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Technical Committee on Recreational Vehicles (REC-AAA)

M E M O R A N D U M

DATE: February 27, 2013

TO: Principal and Alternate Members of the Technical Committee on Recreational Vehicles (REC-AAA)

FROM: Chad Duffy, NFPA Staff Liaison Office: (617) 984-7262 Email: [email protected]

SUBJECT: AGENDA – NFPA 1192/1194 Second Draft Meeting (Fall 2013) March 26-27, 2013, at the Embassy Suites Phoenix - Tempe

1. Call to Order – March 26, 8:00am 2. Introductions and Attendance 3. Review Agenda 4. NFPA Staff Liaison Presentation and Review of Key Dates in Current Cycle 5. Chairman Comments 6. Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes 7. Act on Public Comments for NFPA 1192 8. Generate Second Revisions for NFPA 1192 9. Act on Public Comments for NFPA 1194 10. Generate Second Revisions or NFPA 1194 11. Other Business 12. Next Meeting 13. Adjourn Meeting

Please submit requests for additional agenda items to the chair at least seven days prior to the meeting, and notify the chair and staff liaison as soon as possible if you plan to introduce any second revisions at the meeting. All NFPA Technical Committee meetings are open to the public. Please contact me for information on attending a meeting as a guest. Read the Regulations Governing the Development of NFPA Standards (Section 3.3.3.3) for further information. Additional Meeting Information: See the Meeting Notice on the Document Information Pages (www.nfpa.org/1192 or www.nfpa.org/1194) for meeting location details. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact Elena Carroll, Project Administrator at 617-984-7952 or by email [email protected]. C. Standards Administration

Attachment #1: Previous Meeting Minutes

Technical Committee on Recreational Vehicles (REC‐AAA)

Meeting minutes of NFPA 1192/1194 First Draft Meeting (Fall 2013)

Tuesday, May 22 through May 24, 2012

Hilton Seattle

Seattle WA

Call to Order

Chairman John Harvey called the meeting to order at 8:00 PST. NFPA, Staff Liaison, Chad Duffy pointed

out the fire exits and detailed other exit procedures should an event occur that required evacuating the

meeting space.

Introductions and Attendance

Chairman Harvey asked each person in attendance to introduce themselves by stating their name and

affiliation. This included those that were attending via telephone. A roster was also passed around at the

beginning of each day to record those in attendance. Those in attendance were:

NAME OFFICE ORGANIZATION

Indicted participated via phone call‐in

Harvey, John Chair State of Washington

Hopkins, Bruce Secretary RVIA

Arnold, Thomas Principal T.R. Arnold & Associates, Inc.

Bloom, Christopher* Principal CJB Fire Consultants

Christner, Jeffrey* Principal Forest River, Inc.

Colwell, Jeff Principal Exponent

Foster, Dean Principal Thetford Corp.

Haas, Douglas Principal Fleetwood RV, Inc.

Habib, Khaled Principal Canadian Standards Assn.

Hoover, Jerome Principal Monaco RV, LLC

Jordal, Dale Principal Winnebago Industries, Inc.

Livingston, Bob Principal GS Media & Events

Luttich, Mark Principal Nebraska Public Service Comm.

Mihalick, David Principal Thor Industries, Inc.

Mulvaney, Doug Principal Kampgrounds of America, Inc.

Parrott, Kerry Principal Stahl Eng. & Failure Analysis

Staves, Homer Principal States Consulting

Swiecicki, Bruce Principal National Propane Gas Assn.

Taylor, Monte* Principal State of Oregon

Woodward, Leslie Principal Fairview Fittings & Manuf. Inc.

Bloom, Joseph Alternate Bloom Fire Investigation

Elliott, Wade Alternate National Assn. of RV Parks

Kleinknight, Joe Alternate Keystone RV Company

Perkins, Kent Alternate RVIA

Staves, Neil Alternate Staves Consulting

Duffy, Chad Staff Liaison National Fire Protection Assn.

Bielen, Richard Guest National Fire Protection Assn.

Cundy, Michael Guest Exponent, Inc.

Venalainen, Jonathan Guest CSA

Agenda Review

John Harvey reviewed the items listed on the agenda. NFPA Staff Liaison Chad Duffy provided additional

input by pointing out that each member of the committee has a membership classification that NFPA

uses to balance the committees’ interests. He stated if there is another interest that a member is

speaking to, that interest also needs to be disclosed. Voting rights were reviewed and alternates were

encouraged to execute their letter ballots when they were distributed. Chad pointed out that the

meeting would be conducted in accordance with Robert’s Rules of Order. The committee actions were

reviewed and it was stated that formal voting will be conducted via letter ballot. The committee roster

was also reviewed regarding make‐up percentage and members were reminded that no one interest

category could exceed 1/3.

NFPA Staff Presentation and Review of Key Dates in Current Cycle

Rich Bielen, NFPA, provided the NFPA Re‐Engineering Process of standards updating. This training

session was aimed at providing details of how the updating process worked, how it was to be handled

by the committee and the benefits of the changes. The information from this training session was to be

used in updating the NFPA 1192 and NFPA 1194 standards at this meeting. Rich stayed in the meeting to

address various questions as they arose.

The time line of activities was reviewed and members were referred to the “Key Dates” list that was part

of the agenda. The two dates highlighted were the posting of the first draft (Sept 7, 2012) and the final

date for the second draft meeting (May 3, 2013).

A question about a NITMAM was fielded by the NFPA Staff and the entire NITMAM process was

reviewed.

Referenced standards within the 1192 and 1194 were discussed. It was reported that the dates of

referenced standards are the responsibility of the technical committee. NFPA only updates the NFPA

standards.

Chairman Comments.

John Harvey welcomed the participants to Seattle and thanked everyone for their time to participate.

Approval of Previous Minutes

Upon a motion by Homer Staves, seconded by Joe Bloom, the minutes of the April 13, 2010, meeting in

Laughlin, NV were approved without change.

Discussion on Harmonization with the CSA

Jonathon Venalainen of CSA was called upon to report on the CSA‐NFPA RV Standards harmonization

project. He reported that CSA and NFPA with RVIA held a meeting in Quincy, MA back in March 2012

where there was a “mutual understanding” that harmonization would benefit the RV industry.Both

organizations agreed to more formally approach this goal. Jonathan stated that in the development of

the 2014 standards, it would be more of synchronization, but in 2017 we may be in a position to more

formally harmonize the standards.

Homer Staves asked if there was a campground standard comparable to NFPA 1194 in Canada. Jonathon

asked Khaled Habib, but they would need to look at the library of CSA Standards and get back to the

committee.

Provide response to Public Input for NFPA 1192 and NFPA 1194

There were nearly 100 individual code change public input and about 1 dozen committee input

combined for both standards that were debated and acted upon by the committee. Details of their

actions will be published in the First Draft Report that is to be posted by September 7, 2012.

Generate Committee Input for NFPA 1192 and NFPA 1194

No additional input beyond the committee proposals discussed above.

Unfinished Business

None

New Business

None

Next Meeting

The next meeting needs to be held prior to May 3, 2013. Date and location will be discussed and a

notice sent out when the time gets closer.

Meeting Adjourned

Attachment #2: Public Comment/1192

Public Comment No. 26-NFPA 1192-2012 [ Global Input ]

NOTE: This Comment received from Keith Jollay was submitted on First Revision (FR) No. 13 to delete the newly added text to Section 5.4.5 in the First Draft Report. FR 13 was submitted by the Committee to add a new Section 5.4.5 on Flame Failure Devices. FR 13 was balloted by the Committee and appeared in the PDF version of the First Draft Report and was posted on the Document Information Page on the NFPA website. FR 13 was inadvertently omitted from the electronic commentversion of the First Draft Report. The text added to NFPA 1192 by FR 13 in the First Draft Report was:

First Revision No. 13:NFPA 1192-2011

[FR 30: FileMaker]

5.4.5 Flame Failure Devices. Fuel-burning ranges and cooktops shall have a flame failure device on

all burners and pilot lights. This requirement shall not become effective until September 1, 2017.

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

RV and residential ranges are attended appliances during use of top burner(s) and provide direct line of sight during use of the appliance. As such, residential ranges are not required to provide a flame failure device on all burners. Thus, our position is the RV range requirements should directly align with the requirements of residential ranges.In addition, US and Canadian standards exist for 3rd party qualification, testing, and

certification (CSA, UL, etc.) for ranges. However, no agency standards define or reference proposed flame failure device(s) on top burners, or the testing criteria to qualify the intent of the proposed requirement. The addition of this requirement to NFPA 1192 would be in direct conflict with the available appliance standards as there are no requirements or tests procedures to verify or certify the intent of this requirement through independent 3rd party testing.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Keith Jollay

Organization: Suburban Mfg. Co.

Submittal Date: Mon Nov 26 07:53:09 EST 2012

Copyright Assignment

I, Keith Jollay, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.

By checking this box I affirm that I am Keith Jollay, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

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Public Comment No. 14-NFPA 1192-2012 [ Section No. 2.3.1 ]

2.3.1 ANSI Publications.

American National Standards Institute, Inc., 25 West 43rd Street, 4th Floor, New York, NY 10036.

ANSI B1.20.1, Pipe Threads, General Purpose (Inch), 2001.

ANSI /RVIA 12V, Low Voltage Systems in Conversion and Recreational Vehicles , 2002.

ANSI TSIC-1 Recommended Practice, Process Controls for Assembly of Wheels on Trailers, 2008.

ANSI Z535, Safety Alerting Standard Series, 2011.

ANSI Z97.1, Glazing Materials Used in Buildings, Safety Performance Specifications and Methods of Test, 1994.


NFPA Editorial Staff deleted the reference to ANSI/RVIA 12V Low Voltage Systems in Conversion and Recreational Vehicles from section 2.3.1 and re-inserted this reference into a new section 2.3.9 RVIA Publications. If the intent is to identify "where" publications can be obtained then the reference of ANSI TSIC-1 Recommended Practice, Process Controls for Assembly of Wheels on Trailers, 2008 should be moved to its own section because this document is not available from ANSI but rather the National Association of Trailer Manufacturers (NATM) 1320 SW Topeka Blvd., Topeka, KS 66612-1817. If the intent is to just to identify ANSI publication, then the ANSI RVIA 12V standard should remain under section 2.3.1 because it is a ANSI approved standard.


Submitter Full Name: Kent Perkins

Organization: Recreation Vehicle Industry As

Submittal Date: Thu Nov 15 08:13:55 EST 2012


I, Kent Perkins, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement ofProblem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.

By checking this box I affirm that I am Kent Perkins, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature




2.3.3 ASTM Publications.

ASTM International, 100 Barr Harbor Drive, P.O. Box C700, West Conshohocken, PA 19428-2959.

ASTM A 53/A53M, Standard Specifications for Pipe, Steel, Black and Hot-Dipped, Zinc-Coated Welded and Seamless, 2010.

ASTM A 539, Standard Specifications for Electric-Resistance Welded Coiled Steel Tubing for Gas and Fuel Oil Lines, 1999 (withdrawn 2004).

ASTM B 88, Standard Specifications for Seamless Copper Water Tube, 2009.

ASTM B 280, Specifications for Seamless Copper Tube for Air Conditioningand Refrigeration Field Service, 2008.

ASTM E 84, Standard Test Method for Surface Burning Characteristics of Building Materials, 2011c 2012b .

ASTM E 162, Standard Test Method for Surface Flammability of Materials Using a Radiant Heat Energy Source, 2011a 2012a .


Date updates


Submitter Full Name: Marcelo Hirschler

Organization: GBH International

Submittal Date: Sun Nov 04 23:08:57 EST 2012


I, Marcelo Hirschler, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.

By checking this box I affirm that I am Marcelo Hirschler, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature




2.3.4 CAN/ULC Publications.

Underwriters Laboratories of Canada, 7 Underwriters Road, Toronto, Ontario, Canada MIR 3A9.

CAN/ULC-S508, Standard for the Rating and Fire Testing of Fire Extinguishers, 2002 2004, revised 2009 (including amendments 1, 2 and 3)

CAN/ULC S504, Standard for Dry Chemical Fire Extinguishers, 2002 2012(including Amendments 1, 2, and 3).


Update referenced standard to most recent edition as indicated.


Submitter Full Name: John Bender

Organization: UL LLC

Submittal Date: Wed Oct 24 13:06:33 EDT 2012


I, John Bender, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.

By checking this box I affirm that I am John Bender, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature




2.3.8 RVIA Publications.

Recreation Vehicle Industry Association, 1896 Preston White Drive, Reston, VA 20191.

ANSI/RVIA, Low Voltage Systems in Conversion and Recreational Vehicles ,2011.


NFPA Editorial Staff deleted the reference to ANSI/RVIA 12V Low Voltage Systems in Conversion and Recreational Vehicles from section 2.3.1 and re-inserted this reference into a new section 2.3.9 RVIA Publications. If the intent is to identify "where" publications can be obtained then the reference of ANSI TSIC-1 Recommended Practice, Process Controls for Assembly of Wheels on Trailers, 2008 should be moved to its own section because this document is not available from ANSI but rather the National Association of Trailer Manufacturers (NATM) 1320 SW Topeka Blvd., Topeka, KS 66612-1817. If the intent is to just to identify ANSI publication, then the ANSI RVIA 12V standard should remain under section 2.3.1 because it is a ANSI approved standard.











2.3.10 UL Publications.

Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096.

ANSI/UL 21, Standard for LP-Gas Hose, 2007, Revised 2010.

ANSI/UL 94, Standard for Safety Test for Flammability of Plastic Materials for Parts in Devices and Appliances, 1996, Revised 2010 2012 .

ANSI/UL 125, Standard for Flow Control Valves for Anhydrous Ammonia and LP-Gas, 2009, Revised 2011.

ANSI/UL 144, Standard for LP-Gas Regulators, 1999, Revised 2010 2012 .

ANSI/UL 181, Standard for Safety Factory-Made Air Ducts and Air Connectors, 2005, Revised 2008.

ANSI/UL 217, Standard for Single and Multiple Station Smoke Alarms, 2006, Revised 2011 2012 .

ANSI/UL 299, Dry Chemical Extinguishers, 2012.

ANSI/UL 330, Standard for Hose and Hose Assemblies for Dispensing Flammable Liquids, 2009, Revised 2011.

ANSI/UL 484, Standard for Room Air Conditioners, 2007, Revised 2011 2012 .

ANSI/UL 569, Standard for Pigtails and Flexible Hose Connectors for LP-Gas, 1995, Revised 2009.

ANSI/UL 723, Test of Surface Burning Characteristics of Burning Materials, 2008, revised 2010.

ANSI/UL 842, Standard for Valves for Flammable Liquids, 2007, revised 2011 .

ANSI/UL 1484, Standard for Residential Gas Detectors, 2000, Revised 2010.

ANSI/UL 2034, Standard for Single and Multiple Station Carbon Monoxide Detectors, 2008, Revised 2009.

ANSI/UL 2061, Standard for Adapters and Cylinder Connection Devices for Portable LP-Gas Cylinder Assemblies, 2008, revised 2012 .

ANSI/UL 2227, Standard for Overfilling Prevention Devices, 2007, revised2009 .










3.3.27 Fuel Cell System.

The complete aggregate of equipment used to convert chemical fuel into usable electricity and which typically consists of a reformer, a stack, a power inverter, and auxiliary equipment.


The proposed change provides a better grammatical sentence structure.







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4.3.2

These labels shall be permanently affixed, in a manner that cannot be removed without destroying or defacing them, and be compatible with the surface to which they are applied.


The proposed new language exceeds what is required in theZ535 language (see referenced section below). There is no known problem with the permanence of the current labels. The language that says they cannot be removed without destroying or defacing them would not prevent the labels from being able to be removed without destroying of defacing the finish of the surface to which the label(s) are affixed.ANSI Z535.4 Product Safety Signs and Labels - Section 4, Definitions 4.11.2.1 permanent safety sign or label: Information affixed to a product to warn against potential exposure to hazards inherent in the normal use associated with the product, or which might be created during other reasonably anticipated product or misuse. The sign or label is to be permanently affixed to the product so that it cannot be easily removed.


Submitter Full Name: ANTHONY DOSMANN

Organization: [ Not Specified ]



I, ANTHONY DOSMANN, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.

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Public Comment No. 16-NFPA 1192-2012 [ Section No. 5.8.2.1 ]

5.8.2.1

Each recreational vehicle shall have a label affixed in a visible location at or near each propane supply connection or at the end of the piping. The label shall contain the word “Warning” with letters a minimum of 1⁄4 in. (6 mm) high letters and body text a minimum of 1⁄8 in. (3 mm) high letters on a contrasting background, that reads (as appropriate) as shown in Figure 5.8.2.1 . either of the following:Figure 5.8.2.1


The minimum dimension requirements for the word Warning and the body text are incorrect. They should be 1/4 in. and 1/8 in. respectfully not "1.4 in. & 1.8 in."










5.8.2.4

A permanent warning label with the word words “Warning” and "Danger" with letters a minimum of 1⁄4 in. (6 mm) high and body text a minimum of 1⁄8 in. (3 mm) high on a contrasting background shall be affixed in a visible location adjacent to fuel-burning ranges and shall read as shown in Figure 5.8.2.4.Figure 5.8.2.4


The required label (see Figure 5.8.2.4 in the FD - page 39) is actually a duel label and includes both "Warning" and "Danger." Currently the 5.9.2.4 text only addresses "Warning" and should include and identify the term "Danger."








6.1.

2 Combustibility2 Combustibility of Textile or Film Materials.

Where the walls, partitions, or ceilings consist of textile or film materials, such as tent fabric, insect screening, and flexible plastic weather protection, theyshall conform to the requirements of the flame propagation performance criteria contained in Test Method 1 or Test Method 2, as appropriate, of NFPA 701 49 CFR 571.302, paragraphs S4.3 and S5 of Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard No. 302, “Flammability of Interior Materials.”

Also, add a reference to NFPA 701 into section 2.2 on referenced NFPA publications: NFPA 701, Standard Methods of Fire Tests for Flame Propagation of Textiles and Films.




Experience with FMVSS 302 has demonstrated that it is a very mild test and two references follow: research work by NHTSA (at Southwest Research Institute) and an NFPA consensus document (NFPA 556) specifically devoted to fire safety of road vehicles, including recreational vehicles. The technical committee is correct in its statement that canvas is usually not a problem as an interior finish material, because canvas and other tent fabrics are usually required to comply with NFPA 701 (see, for example http://oceancitymd.gov/fire_department/firemarshal/forms/TentApplication.pdf, http://tentexperts.org/safety/safetyarticles/flammabilityrequirements, http://www.hss.doe.gov/nuclearsafety/techstds/docs/standard/std1088.pdf or http://osfm.fire.ca.gov/strucfireengineer/pdf/flameretardant/FrRegs.pdf ). The same is not true for other film materials, including insect screening and flexible plastic weather protection. Therefore, protection via NFPA 701 is important for such applications. Note that there is a tremendous discrepancy between the requirements for normal interior finish (ASTM E84 or ASTM E162), which are very reasonable, and the almost complete lack of requirements for interior finish if it is “tent fabric, insect screening, and flexible plastic weather protection”, since testing to FMVSS 302 is almost meaningless.

NFPA 701 is a fire test that is specific to textiles and films and is, therefore, fully applicable to its use for “textile or film materials, such as tent fabric, insect screening, and flexible plastic weather protection”, whether they are contained in a recreational vehicle or elsewhere.

A study commissioned by NHTSA at Southwest Research Institute (Battipaglia, K. C., A. L. Griffith, J. P. Huczek, M. L. Janssens, M. A. Miller, and K. R.Willson. October 2003. “Comparison of Fire Properties of Automotive Materials and Evaluation of Performance Levels” San Antonio, TX: Southwest Research Institute, for Department of Transportation, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration) has demonstrated that the fire safety associated with materials tested to FMVSS 302 is very poor.

NFPA 556 is a guide developed by NFPA specifically to look at the fire hazard of road vehicles. It is entitled “Guide on Methods for Evaluating Fire Hazard to Occupants of Passenger Road Vehicles”. NFPA 556 contains a series of tables with fire statistics that show the high level of fire losses associated with road vehicles.

NFPA 556 states as follows in section 5.3.4: “FMVSS 302 provides some measure of fire growth from a match-sized ignition source. However, because it involves only horizontal flame spread, FMVSS 302 provides no direct measure of flame spread on a vertical surface. It does not provide information on how a material might respond to the levels of external radiation input that inevitably occur as a fire grows larger and begins to involve multiple surfaces that exchange radiation.”










6.1.3 Use of Cellular Foam or Foamed Plastic Materials.

6.1.3.1 Cellular foam or foamed plastic materials shall not be used for interior finish (as defined in 3.3.34 ) in recreational vehicles , except as permitted in 6 . Exception No. 1: Cellular or

1.3.2 or for the incidental uses in 6.1.3.4.

6.1.3.2 A cellular foam or foamed plastic material shall be permitted to be used as interior finish if it has been tested to NFPA 286 and complies with the following:1. During the 40 kW exposure, flames shall not spread to the ceiling.

2. The flame shall not spread to the outer extremity of the sample on any wall or ceiling.

3. Flashover, as defined in NFPA 286, shall not occur.

4. The peak heat release rate throughout the test shall not exceed 800 kW.

6.1.3.3 Cellular foam or foamed plastic materials shall be permitted

on the basis of fire tests that substantiate their combustibility characteristics, for the use intended, in actual fire conditions.Exception No. 2: Incidental use of cellular or foamed materials for

to be used if the material is separated from the interior of the vehicle by anapproved thermal barrier of either ½ inch (12.7 mm) gypsum wallboard or amaterial that has been tested in accordance with and meets the acceptancecriteria of both the Temperature Transmission Fire Test and the Integrity FireTest of NFPA 275.

6.1.3.4 The cellular or foamed plastic materials shall be permitted to be used for incidental use in molding, trim, splash panels

,

and on doors

shall be permitted.

, but only if the material has a maximum thickness of ½ inch (12.7 mm), a maximum width of 8 inches (204 mm) and does not constitute more than 10 percent of the specific area to which it is attached.

Also, add NFPA 275 (Standard Method of Fire Tests for the Evaluation of Thermal Barriers Used over Foam Plastic Insulation) and NFPA 286 (Standard Method of Fire Test for Evaluating Contribution of Wall and Ceiling Interior Finish to Room Fire Growth) into chapter 2 on referencedstandards.

Additional Proposed Changes



File Name Description Approved

Comment_NFPA_1192_6_1_3_change_only.docxProposed text for 6.1.3.2 as it should read


The proposed wording does not require higher levels of fire performance but simply eliminates the exceptions, which is consistent with the policy in NFPA standards of replacing exceptions by specific instructions.

The exceptions to 6.1.3 are vague and difficult to comply with. Specific information on how to safely use cellular foam or foamed plastic materials exist via test methods and criteria that are used elsewhere (in the Life Safety Code (NFPA 101) and in the building and fire codes) to regulate these materials. NFPA 1192 correctly adopted the experience that indicated that foam plastics cannot be safely tested by means of ASTM E84 (or UL 723) by requiring that interior finish be tested to ASTM E84 (section 6.1.1.1) while excluding foam plastics from such a test. However, this need not exclude all foam plastics, as the exceptions correctly suggest. Typically, foam plastics are allowed to be used only when tested by an appropriate fire test. Since NFPA 286 was first developed, the phrase “fire tests that substantiate their combustibility characteristics” is now typically considered to refer to NFPA 286, the room corner test.

The new proposed 6.1.3.2 therefore lays out the criteria for approval via the fire test (it has the same criteria that is used in the codes but it eliminates the smoke requirements because NFPA 1192 does not have smoke requirements elsewhere). Note that NFPA 286 has no pass/fail criteria and the criteria must be added into the requirements.

The new proposed 6.1.3.3 is again consistent with the codes and states when foam plastics can safely be used if they are not exposed: when they are separated from the interior by a thermal barrier.

The new proposed 6.1.3.4 quantifies the exception regarding “incidental use”, which is a term that has not been defined in NFPA 1192. In accordance with the wishes of the technical committee, neither fire safety criteria nor material property criteria are included here but there is just a limitation in terms of size, again consistent with what is done in codes.










Public Comment No. 12-NFPA 1192-2012 [ Sections 6.2.1.1, 6.2.1.2 ]

Sections 6.2.1.1, 6.2.1.2

6.2.1.1 Each living and sleeping area in a recreational vehicle shall have one primary means of escape and at least one secondary means of escape.6.2.1.2*

A secondary means of escape shall not be required where the sleeping area or living

Each sleeping area shall have two different paths to escape to the outside of the recreational vehicle. Where more than one sleeping area is provided and a sleeping area has a door to the outside of the recreational vehicle , no additional escape is required for this area .


The revised wording above accomplishes the goal of providing adequate paths of escape for the recreational vehicle and for each sleeping area in the vehicle. This wording also harmonizes with the wording for NFPA 101 to address bedroom areas.


Submitter Full Name: David Mihalick

Organization: Thor Industries Inc.

Submittal Date: Wed Nov 14 11:31:35 EST 2012


I, David Mihalick, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.

By checking this box I affirm that I am David Mihalick, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature




Reject the recommendation of the Technical Committee and revise the original proposal as:

6.2.1.1 Each recreational vehicle shall have one primary means of escape and at least one secondary means of escape.

6.2.1.2 Each sleeping area shall have two means of escape.

Sections 6.2.1.1, 6.2.1.2

6.2.1.1

Each living and sleeping area in a recreational vehicle shall have one primary means of escape and at least one secondary means of escape.6.2.1.2*

A secondary means of escape shall not be required where the sleeping area or living area has a door to the outside of the recreational vehicle.


The approved proposal would require a door to the outside of the RV from every sleeping area. This is not practical as escape windows have been successfully used in the past. It was also determined that there is not a living area within an RV that doesn’t also serve as a sleeping area, so the reference to living area was deleted to eliminate confusion. Further, living area is not defined. Paragraph 6.2.1.2 modifications are to simplify the requirements, move closer to CSA harmonization and address the State of Oregon by clarifying two means of escape from each sleeping area.











6.4.7.5

An additional listed portable fire extinguisher with a minimum rating of 10-B:C, as defined in NFPA 10, Standard for Portable Fire Extinguishers, , shall beprovided in the cargo special transportation area within 24 in. (610mm 610mm ) of the exterior door that serves the cargo special transportation area. .


As currently written each individual exterior “cargo” compartment would need a fire extinguisher, technically no matter the compartment size. Therefore the above revision clarifies that the area needing an additional fire extinguisher is only the special transportation area as defined by section 6.4.7.











6.4.9 9 Protruding Component Operation.

6.4.9.1 Any protruding component that is operated by means of an electricalswitch or controller that can be accessible for operation when the vehicle is in transit, shall comply with the following:

(1) Be provided with momentary switching with nonlatching circuitry or the equivalent

Not

(2) Be interlocked to the transmission circuit and not be capable of activation while the vehicle is in

motion

(3) gear when installed on a motorhome.

(4) Not be capable of unintentional activation when installed on a towable RV.


Momentary switching for all protruding components should be mandatory and need to remain as part of the standard. Unintentional activation also needs to be prevented. Due to the operational differences between motor homes and trailers the unintentional activation requirement needs to be treated separately to allow it to be accomplished.






I, David Mihalick, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.





6.4.9 9 Protrouding Component Operation.

Any protruding component (i.e, awning, landing gear, level system or slide outs) that is operated by means of an electrical switch or controller accessible for operation when the vehicle is in transit, shall comply with the following:

(1) Be provided with momentary switching with nonlatching circuitry or theequivalent

(2) Not be capable of unintentional activation while the vehicle is in motion


The recommendation appears to remove the title from 6.4.9. This would result in a change to the current format that all three digit code numbers have a title within NFPA 1192. The term “any” protruding component is too broad and therefore by adding the specific items that qualify as protruding components helps clarify this requirement. When this requirement was proposed, the intent was for application to motor homes only.

In subsequent discussions, we felt it should also apply to towables. However, installing systems on trailers that are based on the movement of the vehicle is technologically impracticable. Unintentional activation was the bases for the proposal and this comment, if accepted, would clarify this. Specific methods of how to prevent accidental operation should be left to the market place.










Public Comment No. 21-NFPA 1192-2012 [ New Section after 7.3.6.3 ]

Re-insert existing NFPA 1192 2011 Section 7.3.6.3 as new 7.3.6.4 and renumber the rest of the section as necessary.

7.3.6.4 Piping systems shall be sized to provide a quantity of water to each plumbing fixture at a flow rate to keep the fixture in a clean and sanitary condition without backflow or siphonage.


The 2011 7.3.6.3 requirement was deleted with no rationale provided in the FR statement and needs to be retained in order to address necessary sizing and flow rate.











7.5.3.7 8

A caution label containing the word “Caution” with letters a minimum of 1/4 in. (6 mm) high and body text a minimum of 1/8 in. (3 mm) high on a contrasting background shall be affixed in a visible location adjacent to the tank flush valve inlet and shall read as follows:

CAUTIONDo not use the tank flush valve unless the fullway termination valve is in the

open position. May result in an unsanitary condition leading to illness or personal injury.


Editorial – the Technical Committee recommendation states – Add new section 7.5.3.8 to read as follows:











7.7.2.4

The potable-water storage tank shall be subjected to a static water test for 15 minutes by filling the system with water to overflow with no evidence of leaks.


FR 67 (7.3.7.1) already addresses the concerns regarding potential water leaks involving potable water storage tanks by establish criteria for support and securement. In addition, these tanks are already required to be pressure tested by the respective listing standard for tank integrity.






I, David Mihalick, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. Except to the extent that I may lack authority to make an assignment of content identified above, I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.


Origin (from sources other than the submitter)

RVIA Technical Subcommittee Actions




Reject this recommendation.

7.7.2.4 The potable-water storage tank shall be subjected to a static water test for 15 minutes by filling the system with

water to overflow with no evidence of leaks.

Add new section 7.7.2.5 to read as follows:

7.7.2.5 The entire pressurized water distribution system shall be subjected to a flow test by pressurizing the system with

water at a minimum of the demand pump pressure and operating each fixture faucet (both hot and cold) with no evidence of leaks .

Sections 7.7.2.4, 7.7.2.5

7.7.2.4 The potable-water storage tank shall be subjected to a static water test for 15 minutes by filling the system with water to overflow with no evidence of leaks.7.7.2.5

The entire pressurized water distribution system shall be subjected to a flow test by pressurizing the system with water at a minimum of the demand pump pressure and operating each fixture faucet (both hot and cold) with no evidence of leaks.


FR 67 (7.3.7.1) already addresses the concerns regarding potential water leaks involving potable water storage tanks by establishing criteria for support and securement. In addition, these tanks are already required to be pressure tested by the respective listing standard for tank integrity. The original proposal also did not include any empirical data to support the need for these additional tests, and testing by RV manufacturers shows this is not an area where leaks are occurring. Finally the environmental impact from the tremendous amount of water needed to perform these tests on an ongoing basis is not justified nor a sustainable practice.










7.7.2.5

The entire pressurized water distribution system shall be subjected to a flow test by pressurizing the system with water at a minimum of the demand pump pressure and operating each fixture faucet (both hot and cold) with no evidence of leaks.


Current Section 7.7.2 addresses safety concerns due to potable water system failure by requiring the plumbing system be tested with air or water. Present testing does not require a potable water fixture flow test, and the original proposal did not include it. The need for such a test is not supported by empirical data, would not improve safety and the resulting volume of water needed to satisfy this requirement far outweighs the potential benefit.


Submitter Full Name: Jerome Hoover

Organization: Navistar RV LLC

Submittal Date: Tue Nov 13 09:09:54 EST 2012


I, Jerome Hoover, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.

By checking this box I affirm that I am Jerome Hoover, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature




7.7.2.5

The entire pressurized water distribution system shall be subjected to a flow test by pressurizing the system with water at a minimum of the demand pump pressure and operating each fixture faucet (both hot and cold) with no evidence of leaks.Reject this recommendation

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved1192_Current_pg_2.docx continuation of substantiation


Section 7.7.2 already addresses the concerns regarding potential water leaks involving fixture faucets by requiring testing of the entire system with air or water. In addition, these faucets are already required to be tested by the respective listing standard for faucet performance integrity. The original proposal also did not include empirical data to support the need for these additional tests. Comparative evaluations on reported water leaks between manufacturing production lines that (1) Fill each potable water tank and water distribution system then subject the entire system to a flow test operating each fixture faucet (both hot and cold) as a routine process for each RV; and (2) Those that test the water distribution system with air only; indicates there is no substantial increase of reported leaks for the RV’s tested with air only. Please refer to the uploaded document for summary of findings.Finally, in accordance with sustainability initiatives of natural resources the environmental

impact from the amount of clean fresh water needed to perform this test multiplied by the number of RV’s produced annually on an ongoing basis, equaling millions of gallons of water industry wide, is not justified by the low percentage of potential leaks that may occur in these areas.


Submitter Full Name: Terry Current

Organization: Jayco, Inc.

Submittal Date: Tue Nov 20 09:47:06 EST 2012




I, Terry Current, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.

By checking this box I affirm that I am Terry Current, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature



Public Comment No. 20-NFPA 1192-2012 [ Chapter 8 ]

The proposed numbering system of this Chapter should align with the current numbering sequence that is present in the other chapters.Chapter 8 Vehicular Requirements.

8.1 Couplings.

8.1.1

Couplings shall be mounted to the attaching member by bolting, welding, or riveting in such a way that the minimum breaking load (see SAE J684,Couplings, Hitches, and Safety Chains —Automotive Type, Table 1) in the coupling is safely and adequately transferred to that member.8.1.2

Couplings shall be equipped with a manually operated mechanism to prevent disengagement of the coupling while the vehicle is in operation and shall be capable of being padlocked when engaged.8.1.3

It shall be possible to disengage couplings at any angle in azimuth and elevation between the trailer and the towing vehicle that can be accomplished by the coupling.8.1.4 Ball couplings and hitch balls, if supplied, shall be identified as complying with SAE J684, Couplings, Hitches, and Safety Chains —Automotive Type.8.1.5

Fifth-wheel and gooseneck couplings shall be identified as complying with SAE J2638, Fifth Wheel and Gooseneck Attachment Performance Up to 30000/Lb (13 608/Kg) Trailer GVW.8.2 Tongues and A-Frames.

8.2.1

If a tongue or A-frame is 40 in. (1000 mm) or less above ground level, as measured on a smooth, level surface, its length shall be determined by measuring the distance along the longitudinal axis of the tongue or A-frame from the centerline of the coupling ball socket to the vertical plane of the foremost part of the trailer body.8.2.2*

The length of the tongue or A-frame shall comply with either of the following:

(1) Be at least 35 in. (900 mm)

(2) Be sufficient to allow a 47 in. (1200 mm) rod pivoted in a horizontal plane about any point on a line running vertically through the center of the coupling to make an angle of 41 degrees or less with the centerline of the recreational vehicle before the end of the rod comes in contact with any part of the front of the recreational vehicle.

8.3 Safety Chains or Cables. 8.3.1

Trailers (except fifth-wheel trailers) shall be equipped with safety chains or cables for attachment to the towing vehicle.8.3.2



Safety chains or cables shall consist of two single lengths or one double length of chain or cable for attachment to two points on the towing vehicle and shall permit compliance with the requirements of the manufacturer’s instructions and as specified in 8.3.6.8.3.3

Safety chains shall be made of welded steel and safety cables shall be made of galvanized or stainless steel strands, either attached to the draw bar or A-frame in a way that, under normal operating conditions, does not allow tension to be placed directly on the means of attachment. The safety chains or cables shall not be welded to an A-frame or draw bar. The fastening attachment shall be permitted to be welded. A means for attaching safety chains or cables shall comply with the following:

(1) Have a rating equal to or greater than the rating of the chains

(2) Be designed to prevent disengagement while the trailer is being towed

8.3.4 Safety chains or cables, including each length of a pair, shall meet the strength requirements of SAE J684, Couplings, Hitches, and Safety Chains —Automotive Type, Table 4.8.3.5

Safety chains or cables shall be color coded or labeled as follows:

(1) Class 1: silver

(2) Class 2: brass

(3) Class 3: black

(4) Class 4: permanently labeled to indicate proof load rating on each cable and at least one link per length of chain attached to the recreational vehicle

8.3.6

The slack of each length of safety chain or cable attached to the towed vehicle shall be the same and not more than necessary to permit the towing vehicle and the towed vehicle to turn at their minimum radius.8.3.6.1 When passing forward to the towing vehicle, the chains or cables shall be oriented in a way that prevents the tongue from dropping to the ground and maintains a connection if the primary connecting system fails.8.3.7

Instructions indicating the recommended method of installing the safety chain or cable on the towing vehicle and attaching the chain or cable to the towed vehicle shall be provided with every trailer.8.4 Tie-Downs for Truck Campers.

Attachment points for tying down a truck camper to a carrying vehicle shall be provided.8.4.1

Instructions shall be provided with every tie-down and include the recommended method(s) of tying down the truck camper and the location and type of tie-down required.8.5 Lamps and Reflectors for Truck Campers. 8.5.1

The lamps specified in 8.5.2 through8.5.6 shall be fitted to truck campers except where they would duplicate lighting provided by the carrying vehicle.8.5.2



Lamp heights shall be measured vertically from the center of the lens to the road surface, with the truck camper installed on the carrying vehicle8.5.3 Paired lamps shall be separated by more than one-half the overall width of the vehicle, symmetrically disposed in a rear elevation with respect to the plane of symmetry of the truck camper, and positioned at the same height.8.5.4

The following lamps shall be fitted to the rear of every truck camper:

(1) Two tail lamps that emit a red light and are 15 in. to 72 in. (380 mm to 1830 mm) above the road surface

(2) Two stop signal lamps that emit a red light and are 15 in. to 72 in. (380 mm to 1830 mm) above the road surface

(3) Two turn signal lamps that emit an amber or red flashing light and are 15 in. to 83 in. (380 mm to 2110 mm) above the road surface

(4) One or more license plate lamps positioned to illuminate the rear license plate with white light

(5) On campers more than 79 in. (2000 mm) wide, two clearance lamps positioned as far apart as practicable but not separated by less than two-thirds the overall width of the vehicle, located as high as practicable and emitting a red light

(6) On campers more than 79 in. (2000 mm) wide, three identification lamps 6 in. to 12 in. (150 mm to 300 mm) apart that emit a red light, are located as high as practicable, and are symmetrically disposed about the centerline of the truck camper

8.5.5

The following lamps shall be fitted to the front of truck campers more than 79 in. (2000 mm) wide:

(1) Two clearance lamps positioned as far apart as practicable but not separated by less than two-thirds the overall width of the vehicle, located symmetrically as high as practicable and emitting an amber light

(2) Three identification lamps 6 in. to 12 in. (150 mm to 300 mm) apart that emit an amber light, are located as high as practicable, and aresymmetrically disposed about the centerline of the truck camper

8.5.6 When a truck camper extends beyond the rear of the carrying vehicle box, a lamp emitting a red light shall be fitted on each side of the truck camper as far to the rear as practicable and at least 15 in. (380 mm) above the road surface when the camper is installed on the carrying vehicle.8.6 Steps.

If provided at the exit(s) of a recreational vehicle, all exterior steps shall have a minimum tread depth of 8 in. (200 mm), and the top step shall protrude a minimum of 8 in. (200 mm) from the side of the vehicle.8.7 Vehicular Connections.

8.7.1 General.

Vehicular wiring connection circuits shall be in accordance with 8.7.2 through 8.7.4. Sufficient slack shall be provided in the wiring connection so that it remains unbroken to the limits of relative movement between the trailer and towing vehicle allowed by the safety chains. Wiring between the connector and the trailer body shall be protected from physical damage.8.7.2 Color Coding.

Wires shall be identified as follows:



(1) White: ground

(2) Blue: electric brakes

(3) Green: tail and running lamps

(4) Yellow: backup lights or auxiliary use

(5) Black: charging circuit or auxiliary or stop lamps

(6) Brown: right turn signal and stop lamp

(7) Red: left turn signal and stop lamp

8.7.3 Connections for Electric Brake Systems.

Recreational vehicles equipped with electric brakes shall employ a connector that has a safety catch to prevent an accidental disconnection and a means of disconnecting without placing the wiring under strain.8.7.4 Connections for Nonelectric Brake Systems.

Recreational vehicles without electric brakes shall be permitted to use a pin-type connector of the molded rubber type or equivalent.8.7.5 Truck Camper.

A truck camper shall be connected to vehicle wiring by wiring disconnects readily accessible for service.8.7.6 Trailer Running Gear. 8.7.6.1

Trailer running gear shall comply with CAN3-D313, Trailer Running Gear, and shall be marked in accordance with CAN3-D313 by the final assembler or thesupplier of the complete running gear.8.7.6.2

When loaded to the design GVWR and center of gravity, trailers shall impose a load on each running gear assembly not exceeding the gross axle weight rating of each assembly.8.7.6.3

Service brakes arranged symmetrically on each axle of the trailer shall be used on recreational vehicles if the unloaded vehicle mass is greater than 1500 lb (680 kg) or the GVWR as specified on the manufacturer’s nameplate is greater than 2006 lb. (910 kg). Brakes actuated by the inertia overrun of the trailer on the towing vehicle may be used on trailers up to 6008 lb (2725 kg) or the GVWR.8.7.6.4*

Recreational vehicles with GVWR exceeding 2976 lb (1350 kg) shall beequipped with service brakes that can be automatically actuated upon the trailer breaking away from the towing vehicle.8.7.6.5

When the device is electrically operated, it shall be activated by a power source at least equivalent to a 12 V battery with an ampere-hour rating numerically equal to the current draw of the brake magnets, provided that the brakes have a 12 V rating (e.g., one braked axle with 4 L magnets will draw 6 A and thus the battery should be at least 12 V, 6 A.h.).8.7.6.6

Trailers shall also have safety chains or cables attached to the A-frame in accordance with Section 8.3.8.7.6.7

Hydraulic trailer service brakes shall be designed to ensure there is no loss of hydraulic fluid if the trailer breaks away from the towing vehicle8.7.6.8



Where electrically operated brakes are used, they shall be activated by a power source equivalent to or greater than that provided by a 12 V automobile battery, and wiring shall comply with SAE J1128 or equal. (See Figure 8.7.6.8)Figure 8.7.6.8

8.8 Additional Requirements.

8.8.1

Except for 120V and porch lamps, lamps other than those specified in Section 8.5shall not be fitted if they will impair the effectiveness of the lamps specified in Section 8.5.8.8.2

When the truck camper width at the front or the rear is significantly less than the maximum overall width, clearance lamps shall be located at the maximum cross-section as near the top as practicable.8.8.3

Lamps and reflectors shall be removable and reinstallable using standard tools.8.8.4

The lamps specified in Section 8.5 shall be operated by the same controls that operate the carrying vehicle’s lights. The functioning of these lights shall be coordinated with their counterparts on the carrying vehicle. Identification lamps shall be energized with the clearance and marker lamps.8.8.5 Installation.

8.8.5.1

Every lamp and reflector shall be oriented on the camper as follows:

(1) In the case of rear and front devices, the photometric axis shall be parallel to the ground and the longitudinal axis of the camper.

(2) In the case of side markers, the photometric axis shall be parallel to the ground and perpendicular to the longitudinal axis of the camper.

8.8.5.2

Each device shall be installed in such a way that the required photometric performance is not reduced by the length of the wiring or by an adjacent structure.8.8.5.3

If the photometric axis of the installed lamp or reflective device does not comply with 8.8.5, the orientation of the lamp or reflective device shall be acceptable if the photometric characteristics of the installed device meet the requirements of 8.8.6.8.8.6



Lamps (including license plate lamps) and reflectors shall meet the candlepower and test requirements of Transport Canada’s TSD 108 or the requirements of 49 CFR 571.108, Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard, “Lamps, reflective devices, and associated equipment.”8.9 Tire and Wheel Assemblies.

Tire and wheel assemblies shall be installed on towable recreation vehicles (except for truck campers) in accordance with ANSI TSIC-1 Recommended Practice, Process Controls for Assembly of Wheels on Trailers.


The code reference formatting (numbering) does not match the current format of other chapters within NFPA 1192. For example, currently all three digit numbers have titles. In Chapter 8, sections 8.1 through 8.5 none of the three digit numbers have titles, while within section 8.7 all three digit numbers have titles. Also there appears to be no apparent reason why Section 8.3.5 is not completely underlined as new text in the FR 60 recommendation.










Public Comment No. 3-NFPA 1192-2012 [ Section No. D.1.2.2 ]

D.1.2.2 UL Publications.

Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096.

ANSI/UL 484, Standard for Room Air Conditioners, 2007, Revised 2009 2012 .












Attachment #3: Public Comment/1194

Public Comment No. 1-NFPA 1194-2012 [ New Section after 5.1.3 ]

5.1.3.1 Structures shall be identified by name or number readily visible from thecampground road (street).

5.1.3.1.1 Structures shall be identified on the sign located near the entrance to the campground indicating which direction to go and on the individual road sign leading to the structure.


Many of the members of the NCRFCDC respond to campgrounds for wildfires and other emergenices. During one recent incident valuable time was lost trying to locate a building on hte site for a medical emergency. Placing signs to find specific buildings also aids those using the campground an a daily basis.


Submitter Full Name: Doug Hohbein

Organization: Northcentral Fire Code Develop

Submittal Date: Mon Sep 17 18:20:49 EDT 2012


I, Doug Hohbein, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.

By checking this box I affirm that I am Doug Hohbein, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature



Attachment #4: Committee Roster

Address List No PhoneRecreational Vehicles REC-AAA

Chad Duffy03/05/2013

REC-AAA

John P. Harvey

ChairWashington State Department of Labor & IndustriesPO Box 44430Olympia, WA 98504-4430Alternate: Craig Sedlacek

E 1/1/1992REC-AAA

Bruce A. Hopkins

SecretaryRecreation Vehicle Industry Association1896 Preston White DrivePO Box 2999Reston, VA 20195-0999Alternate: Kent Perkins

M 1/1/1981

REC-AAA

Thomas R. Arnold

PrincipalT. R. Arnold & Associates, Inc.PO Box 1081Elkhart, IN 46515Alternate: Theodore P. Huff

RT 7/16/2003REC-AAA

Charles N. Ballard

PrincipalPacific West Associates, Inc.PO Box 40140Casper, WY 82604

SE 10/1/1999

REC-AAA

Christopher J. Bloom

PrincipalCJB Fire ConsultantsPO Box 2611White City, OR 97503Alternate: Joseph M. Bloom

SE 7/1/1993REC-AAA

Jeffrey A. Christner

PrincipalForest River, Inc.55470 CR 1, PO Box 3030Elkhart, IN 46515-3030Alternate: Brent Chapman

M 1/12/2000

REC-AAA

Garry D. Cole

PrincipalShelby/Mansfield KOA6787 Baker Road 47Shelby, OH 44875-9103National Association of RV Parks & CampgroundsAlternate: Wade Elliott

U 7/26/2007REC-AAA

Jeff D. Colwell

PrincipalExponent, Inc.23445 North 19th AvenuePhoenix, AZ 85027Alternate: Michael E. Cundy

SE 1/14/2005

REC-AAA

Dean Foster

PrincipalThetford Corporation7101 Jackson RoadPO Box 1285Ann Arbor, MI 48106

M 7/16/2003REC-AAA

Douglas Haas

PrincipalFleetwood RV, Inc.1031 US 224 EastDecatur, IN 46733

M 7/26/2007

REC-AAA

Khaled E. Habib

PrincipalCSA International1707 94th Street, NWEdmonton, AB T6N 1E6 Canada

RT 8/5/2009REC-AAA

Jerome A. Hoover

PrincipalNavistar RV LLC606 Nelson's ParkwayPO Box 465Wakarusa, IN 46573-0465

M 1/1/1996

REC-AAA

Dale Jordal

PrincipalWinnebago Industries, Inc.605 West Crystal Lake RoadPO Box 152Forest City, IA 50436

M 4/17/2002REC-AAA

John R. Kitchens

PrincipalLos Angeles City Fire DepartmentPO Box 178Somis, CA 93066

E 10/29/2012

1



REC-AAA

Richard H. Klein

PrincipalRichard Klein Consulting Engineers13010 West Castelbar DriveSun City West, AZ 85375

SE 10/27/2009REC-AAA

Bob Livingston

PrincipalGood Sam Media & Events2575 Vista Del MarVentura, CA 93001

IM 7/16/2003

REC-AAA

Mark Luttich

PrincipalNebraska Public Service CommissionHousing & Recreational Vehicle Department300 The Atrium, 1200 N StreetPO Box 94927Lincoln, NE 68509-4927

E 1/1/1986REC-AAA

David M. Mihalick

PrincipalThor Industries Inc.419 West Pike StreetJackson Center, OH 45334-9728Alternate: Joe Kleinknight

M 11/2/2006

REC-AAA

Arthur H. Mittelstaedt, Jr.

PrincipalInstitute for Safety and Preparedness Ltd.39 Shadyside AvenuePort Washington, NY 11050American Alliance for Health, Physical Education,Recreation, & Dance

SE 1/12/2000REC-AAA

Doug Mulvaney

PrincipalKampgrounds of America, Inc.Facilities Development ManagerPO Box 30558Billings, MT 59114

U 10/28/2008

REC-AAA

Kerry Parrott

PrincipalStahl Engineering & Failure Analysis, LLC3201 Stellhorn Road, Suite C149Fort Wayne, IN 46815-4697

SE 8/9/2011REC-AAA

Paul Sinclair

PrincipalBucars RV Centre262109 Range Road #10Balzac, AB T0M 0E0 CanadaRecreation Vehicle Dealers Association of Canada

M 10/29/2012

REC-AAA

Homer A. Staves

PrincipalStaves Consulting Inc.3191 ParkhillBillings, MT 59102Alternate: Neil Staves

SE 1/1/1988REC-AAA

Bruce J. Swiecicki

PrincipalNational Propane Gas Association21200 South LaGrange Road, Suite 353Frankfort, IL 60423National Propane Gas AssociationAlternate: Samuel E. McTier

IM 7/16/2003

REC-AAA

Monte L. Taylor

PrincipalState of OregonBuilding Codes DivisionPO Box 14470Salem, OR 97309

E 7/23/2008REC-AAA

Leslie Woodward

PrincipalFairview Fittings & Manufacturing Inc.3777 Commerce CourtWheatfield, NY 14120

IM 7/28/2006

REC-AAA

Joseph M. Bloom

AlternateBloom Fire InvestigationPO Box 207Grants Pass, OR 97528Principal: Christopher J. Bloom

SE 1/1/1991REC-AAA

Brent Chapman

AlternateForest River, Inc.PO Box 3030Elkhart, IN 46515Principal: Jeffrey A. Christner

M 8/2/2010

2



REC-AAA

Michael E. Cundy

AlternateExponent, Inc.23445 North 19th AvenuePhoenix, AZ 85027Principal: Jeff D. Colwell

SE 08/09/2012REC-AAA

Wade Elliott

AlternateUtility Services Group, Inc.26519 Bond Road NEKingston, WA 98346National Association of RV Parks & CampgroundsPrincipal: Garry D. Cole

U 8/5/2009

REC-AAA

Theodore P. Huff

AlternateT. R. Arnold & Associates, Inc.PO Box 1081Elkhart, IN 46515Principal: Thomas R. Arnold

RT 7/16/2003REC-AAA

Joe Kleinknight

AlternateKeystone RV Company2642 Hackberry DriveGoshen, IN 46526Principal: David M. Mihalick

M 8/5/2009

REC-AAA

Samuel E. McTier

AlternatePropane Technologies, LLC975 Kirkhill LaneLake Forest, IL 60045National Propane Gas AssociationPrincipal: Bruce J. Swiecicki

IM 1/17/1997REC-AAA

Kent Perkins

AlternateRecreation Vehicle Industry Association1896 Preston White DriveReston, VA 20191-0999Principal: Bruce A. Hopkins

M 1/1/1988

REC-AAA

Craig Sedlacek

AlternateWashington State Department of Labor & IndustriesPO Box 44430Olympia, WA 98504-4430Principal: John P. Harvey

E 10/29/2012REC-AAA

Neil Staves

AlternateStaves Consulting5125 Highway 93 SouthWhitefish, MT 59937Principal: Homer A. Staves

SE 10/27/2009

REC-AAA

Chad Duffy

Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

4/18/2011

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