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AASHTO SOM, 2013 Tech Sec 4a Agenda
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Photo by Ross Metcalfe
AASHTO Subcommittee on Materials
Technical Section 4a, Rigid Pipe
South Lake Tahoe, NV
10:00–12:00 am, Wednesday, August 7, 2013
Meeting Minutes 1. Call to Order / Opening Remarks / General Business
2. Roll call. (Membership roster)
State Representative Present State Representative Present
AL Steven Ingram X NJ Eileen Sheehy
AK Michael San Angelo NY Bob Sack
CA Phil Stolarski NC Chris Peoples X
GA Richard Douds X OH Lloyd Welker
KS Rick Kreider X SC Merrill Zwanka X
LA Christopher Abadie X TN Bill Trolinger X
ME Richard Bradbury VA Andy Babish X
MA Clement Fung WV Aaron Gillispie X
MO Victoria Woods WI Steven Krebs
NE Mick Syslo AMRL Greg Uherek X
NV Reid Kaiser X
(2013 TS4a annual meeting sign-up sheets are Attachment 1).
3. Approval of 2012 minutes (Attachment 2).
- Minutes were reviewed during the session.
- Task force set up to help resolve NC’s negative for M 206 (TF 2013-01). NC DOT and ACPA
will be part of this task force.
- In the TS 4g webinar, it was decided to create an AASHTO standard for ASTM A 1064. This
standard will be put out for ballot in TS 4g. TS 4a will not look at A 1064, knowing we will have
an AASHTO specification in the near future.
- Action Item: A survey will be put together and sent out to see if states are using M 279 and M
253.
- Motion to approve minutes- AL DOT, 2nd
LA DOTD. TN DOT and OK DOT will be included in
the attendance record for the webinar that took place in Spring, 2013.
4. Resolve comments from the 2012 SOM Letter Ballot and Technical Section Ballot (N/A this year).
- We didn’t have any balloted items from last year- therefore we don’t have anything to discuss for
this item.
5. Discuss 2013 Technical Section Ballot (Attachment 3).
TS4a members- please be sure to turn in ballot votes as timely as possible in the future.
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- Reconfirmation of Standards
M 86M/M 86-09, Standard Specification for Nonreinforced Concrete Sewer, Storm Drain, and
Culvert Pipe
M 175M/M 175-05(2009), Standard Specification for Perforated Concrete Pipe
- Also, see 8. D.
6. Status of TS 4a assigned standards (Attachment 4).
7. Old Business:
Update on AASHTO Pipe Task Force: No update to give…
- This task force has not met in quite some time.
8. New Business:
A. Discussion Topics
“Friends” of TS 4a
- Each industry will have a singular representative.
- These friends will be included in the TS roster and they will receive ballots
Mid-year Webinar (April/May)
- Positive feedback was discussed about the webinar that was conducted in Spring 2013.
Research Liaison
- This person will coordinate with a task force that will be put together to submit research
ideas to NCHRP. This will be coordinated with the RAC members as well. Rick Kreider
will be the Research Liaison for TS 4a.
B. NCHRP Issues/Proposals
Are there any NCHRP, international or domestic scanning tours, or other proposals? We need
proposals to Jack Springer by Thursday afternoon.
NCHRP 20-07/Task 347: Test Methods to Determine the Hydraulic Performance of Culvert
Joints
The objective of this research is to develop recommended test methods for joint leakage (i.e.,
watertightness) in AASHTO standard format. The test method should consider the AASHTO
Standard Practice for Pipe Joint Selection for Highway culvert and Storm Drains –AASHTO
Designation: PP63-09.
- The contract is waiting to be signed for this research to begin.
VDOT submittal: CANDE Upgrade for 2014
- This proposal will be taken to Thursday’s meeting to review. The TS supports the proposal.
C. Correspondence, Calls, Meetings, Presentations by Industry
Interaction between NTPEP and industry pertaining to the potential prequalification of concrete
pipe plants through NTPEP. A draft copy of the proposed standard was provided for review by
the Tech Section. Comments were to be sent to Danny Lane (TN).
Comments by Katheryn Malusky and Danny Lane.
ACPA asked to address the Tech Section concerning this proposed Standard Practice.
- 45 minutes of discussion occurred surrounding the early draft of the standard practice.
From that discussion, two additional Task Forces were created (TF 2013-02 and TF 2013-
03), which are defined under “8.H. Additional Items”.
D. SOM Ballot Items (including any ASTM changes)
The following standards were discussed and will be advanced for the 2013 Subcommittee on
Materials Concurrent Ballot to address proposed changes to the equivalent ASTM standards
and/or proposed changes by task force members.
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M 170 (C 76-13a) Reinforced Concrete Culvert, Storm Drain and Sewer Pipe
Current Version:
6.2.4.7. A combination of portland cement, ground granulated blast-furnace slag (not to exceed 25 percent
of the total cementitious weight) and fly ash (not to exceed 25 percent of the total cementitious weight).
Proposed Version:
6.2.4.7 A combination of portland cement, ground granulated blast-furnace slag, and fly ash.
Chair’s Commentary: During recent discussions at the annual meetings and teleconferences, there has
been a question raised concerning the need for the fly ash upper limit. Optimum fly ash quantity is mix
dependent; attaching a maximum percent is counter-productive.
Current Version:
6.2.4.8. A combination of portland pozzolan cement and fly ash, provided the fly ash added does not
exceed 25 percent by weight of the portland pozzolan cement.
Proposed Version:
6.2.4.8 A combination of portland pozzolan cement and fly ash.
Chair’s Commentary: During recent discussions at the annual meetings and teleconferences, there has
been a question raised concerning the need for the fly ash upper limit. Proper testing is necessary to
define an optimum quantity. Attaching a maximum percent to fly ash use is counter-productive.
Current Version:
10.2.1. Steam Curing—Pipe may be placed in a curing chamber, free of outside drafts, and cured in a
moist atmosphere maintained by the injection of steam for such time and such temperature as may be
needed to enable the pipe to meet the strength requirements. The curing chamber shall be so constructed
as to allow full circulation of steam around the entire pipe.
Proposed Version:
10.2.1. Steam Curing—Pipe shall be placed in a curing chamber, free of outside drafts, and cured in a
moist atmosphere maintained by the injection of live steam for such time and such temperature as needed
to enable the pipe to meet the strength requirements. At no time shall the ambient temperature exceed
160°F. The curing chamber shall be so constructed as to allow full circulation around the inside and
outside of the pipe.
Current Version:
11.3.1. The load to produce a 0.01-in. crack or the ultimate load, as determined by the three-edge-bearing
method as described in T 280, shall be not less than that prescribed in Tables 1 to 5 for each respective
class of pipe. Pipe that support the prescribed load to produce the 0.01-in. crack and do not show a wider
crack shall be considered to have met the test requirement. It is not a requirement of this specification that
the pipe be cracked or loaded to failure during these tests. Pipe that have been tested only to the formation
of a 0.01-in. crack and that meet the 0.01-in. crack or lesser crack load requirements shall be accepted for
use. Three-edge-bearing test to ultimate load is not required for any class of pipe 60 in. or less in diameter
listed in Tables 1 to 5 provided all other requirements of this specification are met.
Proposed Version:
11.3.1 The load to produce a 0.01-in. crack or the ultimate load, as determined by the three-edge-bearing
method as described in T 280, shall be not less than that prescribed in Tables 1 to 5 for each respective
class of pipe. Pipe that support the prescribed load to produce the 0.01-in. crack and do not show a wider
crack shall be considered to have met the test requirement for D-load to produce a 0.01-in. crack. Pipe
that support the prescribed ultimate load without failure shall be considered to have met the test
requirement for ultimate load. It is not a requirement of this specification that the pipe be cracked or
loaded to failure during these tests.
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Also add immediately after Note 3:
Note 4 – With the approval of the specifying agency, and with at least one annual proof-of- design test to
ultimate load for the designated pipe size and class, pipe with diameters of 60-in. or less may be accepted
without performing the three-edge bearing test to ultimate load provided all other requirements of this
specification are met.
Chair’s Commentary: This section was rewritten by a task force due to a request by a DOT for better
clarification. This represents a second balloting attempt to get satisfactory wording.
Current Version:
11.9. Absorption—The absorption of a sample from the wall of the pipe, as determined in accordance
with T 280, shall not exceed 9 percent of the dry mass. Each sample shall have a minimum mass of 1.0
kg, shall be free of visible cracks, and shall represent the full wall thickness of the pipe. When the initial
absorption sample from a pipe fails to conform to this specification, the absorption test shall be made on
another sample from the same pipe and the results of the retest shall be substituted for the original test
results.
Proposed Version:
11.9 Absorption—At least once a year, determine the absorption according to T 280. The absorption of a
sample from the wall of the pipe shall not exceed 9 percent of the dry mass. Each sample shall have a
minimum mass of 1.0 kg, shall be free of visible cracks, and shall represent the full wall thickness of the
pipe. When the initial absorption sample from a pipe fails to conform to this specification, the absorption
test shall be made on another sample from the same pipe and the results of the retest shall be substituted
for the original test results
Chair’s Commentary: This section was rewritten by a task force due to a request by a DOT for better
clarification.
M 170M (C 76M-13a) Reinforced Concrete Culvert, Storm Drain and Sewer Pipe
Current Version:
6.2.4.7. A combination of portland cement, ground granulated blast-furnace slag (not to exceed 25 percent
of the total cementitious weight) and fly ash (not to exceed 25 percent of the total cementitious weight).
Proposed Version:
6.2.4.7 A combination of portland cement, ground granulated blast-furnace slag, and fly ash.
Chair’s Commentary: During recent discussions at the annual meetings and teleconferences, there has
been a question raised concerning the need for the fly ash upper limit. Proper testing is necessary to
define an optimum quantity. Attaching a maximum percent to fly ash use is counter-productive.
Current Version:
6.2.4.8. A combination of portland pozzolan cement and fly ash, provided the fly ash added does not
exceed 25 percent by weight of the portland pozzolan cement.
Proposed Version:
6.2.4.8 A combination of portland pozzolan cement and fly ash.
Chair’s Commentary: During recent discussions at the annual meetings and teleconferences, there has
been a question raised concerning the need for the fly ash upper limit. Proper testing is necessary to
define an optimum quantity. Attaching a maximum percent to fly ash use is counter-productive.
Current Version:
8.1.8.1. When splices are welded and are not lapped to the minimum requirements above, pull tests of
representative specimens shall develop at least 50 percent of the minimum specified strength of the steel,
and there shall be a minimum lap of 50 mm. For butt-welded splices in bars or wire, permitted only with
helically wound cages, pull tests of representative specimens shall develop at least 75 percent of the
minimum specified strength of the steel.
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Proposed Version:
8.1.8.1. When splices are welded and are not lapped to the minimum requirements above, pull tests of
representative specimens shall develop at least 50 % of the minimum specified ultimate strength of the
steel, and there shall be a minimum lap of 50 mm. For butt-welded splices in bars or wire, permitted only
with helically wound cages, pull tests of representative specimens shall develop at least 75 % of the
minimum specified ultimate strength of the steel.
Current Version:
10.2.1. Steam Curing—Pipe may be placed in a curing chamber, free of outside drafts, and cured in a
moist atmosphere maintained by the injection of steam for such time and such temperature as may be
needed to enable the pipe to meet the strength requirements. The curing chamber shall be so constructed
as to allow full circulation of steam around the entire pipe.
Proposed Version:
10.2.1. Steam Curing—Pipe shall be placed in a curing chamber, free of outside drafts, and cured in a
moist atmosphere maintained by the injection of live steam for such time and such temperature as needed
to enable the pipe to meet the strength requirements. At no time shall the ambient temperature exceed
71°C. The curing chamber shall be so constructed as to allow full circulation around the inside and
outside of the pipe.
M 199M/M 199 (C 478M/C 478-13) Precast Reinforced Concrete Manhole Sections
Current Version:
4.1.2.3. Ground Granulated Blast-Furnace Slag (GGBFS)—GGBFS shall conform to the requirements of
Grade 100 or 120 of M 302.
Proposed Version:
4.1.2.3. Slag Cement—Slag cement shall conform to the requirements of Grade 100 or 120 of M 302.
Current Version:
4.1.3.3. Slag modified portland cement only,
Proposed Version:
4.1.3.3. Portland pozzolan cement only,
Current Version:
6.4.2. When splices are welded and are not lapped to the minimum requirements in Section 6.4.1, pull
tests of representative specimens shall develop at least 50 percent of the minimum specified strength of
the steel, and there shall be a minimum lap of 50 mm [2 in.]. For butt welded splices in bars or wire,
permitted only with helically wound cages, pull tests of representative specimens shall develop at least 75
percent of the minimum specified strength of the steel.
6.5. Steel Hoop Splices—A representative sample steel hoop with welded splices shall develop at least 50
percent of the minimum specified strength of the steel, and there shall be a minimum lap of 50 mm [2 in.].
For butt-welded splices, the representative steel hoop sample shall develop at least 75 percent of the
minimum specified strength of the steel.
Proposed Version:
6.4.2 When splices are welded and are not lapped to the minimum requirements in 6.4.1, pull tests of
representative specimens shall develop at least 50 % of the minimum specified ultimate tensile strength of
the steel, and there shall be a minimum lap of 2 in. For butt welded splices in bars or wire, permitted only
with helically wound cages, pull tests of representative specimens shall develop at least 75 % of the
minimum specified ultimate tensile strength of the steel.
6.5 Steel Hoop Splices—A representative sample steel hoop with welded splices shall develop at least 50
% of the minimum specified ultimate tensile strength of the steel, and there shall be a minimum lap of 2
in. For butt welded splices, the representative steel hoop sample shall develop at least 75 % of the
minimum specified ultimate tensile strength of the steel.
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Current Version:
14.5.1.5. Currently does not exist.
Proposed Version:
14.5.1.5 For riser sections with openings, this section 14.5 is not permitted.
M 206M/M 206 (C 506M/C 506-13a) Reinforced Concrete Arch Culvert, Storm Drain, and Sewer
Pipe
Current Version:
6.2.4.7. A combination of portland cement, ground granulated blast-furnace slag (not to exceed 25 percent
of the total cementitious weight), and fly ash (not to exceed 25 percent of the total cementitious weight).
Proposed Version:
6.2.4.7 A combination of portland cement, ground granulated blast-furnace slag, and fly ash, or
Chair’s Commentary: During recent discussions at the annual meetings and teleconferences, there has
been a question raised concerning the need for the fly ash upper limit. Proper testing is necessary to
define an optimum quantity. Attaching a maximum percent to fly ash use is counter-productive.
Current Version:
8.1.6.1. When splices are welded and are not lapped to the minimum requirements above, pull tests of
representative specimens shall develop at least 90 percent of the specified design yield strength of the
circumferential wire and there shall be a minimum lap of 50 mm [2 in.] with sufficient weld length to
develop the required strength. For butt-welded splices in bars or wire, permitted only in helically wound
cages, pull tests of representative specimens shall develop at least 110 percent of the specified design
yield strength of the circumferential wire.
Proposed Version:
8.1.6.1 When splices are welded and are not lapped to the minimum requirements above, pull tests of
representative specimens shall develop at least 50 % of the minimum specified ultimate strength of the
circumferential wire, and there shall be a minimum lap of 2 in. with sufficient weld length to develop the
required strength. For butt welded splices in bars or wire, permitted only in helically wound cages, pull
tests of representative specimens shall develop at least 75 % of the minimum specified ultimate strength
of the circumferential wire.
Current Version:
10.2.1. Steam Curing—Pipe may be placed in a curing chamber free from outside drafts and cured in a
moist atmosphere maintained by the injection of steam for such time and such temperature as may be
needed to enable the pipe to meet the strength requirements. The curing chamber shall be so constructed
as to allow full circulation of steam around the entire pipe. The maximum ambient temperature of the
curing chamber shall be 71°C [160°F].
Proposed Version:
10.2.1 Steam Curing—Pipe shall be placed in a curing chamber, free of outside drafts, and cured in a
moist atmosphere maintained by the injection of live steam for such time and such temperature as needed
to enable the pipe to meet the strength requirements. At no time shall the ambient temperature exceed
160°F. The curing chamber shall be so constructed as to allow full circulation around the inside and
outside of the pipe.
M 207M/M 207 (C 507M/C 507-13a) Reinforced Concrete Elliptical Culvert, Storm Drain, and
Sewer Pipe
Current Version:
6.2.4.7. A combination of portland cement, ground granulated blast-furnace slag (not to exceed 25 percent
of the total cementitious weight), and fly ash (not to exceed 25 percent of the total cementitious weight).
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Proposed Version:
6.2.4.7. A combination of portland cement, ground granulated blast-furnace slag, and fly ash.
Chair’s Commentary: During recent discussions at the annual meetings and teleconferences, there has
been a question raised concerning the need for the fly ash upper limit. Proper testing is necessary to
define an optimum quantity. Attaching a maximum percent to fly ash use is counter-productive.
Current Version:
8.1.6.1. When splices are welded and are not lapped to the minimum requirements in Section 8.1.6, pull
tests of representative specimens shall develop at least 90 percent of the specified design yield strength of
the circumferential wire and there shall be a minimum lap of 50 mm [2 in.] with sufficient weld length to
develop the required strength. For butt-welded splices in bars or wire, permitted only with helically
wound cages, pull tests of representative specimens shall develop at least 110 percent of the specified
design yield strength of the circumferential wire.
Proposed Version:
8.1.6.1. If splices are not welded, the reinforcement shall be lapped not less than 20 diameters for
deformed bars and deformed cold-worked wire, and 40 diameters for plain bars and cold-drawn wire. In
addition, where lapped cages of welded-wire fabric are used without welding, the lap shall contain a
longitudinal wire.
Current Version:
10.2.1. Steam Curing—Pipe may be placed in a curing chamber, free from outside drafts and cured in a
moist atmosphere maintained by the injection of steam, for such time and such temperature as may be
needed to enable the pipe to meet the strength requirements. The curing chamber shall be so constructed
as to allow full circulation of steam around the entire pipe. The maximum ambient temperature of the
curing chamber shall be 71°C [160°F].
Proposed Version:
10.2.1. Steam Curing—Pipe shall be placed in a curing chamber, free of outside drafts, and cured in a
moist atmosphere maintained by the injection of live steam for such time and such temperature as needed
to enable the pipe to meet the strength requirements. At no time shall the ambient temperature exceed
160°F. The curing chamber shall be so constructed as to allow full circulation around the inside and
outside of the pipe.
M 242M/M 242 (C 655M/C 655-12b) Reinforced Concrete D-Load Culvert, Storm Drain, and
Sewer Pipe
Current Version:
6.1.2.4. g) A combination of portland cement, ground granulated blast furnace slag (not to exceed 25
percent of the total cementious weight), and fly ash (not to exceed 25 percent of the total cementious
weight); or
Proposed Version:
6.1.2.4. g) A combination of portland cement, ground granulated blast-furnace slag, and fly ash, or
Chair’s Commentary: During recent discussions at the annual meetings and teleconferences, there has
been a question raised concerning the need for the fly ash upper limit. Proper testing is necessary to
define an optimum quantity. Attaching a maximum percent to fly ash use is counter-productive.
T 280 (C 497-13) Concrete Pipe, Manhole Sections, or Tile
Current Version:
13.6. Does not currently exist.
Proposed Version:
13.6. At the manufacturer’s option, an alternative method of applying the load F (such as at the bottom of
the pipe), other than at the top, as shown in Fig. 9, is allowed provided that the force across the joint
meets or exceeds the load required with the pipe properly restrained.
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Current Version:
16.6. Does not currently exist.
Proposed Version:
16.6. At the manufacturer’s option, an alternative method of applying the load F (such as at the bottom of
the pipe), other than at the top, as shown in Fig. 12, is allowed provided that the force across the joint
meets or exceeds the load required with the pipe properly restrained.
T 281 (C 301-13) Vitrified Clay Pipe
Current Version:
5.3.3.2. The contact edges shall consist of rubber strips alone, or hardwood strips with plaster of paris
fillets. Contact edges shall uniformly contact the outside barrel of the pipe.
Proposed Version:
5.3.3.2. The contact edges shall consist of rubber strips. Contact edges shall uniformly contact the outside
barrel of the pipe.
Current Version:
5.3.3.6. If hardwood strips with plaster of paris fillets are used as contact edges, the strips shall be
straight, and have a cross section not less than 25 mm [1 in.] in either direction. The bottom contact edges
shall have vertical sides, with the interior top corners having a radius of approximately 13 mm [1/2 in.].
The contact edges shall be securely fastened to the beams.
5.3.3.7. Plaster of paris fillets shall be cast on hardwood contact edges to provide uniform bearing contact
on the pipe barrel. Fillets shall be cast on the two lower contact edges and on the upper contact edge,
along the pipe crown. Sufficient excess plaster shall be removed from between the two lower contact
edges to eliminate the possibility of a single continuous lower contact. The pipe and contact edges shall
be joined while the plaster of paris is still workable. Testing shall be performed only after the fillets have
set.
Proposed Version:
5.3.3.6. and 5.3.3.7. have been removed.
Current Version:
5.4.2. For tests using rigid bearing beams, multiple loading rams may be used. Each ram must be the same
load range, connected by a common hydraulic system, and spaced above the top bearing beam to deliver a
uniformly distributed load. In testing pipe that is not straight, place it between the bearings in the position
that most nearly gives uniform loading on the pipe.
Proposed Version:
5.4.2. For tests using rigid bearing beams, multiple loading rams may be used. Each ram must have the
same load range, connected by a common hydraulic system, and spaced above the top bearing beam to
deliver a uniformly distributed load.
5.4.2.1 Using a straight edge, locate the most uniform bearing surface for testing. Using this location,
place the pipe bearing surfaces to achieve uniform loading.
5.4.2.2 The resultant load from the hydraulic cylinder or cylinders shall be applied equidistant from each
end as measured inside the barrel of the pipe as shown in Fig. 1.
E. Proposed New Standards
- None
F. Proposed New Task Forces
G. Standards Requiring Reconfirmation
(See 5. Above)
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H. Additional Items
- Rick Kreider’s position has changed within KDOT. He is no longer over the Materials section. He is
not sure how much longer he will be able to attend this meeting. He would like to see if someone
would step up and be the chairman of TS 4a.
- ACPA would like to submit some changes for M 170 regarding absorption testing. Testing would
need to be completed at least once a year.
Two Task Forces were created due to the discussion over the proposed Standard Practice for Precast
Concrete Products.
- TF 2013-02- Inspection of Precast Concrete Products. Taking the standard practice for
verification activities. Have a standard to include QMS requirements. This standard will include
the tools for inspection. Members: AK, FL, WV, NC, LA, ACPA, NPCA, PCI. Tim Rulke (FL)
will be the lead of this task force.
- TF 2013-03- Auditing the auditor- FHWA (Tim Aschenbrener), Kim Spahn (ACPA), Curt
Turgeon (MN), Darren Hazlett (TX), and Rick Kreider will chair this task force. This task force
should be supported by TS 5c. [NOTE: In addition, Phil Cutler (NPCA) and a yet unknown
PCI representative will also participate on the task force.]
9. Adjournment (1hr, 45 min)
FINAL COMMENTS: Request by Mr. Robert Horwhat (PennDOT) to join TS4a. Special thanks to
Mr. Metcalfe for the photo adorning the top of the meeting minutes.
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Attachment 2 2012 Annual Minutes/2013 Webinar Minutes
(Without Attachments) AASHTO Subcommittee on Materials
Technical Section 4a, Rigid Pipe
Biloxi, Mississippi
10:00–12:00 am, Wednesday, August 8, 2012
March 14, 2013 webinar in blue
Meeting Minutes 1. Call to Order / Opening Remarks / General Business
2. Roll call. (Membership roster)
State Representative Present State Representative Present
AL Steven Ingram √ NJ Eileen Sheehy
AK Michael San Angelo NY Bob Sack
CA Phil Stolarski NC Chris Peoples √
GA Richard Douds √ OH Lloyd Welker √
KS Rick Kreider √ SC Milt Fletcher √
LA Christopher Abadie √ TN Bill Trolinger √
ME Richard Bradbury VA Andy Babish √
MA Clement Fung WV Aaron Gillispie √
MO Victoria Woods WI Steven Krebs
NE Mick Syslo √ AMRL Greg Uherek
NV Reid Kaiser √
Roll call for March 14, 2013 webinar:
Name Employer Email Address
Katheryn Malusky AASHTO [email protected]
Reid Kaiser NV DOT [email protected]
Rick Kreider KS DOT [email protected]
Evan Rothblatt AASHTO [email protected]
Corey Haeder Cretex Concrete Products [email protected]
Clint Quillin AL DOT [email protected]
Chris Strickland AL DOT
Lyndi Blackburn AL DOT [email protected]
Milt Fletcher SC DOT [email protected]
Merrill Zwanka SC DOT [email protected]
Trygve Hoff ACPA [email protected]
Bill Dunn Langley Concrete Group [email protected]
Cabell Garbee NC DOT [email protected]
Bert Wintz LA DOTD [email protected]
Don Streeter NYS DOT [email protected]
Hugh Martin Hanson [email protected]
Kim Spahn ACPA [email protected]
Ed Harrigan NCHRP [email protected]
Tim Aschenbrener FHWA [email protected]
Eric Carleton Independent Concrete Pipe Company [email protected]
Georgene Geary GA DOT [email protected]
Josh Beakley ACPA [email protected]
TDOT
ODOT
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3. Approval of 2011 minutes (Attachment 1).
TS 4a Comments: Moved (SC), 2nd (TN), passed.
4. Resolve comments from the 2011 SOM Letter Ballot and Technical Section Ballot (Attachment
2). Chair was attempting to align AASHTO specs with ASTM, with help from ACPA. Due to the number of negatives,
the Chair elected to not adopt certain changes to the specifications. The negatives were consistent for Items 51, 52,
53, and 54. The Chair received a Motion of Support for this decision. Moved-NC, 2nd-
SC.
No comments when the group was asked for suggestions on moving forward from the previous year’s negatives.
ITEM 51 – Concurrent Ballot M 170.
Concurrent Ballot: Affirmative 44/52 votes. Negative 5/52 votes. No 3/52 votes. TS 4a Comments: OK will give suggested language for section 11.3.1. VA suggests that the language for absorption in 11.9 is too
liberal and needs to be tightened. VA also requests language that gives the states more options for additional testing.
Section 11.2 will remain as currently written. These comments will be the same for items 52, 53, and 54.
OK has given suggested language and New Jersey and the ACPA will review for acceptance.
VA negative due to number of absorption tests per year (1), proposed language is “Not less than one per year.”
MI and NC negatives withdrawn.
ITEM 52 – Concurrent Ballot M 170M.
Concurrent Ballot: Affirmative 44/52 votes. Negative 5/52 votes. No 3/52 votes. TS 4a Comments: 6.2.4.7-VA concerned why fly ash was limited. Task Force 12-02 will be created to review the fly ash restriction
and provide recommendations to the Tech Section.
ITEM 53 – Concurrent Ballot M 206M/M 206.
Concurrent Ballot: Affirmative 45/52 votes. Negative 4/52 votes. No 3/52 votes. TS 4a Comments: See comments above.
NC negative – sections 8.1.3.1 and 8.1.3.2 – NC believes the concrete cover was reduced too much, especially at the
spigot. ACPA was trying to make it consistent with circular pipe. Apparently, oval pipe is difficult to comply with
this requirement.
ITEM 54 – Concurrent Ballot M 207M/M 207.
Concurrent Ballot: Affirmative 45/52 votes. Negative 4/52 votes. No 3/52 votes. TS 4a Comments: See Comments above.
ITEM 55 – Concurrent Ballot M 242M/M 242.
Concurrent Ballot: Affirmative 46/52 votes. Negative 3/52 votes. No 3/52 votes. TS 4a Comments: Task Force 12-02 was created to address some of the negatives.
5. Discuss 2012 Technical Section Ballot (Attachment 3).
Reconfirmation of Standards
M 176M/M 176-07, Standard Specification for Porous Concrete Pipe
M 178M/M 178-07, Standard Specification for Concrete Drain Pipe TS 4a Comments: Chair discussed the tech section ballots that were initiated prior to the meeting.
M 176M and M 178M will be reconfirmed in 2012.
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6. Status of TS 4a assigned standards (Attachment 4). No comments.
7. Old Business:
Update on AASHTO Pipe Task Force
8. New Business:
A. Discussion Topics – none
Merrill Zwanka will discuss standard for pipe reinforcement in TS4g for A1064 Steel Wire and Welded
Wire used for reinforcement.
Josh Beakley, ACPA, advised it is time to review AASHTO Box Culvert standards and will bring this up
at the 2013 SOM Conference.
B. NCHRP Issues/Proposals - none
Are there any NCHRP, international or domestic scanning tours, or other proposals? We need
proposals to Jack Springer by Thursday afternoon.
C. Correspondence, Calls, Meetings, Presentations by Industry
Interaction between NTPEP and industry pertaining to the potential prequalification of concrete
pipe plants through NTPEP. The only meeting took place just prior to TRB. Perhaps we can get an
update from Katheryn Malusky (NTPEP). Katheryn Malusky updated the group on the involvement
of AASHTO and Dennis Dvorak (FHWA).
Katheryn Malusky – NTPEP QA/QC pipe products – draft document will be released April 1, 2013 to
the group requesting comments. This will be further discussed at 2013 SOM Conference.
D. SOM Ballot Items (including any ASTM changes)
The following standards will be discussed and advanced for the 2012 Subcommittee on Materials
Concurrent Ballot to address proposed changes to the equivalent ASTM standards. Chair will send
out ballots in 2014 once changes are completed.
E. Proposed New Standards-none.
F. Proposed New Task Forces-2 new task forces;
TF 12-01-KS (Chair), NJ, OK, OH and ACPA will review M 170 and suggest language for
11.3 and 11.9.
TF 12-02-VA (Chair), OH, WV, KS and ACPA will review language dealing with fly ash
and the amount that will be allowed in pipe manufacturing.
G. Standards Requiring Reconfirmation
(See 5. above)
9. Adjournment
TS 4a Comments: Moved (NC), 2nd (OH), passed.
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Attachment 3
2013 TS 4a Ballot Items
Num. Ballot Item SOM Concurrent 1 Concurrent ballot item to revise M 170. See pages 3 and
4 of the minutes. X
2 Concurrent ballot item to revise M 170M. See pages 4 and 5 of the minutes.
X
3 Concurrent ballot item to revise M 199. See pages 5 and 6 of the minutes.
X
4 Concurrent ballot item to revise M 206. See page 6 of the minutes.
X
5 Concurrent ballot item to revise M 207. See pages 6 and 7 of the minutes.
X
6 Concurrent ballot item to revise M 242. See page 7 of the minutes.
X
7 Concurrent ballot item to revise T 280. See pages 7 and 8 of the minutes.
X
8 Concurrent ballot item to revise T 281. See page 8 of the minutes.
X
Two standards currently out for Technical Section Ballot reconfirmation review are:
M 86M/M 86-09, Standard Specification for Nonreinforced Concrete Sewer, Storm Drain, and
Culvert Pipe
M 175M/M 175-05(2009), Standard Specification for Perforated Concrete Pipe
Both Standards have received greater than two-thirds majority vote to reconfirm by the
Technical Section.
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Attachment 4
Status of Standards
AASHTO # AASHTO YR ASTM EQ
YR ASTM # ASTM LATEST YR
Updated STD Type Comments
M 86M/M 86 09 07/07 C 14M/C 14 11/11 B
M 170 12 11 C 76 13a B
M 170M 12 11a C 76M 13a B
M 175M/M 175 09 03/03 C 444M/C 444 Reapprvd 09/09 B
M 176M/M 176 12 05a/05a C 654M/C 654 11/11 B
M 178M/M 178 12 05a/05a C 412M/C 412 11/11 B
M 199M/M 199 10 09/09 C 478M/C 478 13 B
M 206M/M 206 12 11/11 C 506M/C 506 13a B
M 207M/M 207 12 11/11 C 507M/C 507 13a B
M 242M/M 242 12 11/11 C 655M/C 655 12b B
M 259 11 95a C 789 Disc. N/A
M 259M 11 98 C 789M Disc. N/A
M 262 11 08b C 822 13 B
M 273 11 95a C 850 Disc. N/A
M 273M 11 98 C 850M Disc. N/A
T 280 06(10) 05 C 497 13 B
T 281 06(10) 98(04) C 301 13 B