Deep Value Investing Themes by Prof. Sanjay Bakshi

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Value Investing - IIDeep Value Investing Themes

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Deep Value Strategies

1. Classic Ben Graham

2. Capital Structure Strategies

3. FM Strategies

4. Dividend Policy Related Strategies

5. Event-Driven Strategies

6. Availability Bias Strategies

7. Shareholding Structure related Strategies

8. Mean Reversion Strategies

9. Value + Momentum Strategies

10.Over-optimism related Strategies

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Classic Ben Graham

1. Cash bargains

2. Debt-capacity bargains

3. Earnings yield bargains

4. Large unpopular companies

5. Low-priced common stock

6. Special situations

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Cash Bargains

• What I said in 2002:

• Be careful about risk of cash being dissipated away.

• My current view:

• Holding companies - Nalwa Sons, Jindal Southwest Holdings, Consolidated Finvest: Where is the catalyst? (is it a family dispute, is it the presence of Mr Soros e.g. in Jindal Southwest Holdings - hedged trade)

• Graham: Inferior form of corporate structure from market valuation, like closed-ended mutual funds and conglomerates.

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Cash Bargains

• Operating companies with cash far better than boxes of cash

• Future cash bargains - Neyveli Lignite, Gail etc

• Predicting when they will become cash bargains.

• Why do markets hate the most easily valued asset on a balance sheet?

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Debt-capacity bargains

• No change in my views since 2002

• Graham was right when he wrote that “an equity share representing the entire business cannot be less safe [and less valuable] than a bond having a claim to only a part thereof.”

• Private equity boom is here to stay - an alternative to stock market.

• Companies like Abbot India which don’t deserve to be there in the stock market.

• The debt-capacity bargains idea led me to think about capital structure theme.

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Capital Structure

• Optimum Capital Structure

• M&M vs. Graham & KKR

• Too much equity

• Too much cash- distribute it!

• LBO/Leveraged Recap - Bonus debentures - HLL, Thermax, Marico.

• Too much debt

• Pay it down

• Debt reduction- CDR- Nagarjuna Fertilizer, JVSL- Banker’s incentives.

• Equity as a balancing figure

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Earnings yield bargains

• Graham’s elegant idea of twice of AAA bond yield.

• Adjustable aspiration level - no beta, CAPM and other nonsense

• Herb Simon’s model of satisficing rather than optimizing.

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Large unpopular companies

• Dogs of Nifty

• Part of mean-reversion strategies.

• Reversion to the mean as a mental model from statistics

• Deeply out-of-favor sectors

• Sugar

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Low priced common stock

• Arithmetical advantage

• Pseudo low price - importance of PSR

• Example: Nagarjuna Fertilizer

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Special situations• A vast, fertile field for security

analysis- move into event-driven strategies

• Explosion in volume of corporate events

• Milestones - market is inefficient

• Kelly near closing

• Not fully immune from market risks

• Its not done until its done - GE Shipping

• From Graham to Rubin to Taleb- to

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FM Strategies

• Focus on expected value not probability- Requires training for the brain does not work the Fermat/Pascal way.

• “Take the probability times the amount of possible loss from the probability of gain times the amount of possible gain. That is what we are trying to do. its imperfect, but that's what it is all about.”

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FM Strategies

• Budget announcements

• Dividend announcements

• Other market value sensitive announcements

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Why FM works in Value

• Asymmetric response to news- good or bad.

• Stock is cheap because its out of favor

• Market does not expect much from this company

• Assume random news (in fact if you think about mean reversion, it may not be random at all).

• Then, a negative news will not have much of an impact on the market price

• However, even a mild positive news will have a significant positive impact on price.

• What matters is not whether the news is good or bad, but whether it will surprise the market.

• What you get is asymmetric payoffs with favorable odds

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Dividend Policy

• M&M vs the real world - dividend policy matters

• MM assumed that capital markets will always welcome companies with open arms

• MM assumed efficient markets- no dilution risk

• MM assumed no agency problems - no bladder theory.

• Two P/Es of a stock

• Bonds inside stocks - e.g. VST Industries

• Need for activism huge

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Dividend Policy

• Market prices very sensitive to dividend announcements and rightly so.

• 1st time dividend payers, restoration of dividend

• Cut in dividends

• Dividend skipped

• Hike in dividends

• Special dividends

• Dividend capture using futures

• Often we let someone else take the dividend- FM trade

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Availability Bias• “The brain can’t use what it can’t remember or what it is blocked from

recognizing because it is heavily influenced by certain psychological tendencies.” - Munger

• Jumping to first conclusions - human egg metaphor

• Huge opportunities in exploiting other people’s availability bias.

• People assess the frequency, probability, or likely cause of an event by the degree to which instances or occurrences of that event are readily “available” in memory- Vividness and Recency

• Markets over-react to events- social proof

• The annual budget drama

• Long-short strategies arising out of availability bias

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Shareholding Structure

• I think its very important to monitor what the insiders are doing and what else is happening in the shareholding structure.

• Over-valued stock + large FII interest plus + F&O + insider selling+ weak accounting + slowing growth (not factored in market price) = short candidate when market is also over-heated.

• Holding companies

• Ultra-cheap + insider buying +low FII interest = an excellent combination.

• Insider buying vs insider selling asymmetric

• What are other smart investors doing?

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Mean Reversion

• Fundamentally important mental model

• Toss of a coin

• Business cycles

• Tobin’s Q, Incentives

• Sugar will be sweet one day.

• Stock prices vs Stock returns

• Mind tends to put an arrow at the end of a trend line- all trends are not destiny

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Mean Reversion

• Raw material theme

• Why important?

• Britannia- one thing leads to another - my (financial) love affair with Vinita Bali

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Value + Momentum

• Munger taught me to combine ideas - jump jurisdictional boundaries, connect things.

• My hunch is that value investing will give better results when combined with momentum strategies.

• Trade-off involved, FM

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Over-optimism

• 80% of drivers consider themselves to be “above average”

• Bias in analyst reports - buy vs sell calls - incentive caused bias

• Managements under-weigh competitive threats - e.g. chinese competition.

• Investors become wildly optimistic about certain sectors sometimes, and then backward thinking forces you to be more objective and see the lunacy in market prices.

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