LCGAccounting Reporting
Update
John Gordon,CCLRC
LCG Grid Deployment Board5th April 2006
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Tier1 Reporting
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Background
On 22nd February I sent a list of sites who were not publishing accounting to:-
MB GDB EGEE ROC Managers
I asked them to:-a) check the list for sites in your country or supported by your Tier1/ROC. I
think these should be obvious but if anyone has problems, let me know.
b) approach these sites and ask why they are not publishing and report the reason back to me. I will collate the replies. If you consider that they will not be contributing to LHC computing then that is a valid reason for the MB but they may be hearing from EGEE.
c) make them aware of the LCG policy agreed by the last MB that everyone should publish regular accounts for their LHC VOs by some method (as discussed during my MB Accounting talk)
d) if there are legal or security arguments why they cannot publish, please highlight this so that we can get a working group investigating the implications.
e) get an estimate from them of when they can start publishing.
Very few replies (none on policies or legal issues) ~72 sites not publishing in last 3 months cf ~150 who have
published at all
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21 February 2006Region Site Name
AsiaPacificGOG-Singapore Taiwan-IPAS-LCG2 Taiwan-NCUCC-LCG2 TOKYO-LCG2
TW-NCUHEP
CentralEuropeBUDAPEST CYFRONET-IA64 egee.man.poznan.pl GUP-JKU SiGNET
WARSAW-EGEE
CERNALBERTA-LCG2 BEIJING-CNIC-LCG2-IA64 BEIJING-LCG2 BNL-LCG2
CARLETONU-LCG2 CERN-CIC
CERN
HPBR-LCG2 HPTC-LCG2ia64 NCP-LCG2 PAkGrid-LCG2SDU-LCG2 TORONTO-LCG2
TRIUMF-GC-LCG2 UIOWA-LCG2
France CGG-LCG2 IN2P3-SUBATECH IN2P3-LAPP
GermanySwitzerland Ekplcg2 GSI-LCG2 ITWM
Italy INFN-BOLOGNA-CMS INFN-CATANIA INFN-LNL-2 INFN-MILANO
Italy INFN-NAPOLI INFN-PADOVA INFN-PISA2 INFN-TORINO
NorthernEuropeBEgrid-KULeuven BEgrid-UGent BEgrid-ULB-VUB BelGrid-UCL HPC2N
Morpheus
NorthernEurope NIKHEF-ELPROD NSC-BLUESMOKE SARA-LISA
RussiaKharkov-KIPT-LCG2 RU-Protvino-IHEP RU-SPbSU ru-Novgorod-NOVSU-
LCG2
SouthWesternEurope UB-LCG2
UKI BITLab-LCG (x2) CAVENDISH-LCG2 UCL-HEP UKI-LT2-IC-LeSC
UKI
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Actions from February MB
Countries to give feedback on legal issues with LCG-wide accounting (By April) Finland only
APEL to understand gLite implications (previous talk) Tier1s to help ‘their’ associated sites to deploy and
configure APEL. (More Green sites) or to use their own accounting system to publish to LCG
Repository Sites to check their APEL logs for errors
give feedback to increase reliability and robustness Sites to compare with other sources as reality check
eg if Ganglia shows 90% average utilisation over a month then APEL numbers should agree.
Work with OSG to push/pull their LCG accounting data (Previous talk)
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05 March 2006Region Site Name
AsiaPacificGOG-Singapore Taiwan-IPAS-LCG2 Taiwan-NCUCC-LCG2 TOKYO-LCG2
TW-NCUHEP
CentralEuropeBUDAPEST CYFRONET-IA64 egee.man.poznan.pl GUP-JKU SiGNET
WARSAW-EGEE WARSAW-LCG2
CERNALBERTA-LCG2 BEIJING-CNIC-LCG2-IA64 BEIJING-LCG2 BNL-LCG2
CARLETONU-LCG2 CERN-CIC
CERNHPBR-LCG2 HPTC-LCG2 HPTC-LCG2ia64 NCP-LCG2 SDU-LCG2 TORONTO-
LCG2 TRIUMF-GC-LCG2 UIOWA-LCG2
France CGG-LCG2(*) IN2P3-SUBATECH IN2P3-LAPP
GermanySwitzerland Ekplcg2 GSI-LCG2 ITWM RWTH-Aachen
Italy INFN-BOLOGNA-CMS INFN-CATANIA INFN-LNL-2 INFN-MILANO
Italy INFN-NAPOLI INFN-PADOVA INFN-PISA2 INFN-TORINO
NorthernEuropeBEgrid-KULeuven BEgrid-UGent BEgrid-ULB-VUB BelGrid-UCL HPC2N
Morpheus
NorthernEurope NIKHEF-ELPROD NSC NSC-BLUESMOKE SARA-LISA
RussiaKharkov-KIPT-LCG2 RU-Protvino-IHEP RU-SPbSU ru-Novgorod-NOVSU-
LCG2
SouthEastEurope MK-01-UKIM_II
SouthWestEurope UB-LCG2
UKIBITLab-LCG (x2) CAVENDISH-LCG2 UCL-HEP UKI-LT2-IC-LeSC QMUL-
eScience
UKI
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05 April 2006 (incomplete)Region Site Name
AsiaPacificGOG-Singapore Taiwan-IPAS-LCG2 Taiwan-NCUCC-LCG2 TOKYO-LCG2
TW-NCUHEP
CentralEuropeBUDAPEST CYFRONET-IA64 egee.man.poznan.pl GUP-JKU SiGNET
WARSAW-EGEE WARSAW-LCG2 AMD64.PSNC.PL
CERNALBERTA-LCG2 BEIJING-CNIC-LCG2-IA64 BEIJING-LCG2 BNL-LCG2
CARLETONU-LCG2 CERN-CIC
CERNHPBR-LCG2 HPTC-LCG2 HPTC-LCG2ia64 NCP-LCG2 SDU-LCG2 TORONTO-
LCG2 TRIUMF-GC-LCG2 UIOWA-LCG2
France CGG-LCG2(*) IN2P3-SUBATECH IN2P3-LAPP
GermanySwitzerland Ekplcg2 GSI-LCG2 ITWM RWTH-Aachen
Italy INFN-BOLOGNA-CMS INFN-CATANIA INFN-LNL-2 INFN-MILANO
Italy INFN-NAPOLI INFN-PADOVA INFN-PISA2 INFN-TORINO
NorthernEuropeBEgrid-KULeuven BEgrid-UGent BEgrid-ULB-VUB BelGrid-UCL HPC2N
Morpheus
NorthernEurope NIKHEF-ELPROD NSC NSC-BLUESMOKE SARA-LISA
RussiaKharkov-KIPT-LCG2 RU-Protvino-IHEP RU-SPbSU RRC-KI ru-Novgorod-
NOVSU-LCG2
SouthEastEurope MK-01-UKIM_II TAU-LCG2
SouthWestEurope UB-LCG2
UKIBITLab-LCG (x2) CAVENDISH-LCG2 UCL-HEP UKI-LT2-IC-LeSC QMUL-
eScience UKI-LT2-CENTRAL
UKI
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Comments
We have observed that the list of sites not publishing has a few false positives.
Some non-publishing sites may be publishing under another name (mainly sorted)
Some flagged sites were not yet in production. No way of flagging old that should no longer be
publishing. Type=Closed proposed NIKHEF publish from their own database and are
seeing an R-GMA problem. (??)
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Reporting to CRRB
The OB wants the CRRB to receive monthly figures for LHC use at Tier1 Centres
to start with We have sufficient CPU reporting in APEL for T1s
but only report Grid work How many T1s run significant non-Grid LHC work?
Not ready with tape and disk reporting yet So what do we do?
How about manual reporting? Example courtesy of Manuel Delfino
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Which Numbers?
What numbers are to be input? CPU easy, use APEL or your local system
Normailise to SI2K kilohours as in APEL Disk and tape are not so easy
TBdays integrated over the month? months have different numbers of days
Average TB/day ? A snapshot on the 1st (or last) day of the month? all per LHC VO allocated or used space?
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Can we do better?
A simple tool could take the manually produced disk and tape numbers and publish them to the central APEL respository
The change to automatic measurement and submission would then be controlled and easily phased in.
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