Transcript of the Testimony of Alisha and Dustin Brigance
Date: November 14, 2013Volume: I
Case: In Re: Joplin Critical Investigation
Printed On: November 27, 2013
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IN RE: JOPLIN CRITICAL INVESTIGATION
SWORN STATEMENT OF
ALISHA BRIGANCE and DUSTIN BRIGANCE
Taken on Thursday, November 14, 2013, from 3:46 p.m. to 4:43
p.m., at the law offices of Juddson H. McPherson, LLC, 626
S. Byers, in the City of Joplin, County of Jasper, State of
Missouri, before
SHARON K. ROGERS, C.C.R.650,
a Certified Court Reporter and a Notary Public within and
for the County of Jasper, and State of Missouri.
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APPEARANCES
MR. THOMAS E. LORAINE
Loraine & Associates, LLC
4075 Osage Beach Pkwy., Suite 300
Osage Beach, MO 65065
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S T I P U L A T I O N
IT IS HEREBY STIPULATED AND AGREED that this Sworn
Statement may be taken by steno-mask type recording by
SHARON K. ROGERS, a Certified Court Reporter, and
afterwards reduced into typewriting.
It is further stipulated that the signature of the
witness is hereby waived, and that said Sworn Statement of
said witness shall be of the same force and effect as
though said witness had read and signed Sworn Statement.
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I N D E X
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DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. LORAINE . . . 5-22
E X H I B I T S
Exhibit #26 . . . . . . . 58-4
Contract
Note: Exhibits in separate binder
(sic) - typed as spoken
(ph.) - phonetic
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1 ALISHA BRIGANCE and DUSTIN BRIGANCE
2 Having been first duly sworn and examined,
3 testified as follows:
4 BY MR. LORAINE: Let's swear Dustin
5 in, also, while we're doing it. Now I'm
6 going to try to take the statement from
7 Alisha first, and only one of us can talk
8 because the court reporter has to listen to
9 one of us and then the other one responding
10 and they can't understand head shakes so
11 you've got to say yes, no, or whatever. And
12 if we can if you, Dustin, have something to
13 say just say I've got something to add to
14 that and then I'll stop and I'll go to you
15 and she'll be able to distinguish the voices
16 and of course it would be so on the record.
17 You knew that we were taking statements under
18 oath, is that true?
19 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Yes.
20 BY MR. LORAINE: And we want all the
21 truth so here we are.
22 DIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. LORAINE:
23 Q. Alisha, can you tell me let's go through this
24 again, it's my understanding that neither you
25 nor your husband work for the City?
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1 A. That is correct.
2 Q. And you knew that I was doing an
3 investigation on some matters involving the
4 City from your mother-in-law?
5 A. I knew you were doing an investigation of the
6 City because we live here and we were
7 involved already. She is the one that knows
8 enough people that called and got the - Bill
9 Scearce and, what is the other one's name,
10 Rosenberg, both of them called my mother
11 because when all this came down she got
12 really pissed and voiced her opinion and
13 called them. So when you got involved they
14 called her and she called me to call the City
15 Attorney and I called him a week ago and left
16 my name and number and he called me back and
17 we scheduled this to come talk to you through
18 my mother.
19 Q. And what's your mother's name?
20 A. Cheryl Dandridge.
21 Q. And she's an ex-Mayor of the City of Joplin?
22 A. Yes.
23 Q. And she's been retired now for a few years
24 off that Mayor job?
25 A. She's been retired since 1992.
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1 Q. And she's not on the Council now?
2 A. No.
3 Q. And hasn't been since '92?
4 A. No, she hasn't even lived in the City since
5 1992.
6 Q. So tell me what you're here to tell me about.
7 A. Our dealings with Mike Woolston and Four
8 State Homes in the sale of our home, our
9 house.
10 Q. Four State Homes is the company he was
11 working for?
12 A. No, Four State Homes is the person that
13 purchased our house - well, this is going to
14 get confusing. Okay, Mike Woolston at the
15 time worked for Pro 100. He was working for
16 Four State Homes to purchase an extremely
17 large amount of property in our area.
18 Q. Who did he work for, Four State Homes?
19 A. That's who his client was was Four State
20 Homes. In July of 2002 we received a letter
21 - sorry, 2012. July 2012 we received a
22 letter from Woolston saying that somebody was
23 interested in the purchasing of our property.
24 About that same time were the rumors of the
25 movie theater and library going in at 20th
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1 and Connecticut. Our house was at 1812
2 Delaware which our yard, I don't know how to
3 explain this - Connecticut was here and
4 Delaware was here (indicating) so there was
5 no alley so the yards would connect in a way.
6 Q. You were one block away from Delaware?
7 A. No, we were on Delaware. We were a block
8 away from Connecticut.
9 Q. From Connecticut. And Connecticut was
10 essentially where the --
11 A. At the time was where the rumors were going
12 that the --
13 Q. The art center or whatever it is?
14 A. Yes, the library, theater, all that stuff.
15 At the time we got the letter that was what
16 the rumor was. I called my mom and told her
17 about it. She told me to call Gary Shaw and
18 I called Gary and he said, oh, it's nothing,
19 it's just rumors, we don't know what it's
20 about, you know, don't know why someone would
21 want to purchase the property. We were like,
22 okay, so we didn't do anything about it at
23 the time. Our neighborhood is an extremely
24 close knit neighborhood so we knew that we
25 weren't the only ones that got - we knew that
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1 everybody got a letter from 18th and Delaware
2 all the way to 20th Street and then down 19th
3 Street to New Jersey. It's a really weird -
4 it's a very L-shaped area. So we knew and
5 then --
6 Q. You knew that everybody in that L-shaped area
7 was receiving letters from Woolston?
8 A. Yes, and it didn't say who was purchasing,
9 who was interested, just that he had someone
10 that was interested in purchasing the
11 property. And then September or October
12 there was the announcement - it was one of
13 the CART meetings that Wallace-Bajjali made
14 the announcement that it really was going
15 there, the library when we went to that
16 meeting at City Hall.
17 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Before that we had
18 the neighborhood meeting and Woolston was
19 there.
20 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: Did we have the
21 neighborhood meeting first?
22 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Yeah, it was when
23 Scearce had the CART meeting at City Hall at
24 that meeting after we already knew. He said
25 we had a neighbor in the meeting - a neighbor
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1 just off 16th Street when everybody got
2 together and exchanged phone numbers, kind of
3 set up a neighborhood watch and started kind
4 of implements to that program and wanting to
5 also establish - someone invited a City
6 Council representative was invited, two of
7 them were invited.
8 BY MR. LORAINE: Who were invited?
9 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Benji Rosenberg.
10 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: And he is our
11 section zone person.
12 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Then you have Mike
13 Woolston was invited. As things were
14 progressing everybody was talking expressing
15 concerns, well, we have this house,
16 demolition is going there, everybody was kind
17 of taking notes, okay, this one we need to
18 call the City on demolition, or just trying
19 to make the neighborhood safer, like that,
20 trying to take hold of our neighborhood from
21 there.
22 BY MR. LORAINE: That was after the
23 tornado?
24 BY MR. BRIGANCE: This was after the
25 tornado.
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1 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: Yes, this would
2 have been September of 2012.
3 BY MR. BRIGANCE: So as we were
4 talking and everything and turned around to
5 where we asked - Woolston asked what was
6 going on and he said nothing is going in the
7 neighborhood, he's not at liberty to say. We
8 asked a grocery store or what, he said he's
9 not at liberty to say on behalf of his
10 client. So secretive about everything. Mr.
11 Rosenberg was also, he was caught off guard,
12 was unaware of everything going on based off
13 of his reaction and the - what I'm saying
14 what was going on I wasn't particularly
15 talking to him, I was trying to listen to
16 Mike Woolston's conversation as my wife was
17 talking to Mr. Rosenberg and his wife.
18 BY MR. LORAINE: Mr. Rosenberg was
19 not aware that Woolston was contacting people
20 in this area?
21 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: Correct.
22 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Correct. That was
23 my assumption.
24 BY MR. LORAINE: That's what you
25 learned?
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1 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Correct.
2 A. I have something to add to that.
3 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) All right. Go ahead.
4 A. Dr. Rosenberg and I was talking to him
5 because he asked - he said - he asked me
6 where we lived and I told him our address and
7 he asked are you one that Woolston is trying
8 to - and I said yes. I said Woolston has
9 contacted all of this grouping of people
10 about purchasing their land, and he was
11 caught off guard. He had no idea that --
12 Q. That Woolston was doing that?
13 A. That Woolston was doing that.
14 Q. All right. So what then did Woolston say?
15 BY MR. BRIGANCE: He assured us that
16 he still had somebody interested in it, could
17 not divulge anything one way or the other as
18 to who and what interests were. He
19 reiterated basic stories that were running in
20 the paper being the library, the complex,
21 just the scuttlebutt. He said that's a
22 possibility. He's never said definitive as
23 to this is or is not going in place. For
24 privacy of his client he wouldn't jeopardize
25 that, which is justifiable. And then that
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1 was in September and then we had a
2 neighborhood meeting - sorry, the City
3 Council meeting. Well, CART where they come
4 through and said this is what we have
5 proposed and puts it like that.
6 A. Yeah, Wallace-Bajjali made the big
7 announcement that - because it was City Hall
8 and Wallace-Bajjali was there and they were
9 wanting to get some ideas, other ideas, but
10 they were also making a big announcement
11 that, yes, the library and whatever was going
12 at 20th and Connecticut. And we went to that
13 and talked to David Box there because he was
14 the one that was going to discuss that.
15 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) He works for
16 Wallace-Bajjali?
17 A. He works for Wallace-Bajjali. So after the
18 big announcement they let everybody kind of
19 sit out and talk to varying different groups
20 of I guess Wallace-Bajjali people that were
21 representing certain things and all of us
22 went to go to talk to - our entire
23 neighborhood, most of our neighborhood was at
24 this meeting - went to talk to David Box
25 about it. And in this time period we had
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1 contacted Bonnie, which is Bonnie Wright who
2 works for Pro 100 was our realtor for us. We
3 had contacted her to contact Woolston.
4 BY MR. BRIGANCE: We wanted to get a
5 buffer in there and we were trying to get
6 some things on our side to figure out what
7 was going on because we don't want to get
8 blindsided in trying to get some --
9 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) So you got a realtor?
10 A. We got a realtor.
11 Q. And what was your realtor's name?
12 A. Bonnie Wright.
13 Q. How do I get hold of her?
14 A. And she actually worked for Pro 100. I mean
15 she was a personal friend of ours.
16 BY MR. BRIGANCE: She'd actually been
17 with us whenever we --
18 A. She's the one that sold us the original
19 property.
20 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) How do I get hold of her?
21 A. 417 - is that her work, the 649? No, it's
22 not.
23 Q. I don't need her work, just whatever number
24 you've got for her.
25 A. 437-2726.
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1 Q. 2726. Now does she know anymore than you do
2 about any of the things with Woolston? Would
3 she talk with him?
4 A. She would be the one to talk to him. She was
5 who would talk to him in the negotiations and
6 everything else.
7 Q. So would you call her and tell her I'd like
8 to speak with her down here and see if she'd
9 come?
10 A. Uh-huh.
11 Q. And I'd like to know what conversations she
12 had. Now does she still work for Woolston or
13 with Woolston at Pro 100?
14 A. No, he actually no longer works for Pro 100.
15 Q. Okay. So she would not have any hesitancy to
16 talk to me?
17 A. I don't think so. I don't know.
18 Q. You paid her a commission, didn't you?
19 A. Yes.
20 Q. Well, see if she will.
21 A. Okay.
22 Q. And if she will I'll be here tomorrow about
23 1:00 or 1:30 and at 2:00, something like
24 that. See if she'll come in and talk with
25 me. Would you do that?
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1 A. Yes, I'd do that.
2 Q. I appreciate that. Maybe she'll come and
3 talk to me. Now let's talk some more. So
4 what else?
5 A. So we contacted her kind of just to see - we
6 hadn't officially decided. It was a more of
7 how serious is this? Can you kind of just --
8 BY MR. BRIGANCE: We wanted a buffer,
9 kind of get somebody else's input, are we
10 jumping the gun too early, should we just
11 hang loose, what do we need to do on our end
12 as well as prior to this CART meeting that
13 went on here at City Hall. And at City Hall
14 then at the meeting we talked to Mr. Box and
15 everything like that and our neighborhood was
16 altogether that's when everything started to
17 come out that --
18 A. When he knew we were selling.
19 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) Who knew?
20 A. David Box knew that we had contacted a
21 realtor. We hadn't told anybody other than
22 our realtor.
23 Q. But David Box had some conversation with your
24 realtor apparently?
25 A. No, David Box had contacted Woolston.
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1 Because we had talked to Bonnie and said just
2 talk to him, see what - I guess kind of just
3 put feelers, see what's going on, and she's
4 like, yeah, sure, I can just kind of see, you
5 know, see if she could get a little more
6 information than what we --
7 Q. Had you already signed a contract with
8 Bonnie?
9 A. Huh-uh.
10 Q. So she was a friend?
11 A. Yeah, she was a friend. So at the night of
12 that meeting and we were talking to Box he
13 told every one of us if you live south of
14 18th Street they want your property. Or that
15 Wallace-Bajjali wanted their property.
16 Q. Did you live south of 18th Street?
17 A. (Nodding head)
18 Q. That's a yes?
19 A. That's a yes. Sorry. Yes, I live south of
20 18th Street. And I said so you're basically
21 telling me that I shouldn't have built back
22 and he asked me where I lived and I said --
23 Q. You should what?
24 A. That I should not have rebuilt my house. And
25 he asked me where I lived and I said - I gave
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1 him my address and he said, well, I thought
2 you were already selling. And I said, no. I
3 said we are not selling. And the look on his
4 face was like I just kicked him. He was
5 shocked that I answered that way. So I knew
6 at that point that Woolston had talked to him
7 and told him that we were interested in
8 selling our property.
9 Q. When had you built your house back?
10 A. We had moved in Christmas Eve of 2012.
11 BY MR. BRIGANCE: 2011.
12 A. 2011. Sorry.
13 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) So how many months before
14 this?
15 A. Six months.
16 Q. So you had already built a house back. Your
17 house was totally destroyed?
18 A. Our house was totally destroyed.
19 Q. How did you build back?
20 A. Insurance money. Insurance money and we had
21 a mortgage loan. We had a contractor's loan
22 that turned into a mortgage loan.
23 Q. And there was sufficient money in the
24 insurance to build your home again?
25 A. Yes.
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1 Q. So you were not intending on moving then?
2 A. No, we had absolutely no intention of moving
3 at all.
4 Q. Are you now in that house?
5 A. No, we sold it. It sold.
6 Q. You sold it because they were going to what?
7 A. We sold it because Four State Homes bought
8 every bit of property around our house and
9 sold it to the City.
10 Q. So there was no neighbors anymore?
11 A. We have no neighbors. We had no neighbors.
12 Well, --
13 BY MR. BRIGANCE: As we were going
14 through the hoops - after all this we
15 contacted Bonnie and we did contracts, okay,
16 let's go ahead since this is going this way
17 and they went from 18th Street south we're
18 stuck, we've got to get out no matter what so
19 let's get out when we can, cut our losses and
20 just get away because I don't want to live in
21 a neighborhood with commercial things like
22 that. That's why we built back. So we
23 secured ours with Bonnie, things to cover
24 Bonnie Wright to cover it that way, and then
25 we started going through various requests by
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1 Mike Woolston on behalf of his client, which
2 at this time we still didn't - we had
3 suspicion it was Four State Homes, but I mean
4 we weren't completely sure.
5 A. We knew who it was because we knew - the
6 property to the south of us was originally
7 owned by a gentleman by the name of Jason
8 Bass and he's a good friend of ours. He
9 actually sold his property first and we knew
10 who he sold his property to so that's why we
11 had a feeling we knew who was buying.
12 Q. And it was Four State Homes?
13 A. And it was Four State Homes.
14 Q. Now who is that name, Jason who?
15 A. Jason Bass, B-A-S-S. He was the original -
16 he was the first to sell all of them, or sell
17 out of all of them.
18 Q. Now had he rebuilt his home?
19 A. No, we were the only ones to rebuild.
20 Everybody else was land.
21 Q. So I'm going to have to ask you some personal
22 questions.
23 A. That's fine.
24 Q. Did you have enough money from the insurance
25 company to cover your entire building back?
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1 A. Yes. Well, --
2 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Before we had to do
3 a contractor's loan and then after the
4 contractor's loan that rolled into a mortgage
5 so we went back to having a mortgage.
6 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) So you didn't have a
7 mortgage before the tornado?
8 A. Yes, we did. We had a mortgage. Okay, we
9 had enough insurance money to pay off our
10 existing mortgage, then we got a contractor's
11 loan which rolled over into a mortgage once
12 our house was built.
13 Q. Who fixed you up with that contractor?
14 A. Arvest Bank.
15 Q. Who?
16 A. Arvest Bank.
17 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Fixed us up with
18 the contractor or the loan?
19 A. It wasn't a contract, it was a construction
20 loan, sorry. It was called a construction
21 loan, and once the construction of the house
22 was completed it automatically rolled over
23 into a mortgage loan.
24 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) And who is involved at
25 Arvest Bank?
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1 A. Who did our loan? Casey Cowger was our loan
2 --
3 Q. Did they inquire as to whether or not the
4 rest of the neighborhood was selling or
5 anything?
6 A. Huh-uh, we owned the land before. All of us
7 - when our house was completely built
8 everybody still owned their original lots.
9 Q. But they were all in various stages of
10 dilapidation?
11 A. Yes.
12 Q. They were affected by the tornado?
13 A. Correct.
14 Q. Was there anybody still really living in any
15 of those homes?
16 A. No, our entire neighborhood was completely
17 wiped out.
18 BY MR. BRIGANCE: From 18th Street
19 south along Delaware we were the only house
20 that was there.
21 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) And that's the new house,
22 correct?
23 A. That's the new house, yes.
24 Q. Now let's talk about so now you don't want to
25 be in a commercial neighborhood so you
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1 contact Bonnie Wright and she contacts who?
2 A. She contacts Mike Woolston and says, okay,
3 they're deciding to go ahead and sell, let's
4 negotiate. And we knew he was in
5 negotiations not only with us, but everybody
6 else in the neighborhood. And we started
7 talks in the end of October and we did not
8 even come
9 to --
10 Q. What year?
11 A. October of 2012.
12 Q. When did you finalize your negotiations?
13 A. February 28th of 2013 is when we officially
14 signed the documents that this is what we
15 agreed to sell.
16 Q. And who did you sign that with? Was that
17 Woolston?
18 A. We signed with - well, Woolston had Charlie
19 Kuehn sign the paperwork and he was the owner
20 of Four State Homes, he gave the papers to
21 Bonnie and Bonnie brought them to us and we
22 signed them.
23 Q. Now do you know if Woolston received a
24 commission?
25 A. According to the papers - according to these
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1 papers it says that we will pay for Bonnie's
2 commission and Four State Homes would pay for
3 Mike Woolston's commission.
4 Q. Let me see what papers you've got.
5 A. That's the original contract we signed. But
6 there's much more other jacked up stuff. Oh,
7 it's right here. Right there.
8 Q. You're talking about special agreements,
9 number 22 on page 607?
10 A. Yes.
11 Q. And it says, "Seller will pay commission for
12 listing agent and buyer will pay commission
13 for selling agent. Sale and closing
14 contingent on -" so it says the buyer is
15 going to pay for one and the seller is going
16 to pay for the other?
17 A. Uh-huh.
18 Q. Did you pay for somebody?
19 A. We paid for Bonnie. We paid Bonnie's
20 commission. In these negotiations we had -
21 our house is custom built, or was custom
22 built. Custom cabinets, hardwood floors,
23 granite countertops, tile floors. It was a
24 1,900 square foot home. Our original asking
25 price was $210,000.00.
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1 Q. Now you're talking about your rebuilt home?
2 A. Our rebuilt home.
3 Q. Okay. It was $210,000.00?
4 A. Was the offer that we told Bonnie to give to
5 Woolston to give to Four State Homes.
6 Q. And how much profit would that have made you
7 on what you owed?
8 A. On what we owed?
9 Q. Yes.
10 A. After commission we ended up with --
11 Q. No, I'm saying --
12 BY MR. BRIGANCE: That would have
13 brought us $50,000.00.
14 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) You would have made
15 $50,000.00 on that you're saying based over
16 above what you paid for the house?
17 A. Yes.
18 Q. And that would have helped you on your
19 mortgage?
20 A. Yes.
21 Q. How much was your mortgage?
22 A. Our mortgage was $110,000.00.
23 BY MR. BRIGANCE: As we were talking
24 with him the issue of if we were going to
25 move the house, have somebody come out and
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1 walk through the house, my client might walk
2 through the house to see about moving it if
3 it's feasible to move it.
4 A. And I kept telling him it wasn't feasible to
5 move because there was a solid poured
6 concrete safe room in the dead center of the
7 house and they did not believe me it was not
8 feasible to move. So Bonnie and I met Mike
9 Woolston, someone from Four State Homes, and
10 then two people from Wallace-Bajjali showed
11 up at our house to look at our house and they
12 never looked at the possibility of moving it.
13 They never once crawled underneath the
14 house. They looked at the house like they
15 were wanting to purchase it. And the first
16 offer that they came back to us was for
17 $150,000.00.
18 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) $150,000.00 as opposed to
19 the $210,000.00 that you had listed?
20 A. Correct.
21 Q. So what then happened?
22 A. Bonnie basically told them no and don't come
23 back unless you actually have a real offer
24 for us. They wanted to know basically what
25 we paid to purchase the house, or sorry, to
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1 build the house.
2 Q. The new house?
3 A. The new house, yes. They wanted to know -
4 they wanted the --
5 BY MR. BRIGANCE: They wanted to know
6 everything about investment, about how much
7 we invested out-of-pocket, how much was
8 insurance invested, they wanted to know the
9 whole details of everything.
10 BY MR. LORAINE: Who is they?
11 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Mike Woolston's
12 client.
13 A. Four State Homes.
14 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) And did you talk directly
15 to Mike Woolston or Four States?
16 A. Bonnie talked to Woolston.
17 Q. So what did Bonnie tell? Did you tell Bonnie
18 what you had in it?
19 A. Correct.
20 Q. What was that number?
21 A. They wanted documentation of everything.
22 Q. What was that number?
23 A. $170,000.00.
24 Q. What you had into it?
25 A. Yes.
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1 Q. So you were looking to make a $25,000.00,
2 there abouts, profit?
3 A. Right.
4 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Which is also a
5 fair amount of money. We were not being
6 excessive, we were being fair market value of
7 the house.
8 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) Did anybody appraise your
9 house?
10 A. Yes, the bank appraised the house at the time
11 that it was complete.
12 Q. And who appraised it?
13 A. Arvest Bank's appraiser. I don't know the
14 gentleman's name.
15 Q. Did you have a copy of that appraisal?
16 A. Yes, I did.
17 Q. Do you have it now?
18 A. Yes, I do.
19 Q. Do you have it with you?
20 A. No, I don't. I can get it to you.
21 Q. Can you get it to me?
22 A. Uh-huh.
23 Q. And that appraisal would have said
24 $200,000.00?
25 A. Actually, no, the appraisal said $173,000.00
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1 I think is what the appraisal said.
2 Q. And you asked for $200,000.00?
3 A. We asked for $210,000.00.
4 Q. So what now then happened?
5 A. They continued - we at first thought we had
6 an agreement of the $190,000.00 and in the
7 last minute they backed out and said no and
8 we had to start negotiations over again.
9 Q. That was Woolston?
10 A. Yes, Woolston and Bonnie thought they had
11 everything worked out. Woolston took it to I
12 guess Charlie and Charlie said no.
13 Q. Charlie Kuehn?
14 A. Charlie Kuehn, yes. And then he wanted us to
15 jump through some more hoops. They were
16 still wanting to see if it was possible to
17 move the house. They actually didn't want to
18 - they didn't want to purchase the house.
19 What they wanted to do was they wanted us to
20 be able to still live in the house and they
21 were going to move the house to another
22 location for us and they just wanted the
23 land.
24 Q. I understand. And you didn't really want
25 that?
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1 A. No, because --
2 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Where they proposed
3 moving the house was in the same
4 neighborhood, once we were back there the
5 same boat of, okay, we're putting a
6 development through this, you know, we'd be
7 pushed back out again. As well as we built a
8 house to be in that location I don't want to
9 deal with the house moving or moving
10 somewhere else and take the actual money we
11 get and we'll start from scratch again and go
12 from there.
13 A. I said that I didn't trust the integrity of
14 the house with it being moved because it had
15 a concrete room in the middle of the room.
16 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) So you were worried about
17 the condition of the house?
18 A. Yeah, I was more worried about the condition
19 of the house once we got it moved. I was
20 like, no.
21 Q. So did they ultimately tear your house down?
22 A. No, they ultimately have someone living in my
23 house.
24 Q. Right now?
25 A. Yes.
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1 Q. And nothing else is there?
2 A. No.
3 Q. So really you were forced from your home
4 under the concept that other things would be
5 built there?
6 A. Correct.
7 Q. And yet they haven't?
8 A. Correct. And two other things happened. And
9 once we signed the contracts they also wanted
10 - they originally wanted us to have 120 days.
11 It was 120 days - how was it worded?
12 BY MR. BRIGANCE: It was 120 days
13 within --
14 A. 120 days they could back out and another 60
15 days after that they would close, and we were
16 like no. And we put it down to 45 days they
17 could change their mind and then 30 days
18 after that we close.
19 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) And what was the price?
20 A. $190,000.00 is what we finally agreed on.
21 Q. And that's what you got?
22 A. And that's what we got. Well, no, that's not
23 what we got. We got a little more. So our
24 real estate --
25 Q. Let's find out, what did you get?
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1 A. Well, let me explain why I say it's a little
2 more than that. May 15th was our close date.
3 Q. Just give me the number and we'll go back.
4 A. $190,000.00 plus 7, 7, and 7.
5 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Another $2,100.00,
6 plus then the last was $1,000.00 so 7 and 7
7 is $1,400.00 plus $1,000.00 would be
8 $2,400.00.
9 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) $2,400.00 in addition to
10 the $91,000.00 (sic.)?
11 A. $190,000.00, yes.
12 Q. $190,000.00. $191,000.00?
13 A. $190,000.00.
14 BY MR. BRIGANCE: They had agreed on
15 May 15th they were going to take possession
16 of our house so we moved everything, vacated
17 our house at that time, that way they could
18 have possession of the house at that time.
19 Then they came and said we need 30 more days.
20 We can't finalize the house.
21 A. They came and told us this a week before our
22 close date, that sorry, can we extend this
23 for another 30 days.
24 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) And you've already moved
25 your furniture?
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1 A. We've already moved everything out of the
2 house.
3 Q. Do you have another house?
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. At that time did you have another house?
6 A. My family has a farm that we moved into after
7 the tornado and we just moved back out there.
8 BY MR. BRIGANCE: So we penalized
9 them since they tried to postpone we
10 penalized them with a month's mortgage is how
11 we came up with $700.00. Another month comes
12 up, actually I think it was four or five days
13 prior.
14 A. Yeah, it was the month - we were supposed to
15 close on a Friday. They called us that
16 Monday and said we have to extend it another
17 30 days. I'm like, okay.
18 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) Who called you?
19 A. Woolston called Bonnie, Bonnie called us, and
20 they said they needed to extend it another 30
21 days. And they needed to change who was
22 going to purchase the house. It was going to
23 come out of - it was no longer going to be
24 Four State Homes, LLC purchasing it, it was
25 switching to Charlie Kuehn and his wife
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1 personally. And so they said the second one
2 - is it the second one? Yeah, it would have
3 been July. So we said fine, another $700.00.
4 And they originally wanted the money that
5 they were giving us for our mortgage to come
6 off the total asking price and we said, no,
7 you have put us out, we're not doing that.
8 So, fine. And we even moved it back another
9 week because it was July 24th. So one week
10 before our closing again we get another call
11 that says they need to push it back again.
12 So now we're closing in August.
13 Q. August of?
14 A. 2013.
15 Q. So basically they strung you along for eight
16 months?
17 A. Correct.
18 Q. Now they being Woolston and dealing with your
19 realtor?
20 A. Yes, Four States. And in this time period
21 Woolston is also no longer working for - some
22 time in this grouping Woolston no longer
23 works for Pro 100. And I don't know who he
24 goes to work for.
25 BY MR. BRIGANCE: And at the same
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1 time,
2 too --
3 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) He stayed on your deal,
4 though?
5 A. Yes, he stayed on our deal.
6 BY MR. BRIGANCE: North of our house
7 is a corner lot. He had already secured that
8 one and paid for that one.
9 BY MR. LORAINE: Woolston?
10 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Correct. Everybody
11 completely down our street was completely
12 secured.
13 A. It was us, it was us at 1812 Delaware and I
14 don't know Gale's, but Gale's was at 19th and
15 New Jersey. Those are the only two
16 properties that are still - that they hadn't
17 purchased. And actually --
18 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) As of August?
19 A. As of August. Everyone else is closed, and
20 as a matter of fact everyone down 18th
21 Street, everyone between 18th and 19th and
22 Delaware and actually the property directly
23 across from us has also been sold to the
24 City.
25 Q. Now have any of the homes been ripped down by
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1 that point?
2 A. No, there was no homes to rip down.
3 Q. They were already gone?
4 A. They were already gone.
5 Q. Were they were cleaned up, though?
6 A. Yes.
7 BY MR. BRIGANCE: While all this
8 we're going through we're stuck, we can't
9 back out because we're trapped because you
10 already have everybody else around us boxed
11 in. It was one of those no reason to sit
12 there and fight with it.
13 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: We're basically
14 stuck.
15 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Now do you want
16 hearsay?
17 BY MR. LORAINE: Absolutely.
18 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Okay, Alisha works
19 with Gale, which what is his last name?
20 A. Okay. I work with a gentleman by the name of
21 Gale Wade. He is the last hold out that was
22 on 19th and New Jersey.
23 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) How do you spell his last
24 name?
25 A. W-A-D-E.
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1 Q. Do you have a phone number for Mr. Wade?
2 A. I can get one for you. I see him every day.
3 Q. I would like you to make contact with Mr.
4 Wade and possibly send him down here tomorrow
5 if at all possible.
6 A. Okay.
7 Q. Probably about 3:00, yeah, about 3:00.
8 A. Okay, Gale, at this time - well, in this
9 whole crazy negotiations that we're having
10 Woolston is also - actually Woolston didn't
11 even know how to get ahold of him, didn't
12 have a phone number. He showed up at the new
13 house knocking on his door.
14 Q. At Wade's house?
15 A. At Wade's house interested in selling,
16 because he wasn't going to sell either. But
17 they were in kind of the same thing,
18 negotiations and everything, and Gale wanted
19 $45,000.00 for his property because he had a
20 75x200 lot and he knew it was going to go
21 commercial and he didn't want to pay - he
22 didn't want to be
23 paid --
24 Q. Residential?
25 A. -- residential when he knows it's going to go
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1 commercial. Because he has already had a
2 previous experience where he sold something
3 residential, they turned around and redid it
4 as commercial, so he was not doing it again.
5 Q. Was this still zoned?
6 A. It was all still zoned residential.
7 Q. So Mr. Wade, what else can you tell me about
8 Mr. Wade?
9 A. Wade ran into Gary Box at the Elks Lodge one
10 night and Box asked Wade have you come to an
11 agreement and he says, no, we're at a
12 $5,000.00 difference. I want $45,000.00,
13 they want $40,000.00. He says don't worry
14 about it, I'll get it taken care of. This
15 was a Saturday night. The very next day Wade
16 got a call from Woolston and told him he'd
17 been ordered to give him what he had been
18 asking for.
19 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Which we thought
20 was odd because he doesn't work for that guy,
21 he works for Four State Homes. How do you
22 know what - just didn't make sense to us.
23 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) Who was Box working for?
24 A. Gary Box works for Wallace-Bajjali.
25 Q. So Bajjali basically ordered Woolston to get
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1 the extra five grand?
2 BY MR. BRIGANCE: But on behalf of
3 Four State Homes. Four State Homes is the
4 one that secured the property, but why are
5 they --
6 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) So it was finally sold to
7 Four State Homes?
8 A. They closed - we closed - we got a call - all
9 the TIF money and everything was sold and
10 basically the City got the influx of all
11 their money and we got a phone call and said
12 can you do this, can you close on your house
13 the 9th or the 11th.
14 Q. Of when?
15 A. Sorry, the 9th or the 12th of August, which
16 do you want, and Dustin said let's do the
17 9th, so 8:00 a.m. August 9th, 2013 we walked
18 in and signed our papers and sold our house.
19 Q. And you got your money?
20 A. And got our money.
21 Q. And the same thing happened to Wade?
22 A. No, Wade, when he originally signed his
23 papers he had - he signed them I think May is
24 when he finally signed his agreement and he
25 wasn't even going to close until September
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1 and he ended up closing in September. He had
2 like a long drawn out --
3 Q. 2013?
4 A. 2013, yes.
5 BY MR. BRIGANCE: And he was content
6 with that because it was just land.
7 A. It was just land.
8 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) So your contention is that
9 Woolston was still a City Councilman?
10 A. Correct.
11 Q. And he was negotiating on behalf originally
12 of Pro 100 for some mystic client?
13 A. Correct.
14 Q. And then he talked about selling your
15 property to Kuehn personally?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. And that didn't happen and eventually the
18 property was sold to?
19 A. Well, --
20 Q. Who did you sign it over to?
21 A. We signed it over to Charlie Kuehn is who
22 originally bought it, but they own Four State
23 Homes.
24 BY MR. BRIGANCE: But CART specified
25 them directly, not Four State Homes.
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1 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) And obviously Bajjali
2 ordered Kuehn to pay you an extra $5,000.00?
3 A. For Wade's property, yes. And we also
4 thought it was really weird when Kuehn came
5 to look at the house to possibly move it that
6 two people from Wallace-Bajjali showed up
7 with him.
8 Q. Do you know who they were?
9 A. It's a lady, and I think her last name is
10 Love, and the other gentleman from Joplin who
11 is not David Box. I could not tell you what
12 his name is.
13 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Bonnie might be
14 able to.
15 A. Bonnie might be able to remember who they
16 were because that's the first - when we saw
17 them walk in we're like what are they doing
18 here and why are they involved?
19 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) So Wallace-Bajjali
20 basically wound up with all the property?
21 A. Our house is still - as far as I know our
22 house is still being owned by Charlie Kuehn,
23 but every bit of the property around it is
24 owned by the City.
25 Q. Okay. So what else? Did Woolston ever
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1 suggest to you that you would be condemned?
2 Did that word ever come up?
3 A. No, he never said anything about condemned.
4 Q. He said you would be in a commercial area?
5 BY MR. BRIGANCE: He said across the
6 street from us could look into become a
7 grocery store. He never flat said our house
8 would be this or that. Now in CART meetings
9 that we had, though, when talking to Gary Box
10 he said that 18th Street to the south is
11 going to be bought up and this is proposed
12 laid out, our house is gone and it's shopping
13 center and parking lots and things like that.
14 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) So you're saying Woolston
15 didn't tell you the truth?
16 A. Correct.
17 Q. He didn't disclose everything to you?
18 A. No.
19 Q. Any other complaints about Woolston?
20 BY MR. BRIGANCE: The only thing that
21 I feel is that throughout this whole series,
22 and I'm limited to what we know because we're
23 not following around with him and knowing
24 everything, he has to make money at this, I
25 understand that.
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1 BY MR. LORAINE: You mean Woolston?
2 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Yes.
3 BY MR. LORAINE: Why does he have to
4 make money?
5 BY MR. BRIGANCE: His job is a
6 realtor therefore his job is to sell houses
7 and sell property and things like that so I
8 understand that in that regard.
9 BY MR. LORAINE: But you knew he was
10 also on the City Council at the same time,
11 didn't you?
12 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: Yes, that's kind
13 of what pissed us off.
14 BY MR. BRIGANCE: That was the
15 initial, but we had nobody else express
16 interest in our property, we don't want to
17 still get stuck behind the eight ball and
18 we've got to sell and we've got to get out of
19 our property.
20 BY MR. LORAINE: So that did impress
21 you with the fact that he was going to be a
22 buyer somehow or he was going to make it
23 happen?
24 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Yes.
25 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) That impressed you. And
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1 when I say impressed you, you were left to
2 believe that he would take care of this
3 problem, get it resolved, and you would not
4 be stuck in a commercial area? I mean you
5 knew that at some point because he had told
6 you?
7 A. We knew that basically if we did not sell now
8 we would be stuck living with the library,
9 all the commercial, everything else if we
10 didn't sell. We were basically be living in
11 a construction zone for however long it takes
12 to build the property and then we'd be stuck
13 with the commercial stuff to do with it, yes.
14 Q. You thought it was inappropriate for a City
15 alderman to be acting in this fashion on your
16 purchase?
17 A. Yes, because he had prior knowledge to the
18 fact that the library and other stuff was
19 going there so he is involved with all the
20 property around it. He basically is
21 monopolizing all the property around it by
22 selling it to this one person or being the
23 broker for this one person, and he's been
24 using almost his prior knowledge.
25 Q. And he's controlling the prices?
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1 A. Correct, he's also controlling the prices.
2 Q. Do you believe that if you would have held
3 out you now would be able to sell your
4 property for more?
5 A. No.
6 BY MR. BRIGANCE: As far as to him or
7 to somebody else?
8 BY MR. LORAINE: To anybody.
9 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: No.
10 BY MR. BRIGANCE: I do not believe
11 anybody else would have come in and bought it
12 because --
13 BY MR. LORAINE: That the City would
14 have, the City would have been forced to buy
15 it.
16 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Correct.
17 BY MR. LORAINE: Then it's a
18 condemnation matter.
19 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Correct.
20 BY MR. LORAINE: You're aware of that
21 word condemnation, aren't you?
22 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Yes.
23 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: Yes.
24 BY MR. LORAINE: And you were aware
25 with them?
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1 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: Yes, that's kind
2 of why we felt stuck that basically if we
3 didn't sell now we weren't going to get what
4 we wanted later.
5 BY MR. BRIGANCE: You kind of take
6 the crumbs and you run or you try to get a
7 little piece of the pie and run that way.
8 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: Because like I
9 said by the time we signed our papers the
10 City owned every bit of the property around
11 us.
12 BY MR. BRIGANCE: But I was with the
13 understanding Woolston is going to make money
14 we sit back and everything we get secondhand
15 as far as to my knowledge. So reading the
16 paper we know that - that was being sold.
17 BY MR. LORAINE: The what?
18 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Coca Cola, used to
19 be on 8th Street down by the flea market
20 area, we knew that property was being sold,
21 okay, and it's funny how - it was a strange
22 coincidence how the next thing you see a
23 little later on in the paper was Four State
24 Homes purchased property right next --
25 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: Dr. Joseph.
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1 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Dr. Joseph which
2 owns Four State Homes has his hand in it.
3 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: He and Four State
4 Homes.
5 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) Who is Dr. Joseph?
6 A. You're going to learn a lot. What's that
7 building, the Griffon Building, he owns that
8 building and I think he owns the majority of
9 the buildings from on down to flea market,
10 all of that. The Coca Cola was going to be
11 sold so I think Joseph ended up buying all
12 that property and somehow Wallace-Bajjali is
13 involved because that's the property that
14 they want to put the post office.
15 BY MR. BRIGANCE: That got released
16 that was to be for the post office, but it's
17 already conveniently owned by --
18 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: Somebody else.
19 BY MR. LORAINE: Dr. Joseph?
20 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Correct, which also
21 is Four State Homes.
22 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: Has his hand in
23 Four State Homes.
24 BY MR. LORAINE: Okay. Anything else
25 you know?
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1 BY MR. BRIGANCE: And just as a
2 citizen driving down the tornado's path from
3 32nd Street east/west, 20th Street, 26th
4 Street --
5 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: Four State Homes.
6 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Four State Homes is
7 buying up property galore down there and
8 that's conveniently where - that whole
9 corridor is also all Wallace-Bajjali is
10 looking at changing, I mean asking the City
11 for one thing or another and it's all popping
12 up with Four State Homes, Four State Homes.
13 BY MR. LORAINE: What does Dr. --
14 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: He had a hand in
15 it. I don't know, he's almost I guess like
16 an investor.
17 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) Well, you know that Charlie
18 owns Four States?
19 A. Yes, Charlie owns Four State Homes.
20 Q. That's Charlie Kuehn?
21 A. Yes.
22 Q. So we now think that they're holding property
23 for Wallace-Bajjali to buy?
24 A. Yes.
25 Q. Okay. So they're accumulating property?
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1 A. They're accumulating property that eventually
2 is sold to the City or somehow --
3 BY MR. BRIGANCE: But how do they
4 know which - but as you drive from 20th
5 Street in that tornado path Four State Homes
6 signs went up and there were Wallace-Bajjali
7 and you don't see hardly any Four State Homes
8 signs. Now the other maybe you can is
9 there's more available there because
10 everybody is trying to sell off and get out
11 while they can or like that, so you have that
12 argument, but other things, too, there was
13 real estate, I mean land, purchased land and
14 stuff, but why are they all Four State Homes?
15 That was kind of weird. And then we know on
16 our side who represents Four State Homes what
17 else is there going on in this area or that
18 area where you see a Four State Homes sign
19 that is the pipeline that somebody is trying
20 to buy it beforehand.
21 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) What was the doctor's last
22 name?
23 A. Joseph.
24 Q. Dr. Joseph, okay.
25 A. And there's about eight of them so just to
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1 let you know.
2 Q. You don't know who the rest of them are?
3 A. It should be Michael, I think is who it is is
4 Michael Joseph, then there's also Richard
5 Joseph.
6 Q. Who?
7 A. Richard, Sr. and Jr.
8 Q. Okay, who else?
9 A. Those are the only ones that I know. Those
10 are the only three men.
11 Q. So we've got four, but we think there's eight
12 though, huh? How do you know that?
13 A. I've grown up in this entire town. My father
14 was a well known doctor.
15 Q. Your dad is a doctor?
16 A. Yes.
17 Q. What's your dad's name?
18 A. Dr. Dandridge.
19 Q. Is he still alive?
20 A. Yes, he is.
21 Q. So somehow you know that there's eight
22 members?
23 A. Well, no, I'm not for sure. I just know that
24 there are - there's a lot of Josephs.
25 Q. But you know that there's more than one owner
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1 to --
2 A. Four State Homes. No, I don't know.
3 Q. So we know Joseph at least?
4 A. I just know that any time you see a Four
5 State Homes property there is a Joseph
6 somehow.
7 Q. And Charlie?
8 A. Yes, Charlie is the one that I know owns Four
9 State Homes.
10 BY MR. BRIGANCE: With this whole
11 thing we figured out Four State Homes buyer.
12 We found out through Mr. Bass that Four State
13 Homes bought his property. This is odd.
14 Here and there and then find out that -
15 assuming they're going to be ones that got
16 our property until we find out later on that,
17 yes, we were, in fact, correct, but just the
18 whole whenever you wash your hands of all
19 this stuff it was like - and we asked them
20 how do you vote in the neighborhood meeting
21 we had, how can you be a realtor and purchase
22 property inside of Springfield when you might
23 know what's going on, but he says I abstained
24 the votes that affects zoning and stuff like
25 that. But I understand his part on that, but
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1 he's going in, buying the property, putting
2 money in his pocket. And I understand he has
3 to make money, I am not disputing that in the
4 slightest, but that's why you buy somewhere
5 away from it just to make sure your hands
6 stay clean or - and if he hasn't done
7 anything unethical. To me he's an unethical
8 person just because you know too much was
9 going back.
10 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) You don't know if it's
11 illegal?
12 A. Yes.
13 Q. But you don't know how much he's getting on
14 the side or if he is?
15 A. Correct.
16 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Correct. But as a
17 City Councilman I would assume he had a
18 little window, snippets here or snippets
19 there or what's going on and what's not going
20 on, and it just looks - and whenever we heard
21 the investigation being focused on Dr.
22 Rosenberg we were like, good, somebody else
23 has raised enough concerns to where it's not
24 just us that feels this way.
25 BY MR. LORAINE: And I assume there
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1 are people in your community, your old
2 neighbors that feel this way?
3 BY MR. BRIGANCE: From 18th Street to
4 the south has all been purchased, okay? Now
5 from house it goes back 200 feet, 175 feet,
6 back behind those, those houses were
7 approached, some of those were. One of those
8 neighbors directly behind us, his last name
9 is Burton, he was never approached.
10 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: Those two were
11 never approached.
12 BY MR. BRIGANCE: But Cupp --
13 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: No, you have
14 Palmer and then Cupp. And Cupp has been
15 approached I think directly from
16 Wallace-Bajjali because she has property from
17 18th almost all the way to 20th. She is the
18 one property that stands in the way from the
19 City owning --
20 BY MR. LORAINE: And what's her name?
21 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: Her last name is -
22 her name is Katie Cupp and she's almost 90
23 years old.
24 BY MR. BRIGANCE: So to say that as
25 far as anybody else down on 18th Street as
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1 far as to the best of our knowledge none of
2 them have received any letters.
3 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) Who is Bryant? Have you
4 ever heard the name Bryant, B-R-Y-A-N-T?
5 A. Bryant? Huh-uh.
6 Q. Last name.
7 BY MR. BRIGANCE: It clips in there,
8 but I don't know where for sure.
9 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) Is there anything else you
10 want to tell me?
11 A. I don't know because I know his name Irish
12 (inaudible).
13 BY MR. BRIGANCE: And I don't know if
14 it's kind of weird, too, on the corner of
15 Murphy and 20th Street where they kind of
16 make like it a little triangle ledge and the
17 doctor that had purchased that was going to
18 put --
19 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: Going to put up
20 her practice there.
21 BY MR. BRIGANCE: She was going to
22 put up her practice there. And that
23 property, I don't think he had a for sale
24 sign on it.
25 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: It never had a for
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1 sale sign, but --
2 BY MR. BRIGANCE: And she purchased
3 it and shortly after she purchased it
4 everything I got from Box was nothing was
5 going on further on that side, that corner
6 there, just like the little park and
7 everything like that.
8 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: But it did go to
9 get rezoned and it did get that, but past
10 that nothing has happened.
11 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) Rezoned residential?
12 A. Commercial.
13 Q. And that would have come before the City?
14 A. The City.
15 Q. And what is her name?
16 A. I couldn't tell you what her name is, I'm
17 sorry.
18 Q. It's a doctor and does she have an office
19 there now?
20 A. No, there's nothing there.
21 Q. But it is zoned commercial?
22 A. As far as I know it is zoned commercial. And
23 there's a few other bits along 20th Street
24 that have been put up to rezone.
25 Q. And all of those votes, you wonder about how
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1 Mr. Woolston would have voted?
2 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Correct, because as
3 of now the way we understand it from the -
4 there's a church there on 20th Street and
5 that church all the way west towards
6 Connecticut is all City property now.
7 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: Well, it is either
8 between City property and Four State Homes
9 property, somewhere in between all that.
10 BY MR. LORAINE: Or Wallace-Bajjali?
11 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: Or
12 Wallace-Bajjali, yes.
13 BY MR. LORAINE: Okay. Anything
14 else?
15 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: Not that I can
16 think of.
17 BY MR. BRIGANCE: We'll get a phone
18 number for you for --
19 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: I need Gale's
20 number. He's on vacation. I think he went
21 on vacation today. I can still get you the
22 number, though.
23 BY MR. LORAINE: Gale Bass?
24 BY MRS. BRIGANCE: No, Gale Wade.
25 He's the 19th and Jersey.
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1 BY MR. LORAINE: The other name was?
2 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Bonnie Wright.
3 BY MR. LORAINE: And you'll call both
4 of those for me, give them my number?
5 BY MR. BRIGANCE: Correct.
6 Q. (By Mr. Loraine) Let me give you a card. I
7 would particularly be interested to talk to
8 Bonnie, if she will, because she'll have some
9 insight, but I don't know whether she will or
10 she won't. Here are a couple of my business
11 cards and if you can call me at that number
12 or I can give you my cell number if you'll
13 take that down. Is that on there, the cell
14 number?
15 A. No.
16 Q. I probably shouldn't be giving that. If you
17 can just call that number, you know, that
18 would be fine. The 573 number there,
19 348-8909.
20 A. Yes, that's on here.
21 Q. There is a number - we knew that, didn't we?
22 There's a City number, but I don't know the
23 number of it yet.
24 A. I only know the City Attorney's number.
25 Q. Yes, that will work. Okay, thank you for
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1 coming in.
2 A. You're welcome.
3 Q. I'm going to hand you back Exhibit #26. This
4 is the Contract for Sale on the residential
5 property we've talked about earlier and it
6 appears to be 7 pages long. Do you agree with
7 that?
8 A. Yes.
9 Q. Marked #26?
10 A. Yes.
11 Q. This concludes this. I appreciate you coming
12 by.
13 (SWORN STATEMENT CONCLUDED)
14
15
16
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REPORTER'S CERTIFICATE
STATE OF MISSOURI
ss.
COUNTY OF JASPER
I, SHARON K. ROGERS, Certified Court Reporter in the
State of Missouri, do certify that pursuant to the
foregoing Stipulation the witness came before me on the
14th day of November, 2013, was duly sworn by me, and was
examined. That examination was then taken by me by
steno-mask recording and afterwards transcribed; said Sworn
Statement is subscribed by the witness as hereinbefore set
out on the day in that behalf aforesaid and is herewith
returned.
I further certify that I am not counsel, attorney, or
relative of either party, or clerk, or stenographer of
either party or of the attorney of either party, or
otherwise interested in the event of this suit.
_________________________
SHARON K. ROGERS, CCR-650
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