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Input vs output: what our international admissions processes say about us - and why it matters Gavin Douglas Director of Student Recruitment The Robert Gordon University

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Input vs output: what our international admissions processes say about us - and why it matters

Gavin Douglas

Director of Student Recruitment

The Robert Gordon University

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A couple of starting points

• The quality of a university is best measured by the kind of student it turns out rather than the kind it takes in.

(Nayanjot Lahiri- University of Delhi)

• The asset of high moral status, the young thrusters in the marketing department may realise, is not something that can be bought

(Melanie Reid, The Times, 14/10/2008)

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“When junk was gold”

• Moody’s Information Services – a top global credit-rating agency

• Founded early 20th century, a service paid for by investors

• Joined by Standard and Poor’s – “a happy duopoly”

• Then Fitch: “Now banks could ‘ratings shop’”• 1980’s: banks introduce new bonds – and go to

Moody’s et al to get them rated. Now the bank is the customer.

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“When junk was gold”

• 2000: Moody’s goes public– “High pressure, fast turnaround ratings (are) the

norm”

• 2004: Moody’s allows mortgage backed bonds to get AAA ratings

• 2007: software glitches discovered at Moody’s• 2007: mortgage defaults start to rise • August 2007: Moody’s downgrades mortgage

bonds• The rest is history...

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“When junk was gold”

“Our ratings and research are our only products, and our reputation is our only capital” (Moody’s, May 2008)

The effect of competitive pressure....

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It’s been a time of rapid growth...

International students in UK universities, 1995-2005

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1995

-96

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1998

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1999

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Other international

EU

Source: HESA

Back to international students...

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...even in Aberdeen

I nternational students at Robert Gordon University (2002-2005)

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Few of the government's targets were hit q

uite

so squarely and rapidly as the prime minister's

1999 initiative to bring an extra 50,000

international students to UK universities (plus an

extra 25,000 to further education colleges).

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Typical(?) organisational behaviour during this time

• Use of agents– PRO: local presence, local market knowledge, student support– CON: motivations / pressures

• Pre-masters and foundation degrees– What undergrad’s have to do: 12-15000 word dissertation + viva– What pre-masters students have to do: have an awareness of

how to compile a dissertation

• Spot offers– Conflicts of interest?

• Short top-ups– 14 weeks to a UK Honours degree?

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Typical(?) organisational behaviour during this time

• Moving international admissions in with international recruitment– PRO: increased communication– CON: issues of power and control

• Speed of response– Is it really a sustainable competitive advantage?

• Alternatives to IELTS– Vs Australia: IELTS compulsory to get visa

• Simple metrics: fee income / FTE’s– What gets measured gets done– No first destinations stats– External barometers replace internal controls

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Where are you?

Low Concern for marketing HighLow

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Sales orientation

Welfare orientation

Bureaucratic orientation

Marketing orientation

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The Douglas NARIC 3 step model*

Immature or ignorant phase

Emergent phase

Full-on marketing phase

* not be taken too seriously

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Is it just me? I don’t think so...• Bringing foreign students to the UK has become a major economic

consideration for universities, amid fears that Britain is losing market share. (People's Daily Online http://english.people.com)

• As one university administrator from Manchester put it, ‘They’re recruiting them like mad here, because of the money.’ (Philo, 2007)

• As a proportion of the size of each student group, 2.5 times as many overseas students as home students are referred to academic tribunals. http://www.nouse.co.uk/

• The vice-chancellor of Cambridge University has warned there is a danger of a "downward spiral" in the standard of students at UK universities ... if there was a massive growth in the number of overseas students enrolled at UK universities because of financial pressures on budgets. (Times Higher)

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Let’s just pause for a moment...

• Economic factors underpinning internationalistaion

• Factors affecting student choice

• External environment factors affecting UK international recruitment

• Factors affecting marketers (whether thrusting or not)

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Economic factors underpinning internationalistaion

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Factors affecting student choice

• “Anyone with a British education is considered well educated and rises rapidly to positions of influence in the country.”

• “No country in this world looks down upon a British higher education qualification. It is recognised everywhere under the sun because it is believed to be rigorous.”

(Quoted in Maringe and Carter, 2007)

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The external environment

• Tight security following the 9/11 terrorist attacks on America had caused the visa application process to slow down, but... the US was committed to opening its doors even wider for international students (www rediff.com)

• The number of English-language study programmes offered by Dutch institutions of higher education is set to rise this year to 1300. (www.studyin.nl)

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Factors affecting marketers

• Loss of channel control– “My course is very vast. I did not find my 1st

semester very interesting, but my 2nd semester is very good. The subjects & course work is very closely related to practical work in the investment market. The university has materialised all promised academic modules.” (www.uniguru.com)

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In summary...

• It’s all about quality in this business:– Students choose the UK because of a

reputation for quality– Competition for students is increasing – from

high quality countries too– ICT makes it easy for students to publish their

views on actual quality

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An even better summary

The good reputation of British higher education

(and indeed of Britain as a country of gentle

people) took literally hundreds of years

to establish. It is a major reason why students are

attracted to the country in the first place. Such faith

in our society and its institutions is a precious

national asset.(Philo, 2007)

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So what next?

• International student experience

• Partnership

• Increased in-country activity

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What else needs to change?

• Government funding of HE (hmmm...)• Metrics

– Balanced– Public– To include retention / achievement of international

students– To include employment outcomes

• Transaction or relationship - reward systems• Perseverance

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The role of NARIC

• Continue the good work; stay independent

• Talk to uni’s and understand their needs and pressures (but don’t just accept them)

• Understand the gold standard issues

• Broaden the information available to Universities

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To sum up...

• The quality of a university is best measured by the kind of student it turns out rather than the kind it takes in.

(Nayanjot Lahiri- University of Delhi)

• The asset of high moral status, the young thrusters in the marketing department may realise, is not something that can be bought

(Melanie Reid, The Times, 14/10/2008)