementing cost-control plans. Cisco is Polycom‟s closest competitor in China, but Polycom compares favorably
on price.
“The video conferencing market in 2012 may grow by at least 20%, but not higher than 40% since cost control is
on the agenda.”
“I use video conferencing to make overseas long distance calls with headquarters and other branches. I
selected three brands to compare in terms of price, quality and service and then chose one that best suited our
company‟s needs.”
“Pricing is going down due to the competition from global and local brands in China, not by a big percentage
though, because quality and service are what companies mostly care about.”
Polycom is concentrating on
video and not too much on
voice, which pushes customers
to buy different solutions—voice
and video. Integrating those
two things into one platform is
really good for the customer
because they don‟t have to buy
a new system. Cisco does really
well that way.
Network Administrator
Healthcare Company
Polycom Inc.
321 Pacific Ave., San Francisco, CA 94111 | www.blueshiftideas.com
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“With the heated competition and product maturity, the general trend of pricing is going down perhaps 3% to
5%.”
“With prices dropping, many equipment providers may face challenges,
but are definitely not at risk, since quality and service are still more
important than price alone. So small companies may be the ones at
risk, since they will die out if the quality is bad; or be merged if their
products are good.”
“Polycom is still number one in the video conferencing field. But with
more and more telecom and even software companies wanting a share
in the area, like Cisco, Microsoft, etc., Polycom is facing unprecedented
challenges.”
“Polycom is occupying 45% of market share in China alone. And it will
increase in 2012.”
“Cisco has its own strong points. And with its rich capital, it has
acquired many professional companies in the past few years. On the
other side, Polycom started a strong strategic partnership with IBM and
Siemens to strengthen its influence in the enterprise solutions area.”
“Compared to some local competitors, Polycom provides state-of-the-art video conferencing equipment and
service. Though the price is a little expensive, it‟s reasonable.”
“Polycom offers a reasonable and market price compared to Cisco, which is a bit expensive, especially the high-
end products.”
“Endpoint hardware is becoming smaller and more mobile to realize communicating whenever and wherever.”
Executive in China at a global company using Polycom; repeat source
Competition in the video conferencing industry is increasing, leading to a drop in prices. Polycom in China runs quite well
and it is not at risk although it still needs to provide more high-end products and services to maintain its market leader
position. The low-cost Chinese local brand Huawei Technology Co. Ltd. may be at risk. Hardware prices are decreasing
between 10% and 20%. Companies are cutting their budgets so industry growth is likely to only be 20%.
“Affected by the economic downturn, many companies will cut the budget, so I think the growth will be about
20%.”
“We use the video conferencing mainly to meet the needs of business communication. It is very convenient for
us to have video conferencing with our colleagues working in other cities.”
“Competition in the video conferencing industry is very intense, so we
have enough reasons to expect that the price will drop in the near
future.”
“The low cost provider such as Huawei may be at risk, because it
doesn‟t have a large profit margin. With prices dropping, it cannot stay
profitable easily.”
“Because of the intense market competition and the growing market
demand, Polycom has to make new breakthroughs in high-end
products. As a result, it [formed its partnership] with [Intel Corp.‟s/INTC]
McAfee, and began to dig into the unified communications market.
Polycom is looking at forming strategic cooperations with other
businesses to maintain its current position. Cloud-based services need
content to bring the traffic, and cloud helps content services spread.”
“In China, Polycom has the absolute advantage. Polycom's market share in China continues to maintain more
than 10% growth rate in the last three years. So in the next year, Polycom will still be in a leading position.”
“Polycom has the reputation as the high quality symbol and it gives the customers a perfect using experience.”
“However Cisco comes to the video conferencing market with its good reputation and terrific voice quality
product.”
“Polycom doesn't have price advantages compared with other low-cost video conferencing suppliers except
Cisco, because Cisco's price is the highest in the industry.”
“Endpoint hardware has become smaller and smaller, more and more convenient. And the price is becoming so
low that everybody can afford them.”
Polycom is still number one in
the video conferencing field.
But with more and more
telecom and even software
companies wanting a share in
the area, like Cisco, Microsoft,
etc., Polycom is facing
unprecedented challenges.
Executive, Company Using Polycom
China
Competition in the video
conferencing industry is very
intense, so we have enough
reasons to expect that the price
will drop in the near future.
Executive, Company Using Polycom
China
Polycom Inc.
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Representative for an auto manufacturing company in China using Polycom; repeat source
Polycom is not at risk although local low-cost brands are emerging with price advantages. Polycom has quality and
service advantages. As one of the market leaders, Polycom‟s price is lower than Cisco‟s, causing Cisco to lose share in
China. In 2012, the video conferencing equipment price is 15% lower than the first half of last year.
“Video conferencing systems have a long-term life cycle. The demand for growth is very limited so that I think the
growth rate this year will be not higher than 10%.”
“Due to fierce competition in the market, I think the price will decrease
20%. The market will be supplied with more services in the future so
that clients will have more options.”
“Compared with the first half of last year, the prices of video
conferencing equipment reduced 15%.”
“Price changes will not threaten Polycom but will be risky for small
vendor companies due to lack of brand recognition, bad customer
service and low quality.”
“Market share of large video conferencing suppliers like Vidyo and
Polycom are expanding, while Cisco is losing share because the price of
Cisco is still too high, and it is not compatible with with the other
existing facilities.”
“Although Polycom is not at risk now, the company also faces some
pressure from the current business environment. Inflation drives the
cost of company operations, and more and more local Chinese brands
are emerging.”
“Polycom and Cisco are still the leaders of the market. Polycom prices
are lower than Cisco although still much higher than local brands.”
“Polycom supplies more flexible and targeted hardware and software configuration services, which is much
better than Cisco. Cisco‟s endpoint hardware cost is too high.”
“Compared with low-cost video conferencing suppliers in China, Polycom has advantages too. Domestic brands
such as Korth, Seegle and Iactive, although cheap in prices, have worse quality than Polycom and cannot supply
a stable signal. Big companies have the better technology.”
“Polycom has begun the layout of the mobile terminal, cloud, social collaboration service, and recently it
introduced a platform based on the iPad and iPhone, the RealPresence mobile video conferencing solutions.”
“To stay on top of the social business communication scene, Polycom cooperates with Ericsson [ERIC] to
develop Polycom RealPresence Platform.”
Marketing executive in China for a global nutritional products company using Polycom; repeat source
Polycom faces pressure due to higher costs and lower prices, but it remains the market share leader in China. Cisco is
losing market share due to high prices. The whole industry is expected to expand by 40% this year with prices lower by
5% to 10%.
“In the next few years, the video conferencing market will grow strongly
with decreasing of traditional business conferences and rising video
business conferences. The growth rate in 2012 is estimated at 40%.”
“Prices in the whole industry will reduce between 5% and 10% due to
competition.”
“Prices in the first half of 2012 are definitely getting lower from the
same period of 2011.”
“Vidyo, Polycom and Sony are gaining market share, but Cisco is losing
market share. Cisco‟s prices are too high and with low compatibility.”
“Polycom has to face high cost of operation, marketing, sales channels
and labor, with lower prices. The company has to introduce new
products or services to stay ahead of the competition.”
“In the short-term, the market position of Polycom and Cisco won‟t be
replaced. And Polycom is developing cloud computing technology to
Due to fierce competition in the
market, I think the price will
decrease 20%. The market will
be supplied with more services
in the future so that clients will
have more options. …
Compared with the first half of
last year, the prices of video
conferencing equipment
reduced 15%.
Representative
Auto Manufacturing Co. Using Polycom
China
Prices in the whole industry will
reduce between 5% and 10%
due to competition. … Prices in
the first half of 2012 are
definitely getting lower from the
same period of 2011.
Marketing Executive
Nutritional Products Co. Using Polycom
China
Polycom Inc.
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bring new products to market.”
“Polycom‟s products can be tailored with customers‟ needs and maximize customers‟ desire. Cisco‟s products
are not very flexible.”
“The low-cost brands cannot compete with Polycom and Cisco in technological performance, although prices are
attractive to medium- and small-size end users. Domestic companies like Quanshi and Dake enjoyed growing
market share.”
“To maintain the market leadership, Polycom has some marketing strategies. It offers the latest technological
products such as a mobile video conferencing system based on the iPad and iPhone, and in the mean time,
some old products and services are on sale resulting in decreased prices for Polycom.”
3) SMALL CORPORATE END USERS Three U.S. sources prefer Cisco to Polycom for its quality, low price, mobile solutions and reliability. One source said
Polycom‟s poor customer service from its salesforce was a prime factor in not choosing Polycom. The market is shifting away
from Polycom‟s old stranglehold of defined-use cases for larger firms and toward more flexible solutions on desktops and
mobile devices, an area where Polycom trails. Polycom also must make up ground with small- and medium-size businesses, a
market segment where competitors have typically outperformed it. Two sources in China said Polycom is the market leader
and Cisco is losing share. Competition from local companies is growing. Hardware prices are dropping 15% to 20% year to
year; though one source said Polycom‟s price remains stable.
CTO for a U.S. SMB, Cisco user; repeat source
Polycom‟s focus is on large end users, which was successful when they could under-bid Tandberg, but an end-user shift
to using laptops and personal devices does not play to that strength. The source‟s expectations for Cisco have remained
the same since Blueshift‟s November 22 report—flat to up 5% to 10%. The overall market‟s future depends on
interoperability and ease-of-use. The trend is away from centralized IT and toward cloud-based and free systems. The
Callway system is good value for money, and the source links its sales directly to the video quality during product
demonstrations.
“Cisco is still in line with the last time we spoke, flat to up 5% to 10%—on a growth curve but there won‟t be
exponential growth.”
“Cisco has some bright spots and … I don‟t see them losing share.”
“Polycom does better with larger organizations, same as Tandberg did.
When they market to large organizations with defined-use cases,
Tandberg came in at or over budget and Polycom a little below.
Polycom plays well there, but it‟s not the future. The future is bring-
your-own-device. There is a shift away from central IT—to cloud and free
interworking like Skype.”
“Polycom doesn‟t have the level of software and service to extend to
the level of their product that Cisco does.”
“Interoperability is the Holy Grail: multi-vendor video without having to
know who has what.”
“Cisco‟s Jabber Video is taking a needed step. It‟s a lower-entry to
desktop. … It‟s not zero effort, it doesn‟t come already installed, but
previously the software had to be bought as part of Movi. It‟s an
attempt to solve the problem of, „How do I invite someone not on my
enterprise on this video call?‟”
“Cisco has been up front about the quality—it depends on the network conditions, it might be lower-quality for
free users.”
“The quality of our video conferencing [via Callway] is very important for us. We can link it directly to our sales. If
you are using your video conferencing just to enable meetings, how are you measuring your return? That‟s where
some companies are falling down—they are taking travel money and allotting it to video, but beyond that?
Where‟s the big ROI? We measure the minutes used and the number of demos of our products.”
Polycom does better with larger
organizations, same as
Tandberg did. … Polycom plays
well there, but it‟s not the
future. The future is bring-your-
own-device. There is a shift
away from central IT—to cloud
and free interworking like
Skype.
CTO, SMB, Cisco User
U.S.
Polycom Inc.
321 Pacific Ave., San Francisco, CA 94111 | www.blueshiftideas.com
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“Callway is very affordable. … We found it to be in the area of $100 per month for our endpoint and enterprise.
Adding desktop was also very inexpensive. Even if it were more expensive, we would still consider it over having
to dedicate hardware, pay license fees, etc.”
“We got six months free desktop video with Callway. Since we last spoke, we‟ve added a second endpoint—so
three room-based in total, two of which are C40s. There was no price difference. We budgeted the same and
that‟s what came through. It‟s still good value for the money and we‟re happy. We are now paying about $50 per
month for desktop. For reps using it to advance sales, it‟s a no brainer.”
“Callway, plus Cisco‟s lower-cost endpoints, really plays better in the SMB space than I thought. … I think that
the UI ease of use and the ease of provisioning will really help Cisco‟s offerings to SMB. Callway is really the key
here.”
“[Cisco] is lowering the level of entry with handsets that are video enabled. They‟re sliding them in with
customers with the same priced handset.”
“With hosted video providers, I wonder about bandwidth and resilience.”
System administrator for a networking consortium in research and education; repeat source
Room-based video conferencing systems will be flat for Polycom and Cisco, and up 10% overall during 2012. Soft clients,
mobile devices and smartphones will experience higher growth. Cisco is beating Polycom on quality, lower pricing on
superior Tandberg products and their free soft client Jabber. Cisco is also in the best position to reap the benefit of
mobile solutions despite not offering one yet. Polycom has reliability issues which are turning up in their RealPresence
offering as well, and Vidyo is growing but has not taken off as expected. Interoperability for small competitors and
expensive hardware for major players remain sticking points in the industry.
“Sales of high-end room systems will be flat for Polycom and Cisco.
Historically, Tandberg is the Cadillac while Polycom is the Chevrolet.
Cisco lowered prices to be competitive with Polycom. With Tandberg‟s
reputation for quality matched with Polycom‟s pricing, more sales will
go to Cisco.”
“Overall video conferencing growth will continue, and the 10% I said for
your November report could be right for room system models. Soft
client, mobile devices, smartphones are going to grow more than that.
Vidyo was the first mover, the first to have a useable iPad client.
Polycom was the first to have standards-based mobile clients. But Cisco
will end up [being in the] best [position]. They are waiting and will
release a polished solution and the free service is just to whet the
appetite.”
“Polycom needs to repair their reputation in terms of reliability. They
need to answer what Cisco has done with their soft client.”
“Polycom is going in the right direction with the iPhone RealPresence
but it‟s confusing to the end user. They download it, but then are
prompted to log into a server, which they don‟t understand. We haven‟t
tried it yet, but these kinds of problems speak to the broader reliability
[issues] across the product line.”
“Polycom also needs to be forward looking. … You pay for [hardware]
custom development and design, and there are two things that are
changing making this model obsolete: off-the-shelf hardware is more
powerful, taking away from the need for custom products—like what
Blue Jeans [Network Inc.] does—and people moving toward routing
MCU [Multipoint Control Unit] instead of transcoding MCU. … It‟s the same end result, just more cost effective.
Polycom needs to embrace this strategy.”
“Cisco is lowering their lower-end pricing to compete with Polycom. The bridges are more expensive but more
reliable. Polycom‟s bridge [pricing] is where they were before, but to make a big change, they need change the
MCU model.”
“Polycom is losing on desktop. Tandberg has a nice, exec desktop unit and Polycom‟s is kind of a joke. It‟s too
expensive and not as good as Cisco.”
Sales of high-end room
systems will be flat for Polycom
and Cisco. Historically,
Tandberg is the Cadillac while
Polycom is the Chevrolet. Cisco
lowered prices to be
competitive with Polycom. With
Tandberg‟s reputation for
quality matched with Polycom‟s
pricing, more sales will go to
Cisco. … Polycom is losing on
desktop. Tandberg has a nice,
exec desktop unit and
Polycom‟s is kind of a joke. It‟s
too expensive and not as good
as Cisco.
System Administrator
Networking Consortium
Polycom Inc.
321 Pacific Ave., San Francisco, CA 94111 | www.blueshiftideas.com
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“LifeSize—the Yugo in this lineup—is coming in at the bottom end. It‟s a perfectly useable product with
aggressive pricing.”
“Vidyo is still there and growing. … They haven‟t demonstrated the value of their interoperability, and are staying
as an island. Like Skype. Vidyo-to-Vidyo uses, but they need more bridging between islands. A lot of interest, but
it hasn‟t taken off exponentially, and I‟m left wondering, „Why haven‟t they?‟”
“The most interesting thing since we spoke last is Cisco‟s change in direction in its video offerings. TelePresence
focused on a legacy telephone carrier model. In order to deploy, you needed to be connected to a carrier
exchange as opposed to the Internet. It was high quality, but expensive. It wasn‟t a good model for [Cisco‟s]
market share. They sold a few to people who could afford it, but it was a high-cost solution. They started to
address this failed approach when they acquired Tandberg. … The capability to dial URLs—dial over the
Internet—not to an AT&T exchange was a fundamental shift.”
“Polycom is highly flexible, but that has meant less reliability, more issues with their infrastructure, based on our
use. But it‟s tough to say if that is why their revenue is down.”
“In November, we were discussing Polycom and Microsoft. I‟m not sure how Microsoft is going to leverage Skype
in conjunction with the Polycom offerings. It‟s possible that Microsoft will use Skype and Polycom will fall by the
wayside.”
“Cisco has announced the beta for the free Jabber video service, a Skype competitor, out maybe next month. It‟s
a rebranding of Tandberg‟s Movi product. Before, you had to buy the back end. … It‟s the first time a high-quality
interop soft client will be free. The main difference between this and Skype is you can call into all the systems.
With Skype, you can only call Skype or whoever they are linked to, like Blue Jeans.”
“We are bringing Cisco into the suite of interoperable solutions. We bought a new bridge from Cisco with other
Cisco products to go with it. We use Polycom internally, their endpoints, and have a lot deployed.”
“One thing that Polycom has that no one else has is Polycom Director. It automates camera tracking with two
cameras that switch back and forth to zoom in on the person speaking and zooming out [on the entire room].
But our companies stay in their office for conference calls instead of going to a conference room. … With
conference rooms, you can have six people calling together, and with video in their office, 25 people are on the
call. But it‟s a bigger load on the infrastructure. That‟s where costs are going. [The cost of] building out a
conference room [vs. the cost] to build the infrastructure.”
President of a language translation service; repeat source
Cisco was the shoo-in when this small end user was about to pick a vendor in Blueshift‟s November 22 report but the
source has since found their system cost prohibitive. The runner-up, Vidyo, is also out and Polycom was never considered
because of an unprofessional salesman. The source is researching a hosted solution—which he says more SMBs are
doing to save money—and avoiding buying expensive hardware while still getting the technology and security he needs.
“Cisco is out and Vidyo is somewhat in the loop but not really. I am looking at other technological aspects, and
video is not the only thing we are considering. I‟m looking for technology and security, not just a low-cost
alternative. The quality of the visuals is important. And security is more important than anything else.”
“Cisco was too cost prohibitive, so we are looking for a hosted solution. In order for Polycom and Cisco to stay on
top, they have to join the crowd. The economy is tight right now and
businesses are finding alternatives to save money. They are turning
more to hosted solutions to do that. That‟s not in Polycom‟s offerings.”
“It has been a long road to get to this point. We are about to open a 20-
person call center, and I need a unified solution with audio and video.”
“The hosted solution I am considering allows me to avoid buying
hardware as it is provided by the vendor. It‟s plug and play. The initial
contract would be for 24 months.”
“Polycom has a lot of great products. There is nothing wrong with them;
I just had a bad experience with the salesperson not being
professional. The person I was talking to was not familiar with customer
service and technology.”
“What has caught my eye is the video conferencing market creating
great partnerships with small business to help them grow. They need to
provide solutions so the SMBs can get into the market with the money
they have.”
Polycom has a lot of great
products. There is nothing
wrong with them; I just had a
bad experience with the
salesperson not being
professional. The person I was
talking to was not familiar with
customer service and
technology.
President
Language Translation Service
Polycom Inc.
321 Pacific Ave., San Francisco, CA 94111 | www.blueshiftideas.com
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Director for the Chinese edition of a U.S. publication; repeat source
Cisco is losing market share, and Polycom is still the top supplier of video conferencing systems. It may face challenges
from high-quality local brands like ZTE Corp. (SHE:000063) and Huawei, but right now due to stable large enterprises‟
customers, Polycom is still gaining share. The video conferencing hardware price has decreased 15% from the same
period of last year, though Polycom‟s price has remained stable.
“The video conferencing market in 2012 is expected to grow by 20% in China, almost the same rate as last
year.”
“The price of Polycom this year won‟t change too much, at the same
level with last year. Polycom is the technological leadership in this area
and has excellent performance.”
“In the whole market of video conferencing, prices decreased around
15% this year compared to last and the price change will cause a
reduction in profit for these companies.”
“Cisco is losing market share, and Polycom and medium-size
companies are gaining market share.”
“New technologies and a reliable virtual network terminal may subvert
the fixed place of the video conferencing market. The high price of fixed
terminal equipment and expensive endpoints hardware will test Polycom.”
“Polycom is the top video conferencing supplier, with a considerable advantage in both hardware and software,
and it has very stable customers like government and large enterprises. In the future, it may face pressure from
the low-end smart and convenient mobile video conferencing suppliers like Vidyo. The domestic video
conferencing industry is very competitive and grows with produce homogeneity.”
“Domestic brands like ZTE, Huawei and PPMEET all guarantee high security, stability and high video quality and
the prices are much lower than Polycom. In the future, those domestic brands may threaten Polycom.”
“Polycom‟s price is lower than Cisco‟s but higher than other domestic brands.”
Consultant in China for a human resources consulting firm using Polycom; repeat source
The video conferencing market in China is expected to grow by 50% this year due to the demand from small cities.
Polycom in China faces challenges from local brands as state-owned companies and private companies in China prefer to
use local brands. Polycom‟s prices are usually a little lower than Cisco‟s. The equipment prices in China have dropped
down 20% this year.
“Video conferencing will become more and more popular in China as the market is confronting AP/Global HQ
transfer, which will require more communication to home countries. Meanwhile, China‟s second- and third-tier
cities are also becoming headquarters as business centers try to reduce first-tier city labor costs. Because of
that, industry growth will be at least 50% in China.”
“For middle- or junior-level products, pricing may fall due to competition, while high-level products and some
customized products will see a price increase.”
“Video conferencing equipment prices decreased 20% for the first half of 2012 compared to 2011.”
“Midsize providers have a greater risk as they don‟t have the top brands like the industry leaders nor do they
have the cost advantage of local vendors.”
“Currently all the providers are gaining share as the market is big. Going forward, top brands may slow down as
state-owned and private companies won‟t choose international vendors.”
“Polycom needs to develop more customers among local Chinese clients.”
“Cisco is more popular with its brand and mature products. Polycom is young and more aggressive in the
Chinese market, while the system and product needs to be improved.”
“Polycom needs to find the critical competitive advantage over competitors, whether it is in products, technical
delivery or service.”
4) INDUSTRY SPECIALISTS Six sources said Polycom faces an uphill battle to maintain its market share. The video conferencing market is shifting and
Polycom is being left behind. There is a move toward integrated solutions where Cisco and Avaya excel while Polycom sells
Cisco is losing market share,
and Polycom and medium-size
companies are gaining market
share.
Director, Chinese Edition
U.S. Publication
Polycom Inc.
321 Pacific Ave., San Francisco, CA 94111 | www.blueshiftideas.com
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stand-alone products. Desktop and mobile solutions are growing faster than Polycom‟s bread and butter of in-room systems.
Video conferencing is becoming less formal, giving rise to low-end providers and driving down prices, two disadvantages for
Polycom. One source said Polycom‟s sales defections have hurt more than anticipated, and they need a partner to help move
beyond the hardware-only solution.
Principal at telecom consultancy firm focused on IP communications
Polycom is not successfully competing in the growing video conferencing market. While the company may be able to
change its fortunes, it‟s trying to sell independent products in a market that is now looking for integrated solutions.
Polycom still has a strong brand and valuable patents, and is more likely to be acquired in a few years than succeed in
the market on its own. Competition from the free video conferencing services market is driving prices downward for mid-
range equipment, while high-end luxury systems remain price insensitive. The video conferencing market will continue to
span a wide range of technology and price points, but desktop and mobile systems will grow more than in-room systems.
Physical equipment will continue to exist for some time, but will inevitably be virtualized as users become more
accustomed to easy and cheap video conferencing.
“Video conferencing is becoming very big. It‟s not a luxury anymore,
and there are several competing technologies. There is a market for
stand-alone video—and that‟s what Polycom knows how to do—but
there are lots of stand-alone video plays now, and they‟re mostly on the
desktop.”
“The future is in systems solutions. There‟s potential for the video
conferencing market to be balanced, with Cisco and the desktop
providers at each end. There is still a big need for group-based
communications.”
“Desktop and mobile are growing more than in-room video. It‟s a
demand-driven market now. Customers have become comfortable with
the idea of conferencing due to social media. A lot of people were hung
up on video being complex, but now it‟s just as easy as a phone call,
just as cheap as an email. Which makes things that much harder on
Polycom.”
“The market has moved away from hardware, and it‟s hard for
hardware-based companies to transition. That said, physical equipment
will be around for years to come, but sooner or later it will become
virtualized.”
“Polycom is going to be taken out by somebody. The phone biz is not
viable anymore, and consolidation is inevitable.”
“Polycom‟s patents and brands may be of interest. Polycom has very
strong relationships with its current customers. Their footprint is big, so
they would be an attractive acquisition candidate at some point. ”
“Nortel was a dominant player in switching in its day, and Polycom is comparable in the video conferencing
world. Both companies have survived changes, but Nortel didn‟t have the DNA to adapt to those changes. I think
Polycom is different. It has a very strong market presence, which you can‟t discount, and they have very strong
research and development.”
“TelePresence is pretty cool when you experience it. It‟s like HD; once you‟ve seen it, you don‟t go back. The
experience is almost life-size.”
“There is continual downward pressure on pricing because the quality and popularity of free alternatives is
growing.”
“I‟m not sure the LifeSize brand is going to survive. It may be subsumed into Logitech.”
President at a telecom and business strategy consultancy firm; former industry executive
Video conferencing and unified communications are growing and changing due to increasing wireless bandwidth.
Polycom needs to change the nature of the products it has offered in order to adapt to the market. Polycom is known for
making stand-alone products, but the market is moving toward solution systems, where Cisco and Avaya excel. Polycom
has set standards for endpoint devices like handsets and conference phones, but these are being commoditized.
Polycom may need to focus on services and central equipment such as media servers, management software, and
Desktop and mobile are
growing more than in-room
video. It‟s a demand-driven
market now. Customers have
become comfortable with the
idea of conferencing due to
social media. A lot of people
were hung up on video being
complex, but now it‟s just as
easy as a phone call, just as
cheap as an email. Which
makes things that much harder
on Polycom. … The market has
moved away from hardware,
and it‟s hard for hardware-
based companies to transition.
Principal, Telecom Consultancy Firm,
IP communications Focus
Polycom Inc.
321 Pacific Ave., San Francisco, CA 94111 | www.blueshiftideas.com
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archival systems. Polycom may be helped by its alignment with Microsoft. If video conferencing takes off on Lync, the
Microsoft service could quickly become the largest video community in the world, which would benefit Polycom.
“Polycom has had a reputation in the industry as being a quick-hit product company. They build one great
product, not a solution system. Cisco and Avaya are more systems-oriented. The CEO is trying to take Polycom in
a different direction, but we‟ll see how that goes.”
“Video conferencing was predominantly an overlay purchase. The
purchase was made separately from the phones, sometimes by totally
different buyers. Being unaligned was an advantage for Polycom then.
That‟s begun to change. Having those two systems integrated together
becomes critical. The challenge that may be coming is that Cisco and
Avaya, and to a lesser extent Siemens [A.G./SI], can tell customers,
„You should be looking at our system.‟”
“We are coming to a time when the three kinds of bandwidth—wireless,
nomadic Wi-Fi, and wireline—become very cost effective. There‟s not a
huge cost increase for using video instead of audio. You can add video
to any communications device.”
“For Polycom, their focus in video is in enterprise systems. Their
opposition is in smaller device sizes, the mid-market of video. Apple
and Microsoft are going to have video solutions for their devices, so the
question for Polycom is, „How do you integrate with and make money
off those devices?‟”
“The alignment with Microsoft helps Polycom. Only a few of Lync‟s three
million users use video. If 50% of them embraced it, it would be the single biggest video conferencing
community in the world.”
“The endpoint devices are becoming less valuable. The midmarket will commoditize the lower end of the
market. Room systems will still have high value, but there‟s a fixed number of those in place.”
“Polycom builds endpoints, but those endpoints call to other components. Polycom can build the media servers
at the core of the system, meeting management software, or archives so you can look at the 30 seconds of the
meeting your co-worker told you that you should see. Avaya and Cisco are going there, but will Polycom?”
“SIP endpoint devices could be important. Most of them use Polycom hardware, so Polycom is the standard
there. The SIP companies subsidize the hardware so they can sell services. That‟s good news and bad news for
Polycom, since subsidized sales are always in danger.”
“HD Video was expensive three years ago. You can get it now in an iPad for $499.”
Publisher, telepresence trade journal
Growth in the overall video conferencing market remains robust. However,
recent salesteam defections wounded Polycom more deeply than many
commentators believe. The company‟s outlook as a pure video
conferencing play in a space increasingly inhabited by full-spectrum
technology giants is troubled at best. Instead of absorbing Hewlett-
Packard‟s video conferencing business, Polycom should simply have
courted a larger acquisition partner. Vidyo may be the most relevant stand-
alone vendor left, as it continues to open up new markets.
“This is a healthy and vital space growing at a rate of maybe 20%
a year. But the people growing that market and benefiting from
that growth aren‟t the specialized vendors like Polycom anymore.
The growth is up and down market from them, but in the middle
there‟s an ominous silence.”
“Polycom was already hurting for new business and then people
started jumping from their sales team midquarter. They lost some
key people, including the head of their educational and
government sales force. These are long-lead-time markets,
relationships that take years to nurse and more time than
Polycom has had a reputation
in the industry as being a quick-
hit product company. They
build one great product, not a
solution system. Cisco and
Avaya are more systems-
oriented. The CEO is trying to
take Polycom in a different
direction, but we‟ll see how that
goes.
President, Telecom & Business
Strategy Consultancy Firm
Polycom was already hurting for new
business and then people started
jumping from their sales team
midquarter. They lost some key
people, including the head of their
educational and government sales
force. These are long-lead-time
markets, relationships that take years
to nurse and more time than Polycom
has to rebuild. I don‟t think we‟ll see
many more press releases about
schools signing up for awhile. … It‟s
really a potentially crippling loss that I
don‟t think the Polycom cheerleaders
have heard or even understand.
Publisher, Telepresence Trade Journal
Polycom Inc.
321 Pacific Ave., San Francisco, CA 94111 | www.blueshiftideas.com
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Polycom has to rebuild. I don‟t think we‟ll see many more press releases about schools signing up for awhile.”
“What‟s painful about these people leaving Polycom is that the company had already been trying for a few
months to restructure and revitalize its sales efforts. No surprise, since they need to change things up there and
start bringing in contracts again. Unfortunately, these people had already made the cut and were considered the
bedrock of the new configuration. Now that they‟re gone, the company is probably not only back at ground zero
but left with even less than it had to begin with. It‟s really a potentially crippling loss that I don‟t think the
Polycom cheerleaders have heard or even understand.”
“Polycom is really the last hardware-oriented company in this space. They‟ve tried hard to grow out beyond
hardware, but the legacy remains. All the other vendors from the hardware side have been absorbed into much
larger and more all-encompassing organizations. This isn‟t news, but Polycom had a few years to grow into
something larger and might have missed the mark.”
“You had Radvision, but Avaya just took them off the table. Polycom needs a partner fast. The sad thing is that
they could have teamed up with Hewlett-Packard but that deal didn‟t bring Polycom into the HP family. It only
made Polycom bigger and in some ways harder for a would-be buyer to digest. Now it‟s got more moving parts
and a lot more mass and not much else to show for it.”
“Now you have giants: Cisco with Tandberg, Avaya with Radvision,
Microsoft. Will Microsoft buy Polycom? That might be ideal. And you
have Google [Inc./GOOG] doing whatever it‟s doing with conferencing.
But until recently, Google was never a hardware company, so that‟s the
piece of Polycom that would choke a potential deal on that side.”
“The giants are winning massive share in the teleconferencing market
because they‟re starting from low bases and have huge enterprise IT
buy-in behind them. Tell a procurement officer that Radvision has
Avaya behind it or Tandberg has Cisco behind it, and the decision gets
a lot easier. Polycom doesn‟t have that luxury.”
“And there are all these start-ups and fringe vendors that are actually
growing the market. The „traditional‟ enterprise conferencing market is
maybe growing by 7% to 10% a year, about where Polycom sales have
gone. It‟s stalled out, in technology sector terms. But the real growth in
conferencing is rocketing ahead by over 20% to 25% a year. That‟s the
start-ups converting small businesses and larger hold-outs, one
account at a time.”
“Vidyo, Blue Jeans Networks, SalesCrunch, all the software-only
vendors that don‟t sell a fancy camera, don‟t care about ultra-HD office
home theater—these are the vendors that are expanding the conference market and making new share for
themselves. Most of them will sputter and/or get bought out themselves. It‟s the way any new segment evolves.”
“Vidyo is fantastic because it addresses how people actually live and work now. That‟s funny because Vidyo has
actually been in this business for close to a decade now but purely on the software and networking side. It‟s a
convergent home/office solution that scales up to enterprise but starts at Skype-like levels. It costs, what, $5 a
month? A Polycom package can cost $5,000 and that‟s just for the starting equipment. Bandwidth and service
are extra.”
“Independent market segments emerge, flourish for awhile, get absorbed into something else. Remember when
the world was full of stand-alone email vendors? That‟s where teleconferencing is going. Cisco loves this
business because it sells bandwidth. The application is just the sizzle on that steak. Microsoft loves it because it
sells applications. The hardware is just the sizzle. And so on. That‟s where the real success is in this business
and it‟s where the real money will be made once video calling becomes truly ubiquitous.”
Analyst, independent technology strategy group
Adoption of videoconferencing technology is now being driven from the employees, not management. This renders top-
down solutions vendors like Polycom irrelevant in a modern enterprise environment.
“Employees are the leaders as new unified communications strategies emerge from the bottom of the
organization and spread along viral vectors. Applications must embrace the iPhone and iPad or other mobile
platforms in order to succeed and generate ROI for the organization. Polycom doesn‟t get this, or if they do, it
may scare them.”
The giants are winning massive
share in the teleconferencing
market because they‟re
starting from low bases and
have huge enterprise IT buy-in
behind them. Tell a
procurement officer that
Radvision has Avaya behind it
or Tandberg has Cisco behind
it, and the decision gets a lot
easier. Polycom doesn‟t have
that luxury.
Publisher, Telepresence Trade Journal
Polycom Inc.
321 Pacific Ave., San Francisco, CA 94111 | www.blueshiftideas.com
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“Sit-down formal video conferencing was the transformative technology a decade ago. Now it‟s as much an
entrenched piece of the old corporate environment as anything else, and it‟s currently being subsumed by more
radical, informal and universal video channels. I would expect to see platforms like FaceTime and Skype and
Google Chat or the „hangout‟ feature on Google Plus growing at spectacular rates. Formal video conferencing
may still be growing in absolute terms, but its momentum is being sapped from within.”
“In terms of ROI, nobody needs rich and fully-rendered streaming high-
definition video. That‟s seen as an extravagance and an actual
impediment to productivity. You don‟t need to see every twitch on your
co-workers‟ faces. They don‟t want you to see every twitch. It makes
them less eager to participate in the meeting, and if you have to corral
everyone into the conference room anyway to talk on the screen, why
not just corral everyone to talk face to face?”
“The tablet screen is „good enough.‟ It‟s more fun and it encourages
24/7 unified communication—meetings any time. There‟s no fuss, no
corralling. It‟s not the high-definition experience companies like
Polycom offer, but who wants that but the CEO? And what does it
generate but revenue for the hosting company charging you by the
minute? That‟s the business companies like Cisco and Avaya are
hungry to capture. That‟s the captive cloud opportunity.”
“In tablet, I like Vidyo but really, I just like Skype and FaceTime. And
Google keeps trying to crack the code, now with Gtalk. You have other
vendors like Tango. These are the applications that have the potential
to get real enterprise buy-in, no matter how much money they spend on
$6,000 webcams. The phones already have video cameras and their
employees already have phones.”
“The dedicated hardware vendors have maybe another year of capturing older and slower accounts, but in the
meantime the employee-driven mobile video call is going viral. The next generation of executives won‟t see the
point in gathering everyone into the conference room to deliver a PowerPoint presentation. They‟ll beam the
demonstration across all the phones. And they won‟t renew their Polycom contracts or replace the technology
when it wears out or breaks down.”
Editor-in-chief of networking industry website
The source recently commissioned a study of unified communications that included the video conferencing market. He
found moderate growth, but believes that growth has been overhyped by Cisco in a bid to sell increased capacity. A large
portion of video conferencing growth is happening at the low-cost bring-your-own-device level. Younger users like
students are accustomed to video communication using desktop computers and mobile devices. TelePresence is a slick
technology and popular with those who use it, but it is too expensive for broad adoption. Price competition between
brands is part of video conferencing purchase decisions, but it‟s not as important to buyers as maintainability, scalability
and security.
“I don‟t think the video conferencing market has changed much in the last few months. It‟s progressing, and
some buyers are further along in stitching their communications together than others.”
“The interesting thing, I think, is that all the talk about video is Cisco hype. They keep telling us about the
bandwidth demands of video, but I‟m not sure that demand is really there.”
“Pricing is pretty far down the list of what people care about. Maintainability, scalability and security are more
important. Cost is a component of the buying decision, but it‟s not a top-five item.”
“There‟s a lot going on that isn‟t sanctioned by institutions. In higher education, students have their own gear,
Skype and FaceTime for instance. The schools are just supplying the pipe. Schools are very interested in
equipment for video-based coursework, though.”
Support engineer at lower-cost communications solution provider
Polycom is in a fundamentally different business than its lower-cost competitors. Polycom is really a hardware company,
and its strengths are phone handsets and wireless headsets, not software or services. Polycom‟s growth is not
dependent on video conferencing. Video conferencing will not drive the unified communications market, but the market
is growing and will grow faster as the economy improves and new businesses need communications. His company
Sit-down formal video
conferencing was the
transformative technology a
decade ago. … It‟s currently
being subsumed by more
radical, informal and universal
video channels. I would expect
to see platforms like FaceTime
and Skype and Google Chat or
the „hangout‟ feature on Google
Plus growing at spectacular
rates.
Analyst
Independent Tech Strategy Group
Polycom Inc.
321 Pacific Ave., San Francisco, CA 94111 | www.blueshiftideas.com
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experienced double-digit growth last year, driven by new businesses embracing
new technology. Lower-cost software-driven companies have a competitive edge
in that situation.
“We have a lot of desktop users, because all you need is the software
and a webcam. It‟s not really meant for conference rooms. We use
LifeSize internally. If someone said video conferencing, I‟d think
LifeSize, not Polycom.”
“What I‟m familiar with Polycom for is phone handsets—they‟re one of
the largest providers—and wireless headsets. They are pretty much a
hardware company that happens to make software.”
“In the IP PBX sector, growth is going to continue. It‟ll scale with the
economy because new businesses need new phones. Small businesses
are more likely to invest in a new technology solution.”
“I‟ve got a lot of legacy systems to deal with, but it‟s getting hard to buy
an old digital PBX.”
“There are two distinct video conferencing industries, personal and
corporate. Skype rules the personal world— we even support Skype trunking. But there‟s not much impetus to
improve video conferencing in the corporate world.”
“We‟ve never used video conferencing on a regular basis within the company. Maybe for going away parties, but
what does it add to the conversation? On a professional level, it‟s not that important. Maybe it would be for a
sales group, or human resources, or administration.”
“There are some real fundamental changes happening in telephony, and that‟s exciting.”
Secondary Sources
Secondary sources show Blue Jeans Network, iPad and the bring-your-own-device movement redefining unified
communications at the enterprise level with increased interoperability, versatility and portability, and decreased costs.
March 21 TechCrunch article
Blue Jeans Network offers a lower-cost competitive videoconferencing product, which aims to eliminate more expensive
legacy devices with its cloud-based solution.
“Having sold two companies to Cisco, Krish Ramakrishnan knows what it takes to compete with the venerable
networking giant.”
“After leaving Cisco for the second time to be an entrepreneur in residence at Accel Partners, he started Blue
Jeans Network three years ago to compete in the video conferencing space. They soon rolled out a product that
connects people for video meetings regardless of whether they use Skype, Google Hangouts, Cisco or Polycom.”
“Now Blue Jeans is digging in deep with a new product meant to kill those expensive video conferencing units
called MCUs or multipoint control units, that can cost north of $250,000.”
“„This is a $700 million market. We‟re just following a trend in industry where people‟s infrastructure just
disappears into the cloud,‟ he said in an interview. „It‟s my intention to take the oxygen out of the traditional
MCU unit. Just shrink it. The industry doesn‟t need legacy-type devices.‟”
“The new service, which he calls an „MCU Killer,‟ starts at $299 per port (or per party involved in calls). He‟s
already signed up 250 enterprise clients including Facebook, Foursquare, Stanford University and MIT, that want
a cloud-based video conference solution that they can easily scale up or down depending on the number of
people who need to use it. With old MCU units, they‟d usually pay for several devices or ports up-front, even if
they didn‟t end up needing them down the line.”
“Even if he cuts this $700 million market down significantly, Ramakrishnan is optimistic that the lower barriers
to entry will bring many more new customers into the market.”
“„Maybe the hardware market will disappear, but Blue Jeans is about expanding the usage of video,‟ he said.”
“The Mountain View, Calif.-based company has raised $23.5 million from Accel Partners, NEA and Norwest
Venture Partners.”
We have a lot of desktop users,
because all you need is the
software and a webcam. It‟s
not really meant for conference
rooms. We use LifeSize
internally. If someone said
video conferencing, I‟d think
LifeSize, not Polycom.
Support Engineer
Lower-cost Communications Solution
Provider
Polycom Inc.
321 Pacific Ave., San Francisco, CA 94111 | www.blueshiftideas.com
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March 21 Tech.Fortune article
Blue Jeans Network is taking on Polycom and Cisco by providing video conferencing interoperability and replacing
multipoint control units with a less expensive cloud-based solution.
“Videoconferencing has become (almost) mainstream, but there are still plenty of challenges getting different
technologies like Cisco's TelePresence and Skype to work together. In industry-speak, that's called
interoperability -- or lack thereof.”
“Enter Blue Jeans Network, a Mountain View, Calif.-based startup that says it's found a solution to the problem.
The company makes money by selling a cloud-based service that enables everyday Skype or Google Chat users
to videoconference with users of much pricier room-based systems—sort of like an audio bridge for video calls.”
“Up until recently, Blue Jeans wasn't competing with the makers of videoconferencing solutions, like Cisco and
Polycom. It was just providing a web-based tool for customers of the various video vendors to conference with
each other, even if they weren't using the same equipment. But now the small company is trying to position its
product as an alternative to at least one slice of the underlying video infrastructure pie, multipoint control units
(MCUs), or devices that enable videoconferences between three or more users.”
“Traditional MCUs connect between large videoconferencing systems,
and don't work with desktop or mobile solutions like Skype. Blue Jeans
started out allowing different flavors of videoconferencing technology
to work together, but says it realized along the way that its service can
also replace MCUs. To that end, on Wednesday Blue Jeans said it plans
to market its cloud-based service as an MCU replacement by licensing
virtual ports for $300 a pop (each endpoint, like a Skype user on a
laptop or employees in a Cisco TelePresence room, will require its own
port).”
“At least on the surface, the new pricing structure seems more
marketing ploy than actual innovation—the underlying product is still
the same, just packaged differently. But according to Blue Jeans, IT
professionals aren't used to buying videoconferencing capabilities by
the minute, which is one way the company has sold its service up until
now.”
“„At the end of the day we think what we're doing makes the
videoconferencing market bigger,‟ says Stu Aaron, chief commercial
officer at Blue Jeans. „Everybody's benefiting from a bigger pie, but
there will be winners and losers. And yes, there is some admitted
overlap with a piece of their [video equipment makers] portfolio.‟”
“Cisco—one of the largest players in videoconferencing infrastructure,
including MCUs—says it's working on „industry standardization efforts and the next generation of interoperability
protocols.‟”
“„Presently the business-to-business telepresence market does have broad interoperability among the primary
vendors (including Polycom, LifeSize and others),‟ OJ Winge, senior vice president and general manager of
Cisco's collaboration endpoints technology group, said in an emailed statement. „Cisco's perspective is that
interoperability needs to be standards-driven, ensuring ease of use and maximum return on customers'
investments.‟”
“Interestingly, Cisco is fighting Microsoft's proposed acquisition of Skype, on grounds that the duo's technologies
don't play nice with competing videoconferencing tools.”
“Meanwhile, Blue Jeans says it is the „only multipoint bridging solution that can allow a single video conference
to include participants on room-based systems, desktops, and mobile devices that are running a variety of
popular business and consumer video endpoints from Cisco, Polycom, Skype, Microsoft, LifeSize, Google, and
more.‟”
“It's still early days for Blue Jeans. The company launched its service just last June, after raising $23.5 million
from Accel Partners, New Enterprise Associates, and Norwest Venture Partners. But companies like Foursquare
are already using Blue Jeans to make video calls between Cisco TelePresence users in the office and employees
using Skype on the go.”
“„We could easily have two Cisco units in our offices talking to each other but someone in Kentucky wouldn't be
able to join the conversation,‟ says Derek Stewart, Foursquare's director of finance and operations.”
Up until recently, Blue Jeans
wasn't competing with the
makers of videoconferencing
solutions, like Cisco and
Polycom. … But now the small
company is trying to position its
product as an alternative to at
least one slice of the underlying
video infrastructure pie,
multipoint control units (MCUs),
or devices that enable
videoconferences between
three or more users.
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“Despite Blue Jeans' push to position itself as an alternative to MCUs, the company is mostly an enhancement—
not a threat—to existing videoconference equipment makers. And whichever company ends up leading the
charge, there's no question that interoperability is an inevitable must in videoconferencing, just like it was in text
messaging on mobile phones. The more use corporate customers can get out of their videoconferencing
systems, the more they'll invest in buying them. That's good for Cisco, Polycom, Skype and Blue Jeans.”
April 10 No Jitter article
The new iPad is a quality video conferencing tool, as well as a replacement for any desktop telephony device. With its
versatility and portability as an added value, iPad gives little reason to invest in any other solution for enterprise video
conferencing needs.
“If I were a CIO and my telecom manager came to me with a PO for a bunch of traditional or „new‟ IP phones, we
would need to have a hard discussion about whether this was a good investment.”
“The announcement of the iPad3 really crystallized an interesting concept that has been on my mind for some
time; Why would anyone buy a new desktop telephony device for an office, or even a cubicle? While there may
be some places where a $150 basic phone is needed, for all of the rest, has the iPad has become an
overwhelming choice as the device to buy for office worker telephony?”
“The iPad2 is now $399. While this is „only‟ 16gigs, has no 3G and
does not have a retinal display or the new high resolution camera, it is
WAY better than any phone out there. And for $100 more you get one
of the best personal video conferencing devices in the iPad3 with a
true HD display and a great camera. And every vendor of telephony and
UC is rushing their iPad app into the market, with the commitment that
it will be a game changing experience for voice, video and
collaboration.”
“Now I know what some would say that the iPad is not really a „phone‟,
but let's examine this. For $100 you can buy the Altec Lansing Octiv
iPad base. It gives a great arm to hold the iPad at ideal
videoconferencing level with landscape or portrait settings, and has
really good speakers for that speakerphone experience when doing
video. Combine this and the iPad3 for a great personal video system
for $600.”
“While the iPad as a speakerphone works really well, for a little more
you can have a great headset, wired or Bluetooth. I prefer the
Plantronics Voyager/Savi as a headset.”
“If you prefer the more custom route, Shoretel is leading the charge in announcing a custom base for the iPad. I
expect to see iPad bases from most if not all of the big UC vendors soon, though the price point may be higher
than the consumer devices.”
“I have been using an iPad for most of my communications for the last 9 months and have found it to be very
reliable, has reasonable voice quality and works well as an office speakerphone. I use it with Skype and the
Avaya Flare client, and both have worked very well. Over that time I found that I stopped using my traditional
desk phone as I really got used to the display on the iPad and all of the information there in either app. The
FaceTime video experience is even better quality than Skype and I can't wait to use it with the higher resolution
and better display of the iPad3.”
“If you have a system with a thousand devices and you are adding 50, why not re-deploy 50 of your existing
devices and get 50 of your employees an iPad? Not only will their phone experience probably improve, but now
they can use the iPad for other functions...and take it with them and use it at home, on the road, at customer
sites, anywhere there is a WiFi network. Just think, for salespeople, a base and handset in a hoteling office now
becomes an open support for any salesperson with an iPad. And it really helps justify building out a great WiFi
infrastructure in your office, which will be a boon to all.”
“Keep the phones where only a basic phone is required and we probably already have enough of those to last a
career. Get the $400 iPad2, a $100 base and the $20 handset and give the users a $520 desk „phone‟ that
makes every other device out there look like it was designed for the last millennium, which they generally were.”
April 9 Network World article
You get one of the best
personal video conferencing
devices in the iPad3 with a true
HD display and a great camera.
And every vendor of telephony
and UC is rushing their iPad
app into the market, with the
commitment that it will be a
game changing experience for
voice, video and collaboration.
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A recent study on unified communications revealed that video is not as high a priority as voice and e-mail
communications for companies. The bring-your-own-device movement is gaining steam as it pushes companies forward
in their UC plans.
“Many companies haven't bothered to flesh out their unified communications strategies because 1) it can be
hard to calculate ROI, and 2) the deployment effort is often daunting given so much custom work is required to
piece together the various components that make up an integrated UC system.”
“Network World recently fielded a study on UC that provides a glimpse into how some buyers are approaching
the task. For example, when asked which technology they are using to build out UC, 43% of the 1,105
respondents said they are building from voice/telephone-centric systems. Second most popular was
messaging/email at 27%, while 13% were working to UC-enable specific applications. Only 4% are taking a
video-centric approach (3% said "other" and 10% said they weren't sure).”
“Asked whether they are using any cloud resources for the efforts, more than half (51%) said no, that they are
using private, on-premise UC tools, but 8% are relying on a managed
solution (where the customer still owns the infrastructure), while 9%
went with a hosted option and 22% are using a hybrid approach.”
“Some of the impetus to get going with UC is the bring-your-own-device
movement. Asked if the influx of consumer devices was accelerating
their UC plans, 20% said yes, significantly. Another 47% said yes,
somewhat, while 28% said no (and 5% said they weren't sure).”
“How about the importance of video in UC? Only 8% said video was
critical to their organization's approach to UC, but 28% said it was very
important and 41% said it was somewhat important. One-fifth of the
group said video was not important.”
“Given the difficulty of building an ROI case for UC, it isn't surprising
that cost/funding topped the list of biggest UC challenges, cited by
54% of the respondents, but many other impediments were also listed:
integration with existing infrastructure, 47%; lack of skill sets, 33%;
security concerns, 31%; bandwidth limitations, 27%; difficulty
extending UC to mobile workers, 24%; and integration issues with consumer devices, 21%.”
“In the meantime, of course, elements of UC keep creeping into the enterprise, whether there is a sanctioned
strategy or not. Bits show up in new application features, in new smartphone functions, and of course,
employees can stitch together their own environments using things like Google Voice. Do you wait to see what
develops, or do you get out ahead of it and plan accordingly?”
Next Steps
Blueshift‟s next report on video conferencing will monitor the erosion of formal conferencing among companies of all sizes
and the effect this will have on unified communications providers. We will determine if competition continues to hurt Polycom
or if Polycom‟s RealPresence can help it gain customers looking for mobile solutions. We will also follow up on management
and sales team changes at Polycom, and see if Cisco continues to gain market share. Finally, we will assess the industry
slowdown in China and its effect on Polycom and Cisco.
Additional research by Chris Aylott, Lindsay Gadsby, Scott Martin and Silvia Yu
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Some of the impetus to get
going with UC is the bring-your-
own-device movement. Asked if
the influx of consumer devices
was accelerating their UC
plans, 20% said yes,
significantly. Another 47% said
yes, somewhat, while 28% said
no.
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