Coord. Comm. (CC) Observations – Overall Charge to the CC what the current projects are achieving...

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Coord. Comm. (CC) Observations Overall Charge to the CC what the current projects are achieving that will benefit observatory design which needs might be better addressed if the current projects could be modified what further "test-bedding" would be valuable but will not be addressed by the current studies as they seem to be going what are the priority needs that should be addressed in a second round of test-bed projects? CC Charge for this Meeting major challenges seen in the statements thoughts on what the workshop can do to overcome them

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Coord. Comm. (CC) Observations – Overall Charge to the CC

• what the current projects are achieving that will benefit observatory design

• which needs might be better addressed if the current projects could be modified

• what further "test-bedding" would be valuable but will not be addressed by the current studies as they seem to be going

• what are the priority needs that should be addressed in a second round of test-bed projects?

– CC Charge for this Meeting

• major challenges seen in the statements

• thoughts on what the workshop can do to overcome them

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Suggestions for addressing challenges

Breakout Groups to discuss defined issues

1st session

Group 1: Portal Performance (Graham)

Group 2: Legacy Data (Welty)

Group 3: Digital Watersheds (Bales)

Group 6: Model Support (Duffy)

2nd session

Group 4: Sensor Selection (Hondzo)

Group 5: Field Deployment (Stevens)

Group 7: Science Achievements (Moore)

Group 8: Impact & Auth. Issues (Reed)

– Specific requests for breakout groups in each of these areas highlighted in the challenges section

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On the Positive Side

– Legacy Data

• Via project and HIS see organized archival of both legacy date and, research project data that might otherwise be made available to only a small number of future investigators

– Value added fundamental research

• By focusing on the long-term a better understanding of “system function” under changing management and climatic variability will likely be achieved

– Cyberinfrastructure

• Initiated a national dialogue on data transmission, storage, inter-model communication (proprietary and open source)

Transformative Knowledge Developing

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Transformative Knowledge Developing

Sensor selection and evaluation

• Identifying gaps and sensor issues can provide direct feedback to private sector and for transitioning of academic sensor research to the private sector

• Consider more proactive communication on this topic

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Major Challenges from Statements – Testbeds were asked to do more than called for in RFP and for the budgets

awarded

– Carrying out extensive field observations & research

• Greater effort and more expensive than envisioned

• Many sensors require lots of attention, tech time

• Building trust with local stakeholders and agencies is time intensive

• Legacy data often difficult to obtain and process

• Key lessons for NSF envisioned joint infrastructure / research observatories – how do you do both well

– What science can only be achieved with an observatory infrastructure?

– What compels the community to make the extra effort noted above?

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Major Challenges from Statements

– Portal Performance

• Learning portal, ODM and HIS is a non-trivial task

• Staff with high level IT / GIS / DB skills likely to be required in the near and long-term

• DASH requires improvements on a number of fronts

• Several question the need for real-time data and high-frequency data and the extra overhead it requires versus near-real time data (~12 to 24 hour lag) –

• More precisely define the need for real-time data (tradeoffs between real-time access versus greater sensor density, etc?)

• How do you deliver the support effectively to train the testbeds in use of the portal?

• How does the portal evolve and develop?

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Major Challenges from Statements

– Legacy Data

• Real detective work often required

• Costly and time consuming sort out, reformat, and enter

• Metadata often missing or vague (what is good data, what should be entered into HIS or local DB?)

• Can criteria be developed to define “good” legacy data?

• What legacy data did you need for your research (is there an emerging set of common core data)?

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Major Challenges from Statements

– Digital Watersheds (DW)

• Apparent that DW concept means a number of different things to different groups – digital watershed vision must be clarified

• Develop a clear concept of what a DW is?

• Is comprehensive collection of legacy data essential for a truly digital watershed (for your science questions, for the community)?

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Major Challenges from Statements

– Sensor Selection and Issues

• Many of the sensors being deployed are location and science question dependent reducing cross testbed learning

• Several noted difficulties with soil moisture sensors

• A fair amount of trial and error

• Should there be a community supported sensor evaluation laboratory?

• Should the community develop sets of specific sensor requirements and help fund development of these sensors?

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Major Challenges from Statements

– Field Deployment

• WQ sensors on market are really not designed for long-term deployment and require lots of attention and $$

• Due to budget limitations typically don’t have enough sensors to form a network and consider optimal design

• How much does deployment vary with another science question?

• Have analyses / models been used / developed to guide sensor deployment (core data)?

• What existing sensors (reliable, inexpensive) can be deployed in sufficient numbers to attack the network optimization issue?

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Major Challenges from Statements

– Model Support – limited progress

• Most modeling activities are being conducted fairly independently of functions provided through the HIS portal.

• What are the barriers to using web services in modeling applications?

– Science Achievements

• Generally on track or ready to tackle in second year

• Question: What are the difficulties in achieving your goals in the context of a testbed

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Major Challenges from Statements

– Authorization and Impact Issues

• Building trust with land owners, organizations, and agencies is very important and time intensive but essential for

– Acquiring legacy data and its metadata

– Access to sites and expedited permitting

– Likely difficult if local stakeholder does not benefit

• Must pay attention to safety and provide resources for it (e.g. extra person – buddy system)

• Who else do we need to reach out to for comprehensive access and EIS issues (legal, Fish and Wildlife, etc.)?

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Major Challenges from Statements

– General Comments

• For sensor based projects HIS primarily used to upload data as mandated versus using HIS to immediately benefit the project

• Test Beds tend to focus either on sensor development and deployment or on aspects of cyberinfrastructure / digital watersheds. The CEOP cyberinfrastructure projects have little to say about sensors and sensor networks and then sensor focused projects

• Not yet thinking like a national testbed network as networking across testbeds has not yet occurred

• HIS is common theme/glue to helping bridge across testbeds

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Major Challenges from Statements

– Are there other key challenges / issues ?

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Suggestions for addressing challenges

General discussion on what can be done to address the defined problems and how best to institutionalize continuing information exchange in a truly collaborative collective effort. Each Breakout Session Lead is to e-mail a written report to CUAHSI before leaving for home.

Show of hands for those attending breakout groups

1st session

Group 1: Portal Performance (Graham)

Group 2: Legacy Data (Welty)

Group 3: Digital Watersheds (Bales)

Group 6: Model Support (Duffy)

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Suggestions for addressing challenges

– Show of hands for those attending breakout groups

2nd session

Group 4: Sensor Selection (Hondzo)

Group 5: Field Deployment (Stevens)

Group 7: Science Achievements (Moore)

Group 8: Auth. Issues (Reed)

For the next round is the science advanced by requiring cross multiple location science?