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Introduction

Kors Bos, NIKHEF, AmsterdamGDB meeting @BNL, Sept.6 2006

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• Minutes of the June meeting at the GDB wiki page – https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/LCG/GridDeploymentBoard– Comments ?– Thank you Jeremy Coles !!

• Minutes, Summary and Actions now also on GDB wiki– https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/LCG/GridDeploymentBoard

• Actions from July meeting:– https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/bin/view/LCG/GdBActionList

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• NDGF as a new member of the GDB– Oxana will be the representative– Have to discuss formalities as NDGF is not a country– Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland continue to be members

• Apologies received– Mirco Mazzocato, Nick Brook, ..

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• Oct 4 GDB @CERN IT Aud.– Problem with eIRG meeting in Helsinki on Oct.4-5

• Nov 8 GDB @CERN Bld 60-6-002– Note unusual place: only phone, no vrvs

• Dec 6 GDB @CERN IT Aud.

Dates for 2006

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• Sept.11 OB @CERN– Closed meeting

• Sept.15 SC Tech.Mtng. @CERN– http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=3849

• Sept.21 LHC OPN@SURFnet in Utrecht– http://agenda.cern.ch/fullAgenda.php?ida=a062977

• Sept.25-26 LHCC Compr.Rev @CERN– http://agenda.cern.ch/fullAgenda.php?ida=a057132

• Sept.25-29 EGEE Proj.Conf in Geneva– http://egee-technical.web.cern.ch/egee-technical/conferences/EGEE06/

Other Dates for September 2006

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LCG GDB meetings in 2007To avoid confusion in 2007,

the GDB isalways on the first Wednesday of the month

• January 10• February 7• March 7• April 4 in Prague• May 2• June 6

• July 4• August 1• September 5• October 3• November 7• December 5

The CERN IT Auditorium has been reserved those days

CHEP2007Sept 2-7

Victoria BC

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LCG GDB meeting @Triumf in 2007

Hi Kors,

I forgot that I was supposed to contact you about having a GDB meeting at TRIUMF in association with CHEP'07. In talking to Randy Sobie, we thought the following would be good:

-- Friday, Aug.31: GDB at TRIUMF -- Saturday/Sunday, Sept. 1-2: LCG (Tier-2) meeting in Victoria -- Sept.3-7: CHEP'07 in Victoria

This would mean that people would have to fly in to Vancouver on Thursday. We can arrange for a bus from TRIUMF to the airport after the meeting on Friday so people can get to Victoria easily (30 minute flight). Alternately, we could have the bus drive everyone to Victoria via the ferry, which would be much more scenic. Let me know if this works; we can work out the details later.

Cheers, Mike Vetterli

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LCG Again and again… CERN migration to SLC4

• Change to SL4 64-bits needs a new version of VDT• Distribution still expected “in October” ?• Some LXPLUS and BATCH nodes already on SL4• SLC4 full rollout at CERN still “in the autumn” ? • Well planned transition period:

– When do the sites change over ?– When do the experiments change over ?– When do we stop the support for the SL3 version ?

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Task ForceCharter: to discuss the implementation of the storage

classes as defined for SRMv2.2 for the sitesPeople:

– Artem Trunov (IN2P3) Chair– Jan van Eldik (CERN) – Mark van de Sanden (SARA) – Artem Trunov (CMS and Alice, IN2P3) – Lionel Schwarz (IN2P3) – Graeme Stewart (Glasgow)– Jos van Wezel (GridKa) – Adrià Casajús (PIC) – Eileen Berman (FNAL)

Several phone meetings held during the summerFirst report given at the SRMv2 workshop last week:

http://agenda.cern.ch/fullAgenda.php?ida=a063257

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• Class 1 (not so bad) –Can access site's services (and work correctly) from a private

network.

• Class 2 (very bad)–Uses 'private' interfaces to access information/services at the site

(i.e. not exposed to those beyond the site's firewall).

• Priority: Eliminate Class 2 services first–Reduce security issues with VO services “inside” site.–Permit alternate, more flexible deployment scenarios.

VOBoxes

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1. Package management (ALICE)– Needs to be simple, bare-bones implementation initially.– EGEE/JRA1 has been discussed in the TCG:– No priority !? – Erwin Laure

2. SRM v2 (CMS)– Need “list” functionality in SRM to ensure consistency between

SE and central catalogs.– srmLs now in SRMv2.2 for January 2007– CMS already confirmed, performance to be seen– Stefano Belforte

Class 2 services

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• Consistent Security Framework Erwin Laure• xrootd as SE transport protocol (ALICE only) NN• Eliminate use of shared credentians Markus Schultz • SFT (Site Functional Tests) Pjotr Niczik• Mechanism for publishing VO services Laurence Field• Messaging and notification NN• Monitoring via monalisa NN• General VO service framework NN

Let us come back to this at the next GDB

Class 1 servicesDevelopment Priorities

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TebiBytes (240) or TeraBytes (1012)

• Difference is ~12% for a PByte• Vendors: 1012 RAL: 240 PIC: 240 ALICE: 240

• CERN: buys in 1012 but accounts in 240

• Bernd: differences of ~10% depending on the usage

Conclusions ??:• The experiment’s requirements are in 240

• The numbers in the MoU tables are also in 240 ?• The sites buy in 1012 but add 12% when ordering 1 PB ?• Do the sites add another 10% for actually delivered space ?• We keep talking about TBytes although we mean TebiBytes ?

Just to make sure we all use the same rules and units …

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Actions on VOMS

• Jeff (Ronald actually) : yaim changes• KB email to experiments to push users to re-register.

Final date for re-registration October 1st, testruns without LDAP until December 31st.

• Ian Bird to check there is no dependency in the middleware on LDAP GridMap files

• dCache and CASTOR to tell us their ready-ness for VOMS (is DPM ready then?)

• Postpone this agenda point to the October GDB

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LCG Super Computing 2006

• SC06 is in Tampa, Florida Nov. 11-17– http://sc06.supercomp.org/

• There is a first time EGEE booth• CERN participates with CalTech and FNAL/SLAC• Do we want to make a common WLCG demo ?• RAL, FNAL, ANL, NL are close to each other

– http://sc06.supercomputing.org/pdf/eh_floorplan.pdf • All booths are in one big hall this time• An interoperability demo ?• Any common video’s RB monitor, network monitor?• Any common flyers? Posters? • Or are we ‘too busy’ ?