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Design Rollers -- for paintingby Thinkenstein on November 8, 2010

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Intro:   Design Rollers -- for painting . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2

Step 1:   Techniques for Making the Roller Designs . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 2

Step 2:   Beginner's Roller Handle . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 7

Step 3:   Advanced Roller Handles . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9

Step 4:   Paintings Done With Rollers . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 11

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Author:Thinkenstein    author's websiteI'm a refugee from Los Angeles, living in backwoods Puerto Rico for about 35 years now and loving it. I built my own home from discarded nylon fishnet andcement.

Intro:  Design Rollers -- for paintingTexture gives life to painting surfaces and design rollers are a quick way to put it down.  These rollers use PVC pipe for the basic roller sleeves and are like rollingprinting blocks.  You charge them with paint, instead of printing ink, and roll the design patterns down on your painting.  I use them with acrylic paints. 

Spread a thin layer of paint out on your palette with a palette knife, charge the roller with paint and go for it!

Step 1: Techniques for Making the Roller Designs

There are several techniques for making the rollers.  You can carve into the plastic sleeve itself with a Dremel tool.  You can also glue things to the surface. 

I sometimes use acrylic gel, or modeling paste, for sticking things like string to the surface of the PVC sleeves.  Clear PVC cement works well for sticking down shapescut from Nagahyde upholstery vinyl.  For precise gluing with the PVC cement I sometimes use a hypodermic syringe without the needle.  The solvent in the cementeventually damages the syringe, but it is good for a while. 

Check out the pictures for ideas as to what is possible. 

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Image Notes1. Carved design2. Upholstery vinyl adhered with PVC cement

Image Notes1. Carved.2. Vinyl.3. String.4. Random modeling paste built up.

Image Notes1. String.

Image Notes1. String.

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Image Notes1. Vinyl, cut out with very small scissors.

Image Notes1. Carved.

Image Notes1. Vinyl, cut with a leather punch.

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Image Notes1. BB's glued down for dots.2. Excelsior packaging material.3. Vinyl dots made with a leather punch.4. Round toothpick sections.

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Image Notes1. Carved designs.

Step 2: Beginner's Roller HandleMost of my rollers use large diameter sleeves and special handles I made.  Since making the handles is a little complicated, using PVC heat forming techniques andmolding, the easiest way to start right in is to use a standard paint roller handle. 

Sections of 1 1/4" PVC pipe fit on the standard paint roller handles.  In this step, you see how I made a quick dremel-carved sleeve.   After penciling the design on thesleeve, I held it in a vise while carving. 

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Image Notes1. This is Nagahyde upholstery vinyl adhered to the PVC sleeve with clearPVC cement.

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Image Notes1. The inner core that holds the sleeve for carving is another piece of 1 1/4"diameter pipe, cut down one side. Roll it up, put it inside, and then it expands.

Step 3: Advanced Roller HandlesI make special handles for any size roller, from 1" diameter wheels, to 4" diameter pipe sleeves.  The PVC pipe is cut and heat formed to make two springy arms that holdthe roller sleeves.  The arms spring apart to place and remove rollers.  Bolts acting as axles for the roller are attached to each arm and protrude into a center hole oneither side of the roller. 

Inside the sleeve, there are two molded end pieces with the holes for the axle bolts, and a split ring spacer sleeve to keep them the right distance apart.  These units slideinto the pipe sections that are the roller sleeves. 

I made the male part of the molds for the end pieces out of plywood.  The female outer part of the mold was a section of the same PVC pipe meant to be used as theroller sleeves.  I may have wrapped that section with wire to keep it from expanding as it was in use with heated material and might absorb heat and soften during themolding process.   It was many years ago, and I threw out the molds. 

For tips on working with PVC, see my other instructable:   http://www.instructables.com/id/PVC-Its-Great-for-Inventions

Image Notes1. The arms spring apart to replace rollers. See the nut and bolt that act as theaxle.

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Image Notes1. The axle bolt.

Image Notes1. This roller paints a very thin line.

Image Notes1. Hole for the axle bolt.2. Spacer ring appropriate to the width of the roller sleeve being used.

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Step 4: Paintings Done With Rollers

These are some paintings I did many years ago on water color paper with acrylic paints.  For the most part, I put down abstract backgrounds with the rollers and then didsomething more realistic over it with brush work.   A couple of the paintings were done only with rollers and paper stencils -- no brush work. 

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 neologik says:  Jan 17, 2011. 11:47 AM  REPLYwooow,this is amazing

very beutifull paintings.

nice work

 gemtree says:  Jan 3, 2011. 8:58 PM  REPLYHm, I was rereading this and a thought occurred. Squeeze out silicone on a sanded pvc tube for stick toitiveness. Wrap it in saran wrap then roll the softsilicon across a real tree bark. Hang to dry so it won't get flattened. Most likely take forever to dry tho. However, it may not be firm enough to make theimpressions in the cement.

 Thinkenstein says:  Jan 4, 2011. 7:15 AM  REPLYYes, unable to breathe through the PVC pipe core or the saran wrap outside it probably would take forever to dry. Also, the saran wrap would interferewith getting a good impression from the bark.

To get a silicone impression of tree bark, you could just smear some silicone onto the bark and then apply a layer of cloth (to prevent excessivestretching and tearing) with more silicone. When dry, peel it off the bark and clean out whatever bark flakes are sticking to the silicone.

You might be able to make a roller out of the material by sticking it to a PVC sleeve with more silicone. Or, you might be able to just press the flatmaterial into cement and forget the roller idea. Beats me. It would take some experimenting.

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 kirnex says:  Jan 2, 2011. 7:28 PM  REPLYGood God, this is BRILLIANT, Thinkenstein! I am in awe.

I wish you'd make a whole thread of all the awesome ideas you've come up with for using PVC. I'm serious, man--I think you obviously are an "out-of-box"er,and I bet you could write a book with all the stuff you've come up with to "re-purpose" ordinary items. I'm convinced--and a new fan.

 Thinkenstein says:  Jan 2, 2011. 8:36 PM  REPLYThanks, Kirnex. A book could happen someday, but the collection of instructables I've done says it already.

You should start playing around with the material, if you haven't already. Shouldn't let that enthusiasm go to waste.

 rimar2000 says:  Nov 9, 2010. 6:28 PM  REPLYYou are an artist!

I can not draw decently a glass...

 Thinkenstein says:  Nov 10, 2010. 2:42 AM  REPLYThanks. I've been at it since third grade.

Glass is not easy to draw.

I guess art is not for everybody. I enjoyed it, so I stuck with it. I think everyone has the potential, though. It's a combination of thinking and feeling and alot of practice.

 gemtree says:  Nov 11, 2010. 8:54 AM  REPLYI recently learned that real artists tend to be a totally different type of person. I am a full time healer and have been told for years I had a personalityproblem by other nonartsy healers. Seems that when I started going weekly to an art market and talking with other artists... I find we all have similartraits that apparently drive non arty type people to distraction and irritate them. Then they tell us we are screwed up when in actuality we think outsideof THEIR boxes and that irritates and confuses them when we act the way we do.

It is a normal state of being for a true artist personality type. I know this because I met about twenty or more different artists at that art market andthey all acted and thought similar ways. Like I did when I was accused of ...being flighty, ungrounded, unproductive, lazy, unmotivated, havingpersonality problems and issues. The more I was around these people, the more I realized I was NOT BROKEN. I was NOT SCREWED UP. I wasNOT FLIGHTY, etc. I was a normal artist type, doing normal artist behaviour, acting just like we always do.

We need to be careful what we accept from other people. Don't listen if someone tells you you have an issue if you are happy doing what you aredoing. They just do not have knowledge of our personalities or how our minds work. They might have an issue with US is all and they will often becritical of us because we do not fit their mold. It can make them feel threatened.

 ccrewe says:  Dec 19, 2010. 1:21 PM  REPLYHello gemtree, I am a full time artist, I make and sell paintings full time, for a living. I must warn you that thinking in terms of "artistic people" and"non artistic people" the whole "us and them" type of thinking is a very dangerous trap to fall into. Artist or not, personality traits such as the onesyou attribute to artistic people ( flighty, ungrounded, unproductive, lazy, unmotivated) are character flaws and will hold a person back in life.An artist should always be growing evolving and becomming better than before. Now that you have recognized your personality flaws, it is yourjob to better yourself by challenging and overcomming them. This is the true struggle of the artist.

 gemtree says:  Dec 20, 2010. 6:38 PM  REPLYccrewe, unfortunately you totally missed what I was trying to say. I was accused of being those things. I was not any of those things. I didthings DIFFERENTLY from those inconsiderate, judgmental people who tried to make me feel bad by belittling me. Just because I woke andslept at different times, I did not keep my house the ways they did nor arranged my life the way they did, THEY decided that I had a problem.

I did not but unfortunately I was convinced for many years that I was broken, screwed up and worthless. When I finally realized they werejudging me unfairly and did things my normal way and refused to allow them to put me down (by disassociating myself from them)... well,suddenly, I started making money, becoming popular and had many more friends. I have not evolved so much as accepted I am different andstopped being a sheeple and following THEIR leads and trying to fit myself into THEIR molds.

I have never ever said that artists are any of those things.

 porcupinemamma says:  Dec 14, 2010. 12:52 AM  REPLY"Normal...who wants to be normal? sounds very boring!

 rimar2000 says:  Nov 11, 2010. 11:03 AM  REPLYI think you're right. Even I have come to think that some artists, especially musicians, have a special nervous system, which allows them to dothings a human being "normal" is unable to do, but practice years and years. You can find many examples, here goes one:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHkX0URELfQ&feature=related Listen min. 5:37+ specially. Other:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwUGpMT47z0&feature=related

 Thinkenstein says:  Nov 12, 2010. 1:05 PM  REPLYThanks for the links Rimar. Pretty amazing violin playing. It's a great instrument. I tinkered with violin years ago, with no training, and just gotbackground music for cat fights! Anyway, it is incredible what the human body and mind can do.

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 rimar2000 says:  Nov 12, 2010. 3:52 PM  REPLYYears ago, a friend gave me a violin, I had it about a month and all I could play was "rusty hinge" and "the nail sliding on the blackboard"!!

 Thinkenstein says:  Nov 12, 2010. 6:07 PM  REPLYPeople kept asking me to play "Far, Far Away" but my repertoire was limited.

 gemtree says:  Nov 12, 2010. 7:04 PM  REPLYUhhhh, you sure they were asking you to play that song and not just move on?

 Thinkenstein says:  Nov 12, 2010. 7:27 PM  REPLYGotcha!

 gemtree says:  Nov 13, 2010. 8:02 AM  REPLY*lol* I am just joking...

 gemtree says:  Nov 12, 2010. 11:45 AM  REPLYAmazing! Thanks for sharing!

 8bit says:  Dec 1, 2010. 7:12 PM  REPLYYou're a lifesaver!

 gemtree says:  Nov 11, 2010. 9:24 AM  REPLYOh, is the end insert made from a large piece of pvc pipe? I need to make another trip to the hardware store.

 Thinkenstein says:  Nov 11, 2010. 11:31 AM  REPLYTo make 4" end pieces: The diameter of a circle is pi D, so I just cut some 4" pipe in half lengthwise and cut it long enough to give me square pieces. Iheated those up to soften them, pressed them in the mold and then cut off the flashing excess.

As I mentioned in my other reply, though, you would possibly save a lot of grief by just making wood end pieces. It's always good to learn how to moldPVC, though. You never know when that trick will come in handy.

 gemtree says:  Nov 12, 2010. 11:52 AM  REPLYYeah, well I do like the idea of the molded pvc. I am in a hurry tho to get the pillars made for bird baths. Faux bois tree trunks. Pedestal with aplatform top for my bird baths and wide root/feet. Of course, with the styrofoam center to make it light enough for people to move around withouthiring someone to do it. Sturdy is a must. Needless to say, you have stimulated my creativity with yours.

 Thinkenstein says:  Nov 12, 2010. 1:18 PM  REPLYTry a sample piece with the grass cuttings, and maybe other similar debris, pressed into the surface of wet cement first, to see if you get anacceptable texture. By leaving it in until the cement hardens, you would avoid the stickiness problem with the rollers. You might get an acceptabletexture that way, that would fool most non-tree experts.

I still don't understand the commercial sleeve idea that prevents sticking.

Although almost nothing, when dry, sticks well to silicone I suspect that wet cement would. You can stick two pieces of glass together with water,for example, whereas they don't stick together dry. Air has to get in for the water to let go, or a vacuum is formed. Form a vacuum and the cementwould be pulled upward as the roller passes on, I imagine.

By the way, to smooth out some surface defects, a soft paint brush and a little water works well.

 gemtree says:  Nov 13, 2010. 8:02 AM  REPLYThanks!

 gemtree says:  Nov 11, 2010. 9:23 AM  REPLYI don't really understand these parts:

"Inside the sleeve, there are two molded end pieces with the holes for the axle bolts, and a split ring spacer sleeve to keep them the right distance apart."

Is the split ring spacer between the two molded end inserts and it is just barely smaller than the roller sleeve minus the end sizes so the ends don't move intothe sleeve too far? Is the spacer made from a smaller size pvc, split then heated to open more and fit snug? What do you use to make the end caps?

"I made the male part of the molds for the end pieces out of plywood. The female outer part of the mold was a section of the same PVC pipe meant to beused as the roller sleeves. I may have wrapped that section with wire to keep it from expanding as it was in use with heated material and might absorb heat

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and soften during the molding process."

Does this mean you made a hole in plywood and melted/heated the material to force into a hole that would tightly fit inside the roller sleeve? Or does it meanthat you used a circular wood blank that you forced the end material (that looks like it is pvc) after heating the material up? And forced it into a reinforced pvcpipe for the outer dimension? I was wondering if we could use a piece of cement to hold the female part in it's original dimension? Thanks for helping.

 Thinkenstein says:  Nov 11, 2010. 11:20 AM  REPLYGood points. I should clarify them more in the body of the instructable.

Let's say I am using 4" diameter pipe as the roller sleeves. Some rollers might be 2 inches wide and some might be 6 inches wide. You would need adifferent handle for each size, because of the different widths.

The molded end pieces could be used for either handle, because they are both for 4" pipe. You would need two different split ring separators, though.

Let's say the molded end pieces take up 1/2" on either side of the width, for a total of 1". You would need a 1" length of end separator for the 2" rollersand a 5" separator for the 6" rollers.

The separators would be sections of 4" diameter pipe with two cuts down the side to remove a narrow strip. The removal of the strip allows it to becompressed more tightly and fit inside the roller sleeve. PVC is springy, so it springs outward once inside the roller sleeve. Because of the separators,the end pieces can not now be pushed inward by pressure from the handle's arms.

Let's say the 4" pipe wall is 1/8" thick. You want the outside of the end pieces to be a tight fit to the inside diameter of 4" pipe, so the diameter of the (let'ssay 3/4" thick) round plywood male part of the mold would be the inside diameter of the pipe, less 1/4".

The female part of the mold might be a section of 4" pipe about 5/8" long. You have to allow a little over 1/2" to allow for cutting off the excess materialafter the molding process, if you want your end pieces to measure 1/2" when finished. That is not critical, though, because the spacer length can adjustas needed.

I have used cement before to keep PVC rings from expanding in female molds before. That would probably be more precise than using wire.

You could probably simplify the whole process, especially if you have a drill press with a circle cutter, to just cut plywood rounds for the end pieces anduse the same split ring separator idea between them. That would eliminate the molding part of the project and save you a lot of time if it worked. I wasjust enamored with molding the plastic in those days and made a bunch of similar pieces for end caps for pipe, too.

 gemtree says:  Nov 12, 2010. 6:56 AM  REPLYThanks for the clarification. I may just use the plywood ends. That would keep me from scorching my floor or table! LOL! I swear, I play with a torchand get all crazy.

 l8nite says:  Nov 11, 2010. 2:47 PM  REPLYwhere were you with this "ible" 6weeks ago ?? My daughter wanted tire tracks around the, soon to be born, babys room, 3 different attempts at stencils failedmiserably and I ended up drawing and painting the "tracks" by hand. An idea like this would have worked fantastically with a larger dia pvc.. oh well, its in myhead now so who knows, maybe even some backgrounds on my own artwork in the future. Thanks for the "ible" and the endless possibilities of ideas

 gemtree says:  Nov 10, 2010. 9:50 AM  REPLYYou have just saved me hundreds of dollars and given me something I can really 'obsess' over for some time to come! <3 Thanks! Faux bois... here I come!(cement trees)

 Thinkenstein says:  Nov 10, 2010. 3:06 PM  REPLYHm..m..m. You plan on using textured rollers to make the bark on cement trees?

I have a suspicion that won't work well, because of the stickiness of the cement. Disneyland had a cement Swiss Family Robinson tree house, which waspretty convincing, but I don't know how they did the texture. I think I read somewhere that Disney artists used crumpled aluminum foil to stipple thetexture on their fake rocks. They impressed the heck out of me.

Just a thought. You might press grass cuttings into the tinted wet cement and leave them there until the cement hardens. Then you could blast them outwith a pressure sprayer, or wait until they rotted out. That could give you a possibly bark-like texture.

 gemtree says:  Nov 10, 2010. 9:22 PM  REPLYhttp://www.betterpaths.com/TEXTURE_ROLLERS_TREEBARK.htmCheck it out. Like I said, you saved me hundreds of dollars.

 Thinkenstein says:  Nov 11, 2010. 4:06 AM  REPLYNeedless to say, I am impressed. I would still like to see the rollers in action, to make sure that stickiness to the roller is not a problem.

A thought that came to me is that maybe silicone rubber might be a good material to use for the texture surface. I don't know exactly how youwould do this, but you might spread some silicone over real tree bark, for example and let it harden. Then peel it off and wrap it around a PVCroller core with some more silicone to make it stick. The silicone is very flexible.

The seam where the ends join would need some touch-up by hand, but it would be minimal. That would be a quick and easy way to copytextures.

Please keep me informed as to your progress with this idea; and I imagine it would make a great instructable for you.

It's an idea I might be tempted to play with someday myself, but I would prefer for you to get there first.

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 gemtree says:  Nov 11, 2010. 8:39 AM  REPLYHehe, I appreciate you allowing me to go first but if you KNEW what a huge procrastinator I am... you would haul butt on the instructableyourself. Feel free. I actually did think about putting caulk lines on the roller but you are so right about the stickiness and silicone. I think thesilicone should be a coating. I later browsed that link I sent you. The third window I found says this: All rollers are 9 1/2" x 3 1/2" and fit aregular size paint roller handle (handle not included). With Each roller comes a *water retaining sleeve that fits over the roller.* This waterretaining sleeve is used instead of using mineral spirits or other chemicals, just place the sleeve over the roller, dip the roller in water and *itbecomes non-stick without losing the texture created from the roller.*

So you really definitely know your concrete, Thinkenstein. Or psychic... or both, lol! Now, maybe a texture made with whatever with a siliconesleeve? Plastic wrap? Plastic wrap the concrete then roll? I may have to buy one of there rollers to research deeper. Thanks for the stickinesstip. Go right ahead on testing any ideas. If you want to share the idea here, please do so. *grin* I have been stalking ...um subscribed to yousince I read your fabulous concrete ideas.

 aeray says:  Nov 9, 2010. 8:36 AM  REPLYGo go Gauguin! Good work!What is the scale of the paintings?Are you still painting?

 Thinkenstein says:  Nov 9, 2010. 10:52 AM  REPLYThanks.

The paintings were all 18 X 24 inches. I bought paper by the ream in those days. Cheaper in bulk.

I haven't painted anything in years. I think about it sometimes, but don't seem to get inspired. I wish I had more models, but wishing doesn't seem tohave done much good.

 nickodemus says:  Nov 8, 2010. 6:46 PM  REPLYNever thought of carving pvc before - There is so much more to be explored with new mediums!

 Jayefuu says:  Nov 8, 2010. 1:43 PM  REPLYThe stuff you do with PVC astounds me thinkenstein. :)

 Thinkenstein says:  Nov 8, 2010. 3:11 PM  REPLYThanks, Jayefuu. As you can see, it has potential for a lot more than plumbing. We had wood shop and metal shop in school when I was a kid. Thereshould be a PVC shop now.