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YBTJ – You Be The Judge!

Competitive Comparison Report

Report Date: Dec 2009

© Bobcat Company 2009

TakeuchiTL240

Bobcat T650

vs.

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Quick Specs Published

TakeuchiTL240

Bobcat T650

ROC (35% of Tip) 2083 lbs 2570 lbs

Horsepower 86 HP 74.3 HP

Operating Weight* 10,115 lbs 9440 lbs

Width 69.7 in. 72.9 in.

Length of Track on Ground 58.9 in. 59 in.

Height 89.4 in. 81.3 in.

Length with bucket 150 in. 136.8 in.

Max Height to Hinge Pin 122.9 in. 124 in.

Auxiliary hydraulic flow 20 GPM 23 GPM

Aux. hydraulic flow (High Flow) GPM 30.5 GPM

Aux. hydraulic relief pressure 3000 PSI 3500 PSI*Operating Weight represents standard machine with operator and bucket

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Summary of Bobcat Advantages

Breakout Up to 44% higher

Tip & ROC 16% higher with the same bucket

Bucket 10% more capacity

Cycle Times Up to 43% faster

Travel Performance 40% faster in standard speed

Height 8” less, can fit through 7’ doorways

Service Access One sided serviceability offers easier access to more items

Undercarriage Advantages Roller suspension option, C-pattern tracks, single flange idlers

Features Additional standard features (ex. programmable service reminder, spark arrest muffler) and optional features (ex. ACS, SJC, high flow, ride control, keyless start, counterweight kit)

Bobcat T650 Advantages Over Takeuchi TL240

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Breakout Forces

Takeuchi TL240

Bobcat

T650

T650 Advantage

Published

Bucket Takeuchi 76” Dirt Bobcat 80” C/I

Lift (lbs) 7425 6400 -14%

Tilt (lbs) 7403 5500 -26%

Tested(per ISO Standards –

unblocked)

Bucket Takeuchi 76” Dirt with Teeth

Bobcat 80” C/I

Lift (lbs) Unable to test 6400

Tilt (lbs) Unable to test 5500

• Based on printed specs, the Bobcat T650 is at a disadvantage

• Unable to test breakouts with the Takeuchi 76” Dirt Bucket because of the welded teeth

Performance

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Breakout Forces with the Same Bucket

Takeuchi TL240

Bobcat

T650

Bobcat T650 Advantage

Tested(per ISO

Standards –unblocked)

Bucket Bobcat 80” C/I Bobcat 80” C/I

Lift (lbs) 6000 6400 7%

Tilt (lbs) 5850 5500 -6%

Push while Lift (lbs) 8100 8400 4%

Lift while Push (lbs) 3200 4600 44%

• With the same bucket the Bobcat T650 has a 7% advantage in lift breakout

and 44% higher lift while push force

Performance

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Tip Load and ROC

Takeuchi

TL240

Bobcat

T650

T650

Advantage

Published

Bucket Takeuchi 76” Dirt 80” C/I

Tip (lbs) 5952 7343 23%

ROC (lbs) 2083 2570 23%

Tested(per ISO

Standards)

Bucket Takeuchi 76” Dirt 80” C/I

Tip (lbs) 6192 7343 19%

ROC (lbs) 2167 2570 19%

- Published operating weight Takeuchi TL240 – 10,115 lbs

- Tested operating weight Takeuchi TL240 – 10,595 lbs (Options: Cab and HVAC)

- Bobcat T650 – 9,440 lbs

• The Bobcat T650 has a 19% advantage in tested tip over the Takeuchi TL240 even

though the TL240 weighs 1,155lbs more.

Performance

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Tip Load and ROC with the same bucket

Takeuchi

TL240

Bobcat

T650

Bobcat Model Advantages

Tested (per ISO Standards)

Bucket 80” C/I 80” C/I

Tip (lbs) 6352 7343 16%

ROC (lbs) 2223 2570 16%

Performance

- Published operating weight Takeuchi TL240 – 10,115 lbs

- Tested operating weight Takeuchi TL240 – 10,595 lbs (Options: Cab and HVAC)

- Bobcat T650 – 9,440 lbs

• The Bobcat T650 has a 16% advantage in tested tip over the Takeuchi TL240 with

the same bucket even though the TL240 weighs 1,155lbs more.

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Bucket Comparison

Takeuchi

TL240

Bobcat

T650

Bobcat

Advantage

Std Bucket 76” HD Dirt 80” HD C/I

Heaped Capacity

20.3 cu. ft. 22.4 cu. ft. 10%

• The HD T650 bucket has 10% more capacity – which means 10% more

material can be transported in a given time.

Performance

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Pallet Fork Tip and ROC

Takeuchi TL240

Bobcat

T650

Bobcat T650 Advantages

Tested (per ISO Standards)

Bucket Bobcat Pallet Forks

Bobcat Pallet Forks

Tip (lbs) 4579 5231 14%

ROC (lbs) 1603 1831 14%

- Published operating weight Takeuchi TL240 – 10,115 lbs -

- Tested operating weight Takeuchi TL240 – 10,595 lbs (Options: Cab and HVAC)

- Bobcat T650 – 9,440 lbs

• The Bobcat T650 has a 14% advantage in tested pallet fork tip over the Takeuchi TL240

even though the TL240 weighs 1,155lbs more.

*Tested at 66” above the ground.

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Cycle Times

Takeuchi TL240

Bobcat

T650

Bobcat T650 Advantages

STD Bucket 76” HD Dirt 80” C/I

Tested(per ISO

Standards)

Lift 4.5 seconds 3.9 seconds 15%

Lower 3.0 seconds 2.6 seconds 15%

Dump 3.3 seconds 2.3 seconds 43%

Roll Back 2.2 seconds 1.7 seconds 29%

Lift & Dump 5.0 seconds 4.2 seconds 19%

Lower & Roll Back 4.0 seconds 3.5 seconds 14%

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Weight Distribution

Takeuchi TL240 Bobcat T650

Bucket 76” HD Dirt 80” C/I

Front * 39% 36%

Rear * 61% 64%

* Per ISO standard

Performance

• The TL240 is more flat-footed than the T650

needing more horsepower to turn.

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Travel Performance

• Bobcat T650 large displacement, high torque drive motors have a 40% travel

speed advantage over the Takeuchi TL240 in low range.

• The Takeuchi 2-spd is too slow in low range to be productive, yet in high

range the machine is not able to do work.

• The Bobcat T650 has a good balance of speed and power, maximizing

productivity with no need to shift.

Performance

Travel Speed Takeuchi TL240

Bobcat

T650

Bobcat Model Advantages

Low (MPH) 4.7 6.6 40%

High (MPH) 7.2 6.6 -8%

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Cab Comfort

• Sealed and Pressurized Cab

• Seat mounted joysticks with SJC option

• Improved HVAC performance

• More Seat travel

• Larger Cab

• Cab Forward design

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Operator Comfort

• Takeuchi promotes their large operator compartment and excavator style

suspension seat. What they don’t promote is they also have over 8”

added height. This can cause height issues as the TL240 is over 7’ tall.

• Takeuchi also has a door that slides overhead

89” tall

Does not

fit

through

7’ doors

81” tall

Does fit

through

7’

doorways

Comfort Cab

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Visibility

Bobcat offers good all around visibility

Bobcat T650

• Easy to see tracks when lift

arms are lowered

• Can see bucket edge & corners

• Good visibility out front & rear

• Easy to see when hooking up

attachments

Comfort Cab

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Service Access – Engine

• Bobcat T650 has easy visibility & accessibility to 10 maintenance items by simply opening

the tailgate, the Takeuchi TL240 has only 5 easily accessible items from opening the tailgate

Air

filter

Fuel

filter

Eng

oil fill Alternator

Battery

Eng Oil

Dipstick

Eng oil

filter

Starter

Eng oil

drain

Serviceability

Hyd Oil

Cooler

Air Filter

Battery

Hyd oil

filterEng

Coolant

Fuel

fill

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Service Access – Under the Cab

Serviceability

Service Access – Under the Cab

Serviceability

• Cab Rolls Back

• Less hydraulic connections and fittings– Less potential for leaks

• Lots of room to work

• Cab Rolls Back

• Many hydraulic connections and fittings

• Not much room to work

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Cooling System

Takeuchi TL240

• Pulls air into engine compartment, across

engine then through the coolers

• Exhaust air out tailgate

• Have to have a slotted tailgate, which

can lead to damage to the cooling

package

• Direct drive fan can only turns as fast as

engine

Bobcat - Dual path cooling

• Pulls in cooler/cleaner air from above

• Goes through cooling package, exhausts out the

sides

• Also evacuate hot, dirty air from the engine &

transmission areas

• Cooling package is well protected between

uprights

• SmartFAN – fan speed based on cooling needs

Bobcat dual path cooling

Uptime Protection

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Undercarriage Overview

Takeuchi TL240

• Promote that their machines are “designed

from the ground up” to be track loaders

• Claim that Bobcat just puts tracks under a

SSL

• This is untrue!!

Bobcat T650

• Bobcat designs our track loaders from the

ground up as well. All items in a Bobcat track

loader are designed specifically for track loaders.

• The lift arms, undercarriage, and mainframe

have all been designed around the rigors of CTL

use. Even the buckets have been strengthened

for these strong machines.

• So don't let a customer think for a moment that

Bobcat track loaders are anything but dedicated

Uptime Protection

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Undercarriage Options

Bobcat T6502 Undercarriage Options

Takeuchi TL240• Standard (Rigid) Undercarriage only.

1. Standard (Rigid) 2. Roller Suspension

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Tracks

Bobcat• Bridgestone

• “C-Pattern”

– Bobcat Exclusive

– Better mud traction

– Less HP to bend

• 12.6” or 17.7” wide

Takeuchi• Bridgestone

• “Block” Lug

– Takes more HP to bend around sprocket & idlers

– Reduced mud traction

• 17.7” wide only

Uptime Protection

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Idlers

Bobcat T650

• Single flange, steel idlers

• Support & guide the track more

effectively

• More tolerant to debris than dual

flange idlers, minimize de-tracking

• Permanently sealed & lubricated

• Front idlers absorb shock loads

Takeuchi TL240

• Dual flange rear idlers

• Not as tolerant to debris, more

potential for de-tracking

• Adds to inner track wear

• Single flange front idlers

Takeuchi dual flange rear idler Bobcat T650 single flange idler

Uptime Protection

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Feature Comparison

Feature Takeuchi TL240 Bobcat T650

Programmable service reminder

N/A Std

Spark Arrestor Muffler N/A Std

Selectable control patterns (ACS, SJC w/ speed mgmt)

N/A Opt

High flow hydraulics N/A Opt

Ride control N/A Opt

Keyless start N/A Opt

Counterweight Kit N/A Opt

Power Bob-tach Opt (Std with Cab Model) Opt

Machine shutdown protection Std Std

Press. release aux couplers Std Std

Seat Bar Std Std

Finger tip auxiliaries Std Std

Suspension seat Std Std