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    >> I do not propose that we occupy Washington Square Park immediately,> only that we begin planning for it. On Wednesday, we will have> significant numbers of people which we will want to encourage to stay> by any and all mans. I suggest that once the march returns to Liberty> Park, we use the People's Mic to announce that anyone who would like> to stay but cannot find space there, to form a march to Washington

    > Square Park to found a brand new encampment there.

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofDoug Singsen

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] Liberty Park is filling to capacity. We need to plan for overflow.

    Date: Sunday, October 02, 2011 11:04:28 PM

    We should only discuss future locations in person.

    On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 11:01 PM, shaista husain wrote:

    We are Occupy Wall Street, moving to Washington Square Park will makede-politicise this occupation its symbolic and direct action! We aregaining momentum because it is in Wall Street. If we do take thisanywhere else in NYC, it should be politically strategic change, likein front of the United Nations.I am sorry i will stand with the 99% wherever we decide to go, but weshould think strategically, even if we are larger in numbers, bymoving further from the heart of the problem and wall street, We willlose political clout. We need a place that send a resounding messageto the rest of the world. United Nations is a good place to occupy to

    get that message across.How? not sure, but there is a lot of space in front of the UN, not aslovely as washington square but politically more potent.

    On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:47 PM, hextic wrote:> Currently, the NYPD has allowed Liberty Park to be occupied, and from> what I see the occupation there is stable. Though, I am sure that> they are looking for any excuse to clear the park. One such excuse> could easily become sanitation or health concerns due to crowding.> These excuses are very PR-friendly for the NYPD.>> In order to expand the occupation we need to occupy another park,

    > preferably a larger one. We should absolutely continue to use Liberty> Park as our primary demonstration site and rallying point, but it will> not house the entire 99%. I propose that we explore how we might> assume control of Washington Square Park. As public land, there is no> excuse for eviction that we are trespassing. A physically large> presence in the park will make NYPD interference difficult because> they will have to wade through a sea of people to find the one person> who happens to be wearing a mask or more recently, has chained a> bicycle to something. There are arches which we can triumphantly> march through and return through. The open aerial coverage presents> multiple excellent media photography opportunities, capturing us as a> sea of people like the pictures we saw from Tahrir Square in Egypt.

    >> This move would also serve to greatly expand the demonstration. I> suspect that the Liberty Park demonstration is self-limiting. People> will not willingly walk into a too-dense crowd of people. So, the> physical dimensions of Liberty Plaza limits the number of occupants> naturally, potentially making the choice between whether a person> stays the night, ensuring participation the next day or not.>> I do not propose that we occupy Washington Square Park immediately,> only that we begin planning for it. On Wednesday, we will have

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

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    > significant numbers of people which we will want to encourage to stay> by any and all mans. I suggest that once the march returns to Liberty> Park, we use the People's Mic to announce that anyone who would like> to stay but cannot find space there, to form a march to Washington> Square Park to found a brand new encampment there.

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofgrimwomyn

    To: [email protected]

    Cc: Alli McCracken

    Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [september17discuss] Re: Skype sesh with Occupy DC organizers Wed night?

    Date: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:14:25 PM

    I am 80% sure I can be on the call.....

    I am grimwomyn on skype--

    On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 12:21 PM, Drew H wrote:> I'm going to forward this to the sept17 list. I think someone will be able> to pick this up and run with it.> Though, wednesday is a really big day and it might be fairly hecktic!>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 11:14 AM, Alli McCracken wrote:>>>> Hi OccupyWallStreet team!>> I spoke with someone while I was there this weekend about organizing a>> Skype session between some of the people at Liberty Plaza and the organizers

    >> of the October 6th Freedom Plaza takeover in Washington DC. We are having a>> kickoff event on October 5th from 6-8pm and will be also skyping with>> activists in Egypt. It is my understanding this is something you guys might>> be interested in, and I want to confirm. It will be a GREAT way to get>> people in DC pumped for our occupation - everyone is so inspired by Occupy>> Wall Street.>> Let me know.>> Thanks!>> Alli>> CODEPINK>>>>

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    From: [email protected] behalf ofnikky schiller

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] 15 oct campeing videos

    Date: Monday, October 03, 2011 10:34:19 AM

    Ey everyonei would appreciate you inform me if you have or you will make any promotion video

    for the 15oct for me toupload it to the globalrevolution channelhere you go an examples:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y3X2VFruLM&feature=player_embedded

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU7-ryQAUDg&feature=player_embedded&noredirect=1

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyuUlCyv_-Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyziG5bUuBE&feature=relatedall the best

    Nikky

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    mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y3X2VFruLM&feature=player_embeddedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU7-ryQAUDg&feature=player_embedded&noredirect=1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU7-ryQAUDg&feature=player_embedded&noredirect=1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyuUlCyv_-Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyziG5bUuBE&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyziG5bUuBE&feature=relatedhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyuUlCyv_-Ahttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU7-ryQAUDg&feature=player_embedded&noredirect=1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU7-ryQAUDg&feature=player_embedded&noredirect=1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4y3X2VFruLM&feature=player_embeddedmailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]
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    From: [email protected] behalf ofPrudence Katze

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Everything okay at Liberty plaza?

    Date: Sunday, October 02, 2011 3:37:29 AM

    Amazing job on live stream today! You guys got like 20,000 people watching (ormore!) Going to try to heal up soon to join...

    in solidarity, Prudence

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    From: [email protected] behalf ofDMS

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Photos of yesterdays arrests

    Date: Sunday, October 02, 2011 11:05:05 AM

    http://davidscameracraft.blogspot.com/2011/10/700-arrested-during-occupy-wall-street.html

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    From: [email protected] behalf ofKatie Davison

    To: [email protected]; [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] press conference at 1p - livestream?

    Date: Monday, October 03, 2011 12:42:41 PM

    Hey All -

    Amy Goodman is going to be doing a press conference at 1p on the corner of Liberty and Broadwayabout the treatment of press by the police. She just settled a law suit with the NYPD from the RNC.

    Livestream?

    I think it would be great to ask her some questions about how the environment has changed with the

    rise of social media and how that has affected the treatment of independent journalist.

    I'll be in in like half an hour.

    Katie

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

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    From: [email protected] behalf ofnikky schiller

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Richard Wolfe Economist to speak at Open Forum tomorrow Tuesday at6pm

    Date: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:31:22 PM

    Hi Guys

    Richard Wolfe is speaking at 6pm tomorrow- it would be great if we could broadcastthis on the live stream-- if not can we record to post later? I will come by the mediastation to remind you at around 5:30.

    ThanksMaria

    347 276 7745

    Hi, this is Nikky, i w ould appreciate you confirm if anyone wil l be able tocovertomorrow forumthanksNikky

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

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    From: [email protected] behalf ofKatie Davison

    To: [email protected]; [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] today"s media minutes

    Date: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 1:04:12 AM

    Attachments: Media Meeting 10.4.11.docx

    Hey everyone -

    Working to add everyone to a comprehensive media team list. Attached are the minutes for today's

    media meeting. Sorry for the delay.

    Meeting for NY media team tomorrow at noon at Charlotte's Place.

    x Katie

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofDoug Singsen

    To: september17 ;NYC ISO;no-budget-cuts-ny-discussion

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] 74% of Daily News readers say OccupyWallSt is "a great cause"

    Date: Sunday, October 02, 2011 4:59:08 AM

    http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/10/01/2011-10-01_dozens_arrested_at_occupy_wall_street_protest_brooklyn_bridge_shut_down_.html?r=topnews

    http://www.nydailynews.com/nydn/poll.do?pollCmsUniqueId=20111001_occupying_wall_street&pollTitle=Occupying+Wall+Street&pollQuestion=Do+you+agree+with+the+protesters%3F&voteExpirationDate=&option_labels=Yes%2C+it%27s+a+great+cause.%3BNo%2C+they+don%27t+know+what+they%27re+fighting+for.%3BI%27m+not+sure.&20111001_occupying_wall_street=1&vote=vote

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/10/01/2011-10-01_dozens_arrested_at_occupy_wall_street_protest_brooklyn_bridge_shut_down_.html?r=topnewshttp://www.nydailynews.com/nydn/poll.do?pollCmsUniqueId=20111001_occupying_wall_street&pollTitle=Occupying+Wall+Street&pollQuestion=Do+you+agree+with+the+protesters%3F&voteExpirationDate=&option_labels=Yes%2C+it%27s+a+great+cause.%3BNo%2C+they+don%27t+know+what+they%27re+fighting+for.%3BI%27m+not+sure.&20111001_occupying_wall_street=1&vote=votehttp://www.nydailynews.com/nydn/poll.do?pollCmsUniqueId=20111001_occupying_wall_street&pollTitle=Occupying+Wall+Street&pollQuestion=Do+you+agree+with+the+protesters%3F&voteExpirationDate=&option_labels=Yes%2C+it%27s+a+great+cause.%3BNo%2C+they+don%27t+know+what+they%27re+fighting+for.%3BI%27m+not+sure.&20111001_occupying_wall_street=1&vote=votehttp://www.nydailynews.com/nydn/poll.do?pollCmsUniqueId=20111001_occupying_wall_street&pollTitle=Occupying+Wall+Street&pollQuestion=Do+you+agree+with+the+protesters%3F&voteExpirationDate=&option_labels=Yes%2C+it%27s+a+great+cause.%3BNo%2C+they+don%27t+know+what+they%27re+fighting+for.%3BI%27m+not+sure.&20111001_occupying_wall_street=1&vote=votehttp://www.nydailynews.com/nydn/poll.do?pollCmsUniqueId=20111001_occupying_wall_street&pollTitle=Occupying+Wall+Street&pollQuestion=Do+you+agree+with+the+protesters%3F&voteExpirationDate=&option_labels=Yes%2C+it%27s+a+great+cause.%3BNo%2C+they+don%27t+know+what+they%27re+fighting+for.%3BI%27m+not+sure.&20111001_occupying_wall_street=1&vote=votehttp://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/10/01/2011-10-01_dozens_arrested_at_occupy_wall_street_protest_brooklyn_bridge_shut_down_.html?r=topnewsmailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]
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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofYotam Marom

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] A piece about the occupation

    Date: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 1:20:44 PM

    Hi friends.

    I wrote a piece about the occupation. Figured I'd put it up here in case people findit useful in some way.http://www.zcommunications.org/a-brief-analysis-from-a-wall-street-occupier-by-yotam-maromSee you down there.

    Yotam

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofhextic

    To: september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] A submission for GA consideration.

    Date: Sunday, October 02, 2011 5:33:42 PM

    Please print copies of the contents of the following submission at

    Pastebin and pass them out to people in Liberty Park for me.

    http://pastebin.com/mrJULaAP

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofConor Toms Reed

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] ATTN TWEETERS: Tomorrow"s march moved to Foley Square--correct yrinfo!

    Date: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 6:35:39 PM

    Hello, OWS twitter-squad. Please update your info tweets to note that the mass

    4:30pm rally tomorrow at City Hall Park has been moved to Foley Square so it canbe given a marching permit (i.e. essentially no risk of arrest).

    https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707

    thanks!-Conor

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofDoug Singsen

    To: september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Direct Action committee is MIA?!?

    Date: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:13:56 PM

    There hasn't been any response to repeated questions on the listserv about the nextDirect Action committee meeting, and I can't find any info on it on the nycga or

    occupywallst websites either. We have two pressing decisions that need to be made:will we expand to another location, and what our plans are on Wednesday when themarch reaches OWS. If there's no word from Direct Action soon, I think we shouldcall a meeting of the committee tomorrow night, because this stuff needs to bediscussed in person asap.

    Doug

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofAlexandre Machado De Sant"Anna Carvalho

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Direct Participatory Democratic Network - Where Revolution Streches in theHorizon

    Date: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 3:37:03 PM

    Dear all;

    Talking to other people at Liberty Square, there is strong reason to believe that agood picture of what this occupation is all about has been conceptualized. This issomething that maybe everyone already recognized, intuitively or not. We aremarching not necessarily for demands, but for value systems. We are marching forvalues. Values such as solidarity, emancipation, social justice, humanization, humanrights, etc.In these values, that's where goals and demands fit, but above all - THIS IS W HYWE M ARCH!

    I'd like to share this vision of the movement with the broader collective. In the

    process, will attempt to(1) ditch the "one line demand meme", hopefully for good;(2) talk about what we are organically building -a Direct ParticipatoryDemocratic Network and(3) subvert-appropriate the "one line demand" meme to a "one line purpose" meme.Bear strong with me. It is a fun ride.For all those who have been following the developments in Liberty Square, we canobserve that the General Assembly became a convergence point for dissent socialmovements. Here we have feminists, queer groups, environmental groups, anti-wargroups, permaculture/foodies, anti-racism, anti-police brutality, pro-immigrants,human right activists, disabled body people, labor unions, animal rights andeven animals themselves (dogs and cats so far, :-). Not to mention a broadset of political orientations, such as marxists, anarchists, liberals, etc etc.

    All these individuals, organizations, and social movements recognized the legitimacyof the square to voice out their suppressed views to the public in hope of buildingempathy for change; they are all saying enough to representative democracyand are embracing direct participatory democracy as a better way to sharegrievances, build solidarity, and solve problems. Doing politics and life withpeopleand not forpeople or despite people, which is the status quo of our politik so far.This is why we cannot, under any circumstances, narrow our increasingly broad-based movement (and thus POWER) to a one line demand.It is time to open possibilities, not close them. How can we leverage the powerrallying at the General Assemblies? How can we make sure that they sew togetherthe strenght of scattered social movements into an unstoppable force? Through thepeople's Direct Participatory Democratic Network we are building.Let's Imagine, as Lennon w ould put it. General Assemblies at thecommunity level, at the city level, at state and national level, and finally at the globallevel, working with each other, in conversation with each other, building solidaritytogether and coordinating actions. All through physical means (offline) and virtual

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    agree, there is nothing apolitical in human affairs. This movement was clearly bornwith a leftist revolutionary call. Rather than a single demand, we have a "one linepurpose", under which all these dissent groups including pro-environment andanimal rights groups) rally around:we are a human struggle against oppression in al l its forms. Alas, a "oneline purpose".

    Domestic violence or neoliberal capitalism's biases and exclusions; humandestruction of the biosphere; all forms of personal or impersonaloppression perpetrated by individuals, groups, corporations, banks, corruptedstructures. we are a human struggle against oppression in al l its forms.This is it seems what we've been doing. The big picture. Whereis radicalism, revolution? It is on direct, autonomous, inclusive democracywhere voices are amplified and heard across miles, influencing memes andcoordinating actions to emancipate the human race and the planet. A way to knowwe are successful? When power recognizes the legitimacy of theGeneral Assembly constituency to speak for themselves and self-represent.

    THIS IS WHY W E MARCH . We march for values. Enough of Libert, Egalit,Fraternit. Rather, let's chant a new song:Humanization, Emancipation, Solidarity!Thoughts?

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    From: [email protected] on behalf [email protected]

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Expanding the movement.

    Date: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 8:12:50 PM

    One the Great things about OWS is it has become a center for LEFT

    activity in NYC. In that sprit this Saturday we are having our ownlittie take over of BMW funded BMW GUGGENHEIM SPACE is located at FirstPark in the Lower East Side off the 2nd Ave F Train stop. We will marchup from Liberity Squre at 530pm and be at the Space at 7. Our Demand isthat BMW stop selling a product that will end humanity.Here is the event bellowhttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=46302490#!/event.php?eid=274051842615950

    Also my friend has started a facebook encouraging people to leave therebankshttp://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=46302490#!/event.php?eid=274051842615950

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=46302490#!/event.php?eid=274051842615950http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=46302490#!/event.php?eid=274051842615950http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=46302490#!/event.php?eid=274051842615950http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=46302490#!/event.php?eid=274051842615950mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]
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    media will do everything in their power to quash the revolt. We cant let that happen.

    I f you l i ve anyw here near any o f these

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    Move to Amend. Take our

    petitions and materials with you and connect our

    efforts. The democracy

    movement is in the streets. We need to bring thatmovement into the

    Constitution, too.

    2011 started with the Arab Spring and the uprisings

    in Madison, WI, and other

    state capitals, and the revolt will continue through

    the Autumn in DC, NY, and

    other sites of occupation!

    Move to Amend will be there.

    In solidarity,

    Ben Manski, Lisa Graves, Laura Bonham, George Friday,David Cobb, and Kaitlin Sopoci-Belknap

    Move to Amend Executive Team

    Move to Amend

    P.O. Box 260217

    Madison, WI 53726-0217

    United States

    End Corporate Rule. Legalize Democracy. Move to Amend.

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    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    http://movetoamend.org/outreach-materialshttp://www.facebook.com/Move2Amendhttp://www.facebook.com/Move2Amendhttp://twitter.com/MoveToAmendhttp://twitter.com/MoveToAmendhttp://democracycharter.com/index.php?q=civicrm/mailing/optout&reset=1&jid=198&qid=1346478&h=1c2dc8b8c06d0a26http://movetoamend.org/civicrm/mailing/subscribe?reset=1&gid=3http://movetoamend.org/civicrm/mailing/subscribe?reset=1&gid=3http://democracycharter.com/index.php?q=civicrm/mailing/optout&reset=1&jid=198&qid=1346478&h=1c2dc8b8c06d0a26http://twitter.com/MoveToAmendhttp://www.facebook.com/Move2Amendhttp://movetoamend.org/outreach-materials
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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofGary Roland

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Guardian asks "Were you arrested on the Brooklyn Bridge?"

    Date: Sunday, October 02, 2011 7:03:08 PM

    They are trying to gather more information and are looking for more accounts. Ifyou were on the bridge and would like to contribute visit the following

    link: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/oct/02/occupy-wall-street-brooklyn-bridge-arrests?newsfeed=true and click on the email or twitter links.

    Solidarity in Struggle,

    ~GARY

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/oct/02/occupy-wall-street-brooklyn-bridge-arrests?newsfeed=truehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/oct/02/occupy-wall-street-brooklyn-bridge-arrests?newsfeed=truehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/oct/02/occupy-wall-street-brooklyn-bridge-arrests?newsfeed=truehttp://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2011/oct/02/occupy-wall-street-brooklyn-bridge-arrests?newsfeed=truemailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]
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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofVicente Rubio

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] How to cook a peaceful revolution: Guide/Roll-Up English

    Date: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:00:28 AM

    Attachments: Roll-Up_eng1.0..pdf

    This is a document elaborated by the SOL camp. It explains the structure of the

    working groups, commissions, general assembly, and all other processes going onthere. I put here just in case it is useful for discussion on possible future structuresand organization for the movement, both at the square and outside the square.

    Best,Vicente.

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

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    From: [email protected] on behalf [email protected]

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Love the Declaration

    Date: Monday, October 03, 2011 12:53:29 AM

    I am very critical guy, always talking about how I don't like certain

    things people on my side (the left) do and I wanted to say when i readthe Declartion I was moved by how much I agreed with it and thought itwas the perfect statement

    Love ya;ll !

    Dave

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofMicah White

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Multilingual Media Contacts

    Date: Monday, October 03, 2011 1:36:23 PM

    Hi,

    I need the names of anyone willing to speak to the media about #ows who speaks alanguage other than English.

    Right now, I especially need someone who speaks English. But, all other languagesare also necessary.

    Please email me your name, language spoken, and cell phone number.

    Thanks,

    Micah

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]
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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofBabak K

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Naomi Klein to speak Thursday 6pm OPEN FORUM southeast corner ofLiberty Plaza!

    Date: Monday, October 03, 2011 7:47:36 AM

    The empowerment and education committee organizes the 6pm Open Forum inviting

    academics and community activists to speak on issues relevant to OWS. Naomi Kleinwill be speaking at 6pm on Thursday!!! This is confirmed.

    Thanks!

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]
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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofVicente Rubio

    To: september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] NYTimes change of story

    Date: Sunday, October 02, 2011 3:48:48 AM

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/02/1022016/-New-York-Times-changes-its-story-on-blame-for-Brooklyn-Bridge-arrests?via=siderec

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/02/1022016/-New-York-Times-changes-its-story-on-blame-for-Brooklyn-Bridge-arrests?via=siderechttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/02/1022016/-New-York-Times-changes-its-story-on-blame-for-Brooklyn-Bridge-arrests?via=siderechttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/02/1022016/-New-York-Times-changes-its-story-on-blame-for-Brooklyn-Bridge-arrests?via=siderechttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/02/1022016/-New-York-Times-changes-its-story-on-blame-for-Brooklyn-Bridge-arrests?via=siderecmailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]
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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofMicah White

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] persons running wearethe99percent.tumblr.com

    Date: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:26:19 PM

    Can the persons running http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/ please email me off-list. We are getting contacted by journalists who want to speak with you.

    (By the way, I think you should win a webby - it is a wonderful site!)

    Thanks,

    Micah

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/http://wearethe99percent.tumblr.com/mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]
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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofConor Toms Reed

    To: [email protected]; [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Please add labor outreach working group mtg to tmrw"s OWS site calendar

    Date: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:35:56 PM

    Hello,

    The OWS labor outreach working group is meeting tomorrow at 6pm under the bigred sculpture. Will someone with admin capacities please add this to the OWS andNYCGA sites? Also, when can we get an updated OWS home page that briefly showsyesterday's arrest figures and key articles, but also importantly highlights this mega-march on Wednesday? No disrespect, but we need to tighten our online updates somore folks can get activated!

    -Conor

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]
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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofWinter Siroco

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Police leads the march into the street

    Date: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:51:29 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fockzr7rXys

    On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 3:48 AM, Vicente Rubio wrote:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/02/1022016/-New-York-Times-changes-its-story-on-blame-for-Brooklyn-Bridge-arrests?via=siderec

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fockzr7rXysmailto:[email protected]://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/02/1022016/-New-York-Times-changes-its-story-on-blame-for-Brooklyn-Bridge-arrests?via=siderechttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/02/1022016/-New-York-Times-changes-its-story-on-blame-for-Brooklyn-Bridge-arrests?via=siderechttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/02/1022016/-New-York-Times-changes-its-story-on-blame-for-Brooklyn-Bridge-arrests?via=siderechttp://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/10/02/1022016/-New-York-Times-changes-its-story-on-blame-for-Brooklyn-Bridge-arrests?via=siderecmailto:[email protected]://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fockzr7rXysmailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]
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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofgrimwomyn

    To: september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Promotion of the Kickstarter Campaign for Occupy Wall Street Media

    Date: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 2:50:43 PM

    Hey all,

    So we have 4 days left on the kickstarter campaign and a solid planabout the printed media to be produced, so PLEASE promote the campaigneverywhere you can!

    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/610964639/occupy-wall-street-media

    Thanks!grim

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]://www.kickstarter.com/projects/610964639/occupy-wall-street-mediahttp://www.kickstarter.com/projects/610964639/occupy-wall-street-mediamailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]
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    From: [email protected] on behalf [email protected]

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Propaganda

    Date: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:48:37 PM

    Here is another FOX News story that can have a negative impact. Who

    recruited Anonymous' involvement anyway?

    http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/04/hacker-group-anonymous-threatens-to-attack-stock-exchange/

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/04/hacker-group-anonymous-threatens-to-attack-stock-exchange/http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/04/hacker-group-anonymous-threatens-to-attack-stock-exchange/http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/04/hacker-group-anonymous-threatens-to-attack-stock-exchange/http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/10/04/hacker-group-anonymous-threatens-to-attack-stock-exchange/mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]
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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofshaista husain

    To: [email protected]

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Proposal for working GROUP on Economics/Global Democracy or "GlobalEconomic Democracy"

    Date: Monday, October 03, 2011 4:54:36 PM

    Dear OccupyWallStreet,There are many of us who share Cesars concerns he has voiced about theimmigrant issue. THere are several of us who have been feelingfrustrated with the process and marginalized. Can you please ask theGA for approval to form this group tonight. We, Immigrants need tohave a space for discussion and inclusion to help mobilize, we wouldlike to form this group and bring our discussion to the GeneralAssembly. We are enthusiastic about the developments so far, we areeager to form this group and participate.We stand in solidarity!Shaista Husain

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]
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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofDrew Hornbein

    To: [email protected]

    Cc: september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: [NYCGA Internet] #OperationLiberty

    Date: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 11:34:56 AM

    Ken, this is amazing! I'm going to phone you right now and forward your post to a

    few other list servs.

    On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 3:11 AM, wrote:FutureFarming.Org is launching an all out effort to be the movementsupporting the movement. At www.FutureFarming.Org/OperationLiberty/there is a new forum to link supplies and needs, carpools, and allowpeople to express themselves. This will be followed by as many supplydrops as we can arrange, including trying to charter a few buses fromupstate to the City. So please Tweet this address, use it to postneeds and help people get rides and supplies to Liberty Square.

    I know there are other forums, but I am trying to consolidate, I have

    a team here that can moderate and help link carpools, supply need anddonations, and arrange some bus charters 24/7. I have people in ME,IN, NJ and of course upstate NY.

    we want to get this information out ASAP so we can bear some of theload from here for our brothers and sisters and start trying to marchin the calvary while you all hold down the fort.

    Our non-profits business line is 315-982-4430, text or call or emailif anyone needs more information, or has forum suggestions.Peace and (hopefully!) Warmth

    Ken KeplingerDirector - www.FutureFarming.Org

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]://www.futurefarming.org/OperationLiberty/http://www.futurefarming.org/http://www.futurefarming.org/http://www.futurefarming.org/OperationLiberty/mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]
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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofChris _

    To: september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Amalgamated Transit Union Support LONG TERM RESOURCE

    Date: Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:53:03 AM

    The things food will always need include water, flatware (plates,

    cups, forks, spoons, etc.) and hot, prepared food that can just begrabbed or handed off. However, we have been encountering struggleswith storage as of late, as it's very difficult to keep everythingorganized in such a small space, so if anyone has a storage facilityin the city where we could be able to keep things, that would bewonderful.

    On Oct 5, 12:21 am, keegan wrote:> Lawrence Hanley, International President of the Amalgamated Transit> Union, contacted me about supporting us. They have released a public> statement of support for OWS and are mobilizing people for tomorrow.> He wanted to know if we have any specific needs for tomorrow's action> that he may be able to help with, and he wants me to keep him abreast> of specific needs we have for other actions and supplies in general.

    >> Direct Action, is there anything you would like me to ask of him for> tomorrow?>> Comfort, Food, everyone else is there anything specific you would like> me to ask him for? He will be a great resource for supplies and> funding.>> Amalgamated Transit Union is by far the most radical union around, and> Lawrence sits on the executive council of the AFL, as well, so his> support could be very helpful at important moments. Just let me know> if you want to contact him.>

    > Cheers.> Keegan> Time's Up!

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofhextic

    To: september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: ATTN TWEETERS: Tomorrow"s march moved to Foley Square--correct yrinfo!

    Date: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 7:25:39 PM

    It is too late to put this to GA attention, so I will tweet now on theone condition that we make an effort to pass a resolution that in thefuture we completely reject the entire idea of requiring a "permit" toexercise Constitutionally guaranteed rights. Of what possible,conceivable use is a freedom of speech and assembly which we must askfor? Asking for permissions implies legitimacy of a "no" answer. Theentire purpose of this freedom is to give us the ability tounilaterally assert ourselves when our representatives fail torepresent us. The requirement of a permit is a direct nullificationof what is an unbridgeable right.

    On Oct 4, 6:35 pm, Conor Toms Reed wrote:> Hello, OWS twitter-squad. Please update your info tweets to note that the> mass 4:30pm rally tomorrow at City Hall Park has been moved to Foley Square

    > so it can be given a marching permit (i.e. essentially no risk of arrest).>> https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707>> thanks!> -Conor

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]
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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofLauren

    To: september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: ATTN TWEETERS: Tomorrow"s march moved to Foley Square--correct yrinfo!

    Date: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 8:06:07 PM

    It also agrees that money is speech, that women are not a class forthe purpose of class action lawsuits, etc

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofhextic

    To: september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: ATTN TWEETERS: Tomorrow"s march moved to Foley Square--correct yrinfo!

    Date: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 6:43:53 PM

    For the benefit of others, I present the text of the 1st amendment.

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom ofspeech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably toassemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

    Where does it say in there that a permit is required? Where does itsay that I must ask the government's permission politely to disagreewith it? Nowhere, and through civil disobedience we can put these"laws" where they belong, a sad note in the history books.

    We have a just right to assembly and speech. If the city wants tostand in the way of this, let them. The Constitution trumps city law,

    not the other way around.

    On Oct 4, 6:35 pm, Conor Toms Reed wrote:> Hello, OWS twitter-squad. Please update your info tweets to note that the> mass 4:30pm rally tomorrow at City Hall Park has been moved to Foley Square> so it can be given a marching permit (i.e. essentially no risk of arrest).>> https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707>> thanks!> -Conor

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    Emails come from PST files that were linked to a post on biggovernment.com by Thomas Ryan. PDF by www.teapartycheer.com

    mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707https://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=282473051782707mailto:[email protected]:[email protected]:[email protected]
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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofRichard S.

    To: september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Direct Participatory Democratic Network - Where Revolution Streches inthe Horizon

    Date: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:19:29 PM

    Although I am not an active participant or Liberty Plaza Park camperright now, I cannot resist answering some of the messages/ideasexpressed on this e-mail list. If people feel I shouldn't be doingso, just let me know...

    Ale, I have two concerns when I read your description/message below.One is that in your idea about why we are marching (and I still caninclude myself in that "we" because I have been marching with many ofyou a lot of the time), you seem to have forgotten about the verycrushing, real, concrete economic hardship that is being inflicted onso many of us, about the crisis of unemployment in a society in whichemployment is required - at least at some point - for survival (and isalso used by many as a measure of one's worthiness to participate insociety), and about the absurd inequality of our economic system. I

    thought inequality was one of the main reasons that we are marching.So, I am always baffled by your repeated insistence on dropping"egalite" from the "song" that you think we should chant.

    Secondly, I love the idea of general assemblies spreading throughoutthe world to practice and create direct participatory democracy.However, I hope that the concept of direct, participatory democracybeing pursued does not have to include all the features of consensusprocess (or a particular kind of consensus process) that have beenpopular with activist groups for a while. (People who don't know saythis is all new, but I know it isn't. When I first joined the GA, Iwas surprised at how many details and gimmicks in the process wereidentical to what I'd seen in Direct Action Network a dozen yearsago.) My biggest fear in this area is with regard to the danger thatconsensus process has begun to be seen as a necessary ingredient indirect democracy (which it most certainly is not). I have heard thatthe GAs are really falling back on a form of majority voting prettyoften anyway (is this true?), but I think that the emphasis onconsensus, and the equation of many people (especially the neweractivists) between consensus and "real democracy" would be a drag onthe effectiveness and popularity of general assemblies in general. Iam also concerned that the movement for democratic assemblies might bedragged down by the numerous gimmicks that are peculiar to this trendin process, but which I don't see as necessary - e.g., everything from"vibes watching" to certain identity-based concepts of the progressivestack to the twinkling of fingers (I don't mind "twinkling," I do itmyself :) - but a lot of people don't see that as necessary at all).

    Because of time limits, I can't really comment adequately re. otherthoughts that have occurred to me. However, I will add that I don'tsee all concerns related to all different "dissent socialmovements" (which is a broad enough category to be very changeable anddebatable) as being "points" from which the social struggle andeventual revolution (I hope) to oppose and replace the present social-economic system can be waged with equal significance oreffectiveness. (Hoping that sentence is not too convoluted, butagain, my eloquence in this matter is limited by time, as I am a veryslow writer.) And while I know this is a terrible heresy here and

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    now, I do think that one "concern" and source of struggle that canunite the broadest range of people in a struggle against the root ofour problems is class. I would say, "class" as a concept that can bedebated, studied, updated beyond the usual stereotypical assumptions,but class nonetheless, based on people's economic role in thesociety. (Call me a dated old Marxist, if you like - though I was ananarchist activist first, well acquainted with these many supposedly"new" approaches a good number of years ago.)

    And, on a related point - or back to the first point - I also kind ofthought we were marching to address issues of economic power andcontrol that have been neglected by fashionable activist movements inour area for decades, which is one major reason we find ourselves inthe present social disaster.

    Anyway, I hope this message has not been too cumbersome, and onceagain, if I am too detached from the group (at least in physicalpresence) to be offering such lengthy and somewhat dissentingopinions, you (all) should just tell me, and I will take that intomajor consideration. :)

    Richard

    On Oct 4, 3:36 pm, "Alexandre Machado De Sant'Anna Carvalho" wrote:> Dear all;>> Talking to other people at Liberty Square, there is strong reason to> believe that a good picture of what this occupation is all about has been> conceptualized. This is something that maybe everyone already recognized,> intuitively or not. We are marching not necessarily for demands, but for> value systems. We are marching for values. Values such as solidarity,> emancipation, social justice, humanization, human rights, etc.> In these values, that's where goals and demands fit, but above all - *THIS> IS WHY WE MARCH!*

    >> I'd like to share this vision of the movement with the broader collective.> In the process, will attempt to>> (1) ditch the "one line demand meme", hopefully for good;> (2) talk about what we are organically building - a Direct Participatory> Democratic Network and> (3) subvert-appropriate the "one line demand" meme to a *"one line purpose"> meme.* Bear strong with me. It is a fun ride.>> For all those who have been following the developments in Liberty Square, we> can observe that the General Assembly became a convergence> point for dissent social movements. Here we have feminists, queer groups,> environmental groups, anti-war groups, permaculture/foodies, anti-racism,

    > anti-police brutality, pro-immigrants, human right activists, disabled body> people, labor unions, animal rights and even animals themselves (dogs and> cats so far, :-). Not to mention a broad set of political orientations, such> as marxists, anarchists, liberals, etc etc.>> All these individuals, organizations, and social movements recognized the> legitimacy of the square to voice out their suppressed views to the public> in hope of building empathy for change; they are all saying enough> to*representative democracy> * and are embracing *direct participatory democracy* as a better way to> share grievances, build solidarity, and solve problems. Doing politics and

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    > life *with* people and not* for* people or despite people, which is the> status quo of our politik so far. This is why we cannot, under any> circumstances, narrow our increasingly broad-based movement (and thus POWER)> to a one line demand.>> It is time to open possibilities, not close them. How can we leverage the> power rallying at the General Assemblies? How can we make sure that they sew> together the strenght of scattered social movements into an unstoppable

    > force? Through the people's Direct Participatory Democratic Network we are> building.>> *Let's Imagine, as Lennon would put it.* General Assemblies at the> community level, at the city level, at state and national level, and finally> at the global level, working with each other, in conversation with each> other, building solidarity together and coordinating actions. All through> physical means (offline) and virtual (online) means, maybe both. The> image of this process is a cluster of non-hierarchical, layer-based, General> Assemblies, federated and collaborating in the shape of concentric circles.>> GA's would have the legitimacy to solve issues pertaining to their> jurisdiction. So for instance, local level problems such as *public school> budget cuts* would be resolved at OccupyNYC cluster of General

    > Assemblies. National issues such as *renewable energy-based> economy*discussed and solved by outer rim of General Assemblies:> OccupyOregon,> OccupyNorthDakota, OccupyMassachusetts, etc. Global issues such as *Climate> Change or Neoliberal Capitalism* discussed and fought at the last outer> layer (OccupyPlanet), in coordination with> OccupySpain, OccupyGreece, OccupyBrazil, etc.>> Maybe we will soon realize that these old nation-state borders aren't even> necessary anymore. And that is when we really make history. It is about a> re-definition of borders, my dear friends, drawn by the people *with* the> people. Again, we are creating a non-hierarchical, layered *Direct> Participatory Democratic Network.* A framework that even though layered, is

    > still horizontal, much like ArcGIS (cartography software)> maps.>> These conversations would need to happen in a transparent,> collaborative, secure environment through a open-source platform where> voices on the squares are amplified. Virtual participants must have> equal voice - some constituents are in hospital beds for example.>> However, only the Direct Participatory Democratic Network won't make power> bend. We need to invite power to change with the will of the people or clog> the machine to make it bend, with people power, at precise tactical leverage> points. For instance, and this is just an analogy to help clarify the> point, (disclaimer for the cops out there hearing this), if we have solid> internal intel from employees that blood diamonds are being invested and

    > traded through Chase bank institutions at the Financial District, we build> solidarity with social movements that oppose this> absurdity and #OccupyChase to shut it down. If queer marriage is being> blocked, we seek solidarity with social movements that are in favour> and find tactical leverage points to turn the wheel towards legislation,> policies, or whatever other demands those social movements have.>> The drafting of goals, demands or whetever should be primarily made by the> social movements that are affected by the issue at hand. Who better to draft> goals than the people directly affected? Who are we to draft demands for> these social movements? We can though be in solidarity WITH them and not FOR

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    > them... until power yields. So again, we leverage *in solidarity> *power converging> at General Assemblies and march. Whoever is in empathy with a particular> cause, goal or demand(s) participates in the smart tactical actions> developed to push for them.>> To build this direct participatory democratic network, absolute free speech> is crucial, where all voices, including right wing voices, are welcome. Will

    > this mean co-option? Not necessarily. How?>> This movement is not apolitical. It is not a neutral movement, as Brecht> would agree, there is nothing apolitical in human affairs. This movement> was clearly born with a leftist revolutionary call. Rather than a single> demand, we have a "one line purpose", under which all these dissent> groups including pro-environment and animal rights groups) rally around:>> *we are a human **struggle against oppression in all its forms.* Alas, a> "one line purpose".>> Domestic violence or neoliberal capitalism's biases and exclusions; human> destruction of the biosphere; all forms of personal or impersonal> oppression perpetrated by individuals, groups, corporations, banks,

    > corrupted structures. *we are a human struggle against oppression in all its> forms.*>> This is it seems what we've been doing. The big picture. Where> is radicalism, revolution? It is on direct, autonomous, inclusive democracy> where voices are amplified and heard across miles, influencing memes and> coordinating actions to emancipate the human race and the planet. A way to> know we are successful? When power recognizes the legitimacy of the> General Assembly constituency to speak for themselves and self-represent.>> *THIS IS WHY WE MARCH*. We march for values. Enough of Libert, Egalit,> Fraternit. Rather, let's chant a new song:> Humanization, Emancipation, Solidarity!

    >> Thoughts?>> **> **

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofJ Wedes

    To: Victoria Frye ; september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: facebook censorship?

    Date: Sunday, October 02, 2011 12:30:37 PM

    yes, just tweeted about this.

    can somebody research Facebook Terms of Service

    -justin

    On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Victoria Frye wrote:Hi,

    I went to this fbk page Minister Erik R. McGregor(Albums) and his photos areblacked out.Best,Tory

    Victoria (Tory) Frye

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofhextic

    To: september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Fwd: [Labor OWS] TWU Blasts City for NYPD commandeering MTAbuses, drivers, for Bridge arrests

    Date: Monday, October 03, 2011 10:25:57 AM

    Would these bus operators have any standing refusing to perform anillegal action and refusing to become an accomplice in what isessentially 700 counts of kidnapping and assault?

    On Oct 3, 9:53 am, Doug Singsen wrote:> ---------- Forwarded message ----------> From: [email protected] > Date: Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 9:45 AM> Subject: [Labor OWS] TWU Blasts City for NYPD commandeering MTA buses,> drivers, for Bridge arrests> To: [email protected]>> This is huge. TWU's response to this outrage is great.> Notice the cops got MTA bosses to order drivers to drive the commandeered

    > buses.>> ---------- Original Message ----------> From: Dan DiMaggio> To: [email protected]> Subject:TWU Blasts City for Putting Occupy Wall St. Arrestees on Buses> Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:36:47 -0400>> "The Transport Workers> Union will go to court Monday to try to stop the city from forcing bus> drivers to> transport Wall Street protesters arrested by the NYPD, the Daily News has> learned...> "TWU Local 100 supports the protesters on Wall Street and takes great> offense that the mayor and NYPD have ordered operators to transport citizens> who were exercising their constitutional right to protest - and shouldn't> have been arrested in the first place," Samuelsen said Sunday night.> Full:http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/10/03/2011-10-03_twu_blasts_...> ________________________________________________

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofhextic

    To: september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Fwd: Confirming our agreement to meet today, 2:30 pm

    Date: Monday, October 03, 2011 12:09:35 PM

    I will not be able to come myself, but could you perhaps provide a

    short background of what has occurred so far?

    On Oct 3, 11:27 am, J Wedes wrote:> Hey all,>> Who is able to join me for this meeting?>> The important discussions will be about local resident concerns of sound> level, public use of space, etc.>> Ro is from Community Board 1, and is considering even supporting our cause> after presenting a resolution AGAINST it that was voted down at a meeting> last week.>

    > /justin>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------> From: Ro Sheffe > Date: Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:31 AM> Subject: Confirming our agreement to meet today, 2:30 pm> To: Justin Wedes

    >> Justin,>> To confirm our phone conversation, we'll meet with you later today, at 2:30> pm, as we agreed:>> Monday, 3 Oct., 2:30 pm> *Meade's Restaurant*> 22 Peck Slip, at Water Street> Map: *http://g.co/maps/ywh5s>> * I look forward to seeing you there. I can be> contacted by cell phone if necessary at the number below.>

    > Thanks,>> -ro> 917-592-5284

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofhextic

    To: september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: hero"s email/phone

    Date: Sunday, October 02, 2011 3:10:05 PM

    Hero?

    On Oct 2, 2:50 pm, J Wedes wrote:> anyone got it?>> -justin

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofhextic

    To: september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Liberty Park is filling to capacity. We need to plan for overflow.

    Date: Monday, October 03, 2011 11:41:39 AM

    Is there a way that I can remotely participate in this meeting through

    Skype or something?

    On Oct 3, 10:26 am, Doug Singsen wrote:> We need to set a time to meet and discuss this. I assume this should be done> through the direct action committee. (The tactical committee seems to have> become direct action, I believe.)>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Will Gauss wrote:

    > > In my opinion, the First Amendment trumps city law. This is exactly the> > kind of chilling law which the First Amendment's assembly and speech> > protections is designed to prevent.>> > Sent from my iPhone>> > On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:28 AM, "Jackie DiSalvo" wrote:>> > ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** **>> > It is illegal for over 20 people to meet in a city park. ****>> > ** **

    > > ------------------------------>> > *From:* **september17@googlegroups**.**com** [mailto:**> > september17@googlegroups**.**com**] *On Behalf Of *Gabriel Johnson> > *Sent:* Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:59 PM> > *To:* **september17@googlegroups**.**com**> > *Subject:* Re: [september17discuss] ****Liberty** **Park**** is filling to> > capacity**.** We need to plan for overflow**.******>> > ** **>> > I was in the process of typing up a reply, saw your email, you are probably> > right**.** Key points: Public parks do technically close, and I don't> > think ****Washington** **Square** **Park**** is an ideal location for

    > > other reasons**.** Is "direct action" the new name for tactical? And when> > + where are the meetings?****>> > ** **>> > --glj****>> > ** **>> > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Doug Singsen < > > [email protected]> wrote:****

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    >> > Since this is a sensitive security issue, we may not want to discuss this> > on the public listserv because it's undoubtedly under police surveillance*> > *.** We should probably call a meeting of the direct action working group> > to discuss this in person**.**>> > Doug****>

    > > ** **>> > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:47 PM, hextic < > > [email protected]> wrote:****>> > Currently, the NYPD has allowed ****Liberty** **Park**** to be occupied,> > and from> > what I see the occupation there is stable**.** Though, I am sure that> > they are looking for any excuse to clear the park**.** One such excuse> > could easily become sanitation or health concerns due to crowding**.**> > These excuses are very PR-friendly for the NYPD**.**>> > In order to expand the occupation we need to occupy another park,> > preferably a larger one**.** We should absolutely continue to use ****

    > > Liberty****> > Park as our primary demonstration site and rallying point, but it will> > not house the entire 99%**.** I propose that we explore how we might> > assume control of ****Washington** **Square** **Park******.** As public> > land, there is no> > excuse for eviction that we are trespassing**.** A physically large> > presence in the park will make NYPD interference difficult because> > they will have to wade through a sea of people to find the one person> > who happens to be wearing a mask or more recently, has chained a> > bicycle to something**.** There are arches which we can triumphantly> > march through and return through**.** The open aerial coverage presents> > multiple excellent media photography opportunities, capturing us as a> > sea of people like the pictures we saw from ****Tahrir Square**** in ****

    > > Egypt******.**>> > This move would also serve to greatly expand the demonstration**.** I> > suspect that the ****Liberty** **Park**** demonstration is self-limiting**> > .** People> > will not willingly walk into a too-dense crowd of people**.** So, the> > physical dimensions of ****Liberty** **Plaza**** limits the number of> > occupants> > naturally, potentially making the choice between whether a person> > stays the night, ensuring participation the next day or not**.**>> > I do not propose that we occupy ****Washington** **Square** **Park****immediately,> > only that we begin planning for it**.** On Wednesday, we will have> > significant numbers of people which we will want to encourage to stay

    > > by any and all mans**.** I suggest that once the march returns to ****> > Liberty****> > Park, we use the People's Mic to announce that anyone who would like> > to stay but cannot find space there, to form a march to ****Washington****> > ****Square** **Park**** to found a brand new encampment there**.******>> > ** **>> > ** **> > ******************

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofMikeA

    To: september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Liberty Park is filling to capacity. We need to plan for overflow.

    Date: Monday, October 03, 2011 2:36:16 PM

    I can confirm that the Tactical Committee has indeed evolved into the

    Direct Action Committee. Those of us from the original TacticalCommittee are not really involved in the Direct Action Committee sincewe can't be in the park every day, but the new people who have takenover are doing an awesome job. I don't have contact info for any ofthem but I know that one of the more active members is named Chris. Tofind him and the rest of the committee, it's probably best to go to aGA and talk to them after the committee gives a report back. You canbe certain that they're already discussing this issue.

    As some people have already mentioned, it's best not to discusspotential new occupation locations on this listserve.

    -Mike Andrews

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofhextic

    To: september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Liberty Park is filling to capacity. We need to plan for overflow.

    Date: Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:57:32 PM

    Unfortunately, after my arrest on the 24th I can no longer physically

    be there. If it is possible for someone to store my proposal to bringup later, please, do share and remove my post here.

    On Oct 2, 10:55 pm, Doug Singsen wrote:> Since this is a sensitive security issue, we may not want to discuss this on> the public listserv because it's undoubtedly under police surveillance. We> should probably call a meeting of the direct action working group to discuss> this in person.>> Doug>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:47 PM, hextic wrote:> > Currently, the NYPD has allowed Liberty Park to be occupied, and from> > what I see the occupation there is stable. Though, I am sure that

    > > they are looking for any excuse to clear the park. One such excuse> > could easily become sanitation or health concerns due to crowding.> > These excuses are very PR-friendly for the NYPD.>> > In order to expand the occupation we need to occupy another park,> > preferably a larger one. We should absolutely continue to use Liberty> > Park as our primary demonstration site and rallying point, but it will> > not house the entire 99%. I propose that we explore how we might> > assume control of Washington Square Park. As public land, there is no> > excuse for eviction that we are trespassing. A physically large> > presence in the park will make NYPD interference difficult because> > they will have to wade through a sea of people to find the one person> > who happens to be wearing a mask or more recently, has chained a

    > > bicycle to something. There are arches which we can triumphantly> > march through and return through. The open aerial coverage presents> > multiple excellent media photography opportunities, capturing us as a> > sea of people like the pictures we saw from Tahrir Square in Egypt.>> > This move would also serve to greatly expand the demonstration. I> > suspect that the Liberty Park demonstration is self-limiting. People> > will not willingly walk into a too-dense crowd of people. So, the> > physical dimensions of Liberty Plaza limits the number of occupants> > naturally, potentially making the choice between whether a person> > stays the night, ensuring participation the next day or not.>> > I do not propose that we occupy Washington Square Park immediately,> > only that we begin planning for it. On Wednesday, we will have

    > > significant numbers of people which we will want to encourage to stay> > by any and all mans. I suggest that once the march returns to Liberty> > Park, we use the People's Mic to announce that anyone who would like> > to stay but cannot find space there, to form a march to Washington> > Square Park to found a brand new encampment there.

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    From: [email protected] on behalf ofhextic

    To: september17

    Subject: SPAM-MED: [september17discuss] Re: Multilingual Media Contacts

    Date: Monday, October 03, 2011 2:09:32 PM

    Will, arrested on the 24th, English speaker.

    On Oct 3, 1:35 pm, Micah White wrote:> Hi,>> I need the names of anyone willing to speak to the media about #ows who> speaks a language other than English.>> Right now, I especially need someone who speaks English. But, all other> languages are also necessary.>> Please email me your name, language spoken, and cell phone number.>> Thanks,>

    > Micah

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