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Finding of Facts Resulting in Chapter 11 Bankruptcy Page 47 Feb 18, 2005 Plaintiff sends the following letter to the Chief of Police of the Southern Regional Police Department: February 18, 2005 Stan Caterbone 220 Stone Hill Road Conestoga, PA 17516 Chief John A. Fiorill Southern Regional Police Department 3284 Main Street P.O. Box 254 Conestoga, PA 17516 Dear Chief Fiorill: I am very disappointed in the way that our meeting had ended. I will be filing complaints With the appropriate authorities concerning the threats and abuse by Officer Busser. Remember you had requested that meeting. And as you stated, “I do not believe anything that you say”, well Sir, that is certainly your choice, however I have never provided anything but the truth to you or any member of your department. The burden of proof to my allegations falls within your jurisdiction. If you are telling me that I have to prove every allegation when I report a crime, I just don’t know how that is possible. But you are the Chief of the department, so I guess I will have to protect my person and property in any manner that deems appropriate. I apologize for becoming loud and frustrated, however when you tell me that I am lying and I am most certainly telling the truth; and then you and Mr. Busser yell that I am nuts and to “get out of here”; and that no one will respond to any of my calls to your office, well we have a very serious problem. You both have challenged my integrity, my truthfulness, credibility, and my sanity. And Mr Busser pulling out his night stick and holding it up to hit me, that is more than enough for me. I get the picture loud and clear. I hope that you do as well. Respectfully, Stan J. Caterbone Cc: Donald Totaro, Lancaster County District Attorney Feb 19, 2005 Plaintiff files the following complaint with the The Internet Fraud Complaint Center (IFCC) after the incident of Kerry Egan calling 911 to file a false report of plaintiff sending an email stating to kill himself. Saturday, February 19, 2005 Stan Caterbone 220 Stone Hill Road Conestoga, 17516 The Internet Fraud Complaint Center (IFCC) is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C). February 19, 2005 7:26 am At approximately 5:00 am this morning the Conestoga Police entered my home and accused me of sending an email to Kerry Egan threatening to kill myself. The officer verbally and physically abused me because I did not know what he was talking about and he kept interrogating me and handcuffed me because I said that I was not on the internet after 10:00 pm on February 18, the evening before. The officer told me that I sent an email to Kerry Egan and she called 911 at approximately 5:00 am this morning. I told the officer that I did I fell asleep at

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    Feb 18, 2005 Plaintiff sends the following letter to the Chief of Police of the Southern Regional Police Department: February 18, 2005

    Stan Caterbone 220 Stone Hill Road Conestoga, PA 17516 Chief John A. Fiorill Southern Regional Police Department 3284 Main Street P.O. Box 254 Conestoga, PA 17516 Dear Chief Fiorill: I am very disappointed in the way that our meeting had ended. I will be filing complaints With the appropriate authorities concerning the threats and abuse by Officer Busser. Remember you had requested that meeting. And as you stated, I do not believe anything that you say, well Sir, that is certainly your choice, however I have never provided anything but the truth to you or any member of your department. The burden of proof to my allegations falls within your jurisdiction. If you are telling me that I have to prove every allegation when I report a crime, I just dont know how that is possible. But you are the Chief of the department, so I guess I will have to protect my person and property in any manner that deems appropriate. I apologize for becoming loud and frustrated, however when you tell me that I am lying and I am most certainly telling the truth; and then you and Mr. Busser yell that I am nuts and to get out of here; and that no one will respond to any of my calls to your office, well we have a very serious problem. You both have challenged my integrity, my truthfulness, credibility, and my sanity. And Mr Busser pulling out his night stick and holding it up to hit me, that is more than enough for me. I get the picture loud and clear. I hope that you do as well. Respectfully, Stan J. Caterbone Cc: Donald Totaro, Lancaster County District Attorney

    Feb 19, 2005 Plaintiff files the following complaint with the The Internet Fraud Complaint Center (IFCC) after the incident of Kerry

    Egan calling 911 to file a false report of plaintiff sending an email stating to kill himself. Saturday, February 19, 2005

    Stan Caterbone 220 Stone Hill Road Conestoga, 17516 The Internet Fraud Complaint Center (IFCC) is a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) and the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C). February 19, 2005 7:26 am At approximately 5:00 am this morning the Conestoga Police entered my home and accused me of sending an email to Kerry Egan threatening to kill myself. The officer verbally and physically abused me because I did not know what he was talking about and he kept interrogating me and handcuffed me because I said that I was not on the internet after 10:00 pm on February 18, the evening before. The officer told me that I sent an email to Kerry Egan and she called 911 at approximately 5:00 am this morning. I told the officer that I did I fell asleep at

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    approximately 1:00 am and did not awake until the officer arrived at my house. The officer was quite abusive and tried to accuse me of lunging at him, when in fact he was throwing me around. Pam Pflumm, who previously filed trespass charges against me, and whom I was to have no contact with, illegally entered my home with the officer, via a key which I had kept on the deck. Before they entered my home, I called 911 and requested that the Pennsylvania State Police come to my aid because of the verbal and physical threats that I received earlier in the day from Officer Busser and Chief of Police Fiorill of the Southern Regional Police Department. After they had left, I took a shower and almost collapsed from exhaustion and trauma. I got dressed and went to the emergency room of Regional Hospital, former Saint Joseph Hospital. Dr. Laird attended to my concerns.

    Feb 20, 2005 Plaintiff calls Southern Regional Police Department and Humane League to file formal complaint of Cruelty to Animals.

    Both refused to investigate or file any reports. Complaint phoned in to the Humane League on Feb 20, 2005 As described to a Letter To The Editor, Gil Smart

    While I was away for a family emergency, I had someone let my two cats out after being inside for a few days, which I

    have always done in the past. I returned after being in South Florida for one week. Upon driving toward my driveway, my one cat was anxiously awaiting my arriveal. However, my second cat was not there. This was immediate cause for concern, since being mother and son, they had always stuck together. After a few days I knew that my cat was either abducted or was harmed. No way would he be around and not come home.

    The other evening I went over to my suspect neighbors home, whom I know often has been mischevious toward my

    property in the past, and asked him if he saw my cat. He went on to tell me how big my cat is and how he is the "king of the neighborhood". I found this conversation to be typical bull.... He said "don't worry it will show up soon!"

    Last evening I found my dead cat lying by my pond with a possom chewing on its ear. I examined the body and found

    that it's neck had been broken with no other signs of any other wounds. I called the Humane Shelter and talked to a Cruelty Officer who said" There is nothhing we can do if you did not see

    anyone physically harm the animal" Is this the way it is? You have to prove a crime before they will investigate? Sounds alittle backwards to me, but then

    again I often forget where I am at. Feb 21, 2005 Plaintiff sends letter to Fulton Bank regarding the death of Thomas Caterbone and the alleged indiscretions and

    illegalities of the activities of Fulton Bank. Monday, February 21, 2005

    Project Hope Mr. Stan Caterbone 220 Stone Hill Road Conestoga, PA 17516 Mr. Scott Smith Fulton Financial Corporation One Penn Square P.O. Box 4887 Lancaster, PA 17604 Dear Mr. Smith: The reason I had called you on Friday morning was to discuss an outstanding issue with you. I am not threatening you or coming to you as an adversary, but rather just trying to understand how your institution can be so cold and rude to my family. On Thursday I visited the Manor Branch to discuss the account for Tom's Project Hope, our non-profit foundation which advocates awareness for suicide prevention, with a focus for teenagers. Of course this foundation was founded after the suicide of my youngest brother, Tom, in 1996.

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    Women sue Millersville cops in 'streaker' flapBy Janet KelleyLancaster New Era

    Published: Feb 23, 2006 1:19 PM EST

    LANCASTER COUNTY, PA - Three women have filed a federallawsuit against Millersville Borough Police, accusing two of itspolicemen of an incident which they claim left themterrified...scared and humiliated.

    In short, they claim, their civil rights were violated.

    Dana Skubon, Susan Bimler and Kendra Klahr, who share a home in Millersville, accused police Sgt. Mark Peifer and Officer Brian Tatara of illegally entering their

    home and their bedroom around 3 a.m. on Sept. 3, 2005.

    Saying he was looking for a streaker, Peifer asked thewomen to turn around and show him their buttocks, so he could compare it with a suspecthe had seen earlier in the evening, according to the lawsuit filed last month.

    Police Chief John D. Rochat, who was also named as a defendant in the lawsuit foremploying the officers, referred all questions to the boroughs solicitor, James Young.

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    According to the lawsuit, Skubon and her roommates had fallen asleep around 11:30 p.m. on Sept. 2, 2005 in a second floor bedroom.

    At some point, around 3 a.m., Skubon said she was awakened by a sound and looked down the stairs to see two uniformed policemen standing inside the doorway.

    The men identified themselves as police and ordered Skubon to come down, according to documents.

    But Skubon said she was frightened, according to the lawsuit, and went back to the bedroom, shut the door and crawled back in bed.

    Within minutes, the officers came upstairs, opened the bedroom door and shone theirflashlights in the womens faces, ordering them into the living room.

    Confused and scared, the women complied, according to the lawsuit.

    Peifer then told them to get identification, which they did.

    Bimler and Klahr are students at Millersville University, according to documents, while Skubon works as a surgery tech clerk at a local hospital.

    When Skubon produced hospital identification instead of a drivers license, she said Peiferfollowed her back into her bedroom, accusing her of streaking in the neighborhood.

    The policeman pressured her, Skubon claims, saying, Tell me it was you, dont lie tome. I know it was you, according to the lawsuit.

    Skubon responded by saying she didnt know what he was talking about, according todocuments, to which Peifer told her, If you like, I will read you your Miranda rights.

    Extremely frightened, Skubon began to cry. Peifer told her to return to the living roomwith the other women, checking their drivers license numbers over the police radio.

    Then, according to the lawsuit, Peifer asked the women to stand up and turn around so hecould observe their buttocks.

    Peifer said he saw a girl outside in a G-string and he thought he would know her frombehind...Peifer then proceeded to observe all three (womens) buttocks and commentedhow Skubons shape was different from the others.

    Peifer then stated that he was going to check the community pool and if there was anydamage to the pool he would come back and slap handcuffs on Skubon and arrest her.

    The policemen then left the womens home. The episode lasted about 45 minutes,according to the lawsuit.

    Court documents offer no explanation as to why the policemen would have allegedly goneto the womens home or why they entered the residence.

    The lawsuit claims the policemen violated the womens civil rights by illegally enteringtheir home and their bedroom without a search warrant.

    The women seek compensatory and punitive damages, as well as attorneys fees and courtcosts, for the officers outrageous conduct, which they say left them distressed, scaredand humiliated. They added that they were terrified and felt completely violated.

    Peifer, a 26-year veteran of the police department, was named Officer of the Year in1995. Tatara was recognized in 2004 as one of the countys Top Gun police officers for ahigh number of drunken driving arrests.

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    Recent TalkBack comments about this article Comment on this article

    ann02-23-2006

    LOL, I wonder if these cops arent a little embarrassed.

    eurytopic02-23-2006

    Somewhere, Clancy Wiggum is smiling.

    P. Floyd02-23-2006

    QUOTE(eurytopic @ Feb 23 2006, 02:38 PM) [snapback]169328[/snapback]

    Somewhere, Clancy Wiggum is smiling.

    your post was funny before i read the article eury, after, it was hilarious. these guys have the police work that rivals the keystonekops.

    NonaYabiznis02-23-2006

    That's just a bizarre story. What could they have been thinking?

    forthepeople02-23-2006

    If the buttocks fits...........you must acquit!!

    RonHarper02-23-2006

    Amazing what the cops will do to prove something! It's not like itwas the crime of the century!

    rh

    littledutchboy02-23-2006

    A "rear end" line up.....

    Hay Ron ..... we could be brothers.....?

    runutz02-23-2006

    If you get a butt print, will it hold up in court?

    ann02-23-2006

    I am curious, erum..was the observation made with buttscovered or uncovered?

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    P. Floyd02-23-2006

    its like ms balbricker in porky's. "it had a mole on it, i'd identify itanywhere"

    Lorax02-23-2006

    It amazes me that gestapo tactics are so funny. The officersinvolved in this incident should be fired. This is America isn't it?

    jackooboy02-23-2006

    The key to this case will be why the police entered the house... also, why did the girl who was "scared" go back to bed?! Ifshe didn't think they truly were the police wouldn't you have called 911 if two strange men were in your house. If you didn't have aphone on the second floor, you certainly would try to escape and not go back to bed.

    Perhaps it was this woman who was streaking, not like it's that big of a deal, but her actions do not make sense. Also, for thehumiliation, if the officers made the women strip, yes that's across the line, but having them line up with their clothes on to see if they could tell who's butt was the purputrator is not over the line, a little odd, but not over the line.

    cyberscribbler02-23-2006

    Years ago during finals week, the students would relieve tension with Naked relays down George St. to Biemesderfer Stadium. The cops must've been pining for the good old days, missed them thar' streakers.

    PedroHead02-23-2006

    Damm, why didn't I ever think of this when in college. Dress up likea cop and enter women's apartments and do a butt check. Think ofall the *ss I would have seen!

    JohnQPublic02-23-2006

    Hmmm, they've got MySpace accounts:

    Kendra's MySpace

    Dana's MySpace

    Misser02-23-2006

    Millersville Police chief to Officers Seymour and Butz: "Sorry boys, but the Boro Solicitor says this settlement's coming out of your paychecks!"

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    JohnQPublic02-23-2006

    Looks like Dana's not 21 according to her profile..... shame shame, at least drink a real beer if you're going to break the law.

    MYSTRE2ME02-23-2006

    SHE WAS SO SCARED SHE WENT BACK TO BED...PLLLEASSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEE...WHAT WERE THEY SMOKING OR DRINKING.....OH POOR, POOR COLLEGE COEDS....MOM AND DAD'S MONEY DOWN THE DRAIN....

    DimBulb02-23-2006

    QUOTE(MYSTRE2ME @ Feb 23 2006, 04:52 PM) [snapback]169403[/snapback]

    SHE WAS SO SCARED SHE WENT BACK TO BED..

    If you were her, what do you think you would have done ? Soundslike they were truly frightened by the po-po.

    Mrs. JARiggs02-23-2006

    I think that is a little strange!!!!

    betheball02-23-2006

    This is what I'm thinking; 1) College kids tend to do stupid things, 2) College cops tend to catch college kids doing stupid things, 3) Flirtacious College girls stand a better chance of leniency from College cops, 4) College girls who have who have been let off multiple times by the same College cop tend to think they can do anything and rely on their "buddy" to get them out of trouble,5) College (any) cops tend to have big egos and don't like feeling disrespected,6) Disrespected College cops sometimes feel the need to reassert their authority7) A familiar College cop face that's already let you get away with murder over and over again, even at 2:00 am, tends to elicit a"whatever" response from College girls,8) See item #5,9) College cops who think they have the "goods" on College girls tend to think they can get away with anything because the College girl doesn't want to get in trouble,10) College cops didn't anticipate College girls outrage at a forced burlesque show would hit the papers,11) Massive smear campaign against College girls will make headlines in the next few days

    Just a theory

    BuffaloBill02-23-2006

    Millersville Borough Police aren't exactly 'campus cops'.

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    jackooboy02-23-2006

    My thoughts exactly Buffalo, but nice croutique.

    why?02-23-2006

    did anyone notice the poster behind the girls on the left in the second picture? methinks they may have done some stupid things after getting the ingredients from that! still-don't go hide in your bed if you're afraid of the cops. if you're afraid, call the station and verify that the cops are real. if you're afraid because you may have done something stupid and don't want to get in trouble for it, tough noogies. your problem. i don't know about the officers in this case, though. what really happened? guess we'll find out sooner or later.

    BuffaloBill02-23-2006

    I thought I saw Ron Harper in the background of that one pic. Ron is that you at a kegger?

    P. Floyd02-23-2006

    I think dana's myspace account was deleted.hmmm....underage.....pictures with elicit beverages...big news story.

    betheball02-23-2006

    QUOTE(BuffaloBill @ Feb 23 2006, 09:07 PM) [snapback]169477[/snapback]

    Millersville Borough Police aren't exactly 'campus cops'.

    My apologies, please re-read my post ignoring the word "College"

    The_Crow02-23-2006

    QUOTE(why? @ Feb 23 2006, 09:19 PM) [snapback]169481[/snapback]

    did anyone notice the poster behind the girls on the left in the second picture?

    Yeah, I used to own that one.

    RonHarper02-23-2006

    QUOTE(BuffaloBill @ Feb 23 2006, 10:21 PM) [snapback]169482[/snapback]

    I thought I saw Ron Harper in the background of that one pic. Ron is that you at a kegger?

    When I went to MU for a semester and 1/2 in 1983, I didn't go to them!

    rh

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    BuffaloBill02-23-2006

    Must have been the hair!

    betheball02-23-2006

    Sweet Jesus, that looks like the chick I woke up next to Sunday morning, henceforce I shall forever abstain.

    crazy nana 602-23-2006

    I think that this seems a little fishy...

    holmer02-24-2006

    Congrat's to all of you. None of you have the presumption of innocence. None. Which makes you all look mighty silly and in fact stupid. Too over the top. Frankly, this is just plain too ridulous to believe. An employer guilty for employees? cs

    RonHarper02-24-2006

    QUOTE(holmer @ Feb 24 2006, 04:11 AM) [snapback]169538[/snapback]

    Congrat's to all of you. None of you have the presumption of innocence. None. Which makes you all look mighty silly and in fact stupid. Too over the top. Frankly, this is just plain too ridulous to believe. An employer guilty for employees? cs

    Actually IMHO it sounds too ridiculous not to be believable. I mean,why are you going into someone's house without permission? Unlesssomeone's life is in danger or you are chasing a murder, the 4th amendment protects you from such "activities" by the police.Believe it or not, you are not required to open a door to a cop or let him in - save some life threatening issue - which this was not.

    I will tell you right now - a cop better have a real good reason for pounding on my door at 3 AM. Somebody better be dead or nearlydead or need some serious help.

    As you said though, there is probably more to this story and by the looks of this thread, it will be interesting. Their attorney is a goodguy BTW.

    BTW, I remember getting stopped by a Millersville Cop 20+ years ago for speeding at 12 pm. He asked if I knew what the speed limitwas - 25 mph - and how fast I was going? "I don't know 45 or 50".He showed compassion! I was never living there but had nothingbut good experiences with the cops there.

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    BeingReal02-24-2006

    QUOTE(RonHarper @ Feb 24 2006, 05:27 AM) [snapback]169544[/snapback]

    I will tell you right now - a cop better have a real good reason for pounding on my door at 3 AM. Somebody better be dead or nearly dead or need some serious help.

    And for making me show him my buttocks!

    twatson302-24-2006

    QUOTE(BeingReal @ Feb 24 2006, 09:46 AM) [snapback]169583[/snapback]

    And for making me show him my buttocks!

    I don't know about BeingReal but I am pretty sure that the cops don't want to see Ron's buttocks.

    Dogglebee02-24-2006

    I'm just shocked the Millersville cops took time out of their busy schedules of ticketing MU students' cars for this.

    RonHarper02-24-2006

    QUOTE(twatson3 @ Feb 24 2006, 11:17 AM) [snapback]169590[/snapback]

    I don't know about BeingReal but I am pretty sure that the cops don't want to see Ron's buttocks.

    You know Tom, that we can agree on!

    Can you imagine the poor girl who had commentary on her butt?It's pretty funny but not if it were my daughter

    rh

    TwpGuy02-24-2006

    Does anyone know what the cops were thinking? Had they thought a more serious crime had taken place?

    What kind of person flashes someone anyhow....?

    crushonyou02-24-2006

    Jackooboy I have to say I really disagree with you on what you think is over the line. Police officers, campus or borough are supposed to be a sign of security not harassment. I think it is very inappropriate for a male figure of authority to have three young females stand to "examine" their buttocks whether there was a streaker or not. I am sure these females were very affected by this event. I know that if this would have happened to me when I was in college I would not appreciated an older man looking at my

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    buttocks and commenting on it. And furthermore if something would have happened to these females after this incident, would they have felt comfortable calling the police for help in any situation after being violated by them? Good to know that my tax dollars are paying for old police officers to violate young females trying to get an education!

    Buddy02-24-2006

    I have a question:

    It sounds like the police just walked into their home. Are they allowed to do that?

    BeingReal02-24-2006

    QUOTE(crushonyou @ Feb 24 2006, 11:00 AM) [snapback]169600[/snapback]

    Jackooboy I have to say I really disagree with you on what you think is over the line. Police officers, campus or borough are supposed to be a sign of security not harassment. I think it is very inappropriate for a male figure of authority to have three young females stand to "examine" their buttocks whether there was a streaker or not. I am sure these females were very affected by this event. I know that if this would have happened to me when I was in college I would not appreciated an older man looking at my buttocks and commenting on it. And furthermore if something would have happened to these females after this incident, would they have felt comfortable calling the police for help in any situation after being violated by them? Good to know that my tax dollars are paying for old police officers to violate young females trying to get an education!

    I have to agree with the gist of your points. I always thought thatfemale examinations were to be handled by female cops. Somethingabout this just doesn't sound right, but I also think we don't have enough information from this article to really make a full determination. For example, there doesn't seem to be muchinformation provided about the alleged streaking incident that supposedly sparked this situation. Didn't the police officer see theperson's hair color? Was there vandalism involved in the streakingincident? What made them pick this particular house? Were otherschecked as well? Too many unasked questions relate to this article,which is resulting in a certain amount of speculation.

    And, Ron, you can relax because I would pass...I see enough butts every day during diaper changes!

    DimBulb02-24-2006

    QUOTE(TwpGuy @ Feb 24 2006, 10:39 AM) [snapback]169596[/snapback]

    What kind of person flashes someone anyhow....?

    That stalkerperson that you just put on ignore ?

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    crushonyou02-24-2006

    Very good point beingreal it is a lot easier to establish a "streaker" by other characteristics such as hair color, height, weight etc. Not just by examining buttocks and commenting on them. It seems very odd to me that the only way these cops could tell if it was these girls streaking was by their buttocks. These comments about "my space" and drinking, lets be real who didn't drink when they were in college? I know I did.

    TwpGuy02-24-2006

    QUOTE(DimBulb @ Feb 24 2006, 11:27 AM) [snapback]169605[/snapback]

    That stalkerperson that you just put on ignore ?

    I actually put him on ignore. The whole stalking thing was a little creepy.

    DavidAKI02-24-2006

    Peifer said he saw a girl outside in a G-string and he thought hewould know her from behind...

    There are some holes in this account.

    1. Did he radio into dispatch on his eyewitness account?2. Did he pursue the eyewitnessed streaker like they do in the show cops.3. Did he report anything to his command in order to establish a court orderbefore entering the apartment? We are talking about college kids,not Bonnie, and Clyde here.4. Did the police voice log recorder record the actual event as it was happenning to cooberate the officers eyewitness account of the incident that should have been proceeded with an actual pursuit, and possible arrest.5. what was the time of the actual occurence claimed vs the time of visitation to the young ladies apartment?Many questions not answered. Quite confusing.

    Buddy02-24-2006

    Great Questions, DavidAKI

    NonaYabiznis02-24-2006

    Perhaps it's a thin technicality, but are you actually streaking if you are wearing a g-string?

    RonHarper02-24-2006

    QUOTE(NonaYabiznis @ Feb 24 2006, 01:05 PM) [snapback]169619[/snapback]

    Perhaps it's a thin technicality, but are you actually streaking if you are wearing a g-string?

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    I think you might have cracked open the plaintiff's case with that one

    BeingReal02-24-2006

    I can tell that these people are going to be the butt of some serious jokes!

    rottiemom02-24-2006

    If I wasn't an MU grad and former Millersville resident (while attending MU), I'd think this story was absurd. But sadly, I can easily see the cops behaving like this.

    And the girls? tsk. tsk. Back in my day (egads, when did I start saying that?), myspace didn't exist. But really girls, have some common sense and delete your accounts before you file a federal lawsuit.

    solitary02-24-2006

    QUOTE(DimBulb @ Feb 23 2006, 07:56 PM) [snapback]169453[/snapback]

    If you were her, what do you think you would have done ? Soundslike they were truly frightened by the po-po.

    Run or fight. That's about it. Go back to bed? Only if it was to pick up the 30-06, a baseball bat or the ever cliched golf club. Maybe a photo of Micheal Jackson or Smithgall in a swimsuit. That might be considered unlawful use of lethal force. Either one of those would probably stop Freddy in his tracks.

    QUOTE(crushonyou @ Feb 24 2006, 11:00 AM) [snapback]169600[/snapback]

    Jackooboy I have to say I really disagree with you on what you think is over the line. Police officers, campus or borough are supposed to be a sign of security not harassment.

    Supposed to be...

    QUOTE(crushonyou @ Feb 24 2006, 11:00 AM) [snapback]169600[/snapback]

    I think it is very inappropriate for a male figure of authority to have three young females stand to "examine" their buttocks whether there was a streaker or not. I am sure these females were very affected by this event. I know that if this would have happened to me when I was in college I got stoI would not appreciated an older man looking at my buttocks and commenting on it.

    I got stopped for speeding in MI. The female cop had no problem frisking me. If it was for the fact that I hadn't seen it coming, it could have been funny. My girlfriend was with me, but I should have asked the out on a date. She let me go after making me pour out my beer. My unopened, in the back seat in a cooler beer.

    QUOTE(crushonyou @ Feb 24 2006, 11:00 AM) [snapback]169600[/snapback]

    And furthermore if something would have happened to these

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    females after this incident, would they have felt comfortable calling the police for help in any situation after being violated by them? Good to know that my tax dollars are paying for old police officers to violate young females trying to get an education!

    Unfortunately, I can't say that I'd feel comfortable calling the cops for any reason. The only reason that I would is because most of the time you'd spend time in the slammer if you do it yourself.

    All in all, the story's too weird to dismiss out of hand. On the otherhand, it's too weird to just accept straight away either. More info please. Transcripts of police radio would be a good start, Ron, can you get those?

    JohnQPublic02-24-2006

    QUOTE(rottiemom @ Feb 24 2006, 12:35 PM) [snapback]169625[/snapback]

    And the girls? tsk. tsk. Back in my day (egads, when did I start saying that?), myspace didn't exist. But really girls, have some common sense and delete your accounts before you file a federal lawsuit.

    Looks like they did shortly after the addresses were posted. I'm sure that if they wanted to they could subpoena the old accounts. There was another photo of Dana holding what looked like a Colt 45, the beer, not the gun. Should have saved all the photos.

    solitary02-24-2006

    QUOTE(JohnQPublic @ Feb 24 2006, 01:13 PM) [snapback]169633[/snapback]

    Looks like they did shortly after the addresses were posted. I'm sure that if they wanted to they could subpoena the old accounts. There was another photo of Dana holding what looked like a Colt 45, the beer, not the gun. Should have saved all the photos.

    At least you were on top of it, monday morning quarterback.

    Myspace, exposing personalities since 1996.Anyone have a FaceBook account? Any goodies in there?

    RonHarper02-24-2006

    QUOTE(solitary @ Feb 24 2006, 01:46 PM) [snapback]169629[/snapback]

    Transcripts of police radio would be a good start, Ron, can you get those?

    Not a public record in Pennsylvania. In discover, the girls should beable to get them.

    rottiemom... "in my day" what a hoot!

    I have heard good things of the police cheif in Millersville BTW.

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    rh

    P. Floyd02-24-2006

    QUOTE(solitary @ Feb 24 2006, 01:16 PM) [snapback]169636[/snapback]

    At least you were on top of it, monday morning quarterback.

    Myspace, exposing personalities since 1996.Anyone have a FaceBook account? Any goodies in there?

    i believe to look at someone's facebook profile you need to have gone to that school. that is the way it seems, in facebook you canonly see if someone is a member, to see their profile you have to be their "friend" or go to their school

    twatson302-24-2006

    As a staunch defender of cops, I really have to wonder what these guys were thinking. If the facts in the story are correct, these guys really put cops in a bad light.Please remember that police misconduct only represents a small portion of the officers, most of whom are trying to do a good job.

    Arby02-24-2006

    Can't wait for the court case. "Do you swear to tell the truth andnothing BUT the truth?"

    JohnQPublic02-24-2006

    Well, I went through my cache and found a few more. I didn't look at all their pics cause that would be creepy so I don't have all them.

    I'll admit I did my fair share of drinking in college, but after the whole people-identified-as-rioters-on-video thing at Penn State we didn't take too many photos of parties.

    DimBulb02-24-2006

    QUOTE(twatson3 @ Feb 24 2006, 01:41 PM) [snapback]169644[/snapback]

    As a staunch defender of cops, I really have to wonder what these guys were thinking. If the facts in the story are correct, these guys really put cops in a bad light.Please remember that police misconduct only represents a small portion of the officers, most of whom are trying to do a good job.

    If correct, then it looks like the girls have a strong case. The article

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    did not mention the amount of damages being sought in this Federal case. Maybe they come up with a number at a later date ?

    solitary02-24-2006

    QUOTE(P. Floyd @ Feb 24 2006, 01:32 PM) [snapback]169641[/snapback]

    i believe to look at someone's facebook profile you need to have gone to that school. that is the way it seems, in facebook you canonly see if someone is a member, to see their profile you have to be their "friend" or go to their school

    I don't know. I don't have an account, but there's got to be someone here who does.

    QUOTE(twatson3 @ Feb 24 2006, 01:41 PM) [snapback]169644[/snapback]

    As a staunch defender of cops, I really have to wonder what these guys were thinking. If the facts in the story are correct, these guys really put cops in a bad light.Please remember that police misconduct only represents a small portion of the officers, most of whom are trying to do a good job.

    There are plenty who try to do a good job, but there's far too many who are just egotistical jackasses. You and I could argue the some, many, most all day. There's not enough oversight of cops, I don't think there ever could be enough. I'm not taking sides at this point in time. I really wish I could say 'A police office would never do...' but that's not the case.

    Hammer02-24-2006

    I don`t know.If I was going to lose my job over looking at a few butts,I think I would have found some nice butts to look at That`sas unattractive a bunch of co-eds as I`ve ever seen

    lbooth02-24-2006

    Just an observation......

    Are you aware that neither Dana nor Kendra are Millersville students... only one of the girls is a student..soooo I don't understand why everyone is writing as if they are party girl students. They were assaulted by a police officer and if they were drinking the cops would have noticed and something would have been done about and if they were streaking do you really think they would have filed a law suit, making it public record so that everyone could get a hold of it? They would have tried to cover it up and not make a big deal about - especially so their parents wouldn't find out. Please ....people are digging way to deep into this.

    DimBulb02-24-2006

    QUOTE(solitary @ Feb 24 2006, 02:12 PM) [snapback]169658[/snapback]

    There's not enough oversight of cops, I don't think there evercould be enough.

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    i think that they should mount cameras on their hats, like some have mounted in their patrol units. Could be a good source ofrevenue. The on-cop-camera video of this episode would have beengreat.

    JohnQPublic02-24-2006

    Wonder of the streakers knew this guy:

    http://www.nbcolympics.com/torinotracker/5131225/detail.html

    solitary02-24-2006

    QUOTE(lbooth @ Feb 24 2006, 02:50 PM) [snapback]169670[/snapback]

    Just an observation......

    Are you aware that neither Dana nor Kendra are Millersville students... only one of the girls is a student..soooo I don't understand why everyone is writing as if they are party girl students. They were assaulted by a police officer and if they were drinking the cops would have noticed and something would have been done about and if they were streaking do you really think they would have filed a law suit, making it public record so that everyone could get a hold of it? They would have tried to cover it up and not make a big deal about - especially so their parents wouldn't find out. Please ....people are digging way to deep into this.

    Just an observation, if they said the cop slapped them at a drunk check point, I don't think we'd be digging this deep. Since it's so bizarre, that's why we're all looking.As far as the party girl thing, you don't have to go to school to become a party girl.Hell, you don't even need two firing brain cells to rub together, look at Paris Hilton.

    MllersvilleAlum02-24-2006

    QUOTE(lbooth @ Feb 24 2006, 02:50 PM) [snapback]169670[/snapback]

    Just an observation......

    Are you aware that neither Dana nor Kendra are Millersville students... only one of the girls is a student..soooo I don't understand why everyone is writing as if they are party girl students. They were assaulted by a police officer and if they were drinking the cops would have noticed and something would have been done about and if they were streaking do you really think they would have filed a law suit, making it public record so that everyone could get a hold of it? They would have tried to cover it up and not make a big deal about - especially so their parents wouldn't find out. Please ....people are digging way to deep into this.

    Just because they aren't students doesn't mean anything. I'm a recent grad (in the last 5 years) and from my experience the kids who stay around after they graduated, or never attended, are the

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    wilder ones who are there just for the college atmosphere of partying and carrying on. The one guy was on the police force for 26 years and this is his first incident? Please...sounds like someone literally got caught with their pants down and is now trying to cast a different light on the situation to save some face.

    DimBulb02-24-2006

    QUOTE(MllersvilleAlum @ Feb 24 2006, 03:46 PM) [snapback]169689[/snapback]

    The one guy was on the police force for 26 years and this is hisfirst incident? Please...

    The article did not mention his incident record.

    BeingReal02-24-2006

    QUOTE(JohnQPublic @ Feb 24 2006, 03:32 PM) [snapback]169682[/snapback]

    Wonder of the streakers knew this guy:

    http://www.nbcolympics.com/torinotracker/5131225/detail.html

    That is just nasty!

    DimBulb02-24-2006

    QUOTE(BeingReal @ Feb 24 2006, 04:14 PM) [snapback]169698[/snapback]

    That is just nasty!

    What does that guy's MySpace look like ??

    massagemama02-24-2006

    QUOTE(BeingReal @ Feb 24 2006, 04:14 PM) [snapback]169698[/snapback]

    That is just nasty!

    WHOA.....that's beyond nasty! It will be interesting to find out, {Ifwe ever will} what really went on.

    crushonyou02-24-2006

    Something tells me this cops incident record isn't very clean. Cops don't usually start illegally entering people's house after 26 years on the force. why now? I think this cop has been doing it for a long time and just has gotten away with it. I admire the females for standing up for themselves.

    crushonyou02-24-2006

    Good point lbooth. Something tells me if you were drinking and or streaking and the cops were at your house. You would have been in a lot of trouble especially the girls that are underage. And if these cops are the type of cops to illegally come into your house something tells me they wouldn't be letting people off for underage drinking. Especially the cop with the record for high arrests with drinking. If the girls were streaking or drinking they would be trying

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    to cover it up not file a lawsuit so that everyone would know about it. I mean read these comments look at all the accusations they have already had to take. People invading their privacy even more, looking up all their photos and accounts online. Something tells me if you're guilty you would keep quiet about it and just be happy that you got away with it.

    DimBulb02-24-2006

    QUOTE(JohnQPublic @ Feb 24 2006, 01:51 PM) [snapback]169648[/snapback]

    I'll admit I did my fair share of drinking in college...

    http://www.songmeanings.net/lyric.php?lid=13154

    andy__100002-24-2006

    QUOTE(rottiemom @ Feb 24 2006, 12:35 PM) [snapback]169625[/snapback]

    IBut really girls, have some common sense and delete your accounts before you file a federal lawsuit.

    But Mom, it's the internet age!

    andy__100002-24-2006

    QUOTE(JohnQPublic @ Feb 24 2006, 01:51 PM) [snapback]169648[/snapback]

    Well, I went through my cache and found a few more. I didn't look at all their pics cause that would be creepy so I don't have all them.

    I'll admit I did my fair share of drinking in college, but after the whole people-identified-as-rioters-on-video thing at Penn State we didn't take too many photos of parties.

    Curiousity forces me to ask....do you know these girls personally?Or was it a google search?

    crushonyou02-24-2006

    JohnQPublic why do you have so many pictures? Definitely creepy. I think these girls should be taking a restraining order out on you.

    why?02-24-2006

    i drank in college, and there were some pictures, but who in their right mind would put the pics online if they were underage? really, now.

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