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    Bisel:

    Hypoplastic lines- illness that child had, found on bones, on older individual bones so if you

    had an illness it would stay on your bones, even the rich and poor had these because there

    is no escaping illness of children died

    Bisel comments on the low birth rate and fertility rate and the high mortility rate inchildrenlead was used a lot in roman times and lead would lead to infertility

    They were relatively tall signifying that they had strong bones, because of a very healthy

    diet of fish and vegetables

    Really good teeth- because of the graze of food they ate, and because sugar wasnt in the

    west at that age. Didnt have as crowded teeth

    Studies done on skull- different skull sizes and variations showing the mixing of genes also

    showed an area of influx of genes between people

    Morly:

    Life in rome is nastier then most historians like to think, in the countryside was much

    healthier then the urban city because of immigrants coming in With certain diseases, the

    ormans were much better off then other nations

    Does pliney mention religion? Religion came up from regulus who pliny hates, and sooth

    sayersregulus was using the sooth sayers as a way to work himself into peoples wills and

    played on their feelings of religion and works his way into several peoples wills on their

    death bedso they sooth sayer made up saying they would live all rigged and then out of

    gratitude people would add regulus to will out of appreciation and then end up

    dyingPliny portrays religion as for the gullable people

    Eye infection on a trip: talks about turning the lights down, and how he had to stop reading

    and writing which was devastating, and just was drinking wine and relaxing in some ways

    self medicating

    How does he treat a slave: one of his slaves gets sick and starts vomiting blood (linked to

    tuberculosis) (most infectious diseases of Herculaneum at the time was TB and malaria etc)

    so he most likely had TB and pliney helped him and tried to get him feel better and said it

    would be a great losshe viewed him as a friend, this shows how romans viewed their

    slaves compared to other civilizationsromans relied on their slaves for familial reasons

    he gives treatment of a healthy climate rest and relaxation and thats all he could get

    Morley artice: role of doctors:

    Emperor agustus penalized married people who didnt have kids..and rewarded people

    with more than 3 kids and if a woman has 3 or more kids she has no male control and she

    can do whatever she wants

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    Peasants like big families for workbut in the city there is no benefit from having kids at all

    its a drag on moneythese kids had to be educated etc. known fact that when societies

    urbanize their birthrate plunges and this was an incredible era of urbanization, so little

    kids and low birth rates so they started bringing immigration in to make up for it

    Q. Differences between Pompeii and Herculaneum: morally; health etc

    The diets of the twoherculaneum ate more seafood so had more floride so thats

    why they are taller, and their water was harder so they had less lead in their water also the

    wine would be sweetened in led syrup (cheap mans sweetner) so they may also have had

    less wine as a sweetner in their wine in Herculaneumalso the hypoplastic lines on their

    teeth in (?) and Pompeii was coser to water so more malaria and this is shown on the

    hypoplastic lines

    Graffiti groups