The Church and the Concept of Poverty
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Transcript of The Church and the Concept of Poverty
BYSTEVE CORBETT
AND BRIAN FIKKERT
CO-AUTHORS OF WHEN HELPING HURTS: HOW TO ALLEVIATE POVERTY
WITHOUT HURTING THE POOR…AND YOURSELF
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, 2009
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The Church and the Concept of Poverty
I John 3:17-18
If anyone has material possessions and sees his brother in need but has no pity on him, how can the love of
God be in him? Dear children, let us not love with words or tongue but with
actions and in truth.
Some Implications of I John 3:17-18
Some Implications of I John 3:17-18
What’s the Answer for Both Groups 1 and 2?
• It’s a slippery slope on both sides of the hill! (See James 2:18)
• While the kingdom is cosmic in scope, we fully believe that humans only experience the full benefits of the kingdom if they come to faith in Jesus Christ.
Q1: Can’t all of this emphasis on the kingdom lead us down the slippery slope of the social
gospel?
• The Implications of this are enormous:• Verbal Proclamation of the gospel is non-negotiable
in poverty alleviation, because “faith comes by hearing” (Romans 10:14)
• It is essential that frontline staff are Christians.
• The church has a central role to play, because the gospel has been committed to the church.
Q1: Can’t all of this emphasis on the kingdom lead us down the slippery slope of the social
gospel?
• Sometimes “yes” and sometimes “no.”• We do NOT believe the parachurch is inherently a
bad thing. See p. 46 of book.• It takes wisdom to know when particular ministries
should be housed directly under the authority of the local church.
• We do believe that parachurch agencies must be very intentional about building and empowering the local church.
• Some parachurch ministries—and some churches too—are really doing some lousy things with respect to poverty alleviation.
Q2: Do you believe—as many argue--that the parachurch is taking away the role of the local
church and is therefore bad?
No, there are different ways of stating the same concepts.
However, its not all up for grabs. The framework used in our book is consistent with the following key teachings of scripture: The multifacted nature of poverty: spiritual and
relational not just material The basic nature of human beings and of the world Individual AND Structural causes of poverty God’s grand plan: Creation-Fall-Redemption-Final
Restoration
Q3: Must we really all agree on just one definition of poverty?
• Very positively: “Of course!” is the most common response.
• It’s the gospel, so they have to respond positively!
• But it’s a process. We need to:• Keep preaching the gospel to ourselves every day.• Keep on working out the implications in practical
ways.
Q4: How are churches in the U.S. responding to the message that poverty is about broken
relationshipswe are all poor?
• NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! • If you have relational giving opportunities , seize
them.• If you have material giving opportunities, seize them:
• There is a material component to poverty!• Use money to support those on the frontlines of relational ministry
More money is desperately needed, but the issues are:
--How should it be used? --When should it be used?
Q5: Since poverty is about relationships, does this mean I need to stop giving of my money and just give
of my time?
• Our book takes cost of living differences into account using a methodology called “purchasing power parity” (PPP).
• PPP values all foreign goods in U.S. prices. So when we say a person is living on $1/day in India, it means their income in Indian rupees is sufficient to buy what you could purchase with a dollar in the U.S.
Q6: Doesn’t your book (p. 42) fail to take into account the vastly differences in costs of living
around the world?
• This does raise the important issue of “absolute” vs. “relative” poverty:• You are “absolutely” poor if your income falls below
some dollar amount.
• You are “relatively” poor if your income is low relative to others in your community.
• Both concepts have merit, particularly from a relational framework.
Q6: Doesn’t your book (p. 42) fail to take into account the vastly differences in costs of living
around the world?
• “Gentrification”: the process of renewal and rebuilding accompanying the influx of middle-class or affluent people into deteriorating areas that often displaces poorer residents.
FCS Urban Ministries in Atlanta Founded by Bob Lupton www.fcsministries.org
Q7: Are there any programs trying to harness/combat “gentrification”?
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