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Chapter of VTCI Publication of the LONG ISLAND THUNDERBIRD CLUB
JANUARY - FEBRUARY 2018
John Bianco’s 1987 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
Having spent most of my teen years growing up during the 80‟s, it was a great thing to witness the resurgence of automotive performance and
styling through new technologies. My love of Fords was happenstance having grown up a household with Generals parked in the garage. My
brother was manager of a Ford dealership and I was enamored by the latest showroom beauties he would bring home. Although I would come to
own many a Mustang throughout the years, I had always looked back on perhaps the sexiest of 80‟s Fords – the Turbo Coupe.
Flash forward three decades and I would come to behold a love gone by. My 87 Turbo Coupe was newly purchased by a gentleman from Minne-
sota on March 27, 1987 as a retirement gift for himself. He drove the car sparingly, accumulating only 26,063 miles on the car before he suc-
cumbed to Parkinson disease last year. His widow brought the car, her late husband‟s “baby” to the Ford dealer in Minnesota, where I had discov-
ered the Coupe while surfing online. Since it had sat for some time, a complete tune was done on the car as well as the replacement of all belts,
including the timing belt, cam and crank seals. This Bird is even optioned with Ford‟s Premium Sound, which included the graphic equalizer –
holy 80s! Equipped with the cast Lima-built 2.3 I4 EFI intercooled turbo, this 9th Gen Aerobird is this man-child‟s time machine.
2017 BOARD OF DIRECTORS– CLUB WEB SITE
http://clubs.hemmings.com/longislandthunderbirds/
President
Elliott Weiner
(631) 724-3756
Vice President
Paul Rosina
(516) 859-1653
Treasurer & Membership
Art Fleming
(631) 909-3853
Technical Advisor
Frank Del Rossi
(704) 483-9554
Technical Advisor
Tony Coloneri
(516) 764-4731
Charity Advisor &
Web Master
Ken Weinberg
(631)316-4637
Editor in Chief
Art Fleming
(631) 909-3853
Advertising Director
Peter Lange
(631) 499-5724
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…Wishing You an Old Fashioned Holiday Season
And a Bright and Happy New Year!
&
We have Been Invited to a Long Island Ducks Game in August
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Breakfast with the Boss - February 11th
Holiday Party/Saturday, January 6, 2018/Our Annual Trek to Irv & Josephine’s Inn of Happiness:
Well, it almost snowed on us again, but we lucked out. Baby, it was cold outside! I know how cold it was, however, on Saturday night January
6th at Nocello‟s, there was food, drink, and lots of singing and dancing in the aisles. Also, there was an abundance of warmth in the room!
Frani and I enjoyed the evening along with Mr. Fleming, John and Joy Frisebee, Peter and Ursula Lang, Bob and Mary Marketta, Bert and Joyce
Nardello plus four of their friends, Paul and Felicia Rosina
PLAY BALL
Long Island Ducks: On November 30th I received an email from Anthony Rubino, Group Sales Manager for the Long Island Ducks. He would
like us, as a club and our Thunderbirds, to come to one of the Ducks games. Since we do not have a location in August for an outdoor meeting I
thought this could happen. There are three Saturday night games in August starting at 6:35 with fireworks after the game. Keep in mind this is
not a freebee but if we get enough people interested we will get a reduced rate for the game. Our cars will be parked in front of the stadium and
security will be watching them during the game.
So, if you‟re interested in getting involved, and it‟s definitely something different, please reach out to me. The three Saturday dates in August
are: 4th, 11th and the 25th.
Sad News: Long time ITC member and a really great lady, Kitty Mummert passed away on Wednesday, December 19 th. I had the pleasure of
knowing Kitty and her late husband Norm. ...Two really great people and she will be missed. See the extra pages for her obit.
NEXT CLUB GET TOGETHER & DATE CHANGE
Breakfast with the Boss: Sunday, February 11th/South Bay Diner in Lindenhurst: For this club - an annual tradition, and if Mother Nature
cooperates bring your Bird. Game plan is to meet at 9 AM at the diner, which is located on Sunrise Highway across from Babylon Town Hall.
In case you get lost: about a ¼ mile east of Wellwood Avenue and on the south side of Sunrise Highway.
The ITC at its Worst: It has been a while since I beat up the current ITC administration - mainly their guy who calls himself the president.
Notice the lower case “p” - but never say „never‟. In the extra pages of this edition of Bird Talk there is a list made up by Jim Rugg, a former
Board Member of the ITC. The list contains former winners of the prestige‟s Presidents and Schatz Award. The majority of these winners are
now former ITC members. Does this draw a picture for you? When YKW does not need you any more, you are put out with the garbage.
A Little History on These Two Awards: Dick Schatz was a former Script Editor (ITC newsletter) and one of the founding fathers of the club.
So, to be picked for this award is a great honor. Now for the President‟s Award. To get picked for this award you must have done something
above and beyond for the club. Example; Paul Rosina won this award back 2013, and the Schatz award back in 2011, for his efforts at many of
the ITC conventions. However, as you can see, he is now a former member. Now for a period at the end of the sentence. The current President
gave himself the President‟s award in Harrisburg two years ago. As Warner Wolfe would say: “Give me a break”. They should have given him
the shovel award because of his enormous ego.
Hemmings Classic Car Magazine/February 2018 Issue: …Some really excellent articles in this edition. One deals with joining a marque car
club, and the other article deals with some interesting definitions. Some of these are repeats from past issues of HCC, but it‟s always good to
touch base again with them.
This is why marquee car clubs exist – to assist individuals in restoring a car to its as- delivered condition. Just about every club has individuals
who are available to assist other members. Ex; Paul Rosina, Frank “Sig” Signoriello, and Bob Ceraso. Some clubs have even created restora-
tion guides.
Most marquee clubs have a certain camaraderie – members enjoy helping each other get a car on the road and keeping it there. In fact, the above
does not get a better feeling in the hobby than knowing you‟ve helped a fellow car enthusiast.
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CLUB STORE
For Merchandise Call Elliott Weiner
(631) 724 - 3756
Denim Jackets - All Sizes - $40
Pro Mesh Adjustable Hats - $12
Short Sleeve Henley Shirts with Logo
Assorted Colors $15.00
Grey Sweat Shirts Embroidered,
with Club Logo - 9 oz - $15.00
Club Pins - $5.00
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LITC Scheduled Outdoor Meetings 2018
(Rain dates one week later)
Tuesday April 17th-Burger King Farmingdale
Tuesday, May 20th Thunderbird Appreciation Day
Thursday, June 21th- Kings Park Plaza
July TBA Club Car Show Kinks Park TBA
August -TBA
LITC Scheduled Indoor Meetings 2018
Bartucci’s Restaurant 881 Walt Whitman Rd Melville
LITC meets the 3rd Tuesday of Every Month 7:00PM
February 20th 2018
March 20th, 2018
September 18th, 2018
October 16th, 2018
November 13th 2018
Holiday Party January 6th 2018
Nocellos Ristorante of Northport
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
JANUARY
Darryl Dowers
Richard Galllager
Bob Reichardt
FEBRUARY
Thomas Doherty
Nancy Rajkowski
Ronald Roth
Ken Weinberg
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Event Schedule 2018
Breakfast with “The Boss”
Sunday February-11th Southbay Diner Lindenhurst
Kings Park St Patrick’s Day Parade– Saturday March 3rd
Easter Parade- Garden City– Sunday, April 1th
Empire Galaxie Cruise From Farmingdale to Orient Pt
Sunday April 15th
American Vet Dogs Sunday April 15th
St Patrick’s 12th Annual Car Show-Smithtown-TBA
National Thunderbird Appreciation Day
Sunday May 20th
Key Food Shopping Center Kings Park
Westbury Gardens - Sunday June 3rd
Ford Nationals
Carlisle, Pa. June 1-3
N. Jersey T-Bird Show - Sat. June 9th
ST Anthony Car Show Dix Hills Centurion Cruisers
Sunday June 10th
Collector Car Appreciation Day July TBA
Thunderbird/Ford Show
@ Keyfood Shopping Plaza Kings Park
Sun. July TBA
Sayville Street Fest - Sunday, August TBA
Cruzin for a Cure - Sunday, Sept. 16th
Veterans Affairs Medical Center Northport
Wednesday, September 19th
Bagels with the Boss at Lee Myles of Roslyn Hts,
September TBA
Yaphank Vets Home Sunday December TBA
Cruise Listings
MONDAY
Autofest Cruise night 5;30-9pm Syosset VFW Hall 20 Queens St
Stop & Shop West Islip Union Blvd east of Higbe Lane
Main St East Rockaway @Villa Marcia Restaurant 6pm
Bald Hill Farmingville
TUESDAY
Town of Oyster Bay - Main Street
Yaphank Fire Dept Yaphank
WEDNESDAY
Village of Westbury Madison St parking field #4 5pm to 9pm
Shirley KFC - William Floyd Parkway
Sea Cliff Fire Dept Cruise Night Sea Cliff Ave & Main St starts June 13th
5.:30 to 8:00pm $5.00 car fee
THURSDAY
Downtown Mineola Classic Motor Night Main St 6-9pm 7/7 thu 9/29
Village of Lynbrook - Street Show (Atlantic Ave.)
Lake Grove Houlihan‟s Middle Country Rd 5pm
Kings Park Plaza, Kings Park Indian Head Rd (Key Food) Sponsored by
Kings Park Chamber of Commerce and Kevin Denis of Professor‟s Diner
Room for several hundred cars All Welcome
Wendy's Oakdale - Montauk Hwy & Locust Ave Sponsored by Still Crusin
Car Club contact Ish 631-205-0510 6pm
Riverhead on the water front behind Main St weather permitting including
DJ & Refreshments
Glen Cove School St & Glen St Sponsored by Glen Cove Fire Dept $5 Dona-
tion info Bob Citko 516-676-0366
West Isilp Villa Monaco Restaurant 778 Montauk Hwy 6pm Room for 150
cars food & facilities on site Long Island Road Gents-Ray Rendina 516-523-
7130 or 631-661-3838
FRIDAY
Bellmore train Station Lot Sunrise Hwy & Bellmore Ave Sponsored by
Town of Oyster Bay
SATURDAY
Islip Town Hall 655 Main St Islip 5-9pm
McDonalds Sunrise Hwy West Islip
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Buy & Sell
Parts for Sale: 1964-44 Ford Thunderbird, New Drivers Side quarter repair
panel, motor, transmissions, fenders ,trunk lids, glass, interior, parts bought
& sold. Frank Del Rossi (704) 483-9554 1965 Ford Thunderbird Special
Edition Landau NOS Deluxe Spinner wheel covers ( TWO ) with Ford Boxes.
$400.00 Firm. Plus shipping. Frank Del Rossi (704) 483-9554
For Sale: 1965 T-Bird Special Landau (embergio/parchment interior). I
have owned the car 8 years and have restored 80%of it myself. Engine com-
partment, front end, and trunk have been detailed completely. New vinyl
top, new tires, new floor bds. front and rear). Interior redone and original.
Front bumper, grill, T-Bird emblems, handles, and rear window grill all re
chromed. 94K original miles. I have the original gate release and build
sheet. Only 4500 Specials were built. the car has many distinct features.
Asking $12,500 Call Dennis Terrell (631)888-1446
For Sale 1962 T BIRD HARDTOP Tan color, full power, factory
air, swing away steering , wire wheels. Bob Deitz 631-445-4360
FOR SALE 1979 THUNDERBIRD light blue exterior dark blue
interior & top 351 engine 5008 miles This car is original & not re-
stored & absolutely like new & fully documented asking 15K con-
tact Rich Gallager 631 682 9469
FOR SALE 1962 THUNDERBIRD Frame up late 90‟s rebuilt 390
& trans GREAT condition. Charles Steuer 631 563 6791 asking
$12,000
FOR SALE 1956 T-BIRD White w/white hardtop,black convtop
80K on rebuilt engine many other parts asking 30K Denise
Miller 516 825 0735
CLUB JACKETS
SEE ELLIOTT WEINER IF INTERESTED
IN ORDERING
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THE LONG ISLAND THUNDERBIRD CLUB 2017 HOLIDAY PARTY
Nocellos Ristorante of Northport January 6th 2018
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Continued From Page 3 President’s Message
Confused Definitions – Just a Few
It’s “an Antique” if it’s 25 years old: This is perhaps the biggest falsehood of all time. Just because many car clubs, such as the AACA, state
that a car has to be 25 years old to qualify for admission, that doesn‟t mean that something is an authentic “antique”, or “classic” for that matter.
There are many different classifications, depending on the year, make and model of the car. The general consensus is that cars of the early post-
war era can be referred to as “classics,” but usually anything built from the mid-70‟s onward is simply called a “collector car.” Therefore, all
desirable old cars are collector cars; however, not all collector cars are classics or antiques.
“Mint Condition”: The only thing that can be labeled “mint” is an uncirculated coin that has never been touched. Even cars that have just
rolled off the assembly line were not mint as that had handprints all over them. So let‟s toss this overused, mislabeled term aside and replace it
with something more appropriate and more truthful; how‟s “excellent showroom condition” sound?
New Member: John Bianco from Floral Park with his 1987 Thunderbird Turbo Couple. John is also our theme car for this issue.
Suffolk County United Veterans in Yaphank: On Sunday, December 10th our club, T.O.N.Y., and a few other car clubs met at the Vets Home
in Yaphank….Very cold today, and no hanging outside to BS. Last year we were spoiled with t shirt weather. No toys today. From the LITC:
Bob Marketta, and yours truly, the club donated close to $150.00 in new clothes. …a great cause. There should have been more people and clubs
involved. Maybe next year………..
President’s Council Meeting/Sunday, February 18, 2018: This year‟s meeting is being hosted by the North Fork Cruisers in Rocky Point. A
full report will be in next month‟s newsletter‟s President‟s Message.
Our Next Indoor Club Meeting is Tuesday, February 20, 2018 @ Bertucci’s Restaurant in Melville/Guest Speaker: Start time is 7 p.m.
and we will have a guest speaker. The gentlemen who photographed my car for Old Cars Weekly, Frank LiBretto, will be our guest speaker.
Old Time Radio Shows: I‟m a big fan of old time radio shows. The Lone Ranger, Gunsmoke, Richard Diamond Private Eye staring Dick Pow-
ell, Green Hornet, and lastly Johnny Dollar Insurance Investigator. If anybody is interested, I will be giving away some of the CD‟s for the afore
mentioned shows. If you want a set, and I will bring them to the next meeting, you must let me know what you want. First come first served.
2018 Event and Meeting Calendar: Check out page #4 and #6. Note that the Kings Park St. Patty‟s Day Parade is the first Saturday in March.
If you want to be in the parade via your Bird you need to let me know. Remember - “Breakfast with the Boss” on Sunday, February 11th at
South Bay Diner in Lindenhurst. Also, note Sunday, April 15th for the Cruise to Orient Point with Mr. Carberry and the Empire Galaxie Car
Club…..just a few dates to keep in mind!
Valentine’s Day/Wednesday, February 14, 2018: How important is this day? What does Webster say about “important?”
2017 in Retro Spec & Thank You: Looking back at 2017 I would say we had a pretty good year. …Had a great car show, and we are already
starting to make plans for this year. I met some really nice folks during the year, who are now my friends. I want to thank our Board for their
time and staying on top of things. A special thank you to Paul Rosina for keeping Big Bird alive and well, and another “attaboy” to Arlene
Swenson from TONY - my unofficial publisher assistant who reads and edits my President‟s message, and consistently offers suggestions for
my content. …for Frani and me - two new Grandchildren - Noah (we call him No No) and Logan. …for me - staying vertical and above ground
is a challenge.
2018 Club Dues is Due Now: …Just a friendly reminder that your dues for 2018 are due now. Please complete the form in your package and
mail everything to: Art Fleming at P.O. Box 673, Mastic, NY 11950-0673
…and, you‟re Welcome………
2018 CLUB DUES IS DUE NOW
Suffolk Country United Veterans Home in Yaphank December 10th 2017
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L.I.THUNDERBIRD CLUB NEXT INDOOR MEETING
DATE: Tuesday February 20th 7:00pm
PLACE: Bartucci‟s Restaurant 881 Walt Whitman Rd Melville
Directions: one block north of Northern State Pkwy -RT110
becomes Walt Whitman Rd
NEXT INDOOR MEETING:
Tuesday March 20th 2018
KITTY MUMMERT
INTERNATIONAL THUNDERBIRD CLUB
It is with great sadness that I must report that Kitty Mummert passed away on December 19th. Kitty was a
MATC Board member and past treasurer. She was also a former ITC treasurer. Because of continuing health issues she had recently moved from her long time home in Pennsylvania to reside with her son in New York State. Kitty, and her late husband Norm, were stalwarts in the TBird hobby for over 40 years. They were original members of the Mid-Atlantic Thunderbird Club, and founding members of ITC. Norm was fondly known in the hobby as Mr. Thunderbird for his technical knowledge of TBirds, especially the 55-66 models. Norm and Kitty had a collection of over 30 TBirds before his passing. Kitty was always the per-fect hostess, providing a warm welcome to new members of both MATC and ITC. She coordinated the MATC Christmas Party at Dobbin House in Gettysburg, PA, for over 20 years. She was actively involved in the planning and coordination of many ITC conventions. She will be greatly missed by all who knew her or had the opportunity to meet and know her. Arrangements are as follows: Viewing: Wednesday, December 27, from 6pm to 8pm at the LeRoy Leber Funeral Home, 2290 School Street in York (Shiloh), PA. 17408 Funeral service: First United Methodist Church, 200 Frederick Street, Hanover, PA., at 10 AM on Thursday, December 28. There will be graveside services on Friday at 10am at the Prospect Hill Cemetery in York. Condolences may be sent to her family in c/o her son: Greg Mummert, 1280 Blood Road Cowlesville, NY 14037.
Skip Panowitz
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EMPIRE GALAXIE CAR CRUISE PRE-REGISTRATION
Cruise Pre-Registration of $20 gets you 20 raffle tickets towards donated prizes and 1 event T-Shirt to first
100 preregistrants.
Some prizes will be awarded at the start of the cruise in Farmingdale and the rest will be awarded at the
conclusion at the luncheon in Southold. You can purchase additional raffle tickets now or the day of the
cruise.
Pre-registration is not required but helps the event run smoother. E-Mail [email protected] for more
info.
Day-Of registration will be $20 for 10 raffle tickets. Additional raffle tickets available for $ 2.00 each.
Name________________________________
Street______________________________________________
Town___________________________________ State____________ Zip ______________
E-mail or phone contact (optional) ______________________________________________
Vehicle Year ______ Make ______________ Model ____________________ (optional)
Expected number of passengers _______ + Driver = Total participants expected _________
Luncheon in Southold at conclusion will be catered by Michaelangelo’s of Southold Restaurant.
A buffet of hot dishes will be available. Food cost per person for luncheon will be $20. Beverages additional.
Please circle pre-registration T-Shirt size Medium Large Extra Large Double X Large
Your raffle tickets, T-Shirt & wristband for luncheon participants will be given to youon the morning of the
event.
Pre-Registration Fee for 1 vehicle, unlimited passengers, 20 Raffle tickets, 1 T-Shirt $ __20__________
Additional Pre-Registration Raffle tickets @ $1.00 each_________= $ ______________
Luncheon Pre-Registration $20 per person x ___ people = $______________
Car Club Affiliation_____________________________ Total Paid for Pre-registration =
$_______________
Before 3-27-18 checks can be made out & sent to: Empire Galaxie Car Club, 566 Fulton St, Farmingdale
NY 11735
After March 28th 2018, please make out checks to: Americas VetDogs
Pre-registrations must be received by March 27th 2018. NO EXCEPTIONS!!!
See Page 17 for completed form
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The undersigned agrees to indemnify and hold harmless the Empire Galaxie Car Club, LI GTO Club of New York, LI Chapter
Pontiac/Oakland
Club and its officers & members, Americas VetDogs & affiliates, event advertisers and American Legion Hall #803 against all
liability of loss,
injury or damages that the participants and/or family, relatives or guests may sustain or incur as a result of claims, cost or
judgments arising
from involvement in this event. All drivers must adhere to all speed limits and traffic laws at all times.
Signature of participating driver ____________________________________
THIS IS A RAIN OR SHINE EVENT!!!
THE PURPOSE OF THIS EVENT IS TO HELP PROVIDE WOUNDED VETERANS WITH
ASSISTANCE DOGS TO HELP THEM COPE WITH THE INJURIES THEY RECEIVED
WHILE
SERVING OUR COUNTRY.
THEY SERVE OUR COUNTRY RAIN OR SHINE. FREEZING COLD OR BLISTERING
HEAT.
IF YOU DON’T WANT TO TAKE OUT YOUR CLASSIC IN CASE OF POOR WEATHER,
YOU
ARE WELCOME TO PARTICIPATE IN YOUR “REGULAR” EVERYDAY CAR.
AMERICA’S VETDOGS IS 100% SUPPORTED BY DONATIONS THAT COME FROM
INDIVIDUALS, CORPORATIONS, FOUNDATIONS, SERVICE CLUBS AND EVENTS
SUCH
AS THIS CLASSIC CAR CRUISE.
Any pre-registration fees paid will be considered a donation to Americas VetDogs if you do not participate on the day of the
event.
LAST YEAR’S LUNCHEON AT THE FINISH WAS
A SELLOUT SO BE SURE TO PRE-REGISTER!!!
Completed form for event from page 16
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John Bianco’s 1987 Thunderbird Turbo Coupe
February 17th and 18th 2018
Pennsylvania Farm Show Complex 2300 N. Cameron Harrisberg PA 17110
www.motoramaevents.com
GROUP LIFT PURCHASE Is anyone interested in buying a 4-post lift for their garage? I am refurbishing my garage, and have done some research on lifts. I have settled on the Backyard Buddy 7,000lb.
Standard Lift. BYB can store 2 cars in the space of one, requiring just 9' wide, 16' long, 9' ceiling height, and a 120V outlet to store one car above another car, where the lower car is
60" at its highest point or less (e.g. my 1970 Boss 302 on top of my 2013 Boss 302, for ex-ample). The lift is made in Warren, OH, has the best construction & lift locking system in my
opinion, offers jacks, drip pans, and wheels for movement, and offers the best warranty I can find. Go to their website & see for yourself www.backyardbuddy.com. It is also probably
the most expensive 4-post lift at $4,595. But I want one! I would like to assemble a group of 10 or more car guys living here on Long Island who
would like to buy this lift this summer. Then I intend to take the order to the All Ford Na-tionals (June 2-4), where Backyard Buddy will have a booth. My theory is in addition to the
$300 - 400 show special, I can negotiate a volume price delivered to one "area". By negoti-ating a group purchase discount added to the reduced freight and the show special, I am go-
ing to try to knock $ 500 - 1,000 off the standard retail price of the lift.
Please realize (1) You will still have to pay someone to install the lift at your home ($500 -
1,000), (2) You will have to modify your garage door tracks to clear the lift (~$200), (3) There is no guarantee of the final price; I can only try to get the $1,000 discount I seek. But
10 units should get us some discount; 20+ units will entice the manufacture to give a sub-stantial discount. As an additional incentive, I would invite the Backyard Buddy Marketing
team to come to Long Island and talk to / interview those who participated for their advertis-ing testimonials.
Please contact me by phone or email (below) with any questions, giving me your name, your
email address, phone, and address as confirmation you are willing to spend the necessary funds in June-July. Thank you!
John Dettori
MCA National Director
[email protected] 631 807 1227
RICH GALLAGERS 1979 THUNDERBIRD
351 engine 5008 miles
This car is all original & not restored & fully documented
Asking 15K
see page 7 for more info
FOR SALE
1962 FORD THUNDERBIRD $12,000
THE CAR HAS HAD A FRAME UP IN THE LATE 90‟S. REBUILT 390 V8, ALONG WITH TRANSMISSION,
SUSPENSION, BRAKES. BRAKE AND FUEL LINES, RADIATOR, EXHAUST SYSTEM. ALL CHROME IS EI-
THER NEW OR REPLATED POLISHED AND BUFFED. NEW PAINT, INTERIOR, WIRE-WHEELS, AM/FM
CASSETTE RADIO. ALONG WITH POWEER STEERING, AND WINDOWS.
Charles Steuer 631 563 6791
66 T-Bird For Sale
66 Thunderbird project car for sale. Body in very good condition.
Factory A/C, power windows, 390 cid, Brittany blue, 112,000 miles on car but engine
has been replaced.
Engine has new timing chain, oil pump, gaskets & seals
Many new parts including brake booster, master cylinder, power steering pump, wir-
ing, A/C & P/S hoses.
Needs completion, just don‟t have the time to finish it but will continue working on it
until done or sold. And price will go up as work continues.
Cap-A-Radiator 516-293-9026 or e-mail [email protected]