CIN SD Pricing Procedure

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CIN SD pricing Procedure

Pradeep Mani 193 posts since Jul 2, 2013

CIN SD pricing Procedure Sep 16, 2013 9:37 AMHi,

I am new to CIN,i was looking through various material in Google,i request to clarify following queries

1)In TAXINN pricing procedure there are various condition types,my doubt should the SD Pricing procedure for

Sales from factory,depot etc should have similar (same) condition types as in TAXINN

2)If same condition type is not required ,kindly let me know what is the linking factor between those.

3)Should all tax condition types Excise Duty,CESS,Secondary Cess and CST/VAT should have condition

category as D-Tax

4)I have doubt regarding VK11 & FV11 which condition record should be used.Which have preference over

each other.Upon what situation we should prefer FV11 over VK11

5)What is the use of MAINTAIN EXCISE GROUP ,on what occasion it is used

As most the questions might have circulated over web,but this query would benefit beginners,if we get answers

for these.

Pradeep M

Nilesh Fursule 1,129 posts since Dec 3, 2008

Re: CIN SD pricing Procedure Sep 16, 2013 1:16 PM

Hi,

Find answers in line

1)In TAXINN pricing procedure there are various condition types,my doubt should the SD Pricing procedure for

Sales from factory,depot etc should have similar (same) condition types as in TAXINN

No, pricing and tax procedures and conditions are different. Also facotry and depot have altogather different

scenarios.


Linking factor is usage of conditions in Tax codes, masters

3)Should all tax condition types Excise Duty,CESS,Secondary Cess and CST/VAT should have condition

category as D-Tax

All possible combinations, yes

4)I have doubt regarding VK11 & FV11 which condition record should be used.Which have preference over

each other.Upon what situation we should prefer FV11 over VK11

VK11

FV 11 is for procurement, Vk11 is for sales side transaciton to maintain condition records

5)What is the use of MAINTAIN EXCISE GROUP ,on what occasion it is used

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Its part of config, if its not maintain excise flow will be incolplete.




Linking factor is usage of conditions in Tax codes, masters

In Tax code,a/c key is the linkage?

Mahesh SAP


Hi,

From SD Point view ,we use only 2 Types ( Percentage base or Qty Base).

As per my knowledge most of the cases we use Percentage base and same conditions types will use all pricing

procedure.

Same will be assigned to our tax Procedure under CIN Settings.(Maintain Excise Defaults).

So at the time of executing the Transaction J1IIN , by-default system will pick Excise Duties based on above

assignment.

FV11 is used MM and FI Modules.

VK11 is purely SD module.( for Tax condition types we use Tax codes which is created in FV11).

Excise Group : it is purely internal purpose and also to update or control certain transactions in SAP.

Based on Excise Group only we can maintain Number Ranges example ( Depot Process )

Based on Excise group only we can do utilization Transaction.

Based on Excise Group only we can update and Extract the Excise Registers.


Re: CIN SD pricing Procedure Sep 17, 2013 7:16 AM

From SD Point view ,we use only 2 Types ( Percentage base or Qty Base).



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As per my knowledge most of the cases we use Percentage base and same conditions

types will use all pricing procedure.

Same will be assigned to our tax Procedure under CIN Settings.(Maintain Excise

Defaults).

Here in Maintain Excise Defaults do we enter whatever condition types used in Tax Pricing procedure(OBQ3)

or SD Pricing procedure.

TAXINN with Tax condition types or TAXINN with Condition types(BED,CESS,HCESS) in SD Pricing

Procedure

Mahesh SAP


Hi

TAXINN with Tax condition types or TAXINN with Condition types(BED,CESS,HCESS) in

SD Pricing Procedure

SD pricing Procedure condition types need to assign.



Excise Group : it is purely internal purpose and also to update or control certain transactions

in SAP.

Based on Excise Group only we can maintain Number Ranges example ( Depot Process )

Based on Excise group only we can do utilization Transaction.

Based on Excise Group only we can update and Extract the Excise Registers.

On what kind of scenario we maintain more than one excise group per plant, or only one excise group per plant

Mahesh SAP


Hi,

On what kind of scenario we maintain more than one excise group per plant, or only one

excise group per plant

As per my knowledge if any plant is divide with Wall and River or etc... then we need to create 2 excise groups

for single plant.









In SAP, we can assign Single plant with multiple Excise Groups.

Nilesh Fursule 1,129 posts since Dec 3, 2008


Conditions are generic. IF some of them are not required, either leave them as it is as they are SAP STD but

dont maintain/use them in records maintenance. Acct key is linked to condition in prising, to this acct key,

further, GL is assigned.

SAP FC 1,588 posts since Nov 5, 2007


Hi,

In case of TAXINN, you dont have any link between your Tax procedure and your SD pricing procedure.

For TAXINN, as part of sales is concerned, you have different SD condition types which you create using V/06

transaction. There is no Formula or J1ID transaction will be used in the TAXINN Concept.

The Excise conditions are directly created as SD conditions so the account assignment for different account

key in SD Pricing Procedure will be carried out in SD using VKOA transaction

For Sales tax conditions, since the conditions are created as tax conditions (Cond.Class & Cond.Catg - D

taxes) the account key will be taken from the SD Pricing procedure which has been assigned in OB40.

Condition records will be maintained in VK11 only.

Hope its clear now.

Thanks n Regards,



In case of TAXINN, you dont have any link between your Tax procedure and your SD

pricing procedure.

For TAXINN, as part of sales is concerned, you have different SD condition types which you

create using V/06 transaction. There is no Formula or J1ID transaction will be used in the

TAXINN Concept.



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So for TAXINN concept we need not maintain any thing related to J1ID settings?

SAP FC 1,588 posts since Nov 5, 2007


Hi,

Yes. no need of J1ID settings for SD incase of TAXINN.

In Std SD Pricing Procedure, you can see SD excise condition such as JEXP for which condition records will

be maintained in VK11.

Hope you are clear now.

Thanks n Regards,

Srinu S 662 posts since Jun 17, 2010


Hi,

Excise group:It is an Internal grouping which we do for each and every plant for the purpose of Excise GL

accounts

and number ranges.

Any excise transactions you do it should be routed through a particular excise group, each plant will have

separate excise group.

In Condition based There is no link between tax procedure TAXINN and your sales pricing procedure unlike

Formula based where there is link between your sales procedure and Tax procedure TAXINJ here UTXJ will

act as link between these two.

Tax procedure is used to to calculate Tax condition types

VK11 is used by SD and FV11 is for MM.

Thanks,

Srinu.

Lakshmipathi G 27,280 posts since Aug 9, 2007



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Not sure what exactly you have searched but however, below are my responses in seriatim to your queries.

1. SD Pricing Procedure would fetch the values when you generate a billing document. TAXINN procedure

would consider when you generate an excise invoice2. Link betweeen SD and Excise is in IMG > Logistics-General where, you would be assigning SD Billing

Types to Delivery types.3. Yes and you can check in OBQ1 for condition types starting with "J"4. VK11 for pricing condition records and FV11 for tax purpose

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