Archive Session 100

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ukedchat Archive 31 May 2012Hosted by @TheHeadsOffice

The New Inspection: how formative is it andhow should Ofsted develop in the future?'

20:00:08 ukedchat

It's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat - 'New Inspection: howformative is it and how should Ofsted develop in thefuture? with @theheadsoffice

20:00:18 SirWilshaw

So, was thinking about letting you know I was tweeting

about #ukedchat tonight but thought I'd drop in...unannounced.

20:00:42 TheHeadsOffice#ukedchat Oftsed is not going to disappear in the nearfuture so how can it help our practice?

20:00:53 MrWaldram @oldandrewuk haha #ukedchat

20:01:06 mrpeel#ukedchat it isn't formative in the slightest, let's behonest. But that isn't really the purpose is it?

20:01:27 pwardle0910

RT @syded06: Solo Taxonomy Explained -MentorMob http://t.co/XACPtJ2Q #soloarmy

#ukedchat #flipclass

20:01:27 TheHeadsOffice#ukedchat Inspectors see best practice all the time.how can that be shared?

20:01:33 ethinking#ukedchat I put it to you that the current process isformative - with accountability

20:01:52 TheHeadsOffice

RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat it isn't formative in theslightest, let's be honest. But that isn't really thepurpose is it? >Shoukld'nt it be?

20:02:07 KempsterD

RT @SirWilshaw So, was thinking about letting you

know I was tweeting about #ukedchat tonight butthought I'd drop in... unannounced.

20:02:28 MrWaldram

RT @sirwilshaw: So, was thinking about letting youknow I was tweeting about #ukedchat tonight butthought I'd drop in... unannounced.

20:02:44 Mad_teach#ukedchat they could start by practicing what theypreach!

20:02:45 CanonsOPP

RT @KempsterD: RT @SirWilshaw So, was thinkingabout letting you know I was tweeting about#ukedchat tonight but thought I'd drop in...unannounced.

20:02:47 lizdudley

#ukedchat so how do we think the new criteria isgoing to have an impact? I'm also interested in thedifferent notice times for FE v school

20:02:58 KempsterD

RT @mrpeel #ukedchat it isn't formative in theslightest, let's be honest. But that isn't really thepurpose is it? What is the point of it

20:03:02 nickotkdIV#ukedchat we have a SIP who does OFSTED and sheshares best practise with your school.

20:03:21 MrEllison1983 #ukedchat As a class teacher, I was judged on 32

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minutes of teaching. Only advice was that my classwas loud and boisterous, quiet down.

20:03:29 TheHeadsOffice#ukedchat @lizdudley does a shorter notice periodmake a difference? Should it?

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they get the same notification time... #ukedchat

20:05:17 mattharding007 #ukedchat Ofsted should develop its people skills.

20:05:22 MissBex_M

RT @TheHeadsOffice: #ukedchat Oftsed is not goingto disappear in the near future so how can it help our

practice?

20:05:28 Mad_teach

#ukedchat short notice - less time to panic! And if urdoin a good job everyday, does it matter when theycome???

20:05:29 MissBex_M

RT @ukedchat: It's 8pm. Time for #ukedchat - 'NewInspection: how formative is it and how should Ofsteddevelop in the future? with @theheadsoffice

20:05:31 mattharding007 #ukedchat Ofsted should develop a love of teachers.

20:05:54 rsdiscos

RT @nickotkdIV: #ukedchat i believe OFSTED people

should be given time to work in school to allow thisBest Practice to be shared!

20:05:55 MrWaldram

@theheadsoffice I don't think so, if you're good on aregular basis, why should it be any different whenvisitors come in? #ukedchat

20:05:55 B_Sharpie

RT @digitaldaisies: @TheHeadsOffice That is theproblem with OFSTED set up - not designed todisseminate ideas, just to judge #ukedchat

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20:06 ukedchat

#ukedchat topic reminder: 'New Inspection: howformative is it and how should Ofsted develop in thefuture?' with @theheadsoffice

20:06:01 Blenkaz

#ukedchat recently suffered ofsted as an NQT! Canhonestly say didn't see the point! Surely their is a lesspressurised alternative?

20:06:12 mrpeel

#ukedchat the issue is the perceived need forinspection - summative activity. Build dialogue andshare good practice in school


RT @Mad_teach: #ukedchat short notice - less time topanic! And if ur doin a good job everyday, does itmatter when they come???

20:06:28 KempsterD

RT @digitaldaisies @TheHeadsOffice That is theproblem with OFSTED set up - not designed todisseminate ideas, just to judge #ukedchat

20:06:50 MichaelaPorter2@Mad_teach agree that short notice is less stressful,if you have nothing to hide why worry #ukedchat

20:07:12 nickotkdIV

@norfolkshine OFSTED should be more of a two way

communication #ukedchat

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20:07:12 mrpeel#ukedchat if an OFSTED suit came to disseminate,how many would feel that they could openly disagree?

20:07:19 Blenkaz

#ukedchat why not have realistic current outstandingteachers visit schools to obs and offer general

feedback to schools?


RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat the issue is the perceivedneed for inspection - summative activity. Builddialogue and share good practice in school

20:07:36 CanonsOPP#ukedchat Almost zero notice inspection could(should) help us to be bolder as leaders. Endgame.

20:07:37 mattharding007 #ukedchat Ofsted should develop a sense of realism.

20:07:43 lizdudley

#ukedchat I guess what I'd like to see is more goodpractice visits. Our STEM division was visited last

year to see what we did well

20:07:43 MrWaldram@theheadsoffice @Mad_teach Totally agreed, that'swhat I said #ukedchat

20:07:45 urban_teacherOfsted should be tailored more to each individualschool #ukedchat

20:07:48 ePaceonlineRT @nickotkdIV: @norfolkshine OFSTED should bemore of a two way communication #ukedchat

20:08:04 SirWilshawSo, would you prefer no notice or too much notice?#ukedchat

20:08:05 talktofile

@TheHeadsOffice inspectors observations andreports don't provide useful feedback for improvement,merely a snapshot the school #ukedchat

20:08:07 Monty_Math#ukedchat does anyone think ofsted inspections leadto school improvement?

20:08:07 mattharding007#ukedchat Ofsted should develop a level of supportfor teachers.

20:08:08 Blenkaz

#ukedchat give 5 key strengths and 5 key areas forimprovement! If prospective parents are bothered theycan look at these...


RT @Blenkaz: #ukedchat why not have realisticcurrent outstanding teachers visit schools to obs andoffer general feedback to schools?>Gr8!

20:08:22 CanonsOPP

@MrWaldram @theheadsoffice Couldn't agree more.We need to be good for our student. Good thingsfollow that. #ukedchat

20:08:26 nickotkdIV

#ukedchat why not have realistic current outstandingteachers visit schools to obs and offer generalfeedback to schools?

20:08:26 KempsterD ...and a lot of Ofsted judgements are spurious, based

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on little evidence. Schls shld always challengedecisions if they are wrong #ukedchat

20:08:28 ICTwitzThere is still a lot of stressed placed on teachers byHT's based on OfSTED. This is unhealthy #ukedchat

20:08:29 mattharding007 #ukedchat Ofsted should develop a new head honcho.

20:08:30 mrpeel

#ukedchat all in perception of purpose. We feelOFSTED are trying to catch us out... are they? anyonefrom OFSTED in tonight?


RT @CanonsOPP: #ukedchat Almost zero noticeinspection could (should) help us to be bolder asleaders. Endgame.> That's short!

20:08:34 lizdudley

RT @Blenkaz: #ukedchat why not have realisticcurrent outstanding teachers visit schools to obs and

offer general feedback to schools?

20:08:36 talktofile

@nickotkdIV old school idea of week long embeddedinspections or local authority improvementpartnerships... #ukedchat

20:08:38 andywhiteway@Blenkaz agreed. Who has ever had meaningfulfeedback? I haven't from 5 inspections #ukedchat

20:08:38 digitaldaisies

@TheHeadsOffice doubt it. 'We' have little control.Inspectors I've come across v fair and knowledgeablebut system's all wrong #ukedchat

20:08:39 Blenkaz #ukedchat what does the grade actually show? Is itbased mainly on paperwork?

20:08:45 TheHeadsOfficeRT @mattharding007: #ukedchat Ofsted shoulddevelop a sense of realism. >In what way?

20:08:52 syded06

@MichaelaPorter2 Ofsted should be treated as anopportunity for improvement.However the school are

judged so we jump through hoops #ukedchat

20:08:54 ethinking#ukedchat @TheHeadsOffice ofsted produce manyreports summarising good practice

20:09:09 MrTomtheTeacher

#ukedchat A thought; could OFSTED drop in a fewtimes a year, rather than one high pressure week?Would get better picture. #randomsampling


RT @urban_teacher: Ofsted should be tailored moreto each individual school #ukedchat >how would yousee that working?

20:09:32 StephenLev

@TheHeadsOffice @Mad_teach Good point BUT itdoes depend on what you judge to be a good job.#ukedchat

20:09:34 lizdudley #ukedchat just means that we should be inspection

ready all the time, keep on top of paperwork & teach

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like we do all the time, brilliantly

20:09:37 Blenkaz@SirWilshaw #ukedchat no notice, realisticexpectations

20:09:39 MissBex_M

RT @TheHeadsOffice: RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat the

issue is the perceived need for inspection - summativeactivity. Build dialogue and share good practice inschool

20:09:47 mrpeel

#ukedchat short notice prevents faking of quality... itneeds to also recognise that it will see real lessons-warts and all and not judge.


RT @mattharding007: #ukedchat Ofsted shoulddevelop a level of support for teachers. >From Ofstedor LAs?

20:09:58 MissBex_M

RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat all in perception of purpose.We feel OFSTED are trying to catch us out... arethey? anyone from OFSTED in tonight?

20:10:05 TheHeadsOfficeRT @Monty_Math: #ukedchat does anyone thinkofsted inspections lead to school improvement?

20:10:11 CanonsOPP@TheHeadsOffice Not sure what you mean?#ukedchat

20:10:22 MissBex_M

RT @TheHeadsOffice: RT @Blenkaz: #ukedchat whynot have realistic current outstanding teachers visitschools to obs and offer general feedback to schools?>Gr8!

20:10:23 ePaceonline

#ukedchat notice or not, Ofsted is stressful forschools, I would like it to be an educationalimprovement partner rather than a judge.

20:10:25 rpwillan

Actually found ofsted a pleasant experience. Was likea performance management lesson with loads of goodfeedback #ukedchat

20:10:25 rpwillan

Actually found ofsted a pleasant experience. Was likea performance management lesson with loads of goodfeedback #ukedchat

20:10:40 talktofile

@TheHeadsOffice @urban_teacher #ukedchat longterm partnerships could build real understanding ofschool's strengths and weaknesses

20:10:45 ethinking

#ukedchat @TheHeadsOffice @mrpeel ofsted is thechecks and the process of self evaluation is formative- its only hostile if schools fear it

20:10:50 GeographyCarrie @mrpeel Good question! #ukedchat

20:10:53 ethinking RT @KempsterD: RT @SirWilshaw So, was thinking

about letting you know I was tweeting about

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#ukedchat tonight but thought I'd drop in...unannounced.

20:11:05 mrpeel#ukedchat which is more important to you - teach wellor teach "OFSTED-well"?


#ukedchat Re: short notice. Before, we had 3-4 weeksnotice. Ridiculous amount of pre-planning &rehearsing went on #unrepresentative

20:11:07 MichelleDhillon@mrpeel Agreed! I think Ofsted do judge though, andharshly #ukedchat

20:11:08 B_Sharpie

@theheadsoffice The 'over time' emphasis supportsplanned lessons v 1 off, pulled out of the bagoutstanding lessons #ukedchat Good thing?!

20:11:10 MrWaldram

@mrtomtheteacher Would that increase pressure and

anxiety or decrease it? #ukedchat

20:11:18 CanonsOPP

#ukedchat The big issue is not the short noticeinspections, but the long lead in generated by the "youmay be seen this year" letters.

20:11:25 KempsterDI don't believe that are schools would be any better orworse if we scrapped Ofsted altogether. #ukedchat


RT @mattharding007: #ukedchat Ofsted shoulddevelop a new head honcho. >Is it down to the leaderthen?

20:11:26 MichelleDhillon

RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat short notice prevents fakingof quality... it needs to also recognise that it will seereal lessons -warts and all and not judge.

20:11:27 Mad_teach

#ukedchat @stevenlev but the whole thing is sosubjective anyway! Self assessment, 1 inspectormight love it, another hate it etc etc

20:11:44 mattharding007

RT @ePaceonline: #ukedchat notice or not, Ofsted isstressful for schools, I would like it to be aneducational improvement partner rather than a judge.

20:11:49 SirWilshaw@Blenkaz Good... well, that's what we're movingtowards. #ukedchat

20:11:57 GeographyCarrie


20:11:57 syded06Surely what is right for Ofsted isn't necessarily right forall schools? #ukedchat

20:11:59 Blenkaz

@TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat general ambiance ofschool! Absolutely awful time, just glad it was over inthe end!

20:11:59 TheHeadsOffice RT @MrTomtheTeacher: #ukedchat A thought; could

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OFSTED drop in a few times a year, rather than onehigh pressure week? Would get better picture.#randomsampling

20:11:59 MichaelaPorter2

@syded06 hoops set based on paperwork rather than

visit... Can't win #ukedchat

20:12 mrpeel

@MichelleDhillon #ukedchat so do I and theyshouldn't but they are in essence the theatre critics -it's their job. I wouldn't want it.

20:12:02 ethinking#ukedchat @nickotkdIV that's called a schoolimprovement advisor/ partner that exists already

20:12:06 CanonsOPP

@ePaceonline Nice idea but SIPs weren't much useand were ditched as a good idea badly implemented.#ukedchat

20:12:14 SirWilshaw

So what if we do a no-notice inspection and half thestaff are out on residential or the SLT is not there?#ukedchat

20:12:16 sazzled81

Had feedback once following observation of lesson-had to ask for it. Needs to be greater communicationrather then them and us #ukedchat

20:12:19 emmaannhardy


20:12:23 CanonsOPP

RT @ethinking: #ukedchat @TheHeadsOffice@mrpeel ofsted is the checks and the process of selfevaluation is formative - its only hostile if schools fearit

20:12:25 eXactlearning

@LT13uk: Watch in Full: David Wilson -The fall andrise of the corporate academy' #LT12uk conf sess[VIDEO] http://t.co/ymFp9IBz #ukedchat

20:12:50 TeachingTricks

#ukedchat what about advisory inspections, oneswithout formal judgements but support given &constructive feedback? Could be by invitation?


RT @lizdudley: #ukedchat just means that we shouldbe inspection ready all the time, keep on top ofpaperwork & teach like we do all the time, brilliantly

20:13 MissBex_M

RT @MrTomtheTeacher: #ukedchat A thought; couldOFSTED drop in a few times a year, rather than onehigh pressure week? Would get better picture.#randomsampling

20:13:09 TheHeadsOffice @CanonsOPP I'm agreeing! #ukedchat

20:13:17 MissBex_M RT @SirWilshaw: So what if we do a no-notice

inspection and half the staff are out on residential or

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the SLT is not there? #ukedchat


RT @rpwillan: Actually found ofsted a pleasantexperience. Was like a performance managementlesson with loads of good feedback #ukedchat

20:13:21 DrDav

@nickotkdIV Would they be allowed out? Withincrease in academies there is no incentive to share.#ukedchat

20:13:21 DidgeH@ukedchat @theheadsoffice Anything less thanoutstanding is seen as a failure #ukedchat


@sazzled81 I was under the impression that youcould only get feedback from #ofsted if you asked forit #ukedchat Is this correct?

20:13:37 mrpeel

@TeachingTricks #ukedchat how long before

advisory sessions become compulsory re-education?

20:13:39 oldandrewuk

The existence of OFSTED has created a systemwhere the first thought of SMT is "what wouldOFSTED want?" #ukedchat

20:13:42 Monty_Math#ukedchat for me the problem with ofsted is not thehow, but the why - what good does grading do?

20:13:43 davidhunter

#ukedchat interesting how Finnish system dumped extinspection inn favour of increasing professionalismand teacher status.look at them now

20:13:49 nickotkdIV

Had feedback once following observation of lesson-had to ask for it. Needs to be greater communicationrather then them and us #ukedchat

20:13:49 mattharding007

@TheHeadsOffice I'd love it to be the LAs whoinspect and support schools with no Ofsted beyondthat. #ukedchat

20:13:51 lizdudley@syded06 or all disciplines, what works for Biology isvery different for physics for example #ukedchat

20:13:55 MrWaldram

"So what if we do a no-notice inspection and half thestaff are out on residential or the SLT is not there?#ukedchat" Any ideas?

20:14:04 KempsterD

RT @TheHeadsOffice @KempsterD How manyschools have won appeals? Anyone know?#ukedchat > Plenty of heads I know have challengedand won.

20:14:08 ethinking

#ukedchat @mrpeel they are not suits - they arepeople - trying to fulfil a role in ensuring standards inschools are high

20:14:16 talktofile @TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat reports tick political

accountability and parental information, but my reports

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often underwhelming

20:14:18 syded06@lizdudley and they continue to change the criteria#ukedchat

20:14:23 mrpeel

@oldandrewuk #ukedchat too true and such a

shame. Learning is being driven by OFSTED friendlyideas, not by professional judgement

20:14:33 CanonsOPP

@mrpeel @michelledhillon I use a similar analogy.Ofsted as food critics and teachers as chefs.#ukedchat

20:14:35 B_Sharpie@Blenkaz Isn't that what ASTs do? I agree though!#ukedchat


#ukedchat OFSTED just add to the levels ofbureaucracy, the activities that don't benefit kids at all.

It feels like surveillance.

20:14:39 ethinking#ukedchat @Blenkaz that's called AST programme -still exists I think

20:14:47 lizdudley@syded06 yep, nothing like continuously moving thegoalposts! #ukedchat

20:14:50 urban_teacher

Ofsted should seen as the oil that helps the engine ofa school and not oil that creates unnecessarycomplications. #ukedchat


@mrpeel All schools are completely different, so how

can they all be judged on same stringent criteria? Notone size fits all #ukedchat


@mattharding007 @TheHeadsOffice I'd love it to bethe LAs who inspect and support schools with noOfsted beyond that. #ukedchat>me too!

20:15:03 Mad_teach #ukedchat @sirwilshaw ud c real school life!

20:15:05 CanonsOPP@TheHeadsOffice I like agreement. I don't oftengenerate it. Hence confused. #ukedchat

20:15:18 tmeeky

My 8 year old says Ofsted should be less intrstd intest results and more interstd teaching and children.#ukedchat

20:15:24 talktofile

@TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat can reports summarise3 years of school work and depth of work in 3 or 4pages...no depth of good or bad

20:15:25 B_Sharpie@oldandrewuk I agree and that can take over..#ukedchat


Why not have teams of crack teachers who go aroundwith orated demonstrating or team teachingoutstanding lessons. #ukedchat

20:15:32 TheHeadsOffice @TeachingTricks #ukedchat how do you make

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feedback not seen as a judgement?

20:15:34 sazzled81

@GeographyCarrie Think it is, but then if we arelooking at reflective practice then surely feedback isvital? #ukedchat

20:15:35 nickotkdIV

@MrTomtheTeacher The one we had lead 3 staffmeetings and feedback about obs in great detail! veryconstructive and hands on #ukedchat

20:15:39 ethinking#ukedchat @KempsterD where's your evidence forthat?

20:15:40 Blenkaz@GeographyCarrie @sazzled81 #ukedchat gave theoption to go and get individual feedback

20:15:46 lizdudley

RT @oldandrewuk: The existence of OFSTED hascreated a system where the first thought of SMT is

"what would OFSTED want?" #ukedchat

20:15:49 thought_weavers#ukedchat ofsted talk bout personalised learning, butwhat bout personalised inspections?


#ukedchat Teachers end up doing things like writing"verbal feedback" in books after talking to kids abouttheir work. Pointless.

20:15:50 weemooseus

RT @syded06: How To Fail A Test: Students GiveHilariously Incorrect Answers (PHOTOS)http://t.co/DA4KO5ya via @zite #edchat #ukedchat

20:15:50 CanonsOPP @oldandrewuk Don't disagree with that. But onlyschool leaders can change that. #ukedchat

20:15:56 Langnut

RT @oldandrewuk: The existence of OFSTED hascreated a system where the first thought of SMT is"what would OFSTED want?" #ukedchat agreed!

20:16:04 MikeCraven5

@oldandrewuk #ukedchat Absolutely agree. Myprevious school had a head who, because we were a#1 (achieved 2007), just got stressed...

20:16:07 LiteracyWoman

#ukedchat It's the bits before and after Ofsted that arethe most beneficial - school's entire direction canchange for the better

20:16:14 mrpeel

@urban_teacher #ukedchat agree, but the currentattitude of OFSTED leaders prevents this - languageof confrontation.


@GeographyCarrie If they are in your room for morethan 20mins they should give you feedback#ukedchat


@CanonsOPP #ukedchat, if SIPs were good ideabadly implemented then surely there must be a way of

making this approach work?

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20:16:25 davidhunter#ukedchat this could also be a desirable careerprogression for some teachers

20:16:35 syded06Perhaps Ofsted isn't the problem. Are issues createdby Leadership allowing it to be a driver? #ukedchat

20:16:40 hgaldinoshea

@oldandrewuk: The existence of OFSTED hascreated a system where the first thought of SMT is"what would OFSTED want?" #ukedchat Yep.


@sazzled81 Couldn't agree more. Inspections shoulddef include far more feedback and opportunity forteacher reflection #ukedchat

20:16:48 MrWaldram @tmeeky That kid's got it on the money :-) #ukedchat

20:16:51 smurfatik

RT @syded06: Perhaps Ofsted isn't the problem. Areissues created by Leadership allowing it to be a

driver? #ukedchat

20:16:52 MikeCraven5@oldandrewuk #ukedchat ... about Ofsted, this madestaff stressed and damaged the atmosphere.

20:17:02 JOHNSAYERS

#ukedchat Ofsted have given me honestfeedback/comments that help compared to many inhouse where no feedback given in/out silenceapproach

20:17:13 tmeeky

SHld teachers be able to evaluate theeffectiveness/abilities of Ofsted inspectors? That'd beinteresting, no? #ukedchat


#ukedchat Teachers need to be able to set their ownpriorities, not have them set according to what someoverpaid SMT thinks OFSTED want.

20:17:14 hgaldinoshea

RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat OFSTED just add tothe levels of bureaucracy, the activities that don'tbenefit kids at all. It feels like surveillance.

20:17:16 ethinking

#ukedchat @KempsterD let me let you into a secret -its not about schools it's about ensuring kids get agood deal

20:17:26 mrpeel

#ukedchat the obsession with grading leads to oversubjectivity from both ends - remove and developdialogue and formative comment

20:17:47 TheHeadsOffice @CanonsOPP :) :) :) #ukedchat

20:17:47 Mad_teach#ukedchat an 8 yr old with more sense than ofsted!Love it!

20:17:47 tmeeky @oldandrewuk totally agree #ukedchat

20:17:48 MichelleDhillon@canonsopp @mrpeel Would Ofsted be like JohnTorode or Gregg Wallace? #ukedchat

20:17:48 CanonsOPP @oldandrewuk And now back to disagreeing with you.

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Making the ephemeral concrete can be spot on forkids with short memories. #ukedchat

20:17:51 Kezmerrelda

#ukedchat I don't like the thought of ofsted just turningup as I want to be teaching a great lesson. Can't be

whizzy all the time

20:17:54 GeekPeter

#ukedchat OFSTED should be same as progresscheck for students. Say well done if doing it right,show how to improve if needs improving.

20:18:05 KempsterD

RT @ethinking #ukedchat @KempsterD where's yourevidence for that? > Having worked with schools forhundreds of years.. ;-)

20:18:09 MrWaldram

@theheadsoffice by not giving a judgement... justfocus on areas that you saw in the classroom.

#ukedchat

20:18:11 mrpeel

@ethinking #ukedchat true, but both teachers andOFSTED want this - why is there such a sense ofthem and us?

20:18:11 ukedchat

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20:18:14 Langnut

@CanonsOPP @mrpeel @michelledhillon differenceis critics can't close a restaurant if the customers stillkeep coming! #ukedchat

20:18:15 JamesTheo

#ukedchat I agree with @PhilBeadle when hequestions why our regulatory body are actually settingthe agenda. What other industry does that?

20:18:19 sazzled81@ethinking @Blenkaz Chances are ASTs won't existthis time next year unfortunately #ukedchat


@syded06 That's part of it + the consultancy culturethat has built up to teach us how to do what Ofstedwant #ukedchat


#ukedchat I do believe in accountability butbureaucracy is not the way to achieve it, & that's whatOFSTED is.

20:18:36 Monty_Math

@TheHeadsOffice @geographycarrie #ukedchat haveheard from a few teachers of inspectors staying forexactly 19 minutes :)

20:18:38 mrpeel@Langnut #ukedchat they can for all sorts ofreasons...

20:18:44 CanonsOPP

@ePaceonline Not if just using the same old gravytrain ex-Heads that populated NCSL. Needs to be

current heads. #ukedchat

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20:18:45 B_Sharpie

RT @syded06: Perhaps Ofsted isn't the problem. Areissues created by Leadership allowing it to be adriver? #ukedchat


RT @ePaceonline: @CanonsOPP #ukedchat, if SIPs

were good idea badly implemented then surely theremust be a way of making this approach work?

20:18:48 Blenkaz

@TheHeadsOffice @teachingtricks #ukedchat generaland to all staff clear points for improvements alongwith key strengths.....

20:18:56 syded06@digitaldaisies agreed. I wonder if anyone hasworked out if that benefits students? #ukedchat


RT @syded06: Perhaps Ofsted isn't the problem. Areissues created by Leadership allowing it to be a

driver? #ukedchat >Discuss!

20:19:05 KempsterD@LiteracyWoman #ukedchat and for the worse (moreoften than not)

20:19:13 TeachingTricks

@TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat feedback to focus onpositives and then points to improve, gradings notgiven - inspect as advisory procedure.

20:19:15 Blenkaz@TheHeadsOffice @teachingtricks #ukedchat hard to

judge on 25 min snapshot of one teachers lesson?

20:19:16 reflectivemaths

RT @TeachingTricks: #ukedchat what about advisoryinspections, ones without formal judgements butsupport given & constructive feedback? Could be byinvitation?

20:19:20 ethinking#ukedchat @davidhunter yes - look at them - asystem which should be viewed in its cultural context

20:19:25 CanonsOPP@syded06 Yes. But it has been hard to be brave. Themedia aren't helping at the moment either. #ukedchat

20:19:36 sazzled81

@GeographyCarrie Absolutely, also enables teacherop to justify decisions made "off plan" and to talkabout next steps #ukedchat

20:19:41 mrpeel

@TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat a good point -leadership being "relentless" in pursuit of excellence isoften a cover for quasi-bullying.

20:19:42 nickotkdIV

RT @sazzled81: @ethinking @Blenkaz Chances areASTs won't exist this time next year unfortunately#ukedchat

20:19:45 lizdudley

#ukedchat perhaps as teachers we should beobserved more often? I'm always happy for feedback,how else will we improve! Easy to get stuck

20:19:51 MikeCraven5 #ukedchat Ofsted , no matter what govt says, restricts

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@ethinking #ukedchat The system created thepeople. Managers are selected for looking like they'dplease OFSTED, i.e. they can't teach.

20:20:07 Blenkaz

RT @JOHNSAYERS: #ukedchat Ofsted have givenme honest feedback/comments that help compared tomany in house where no feedback given in/out silenceapproach

20:20:08 Langnut

@syded06 I wouldn't blame leadership entirely.Ofsted hands down edicts that smt have no option butto follow and no say in #ukedchat

20:20:27 Blenkaz

RT @GeekPeter: #ukedchat OFSTED should besame as progress check for students. Say well done if

doing it right, show how to improve if needs improving.

20:20:29 TaniaBloor

RT @davidhunter: #ukedchat interesting how Finnishsystem dumped ext inspection inn favour of increasingprofessionalism and teacher status.look at them now

20:20:38 ethinking

#ukedchat @oldandrewuk would HM govt waste allthe money if they didn't perceive that we needsurveilling?

20:20:42 CanonsOPP@MichelleDhillon @mrpeel That's gotta be worth afollow!!!! Like neither. Like a food critic. #ukedchat

20:20:49 MikeCraven5#ukedchat @oldandrewuk agreed again. Must becareful, this could end up a habit.

20:20:52 digitaldaisies@syded06 someone somewhere will have collected arange of data which proves that it does #ukedchat

20:20:56 ePaceonline#ukedchat Should Ofsted be a friendly mentor or astern judge?

20:21 MrWaldram

@sirwilshaw you say that T&L is based on more thanyou see in the lesson, but if someone has a badlesson, do you overlook it? #ukedchat

20:21:01 OlympicICT

#ukedchat it's all about the data. Can't be anoutstanding school without good data...but is that themost important thing...results?

20:21:03 Mad_teach

#ukedchat we all came into teaching for the kids,ofsted don't seem interested in them, just in figuresand percentages.

20:21:07 nickotkdIVRT @ePaceonline: #ukedchat Should Ofsted be afriendly mentor or a stern judge?


RT @tmeeky: My 8 year old says Ofsted should beless intrstd in test results and more interstd teaching

and children. #ukedchat

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20:21:12 tombennett71

RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Teachers end up doingthings like writing "verbal feedback" in books aftertalking to kids about their work. Pointless.

20:21:14 ethinking

RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Teachers end up doing

things like writing "verbal feedback" in books aftertalking to kids about their work. Pointless.

20:21:17 smurfatik

am just lurking tonight but want to say that working inan Ofsted free environment is a lot less stressful#ukedchat

20:21:18 Keith_Burt

RT @davidhunter: #ukedchat interesting how Finnishsystem dumped ext inspection inn favour of increasingprofessionalism and teacher status.look at them now

20:21:23 syded06

@CanonsOPP @Langnut I completely agree it is not

the fault of leaders. The Ofsted rating meanseverything at the moment #ukedchat


RT @ethinking: #ukedchat @oldandrewuk would HMgovt waste all the money if they didn't perceive that weneed surveilling?

20:21:29 joanne_rich

#ukedchat @MrWaldram Happened to us inspectionbefore last - KS4 & 5 at residential camp or activitydays -they came anyway and visited camp


@Orlama agreed.I think of it like inter schl tchercollaboration.target need and raise standards overcourse of year/indefinitely #ukedchat


@super_sixfive #ukedchat "Leadership" my arse. It ismicro-management and I don't think the topcompanies do run things that way.


@nickotkdIV @sazzled81 @ethinking @Blenkaz I dobelieve the chances are extremely strong - haven'tDfE abolished that pay scale? #ukedchat

20:21:42 sazzled81

@mrpeel @ethinking Often wonder if it's becauseinspectors seem to lock themselves away in office, noreal discussion with staff #ukedchat

20:21:43 mrpeel

@ePaceonline #ukedchat take out the adjectives andI'd say judge - the mentoring should be within theschool environment

20:21:46 JamesTheo

"@oldandrewuk OFSTED has created system wherefirst thought of SMT is "what would OFSTED want?"#ukedchat" Rather than "what do kids need?"

20:21:48 talktofile

RT @lizdudley: #ukedchat perhaps as teachers weshould be observed more often? I'm always happy for

feedback, how else will we improve! Easy to get stuck

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20:21:52 CanonsOPP

@Langnut @mrpeel @michelledhillon Not sure Ofstedalone can close a school. Lots of follow up whereneeded #ukedchat

20:21:55 DidgeH

RT @mrpeel: #ukedchat the obsession with grading

leads to over subjectivity from both ends - remove anddevelop dialogue and formative comment

20:21:57 EmSnaps

RT @nickotkdIV: #ukedchat why not have realisticcurrent outstanding teachers visit schools to obs andoffer general feedback to schools?

20:22:01 Langnut

Which teachers do Ofsted consult about e.g. Newcriteria? Or do they act like any other gvt dept makingup new rules? #ukedchat

20:22:04 KempsterD

@ethinking #ukedchat Agree but Ofsted doesn't really

focus on learning and the expnce of the child. Itfocuses on the political imperative

20:22:14 Kezmerrelda@ePaceonline #ukedchat definitely friendly andhelpful unless really serious concerns I guess

20:22:15 Askparentsfirst

'Good'=above nat average, but satisfactory becoming'requires imrovement', so will all schs have to beabove average? #ukedchat

20:22:16 MrWaldram

#ukedchat in the same way that we cant decide a ch'swriting ability on one SATs paper, can Ofsted decideours on one lesson?


@OlympicICT How do we make sure our childrengethe best if we don't have checks & balances?#ukedchat

20:22:32 Educationchat

The biggest problem with Ofsted is that it forcesleaders to do things "to tick the Ofsted box" ratherthan for the children. #ukedchat

20:22:42 traceyab1

#ukedchat just had a fab ofsted inspection team - putus at ease and got the best from everyone in doing so!Made it much nicer process.


@ePaceonline Depends what is needed. It's not aneither/or question, is it? Should be a professional &respectful dialogue though #ukedchat

20:22:52 syded06

@KempsterD Is the moral imperative therefore toignore Ofsted if it doesn't benefit the students?#ukedchat

20:22:59 eylanezekiel

#ukedchat - If Ofsted were to become more likeTripAdvisor - with school view, expert and user ratingsand reviews, would that be better?

20:23:05 GeographyCarrie @Askparentsfirst and surely not everyone can be

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'above average' for average to exist?! #ukedchat


RT @thought_weavers: #ukedchat ofsted talk boutpersonalised learning, but what bout personalisedinspections?

20:23:17 tmeeky

8 yr old says Teachers +adults feel pressured thatthey have to b ready for Ofsted coming 'stead ofdoing wot they think's right #ukedchat

20:23:28 sazzled81

@ePaceonline Think it depends on situation,sometimes not everyone takes on board what afriendly mentor says?? #ukedchat


I hate the phrase "to tick the Ofsted box" and willactively try to avoid doing things for simply thisreason. #ukedchat


RT @Mad_teach: #ukedchat we all came intoteaching for the kids, ofsted don't seem interested inthem, just in figures and percentages.

20:23:38 Monty_Math

@Langnut #ukedchat I do think tho that teachers areguilty of going ofsted rumour crazy - trying to includethings they THINK ofsted want

20:23:42 nickotkdIV

#ukedchat perhaps as teachers we should beobserved more often? I'm always happy for feedback,how else will we improve! Easy to get stuck

20:23:46 TheHeadsOffice @sazzled81 Should be changing #ukedchat

20:23:48 anhalf@ethinking #ukedchat i am an ast, but la notcontinuing funding :-( missed a trick or two

20:24:05 andywhiteway Traffic on #ukedchat seems slow for me tonight


RT @traceyab1: #ukedchat just had a fab ofstedinspection team - put us at ease and got the best fromeveryone in doing so! Made it much nicer process.


@TheHeadsOffice I don't think many would argue wedon't need checks/balances, but it's the type and wayit is done that is crucial #ukedchat

20:24:23 MichelleDhillon@canonsopp @mrpeel :))) always seem to veer offinto slightly daft discussions during #ukedchat

20:24:26 OlympicICT

@TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat.agreed but is punishingschools and league tables the best way? Schoolsshouldn't be in competition.

20:24:32 KempsterD

@lizdudley #ukedchat Observation is a good thingdone in an appropriate way. When observed givenconstructive feedback (unlike Ofsted)

20:24:39 CanonsOPP @syded06 @langnut But the grade is a label attached

to the outcomes. It must not become a label attached

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to the processes. #ukedchat

20:24:45 anhalf@eylanezekiel #ukedchat is that what the parent viewis meant to be for?


Headteachers need to stand up to inspectors more.

We know our school far better than someone who's inthere for only 48 hours. #ukedchat

20:24:56 oldandrewuk@PenPendragon Absolutely. It's creating paper trails.#ukedchat

20:24:57 talktofile

#ukedchat I like that OfSTED forces focus on planningand mutual support of each other...sometimes easy tolose sight of this in daily grind

20:25:02 andywhiteway

RT @JamesTheo: "@oldandrewuk OFSTED hascreated system where first thought of SMT is "what

would OFSTED want?" #ukedchat" Rather than "whatdo kids need?"

20:25:03 anhalf

RT @thought_weavers: #ukedchat ofsted talk boutpersonalised learning, but what bout personalisedinspections?

20:25:13 thought_weavers

@nickotkdIV #ukedchat totally agree, I really valuefeedback from fellow professionals! I ask to beobserved!

20:25:14 Blenkaz@nickotkdIV totally agree, recently finished a scitt andmade most progress following obs! #ukedchat

20:25:21 raisechildrens

#ukedchat schools should be excellent at all times andthis shouldn't be changed thru the stress of impendingOfsted visits!

20:25:27 nickotkdIV

#ukedchat if you have a SMT that stives forimprovement they do the job of OFSTED all the time!(just in a nicer and more understanding way)

20:25:27 traceyab1

@KempsterD #ukedchat - just finished ofsted today-ours focused very much on the child but we had thedata to prove what we are doing works


@GeographyCarrie Exactly - it's a mathematicalnonsense, so will descriptors be re-written to reflectthe change? #UKedchat

20:25:38 anhalf@Monty_Math pressure from la more than teachers#ukedchat

20:25:51 CanonsOPP

@Educationchat It doesn't force leaders. Sometimes itappears that way, but strong leadership has to be boldin resisting that. #ukedchat

20:25:52 syded06 @CanonsOPP @langnut actually if I hear the phrase

'how do you know' one more time I might regret my

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actions #ukedchat

20:25:58 raisechildrens#ukedchat children should set the Ofsted criteria asthey know how they want the school to be!

20:26:02 eylanezekiel

@anhalf current parent view is badly conceived - and

poorly implemented - but it is workable - with schoolssupporting it #ukedchat

20:26:03 mrpeel

#ukedchat always happy 2b observed and toobserve, but the outcome must be formative anddialogic - not didactic


@super_sixfive @ethinking #ukedchat Since when?Have you seen the average member of SMT teach?Just hopeless.

20:26:03 Mad_teach

#ukedchat @Askparentsfirst bit then that will become

the new average! Basically, we can't win!


@anhalf @eylanezekiel No - Parent View is forparents to say how good the school is. Or to moanabout it. #ukedchat #butitwonttriggerofsted

20:26:07 sciencetchr21@lizdudley I think extra paperwork reduces time tothink, create and be inspired #ukedchat

20:26:10 Blenkaz

@thought_weavers: @nickotkdIV #ukedchat totallyagree, I really value feedback from fellowprofessionals! I ask to be observed! snap!!!

20:26:11 anhalf

RT @nickotkdIV #ukedchat perhaps as teachers weshould be observed more often? I'm always happy forfeedback, how else will we improve!

20:26:19 KempsterD

@Langnut @syded06 #ukedchat I disagree James.Just cos Ofsted says it, doesn't mean you have tofollow what they say. #weakleadership

20:26:25 joanne_rich@cherrylkd @mrwaldram #ukedchat We were lastweek & had been told they'd look at obs over time 1/2

20:26:31 sciencetchr21


20:26:38 AmyG2191

RT @JamesTheo: "@oldandrewuk OFSTED hascreated system where first thought of SMT is "whatwould OFSTED want?" #ukedchat" Rather than "whatdo kids need?"

20:26:41 talktofile

RT @TheHeadsOffice: @OlympicICT How do wemake sure our children gethe best if we don't havechecks & balances? #ukedchat

20:26:45 ethinking RT @traceyab1: @KempsterD #ukedchat - just

finished ofsted today -ours focused very much on the

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child but we had the data to prove what we are doingworks

20:26:49 MichelleDhillon@SuzanneCulshaw @canonsopp @mrpeel Nowthat's worth a follow! :-) #ukedchat

20:26:50 CanonsOPP

@MichelleDhillon @mrpeel That's a good thing. Justhave to remember it when the kids do the same thingin my lessons. #ukedchat

20:26:54 Educationchat@CanonsOPP Have yet to see many leaders strongenough to go against Ofsted advice.... #ukedchat




#ukedchat do any measures of success trump the

'outstanding' rating? how can we communicate theseto parents?

20:26:58 cherrylkd

@TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat there has to be someaccountability. We have the future generation in ourhands. Every profession is accountable

20:27:08 anhalf

RT @GeekPeter: #ukedchat OFSTED should besame as progress check for students. Say well done ifdoing it right, show how to improve if needs improving.


@MrTomtheTeacher #ukedchat, agreed room forboth, but perception is of judgement rather than help.We don't judge pupils who struggle!


@cherrylkd @mrwaldram #ukedchat 1 teacherconsistently outstanding went to pieces & they insistedon grading her satisfactory

20:27:17 Mad_teach

RT @Educationchat: I hate the phrase "to tick theOfsted box" and will actively try to avoid doing thingsfor simply this reason. #ukedchat

20:27:19 nickotkdIV

RT @cherrylkd: @TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat therehas to be some accountability. We have the futuregeneration in our hands. Every profession isaccountable


@Mad_teach So is the Ofsted framework designed toensure an ever-replenishing supply of failing schools?#ukedchat


@Educationchat all this yr staff meetings have beenabout what we need for ofsted as we due after 41/2yrs#ukedchat

20:27:31 shaun_allison RT @cherrylkd: @TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat there

has to be some accountability. We have the future

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generation in our hands. Every profession isaccountable

20:27:36 syded06

@mrpeel at risk of dropping the obvious cliche - arewe not observed by 30 students every lesson and they

let you know! #ukedchat


@anhalf @nickotkdiv #ukedchat if you were observedmore often would this make you more/less relaxed?Maybe diff people feel diff ways...?

20:27:41 talktofile

RT @sciencetchr21: @lizdudley I think extrapaperwork reduces time to think, create and beinspired #ukedchat

20:27:48 talktofile

RT @anhalf: RT @nickotkdIV #ukedchat perhaps asteachers we should be observed more often? I'm

always happy for feedback, how else will we improve!

20:27:52 B_Sharpie

@Blenkaz Yes, should it be developmental rather thanjudgemental? At some point we need accountability.#ukedchat

20:27:52 MrWaldram@joanne_rich @cherrylkd Well, that's good then...they need to know we're human. #ukedchat

20:27:53 SingleStepsBlog

@thought_weavers @nickotkdIV #ukedchat Agree too- set up 'observation practices' that were jointly ownedand focused on formative dialogue




If we agree that checks & balances are needed howshould Ofsted develop to get the right system inplace? #ukedchat

20:27:57 mrpeel

@cherrylkd #ukedchat utterly agree, as with any job,but is the manner in which it happens useful? Woulda formative approach help?

20:28 rlewin75

RT @MrTomtheTeacher: #ukedchat A thought; couldOFSTED drop in a few times a year, rather than onehigh pressure week? Would get better picture.#randomsampling

20:28:02 anhalf@eylanezekiel agreed, needs to safeguard aginst'trouble makers' #ukedchat

20:28:06 SheliBB

@Blenkaz @thought_weavers @nickotkdIV You couldalways ask the children to make observations too :)#ukedchat


@mrpeel agree, everyday tchg is different from 'red

carpet' but just as effective #ukedchat

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20:28:21 CanonsOPP

@syded06 @langnut Too much emphasis on provingas you go along can stifle the joy of the unplannedimprovement #ukedchat

20:28:26 tmeeky

@raisechildrens 8 yr old likes tht :o) Criteria include:

listen to kids, seek to help the school ..Inspec shld bchance 2 shine #ukedchat


#ukedchat Does "Outstanding" category annoyothers? Not everyone can be outstanding bydefinition. "Excellent" has no limits on it though.

20:28:33 syded06

@raisechildrens @anhalf @nickotkdiv have to sayfrom my PE background you feel more comfortable asyour lessons are always on show #ukedchat

20:28:33 mr_chadwick

@ethinking Last inspection (3yrs ago) was a check on

our SEF and improvement priorities - will next one willhave the same agenda? #ukedchat

20:28:34 sazzled81 @TheHeadsOffice That's good news! #ukedchat

20:28:35 mikallaane

#ukedchat my Ofsted parental view (150/450 high rtnr8) stated 95% Agree/Stongly Agree with schooloutcomes BUT Ofsted didnt! N2I given

20:28:39 mrpeel

@SheliBB #ukedchat we have used studetnobservers in the past -they're rathe rgood actually, ifused well

20:28:50 saidthemac

I have to say on a positive note, the recent "Wide andwider still" document on Music from Ofsted actuallymakes a lot of sense #ukedchat

20:28:59 CanonsOPP@oldandrewuk @super_sixfive @ethinking I hope thatmakes me above average SLT. #ukedchat

20:29:02 MrWaldram@syded06 @CanonsOPP @Langnut Haha, myfavourite question to ask the kids #ukedchat

20:29:02 ethinking

#ukedchat I suggest that schools who have stuff tohide or don't know their data properly find it stressful -i

20:29:11 rlewin75@oldandrewuk in some schools in certain contexts-YES! #ukedchat

20:29:12 wallythebus@TheHeadsOffice It absolutely needs to be formativeand not merely ranking and rating #ukedchat



20:29:22 syded06 @CanonsOPP @langnut I can feel the #soloarmy +

independent learning crew shifting uncomfortably

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#ukedchat

20:29:23 cherrylkd

@Educationchat #ukedchat there is room to pleaseOfsted and help ch learn. Ofsted should be lessthreatening and more supportive.

20:29:24 saidthemac

Problem is that most inspectors don't know how toobserve music or what musical progression looks andsounds like #ukedchat

20:29:35 ethinking

RT @Educationchat: @CanonsOPP Have yet to seemany leaders strong enough to go against Ofstedadvice.... #ukedchat


#ukedchat do you think Ofsted stresses out thechildren as much as the teachers?#worththinkingabout

20:29:53 KempsterD

@syded06 #ukedchat You have to look at the biggerpicture. What is the best thing for your school? Look atwhat Ofsted say though as part

20:29:56 nickotkdIV@SheliBB @Blenkaz @thought_weavers excellentthought!! :-) #ukedchat

20:29:58 CanonsOPP@Educationchat Maybe. But they are there. And theyare getting stronger. We need them. #ukedchat

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@ethinking #ukedchat Are you really doubting thecapacity of governments to create unnecessarybureaucracies?

20:30:05 MrG_ICT

Many local heads seem to want robotic teachingfollowing their take on OFSTED criteria. Notencouraging innovation and creativity. #ukedchat

20:30:12 normal_for_jp

#ukedchat limited period to be an inspector, draw fromschools and then send them back to schools to ensurethe them and us dissipates

20:30:20 sazzled81

@MikeCraven5 @nickotkdIV @ethinking @BlenkazThink remaining few of us moved onto L scale, maynot even be called AST now?? #ukedchat

20:30:31 saidthemac Would you de-politicise education? #ukedchat


#ukedchat we were last week - was gruelling butbasically fair - totally different to 3 yrs ago though &focus almost entirely on observing

20:30:34 normal_for_jp RT @MrTomtheTeacher: #ukedchat Does

"Outstanding" category annoy others? Not everyone

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can be outstanding by definition. "Excellent" has nolimits on it though.


RT @ethinking: #ukedchat I suggest that schools whohave stuff to hide or don't know their data properly find

it stressful - i

20:30:40 mrpeel@normal_for_jp #ukedchat i like that idea - almostlike jury service

20:30:40 cherrylkd

#ukedchat @joanne_rich @mrwaldram thats naughty!They are meant to look at the observations and notmake snap judgements


@SheliBB @Blenkaz @thought_weavers@nickotkdIV #ukedchat Completely agree w/ childrenbeing observers-really interesting feedback from this

20:30:46 Bectully

#ukedchat Lessons should offer constant variety.Some more student led, some more teacher led.OFSTED approach negates this. #frustrating

20:30:46 ethinking

#ukedchat @davidhunter no need - that's whatparents want to know: have been weighed andmeasured? Were you found wanting?

20:30:48 nickotkdIV

RT @cherrylkd @Educationchat #ukedchat there isroom to please Ofsted and help ch learn Ofstedshould be less threatening + more supportive


@Askparentsfirst Descriptors have been re-writtenalready. You should be able to see them here:http://t.co/q63PJ3FU #ukedchat

20:31:06 Mad_teach

#ukedchat @Askparentsfirst it seems that way. Somany schools bein down graded so that they can bforced academies. My opinion!

20:31:08 syded06

@KempsterD agreed - it appears strong leadership isvital to balance the needs of students with Ofstedcriteria #ukedchat

20:31:09 CanonsOPP

@TheHeadsOffice The system since 2005 isn't sobad. Intelligent accountability can work. Opening upmeetings to SLT also works. #ukedchat


Ofsted seems to be a very final judgement. Maybethere should be professional feedback given by fellowteachers all year? #ukedchat


@MrTomtheTeacher #ukedchat, indeed, imaginetreating 'failing pupils' in this way, grading and thenpublishing results, we just wouldn't.

20:31:21 mikeatedji

#ukedchat I like the emphasis in new framework on

anti-bullying, and atmosphere where ALL can thrive

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#ukedchat if Ofsted wasn't so scary but a helpfulfriendly approach, a way of moving forward surely thatwould be better for teachers & kids

20:31:31 MrWaldram @cherrylkd @joanne_rich VERY naughty! #ukedchat

20:31:42 cherrylkd@mrpeel #ukedchat Yes that would def help. At themoment we work in atmosphere of distrust


@raisechildrens: #ukedchat do you think Ofstedstresses out the children as much as the teachers?#worththinkingabout


RT"@ethinking #ukedchat Are you really doubting thecapacity of governments to create unnecessarybureaucracies?" never!

20:31:49 lizdudley

#ukedchat "only consider a provider to be outstanding

if they have outstanding teaching, learning andassessment"


#ukedchat ofsted scares SLT, who scare staff. On topof this, inspectors are often woefully inadequate forthe job.

20:32:17 Blenkaz

@SheliBB @thought_weavers @nickotkdiv good pointbut do children always know what they need?#devilsadvocate #ukedchat

20:32:23 sciencetchr21@lizdudley @sciencetchr21 you've made my day#ukedchat

20:32:25 starlemusique

RT @oldandrewuk: #ukedchat Teachers end up doingthings like writing "verbal feedback" in books aftertalking to kids about their work. Pointless.

20:32:26 SirWilshaw

Thinking about changing the gradings to a morerealistic: Impossible/you'll do/Crap and... OMG you'rereally crap! #ukedchat

20:32:27 normal_for_jp#ukedchat Draw from all teachers, no way to refuse.@mrpeel

20:32:40 CanonsOPP

@syded06 I think that this is the best reason ever for#soloarmy to get going. Almost zero noticeinspections need SOLO. #ukedchat

20:32:41 nickotkdIV

RT @SingleStepsBlog: @SheliBB @Blenkaz@thought_weavers @nickotkdIV #ukedchatCompletely agree w/ children being observers-reallyinteresting feedback from this

20:32:42 ICTwitzOfSTED play too close to political agenda, rather thanwhat is best for education #ukedchat

20:32:45 OlympicICT @TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat one easy way would be

2 stop changing the goal posts making it harder and

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harder to be good.

20:32:46 TheHeadsOfficeHave we any Ofsted inspectors with us here tonight?#ukedchat


#ukedchat How involved do learners of all ages feel in

the OFSTED process? Do/could teachers/childrengive inspectors feedback?

20:32:52 Orlama

RT @lizdudley: #ukedchat "only consider a provider tobe outstanding if they have outstanding teaching,learning and assessment"


RT @joanne_rich: #ukedchat we were last week - wasgruelling but basically fair - totally different to 3 yrs agothough & focus almost entirely on observing


@SingleStepsBlog @nickotkdiv #ukedchat agree, obs

should be an opportunity for prof, constructivedialogue.

20:33:13 ePaceonline#ukedchat In my experience people need help(constructive and supportive) not judgement.

20:33:14 mrpeel@normal_for_jp #ukedchat i really do think you havesolved it

20:33:18 syded06@CanonsOPP I don't believe it. That was my next line#ukedchat


@SirWilshaw I thought it was that already...

#ukedchat

20:33:25 nickotkdIV

RT @thought_weavers: @SingleStepsBlog@nickotkdiv #ukedchat agree, obs should be anopportunity for prof, constructive dialogue.

20:33:26 urban_teacherAre Ofsted mainly fault finders or empower warriors?#ukedchat


#ukedchat @cherrylkd @mrwaldram they'd agreedwith all our judgements when did paired obs but T & L

judgement based only on what they'd seen

20:33:41 Blenkaz

@TeachingTricks #ukedchat I use these throughoutlessons just still think better judgement could be madeafter full session?

20:33:42 Gwenelope

RT @infernaldepart: Why Twitter and Facebook couldbe Good instructional tools http://t.co/uyIICrXS#socialmedia #ukedchat

20:33:46 nickotkdIV@thought_weavers @SingleStepsBlog and sharedamongst staff team #ukedchat

20:33:47 ICTwitz

#ukedchat Has anyone ever come across an OfSTEDinspector on twitter. Are they allowed to have one and

own up?

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20:33:47 oldandrewuk@rlewin75 Obviously not universal, but it is prettynormal these days. #ukedchat


@juliethomson101 @sciencetchr21 I think this iscrazy, just have emergency cover work ready in case

you are ill #ukedchat

20:34 MrG_ICT

I know teachers who have planned five or six qualitylessons and keep them for OFSTED. Understandableas the stakes are so high. #ukedchat

20:34:06 CanonsOPP

It's not the Ofsted I have a problem with. It's themocksteds and insteds that are used to replicatethem. #ukedchat

20:34:09 lizdudley#ukedchat I think once we get to FE then the studentsviews should be as important as Ofsted!

20:34:09 TheHeadsOffice How can Ofsted be less threatening? #ukedchat

20:34:13 MrWaldram

@geographycarrie @Askparentsfirst apparently@sirwilshaw has his own judgements - take a look...#ukedchat

20:34:21 KempsterD

I knew many Ofsted inspectors (some of the lead insp)and many of them didn't know what good learninglooked like. I was so amazed #ukedchat

20:34:22 Gwenelope

RT @normal_for_jp: #ukedchat limited period to be aninspector, draw from schools and then send themback to schools to ensure the them and us dissipates

20:34:23 nickotkdIV

RT @TheHeadsOffice: @raisechildrens: #ukedchat doyou think Ofsted stresses out the children as much asthe teachers? #worththinkingabout

20:34:24 cherrylkd

@nickotkdIV #ukedchat peer observation andcoaching are the way forward. Conducted in positiveatmosphere with constructive feedback.

20:34:33 Mad_teach

RT @OlympicICT: @TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat oneeasy way would be 2 stop changing the goal postsmaking it harder and harder to be good.

20:34:36 normal_for_jp #ukedchat My work is done then ;) @mrpeel

20:34:48 SheliBB

@Blenkaz @thought_weavers @nickotkdiv No, butthey can tell you what/ how they liked learning andthat's the point isn't it? #ukedchat

20:34:49 KempsterD

RT @SirWilshaw: Thinking about changing thegradings to a more realistic: Impossible/you'll do/Crapand... OMG you're really crap! #ukedchat

20:34:50 mrpeel@cherrylkd #ukedchat reflective teachingcommunities - yes please

20:34:52 syded06 @KempsterD @@Askparentsfirst @TheHeadsOffice

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Are we agreed that we really need to remove the fearof being observed? #ukedchat

20:34:57 boondocksYEAH@TheHeadsOffice each inspector to carry a lovelypuppy #ukedchat

20:34:57 nickotkdIV @cherrylkd what we do #ukedchat

20:34:59 wetherberry2009

RT @infernaldepart: Flipping the Classroom:Teachers Turn Homework on its Headhttp://t.co/G3L5z7PT #ukedchat

20:35 TheHeadsOfficeRT @urban_teacher: Are Ofsted mainly fault findersor empower warriors? #ukedchat

20:35:02 B_Sharpie@Blenkaz Yes, a huge issue with its artificiality...#ukedchat


RT @SirWilshaw: Thinking about changing the

gradings to a more realistic: Impossible/you'll do/Crapand... OMG you're really crap! #ukedchat

20:35:09 bellaale@MichelleDhillon there is... (or should be) appraisalgoing on all-year-round #ukedchat

20:35:15 Mallrat_uk

@MrG_ICT we got outstanding in all categories inrecent OfSTED, inspectors definitely wanted creativityand independent. #ukedchat

20:35:19 GeekPeter

RT @nickotkdIV: #ukedchat if you have a SMT thatstives for improvement they do the job of OFSTED all

the time! (just in a nicer and more understanding way)


where is the evidence that Ofsted has done anythingto improve the standards in our schools?ooouuchhhh!!! #ukedchat


@Blenkaz #ukedchat no they don't always know,butthat's my judgement, 2 take advice I feel cudbenefit.Sum adults don't give useful f'back

20:35:23 Monty_Math

#ukedchat could we ask ofsted inspectors to comeand show us how it should be done? Sat withclipboard at the ready Mr Wilshaw!

20:35:31 oldandrewuk@super_sixfive @ethinking #ukedchat If you say so,but that's not how they got their jobs.

20:35:31 nickotkdIVRT @urban_teacher: Are Ofsted mainly fault findersor empower warriors? #ukedchat

20:35:39 joanne_rich#ukedchat @cherrylkd @nickotkdiv Totally agree -much more productive and supportive

20:35:46 Monty_Math

RT @ePaceonline: #ukedchat In my experiencepeople need help (constructive and supportive) not

judgement.

20:35:53 syded06 @Monty_Math now I really would love that to be an

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option #ukedchat

20:35:58 mrpeel#ukedchat is there a primary/secondary perceptionshift? just asking?

20:35:59 Gwenelope

Why does their only seem to be 1 version of

outstanding for lesson obs' criteria? Why do the goalposts move so frequently? #ukedchat

20:35:59 Mad_teach #ukedchat @ictwitz would u own up to it???

20:35:59 cherrylkd@mrpeel #ukedchat absolutely. Eases the stress ofOfsted when it comes which is a bonus

20:35:59 RWM_LearningLab

RT @JamesTheo: "@oldandrewuk OFSTED hascreated system where first thought of SMT is "whatwould OFSTED want?" #ukedchat" Rather than "whatdo kids need?"

20:36:01 stuc2011

RT @nickotkdIV: #ukedchat if you have a SMT thatstives for improvement they do the job of OFSTED allthe time! (just in a nicer and more understanding way)

20:36:03 Vickycarl


20:36:07 LiteracyWomanRT @boondocksYEAH: @TheHeadsOffice eachinspector to carry a lovely puppy #ukedchat


RT @nickotkdIV: RT @urban_teacher: Are Ofsted

mainly fault finders or empower warriors? #ukedchat


@Mr_Chas #ukedchat Similar but on a different scale.A lot of the time being a teacher is like being auditedevery day.

20:36:19 Clueless_Morgan

@Educationchat @Askparentsfirst #ukedchat ...andwho's probably on the ARK payroll! Mention no names(Sally Morgan, Ofsted & Ark!) Tut tut!


@nickotkdIV @thought_weavers #ukedchat yes - andOFSTED could just join process which already existsin the school -thereby personalising it

20:36:25 lizdudley#ukedchat I love the idea of drawing from outstandingteachers, like a jury system?

20:36:26 TheHeadsOffice@MrG_ICT Don't understand that! Children are thereall the time not just for Ofsted! #ukedchat


@MrG_ICT #ukedchat To paraphrse Martin Amis,OFSTED's like wearing white pants. Why not store upa one-off cracker if that's all they see?

20:36:38 ethinking RT @cherrylkd: @TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat therehas to be some accountability. We have the future

generation in our hands. Every profession is

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accountable

20:36:45 talktofile

RT @cherrylkd: @TheHeadsOffice #ukedchat therehas to be some accountability. We have the futuregeneration in our hands. Every profession is

accountable

20:37:03 dannishwright



@nickotkdIV #ukedchat oh definitely! A few yearsback my class told me I talk too much! I was livid-because they were RIGHT!


@KempsterD #ukedchat new framework says thefocus is going to shift to looking more at T and L and

aspects of school that raise achievement.

20:37:14 raff31Ofsted are Ofsted. Rags blowing in the wind.#ukedchat

20:37:19 Mad_teach

RT @Monty_Math: #ukedchat could we ask ofstedinspectors to come and show us how it should bedone? Sat with clipboard at the ready Mr Wilshaw!

20:37:19 StarLesson

RT @SirWilshaw: So what if we do a no-noticeinspection and half the staff are out on residential orthe SLT is not there? #ukedchat

20:37:25 Gwenelope

Learning walks and lesson observations (in house)should be done by all teachers, not just SMT. Surelygood prof' development? #ukedchat

20:37:25 GarethSurgey

RT @nickotkdIV: #ukedchat if you have a SMT thatstives for improvement they do the job of OFSTED allthe time! (just in a nicer and more understanding way)

20:37:26 CanonsOPP

Have no issues with in-school reviews, but for learningnot for Ofsted-compliance. There is no Ofsted-friendlyform of teaching. #ukedchat

20:37:29 MrWaldram @ictwitz see @sirwilshaw #ukedchat

20:37:38 super_sixfive

RT @thought_weavers: @nickotkdIV #ukedchat ohdefinitely! A few years back my class told me I talk toomuch! I was livid- because they were RIGHT!

20:37:45 nickotkdIV



@MrTomtheTeacher Because I believe #ofsted arelooking to ask pupils if what they've seen on the day isa 'usual' lesson #ukedchat

20:37:53 DidgeH RT @nickotkdIV: #ukedchat if you have a SMT that

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stives for improvement they do the job of OFSTED allthe time! (just in a nicer and more understanding way)

20:37:56 joanne_rich#ukedchat Asked by one of our SEN students of theinspectors last week - why do they look so cross?

20:38 sciencetchr21@MrG_ICT thanks 4 the tip (ofsted due oct!)#ukedchat

20:38 bellaale

RT @cherrylkd: @nickotkdIV #ukedchat peerobservation and coaching are the way forward.Conducted in positive atmosphere with constructivefeedback.

20:38:02 VickycarlI am confused that ofsted have archived everything,but given us nothing to use instead. #ukedchat

20:38:02 SwayGrantham

@Mallrat_uk seems to be that certain behaviours are

inspirational in outstanding schools and failures inmeasures schools! #ukedchat

20:38:06 Blenkaz@TheHeadsOffice needs to lose stigma surrounding,change from problem finders to solvers! #ukedchat

20:38:08 mrpeel

@Gwenelope #ukedchat I do learning walks as domany colleagues - not really seen the point yet -disappointed.

20:38:13 kalinski1970

@Educationchat completely agree re HT...I also thinkteachers should lead the inspector ..."ask what wouldu like to see?" #ukedchat

20:38:18 ethinking


20:38:22 Kezmerrelda#ukedchat being in fear of ofsted arriving4 the last fewmonths has made me v reflective of my practice.

20:38:24 SirWilshaw@ICTwitz I'm allowed to do anything I want!#ukedchat #heroic

20:38:25 ICTwitz

@Mad_teach If I was proud of it, yes. But wonder ifthey sign secrecy. Last inspec I spoke to didn't evensay where they're from #ukedchat

20:38:31 cherrylkd

@KempsterD @langnut @syded06 #ukedchatAgreed. If its not right for your school and children & ucan justify reasons, don't do it.

20:38:39 Gwenelope

@TheHeadsOffice @urban_teacher My nickname forOFSTED inspectors are 'Deatheaters', soul suckedout of me by the process. #ukedchat

20:38:39 tmeeky

Education, kids, learning;, people, life = too complexa dynamic to be judged by a tick sheet and a short

drop-in. #ukedchat

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20:38:41 talktofile

@MrG_ICT can these lessons not be reused, shared,improved at later date or more regularly...surely good?#ukedchat

20:38:48 sciencetchr21 @CanonsOPP agree, it adds to pressure #ukedchat


@Gwenelope #ukedchat So true. Odd that we spendall our time teaching & so rarely get to see our peersdo it!

20:38:58 oldandrewuk@super_sixfive @ethinking #ukedchat Well quite.SMT generally obstruct teaching and learning.

20:38:59 EllieERussell

RT @anhalf: RT @nickotkdIV #ukedchat perhaps asteachers we should be observed more often? I'malways happy for feedback, how else will we improve!

20:39 misscedge

RT @nickotkdIV: #ukedchat if you have a SMT that

stives for improvement they do the job of OFSTED allthe time! (just in a nicer and more understanding way)

20:39:02 KempsterD

RT @TheHeadsOffice How can Ofsted be lessthreatening? #ukedchat > They could be promoted asa support body rather than punitive.

20:39:20 nickotkdIV#ukedchat Ofsted are not to be scared of if you areteaching correctly!

20:39:23 syded06

@cherrylkd @KempsterD @langnut come to think of itI've been asked to model outstanding iPad lessons forOfsted!!! #ukedchat

20:39:25 Blenkaz@ICTwitz #ukedchat what isnt that the same thing?Strange eh?

20:39:37 TheHeadsOffice @Vickycarl Didn't schs ask for freedom? #ukedchat

20:39:41 rlewin75

@GeographyCarrie @mrtomtheteacher #ukedchatwhat if kid says 'usually much better- you seem tostress them out' ?

20:39:42 WarwickLanguage



#ukedchat though very much thinking along the linesof what evidence have I collected to show I know whatI am doing...

20:40:04 mrpeel

#ukedchat the punitive language being used in thepress by OFSTED leaders is the greatest cause ofdistrust - get rid of the fools

20:40:04 ePaceonline @wallythebus #ukedchat, agree totally

20:40:10 GeorgeEBlack RT @KempsterD: RT @TheHeadsOffice How can

Ofsted be less threatening? #ukedchat > They could

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be promoted as a support body rather than punitive.

20:40:13 LiteracyWoman#ukedchat Yr 10 should shadow Ofsted for workexperience

20:40:22 MrG_ICT

@mallrat_uk Agree that OFSTED enjoy creativity but

have experience of head wanting safe lesson thatticks boxes. #ukedchat

20:40:22 tmeeky

RT @nickotkdIV: #ukedchat Ofsted are not to bescared of if you are teaching correctly! > you meanteaching to certain critera

20:40:23 OrlamaEveryone participating assertive and proactive. Howdo we support those teachers who are not?#ukedchat

20:40:32 nickotkdIV #ukedchat "is it bad teachers that only fear OFSTED?"

20:40:43 ICTwitz @SirWilshaw LOL #ukedchat #love-spoofaccounts

20:40:47 Westylish

#ukedchat an Ofsted observation doesn't see what isreally going on. You have to up your game but are youcheating the students in doing so?



20:40:56 tmeekyRT @nickotkdIV: #ukedchat "is it bad teachers thatonly fear OFSTED?" > nah

20:41 bekblayton

Iif Ofsted became unannounced the nature of theinspections and their expectations would have to shift.More realistic, more human #ukedchat


@bellaale Agreed but not sure there is in some of theplaces I've visited. Needless panicking ensues wheninspection time beckons #ukedchat

20:41:06 mrpeel@nickotkdIV #ukedchat no -many do because allperformers have doubts and nightmares

20:41:09 KempsterDRT @boondocksYEAH: @TheHeadsOffice eachinspector to carry a lovely puppy #ukedchat

20:41:17 KempsterD

@syded06 @Askparentsfirst @TheHeadsOffice#ukedchat > it's not fear of being observed but of theempty 'judgement' left hanging in the air

20:41:17 nickotkdIV@tmeeky do you believe these criteria are wrong?#ukedchat


@GeographyCarrie To me, that's a hopelessly naivequestion considering what's at stake. What do theyexpect teachers to do? #ukedchat

20:41:48 SwayGrantham I saw a tweet re:SMT going to see wonderful teachingin a school instead of coming to scrutinise...needs to

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be the ofsted attitude #ukedchat

20:41:53 syded06

@nickotkdIV @CanonsOPP it is worth trying a SOLOlesson to see how it meets Ofsted criteria. Oh andstudents benefit. #ukedchat

20:42:05 Gallowsorguillo

RT @Clueless_Morgan: @Educationchat@Askparentsfirst #ukedchat ...and who's probably onthe ARK payroll! Mention no names (Sally Morgan,Ofsted & Ark!) Tut tut!


#ukedchat if only ofsted inspectors didn't say hmmmso much and gave u a bit of a clue when they areinterviewing you. It's just so scary!!

20:42:15 cherrylkd@syded06 @kempsterd @langnut #ukedchatExcellent! They'll like that.

20:42:16 Mr_P_Teach

#ukedchat We've just had Ofsted. They used our dataanalysis to confirm we had found the right things inaddition to our monitoring

20:42:20 aknill

@pcrossers @johnsayers right "crossers" young chaphave a look at #ukedchat on. Now until 9 pm or from 9#dlchat

20:42:27 MichaelaPorter2@Gwenelope at our school we all peer observe,including support staff, very useful #ukedchat



20:42:38 tmeeky@nickotkdIV > too rigid, stilted, un-natural , formulaic#ukedchat

20:42:40 GeorgeEBlack

#ukedchat to add another aspect to this discussion weget HMI (Ofsted in Scotland) and as we are aboarding school the Care Commission too..

20:42:41 ravingleftie

RT @oldandrewuk: The existence of OFSTED hascreated a system where the first thought of SMT is"what would OFSTED want?" #ukedchat


#ukedchat @nickotkdIV No,we have an amazingteacher, consistently outstanding, who went to piecesthrough nerves and graded satisfactory

20:42:50 Mr_P_Teach#ukedchat It confirms to staff that the SLT and theschool are on the right path.

20:42:50 JOHNSAYERS

Good think in my opinion is that Ofsted check teacherclass analysis by teacher and look through books forprogression #ukedchat FOCUS imp

20:42:53 davidhunter @ethinking wth admin heavy roles many Ts feel

handcuffed to take on PD and leadership

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capacity.expecting these traits is a catch22 #ukedchat

20:42:59 nwinton

@KempsterD @theheadsoffice @GeorgeEBlack Hasanyone suggested the Finnish model? Get rid ofOFSTED and watch your results go up! #ukedchat

20:43 TheHeadsOffice

RT @tmeeky: @nickotkdIV > too rigid, stilted, un-natural , formulaic #ukedchat > How should theychange?


RT @thought_weavers: @SingleStepsBlog@nickotkdiv #ukedchat agree, obs should be anopportunity for prof, constructive dialogue.


RT @Mad_teach: #ukedchat @Askparentsfirst itseems that way. So many schools bein down gradedso that they can b forced academies. My opinion!


@MichaelaPorter2 We suggested that, but it becameadditional obs for SLT and middle managers ofteachers instead :( #ukedchat

20:43:27 normal_for_jp#ukedchat Trip advisor style rate my inspectormaybe?

20:43:31 CanonsOPP

@syded06 @nickotkdiv It has to meet the criteria.Moving from multistructural to abstract thinking.Progress nailed on. #ukedchat #solo

20:43:51 GeorgeEBlack#ukedchat ... Care Commission is by far the morestressful, but also the most satisfying to get right.

20:43:58 GeographyCarrie @rlewin75 Haha... here's hoping! #ukedchat

20:44:01 Mad_teach#ukedchat re obs others, I was advised to film myselffor a whole day. Cringe worthy but v v useful!

20:44:05 ethinking

RT @Mr_P_Teach: #ukedchat We've just had Ofsted.They used our data analysis to confirm we had foundthe right things in addition to our monitoring

20:44:05 68ron

#ukedchat I was a bit disappointed with theafternoon's notice thing re OFSTED visits. Think itmight be the worst of both worlds.

20:44:10 ZoeAndrewsAST

@MrG_ICT surely that's also quite difficult to actuallypull off on day- need to showing progression related toprevious lesson? #ukedchat


@nickotkdiv Nope. Everyone does. Seen twoexcellent teachers terrified of inspection. Are ofstedthe new stormtroopers? #ukedchat

20:44:17 ethinkingRT @Mr_P_Teach: #ukedchat It confirms to staff thatthe SLT and the school are on the right path.

20:44:20 TheHeadsOffice RT @GeorgeEBlack: #ukedchat ... Care Commission

is by far the more stressful, but also the most

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satisfying to get right. >Interesting!

20:44:24 juliethomson101 #ukedchat why is satisfactory no longer good enough?

20:44:29 markbrumleyBrainstorm with virtual stickies! Give it a try.http://t.co/XMvZbKi9 #ukedchat #cpchat

20:44:32 GeographyCarrie@MrTomtheTeacher Cross fingers and toes, offerstudents bribes, pray....?! #ukedchat

20:44:34 syded06

@CanonsOPP @nickotkdiv yes a summer ofunderstanding and planning #solo lessons awaitsbecause the students will benefit #ukedchat

20:44:41 KempsterD

@ePaceonline #ukedchat But we know what thatmeans from Gove/Wilshaw's PoV. Didactic,knowledge transfer. Kids being taught to the test. ;-(


@bekblayton yes but would it? You can't be whizzy n

amazing all the time. Would they realise that? Somelesson ar building blocks #ukedchat

20:44:49 DigitalLeaderUK

Join in with a little #DLchat tonight after #ukedchat toshare your digital leader news, or for help to getstarted with your digi leaders

20:44:52 gallimhxx#ukedchat I always do a cycle of observe, model alesson, co-plan then co-teach with teachers I support.

20:45 djphillips1408

Why does OFSTED freak people? They dont hire/fireor give pay rises and if your grades are good then who

cares what they say? #ukedchat

20:45:09 KempsterD


20:45:12 sciencetchr21@joanne_rich @nickotkdiv and others who areaverage but shine for ofsted #ukedchat

20:45:23 Vickycarl@normal_for_jp I like that. Can we give smiley facesor sad faces too? #ukedchat

20:45:24 ICTwitz

@Mad_teach How about getting a pupil/s to film youfor a lesson / day, to see how your teaching is fromtheir perspective? #ukedchat

20:45:25 TheHeadsOffice@juliethomson101 Where is the progress across.Time?#ukedchat

20:45:26 bekblayton@super_sixfive you dont think? I think theyd have to#ofsted #ukedchat

20:45:27 CanonsOPP@MichelleDhillon @nickotkdiv The force is strong inthis one. #stormtroopers #darkside. #ukedchat

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