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Bell Cornwell LLPPresentation to the OPC;
alterations to the Deer Park Proposals.
Wednesday 30th SeptemberThe Vine Church
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Introduction from Graham Bell; [BA, Dip.TP, MSc.(EA), FRGS]
� What is the purpose of this presentation tonight?
� What happens at the end of the presentation ?
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Where were we before tonight ?� These proposals for the Deer Park began many years before there was anything called a Neighbourhood
Plan [NP]
� The NP process and the Park proposals have got entwined and now run in parallel – a consequence never
envisaged originally
� The proposal was always going to be a special one-off proposition for the area within which it sits i.e. the
Odiham conservation area
� We took the owner’s ideas to the OPC first as a matter of courtesy and then later to the public via an
exhibition, web site information etc.
� We found ourselves watching the NP emergence from the side-lines – first contact was March 2015; LGS
letter from Steering Group
� When invited to comment on the NP we have made known our representations for the owner just like
many others have done so
� Following on now is the shape of the Deer Park with the main impacts we have as of today and the first
landscape master plan presented to the public
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Where are we now?� The Deer Park [only the Revell land] is now to be included in the emerging NP as a possible very large LGS
� Apart from this new matter we remain, in adopted planning terms, where we were before – [extract from
HDC plan to follow next]
� We are now able to suggest alterations following the exhibition responses which we received and then
considered and in many cases discussed personally with people at the time
� We are happy to present these alterations to the OPC and for you to discuss them at an appropriate time,
whenever that may be, but hopefully soon
� We can closely align these proposals to the NP ‘vision’ for the local area that has evolved with the
agreement of the community through your NP consultation process
� We are nearing the stage of the formal submission of an overall landscape-based scheme for this part of
the Park and an application for those elements needing planning permission.
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Main changes are relating to:
1. The landscape Plan overall
2. The Hub, off public car park
3. The Access & Footpaths
4. Deer Park fencing
5. Tree planting
6. The housing
7. Public Open Spaces
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Main changes
1. The Plan overall
� Issue – too ambitious – scale down in size
� Concern from owner of grass runway to north and increased tree planting in top
fields
� Surface water flows speeded through the site to the west
� Solution – leave other land to north alone – concentrate on single ownership of
42ha only
� Increase the likelihood of complete delivery by doing less
� Have wet woodland landscape in parts and restore ponds and help natural flow
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Main changes
2. The Hub, off the public car park
� Issue – not enough parking - how would it be run?
� Do we need a community building or something else ?
� Solution – increase area available for parking and events –
retain community building offer until not wanted officially
� Widen events field to increase potential uses
� Retain potential for level footpath to Health centre from
Palace Gate area
� Retain Hub as part of land offered to the OPC for the
community.
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Main changes
3. The Access & Footpaths
� Issue – road access unsafe for amount of traffic – don’t
want footpaths extinguished or diverted away from Deer
sanctuary field– don’t want footpaths fenced in or
corralled in high hedges
� Solution – leave as many footpaths alone as possible
� Reduce height of hedges and create viewpoints across the
Park
� Check safety of access with HCC/HDC Highway engineers.
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� Designed by WSP as a 4.1m
driveway and 2m joint
footway/cycleway within a
12m wide landscape zone
� Use an existing access point
onto Dunley's Hill
� Has been agreed by HDC
Highways as a suitable
junction
� Can become a part of the
new definitive footpath
network linking to FP17
� Is deliverable
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� No footpath extinguished in full – only 2 diversions
� 2 new definitive footpaths offered by landowner
� Overall increase in linear meters of footpaths across
the site– see chart
� Public open space areas will also increase the linear
meters of footpath but not counted here.
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Main changes
4. Deer Park fencing
� Issue – don’t like the idea of unsightly fences being seen
� How high?
� What do they look like?
� Where are they?
� Solution – follow the principle of a Pale boundary and
effectively hide the fencing in the landscape
� Use virtually invisible fencing
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Main changes
5. Tree planting
� Issue – the tree boundary will create a
continuous screen stopping our views into the
Park.
� Solution – show at a defined scale, the effect of
the spacing being suggested of 25m centres and
6m oak trees from year 1
� Relate to other established and Listed deer parks
– see ‘the Ride’ at Bushy Park [opposite].
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Main changes
6. The Park housing
� Issue – too much housing [12 units] – too large – Parkers
House not acceptable and too prominent
� Solution – lower the number of units by 4 [1/3rd less] and
give more plot size to provide significant landscape setting
to each
� Re-site houses away from any direct views
� Reduce size of Parkers House by 20% and re-site further
back into the site using stream and topography
� Relate to other examples of houses in Parks elsewhere.
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Main changes
7. Public Open Spaces
� Issue – what is offered and how and for how long?
� Is a lease to the OPC good enough ?
� What happens in 25 years time when a lease runs out ?
� Solution – clarify the land to be dedicated – [plan based on
landscape master plan to follow this page]
� Enlarge the area to provide better ‘events field’ and
permanent and overspill parking associated with it
� Clarify it is gifted in ownership through planning covenant to
OPC for ever not by lease
� Clarify that planning covenants on the land would be offered
at application stage
� Create owner/community liaison group for management
issues
� Is a lease to the OPC good enough ?
� What happens in 25 years time when a lease runs
outIssue – what is offered and how and for how
long?
� ?
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Summary� Continued liaison with OPC to allow this meeting to be held , is welcomed
� Changes [large and small] have been made to explain better or amend matters that created objection or
concern or misunderstanding at the exhibition
� More clarity will become apparent at an application stage to satisfy HDC decision makers that what is on
offer can be delivered securely and lawfully
� This is a one-off proposal for all the 42ha of land in a single ownership on the northern and eastern edges
of Odiham and North Warnborough
� Landscape enhancement and heritage restoration will be phased in relation to development so that one
does not occur without the other
� The landscape planting, restoration and open space is for future generations to enjoy, as well as all of us
now
� The scheme meets many aims of the NP vision agreed with the community – [NP statement follows] -
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Finally –
� It is a good scheme for the community with little impact
and many benefits and we hope you agree,
� Thank you for listening and are there any questions from
the Parish Councillors?
Summary cont’d.
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