TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005 Claudio Allocchio - VP Technical Programme
TERENA & Gridsa new role?
Claudio AllocchioVP Technical ProgrammeTERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005
TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005 Claudio Allocchio - VP Technical Programme
EGEE (2003 plan)
• The TEC, following last GA discussion and advice, believes it is a strategic move to belong to a project such as EGEE:
– To help coordinating between Grid and NRENs communities (coordination and cross dissemination), with positive effects also on Campus issues
– To create synergy for all other possible FP6 projects where TERENA is being contacted as dissemination partner
TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005 Claudio Allocchio - VP Technical Programme
EGEE (current)
TERENA, Dissemination (NA2) coordinator, with main tasks as:
• Provide a lively, up to date and technically informative WEB site (entry point to EGEE)
• Provide Mailing Lists• Preparation of printed material • Internal liaison between TERENA TF and project
activities and Grid activities
TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005 Claudio Allocchio - VP Technical Programme
EGEE YEAR 1 Resources(1 April 2004 – 31 March 2005)
• Committed effort 36 pm• Delivered effort 35.957 pm
• Jo Barnett 100%• Jim Buddin 100%• ITS and Mgmt 1 FTE in total
• Income received : € 201,312• Expenditure: € 444,106
TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005 Claudio Allocchio - VP Technical Programme
EGEE YEAR 1 Feedback(1 April 2004 – 31 March 2005)
• TERENA did a very good job, which is widely appreciated both inside and outside EGEE
• Raised profile of TERENA within EGEE / GRID community
• Information flow to TERENA members has been sporadic
• Resouce consuming with respect with expected "internal" information dissemination/fostering
TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005 Claudio Allocchio - VP Technical Programme
How to make a proposal? (1)
TERENA, Technical supervisor of collaboration among grid projects (including EGEE and the upcoming ones) activites, related TFs and NRENs
• TERENA supports and helps the publicity dissemination activity, but somebody else take the leadership of this activity
• Migrate from EGEE "publicity towards external world" into "dissemination/information exchange involving NRENs and other grid projects" (in or out?)
• TF-EMC2, EUGridPMA, GGF and Internet2 collaborations
TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005 Claudio Allocchio - VP Technical Programme
How to make a proposal? (2)
TERENA should take the initiative to make the proposal change:
• We are very good in bringing people/organizations together to exchange information and setup collaborations
• We have seen, expecially from the GRID-NRENs workshop, where the live problems of grid projects (including EGEE) are, and we can seriously help in solving them
• TERENA members need this information coming from grid community (including EGEE) to flow towards them and back to grid users
TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005 Claudio Allocchio - VP Technical Programme
How to make a proposal? (3)
TERENA How To?
• establishing a sort of information exchage channel between TFs and related grid projects (old and new) working areas
• promoting coordinated technical activites, like for example the establishment of an AAI which should be usable both by grid activites and by "normal" NRENs users (even if with different attributes...)
• providing technical forum for joint meetings of the above
(not the only ones) groups, etc...
TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005 Claudio Allocchio - VP Technical Programme
How to make a proposal? (4)
From "inside" or from "outside"?
• The grid/NREN workshop is likely to exist anyhow• "outside" pros:
– Less administrative work/management
– Looks more "neutral"
– …
• "inside" pros:– Quicker access to information
– Easier harvesting inside partners
– …
• Which political message do we want to send?
TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005 Claudio Allocchio - VP Technical Programme
How to make a proposal? (5)
TERENA How To if "inside" ?
• Send the proposal to EGEE PMB via the Network Federation representative, with a very proactive role
• Insist firmly on a 100% funded activity for this role, "or no activity at all"
• When ? --> NOW !
TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005 Claudio Allocchio - VP Technical Programme
Further Future
• … short term: workshops• … medium term: "cluster like" project
covering all grid related projects?– How effective could it be?– Just "do it anyhow" ?– Discussion at October GA
• These issues are INDIPENDENT of being in or out EGEE2
TERENA GA - Poznan June 09-10 2005 Claudio Allocchio - VP Technical Programme
Discussion!
• Do we agree on starting being a forum for Grid/NRENs info exchange and consensus building ?
• Do we believe we should stay inside or outside EGEE2 for playing our NEW role ?
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