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Bell Cornwell LLP Presentation to the OPC; alterations to the Deer Park Proposals. Wednesday 30 th September The Vine Church

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Bell Cornwell LLPPresentation to the OPC;

alterations to the Deer Park Proposals.

Wednesday 30th SeptemberThe Vine Church

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Introduction from Graham Bell; [BA, Dip.TP, MSc.(EA), FRGS]

� What is the purpose of this presentation tonight?

� What happens at the end of the presentation ?

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Where were we before tonight ?� These proposals for the Deer Park began many years before there was anything called a Neighbourhood

Plan [NP]

� The NP process and the Park proposals have got entwined and now run in parallel – a consequence never

envisaged originally

� The proposal was always going to be a special one-off proposition for the area within which it sits i.e. the

Odiham conservation area

� We took the owner’s ideas to the OPC first as a matter of courtesy and then later to the public via an

exhibition, web site information etc.

� We found ourselves watching the NP emergence from the side-lines – first contact was March 2015; LGS

letter from Steering Group

� When invited to comment on the NP we have made known our representations for the owner just like

many others have done so

� Following on now is the shape of the Deer Park with the main impacts we have as of today and the first

landscape master plan presented to the public

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Where are we now?� The Deer Park [only the Revell land] is now to be included in the emerging NP as a possible very large LGS

� Apart from this new matter we remain, in adopted planning terms, where we were before – [extract from

HDC plan to follow next]

� We are now able to suggest alterations following the exhibition responses which we received and then

considered and in many cases discussed personally with people at the time

� We are happy to present these alterations to the OPC and for you to discuss them at an appropriate time,

whenever that may be, but hopefully soon

� We can closely align these proposals to the NP ‘vision’ for the local area that has evolved with the

agreement of the community through your NP consultation process

� We are nearing the stage of the formal submission of an overall landscape-based scheme for this part of

the Park and an application for those elements needing planning permission.

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Main changes are relating to:

1. The landscape Plan overall

2. The Hub, off public car park

3. The Access & Footpaths

4. Deer Park fencing

5. Tree planting

6. The housing

7. Public Open Spaces

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Main changes

1. The Plan overall

� Issue – too ambitious – scale down in size

� Concern from owner of grass runway to north and increased tree planting in top

fields

� Surface water flows speeded through the site to the west

� Solution – leave other land to north alone – concentrate on single ownership of

42ha only

� Increase the likelihood of complete delivery by doing less

� Have wet woodland landscape in parts and restore ponds and help natural flow

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Main changes

2. The Hub, off the public car park

� Issue – not enough parking - how would it be run?

� Do we need a community building or something else ?

� Solution – increase area available for parking and events –

retain community building offer until not wanted officially

� Widen events field to increase potential uses

� Retain potential for level footpath to Health centre from

Palace Gate area

� Retain Hub as part of land offered to the OPC for the

community.

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Main changes

3. The Access & Footpaths

� Issue – road access unsafe for amount of traffic – don’t

want footpaths extinguished or diverted away from Deer

sanctuary field– don’t want footpaths fenced in or

corralled in high hedges

� Solution – leave as many footpaths alone as possible

� Reduce height of hedges and create viewpoints across the

Park

� Check safety of access with HCC/HDC Highway engineers.

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� Designed by WSP as a 4.1m

driveway and 2m joint

footway/cycleway within a

12m wide landscape zone

� Use an existing access point

onto Dunley's Hill

� Has been agreed by HDC

Highways as a suitable

junction

� Can become a part of the

new definitive footpath

network linking to FP17

� Is deliverable

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� No footpath extinguished in full – only 2 diversions

� 2 new definitive footpaths offered by landowner

� Overall increase in linear meters of footpaths across

the site– see chart

� Public open space areas will also increase the linear

meters of footpath but not counted here.

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Main changes

4. Deer Park fencing

� Issue – don’t like the idea of unsightly fences being seen

� How high?

� What do they look like?

� Where are they?

� Solution – follow the principle of a Pale boundary and

effectively hide the fencing in the landscape

� Use virtually invisible fencing

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Main changes

5. Tree planting

� Issue – the tree boundary will create a

continuous screen stopping our views into the

Park.

� Solution – show at a defined scale, the effect of

the spacing being suggested of 25m centres and

6m oak trees from year 1

� Relate to other established and Listed deer parks

– see ‘the Ride’ at Bushy Park [opposite].

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Main changes

6. The Park housing

� Issue – too much housing [12 units] – too large – Parkers

House not acceptable and too prominent

� Solution – lower the number of units by 4 [1/3rd less] and

give more plot size to provide significant landscape setting

to each

� Re-site houses away from any direct views

� Reduce size of Parkers House by 20% and re-site further

back into the site using stream and topography

� Relate to other examples of houses in Parks elsewhere.

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7. Public Open Spaces

� Issue – what is offered and how and for how long?

� Is a lease to the OPC good enough ?

� What happens in 25 years time when a lease runs out ?

� Solution – clarify the land to be dedicated – [plan based on

landscape master plan to follow this page]

� Enlarge the area to provide better ‘events field’ and

permanent and overspill parking associated with it

� Clarify it is gifted in ownership through planning covenant to

OPC for ever not by lease

� Clarify that planning covenants on the land would be offered

at application stage

� Create owner/community liaison group for management

issues

� Is a lease to the OPC good enough ?

� What happens in 25 years time when a lease runs

outIssue – what is offered and how and for how

long?

� ?

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Summary� Continued liaison with OPC to allow this meeting to be held , is welcomed

� Changes [large and small] have been made to explain better or amend matters that created objection or

concern or misunderstanding at the exhibition

� More clarity will become apparent at an application stage to satisfy HDC decision makers that what is on

offer can be delivered securely and lawfully

� This is a one-off proposal for all the 42ha of land in a single ownership on the northern and eastern edges

of Odiham and North Warnborough

� Landscape enhancement and heritage restoration will be phased in relation to development so that one

does not occur without the other

� The landscape planting, restoration and open space is for future generations to enjoy, as well as all of us

now

� The scheme meets many aims of the NP vision agreed with the community – [NP statement follows] -

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Finally –

� It is a good scheme for the community with little impact

and many benefits and we hope you agree,

� Thank you for listening and are there any questions from

the Parish Councillors?

Summary cont’d.

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