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    Zero Limits Retreat: Audio 5

    Jan. 19 21, 2007

    Hosted by Dr. Joe Vitale & Dr. Ihaleakala Hew Len

    Joe: In Mabels book, The Easiest Way, there is a quote that was just handed to me

    by Susan at the top, its from Dan Millman, Love is the sword of the soldier,

    wherever it cuts it gives life, not death. Thank you.

    What kind of question do you have...comments, thoughts, feedback?

    Female: I have got a question...its just.... My comment is this is...its fantastic. I am

    just having a WONDERFUL time! Thank you.

    Joe: Youre WELCOME! Thank YOU!

    Audience: [Clapping]

    Joe: Oh, were getting applause! [Chuckling]

    Cindy: Ill share something.

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    Joe: Yes?

    Cindy: I would say that the biggest thing that has helped me so far was when Dr. Len

    showed yesterday the diagram, so that when the guy was up here talking about

    RAGE, I would visualize the diagram and I was sending Thank you. I love

    you, down to the MEMORY, THEN UP to The Divine; where before I could

    go sending it right to The Divine, but this feels CLEANER or more

    HEALING to me to send the I thank you. Thank you. I love you down TO

    the memory, UP to The Divine, and then I felt the CLEARING, the

    CLEANSING!

    Dr. Hew Len: See, what happens, you CAN NOT GO to The Divine directly.

    Cindy: You can not what?

    Dr. Hew Len: You cant go to The Divine DIRECTLY, its NOT possible. I guess the

    message of Jesus is before you can go to The Divine you have to take the

    MOAT out of your own eye. Anybody heard of that?

    Audience: Yeah! Yeah! Yes!

    Dr. Hew Len: You have to take the moat out of your OWN eye, so you CAN see God. So,

    the question is, Where is the moat?

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    Audience: Memories.

    Dr. Hew Len: In your subconscious.

    Female: Yeah.

    Dr. Hew Len: So, you have to go through THERE. So, the subconscious is really the

    BRIDGE home; which means that when you do this cleaning you are using

    the total resources of your being: Divine Creator; The Spirit which is the

    Super Conscious; the Conscious Mind which is the Intellect; and the

    Subconscious, which is the physical part of mind.

    So, when you do this cleaning, you are using the ENTIRE resources of your

    being. Who am I? I am Divine Creator, the Super Conscious, the Conscious,

    and the Subconscious. So, every problem that you have is located in the

    subconscious, so you HAVE to go through there. You cant go directly to The

    Divinity.

    Cindy: Maybe...thats probably why I was feeling a lot more HEALING when you

    shared that with the diagram, go down to the memory, which is the

    Subconscious.

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    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. See what happens though is the REASON that you are able to do that is

    somebody did their cleaning...all of a sudden you go, Oh! I can do that! So,

    you want to thank whoever in the room that did their cleaning. So, now what

    happens is there is no future for memory, you know? Yeah. Okay.

    So, I am going to do why you got this. I am HOPING that you are going to

    take this home with you?

    Cindy: Oh, yeah!

    Dr. Hew Len: If you lost it [Chuckling].

    Male: [Chuckling]

    Dr. Hew Len: But, the story is you cant TALK somebody out of something, you cant

    TALK to them out of it, you HAVE TO ERASE IT IN YOU, because once

    you erase it in you, you erase it in them.

    No talking is going to...like David said, No talking is going to change

    anybodys mind.

    You THINK you did. You manipulated, but you aint going to change it.

    Theyre going to come back and HIT you!

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    This is why when you go into a widow therapist who think that YOU are the

    problem, the therapy is LONG [chuckle]. I mean, it just goes on and on and I

    dont want to seem CADDY, but I need to...I AM going to be caddy, the...like

    lawyers...I am being caddy...

    Audience: [Some chuckling]

    Dr. Hew Len: ...like lawyers and psychologists, theyll make money off of you because you

    are not willing to be 100% responsible. They cant help you. When you go to

    seize them, you are actually helping yourself help THEM! I think its

    WONDERFUL, dont you? So, youve got to get that.

    Now, if YOU get an inspiration to go to a massage therapist, you are getting

    that inspiration because there is something that you have to clear with that

    massage therapist, but that massage therapist aint going to do anything for

    YOU...only GOD can do that!!

    Somebody said to me this morning, But I go to see massage therapists.

    I said, Lucky YOU!

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    But if you are going to see a massage therapist so that they can help you, you

    are doing it backwards! So youve got to...if you are a massage

    therapist...GREAT!!! Then you can clean up the stuff BEFORE they show up!

    I have a massage therapist friend in Hawaii, she...for about a year or so, she

    didnt quite know what to do with herself. So, shed do her cleaning, the

    person would show up and theyd kind of have coffee! I mean, that is the way

    that it would unfold!

    Audience: [Laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: They were having their coffee and she would be going, I should do

    SOMETHING, because Im going to charge her. Yeah?

    Jillian: [Chuckling]

    Dr. Hew Len: Essentially, at SOME POINT, she got comfortable with that.

    So, in her mind, she said, Well, Ive GOT to do something!

    So, she went to her regular routine, but it was already done! But, she had to

    go...I dont know what massage therapists do, I am not trained to do that! But,

    can you imagine? You have already done it with God! So, its so much easier

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    to work with. Whoever you are and whatever you are up to, its SO MUCH

    EASIER to work from Zero.

    The message is, BLESSED are the PURE in heart for they shall see

    God.

    So, if you are a massage therapist coming from Zero, from a pure heart, the

    person who is coming to see you will just FALL IN LOVE with you...AND

    theyll SEND MORE PEOPLE!!! I had a psychologist friend of mine who

    was concerned that if she did the cleaning, NOBODY would show up. Well,

    she did the cleaning and she had more people than she could handle, and she

    decided because she could handle them QUICKER and FASTER, she now

    only has a practice of three days instead of five! She spends a lot of time over

    seas. I dont know what she does overseas.

    Okay. So, heres zero. This is...when we are at the pure heart we are all

    family. This is family [chuckling]: the carpet, the table, the chairs, the air that

    you breathe, because you were willing to LET GO of whatever it is that

    creates problems.

    Okay, here you are. So, now, for whatever reason and I dont know why, there

    are parts I dont know why, Divinity decided to create my friend here. Okay?

    Why? I have no idea. Okay?

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    So, decided to create, so OUT OF NOTHING I AM the Eye. I come forth

    from the VOID into LIGHT. So, now, shes created as a Light being. So,

    heres the Divinity, I am going to put D.C. over The Infinite. Now, The

    Infinite decides in creating her, hes going to create her Spirit. Hes going to

    give THAT to her. This is called the Super Conscious. Then, decides for

    whatever reason I dont know to give her a part of her in which she will have

    CHOICE. This is called the Intellect. This is the Conscious Mind. The

    Conscious Mind, the ONLY purpose of this conscious mind is CHOICE. The

    Divinity says, You can go MY way or you can go to hell. Im sorry about

    that, but I want to be clear so that when I leave I know that I was clear. Yeah?

    So, heres where the CHOICE is.

    If you want to be more POETIC, this is the choice that Shakespeare says

    through Polonius who is...I forget, inHamlet, where Polonius says, To be or

    not to be...free! To be or not to be...FREE!

    So, THIS part of HER has the Intellect is which she can choose to be free, like

    you, like me. Okay? Then, theres a part HERE called a subconscious and that

    subconscious holds all of the doo doo since the creation of TIME!

    MOUNTAINS!!

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    This is what you hear, people like Jesus, Mohammed Ali, they say, You can

    move MOUNTAINS! because your mountains is just plain old

    memories!!

    YOU CAN MOVE MOUNTAINS if you are WILLING!

    But, HERE is where the problem is. This is what Im going to call to make it

    ease the child in you, but this is REALLY the physical part of the mind. I am

    going to concentrate on THIS, because its so important for YOU to be

    AWARE OF THAT.

    So, lets say...lets say that shes operating and if shes operating from that, we

    are operating! So, lets say she operates from memory. So I am going to draw

    it here, so that you can see the simplicity of it. So, when HER memory plays,

    OUR memory plays. SO, we HEAR with that memory! We dont hear from

    Zero. Its the memory whos TALKING!!

    So, when my friend over there gets ANGRY, its NOT HIM that God created.

    Zero. Its the memory playing and the Subconscious simply MIMICS that! So,

    its not HIM. Hes PERFECT. You are all perfect. What is NOT perfect is the

    DATA and the information. Thats what youve got to work on.

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    So, not only do you HEAR it, so in your cells, but your cells are PEFFECT.

    Your body is just an effect of these things going on. Its not REAL! Its hard

    to...thats a HARD concept!!

    Somebody will say, Well, I can touch it!

    You can ONLY touch it because you have a memory of touching it. Not only

    do you HEAR, but you SEE, with your memory. As I did yesterday, I dont

    know what I did with it, I put my dark glasses on and thats how we see most

    people. We see them out of shades. We dont see them as God sees them,

    unless we take our glasses off, called memory and then see them perfectly. So,

    you SEE them!

    Now, I am coming back to the rage thing my Irish friend was talking about.

    So, you have a FEELING, but your heart is broken. This is the EMOTION in

    you: the ANGER, the resentment and the hate. I HAVE TO tell you the truth

    of it. Its a hatred for yourself and God, because you are against yourself! You

    were created perfect, but you have, in fact, put up a barrier against yourself

    and God. But taking it DOWN, WOW!!! I mean, its just beautiful to take it

    down.

    Then, of course, the thing that REALLY gets us into trouble, as Mabel says, is

    we speak from memory and what do the Indians say about speaking? You

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    speak with a forked tongue and they will KNOW IT! You may be...I may be

    talking during my speak out of a forked tongue, she may not be consciously

    aware of it, but she will KNOW it at the more deeper level that I am selling

    her bullshit. Theyll KNOW IT! You cant NOT know it! The whole Universe

    knows it when you speak this stuff and the whole Universe WEEPS.

    One day, I got on an airplane and they put me on first class. This was a low

    airline.

    I go, Wow, big deal, huh?

    Audience: [Some chuckling]

    Dr. Hew Len: Ive never been on first class, a low airline, big deal! Just as I am sitting down,

    I hear this sigh! The sigh goes like this [sound of a big sigh]. Have you ever

    heard that sigh before?

    Audience: Yeah.

    Dr. Hew Len: What does that sigh say to us? When you sigh what is the sigh saying?

    Female: I am exhausted.

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    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. I feel like, God, I am over whelmed! Wow!

    So, I am cleaning now, because thats a memory! I am hearing something, the

    sigh, and I said to the sigh [chuckling], Whats happening?

    This little plane, 737, said to me, Im tired. [Pause]

    Audience: [Loud Laughter]

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah!!

    Audience: [Laughing]

    Female: Thats great!

    Dr. Hew Len: Now, I am on the airplane!!

    Audience: [Laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: I did my cleaning! But, I am on the airplane. I go, Oh! Now, if you dont

    remember one of those airplanes, the whole shell of it blew off!!

    Male: Right!

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    Female: Yeah.

    Dr. Hew Len: So, Im on that...that came up and I went, Oops! So, now, another plane is

    sighing. So, I am beginning to do my cleaning and I had a conversation with

    the airplane.

    I said, Please tell me what it is that I need to make amends for?

    This is the story of the airplane: We NEVER get any rest! When we are not

    carrying passengers, we are carrying cargo...twenty-four hours a day! But,

    you guys get on the airplanes. You dont talk to the airplanes. Boy! You

    should get on there and before you go, you should TALK to them.

    Hello!

    [Chuckling] I know it sounds crazy, huh? I mean, you are sitting in the

    lounge, like I always do, I just...and I am talking to the airplane and I am

    getting, Whoa! I tell you whats on the airplane what I need to clean up, the

    CONNECTION is ENORMOUS! We ABUSE them! Now, is that wrong or

    right? No, no wrong, no right, its just so.

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    You see, we get stuck in Its wrong. Hey, bullshit stuff. Its the way that it

    is! So, now you get to erase it!!

    But this poor airplane [chuckling] twenty-four hours a day flying passengers

    and it was tired! You know, you dont want somebody working for you whos

    TIRED on YOUR shift!

    Woman: [Laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah! Like mothers who are overwhelmed sometimes by having a new baby!

    So, its like, you get to like Mabel, you get to talk to things. You get to talk

    to the baby, I LOVE you! You get to talk to the babys clothing. I love

    you. You talk to EVERYTHING about this. Boy, you talk to the clothing on

    your back, because I remember having a client come in, she was going to go

    for an interview for a job that would pay for something like a million and a

    half dollars. I never SAW that kind of money before. [Chuckle]

    So, I am sitting there, doing my cleaning, and I hear the CLOTHES say to

    me...now this is her clothes saying, We are not the right clothes for this

    interview! I am going....

    Audience: [Laughter]

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    Dr. Hew Len: I mean, really! I mean, its CRAZY! You go, Uh-oh! So, you begin to take

    the responsibility [chuckle] and you begin the CLEANING. As I cleansed, her

    clothes CHANGED in front of me. I mean, it TOOK ON a NEW fashion.

    Now, I dont want to tell you what the clothes was telling me, unless you

    come and see me in a break, but you dont want to hear what the clothes said.

    Audience: [Some laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: I mean, yeah! You are ALWAYS taking responsibility!

    Audience: [Chuckling]

    Dr. Hew Len: You are ALWAYS taking responsibility! Theres [chuckle] NO WAY you

    can get out of it! Because, every time there is a problem, you are always there.

    So, then, even the WORST part here is called thinking. Now, heres what

    thinking looks like. So, heres the soul. This is the bottom here. This is the

    soul right here. This Soul is the Intellect in the child. This is the Soul of the

    mind. So, what happens is, your thinking is...you are ALWAYS engaged. The

    Intellect is always engaged in the data as opposed to letting go, which is

    VERY HARD to do, by the way. I want to let you know, hard to do, hard to

    let go of data. At least, I am not aware of it, so thats why I do my cleaning.

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    But, boy, if I get us stuck in the data, it shows! Thats what my children say.

    Dad, it REALLY shows.

    I say, Okay. Sorry.

    So, now, in order to get to the DATA, which is where the problem is, when

    you do this, when you do the cleaning, it goes downward, DOWN because

    thats where the hurt and pain is. Then it goes down and so gently the cleaning

    rocks this like, sand at the bottom of a river, GENTLY rocks when you say I

    love you and whatever is right will come up...not the whole thing. If the whole

    thing comes up, you get traumatized. It can ONLY handle so much.

    So now it comes up. So, that information goes onto the Spirit part of you

    whod never connected. You know that I showed this non-connection? Its

    always FREE of the Data. So, you have two parts of you always free of the

    data, the Spirit part of you and The Divine. So, now, the information goes up,

    ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.

    Remember the old Biblical invocation, If you knock, I will open. If you

    ask, you will receive.

    So, now comes down the data. This is called Manna, or purifying energy. Its

    on the way down.

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    It comes down spiritually, nothing there to clean, comes down, Oo, all kinds

    of hanging on to clean there!

    Then it comes down and then finally at some point, it erases. So now, you can

    not erase you! So it erases that! It erases that! It erases that!

    You are back to Zero, instantly, as again the Biblically saying supposedly

    Jesus said, Seek ye first the Kingdom [tapping sound twice] and ALL

    else will be added automatically. INSTANTLY you get Inspiration!

    All you said was: I love you; thank you; blue solar water.

    Female: Blue Bell.

    Dr. Hew Len: Blue bell or blue bonnet!

    Woman: [Laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: Thats all you said! [Pause] I mean, its incredible, the SIMPLICITY of this!!

    When I saw it for the first time, I was just mind boggled! As a Ph.D. guy, I

    mean, you struggle [chuckling]. You are SUPPOSED to struggle. When I saw

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    this and this old, short lady when I took the course for the first time, I paid, I

    think THEN it was five hundred bucks, so I come in and I sit down. There

    must have been about forty people. Theres this OLD lady walking around

    and I am WATCHING her.

    Then she says, Do you see this Chinese spirit in the middle of the table?

    I went, Oh, my God! [Chuckling]

    Audience: [Chuckling]

    Dr. Hew Len: During the break, I went home!

    Audience: [Loud Laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: What is she TALKING about? Anyway, so I am at home, I dont have very

    much money. Im at home. Id just finished school and all of that sort of stuff.

    Im at home and theres this pull [chuckle], Go back again.

    I said, No way!

    Go back!

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    So, there was this struggle. Then, finally I said, Ah!! I didnt want to

    struggle. I went back again. I lasted ONLY up til lunch.

    She says, You see these Earth-bound spirits on the ceiling?

    Audience: [Some laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: Im like....

    Of course, you could see some people going, Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    Me, Im going, I only see the ceiling.

    So, I did it THREE times. Finally, the third time I said, Hey! I cant be

    paying five hundred bucks every time! Im just going to hang around.

    This was 1982. So, I hung around and more and more, as she cleaned, so I

    could get clear...so when you clean, David, me, and everybody who had that

    memory will get clearer and clearer and clearer because you were willing to

    be.

    Because, the rest of us, kind of go, Huh?

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    We dont know whats up. So, heres the simplicity of it. When God created

    her and God created her in its exact likeness: pure, free, whole, complete. She

    needs nothing!

    Now, what happens is when the blob comes up she can hang around with that,

    which is called illness, ease, disease, or she can say, Hey, I dont know

    whats going on.

    We dont, you know. So, you have The Divinity erase that. Now you get fed

    your Daily Bread, moment-to-moment, until another [chuckle] opponent

    comes up.

    All you are saying is, I love you. Thank you. Light switch.

    Oh, sorry, thats another class. [Chuckle]

    Women: [Laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: So, any questions about...that I can clean up, because I made you unclear?

    Yes, maam?

    Lady: What is D.C.?

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    Dr. Hew Len: I am sorry?

    Lady: D.C.

    Female: Energy.

    Dr. Hew Len: Can you come up here and show me?

    Now, you should be cleaning, you guys. This is not...this is something to be

    cleaned as opposed to you having an opinion. We want to see what she is

    going to tell us.

    Lady: This initial, D.C.

    Dr. Hew Len: This is called Divine Creator.

    Lady: Divine Creator.

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah!

    Lady: Thats it.

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    Dr. Hew Len: So, we want to THANK HER because we get to clean with that as opposed to

    you guys having an opinion. You are going to have to get this. Now, the

    BEAUTIFUL thing about her being created is SHE is going to give us a

    chance...because for EVERY memory that BUBBLES UP there is one million

    memories that she is not even aware of...per SECOND!!

    If theres fifteen [chuckle] shes this and there are BILLIONS....they are

    MOUNTANOUS. So, I would like to have Joe kind of talk about this that you

    read in the book, that you cited about people...things being happening but

    you are not aware of it.

    Joe: Can I have a minute to read it?

    Female: [Chuckling]

    Dr. Hew Len: Absolutely! So, if I remember, I am going to give you one of the references

    that Joe makes. Its called, User illusion. This user illusion gives you kind

    of a consolation of all of the...not all, I guess, but sufficient number of

    research that deals with consciousness.

    Basically, it says, You dont decide. You are not in control.

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    I mean, thats the basic, bottom line. You are not in control. Its this [chuckle]

    little stuff over here, thats pulling the button. It causes you to choose the

    clothes that you wear, the guys you hang around with, the occupation that you

    are in. [Pause, Chuckle] Sorry, Im just telling you whats in the book.

    So, I am going to leave it here if you are interested in looking at this. So, I am

    just sharing with you that you are not in control. The Greeks call it what?

    What would the Greeks call this? Fate [Chuckling]...F-A-T-E. You are stuck

    with it! The Psalms call it, Hidden Secrets. So, you know, Shakespeare calls

    it different names. Chaucer...so these ANCIENT folks have been telling us

    stuff that we should pay attention to!

    So, any questions that you can ask Joe? Yeah?

    Audience: [Laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: I mean, really...HE KNOWS this stuff! So, anybody have any questions that

    youd like to ask him? Joseph?

    Joe: Do you want to tell me what it was so I can tell him?

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    Female: Well, I was curious about how he moved from the very first time he saw this

    very old woman to being where he is now, thats made him WHO COME, and

    [inaudible]?

    Joe: He spent five years with Morna [Kahuna Morna Simeonna] thinking she was

    crazy every day! Until ONE day he started to see a lot of what SHE was

    seeing.

    Female: [Chuckling]

    Dr. Hew Len: We BOTH got crazy!

    Audience: [Some chuckling]

    Joe: I think this is relevant what you wanted me to read, which I didnt know I was

    going to read it, but this is FROMZero Limits. This is one of the most

    POWERFUL sections in the book, especially for people who have read MY

    book, The Attractor Factoror have seen the movie The Secretand you know

    about the Power of Intention. You know Ive been an evangelist for

    Intentions. Well, guess what I have discovered and look what I read and what

    I wrote!

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    Theres a book called The Wayward Mindby Guy Claxton. IN

    it Claxon writes of experiments that prove our BRAIN tells us

    what to do BEFORE we consciously decide to DO it! In one

    famous experiment, a neuroscientist named Benjamin Levitt

    hooked people up to an EEG machine. It REVEALED what

    was happening in their brains. It revealed that a SURGE of

    brain activity took place BEFORE the person consciously had

    an Intention to do anything, suggesting that the Intention came

    from that persons UNCONSCIOUS and THEN entered their

    conscious mind.

    Claxton writes Levitt discovered that the intention to move

    appeared about a fifth of a second before the MOVEMENT

    BEGAN, but that a SURGE of activity in the brain

    RELIABLY appeared to be about a third of a second BEFORE

    the Intention.

    According to William Irvine in his book, On Desire: Why We

    Want What We Want, experiments such as these suggest that

    our CHOICES are NOT formed in a conscious rational

    manner! Instead, they BUBBLE UP from our UNCONCIOUS

    MIND and when they finally reach the surface of

    consciousness, we take ownership of them.

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    Benjamin Levitt himself, the man who ran the controversial

    and revealing experiments wrote in HIS book,Mind Time, The

    unconscious appearance of an intention to act could NOT be

    controlled consciously. ONLY its FINAL consummation in a

    MOTOR ACT could be consciously controlled.

    In other words, the urge to pick up this book right here may

    SEEM like it came from your conscious choice, but IN

    REALITY your brain FIRST SENT A SIGNAL to pick it up

    and THEN your conscious mind followed with some sort of

    intention, like, This book looks interesting. I think Ill pick it

    up.

    You could have chosen to NOT pick up this book, which you

    would have RATIONALIZED in some OTHER way, but you

    CAN NOT CONTROL THE ORIGIN of the SIGNAL ITSELF

    that was nudging you to take action!

    I go on to say:

    I know this is hard to believe. According to Claxton, NO

    INTENTION is ever hatched in consciousness. NO plan ever

    laid there. Intentions ARE premonitions, icons that flash in the

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    corners of consciousness to indicate what MAY BE ABOUT to

    occur! Apparently a clear intention is NOTHING more than a

    clear premonition. [Pause]

    I hear Wow ALL OVER the place!

    That is one of the most powerful sections in the book, in MY opinion, because

    it was SO eye opening for ME!

    It was saying that what we were calling to be intentions were all of these

    bubbling up from up here and we didnt know if they were coming from

    memory or whether they were coming from inspiration, but were acting like,

    Hey! I have an intention to do something!

    We are taking OWNERSHIP for something that was BUBBLING from

    BELOW!

    Female: Define premonition.

    Joe: Define premonition? Thats seeing whats about to be...whats going to

    happen.

    Female: [Inaudible]

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    Joe: Well, I would say, use whatever word is right for you. I am saying, seeing,

    but knowing, you KNOW, in SOME WAY. You might feel it, you might

    sense it, you might think it; in NLP terms, it might be in some sensory

    awareness, you KNOW it in SOME WAY.

    David said this wonderful line yesterday. I keep quoting you. I want to make

    you a guest speaker this...later on. I may not get this right either, but it was at

    dinner.

    He said that, Life is like this giant long painting thats already painted and

    YOU are IN it and you dont see the painting because you are IN it.

    Audience: Um!

    Joe: Correct? [Pause] Thats profound, too!

    Dr. Hew Len: You can erase the painting!

    Audience: [Chuckling]

    Joe: You can erase the painting!

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    Dr. Hew Len: I would like to come back and deal with her word about the word knowing.

    Joe: Sure!

    Dr. Hew Len: Just so I am clear and you can clean with this, as I ask her. So, I would like

    Clara to tell me what knowing is.

    Clara: Being sure.

    Dr. Hew Len: Only because I want us to work it, to let it go, because...yeah. Im sorry?

    Clara: Being sure, being aware.

    Dr. Hew Len: But, if you are at Zero, lets say you are created pure in heart, would you

    know from that?

    Clara: No!

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. So, where does...?

    Clara: Thats why I dont understand. Ive lost something here.

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    Dr. Hew Len: Its because the memory is playing. The memory is saying for you to ask that

    question.

    Clara: Uh-huh. So, I dont understand. I am lost. Thats [inaudible].

    Dr. Hew Len: But you can ERASE that so that you are NOT lost, you are back to Zero!

    Clara: How?

    Dr. Hew Len: I love you.

    Clara: I love who?

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah.

    Clara: I love WHO?

    Dr. Hew Len: The memory, thats creating you being uncertain.

    Clara: But I dont know whatever that is.

    Dr. Hew Len: You DONT know! Only God knows!! Thats why you are talking to God! I

    dont know whats going on. I am unclear. I love you! But, The Divinity IN

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    YOU knows why you are unclear! See how WONDERFUL this is? But there

    is a LOT of confusion. So, like if SHE IS confused, I am confused. So I am

    CLEANING as she is TALKING TO ME. Whereas, when I used to teach at

    the University, I would try to what?

    Audience: Fix it.

    Dr. Hew Len: EXPAIN IT! You CANT explain this! Its this stuff. Its like you mind is

    FILLED with these CURRENTS...its LOADED with these currents of flow

    and eddies and so on and they CAN NOT be explained!

    When from me, as shes talking to me, I get to see whats going on in this 15

    million per second that I can WORK on and WHY do I want to work on it?

    Because I want to COME HOME to a pure heart so that I can be ONE with

    The Divinity and The Divinity can, in fact, inspire me!

    Clara: So, you have to EMBRACE the memory...you have to LOVE the memory.

    Dr. Hew Len: I am sorry?

    Clara: You wouldnt have to LOVE the memory and thats BASICALLY on your

    part, my part, our part...its a LEAP of faith, because I dont want the

    memory! Its a PAIN IN THE ASS!

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    Dr. Hew Len: Okay.

    Clara: Its complicating my life! I dont want that memory. I want it GONE!!

    Dr. Hew Len: Okay.

    Clara: How can I say that I love it? I dont LOVE it?

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, but you HEARD the idea is, Resist not evil?

    Clara: Yeah.

    Dr. Hew Len: You are resisting it!

    Clara: Okay.

    Dr. Hew Len: So, the WAY that you are RESISITING THIS MEMORY, its pushing you

    and you are pushing back on it and its going to hang around with you forever.

    Clara: So, what do I need to do to not...?

    Dr. Hew Len: I LOVE YOU!!! THATS YOUR ENEMY!!

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    Clara: So, the, I love you, is just a leap of faith? Just SAY it.

    Dr. Hew Len: No, did you hear some people share with you already? That guy over here? He

    didnt just leap of faith! When he got up at two oclock in the morning, he

    was working on stuff that would lead him to a heart attack!

    He didnt get up and say, I am going to take a leap of faith.

    I am just going to [clap] DO IT! Thats the only thing. Just [clap] GO DO

    IT!

    Clara: But, thats what he DID!

    Dr. Hew Len: He did what?

    Clara: He just did it!

    Dr. Hew Len: YES!!

    Clara: Thats a leap of faith!

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    Dr. Hew Len: So, where did THAT come from? You were saying he did a leap of faith. Did

    you ASK HIM that he did a leap of faith?

    Clara: No, but what he said was he just started doing it.

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah!

    Clara: Thats a leap of faith!

    Dr. Hew Len: So, where does THAT come from?

    Clara: The Infinite, I guess.

    Dr. Hew Len: No. But I want to know where.... Its got to come from WITHIN YOU!! There

    is nowhere else it can come from.

    Clara: I know.

    Dr. Hew Len: Thats the point I am trying to make with all of you. Its ALWAYS in YOU!!

    How WONDERFUL to know that! Then you can do something about it, as

    opposed to David and us being STUCK in it, because WE HAVE a lot of stuff

    about what we think about our children. Im WATCHING it! [Chuckling]

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    He and that bubble will go, Yeah, Ive had that one. The memory is talking.

    I get to erase that!

    David: [Chuckling]

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah! But, see, the question is to be or not to be free. [Pause] We can be

    STUCK. We can try to decide in it, but its only this stuff. Now, to be so, I

    want to make sure that I am not sort of haranguing people. If you want to be

    stuck, please be my guest. I mean that truthfully [chuckling]. But, for me, I am

    going to CLEAN, because I dont want to be stuck. What am I cleaning? I

    dont know. I have no idea! I dont WANT to know!

    This idea of going to see psychics, Oh, you are asking for trouble! Doors

    will open and you are going to get sucked in and get stuck!

    So, why not just hang around with yourself, because you cant get away from

    yourself. You are stuck with yourself! So, LOVE YOURSELF!! REALLY

    fall in love with yourself, because you are love. You were created like that.

    Somebody had a question over here. Yes?

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    You know, I am HOPING that you are cleaning on it. You know, you guys,

    because otherwise, when anybody goes who gives a...you have a CHANCE to

    work directly with God. Yes?

    Mathes: Actually, its wasnt a question.

    Dr. Hew Len: Yes.

    Mathes: It was kind of in relationship...

    Dr. Hew Len: Sure.

    Mathes: ...to what came up before. I just had this inspiration to say that it REMINDED

    me of a really beautiful scripture that I will recall in my life.

    Its in Isaiah, I will go before you and make the crooked way straight.

    Dr. Hew Len: [Loud Clap!] Yeah!

    Woman: Yeah, wow!

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    Dr. Hew Len: Otherwise, like hes talking about in the book, you WANDER. [Chuckling]

    This is what is called the Lost Tribe of Israel, the wandering which is just a

    memory. Yes, Maam?

    Maam: Also, it reminded me of yesterday when we were putting the levels that we

    are.

    Dr. Hew Len: Its three states, yeah.

    Maam: The three states. Knowledge is to me, I was playing that with memories and to

    such you used the work Know so to me, that was my big [male coughed]

    memory, rather than inspiration.

    Dr. Hew Len: Good. Good. Now, again, I want you to know again that this room is

    wonderful, as long as its going to clean up our stuff no matter whats going

    on, because we dont know whats going on. Yeah? Yeah. Do you have a

    question for Joe?

    Hes written the book, beautifully! But I have to keep saying that its going to

    throw-up stuff, like its throwing up in this room. This is only a small

    [chuckling] stuff. Wait until it gets out there for millions of people to see? Its

    going to kick up stuff. So, this is great, thats what we want.

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    Man: I have your tape.

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah.

    Joe: We have to have lunch a little earlier today. Its eleven forty-five, because

    they hare a couple of things going on over there. So, if you could go to lunch

    now, which is in the building where you had the supper. ENJOY your lunch

    and Id like to have a group photograph if you dont mind at one fifteen.

    Rodney: Whos going to take it? [our professional photographer is asking].

    Audience: [Laughing]

    Joe: [Chuckling] Hopefully YOU!

    Rodney: I want me IN it!

    All: [Laughing]

    Joe: He wants to be IN it! Well, well have TWO pictures taken, one with him in it

    and one with him not.

    Female: [Inaudible]

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    Joe: At one fifteen, lets have a group photograph, everybody, which is right

    outside. They have an area where they have weddings and its between here

    and where the dinner is. So, all of us can gather there at one fifteen and have a

    quick shot and then come back over here by one thirty. Okay? Its called...the

    Gazebo! The gazebo...is actually where we are going to have the picture at

    one fifteen.

    Dr. Hew Len: Do you want one with me standing in the stands?

    [Break for lunch]

    Joe: This is something I struggled with, meaning in terms of what you all have

    been understanding this weekend, I have been CLEANSING on, because I

    have wanted to understand, meaning I have wanted to control, meaning I

    wanted to be right, meaning Ive wanted to get results, meaning Joes ego has

    been trying to direct this thing, so Joe has wanted to know what the formula is

    to get the results that Joe wants. What Ive had to do is to just keep cleaning,

    and cleaning and cleaning on that and having discussions with him on the

    times that I have been able to get together with Dr. Len.

    So, I get to the point of understanding that the ONLY intention I have is to

    KEEP CLEANING so I am RECEIVING Inspiration when Divinity gives it to

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    me in each moment. Thats the only intention I want and even THAT is an

    intention that is one step removed from The Divinity itself.

    So, I no longer come up with, I want to create such and such. I want to have

    a particular item.

    I want to be HAPPY in each moment. I want to CLEANSE whatever is in the

    way of ENJOYING each moment. As I CLEANSE whats in the way of me

    enjoying each moment, THAT moment is taken care of and the next moment

    is even better than the moment that I was just in.

    I gave a talk a very spontaneous talk that seemed to be inspired to my

    MENTORS at North Star Mentoring. Youve all seen a flyer that went around.

    I have a Miracles Coaching program and two of my coaches, the mentors, are

    BACK here. I went in one day and I told them that I got inspired driving over

    there and I understood that ALL of us are like at a dot on a map and theres

    the dots.

    Its as if you walk in the mall and you see the great big sign which is laying

    out where all of the stores are, theres a dot that say, You are here. So, it

    TELLS you where you are. You are here.

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    But, most of us want to go to another dot. We want to go over here. We are

    over here, turn right with the mike in my hand, you here, you want to go there.

    This is the goal. We want to be at that goal and this was already alluded to.

    We all learned different techniques to get from here to go over there. We

    fight, we struggle, we climb, sometimes we learn The Secret, and sometimes

    we learn the Law of Attraction. We read The Attractor Factor. We find it can

    be a little EASIER going over here. But we still want to leave here to get

    there.

    I have found, in my experience, for me to get here, I have to do NOTHING

    but BE HERE, right where I AM. If I am THERE, TOTALLY THERE, and I

    am almost NEVER totally there, because of all of the memories, because of

    all of the programs, all of the beliefs, these are other words that I would use

    for memories. BECAUSE of all of the other programs or the other beliefs, I

    am NEVER TOTALLY HERE, but what I want to do, if there is a goal or an

    intention at all, I want to be HERE, totally taken care of and enjoying THIS

    moment. As I take care of this moment, I end up at something like this or

    better!

    Because when I am HERE, and I am saying. I want to be over there. Thats

    my goal and my intention.

    I am seeing with blinders on. I am seeing with the limitations of this moment.

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    If I say, Man, itd be great to be up there.

    I might be LIMITING and not seeing at all, whats way up here or even off

    the map! So, how this works for me is if there is any intention at all, its for

    me to keep cleaning, so I am in this moment, so when The Divine kind of

    sends the message through me to go turn left, to go turn right, to write a book,

    to go on a TV show, whatever it happens to be, I am THERE to HEAR IT!!

    Because if I DONT KEEP CLEANING, IM NOT THERE TO HEAR IT

    and then I just struggle, maybe I get there, maybe I dont.

    Theres a great joke in life is that we are all here. We want to get up there.

    When we do get there what do we go through?

    Audience: [Inaudible]

    Joe: We are NOW here, not there at all mentally and we want to go up to another

    dot. As soon as we even see this dot in sight, we start thinking, Wow! Whats

    the next dot?

    I found the point of power is HERE. To have REAL POWER I have to keep

    cleansing so that I am totally here! I find that it is incredibly interesting that

    weve been cleaning since weve learned about it yesterday morning, and now

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    the sky is clear, the sun is out, the water is beautiful, people are out there on

    the water. Weve had our picture taken outside. Now, obviously, the sun

    would have come out at some POINT, but it just seems to me that this is

    relevant that the sun is out NOW. It seems to be a metaphor. [Joe is saying

    this because for the entire week before the event, Texas was hit with an ice

    storm and snow! Texans were asked to stay home, stay off the roads and many

    were off from school and work for 4-5 days].

    A few days ago when the big storm hit and the ice was here and the snow was

    here and Nerissa and I were housebound, like many people, the power went

    out. The house quickly got very, very cold...and I am from up North! I am

    from up in Ohio. I LEFT IT because of reasons like this, for weather like this.

    Audience: [Chuckling]

    Joe: So, it brought up what?

    Audience: Memories.

    Joe: Memories! So, I walked around the house, made sure the critters were okay

    and Nerissa was calmed down, everybody was alright, Im calming down. I

    thought, the ONLY thing I could do was go lay down and cleanse. I went to

    bed, lay down, and I spent maybe TEN MINUTES just saying, I love you. I

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    am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you. I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive

    me. Thank you. Thats ALL I was doing was my meditation. It was MY

    MEDITATION.

    Now, at one point I started to think, Why am I doing this?

    I thought, Am I trying to turn the power on?

    So, I went into a MENTAL thing, Am I trying to turn the power on, because

    if I AM, didnt The Divine turn the power off to begin with? If I am trying to

    request it to be turned back on am I trying to over rule The Divine?

    I was going into a HEAD SPIN here and I thought, Wait a minute! I need to

    Clean ON THAT!!!

    Do you see how the memories just go CRAZY and your mind goes nuts? So, I

    just kept saying, I love you. I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you. Just

    getting back into the gratitude, right back into the flow, KNOWING in MY

    mind that I was thinking, Yeah, I PREFER to have the power on, but I will

    be okay if it needs to be off. I will go with the flow.

    Nerissa said, Arent you scared? at one point.

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    I said, No! People go CAMPING in this kind of weather! They CHOOSE to!

    So, Ill just pretend that I chose to be home when it got cold and the power

    went out!

    I wasnt worried at all! So, I just kept, I love you. I am sorry... and about

    twelve minutes into this, the power comes back on. Now, its real easy for my

    ego to say, I did it! Because I was doing the cleaning, the sun came out.

    Because I was doing the cleaning, the power came on. Did it? I dont know. I

    dont know and it doesnt matter! All I know is I HAVE to keep cleaning. I

    HAVE to keep cleaning because of the statistics I put in my book and the

    statistics that he pointed out in that one book that was circulating here earlier.

    Our conscious mind doesnt have a CLUE what is going on! There is SO

    MUCH DATA underneath the Conscious Mind and so much data that is

    circulating around the room that we dont even see! Some of you have seen

    portals open up. Youve seen a little bit of it here. That, all we can do, is just

    keep cleaning and cleaning and cleaning because there is just so much of it.

    I have actually felt, while writing the book, I thought, Well, you know, once

    this all gets out there, this is a big mistake, right? So, once this all gets OUT

    THERE...

    All: [Laughing]

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    Joe: ...its going to CLEAN the whole world and itll just get easier and easier,

    lighter and lighter and lighter and then he makes a comment like yesterday

    when he says when the people die, if they die with some sort of memory, that

    memory may be stuck on the ceiling in the Emergency Room or stuck in the

    house where they passed away.

    All I could see was, if thats TRUE, I cant imagine ANYBODY except

    maybe three or four people on the ENTIRE history of the WORLD, who

    didnt die with some sort of memory that got left behind...which means, Oh

    my God! Do I have CLEANING TO DO, an OVERWHELMING amount of

    cleaning!!! Hes TOLD me that before, but Ive quite HEARD it and always

    in the back of my mind I thought to myself, Im a good entrepreneur. Ill find

    a way to make the short cut!

    Audience: [Laughing]

    Joe: You tell me what the Hawaiians did for thousands of years and then I will

    Americanize it and I will find the INSTANT.... What is the commercial that

    says to just push the button and all the office supplies show up?

    Audience: The Easy Button.

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    Joe: Yeah, Ill find the EASY BUTTON. Ill push the button and the whole world

    will change! Well, the button is IN ME and what happens is by saying, I love

    you. I am sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you, or even if its just ONE of

    those statements, even if its just, I LOVE you or just, I am SORRY,

    ANY of those statements THAT begins to clean. As its cleaning, I get to be

    back in this moment to the BEST of my ability, never TOTALLY in this

    moment, part of me is already thinking of something else or tomorrow or

    books or whatever else is coming along the way.

    But I am doing my best to be in THIS moment. The MORE I can be in this

    moment, the next moments seem to be more fantastic!! Thats my experience

    of IT!!

    So, I am no longer playing the Intention game. I am no longer playing The

    Secretgame, which is SO ironic and its probably meaningful that I didnt go

    on Oprah to go talk about The Secret, because I would have been the ONE

    guy out of alignment from the rest of the group [chuckling] and I probably

    would have MOUTHED off, like I did onLarry King.

    Craig: [Loud laughing]

    Others: [Laughing]

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    Joe: Id have been the ONE guy who said, You know what? The Secret, thats

    kind of BULL!

    It works for a certain stage, but you can go PAST that! Jack Canfield would

    be looking at me and Oprah would be looking at me and James Ray would be

    looking at me. So, its probably VERY relevant that I just kept CLEANING

    and I wont go on for THAT reason, but I may go on for THIS reason. So,

    thats my answer to the Law of Attraction and so forth. Yeah! GREAT

    question! Another question? Yes?

    Female: Well, I just have an observation that from where I am sitting when I am

    DOING the cleaning, I AM connected with that Zero and THAT is the

    GOAL. Its not cleaning the mountains so much as BEING IN

    CONNECTION and the easiest, best way to do that is by doing the process.

    Joe: I think that theres a little bit of an opportunity for self deception there. I

    UNDERSTAND what you are talking about, at least I THINK I do, but as

    soon as I believe that I am AT Zero, Im not at Zero.

    Audience: Right.

    Joe: I am again, one step removed from it. As soon as I believe that by doing this

    cleansing I am now channeling The Divine or any way that you want to

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    describe that, but I am now letting that inspiration come through, I am

    probably deceiving myself again. What it seems to me that happens is that

    when I am REALLY AT Zero, an Inspiration comes through, I dont have a

    THOUGHT about it, I just DO IT! I just LIVE IT!

    Somebody else might know, Hey, where did that come from? or What

    happened to you with that particular situation?

    Ill go, Oh! I hadnt thought about it, but I just got this WILD idea and I just

    went through and DID it!

    So, I think that theres a PURITY there that happens when you hit Zero, but I

    dont...I dont hit Zero is my understanding. Im waiting for him to JUMP up

    and say something! [Chuckle]

    Audience: [Chuckling]

    Joe: Yes, Cindy?

    Cindy: I was going to say, with your diagram there, with My Space Wedding, I could

    not have set that as a goal, because I did not KNOW...

    Joe: Yes!

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    Cindy: ...even as a possibility in my lifetime to get married in space.

    So, when I was meditating and being at Zero in this Oneness, thats when the

    Inspiration came in Get married in Outer Space.

    I went, Wow! Really? Okay!

    Then took action and to make it...you know.

    Joe: Right.

    Cindy: So, it all came from that Zero.

    Joe: Yeah, I believe that in HER CASE from what I understand, she just kind of

    went to a blank space and waited and the idea bubbled up.

    Cindy: Right.

    Joe: You didnt really ask for it. Right behind you first, Kevin, Craig?

    Craig: Joe, it occurs to me, looking at the two dots there, that even the awareness of

    the higher one is an illusion and is a memory...

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    Joe: Thank you!

    Craig: ...and that there really IS no second dot.

    Joe: Yeah!! Well, part of it, if you are ...

    Craig: Its not there.

    Joe: Why would you choose a dot way out here? Because of some MEMORY that

    says its going to be pretty cool!! Some memory, while you are sitting here,

    you are going, Wow! It would REALLY be great if I had something like

    what I had before or what Ive heard of before and so you project it out here,

    but you are not here. You are actually LISTENING to a MEMORY!! If you

    keep cleaning THAT, that doesnt come important. THIS becomes important

    and the next moment, the next moment, the next moment, the next moment,

    they take care of themselves and they seem to go UP. Yes, right there.

    Male: Just like the last seminar that you had where some people werent here to sell

    it, but the way that you presented the whole things was the sky...laying in a

    field looking up at the sky and all of those clouds there are thoughts...

    Joe: Yes.

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    Male: ...and if you move ALL of them away and theres one cloud, its still a

    thought. You cant get to the point that you realize that you are not the cloud.

    You are the sky. Its almost like a paradox.

    Joe: [Chuckle]

    Male: The more you try to clear it, the more you realize that you are part of it.

    Joe: Well, it IS a paradox! Yes! I HAVE referred...I think I even BEGAN this

    yesterday by saying that if there was a code word for the weekend its white

    board, because thats Zero State, theres nothing on the white board.

    Male: But.

    Joe: We are all here with all kinds of stuff on the white board.

    If we just look at what weve been writing here, I BEGAN it with, There is

    nothing on the white board. Look at how much we put on the white board!

    ALL of THIS and this is supposed to EXPLAIN the white board.

    Audience: [Some chuckling]

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    Joe: All of this is ACTUALLY IN THE WAY of the white board! In some what

    levels, this probably sounds crazy. How many of you think hes crazy?

    Audience: [Chuckling]

    Joe: Come on!! Yeah!! Theres at least a couple that think hes crazy. He thought

    Morna who is the person who taught him Self-Identity, Hooponopono, who I

    talk about IN the bookZero Limits...he thought Morna was crazy for five

    years! He literally DID, back in the 1980s when he had to go in the seminar

    and it cost him $500 each time he went in and he kept LEAVING, because he

    didnt see space beings or things hanging on the walls or whatever it was that

    he said she saw and he DIDNT see. So, on one level I am VERY AWARE

    that this kind of conversation could sound REALLY CRAZY!!! On

    ANOTHER LEVEL, I think its the most important work Ive ever done in

    my life, for me, personally.

    Now, I know SOME of you had some other questions and ONE of them I am

    going to bring up...well, theres one right there. Go ahead.

    Man: Hey, when Dr. Len was talking about psychic stuff?

    Joe: Perfect! Yes?

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    Man: I used to listen to plants. I understand what plants did. Then I got hooked on

    the psychic stuff and walked away from that and a lot of stuff has been

    missing in my life because of what was natural communicating with the plants

    and with nature, I walked away from because I was afraid of the psychic.

    I was talking to Joe about this I noticed awhile back I was communicating

    with Carols car. I know her car! I started talking about that and then I realized

    that I have a motorcycle thats broken down my drive way and I havent

    appreciated that. I realized how much I didnt appreciate that, maybe because

    I was afraid of the psychic thing versus the natural thing. I was hoping that Dr.

    Len would talk a little bit more about that, because I know that he

    communicates with airplanes.

    Audience: [Chuckling]

    Man: [Inaudible] I think that would help me understand and be really beneficial.

    Joe: So, it sounds like you are directing that question to him.

    Man: Yeah.

    Joe: Dr. Len, would like to...?

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    Dr. Hew Len: What was the question?

    Craig: [Chuckling]

    Man: If there is a...?

    Dr. Hew Len: Now, as HES TALKING, you should be cleaning!!! Hes only talking FOR

    YOU!! Youve GOT to get this one, otherwise youll get TANGLED in this

    stuff and go NOWHERE! You WANT to come home to Zero. So, hes only

    ASKING the question because its an opportunity to clear, get really back to

    clarity, because what he is TALKING about is really talking about stuff YOU

    are reacting to. If you didnt have it IN you, he wouldnt SAY it. You cant

    say something thats not already IN you. So, kind of just pay attention to

    yourself and clean. Yeah, go ahead.

    Man: I need you to talk about talking with the airplanes and the room and with all of

    nature.

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah.

    Man: I can understand and appreciate that, having done a lot of that. At one point, I

    walked AWAY from it, because of a fear of the psychic realm.

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    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. What YOU...what would be a problem for YOU if you went to SEE a

    psychic.

    Man: I wouldnt do that.

    Dr. Hew Len: No, I am POINTING that out. Now, if you go see a psychic you are going to

    be in TROUBLE!

    Man: Why is that?

    Dr. Hew Len: Because the reason that you go see psychics is because youve got problems.

    If you would LET IT GO, you could see for yourselves. Why would you want

    to go see a psychic when you can do it yourself? Talk to the chair, talk to

    there, talk to SHOES!

    So, the idea is NOT to talk to things, the idea is dont talk because some of

    you talk to somebody else! Thats a BIG problem...is getting information from

    another person youre going to...you are going to go off. Because the only

    reason that you are talking to that person is because you have the tie that you

    need to cut, erase, and let go, so that YOU can go directly to the Source which

    is already IN YOU!

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    Yeah. For you...for those of you who give out information, oh boy! You

    should be paying attention, because whatever you put out is going to come

    back and SLAM you! So what you want to make sure is that whatever you are

    putting out, it comes from inspiration and you NEVER know. Because you

    never know, you are always cleaning, because youve got to put out

    information anyway.

    I dont care, you say, Im not going to do it! Im going to clean!

    Well, its going to go out anyway. But, the idea is by doing constant, non-stop

    cleaning its going to come up to do whatever its going to do and people are

    going to do that around you because they are moved to do it, not because you

    are telling them to do it.

    You guys have a NASTY HABIT of telling people what to do. Itll come back

    and get you. One of your children, get you...itll come back and do that. But,

    the idea is, listen, just clean up. Youve got some clients, you just make sure

    that you are cleaning with them and THEY will get what they need and theyll

    come back.

    Theyll go, WOW! I dont know how it happened, but I thank you very

    much!

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    You go, HUH? You take their money ANYWAY!

    Well, the idea is that you want to be able to be at a place where ALWAYS the

    information is coming directly from The Source. THATS where you want to

    be. This is why you want to clean, because YOU will get that information and

    when that information goes OUT, it comes directly from God. You say, you

    think. Yeah. Thats so. But if you fuss around with psychic stuff, then you are

    opening yourself up for problems. The DOORS open in your mind and you

    are not even aware of it.

    You just go, W-h-o-o-p [musically up the scale], and you get more and

    more confused.

    I had a good friend who, she would go to the store and then, in the store, have

    you ever seen people inside the store with telephones, calling aunt [Bla, bla,

    bla, bla, bla, bla, bla]? Oh, yeah, yeah. So, heres this little gal, must have

    been a sixteen year old. She went off to the store.

    Then she would say, Oh! Maybe mom would want something. She would

    stop. She would do her cleaning and then she would ask mama, What is it

    that you want?

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    Mama lived about two miles away. Mama would say, Heres what I want.

    Because she got SO clean, she could hear mama! But now, weve got cell

    phones. We are losing this intuition thats ours!! Where you can actually

    teleport with your mind, you can actually hear...and I MUST say I LOVE the

    internet! Because I dont have to see people!! See? I can [Chuckling] DO IT

    over the internet!!

    Female: [Chuckling]

    Dr. Hew Len: If they are mad at me, I go, Oh, okay, I get to clean that, as opposed to have

    them right in my face going GRRRR [growling sounds].

    Woman: [Laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, but you ALREADY know and I am only here to SAY you know and

    that The Source in you DESIGNED you!! He knows EXACTLY who you are.

    He knows EXACTLY whats perfect for you and the ONLY thing that

    BLOCKS you or this information called memories, OLD STUFF, what

    Shakespeare calls Fore bemoan moan. POOR SOUL! Thats the

    Subconscious and the Conscious. Poor Soul! These rebel powers that thee

    array, and thats what the memories are, the DATA.

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    Any more questions before I get on to OTHER cleaning tools? [Chuckling]

    Please.

    Joe: Are you saying...its sounded you are saying that we shouldnt go to a

    PSYCHIC, but it doesnt sound that we may not have psychic abilities.

    Dr. Hew Len: No, I am saying TWO THINGS.

    Joe: Okay.

    Dr. Hew Len: What I am saying is, if...lets say that she turns out to be a psychic. Okay? So,

    I am doing my cleaning and I get an inspiration to go see her. THATS the

    ONLY time that Ill go SEE HER! So, now I know that I am going to see her,

    I am going to make sure that I do my cleaning, but theres SOMETHING that

    I can clean up and theres something that shes going to share for me

    DIRECTLY from God! But, if I dont CLEAN, then shes going to tell me

    GARBAGE, because I didnt clean up my stuff!

    Now, I dont get...to be very honest, I dont get these inspirations to go see

    psychics or anybody else. Now, that doesnt mean that I wont DO it. I may be

    doing it...I am CLEANING and the Inspiration and I may be doing it without

    my awareness! THATS what youve got to watch!!! So, the idea is, so whats

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    the bottom line? Just do your cleaning. Just DO IT!!! What are you cleaning?

    Who KNOWS....but you want to be FREE!!

    You want to have, as Jesus said, Blessed are the pure in heart for they shall

    see God.

    Thats what you want to do, because when I...if I am cleaning, I look at my

    friend Heidi, I will only be awed by what I see.

    If I dont clean, I go, Well [whinning sounds]. Like the soliloquy inHamlet.

    Oh, my God! But, see, THATS your responsibility!!

    Remember that old saying that, You can be perfect as...

    Audience: God.

    Dr. Hew Len: ...God. YOU CAN, because [Chuckling] you already ARE!!! EXACT

    IMAGE, EXACT likeness, but we dont experience that because weve got

    GARBAGE. So, coming back to the question, it does not mean that I am not

    going to go SEE her, but I am going to go see her because I am INSPIRED to

    see her. But I am going to clean like nobodys business because I dont know.

    I want to make sure that whatever information that comes up for me or for her

    will be PERFECT.

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    Anybody else? Yes.

    Female: Ive had maybe three or four times in my life that I have been TRULY

    inspired to do something. I could NEVER EXPLAIN WHERE it came from.

    Dr. Hew Len: GOOD!!

    Female: I had told the other clients that I had plans of something completely different

    that day and I was just driven to DO something else...

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah.

    Female: ...and I DID that other thing.

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah.

    Female: WHERE does that kind of inspiration come from if I am not, obviously I

    never learned about cleaning until I learned it....

    Dr. Hew Len: HEY!!! Somebody in Hawaii is cleaning so that you can be inspired!!!

    Female: Oh, okay!

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    Dr. Hew Len: Somebody, somebody else!

    Female: So the cleanings been going on for....

    Dr. Hew Len: THOUSANDS of YEARS!!!

    Female: Somewhere a cleaning wave came by ME...

    Dr. Hew Len: ABSOLUTELY!

    Female: ...and I got an inspiration.

    Dr. Hew Len: Absolutely!!! But, this cleaning has been going on for thousands and

    thousands of years!!

    Female: Wow!

    Dr. Hew Len: Otherwise, wed be DEAD already, all of us. This would be a whole lot...I

    mean, the talk...the nuclear...I mean, it could go to hell, but you have people,

    these CRAZY people who come along [Chuckling] periodically and to keep

    the things so that it wont just go crazy!!

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    Female: You know what? I DO want to say something, that I think that you are

    INCREDIBLY BRAVE to even USE the word CRAZY considering where

    you used to work.

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. Oh, yeah!!

    Audience: [Laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: But, I tell you the reason why I am saying that. You see, I have to...this is

    not...teaching this stuff is not a SAFE way to go. This is not something I

    would WISH [Chuckling] anybody else to do, because you have to be crazy!

    Because, like my friend over there with the rage, if you say something and

    you HIT that in class, they will go ballistic. The WHOLE class will go crazy. I

    had that happen in Chicago. I had that happen in Philadelphia and I KNOW

    that its going to come!! No matter what, its going to come!!!

    But, youd be a damn FOOL to try to teach this stuff. I do it, because this is

    what I came to do. I dont do it because I LOVE to do it.

    Audience: [Chuckling]

    Dr. Hew Len: Its like I was telling to somebody, a friend of mine, I WOULD PREFER to

    be home just walking, getting OLD.

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    Audience: [Laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: But, this is what I, unfortunately, and I will say unfortunately, this is what I

    came for. I CAN NOT NOT DO IT. But, its dangerous to do!!! You will hit

    grudges. This is the PROGRAM; I mean you will hit it like nobodys

    business!!! Nobody...I mean, itll go CRAZY!!!

    This is why, before I come, I make sure that I spend HOURS looking at the

    land, looking at the building, looking at whatever it is in me that will cause

    you to go ballistic looking at the LAND. The LAND is really the MOST

    important thing to look at, because THIS land had millions and millions and

    millions of YEARS of history. So, if you are going to go any place...you dont

    know....

    You see, PART of the problem with jet lag is you dont realize that if you are

    in Austin, I am going to go home to Los Angeles, I have to travel through all

    of this time and space, different dimensions, and well, of COURSE I am going

    to get jet lag. BUT NOW, before I go I do my TEN ROUNDS of breathing,

    The Universe makes adjustments, opens, closes, opens, closes, just like

    breathing!!! But all you are doing is breathing.

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    You are saying, I am sorry. Please forgive me. I dont want to break up

    anything. Thats not my intent. I just want to go HOME!

    Like that, by just doing ten rounds of breathing for every hour. Otherwise,

    unknowingly, you are just smashing things creating problems. Yeah. Anybody

    else? I hear...see bubbles over here...anybody [Click-cluck, click-cluck, click-

    cluck tongue sounds] Okay, once. [Click-cluck]Yes, Maam?

    Woman: So, if youd say youd rather be HOME, this is...you are INSPIRED to teach

    THIS?

    Dr. Hew Len: No. It...YOU should be CLEANING when you are hearing anything like that.

    You are trying to figure out whats going on.

    Woman: I am, yes. I could be cleaning.

    Dr. Hew Len: But, you could be CLEANING, because the Intellect will go CRAZY! Yeah.

    I am just telling you the TRUTH. You want to hear the TRUTH, right? You

    dont want to hear bullshit, but...this is why at some point you had the Internet

    thats come.... Thats why I am hanging around with my friend Joe Vitale. I

    am looking for SOME EASIER WAY to get this information across...without

    having to travel!!

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    Female: [Laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: Have you seen.... Why do you think I am hanging around with him, for???

    Nerissa: [Loud Laughing]

    Audience: [Laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: You know what I heard when I was cleaning?

    This is MONTHS ago, I heard HE CAN WRITE!! He has the story-telling

    style, but it doesnt come across as Pendante, like the reading of a manual on

    mental health. So, he can do it!

    But, I kept WORKING on it, I just wanted to make sure I am hearing that,

    because the information in this book, it MAY look like story-telling, but its

    going to hit a lot of plugs!!! [Bong, bong, bong, bong, bom (musically sung)]

    I am ready. I would like the BOOK to go out, so that [Chuckling] I can

    CLEAN AT HOME while this thing is doing its [bom, bom, bom, bom,

    (musically sung)] and I have TALKED to this book.

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    The book says, I am...I can do it!

    Yeah, so...but wouldnt it be nice if you could work from home doing stuff?

    Dont you want to work from home, you folks?

    Audience: [Chuckling]

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah! So, this, thats what I would like to do, because I am getting to be a

    VERY OLD man and I would prefer...yeah, anybody else? Yes, maam.

    Female: Dr. Len....

    Dr. Hew Len: Can I show you here? I give you what my name is, because if you pronounce

    my name correctly its a cleaning tool, so Ill just put it up on the board.

    Audience: OH! Okay.

    Dr. Hew Len: This is why if you have the correct name, your name itself becomes a cleaning

    process. If the name is incorrect, all hell breaks lose.

    You wonder, Why is the person mad at me? Why?

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    Its about your name, not YOU. Yeah. So, I am just going to put it on and

    you...have...you can do with it what you want.

    But, here in Hawaiian the i is pronounced as e. Its an e sound. Okay?

    So, hale, like Spanish, its even keel, ha le means house, a means of,

    ka la so an Okino sign there. So, it means, I-ha-le-a-ka-laaaaa. If you say,

    this la ONLY it means money. But, if you say laaaa it means son. If

    you say la [short word] it means forgiveness. So the name, the pronunciation

    is VERY IMPORTANT. So, Ihaleakala. Yes?

    Female: Ihaleakala.

    Dr. Hew Len: Yes. Perfect. The question please.

    Female: Yes. I...speaking of...I need some clarification please very much between the

    physical and I spoke to Joe about this at lunch about this and he said that I

    should mention it in front of the room. The physical what you physically

    feel and how that translates ...

    Dr. Hew Len: Sure.

    Female: ...into where we are at Zero.

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    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. I need a white...[click-click]. Anybody can give me their ERASER?

    Can I get an eraser?

    Joe: Heres an eraser. Heres an eraser.

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. We can open the door and the windows now if you are too hot. Some of

    you are fanning away.

    Female: Yes!

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. You know theres an old Texas story? I learned this a long time ago.

    Theres a Texas story that goes like this: Theres this dog howling [howling

    sounds].

    An old man comes along and says, Whats the problem?

    The dog says, I am sitting on a TACK!

    Jillian: [Chuckling]

    Dr. Hew Len: The old man says, Why dont you get off?

    His response was, I am TOO TIRED!

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    Audience: [Laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: So, if you are waving away and you want the window open, come Okala,

    RAISE YOUR HAND [chuckle] and we will do it! Yeah. Coming all the way

    from Texas to do this, see?

    Joe: [Laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. [Erasing sounds] So, I am going to show you the connections between

    the mind and the body. Now, I did it yesterday, but I am going to do it in

    another way.

    This is a connection between the mind and the body. So, everything begins

    with The Divinity, coming back to our friend here. I am going to use her as an

    example. So, NOW, for whatever reason, out of the void, out of NOTHING,

    Divinity shows up as LIGHT. Why? I have no idea.

    So, now, Divinity for whatever purpose decides to create our friend here,

    THIS way. So, NOW, shes PERFECT! Zero. Zero. Zero. Zero. Being

    Perfect, shes quiet, doesnt say anything, no thinking, no coping, no

    managing, no questions [chuckling], no NOTHING for EONS!!! [Chuckling]

    Sorry. [Chuckle]

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    So, NOW, here she is. So NOW Divinity INSPIRES her. Thats the NEXT

    step. From Zero comes the LIGHT and she is INSPIRED and she FULFILLS

    the destiny for which she came, for which she was designed. So NOW, this is

    what happens. I am going to draw ONE CELL, which represents the whole

    body, because in the middle of the cell, is ALL of the DATA which creates

    the whole body. Do you understand that? Okay. Good.

    So, heres the cell. This Subconscious is represented by the celic

    BEHIND...AROUND the cell. So, here it is now. I am just going to show you

    the connection. Then AROUND this Subconscious is the Conscious Mind. So,

    I am going to do it by THIS mark. So, HERE is the Conscious Mind. This is

    the Super Conscious, or the Spirit, so I am just going to draw it this way.

    HERE is The Divinity, Zero, Infinite. So, as soon as you get an experience

    called Inspiration in HERE, its because the Inspiration is here, in The

    Subconscious. IMMEDIATELY it tunes up and the cell becomes inspired.

    Thats the connection between the mind and cell, because around the cell is

    something that science can not see. Thats the Subconscious, the conscious

    mind, the super conscious, then The Divinity.

    So, as SOON as something...this gets inspired, that inspiration shows up in the

    Subconscious and thats inspiration designs. that cell and you have the

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    experience of love, joy, happiness...your cell! You are just...its like THAT!

    Its an uplifting.

    Now, if this is a Memory, which is everything shuts down then what happens

    is the memory ends up here, remembering heres the connection. The memory

    ends up here and then the cell goes and it becomes cancerous, thats the effect.

    Its out of rhythm. Its out of tune. Its gone! Its out of step.

    So, NOW, if you have a pain in your back, you want to work on THAT which

    creates the pain in the cell and the way you do it is, I love you. Divinity

    sends on the image, removes that energy and it becomes pure energy, removes

    it to nothing and the same thing happens here, here, down to the cellular level

    which is just an effect, then now the Inspiration comes down and the CELL is

    REBORN, like you!! Thats it!

    Victoria: On your body you have chakras and...

    Dr. Hew Len: Your body what?

    Victoria: On your body you have chakras. Do you know what I am even referring to?

    Dr. Hew Len: I dont know what you are talking about.

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    Victoria: They are energy centers.

    Dr. Hew Len: So, let...what you have to do, I want you to do, I want you to put THAT down

    for a little while. I want you to look at THIS. [Pause]

    So, every cell has an IDENTITY. The Divinity, the Inspiration, the Super

    Conscious, Consciousness. Thats what I am telling YOU now. EVERY cell,

    ZILLIONS OF THEM, have an identity of their own. If its playing from

    memory, then in the memory of the Subconscious, the cell has an effect and

    the cell goes out of sorts, because...remember I showed you the three things?

    Heres Zero, here is the CAUSE. Here is the EFFECT! From Zero you get

    zero...nothing! From Inspiration, inspiration causes an inspiration here, so that

    cell in fact BEHAVES itself. It does what it NEEDS to do, but if youve got a

    memory here, that memory which is a CAUSE, will cause that cell to go into

    disease and you are STUCK with it.

    Now, I wanted to leave the chakra out, because I dont want to handle that in

    this class. I am NOT DENYING THAT, I am not! But I want you to stay at

    HOME with yourself. But heres the relationship of the mind to the body. But,

    you HAVE to realize that the body is an effect! Thank God!

    Dont you think, Thank God, we can change that?

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    Female: Yes!

    Dr. Hew Len: Instead of dying from some disease called cancer, WE CAN REMEDIATE IT

    by CHANGING the memory!!! [Pause]

    Anybody else?

    Headaches, no matter what youve got, you can...YOU can heal it, by

    talking...by going here. But, if you think that the problem is in the cell, you

    havent got a chance. You cant do it! Anybody UNCLEAR?

    You dont have to buy this. I am not here to sell it to you. I just want to

    [chuckle] make sure you are CLEAR. Yeah?

    Female: I am clear.

    Dr. Hew Len: David? David, do you have anything that you want to ask about THIS

    arrangement?

    David: No, not from YOU.

    Dr. Hew Len: Okay. Thank you very much.

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    Woman: [Laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: Yes?

    Suzanne: If you are clearing all the cells, can you rejuvenate yourself...?

    Dr. Hew Len: Of course!!

    Suzanne: ...by about. twenty years young?

    Dr. Hew Len: Of course!!! For GOD, there is NOTHING that God can not do that is perfect

    and right for you!! NOTHING!!!

    Now, the ONLY question is, What [chuckling] is God going to do for you

    when you CLEAN??

    You cant say to God, This is what I want.

    Audience: [Chuckling]

    Dr. Hew Len: It doesnt work, because God is not a concierge!! Do you know what a

    concierge is?

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    Audience: No. Yes. Yes. Yes.

    Dr. Hew Len: Thats how we TREAT people.

    I want this and you dont give it, Well, [raspberry] Ill go....!

    Audience: [Laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah. Divinity is NOT a concierge, ladies and gentlemen. I just wanted to

    [chuckle], sorry about that! If he IS, youll have to hear it from another

    person. Yeah. Yes? Yes?

    Woman: Can we just TRUST the process and not have to figure out how its working?

    Dr. Hew Len: Well, you WONT EVER figure it out how its working, so...yeah!

    Audience: [Chuckling]

    Dr. Hew Len: You cant figure this thing out. This is why as I am listening to Joe trying to

    explain things. I think hes doing a good job, but words can NEVER explain

    God. CANT!! [Chuckling]

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    They ONLY reason I am STUCK. I HAVE TO SHOW you SOMETHING,

    you know?

    Audience: [Loud Laughter]

    Dr. Hew Len: I mean, Ive GOT to show you SOMETHING, but I dont want you to GRAB

    this. I want you to know how it works and JUST WORK IT!!!

    Thats ALL YOUVE GOT TO DO!!

    Lady: I mean, for me, I see what you are saying...

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah.

    Lady: ...and it looks interesting.

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah.

    Lady: I would just prefer...I TRUST you.

    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, trust GOD, yeah.

    Lady: But, I prefer to trust the process. It WORKS! So, I dont have to figure it out.

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    Dr. Hew Len: Yeah, thats right! GOOD FOR YOU!!!

    In other words, Ah, [raspberry] let that GO!!

    Really! You dont have to...fools....

    But you see, there are Intellects in this room. I have to.... They paid a

    thousand or fifteen hundred.... Ive got to, you know, give them [chuckling]

    SOMETHING!!!

    Audience: [Laughing]

    Dr. Hew Len