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TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON

Motion Picture and Television Industry

AGENDA

First Draft Meeting for NFPA 140

February 24th, 2016

Marriott Los Angeles Airport

9 AM -5 PM Day One-9 AM

1. Welcome. Chris Schiehl, Stand-in Chair

2. Introductions and Update of Committee Roster. (Attached)

3. Approval of Report on Comments Meeting Minutes for NFPA 140 from April 10th, 2012.

(Attached)

4. Staff Updates.

a. Committee membership update.

b. Fall 2017 revision cycle schedule review

c. First Draft Process Presentation

5. Review of Public Inputs NFPA 140. (Attached)

6. Other/New Business

7. Formation of Task Groups (As needed)

8. Schedule Next Meeting

9. Adjournment

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Address List No PhoneMotion Picture and Television Industry MOI-AAA

Ron Coté02/01/2016

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Paul M. Jordan

ChairNBC Universal Studios100 Universal City Plaza, 5166-202Universal City, CA 91608Alternate: Chris M. Schiehl

U 11/2/2006MOI-AAA

Steven A. Abbott

PrincipalGeorgia State Financing & Investment Commission270 Washington Street, 2nd FloorAtlanta, GA 30334-9009

E 04/08/2015

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Hamid R. Bahadori

PrincipalJENSEN HUGHES725 Primera Boulevard, Suite 215Lake Mary, FL 32746Alternate: Matthew W. Donahue

SE 7/1/1993MOI-AAA

Mark Chrisman

PrincipalHenderson Engineers8345 Lenexa Drive, Suite 300Lenexa, KS 66214-1777

SE 08/11/2014

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Robert Fash

PrincipalLas Vegas Fire & Rescue500 North Casino Center Blvd.Las Vegas, NV 89101-2944Fire Code Committee

E 7/29/2005MOI-AAA

Johnson K. Lee

PrincipalAon Risk Services, Inc.Property Risk Control Division1901 Main Street, Suite 300Irvine, CA 92614

I 4/1/1994

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Patrick Moynihan

PrincipalAmerican Broadcasting Company47 West 66th StreetNew York, NY 10023-6201

U 7/1/1993MOI-AAA

Kenneth R. Quick, Jr.

PrincipalCity of Culver City Fire DepartmentFire Prevention Division9770 Culver BoulevardCulver City, CA 90232-2703

E 7/17/1998

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Chris R. Reimer

PrincipalFacilities Protection Systems, Inc.1150 West Central Ave., Suite DBrea, CA 92821

IM 1/16/1998MOI-AAA

Hugh A. Rose

PrincipalThe Walt Disney Company500 South Buena Vista StreetBurbank, CA 91521-5657

U 7/16/2003

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Richard B. Schiehl

PrincipalR. B. Schiehl & Associates40786 LaCosta Circle EastPalm Desert, CA 92211-0754

SE 7/1/1993MOI-AAA

Joel E. Sipe

PrincipalExponent, Inc.3503 Lakeshore Avenue, #5Oakland, CA 94610-2242

SE 08/17/2015

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James D. Streett

PrincipalInternational Alliance of Theatrical Stage EmployeesLocal 4410358 McBroom Street, Suite NSunland, CA 91040

L 07/29/2013MOI-AAA

William Gregg Vlahakis

PrincipalThe Viking Corporation11407 Casa StreetVentura, CA 93004

M 10/28/2014

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Address List No PhoneMotion Picture and Television Industry MOI-AAA

Ron Coté02/01/2016

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Matthew W. Donahue

AlternateJENSEN HUGHES1000 Wilshire BoulevardSuite 260Los Angeles, CA 90071JENSEN HUGHESPrincipal: Hamid R. Bahadori

SE 03/05/2012MOI-AAA

Chris M. Schiehl

AlternateNBC Universal Studios100 Universal City PlazaBlding 9128, Suite 139Universal City, CA 91608Principal: Paul M. Jordan

U 07/29/2013

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Ron Coté

Staff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

6/9/2003

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MOI-AAA 04-12 ROC Meeting / Page 1

MINUTES NFPA Technical Committee on Motion Picture and Television Industry

April 10, 2012 ROC Teleconference Meeting

1. Call to Order.

The teleconference meeting was called to order by Chair Paul Jordan at 1:00 p.m. on April 10, 2012.

2. Introduction of Committee Members and Guests.

The following Committee Members participated in the teleconference. NAME REPRESENTING Paul Jordan, Chair NBC Universal Studios Ron Coté, Staff Liaison National Fire Protection Association Hamid Bahadori, Principal Hughes Associates, Inc. Matthew Donahue Alternate to Charles Joyce

The RJA Group, Inc.

Robert Fash, Principal Las Vegas Fire and Rescue Rep. Fire Code Committee

Charles Joyce, Principal The RJA Group, Inc. Patrick Moynihan, Principal American Broadcasting Company Kenneth Quick, Principal City of Culver City Fire Department

Fire Prevention Division Chris Reimer, Principal Facilities Protections Systems, Inc. Hugh Rose, Principal The Walt Disney Company Richard Schiehl, Principal R. B. Schiehl & Associates

The following Guests participated in the teleconference.

NAME REPRESENTING Wendy Holt Contract Services Administration Trust

Fund Chris Schiel NBC Universal

The following Committee Member did not participate in the teleconference. NAME REPRESENTING Johnson Lee, Principal Aon Risk Services, Inc.

3. Approval of Prior Meeting Minutes.


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The minutes of the August 2, 2011 meeting were approved as written and distributed.

4. Review of Report on Proposals (ROP).

The ROP was noted as received for reference purposes only.

5. NFPA 140 ROC Preparation. Each public comment was addressed. See the ROC letter ballot.

6. Other Business.

Staff explained the timeline leading from ROC letter ballot to Standards Council issuance of the new edition of NFPA 140.

7. Future Meetings. NFPA 140 is revised on a 5-year cycle. If no NITMAM (Notice of Intent to Make a Motion) is received, the document will be issued as the 2013 edition. The 2018 edition will be processed in the Fall 2017 cycle. The committee will need to meet to prepare the First Draft (formerly ROP) by June 2016.

8. Adjournment.

The teleconference meeting was adjourned at 1:50 p.m.


Public Input No. 3-NFPA 140-2015 [ Section No. 1.3.3 ]

1.3.3

Existing soundstages, approved production facilities, and production locations that are in conformance withrequirements of the authority having jurisdiction at the time of the adoption of this standard shall bepermitted to remain in use under the following conditions:

(1) The occupancy classification and use remain the same.

(2) No serious hazards to life safety exist that would constitute an imminent threat unsafe condition inaccordance with NFPA 5000 .

Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Input

Unsafe conditions are stipulated in section 1.7.5.3 of NFPA 5000. Imminent threat is not defined and no guidance is identified in any NFPA document.

Submitter Information Verification

Submitter Full Name: Jim Muir

Organization: Building Safety Division, Clark County, WA

Affilliation: NFPAs Building Code Development Committee (BCDC)

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Submittal Date: Mon Nov 09 20:49:28 EST 2015

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2.3.1 UL Publications.

Underwriters Laboratories Inc., 333 Pfingsten Road, Northbrook, IL 60062-2096.

UL 1573, Standard for Stage and Studio Luminaires and Connector Strips, 2003, Revised 2010 2014 .

UL 1640, Standard for Portable Power-Distribution Equipment, 2000, Revised 2010 2012 .

UL 1975, Standard for Fire Tests for Foamed Plastics Used for Decorative Purposes, 2006.


UL 1573 and UL 1640 have been updated/revised.


Submitter Full Name: Ronald Farr

Organization: Ul Llc

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Submittal Date: Tue Jan 05 10:53:38 EST 2016


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Public Input No. 4-NFPA 140-2015 [ Section No. 4.4 ]

4.4 Standby Fire Personnel Watch .

4.4.1

Where required by the AHJ, standby fire personnel a fire watch in accordance with NFPA 1 shall beprovided for soundstages and approved production facilities where pyrotechnic special effects are used.

4.4.2 Other Hazards.

Where required by the AHJ, standby fire personnel a fire watch in accordance with NFPA 1 shall beprovided for hazardous operations other than pyrotechnic special effects.


As written, the text requires that “fire personnel” is required. It cannot be the intent that Fire Department personnel be used. NFPA 140 references a fire watch in A.4.5.2 (5) (1). A fire watch is defined in section 3.3.125 of NFPA 1. This proposal would require a fire watch which is clearly outlined in NFPA 1. Consideration could be given to extracting the definition in this document and deleting the proposed “in accordance with NFPA 1” phrase. A similar Public Input has been submitted to section 5.4.

Related Public Inputs for This Document

Related Input Relationship

Public Input No. 5-NFPA 140-2015 [Section No. 5.4]





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Public Input No. 1-NFPA 140-2015 [ New Section after 4.5.3 ]

TITLE OF NEW CONTENT: WOOD FLATS

Combustible wood flats shall compy with NFPA 703 on all exposed sides.


There is confusion in this industry if wood needs to comply with NFPA 703 on all sides of material. Many scenic and production companies only back-paint one side of what is typically referred to as, "flats". Protecting only one side of the wood while the other side is exposed and not installed up against a non-combustible surface increases flammability exposure. This needs to be clarified.


Submitter Full Name: KATHLEEN NEWMAN

Organization: FIRETECT INC.

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Submittal Date: Thu Jun 11 20:30:22 EDT 2015


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4.5.3

Cut greens shall be tested on identical substrates manufactured with identical raw materials and treatedwith an approved or listed fire retardant, and the process shall be repeated as often as necessary tomaintain its effectiveness.


Many cut greens have the same name, but are made by different manufacturers who use different raw materials that may have different flame-spread ratings than the original tested creating a false sense of flame-spread results.


Submitter Full Name: KATHLEEN NEWMAN

Organization: FIRETECT, INC.

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Submittal Date: Fri Nov 13 15:11:44 EST 2015


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Public Input No. 5-NFPA 140-2015 [ Section No. 5.4 ]

5.4 Standby Fire Personnel Watch .

5.4.1 Pyrotechnics.

Standby fire personnel A fire watch in accordance with NFPA 1 shall be required for production locationswhere pyrotechnic special effects are used, unless otherwise waived by the AHJ.

5.4.2 Other Hazards.

Where required by the AHJ, standby fire personnel a fire watch in accordance with NFPA 1 shall beprovided for hazardous operations other than pyrotechnic special effects.


As written, the text requires that “fire personnel” is required. It cannot be the intent that Fire Department personnel be used. NFPA 140 references a fire watch in A.4.5.2 (5) (1). A fire watch is defined in section 3.3.125 of NFPA 1. This proposal would require a fire watch which is clearly outlined in NFPA 1. Consideration could be given to extracting the definition in this document and deleting the proposed “in accordance with NFPA 1” phrase. A similar Public Input has been submitted to section 4.4.

Related Public Inputs for This Document

Related Input Relationship

Public Input No. 4-NFPA 140-2015 [Section No. 4.4] similar





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5.8.1

Electrical power connections made to the site electrical service shall be made by an approved licensedelectrician under permit from the AHJ.

Additional Proposed Changes

File Name Description Approved

Tabar_NFPA_140_Public_Input.pdf Copy of public input


Is the presumption in the original paragraph that references “Electrical power connections” that this only involves hard-wire “connections” to primary or secondary electrical panels (“site electrical service”), or, is the sentence intended to be inclusive to standard, plug-in type 120v/220v cable connections? If intended for fixed connections to primary and secondary panels, should not the “approved” electricians also be required to be licensed electricians (though most AHJ’s would require this)?


Submitter Full Name: DAVID TABAR

Organization: NORTHERN RISK LLC

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Northern Risk LLC 2807 Waterfall Way Westlake, OH 44145

Re: NFPA 140 Public Input – 2018 Code Cycle To: Mr. Ron Cote, Staff Liaison, NFPA 140 Standard on Motion Picture and Television Production, Studio Soundstages, Approved Production Facilities, and Production Locations Dear Mr. Cote, Please present the following suggestions for changes to the current 2013 Edition of NFPA 140, Chapters 5 and 6, to be considered for the next edition (2018) of the Stabdard. At present I plan to be at the Technical Committee’s next meeting in L.A. as a Guest. Proposed changes (new text) are underlined while proposed deletions are illustrated by strikethrough). NFPA has my permission to use or publish any or all comments. David C. Tabar, CSP 615-525-5988

5.8.1 Electrical power connections made to the site electrical service shall be made by an approved, licensed electrician under permit from the AHJ. Substantiation: Is the presumption in the original paragraph that references “Electrical power connections” that this only involves hard-wire “connections” to primary or secondary electrical panels (“site electrical service”), or, is the sentence intended to be inclusive to standard, plug-in type 120v/220v cable connections? If intended for fixed connections to primary and secondary panels, should not the “approved” electricians also be required to be licensed electricians (though most AHJ’s would require this)?

5.8.4 Where power from both mobile generators and site electrical services are used to energize equipment in the same proximate location at production locations, grounds for the two systems shall be bonded in accordance with NFPA 70, National Electrical Code to assure that grounding is at the same electrical potential. Substantiation: The clarification provides useful information to the user of the Standard as to the “why.”


5.11.4* The requirements of NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems, prohibiting obstructions to sprinkler discharge shall not be applicable if approved mitigation is employed during temporary or contracted production periods. Substantiation: Per Annex A clarifications, such “approved mitigation” is intended to be operationalized only for temporary production situations where use of the designed automatic sprinkler system could become obstructed.

5.11.5* The requirement of NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems, prohibiting obstructions to sprinkler discharge where approved mitigation is employed during temporary or contracted production periods shall not be applicable if the building sprinkler system meets the design criteria for Extra Hazard, Group 2. Substantiation: Per Annex A clarifications, such “approved mitigation” is intended to be operationalized only for temporary production situations where use of the designed automatic sprinkler system could become obstructed.

6.2.2 Approved flammable or combustible liquids, combustible solids or dusts, and liquefied petroleum gases used for special effects shall be permitted. Substantiation: Certain special effects can rely upon combustible solids or dusts. Such a change also warrants a change to the current title of the current section “6.2 Flammable or Combustible Liquids.”



5.8.4

Where power from both mobile generators and site electrical services are used to energize equipment inthe same proximate location at production locations, grounds for the two systems shall be bonded inaccordance with NFPA 70, National Electrical Code to assure that grounding is at the same electricalpotential .



Tabar_NFPA_140_Public_Input.pdf Copy of Public Input


The clarification provides useful information to the user of the Standard as to the “why.”




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5.11.4*

The requirements of NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems, prohibiting obstructions tosprinkler discharge shall not be applicable if approved mitigation is employed during temporary orcontracted production periods .





Per Annex A clarifications, such “approved mitigation” is intended to be operationalized only for temporary production situations where use of the designed automatic sprinkler system could become obstructed.




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5.11.5*

The requirements of NFPA 13, Standard for the Installation of Sprinkler Systems, prohibiting obstructions tosprinkler discharge where approved mitigation is employed during temporary or contracted productionperiods shall not be applicable if the building sprinkler system meets the design criteria for Extra Hazard,Group 2.





Per Annex A clarifications, such “approved mitigation” is intended to be operationalized only for temporary production situations where use of the designed automatic sprinkler system could become obstructed.




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6.2.2

Approved flammable or combustible liquids, combustible solids or dusts, and liquefied petroleum gasesused for special effects shall be permitted.





Certain special effects can rely upon combustible solids or dusts. Such a change also warrants a change to the current title of the current section “6.2 Flammable or Combustible Liquids.”




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Public Input No. 6-NFPA 140-2015 [ Section No. A.4.11.1.3.1 ]

A.4.11.1.3.1

Paragraphs 4.11.1.3.1 and 4.11.1.3.2 recognize motion picture and television industry practices thatrequire sets to change constantly and that sets are “temporary” construction not subject to building codes orstandards. Solid ceilings that obstruct the stage sprinklers are “flown” (moved) in or out to permit specialshooting angles or lighting requirements, often on a scene-by-scene basis. With temporary walls andceilings, it would be impractical to install a sprinkler system in a constantly changing structure. Therefore,one or more of the following mitigation techniques should be used to compensate for the areas shieldedfrom sprinkler spray by solid or hard ceilings or platforms:

(1) Approved and listed heat detectors or smoke detectors can be installed beneath such solid or hard

ceilings in excess of 600 ft2 (55.7 m2) in area and platforms in excess of 600 ft2 (55.7 m2) in area and3 ft (0.9 m) in height. Detectors should be connected to an approved and listed central, proprietary, orremote station service or to a local alarm that will provide an audible signal (i.e., a bell or horn) at aconstantly attended location. The detector system, including the alarm panel, is defined as a portablesystem because it is intended to be reinstalled when platforms or sets are changed. The detectors thatare secured to standard outlet boxes and the listed fire alarm panels can be temporarily supported bysets, platforms, or pedestals. Spacing of detectors should be per manufacturers' requirements.

(2) The ceiling can be positioned to allow for the operation of the building's automatic fire sprinklersystem after videotaping, filming, or broadcasting of programs has been completed for the day.

(3) A fire watch should be provided when the set is not in use when determined necessary by the AHJ .

(4) No combustible materials should be stored under any platforms. Consideration should be given tosecure such covered areas with screen wire or other materials that will permit visual inspection andemergency access.

(5) Approved/listed fire retardants can be applied beneath combustible platforms.

(6) Approved/listed fire retardants can be applied to scenery, props, framework and deck of combustibleplatforms, and the hard ceilings of combustible sets.


There are many soundstages that do not pose a large enough hazard to require a fire watch when the set is not being used. A fire watch would be required when there are large quantities of flammable materials being used or stored within the soundstage. If the soundstage has low amounts of combustible material, then a fire watch should not be required. Many of the major movie and television studios have examples where this should not be required. This gives the AHJ the authority to require a fire watch when warranted.





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