Carl Zeiss Guide
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Car Zeiss Guide This guide is in response to the number of fake or non-genuine Carl Zeiss binoculars being so bay. It applies mainly to the Zeiss Jenoptem 8x! or "!x#! binoculars and on rare occasions to the These %ere sold mainly from mail order catalogues in &ritain in the late $!s to early 8!s. 'e %ere contracted out by Zeiss to Japanese makers or (ust fakes is difficult to ascertain today point is they are *ery inferior to the +erman made article and do not sur*i*e constant use. If the bino is a Jenoptem in the abo*e si,es and has a six figure serial number it is not +er E ually if it has any letters in the serial number it is a fake. +enuine binos al%ays ha*e a serial number. The focusing %heel %ill be black plastic and has a ring impressed into the fro +enuine article is metal smaller and usually has minor paint loss. /mooth paint and a rubber are on the fakes. +erman article has dappled paint and a slightly slippery feel. 0akes are al marked as multicoated. 1n the real thing the scre% on the top plate is right beside the 232 o )ulticoated on the fake it is about three- uarters of an inch a%ay. 4ll %ill ha*e 23352 or 2 3352 some%here on the genuine binos. That means they %ere made in the old East +ermany. If there is the legend 8.6 3egrees or similar on the plates of the ob(ecti*e end 7lo%er and an often 292 they are fakes. 0ocusing on my +enuine Zeiss binos bought from the late :ic 1dden in ";$8 for <#8 is a dream. fakes %hich I o%ned by accident until I got to kno% better focusing %as sticky tightish and ne*er smooth. 'hat is %orse I ha*e seen t%o examples %here the spiral on %hich the focusing turns actually snapped and the bino %as useless There are other differences but there is enough information here for you to identify the fake they any good points> 1ptically they are not bad and they %ill take a fe% knocks %ithout goin alignment. They are (ust another Jap bino and they are certainly not %orth the money some peo are paying for them. )ost ha*e impressed lettering but on a *ery fe% it is stencilled. If you are buying Jenoptems in the abo*e si,es make sure you kno% the serial number and if it 23352 some%here on it. &e %ary of *ague or blatently dishonest sellers. )ost kno% exactly %ha ha*e. ?erse*ere and get the the genuine article. They are the best *alue binos on E-bay today
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Carl Zeis Binoculars Guide
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Car Zeiss Guide
This guide is in response to the number of fake or non-genuine Carl Zeiss binoculars being sold on E-bay.
It applies mainly to the Zeiss Jenoptem 8x30 or 10x50 binoculars and on rare occasions to the 7x50. These were sold mainly from mail order catalogues in Britain in the late 70s to early 80s. Wether they were contracted out by Zeiss to Japanese makers or just fakes is difficult to ascertain today. Main point is they are very inferior to the German made article and do not survive constant use.
If the bino is a Jenoptem in the above sizes and has a six figure serial number it is not German made. Equally if it has any letters in the serial number it is a fake. Genuine binos always have a seven figure serial number. The focusing wheel will be black plastic and has a ring impressed into the front. Genuine article is metal, smaller and usually has minor paint loss. Smooth paint and a rubbery feel are on the fakes. German article has dappled paint and a slightly slippery feel. Fakes are always marked as multicoated. On the real thing the screw on the top plate is right beside the 'D' of Multicoated, on the fake it is about three-quarters of an inch away. All will have 'DDR' or 'Made in DDR' somewhere on the genuine binos. That means they were made in the old East Germany. If there is the legend 8.2 Degrees or similar on the plates of the objective end (lower) and an initial, often 'K' they are fakes.
Focusing on my Genuine Zeiss binos bought from the late Vic Odden in 1978 for 58 is a dream. On fakes which I owned by accident until I got to know better focusing was sticky, tightish and certainly never smooth. What is worse, I have seen two examples where the spiral on which the focusing wheel turns actually snapped and the bino was useless
There are other differences but there is enough information here for you to identify the fakes. Have they any good points? Optically they are not bad and they will take a few knocks without going out of alignment. They are just another Jap bino and they are certainly not worth the money some people are paying for them. Most have impressed lettering but on a very few it is stencilled.
If you are buying Jenoptems in the above sizes make sure you know the serial number and if it has 'DDR' somewhere on it. Be wary of vague or blatently dishonest sellers. Most know exactly what they have. Persevere and get the the genuine article. They are the best value binos on E-bay today.
Monday, 3 January 2011Carl Zeiss Jena DDR Binoculars and How To Date Them.
My link to Carl Zeiss West German Porro Prism Binoculars and dating them.http://www.binocularsexplained.com/2012/01/carl-zeiss-west-german-binoculars-and.html
Also more links dating Carl Zeiss 'West German' Dialyt's at the foot of this page.Click on any of my photos to enlarge!Binoculars for Sale.Incidentally, if anyone wishes to advertise for sale any of their binoculars on any of my blogs, they have my permission to do so simply by advertising in the www.Binocularsexplained.com Post a Comment section below. I will not however accept any liability.
You can date Zeiss Jena Binoculars by their seven digit serial numbers. The preceding year of serial numbers continue up until the next date. So, if your serial number is higher than the date opposite, your binocular will be the next date up!(Date/Year) (Serial Numbers)(1894) 205.
(1895) 1476.
(1896) 4251.
(1897) 8412.
(1898) 13838.
(1899) 21370.(1900) 30658.
(1901) 40156.
(1902) 48491.
(1903) 58446.
(1904) 71724.
(1905) 89422.
(1906) 107576.
(1907) 124727.
(1908) 147707.
(1909) 181759.
(1910) 218120.
(1911) 261737.
(1912) 314098.
(1913) 366268.
(1914) 432900.
(1915) 547521.
(1916) 639799.
(1917) 792232.
(1918) 990786.
(1919) 1051870.
(1920) 1089848.
(1921) 1128929.
(1922) 1176911.
(1923) 1209242.
(1924) 1236681.
(1925) 1294010.
(1926) 1334471.
(1927) 1380999.
(1928) 1442819.
(1929) 1493979.
(1930) 1543439.
(1931) 1579184.
(1932) 1607007.
(1933) 1628868.
(1934) 1660396.
(1935) 1705441.
(1936) 1751204.
(1937) 1801967.
(1938) 1865276.
(1939) 1935538.
(1940) 2017171.
(1941) 2105419.
(1942) 2167993.
(1943) 2228256.
(1944) 2293770.
(1945) 2348412.
(1946) 2398397.
(1947) 2408116.
(1948) 2408116.
Post WWII Carl Zeiss Jena binocular production had moved from Jena to Eisfeld by 1956. My links to daing Carl Zeiss "West German" Binoculars at the bottom of this page.(Year) (Serial numbers)(1949) 2424280.Up until following year:(1950) 2447960.(1951) 2486465.(1952) 2539205.(1953) 2630255.
(1954) 2707680.
(1955) 2772726.
(1956) 2830702.
(1957) 2914031.
(1958) 2977102.
(1959) 3033101.
(1960) 3090501.
(1961) 3149501.
(1962) 3246001.
(1963) 3314001.
(1964) 3400001.
(1965) 3417501.
(1966) 3474501.
(1967) 3481101.
(1968) 3541701.
(1969) 3640111.
(1970) 3794411.
(1971) 3882562.
(1972) 3976162.
(1973) 4046362.
(1974) 4211322.
(1975) 4339912.
(1976) 4489512.
(1977) 4667512.
(1978) Multi-coatings introduced. 4820812.
(1979) 4985612.
(1980) 5456932.
(1981) 5661332.
(1982) 5672732.
(1983) 6046032.
(1984) 6068032.
(1985) 6289001.
(1986) 6447042.
(1987) 6637173.
(1988) 6897473.
(1989) 7053473.
(1990) 7241173.
(1991) 7246633.
End of production.
Link to my article on Zeiss Jena Jenoptems, also an early Zeiss copy!To date, I have only ever found 8x30 and 10x50 Zeiss Jena copies and all had only six digit Serial numbers!Both Multi-coated lenses and without.
http://www.binocularsexplained.com/2010/12/carl-zeiss-8x30w-jena-jenoptem.html
I know the Zeiss Jena's prior to 1919 above have less than seven digit serial numbers but, I'm only refering to the ones made after the War.
Carl Zeiss JenaBinoculars for Sale.Incidentally, if anyone wishes to advertise for sale any of their binoculars on any of my blogs, they have my permission to do so simply by advertising in the www.Binocularsexplained.com Post a Comment section below. I will not however accept any liability.
Binoculars Explained first page link:http://www.binocularsexplained.com/2010/12/welcome-to-binoculars-explained.html
Link to my more recent 2012 Carl Zeiss ''West German'' Porro Prism Binoculars and dating them.http://www.binocularsexplained.com/2012/01/carl-zeiss-west-german-binoculars-and.html
Link to my more recent 2012 Zeiss West German Dialyt 10x40 Binoculars and dating them.http://www.binocularsexplained.com/2012/01/carl-zeiss-10-x-40-dialyt-and-how-to.html
Link to my more recent 2012 Zeiss West German Dialyt 8x30 Binoculars and dating them.http://www.binocularsexplained.com/2012/01/carl-zeiss-8x30-dialyt-and-how-to-date.html
Link to my more recent 2012 Zeiss West German Dialyt 7x42 Binoculars and dating them.http://www.binocularsexplained.com/2012/01/zeiss-7x42-b-dialyt-and-how-to-date.html
Link to my more recent 2012 Zeiss West German Dialyt 8x56 Binoculars and dating them.http://www.binocularsexplained.com/2012/01/zeiss-8x56-b-dialyt-and-how-to-date.html
I intend to add more to these lists in the near future.I hope they will help you!Old Zeiss binoculars are like Volkswagen's, they hold their money!A Great investment for the future.Binoculars for Sale.Advertise your Binoculars for sale in the www.Binocularsexplained.com Post a Comment section below. I will not however accept any liability.
