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September 18th 2012

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Welcome• Welcome• Blog update, have a look at:• http://rodneysgenealogyblog.blogspot.co.uk/• Tony Sadler and Workhouses• Stuff from me, including our project• Stuff from you!

Workhouses

• Tony Sadler has been gathering information on Workhouses, what they were, how they worked, etc

• He is now in a position to show us what he has learned

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Family HistoryNational Subject Coordinator

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A Request from the Genealogy Group to all other U3A Members

Genealogy Group Leader Rodney Fox is planning a Group exercise for the autumn. He is seeking a U3A member who has NOT carried out research of his/her family tree. He plans to have members of the Group do it for you!

A Request from the Genealogy Group to all other U3A Members

The plan is to have members of the Genealogy Group work together with the basic information available that you can provide; to research generations of ancestors using the tools we have available, establish names, places and dates to develop the family tree, and then put all the information into a database.

A Request from the Genealogy Group to all other U3A MembersOf course, there is so much more to a person’s life than just a name and set of dates. Group members will attempt to find out much more about your ancestors. What sort of life did they have? Were they good at school? What did they do for a living? Did they improve themselves? Did they move house? Were they active in social, political or religious circles? Did they fight in the war? Did they emigrate? Did they die young? Did they leave a will? What was the cause of their death?

A Request from the Genealogy Group to all other U3A Members• We then plan to pull the whole family story

together in a format that will become a family heirloom.

• That’s our plan. Whether we can achieve all of the above remains to be seen. We are, after all, only amateurs.

• So, will you be our volunteer? Contact Rodney at Rodney@usfoxes.com to express an interest.

How will this help us?

• Increase our abilities to conduct genealogy research

• Increase our experience of using the range of research tools and databases

• Build up our skills at overcoming brick walls • Going beyond genealogy to family history• Learning to piece it all together

How will we do it?

• How do we select ?• Alan Bailey!• The remainder volunteers are identified to use

depending upon our success with Alan.• How will we gather the initial information

from Alan and other volunteers?

How will we do it?

• Someone to “own” the project”• Someone for censuses• Someone for BMDs• Someone for parish registers.• Someone to look for tombstones, etc and burial

records.• Someone for checking out existing family trees via

Genes Reunited, Ancestry, perhaps Rootsweb Mailing Lists.

How will we do it?

• Someone to gather and store information in their genealogy application, which should do all of the basics and produce an appropriate book at the end of the exercise.

• Someone to explore religious background for various ancestors.

• Someone to explore occupations for various ancestors.

How will we do it?

• Someone to see if there are any wills for any ancestors.

• Someone to check out emi/immigration for the various families

• Someone to gather appropriate photos/images for use in a final document

Family QuestionnaireYour name at birth?

When and where were you born?

Father's full name?

Nickname?

Mother's full name?

Nickname?

Where and when were your parents married?

What work did your father do?

Dis you visit his workplace?

Did your father serve in the Armed Forces?

Which / when?

Any medals?

Did your parents ever talk about their parents?

Their names and places of origin?

Their fathers' jobs?

When did your parents die, and where are they buried?

Do you have copies of birth / marraige / death certificates?

Did either of your parents leave a will?

What were the names of your brothers and sisters?

When and where were they born?

Did any of them die young?

Family QuestionnaireCan you remember the family home when you were young?

What schools did you and your siblings attend?

Dis your family attend church?

If so, which church?

Do you have any childhood memories of relatives?

Do you remember any family weddings when you were young?

Who was there, and who was absent?

Do you remember celebrating any national / local events in your childhood?

Are there any "stories" about ancestors handed down in your family?

Do you believe your ancestors have always been "local", or are there claims

to be from "somewhere else"in earlier generations?

When and where were you married?

What are/were the full names/date and place of birth of your spouse?

What are/were the full names/dates and places of birth of your children?

If spouse and children have died, when did they die and where are they buried?

Pedigree Chart / Famly Unit Chart / Certificates / Photos

Daphne’s dilemma• I have been looking at Elizabeth Vincent • Details are as follows • Born in Netherhampton in 1836• Found in 1841 and 1851 census (all OK so far)• I checked on another tree because I couldn't find her in 1861. • There was another tree in ancestory which she was on, this tree stated

that she married Henry Hibberd in 1860.• On this tree she subsequently had three children Henry 1861 Sarah

1863 and Ernest 1865.• • I checked and could find no evidence or any Marriage for her•

• .

Daphne’s dilemma

• I later found her in 1861 living with her brother George. • This makes me think there must have been two Elizabeth

Vincents. • My question is, if there is no record of any marriage on

record could there be records somwhere else?• Can I check to find if there were two Elizabeths.• This makes me also realise that it is no good just taking

someone else's tree to be correct everything needs to be double checked.

• Incidentally, I found Ernest Vincent living with his uncle in

1891.

Keith’s dilemma

• I have a cousin living in Australia who has recently been contacted by somebody over their who believes that they are related. Knowing of my interest in the subject my cousin mentioned it to me last week. All we know is that the family in Australia are Norton-Bakers and that the relationship is most likely on the Akers/Sadler side of my family (so might also be of interest to Tony!).

• My Dad's youngs brother's middle name was Brisbane and the family lore was that he got that in honour of friends living there, but I now wonder if it was actually family.

• I have never explored the possibility of overseas relatives and I'm not sure where to start

Keith’s other dilemmaI have been trying to delve into my Dad's naval service. H was "hostilities only" in the RN from 1939-45. The only clue I have is his Navy bible inscribed by the ships chaplain. I've tried the ship's name and the chaplain's name as well as Dad's name, but maybe I've been looking in the wrong placeDad was Stanley Charles Thatcher, 18/1/12-22/11/89. His Bible is inscribed HMS Wellesley, 6/3/45, and signed F J Gillesbie (might be Gillespie), Charlain RNVR.

October Meeting

• There will be no meeting on 16th October.• Rodney is away• Keep up the good (research) work!• See you on November 20th!