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USNC/TMC 319 15 July 2005 MINUTES USNC TECHNICAL MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING UL Office Research Triangle Park, NC 17 May 2005 (Meeting #15) Members Participating USNC Position Affiliation R A Williams USNC VP – Technical UL J G Abbott Member Philips Medical Sys A P Brazauski Member UL H E Fletcher, Jr Member Cooper Power Sys K E Gettman TA, DTA, TAG Admin NEMA D N Heirman Member Lucent Technologies K L Lippert Member Eaton Electric Group L McMahill Member (IAEI) City of Phoenix C C Packard Liaison Member ECCB/IECQ R H Reimer Member Rockwell Automation D M Holmes Program Administrator ANSI C T Zegers General Secretary - USNC ANSI

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USNC/TMC 319 15 July 2005

MINUTES

USNC TECHNICAL MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE MEETING

UL Office

Research Triangle Park, NC

17 May 2005 (Meeting #15)

Members Participating USNC Position Affiliation R A Williams USNC VP – Technical UL J G Abbott Member Philips Medical Sys A P Brazauski Member UL H E Fletcher, Jr Member Cooper Power Sys K E Gettman TA, DTA, TAG Admin NEMA D N Heirman Member Lucent Technologies K L Lippert Member Eaton Electric Group L McMahill Member (IAEI) City of Phoenix C C Packard Liaison Member ECCB/IECQ R H Reimer Member Rockwell Automation D M Holmes Program Administrator ANSI C T Zegers General Secretary - USNC ANSI

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Guests Participating S Bird TA – TAG Ad UL D W Bergman* Chair – TC 91 IPC J R Chubb - Dell H Cuschieri Member – Council TIA G Eckhart (PT)* TAG Ad – COPANT TC 151 NEMA F K Kitzantides Member – Council – Fmr VP NEMA T Koizumi (PT) * Ass’t Sec – TC 91 JPCA J E Matthews III USNC VP – Finance Corning A McMillan Member – Council Rockwell Automation A Shibata (PT) * TC 91 - P Stavrianidis Member – Council FM Approvals Members Not Participating L M Ferson Member ISA W T Fiske Member Intertek Testing Svcs W F Hanrahan Member EIA T A Hanson Member Corning B Liebler Member AdvaMed K L McManama Liaison Member UL, USNC/IECEx R L Pescatore Hewlett-Packard Rep USNC/IECEE, CAB Rep H L Wolfman Member (NEMA) OSRAM SYLVANIA E M Yandek Member (NEMA) GE Lighting (PT – Part Time) * By teleconference Section 1. Organizational Matters 1.1 Welcome, Opening Remarks and Introductions Chairman Williams called the meeting to order at 9:00 a.m. He welcomed everyone to UL and to Research Triangle Park. This was followed by self introductions.

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1.2 Approval of Agenda 1.2.1 Approval of the Consent Agenda The Chairman called attention to the Consent Agenda (USNC/TMC 300 – REVISED) and asked if any items should be removed for detailed discussion. None were suggested. Mr Zegers requested that Mr Tom Ball, TA – SC 86B, be add to the list of proposed reappointments with the endorsement of the GM Mr Tom Hanson. It was moved, seconded and VOTED #1 To approve the Consent Agenda (USNC/TMC 300 – REVISED) as revised. (This motion was approved unanimously.) By this action the following items were approved:

• Minutes of the 5 January 2005 meeting (USNC/TMC 299)

• The following were appointed/reappointed to the position indicated:

T E Ball TA – SC 86B H O Barikmo Secretary – TC 82 T Bianchi Secretary – TC 72 A P Brazauski Secretary – TC 61, TC 108 M G Comber Secretary – TC 37 J Dennis TA – TC 76 M W Earley TA – TC 79 A Engler TA – SC 31H J A Gauthier Secretary – SC 15C (Now TC 15) A Hardaway TA – SC 59D G E Heberlein, Jr. Co-TA – SC 17D S C Hoyler USNC Rep – Sector Board 4 G S Ibbott, Ph.D. TA – SC 62C R F Lyke TA – TC 68 R L Pescatore TA – TC 108 A C Rousseau TA – SC 34B R Rynkiewicz TA – SC 61B W Schaefer Secretary – CISPR/A R M Showers TA – TC 1, CISPR/F M A Stein TA – SC 34C J D Tobbe TA – SC 59A J R Toran Secretary – SC 48B J P Wagner TA – CISPR/I J J Woodworth TA – TC 37

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The following CERTIFICATES OF APPRECIATION were approved: E M Aoki Chair/DTA – TC 104 M Azzam Secretary, TC 82 M G Comber TA – TC 37 J L Koepfinger Secretary – TC 37 Neil Neubert DTA – TC 100 Peter Paras, Ph.D. TA – SC 62C

• An invitation to host the following meeting in the US was approved: SC 61J – Electrical Motor-Operated Cleaning Appliances for Industrial Use Las Vegas Hilton – 17 – 18 October 2005

1.2.2 Balance of the Agenda Mr Williams invited any additions or changes to the balance of the agenda and none were suggested. It was moved, seconded and VOTED #2 To approve the Balance of the Agenda (USNC/TMC 300 – REVISED) as revised. (This motion was approved unanimously.) Section 2. Status of Action Items from Previous Meetings The General Secretary called attention to the list of pending Action Items and reported on each. He noted that some items would be addressed during today’s meeting and several are still pending and will be addressed at the next TMC meeting. The following were highlighted:

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Action Item 2001-09-28 #1 It was agreed that a Task Force would be established to work with the General Secretary in developing this document. (Guideline document on Category D Liaison). Status Continuing Action Item. Draft being reviewed by USNC Officers. Will be circulated to Task Force for comment prior to September TMC meeting.

Task Force L Ferson T Hanson B Hanrahan J Kinn C T Zegers

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Action Item 2003-01-17 #3 It was agreed that the General Secretary would communicate with Mr. Cornish to determine the status of the ANSI-ISO effort (attribution) and that he and Mr. Heirman would work to develop a USNC proposal for possible submission to IEC. Status Pending-to be accomplished by May 2005 meeting.

C T Zegers D N. Heirman See today’s agenda item 3.4

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Action Item 2003-01-17 #8 It was agreed that the General Secretary should communicate with those TAGs that only just meet the viability requirement and recommend that an effort be undertaken to build membership. Status General communications sent. More specific contact to follow. Pending recommendations of Task Force to Review Challenges Concerning Management of TAG Technical Work. Report May TMC meeting.

C T Zegers

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Action Item 2003-05-12 #2 Mr. Yandek recommended and it was agreed that he would work with Mr. Seward Ford, the TA, and with Mr. Zegers in a focused effort to solve this problem before the deadline date. Status Extension until work of newly established Task Force on TAG Participation is completed. Report May TMC meeting.

E Yandek C T Zegers

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Action Item 2003-05-12 #3 It was agreed that Mr. Mikoski would be given until the next TMC meeting to rejuvenate the USNC TAG for IEC/TC 49 and to bring it into compliance with USNC Procedures including number of members required for viability, appointment of a TA and use of the TAG Model Procedures. Status A TA has been appointed and Mr. Zegers is working with Mr. Mikoski to address the other items in this action item by September 2005 TMC meeting.

E. Mikoski, Jr C T Zegers

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Action Item 2004-01-15 #3 Mr. Zegers was asked to contact the TA, Mr. Richard F. Lyke, to discuss the subject. (Category D Liaison vis-à-vis ASTM) Status Pending

C T Zegers

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Action Item - Internal USNC Policy on Adoption/Adaptation of IEC Standards 2004-05-21 The subject policy was approved by the USNC Council on 18 September 2003 and now must be implemented. It has been circulated to the USNC constituency. At the 21 May 2004 meeting of the USNC Council, this subject was discussed in some detail and the General Secretary was given an action item to gather information on the “best selling” IEC Standards and to discuss with the related USNC TAGs their intent with respect to National adoption/adaptation. This action is currently underway. Status Statistics being developed and when available will be circulated to related TAs and TAGs for consideration. Currently, IEC has announced that a data base of adopted IEC standards along with deviations will be initiated and maintained by the Central Office. We hope to learn more details shortly on this related effort.

C.T. Zegers

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Action Item 2004-09-22 #1 Mr. Mikoski, representing EIA, TAG Administrator for TC 94, agreed to work with the National Association of Relay Manufacturers to nominate a TA and activate the TAG as soon as possible. Status Mr. Zegers working with Mr. Mikoski to address this Action Item by the September 2005 TMC meeting. TA, Mr. Randy Pohl of Rockwell Automation, appointed in April 2005. TAG must now be confirmed.

E F Mikoski, Jr C T Zegers

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Action Item 2005-01-05 # 1 It was agreed that a small Task Force would be established consisting of Messrs Reimer and Heirman to look into this subject (criteria for TAs) and to make appropriate recommendations for consideration at the TMC meeting in May. Status At the May TMC meeting, Mr Reimer requested a postponement until the September TMC meeting.

R H Reimer D N Heirman C T Zegers

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Action Item 2005-01-05 #2 It was agreed that a small Task Force would be established to scope out this entire issue (challenges concerning TAG management/membership) and to prioritize the challenges with which the TMC is faced. In this way, decisions might be made on an issue-by-issue basis making solution a bit more manageable. Mr. Yandek agreed to chair this Task Force and Messrs. Hanson and Liebler agreed to serve as members. Status Interim Report provided at May 2005 TMC meeting.

E M Yandek T A Hanson B Liebler C T Zegers

Section 3. SMB MEETING – 9 – 10 June 2005 -

Geneva, Switzerland

Mr Williams called attention to the official agenda for the SMB June meeting (SMB/3030/DA) and indicated that document USNC/TMC 304 records the USNC’s positions as they evolve. Concentrating on Questions of Principle where the USNC has yet to vote, the Chairman and General Secretary reviewed each item, the comments received from the membership and a USNC position was developed where needed. These positions are recorded in ATTACHMENT A.

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The following items were highlighted:

• The Summary Report of the 9 – 10 February 2005 SMB meeting is available as document SMB/3000/RM.

• TC/SC Reports were reviewed along with comments submitted by related USNC contacts. Report of TC 86 and its SCs (SMB/3024/R) – Contains one Question of Principle to be voted on by 3 June having to do with TC 86’s request to withdraw from the Advisory Committee on Electronics and Telecommunications (ACET). After some discussion it was agreed that the USNC should support the TC 86 request.

• Status of IEC/TC 71 – Electrical installations for outdoor sites under heavy conditions (SMB/3042/DP) – It was agreed that the USNC should support the disbandment of TC 71 with its current standards being maintained by either TC 44 or TC 64.

• Alleged scope overlap among SC 23B, SC 23J and TC 72 (SMB/3039/R) – The TAG for SC 23B recommends that this report and recommendation be supported and that the related TC 72 project be returned to the preliminary stage and that efforts be continued to address the scope situation. USNC contacts for TC 72 have not, as yet, been heard from.

• The Directives Maintenance Team is working to revised IEC Guide 108 – The relationship between technical committees with horizontal functions and product committees and the use of basic publications – The USNC has submitted comments provided by Mr Don Heirman.

• SMB Task Force on implementation of the systems approach concept – The SMB is currently looking for a replacement Convenor for this activity and hopes to have one in place for the October meeting.

• International Standards for Security (SMB/3049/INF) – In February 2005 both the ISO Technical Management Board and the IEC SMB met simultaneously and each took various actions to implement the recommendations of the Advisory Group on Security chaired by ANSI Chairman George Arnold. One recommendation had to do with the establishment of a permanent Joint Advisory Body of the Subject. Another had to do with the reactivation of IEC/TC 79 on Alarm Systems, currently in stand-by. The French National Committee, the current Secretariat, is pursuing the subject and, if the Secretariat is relinquished, the National Fire Protection Association has expressed interest in having the USNC request this assignment.

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• Global Relevance Policy – The following items were noted:

- An effort is underway by the IEC Technical Director to officially define the phrase “technical infrastructure.” - The Council Board has been asked to determine if an EDR can cover a new Part of an existing standard. - The 1st two EDRs (SC 23B and SC 23H) ever submitted, both by the USNC, are currently being voted on as CDVs as a result of SMB action at its February meeting. Some concern has been raised unofficially that these EDRs bypassed the CD stage. - An extension of the Implementation Program trial period which is due to conclude in October 2005 may be needed because, as yet, no EDR has made it through the process. - The USNC has officially submitted a 3rd EDR to SC 23F on AWGs and one is imminent for SC 23E on Socket Outlet GFCIs. - The 1st EDR from outside North America is being pursued by Finland for SC 86C and has to do with low temperature limits for optical connectors.

• Merger of SC 15E and TC 98 into TC 112 – (SMB/3019A/RV) - Both the German National Committee (Secretariat of SC 15E) and the USNC (Secretariat of TC 98) requested to be assigned as Secretariat of the new TC 112. Germany won the vote and has now been assigned this responsibility. The USNC tried very hard to encourage support for its position but, even some NCs with which we have worked very closely, voted against the USNC. FOR THE GERMAN NC FOR THE USNC Brazil Australia China Hungary Denmark Netherlands France Spain Germany US Italy Japan Korea, Republic of Sweden UK If Brazil, China, Japan and Korea had voted for the USNC we would have been assigned this Secretariat. During discussion it was agreed that the USNC had to reevaluate its relationships with the other SMB members. It was suggested that an effort be made through Mr Gene Eckhart of NEMA to enlist the support of the Association’s contacts in countries such as Brazil and China. (ACTION ITEM #1)

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• Restructuring of TC 15 and SC 15C - TC 15 and SC 15C have been asked by the SMB

to recommend a restructuring plan for the June meeting. Italy is currently the Secretariat of the TC and the USNC is Secretariat of SC 15C (John Gauthier – Secretary). The USNC has repressed interest in serving as Secretariat of a new or restructured TC and Italy may or may not be interested in continuing. Germany currently provides the Chair of the TC and the UK the Chair of the SC. The SMB is expected to make a decision in June.

• Ad Hoc Group #17 – (SMB/3027/R) - Development stages of standards – Recommendations from the Ad Hoc Group’s February meeting will be considered at the June SMB meeting. The Group has eliminated its recommendation for possible term limits for Secretaries/Secretariats but is continuing to recommend that Key Performance Indicators be developed, possibly in concert with a similar activity in ISO. Also, the Group is recommending that the SMB staff begin to document the root causes of delayed projects to determine if corrective action can be taken. Delay caused by French translation and the editorial process have been alleged and these should be documented.

• Ad Hoc Group 19 – IEC standardization strategy (SMB/2907C/DP) – In February, the SMB approved its standardization strategy and now is in the process of initiating an implementation plan. Some members of the Council Board voted against the plan primarily because of confusion with respect to this plan and the pending revision of the IEC Masterplan. It was noted that the ISO TMB has a similar plan as does the CAB. This is an important document for IEC and the members of the TMC were encouraged to review it carefully and to submit any comments to Messrs Williams and Zegers.

• Nanotechnologies – It was reported that the SMB is considering the possibility of establishing an Advisory Body of outside experts who will keep abreast of developments in this area and advise the SMB when and if standardization in the electrotechnical sector is needed. It is anticipated that the USNC will participate in this body. During discussion it was reported that a great deal of work is underway in IEEE on this subject and this should be brought to the attention of the Advisory Body when it is established.

• New Initiatives – (SMB/2917B/INF) - This is a new, standing topic for SMB meetings initiated by Mr Kitzantides. It is intended to keep the SMB advised of potential new areas for standardization being considered within the TCs/SCs or by the President’s Advisory Committee on Future Technology (PACT) or other bodies.

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• ACEA – Advisory Committee on Environmental Aspects – (SMB/3037/R) - One

recommendation to be voted on by 6 June has to do with the TC 108 project based on 108/116/NP. Mr Gettman had recommended that consideration be given to suggesting that a Joint Working Group be established between TC 108 and TC 111 to pursue this project. After some discussion it was agreed that the USNC would support the recommendation with the comment that, at this time, mandatory and effective liaison be established between the two TCs.

• ACET – Advisory Committee on Electronics and Telecommunications – (SMB/3041/DP) - It was noted that, at the request of the SMB, ACET has submitted a revised Program of work and the SMB must now determine if this effort warrants the continuation of the Advisory Committee. In February, the SMB narrowly voted to continue ACET but noted some potential conflicts with Sector Board 4. No input, pro or con, has been received from the USNC constituency on ACET or its new recommended program of work.

• ACOS – Advisory Committee on Safety – (SMB/3007/R) – On 25 April, the USNC submitted affirmative votes on the six recommendations submitted to the SMB by ACOS. Mr Brazauski, ACOS member, reported briefly on a dialogue that took place with Mr Ray Corson, Agilent Technologies and DTA for TC 66, concerning the recommended change is status of IEC/TR 61201 to a Technical Specification particularly with respect to touch voltages considered to be hazardous under certain circumstances.

• CENELEC - Attention was directed to document SMB/3043/INF – CENELEC exemptions from parallel voting procedures – This document was made available to the USNC constituency and no comments were received. - The USNC contacts for IEC/TC 105 – Fuel Cell Technologies, have expressed concern that a CEN/CENELEC project on fuel cells will lead to two standards on the same subject. This project, originally under the jurisdiction of CEN has now be transferred to CENELEC and, as a result, it will be offered to IEC for consideration under the Dresden Agreement. What the USNC contacts feared will apparently happen and the SMB’s intervention has not prevented it. IEC TC 105 will now have to address both documents, its own and CENELEC’s. - Also, with respect to TC 105, the USNC nominated Mr Kelvin Hecht, TA, as TC Chair. The German Secretariat has recently nominated a candidate from Japan.

3.1 USNC Proposal Submitted to SMB – Ad Hoc Group on the Development

and Use of IEC International Standards for Regulatory Purposes

Attention was directed to document SMB/3047/DP, the USNC Proposal, and it was

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reported that while the SMB agreed to consider the proposal, the USNC’s request to have Mr James Thurston attend and make the presentation was denied because of existing SMB rules having to do with outside participants. The USNC’s proposal, therefore, will be given by the USNC members. The comments submitted by the SMB members prior to the meeting will be discussed with Mr Thurston and his constituency in order to develop appropriate responses. It was also reported that Mr Thurston had visited the UK SMB member with favorable results and, in fact, the submitted proposal was revised to reflect suggestions that were made. Also, ISO’s TMB is pursuing a related activity which might be considered in a collaborative effort. 3.2 USNC Appeal to SMB Re Decision to Limit Membership on

SC 77A/WG 1

The members were reminded that the USNC has submitted an official appeal to the SMB on the decision by the management of TC 77 and SC 77A to limit the number of experts on 77A/WG 1 from any National Committee to 3. With the help of the IEC General Secretary a compromise has been developed which is now being voted on by SC 77A. If the compromise is approved the appeal will be withdrawn. If not, it will be pursued to the full extent of the ISO/IEC Directives. USNC SC 77A contacts still have some concern about how the compromise will be implemented, if approved, but is willing to wait and see. 3.3 Discussion of Issues Between IEC/TC 91 (Electronic Assembly Technology) and IEC/TC 86 (Fibre Optics) At this point, Messrs Dieter Bergman, Chair – IEC/TC 91, joined the meeting via teleconference along with Mr T Koizumi, Ass’t Secretary, and Mr A Shibata. Messrs Bergman and Shibata highlighted the efforts on the part of TC 91 to changes its scope to include optical components and, particularly, the consideration of 4 New Work Item Proposals on printed boards with optical fibers or optical polymers and the related connecting devices. These NWIPs failed in voting because a sufficient number of Experts were not available to do the work. Messrs Bergman and Shibata emphasized the efforts that took place to coordinate with IEC/TC 86. Mr Jim Matthews, Secretary – TC 86, reported on the situation from the perspective of TC 86 which clearly feels that TC 91 is attempting to encroach on its scope. He expressed the strong belief that TC 86 can do the work, has the necessary experts, has accomplished similar coordination efforts in other areas, and would be happy to work with TC 91 in a Joint Work Group under TC 86’s administrative jurisdiction. Mr Williams thanked the representatives of TC 91 for their time and contributions and the teleconference was discontinued. Subsequently, a TMC discussion took place and it was agreed that the projects in question appear to fall within the scope of TC 86 and that TC 91 would have to revise its scope in order to pursue them. Further, because TC 86 has a history of successfully pursuing such coordinated efforts, a JWG should be established under its administrative jurisdiction. The following action was decided unanimously:

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The USNC recommends that the four (4) New Work Item Proposals in question for opt-electronics mounting technology related standards be developed by a Joint Working Group of IEC/TC 86 and IEC/TC 91 consisting of Experts representing both TCs and under the administrative jurisdiction of IEC/TC 86. Mr Zegers was directed to suggest this course of action to Mr Bergman and to seek his support. If his support is not given, the USNC SMB members will support the TC 86 position at the June meeting. (ACTION ITEM #2) 3.4 Attribution Issues Mr Heirman reminded the TMC that in January 2003, he and the General Secretary were given an Action Item to pursue the subject of attribution in IEC standards of the work of Standards Developing Organizations which may have been used, in whole or in part, in the IEC standards. At the time, the TMC felt that it was important to bring this issue to the attention of IEC at all levels and, particularly, to remind those who may use the work of others in their standards that recognition had to be give. Mr Heirman called attention to a Discussion Paper on the subject provided as ATTACHMENT B. During discussion, it was suggested that the recommendations in the paper are somewhat complicated and difficult and, if implemented, could potentially result in significantly more work on the part of the TC/SC Secretaries and ultimately result in delay in publication of standards. Further, it was suggested that what is required is simply strong enforcement of the current copyright requirements, in other words, some kind of policing action. It was agreed that an effort should be made to socialize this issue and to draw attention to the concerns expressed in Mr Heirman’s paper. Messrs Williams, Heirman and Zegers will collaborate to determine what the appropriate mechanism might be utilized to accomplish this goal. (ACTION ITEM #3) 3.5 IEC 69th General Meeting 16 – 21 October – Cape Town 3.5.1 The Fall SMB meeting will take place on 17 October in Cape Town in conjunction with the IEC General Meeting. 3.5.2 SMB Elections Attention was directed to Administrative Circular AC/12/2005 concerning the reelection of Mr Don Gray of Australia as Chairman of CAB and Vice-President of IEC. Also, attention was directed to AC/14/2005 inviting nominations for the election/re-election of 3 members of the SMB for 3-year terms. Korea, Spain and Sweden have reached the end of their terms and only the Member from Korea is not eligible to serve another term. However, Korea can nominate another individual. It was noted that the Canadian National Committee was interested in election to the SMB and it was agreed that the TMC should recommend to the Council that the USNC nominate the

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CNC, with its permission. Section 4. Management Decisions 4.1 TMC Task Force to Review Challenges Concerning Management of

TAG Technical Work Mr Zegers called attention to the Interim Report of the TMC Task Force chaired by Mr Ed Yandek and consisting of Messrs Tom Hanson and Bernie Liebler. (ATTACHMENT C) The Task Force met via teleconference on 28 March 2005 and it was decided that in order to analyze the current situation with respect to TAG membership data had to be available that would highlight the TAG below, at or only slightly above the viability level of 3 voting members. Mr Zegers was asked to develop this data and it is attached to the report. Next the Task Force intends to consider the reasons why some TAGs only have 3 members. Is it because the technology is no longer active in the US or because a conscious decision has been made to maintain the membership at 3 or some other reason. On a more immediate situation, the Task Force noted that currently 3 TAGs do not comply with the TMC’s requirement that all TAGs have a TAG Administrator. They are: TC 4 Hydraulic Turbines SC 22E Power Electronic Systems and Equipment/Stabilized Power Supplies TC 97 Electrical Installations for Lighting and Beaconing of Aerodromes

This requirement was made for a number of reasons including 1) financial – All TAG Administrators pay an annual fee as part of their ANSI Membership Dues, 2) provide administrative support to the TA, many of who, in the past, did all the work themselves and 3) demonstrate a broader level of industry interest in the work of the TAG, not simply individual interest. The Task Force felt that, in the future, this requirement may need to be changed but while it is still a requirement it should be enforced. It was recommended that these TAGs be advised that they must comply with this requirement within a specified period of time or the TAG will be disbanded until such time as compliance is assured. After some discussion, TMC agreed with this recommendation, suggested that feedback be obtained from the related TAGs and specified the next TMC meeting for compliance. 4.2 TMC Task Force on Criteria for TAs Task Force members, Messrs Ron Reimer and Don Heirman, indicated that they would provide a report at the September TMC meeting. 4.3 Suggestions for Future TMC Meetings Mr Williams called attention to the suggestions that Mr Yandek provided on improving the operation of future TMC meetings and the related comments that were received from the members. (ATTACHMENT D) During discussion, support was voiced for immediately

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implementing these suggestions. Particularly noted were the problems resulting from members leaving a meeting early and support for the circulation of written reports prior to a meeting. Additional suggestions were invited. 4.4 TMC Voting on Invitations to Host TC/SC Meetings in US Mr Zegers reminded the members that the TMC currently votes, either at a meeting or by E-Mail Ballot, on the following subject:

• Appointment of TAs, DTAs, Secretaries, Ass’t Secretaries • Appointment of Candidates for TC/SC Chairmen from the US • Appointment of Administrative Secretariats • Appointment of TAG Administrators • Formal Invitations to TCs/SCs to Meet in the US

Some members have questioned the need for the TMC to vote on all these items and

suggested that an abbreviated approach be found. After discussion, it was moved, seconded and VOTED #3 That the USNC General Secretary be delegated responsibility for extending formal invitations to hold meetings of IEC TCs/SCs in the US

based on evidence of financial and administrative support provided by the responsible TA and/or TAG Administrator. These authorizations are to be reported regularly to the TMC. (This motion was approved unanimously.) Further, it was moved, seconded and

VOTED #4 That the USNC General Secretary be delegated responsibility for appointing/reappointing TAs and DTAs in consultation with the assigned Group Manager. These appointments/reappointments to be reported regularly to the TMC. (This motion was approved unanimously.)

It was agreed that exceptions to the above appointment rule would be possible if the Group Manager and General Secretary felt that a particular case should be brought to the TMC’s attention. Also, it was agreed that all other TMC voting instances will remain unchanged. 4.5 Joint Council and TMC Task Force on Revisions of the Statutes, Rules

of Procedures and Decisions Documents

Mr Kitzantides provided a brief report on the work of the Joint Task Force which led to the TMC and Council ballot of 13 April on the 3 USNC foundation documents, Statutes, Rules of Procedure and Decisions. He noted that these documents were overwhelmingly approved and he called attention to a number of comments that were submitted. He particularly noted the discussion of the definition of a USNC Council and TMC member and that individual’s

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relationship to the entity that nominated them particularly when that relationship changes (e.g. change of employment). Also, the subject of Full ANSI membership as opposed to basic membership was noted as was the Nominations Committee’s recommendation that the membership of the Council and TMC be increased. If supported by the Council these documents will be finalized and submitted to the USNC Voting Members for approval and then issued. 4.6 Communications and Continuing Education Committee Mr Zegers reported for Mr Jack Wells, Chairman of the Communications and Continuing Education Committee, that, in the very near future, the following series of Internet-based, self-taught training Modules will be made available to the USNC constituency: Module 1 International Standardization: Introduction and Overview Module 2A IEC Organizational and Governance Structures Module 2B USNC/IEC Organizational and Governance Structures Module 3A IEC Personnel: Roles and Responsibilities Module 3B USNC Personnel: Roles and Responsibilities Module 4 Standards Development and the Stages of Technical Work This important effort is a direct result of the electronic needs survey that was conducted in early 2004. These Modules are being made available gratis to members in good standing of the USNC constituency and are felt to be a significant benefit of membership. A supplementary Instructor-led training Module is being developed and is targeted for launch later in 2005. TMC and Council members have been invited to recommend individuals who might be willing to server as Instructors. Section 5. TECHNICAL ISSUES FOR CONSIDERATION 5.1 Pre-selection of Plastic Materials as Alternate to End Product Testing Mr Williams reminded the members that he chaired a TMC Workshop at ANSI’s Office in New York City on 17 August 2004 and, as a result, a survey has been circulated on the subject of pre-selection of plastic materials. The goal is to determine if the TMC can develop a position which could then be submitted to multiple IEC TCs/SCs by the related USNC constituencies. This survey’s results are being compiled and will be used to determine the next appropriate step in this evolving process. 5.2 Proposed TMC Workshop on AWGs Mr Williams reported that, as a direct result of the Pre-Selection Workshop, another TMC Workshop is being considered on the subject of AWGs. The TAG Administrator for IEC/TC 20 (Electric Cables), Mr Andrei Moldoveanu of NEMA, has drafted an agenda for this meeting and further details as to dates and location will be announced.

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5.3 Other Possible Topics for TMC Sponsored Workshops Mr Williams invited suggestions for additional topics that might lend themselves to consideration via this Workshop format. The intention is that a group of interests from the USNC constituency would come together to discuss a focused subject with the goal of possibly developing a USNC position which could then be submitted to multiple IEC TCs/SCs for consideration. Section 6. USNC POSITION ON IMPROVING SUPPORT FOR HORIZONTAL (SEMANTIC) STANDARDIZATION Mr Heirman provided a brief report on the status of the TMC’s trial effort to build participation in the following 3 IEC semantic TCs and to encourage active involvement in their work. This program included the waiver of TAG Administrator and TAG Participation fees during the trial period.

• TC 1 Terminology • TC 3 Information Structures, Documentation and Graphic Symbols • TC 25 Quantities and Units and Their Letter Symbols

He noted that while some little progress has been made it is not felt to be significant and that a 1 year extension of the trial is warranted and recommended. No objection was raised to this extension. Mr Zegers provided a brief overview of the work of SMB Ad Hoc Group 16 which made recommendations for the operations of these same TCs and basically supported the current status of TC 3 and TC 25 but challenged TC 1 to carry out its mandate to resolve differences in definitions so that only one definition would exist. Mr Heirman noted that currently the IEC IEV has 15 definitions for “environment.” The USNC members have been encouraging the SMB to consider new and innovative ways for handling these semantic TCs beyond the traditional structured TC approach. Ad Hoc Group 16 noted that one of the problems with TC 1 is the advanced age of some of its participants with few stepping up to take their place. Also, the absence of English speaking participants is a very real problem. The UK member of this Group challenged IEC to find the means of financing this work if it is felt to be important enough to continue. Mr Heirman reported that, in light of the above discussion, a dialogue has begun between himself, the USNC General Secretary, Mr Jack Sheldon of IEC and representatives of IEEE to see if a collaborative effort might be possible involving the current vocabularies of both organizations. He called attention to a proposal (ATTACHMENT E) by which the USNC, in support of the work of AHG 16, would recommend to the SMB that official contact be established between the Central Office and IEEE to begin discussions on this subject including the development of a benefits statement and a business case for a coordinated (IEC/IEEE) single international vocabulary. It was agreed that the submission of this proposal would be targeted for the October SMB meeting in Cape Town. It was moved, seconded and

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VOTED #5 That the TMC approves the submission of a USNC proposal to the

October 2005 meeting of the SMB that the IEC Central Office be urged to establish official contact with IEEE for the purpose of discussing possible collaboration on semantics (vocabularies) in standards and to report back to the SMB at its meeting in February 2006. (This motion was approved unanimously.)

Section 7. INFORMATION ITMS 7.1 COPANT Technical Committees Mr Gene Eckhart of NEMA, TAG Administrator for COPANT TC 151, joined the meeting at this point via teleconference and provided a brief overview of the status of the following:

• TC 151 – Electrotechnology • TC 152 – Energy Efficiency

With respect to TC 152 he noted that the US is an Observer and not a voting member of this TC and there is no official US TAG. The Secretary is Mr Fabian Yaksic of Brazil (General Secretary’s Note: Mr Yaksic is also Brazil’s primary representative on the SMB.) The US is a voting member of TC 151 and the Secretary is Mr Jorge A Lopez Zarate of Mexico. There has been little or no activity in this TC of late and several countries, particularly Brazil, have raised concerns. A draft survey has now been circulated to attempt to determine areas of priorities with which the TC should be involved. (ATTACHMENT F) Mr Eckhart, supported by Mr McMillan, noted that the COPANT General Assembly and Executive Board, at their recent meetings, approved a resolution and proposal, made by Mr Rafal Nava, Ambassador-at-Large for CANENA, that a meeting be scheduled under the auspices of the COPANT Executive Secretary of the official organizations representing electrotechnical interests in the region (i.e. AMN, RAN, CANENA, CROSQ and others). The purpose of the meeting would be to discuss potential areas of cooperation in their work. The attendance would be limited to one or two official representatives from each organization and be held in a neutral country such as Caracas, Venezuela, in the September 2005 timeframe. In order to save travel costs, it has been considered that the traditional Multi-National meeting among representatives of the IEC National Committees of Argentina, Brazil, Canada, Mexico and the US, be held at this same venue but that the meetings not be combined in any way. During discussion, TMC members suggested that representative to the Multi-National meeting make it their business not to attend the COPANT meeting even as Observers. Mr McMillan reported that Mr Eckhart had recently replaced him as Chairman of the ANSI Regional Standing Committee – Americas. 7.2 TMC Task Force on Electronic Communications Mr Zegers reminded the TMC that, in January 2003, a Task Force on Electronic Communications was established to review how the USNC was currently operating

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electronically, what are the latest technologies available and to make recommendations for appropriate improvement and changes. Some National Committees download all IEC documents and make them available to their constituency through there own Server while the USNC provides direct access. Some TAG Administrators also download documents to their own Server and make them available to TAG members. Others take advantage of direct access. The question is, “Is there a better way for the USNC to operate?” This is one of a number of subjects for the Task Force to consider and, unfortunately, we have run into difficulties getting the group organized. One problem is the lack of a formal Terms of Reference. The other is membership. To-date only Messrs Ken Gettman and Bill Hanrahan have volunteered to participate and more are welcome. During discussion, Dr Abbott agreed to participate. Mr Zegers also noted that a draft Terms of Reference has recently been circulated for consideration (ATTACHMENT G). He asked that any comments be submitted to him as soon as possible and if no objections are received the Group will begin its efforts under this charter. 7.3 Multi-National Meeting of the National Committees of Argentina, Brazil, Canada, Mexico and US Last year’s Multi-National Meeting was held in Buenos Aires, Argentina a month or so before the General Meeting in Seoul. At that time, the Brazilian National Committee agreed to host the 2005 meeting prior to the General Meeting in Cape Town. However, a specific date and venue has not been circulated. It is recognized that part of the problem may be the uncertainty over the COPANT initiative mentioned by Messrs Eckhart and McMillan and this may have to resolve itself before the Multi-National meeting can be finalized. During discussion, it was suggested that IEC Associate Members and Affiliates in the Americas should, at least, be invited to this meeting. It was also reported that, at the COPANT annual meeting, the Members Countries again complained about IEC dues vis-à-vis ISO dues. Section 8. Reports TAs, Secretaries, IEC Advisory Committees and Sector Boards 8.1 Reports TAs, Secretaries in Attendance The following individuals provided brief reports on their related TCs/SCs: John Abbott TC 87 – Ultrasonics Jim Matthews TC 111 – Environmental Standardization for Electrical and Electronic Products and Systems

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Al Brazauski TC 61 – Safety of Household and Similar Electrical Appliances TC 108 – Safety of Electronic Equipment within the Field of Audio/

Video, Information Technology and Communication Technology Document Highlighted – 108/131/INF – TC 108 Future Plans Concerning external candle flame ignition issue – (ATTACHMENT H)

Don Heirman CISPR – International Special Committee on Radio Interference 8.2 Advisory Committee on Electromagnetic Compatibility (ACEC)/ USNC Coordinating Committee on EMC Mr Heirman provided a brief report on ACEC and particularly emphasized the Administrative Circular that was to have been issued at the request of the SMB to clarify the use of IEC Guide 107:1998 – Electromagnetic compatibility – Guide to the drafting of electromagnetic compatibility publications. For some reason this Circular has been delayed and the USNC SMB members were requested to see what they can do to encourage issuance. (General Secretary’s Note: Subsequent to the meeting Administrative Circular AC/23/2005 was issued. ATTACHMENT I) Mr Heirman also reminded the TMC that ACEC is currently considering the subject of Regulatory Statements in Standards and that several documents had been circulated to the TMC for comment. None have been received and, therefore, the General Secretary was requested to re-circulate these documents for prompt reply. The ACEC meeting in imminent. 8.3 Advisory Committee on Safety (ACOS)/USNC Safety Coordinating Committee Mr Brazauski, as member of ACOS for TC 108, highlighted the following:

• Guide 104 will be revised to be consistent with the revision of Guide 108

• China has requested membership on ACOS and this is being pursued by the Chairman

• ACOS/354/Q – ISO New Work Item Proposal on Risk Management (ATTACHMENT J) – ACOS members being asked to vote by 27 May on ACOS request to ISO that safety aspects be excluded from this project or only dealt with by reference to ISO/IEC Guide 51. Also, ACOS nominates Mr E Sakashita as Expert to participate in the ISO/TMC WG. TMC supported affirmative votes on these questions.

• Next ACOS Workshop is planned for the Asia Pacific Area in April/May 2006. One topic of interest is Safety Regulatory Environment

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• 61(Delft/CTL Liaison) 2d – Report from the CTL Liaison (ATTACHMENT K)

pages 15 – 16 – Petroleum spirit to be used for test – Concerning difficulty in North America to acquire laboratory quantities of the petroleum spirit certified to the specifications described in IEC 60335-1, sub-clause 7.14. Mr Brazauski suggested the possibility of a TMC Workshop on this topic.

8.4 Advisory Committee on Electronics and Telecommunications (ACET)/

USNC Coordinating Committee on Electronics and Telecommunications (USCCET) Mr Williams noted that the USCCET is currently without a Chairman and several attempts have been made to find someone willing to serve. Anyone interested was invited to contact the Chairman and General Secretary. 8.5 Sector Board 1 – Electricity Transmission and Distribution SB 1 USNC Representative Mr Herman Fletcher provided a brief report. (ATTACHMENT L) The following documents are attached for your information. ATTACHMENT M – SB1/123A/RM – Confirmed report of the SB 1 meeting held in Sapporo (JP) on 2004-07-07 ATTACHMENT N – SMB/2891/R – Report of SB 1 after the meeting held 2004-07-07 in Sapporo (JP) ATTACHMENT O – SB1/125/DA – Draft agenda for the SB 1 meeting to be held in Geneva on 2005-04-14 ATTACHMENT P – SB1(0504/Sec)9 – Day report of the SB 1 meeting held in Geneva on 2005-04-14 8.6 Sector Board 3 – Industrial Automation Systems A brief written report was provided by Dr Sushil Birla, GM, - SB 3 Chairman. (ATTACHMENT Q) 8.7 Sector Board 4 – Infrastructure of Telecommunications Networks 8.8 PACT – President’s Advisory Committee on Future Technology Mr Fletcher provided a brief oral report.

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Section 9. Future Meeting Dates Mr Zegers called attention to the following dates for future meetings and he noted that several conflicts have been reported. The Council will consider these dates during its 18 May meeting and the dates will be confirmed.

2005 Wed, 7 September - USNC TMC, NFPA HQ, Quincy, MA Sun-Fri, 16-21 October, 69th IEC General Meeting, Cape Town, South Africa 2006 Wednesday, 11 January (Tentative) (In conjunction with Council) Tues/Wed, 7 – 8 Feb, IEC SMB, Geneva Wednesday, 5 April (Tentative) (In conjunction with Council) Wed/Thurs, 10 -11 May, IEC SMB, Geneva Wednesday, 9 August (Tentative) (In conjunction with Council) Monday/Friday, 25 – 29 September, Berlin, Germany (Recent Location Change)

Section 10. Summary of Action Items 10.1 Action Item R A Williams/C T Zegers

2005-05-17 #1 It was suggested that an effort be made through Mr Gene Eckhart of NEMA to enlist the support of the Association’s contacts in countries such as Brazil and China.

10.2 Action Item C T Zegers

2005-05-17 #2 Mr Zegers was directed to suggest this course of action (Re TC 91 and TC 86) to Mr Bergman and to seek his support. If his support is not given, the USNC SMB members will support the TC 86 position at the June meeting

10.3 Action Item R A Williams, D N Heirman, C T Zegers 2005-05-17 #3 It was agreed that an effort should be made to socialize this issue and to draw attention to the concerns expressed in Mr Heirman’s paper (Re Attribution). Messrs Williams, Heirman and Zegers will collaborate to determine what the appropriate mechanism might be utilized to accomplish this goal.

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Section 11. Adjournment

The meeting was adjourned at 3:40 p.m.

Respectfully submitted, Charles T Zegers General Secretary, USNC/IEC 15 July 2005