Neutrinos as Probes: Solar-, Geo-, Supernova neutrinos; Laguna
Solar models Composition, neutrinos & accretion Aldo Serenelli (MPA)
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Transcript of Solar models Composition, neutrinos & accretion Aldo Serenelli (MPA)
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Solar modelsComposition, neutrinos & accretion
Aldo Serenelli (MPA)
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Outline
Abundances from solar photosphere3D-atmosphere modelline formation
Effects on helioseismology and neutrinoscan experiments tell something about Z?
Accretion onto the Sun? Surface/core composition difference
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Revision of solar abundances
Solar atmosphere: convection 3-D models
Improved atomic and molecular trans. prob.
Relaxation of LTE assumption
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Solar atmosphere
Credit: N. Brummell
1D models do not capturebasic structure of atmosphere
Energy transported by convection,radiated away at the top
Flow is turbulent
Up- and downward flows asymmetric
Not unique relation T vs. depth
Magnetic fields
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3D models
“Box in a star”: simultaneous solution of radiative transfer (RT) and hydrodynamic equations
RT is “rudimentary”:
frequency dependent opacities combined in a few (4 to 12) bins(10^5 in 1D)
LTE not good opacities (e.g Mg I, Ca I, Si I, Fe I)
1D models used as benchmarkeffects on 3D may be different
However… it looks goodCredit: Bob Stein
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3D models – testing the model
Good handle on granulation
topology
timescales
convective velocities
intensity brightness contrast
Credit: Bob Stein
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3D models – testing the model
Line shapes: bisectors
Asplund et al. 2000
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3D models – testing the model
Limb darkening
Credit: Matt Carlsson
Asplund et al. 2009
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3D models – testing the model
Other models
CO5BOLD (aka Paris group)
Max Planck for Solar System Research (coming from solar MHD)
Ludwig et al. 2010
Comparison of structure between models undergoing (slowly)
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Asplund et al. 2009
3D background model atmosphere
detailed radiation transfer for line formation
determination of abundances
3D models – line formation
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3D models – line formation
Formal requirement: 3D background model + 3D-RT and 3D-NLTE
In practice
3D-RT + 3D-NLTE only for O
Different combinations3D-RT + 1D-NLTE (e.g. C)Multi 1D + 1D-NLTE (e.g. Fe)1D + 1D-NLTE 1D + LTE
Warning: e- and H collision rates (crucial for NLTE) missing for almost all elements, including C & N
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3D models – line formation
Pros: identification of blends
Asplund et al. 2009
But be aware of inconsistent treatment of linesin blends e.g. [OI] and Ni
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3D models – line formation
Pros: consistency (after some massage), e.g. atomic and molecular (very T sensitive) indicators
Asplund et al. 2009
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3D models – line formation
Agreement with meteoritic abundances
Asplund et al. 2009
Si used as reference
=0.00 +- 0.05 dex
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3D models – last two words of warning
Hydrogen (T sensitive) lines poorly reproduced
Regardless of central values, small uncertainties (too optimistic?)Caffau et al. give systematically larger CNO abundances &uncertainties, x2 for C
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Effect on solar models: Helioseismology
Reduction in CNONe (30-40%) boundary in RCZ
Reduction in Ne + Si, S, Fe (10%) YS
Sound speed Density
Z/X= 0.0229 (GS98), 0.0178 (AGSS09)
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Effect on solar models: Helioseismology
Estimation of uncertainties in sound speed and densityfrom MC simulations (5000 models)
Density profile: excellent exampleof correlated differences
AGS05
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Effect on solar models: Helioseismology
Low degree modes (l=0, 1, 2, 3) from +4700 days BiSON
Separation ratios
r
dr
dr
dc
nr
nrR
nn
nn
nn
nn
0
0,0,1
3,11,13
1,11,
2,10,02
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Enhance effects in the core
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Effect on solar models: Helioseismology
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Effect on solar models: Helioseismology
GS98 models
AGS05 models
e averagedover R < 0.2R
Both compositionse = 0.723±0.003
Chaplin et al. (2007)
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Effect on solar models: Helioseismology
Christensen-Dalsgaard (2009)
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Effect on solar models: neutrino fluxes
Direct measurementsof 7Be and 8B from Borexino and SNO
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Effect on solar models: neutrino fluxes
Gonzalez-Garcia et al. arxiv: 0910.4584
Global analysis of solar & terrestrial data
3 flavor-mixing framework
Basic constraints from pp-chains and CNO cicles
Luminosity constraint (optional)
Exhaustive discussion of importance of Borexino
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Effect on solar models: neutrino fluxes
Luminosity constraint
006.0005.0
005.0006.0
014.0
986.0
CNO
pp
L
L
No luminosity constraint
005.0007.0
15.014.0
015.0
98.0
CNO
pp
L
L
No Borexino
Borexino
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Effect on solar models: neutrino fluxes
Gonzalez-Garcia et al. arxiv: 0910.4584
GS98
AGS05
P(GS98) = 43%
P(AGS05)= 20%
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Effect on solar models: neutrino fluxes
GS98 AGS05 AGS092= 5.2 (74%) 5.7 (68%) 5.05 (76%) Is comparison fair?
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Additional motivation to measure CN fluxes
Solar vs. solar twins (Melendez et al. 2009, Ramirez et al. 2009)same Teff, same gravity, same Fe abundance same systematics differential study
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Additional motivation to measure CN fluxes
Volatiles
Refractories
(V/R) ~ 0.05-0.08 dex > (V/R)twins
IF evidence for accretion after planet formation
solar interior solar twins
interior ≠ surface (eg AGS09)
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Additional motivation to measure CN fluxes
Twins composition
Transition
“Solar comp.”
(V/R) 0.05-0.10 dex contrast between interior and surfacein addition to overall Z contrast
CN fluxes affected linearly
Accretion: schematic composition stratification
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Conclusions
Abundances3D atmosphere models big step forwardline formation still mostly 1DNLTE effects: sometimes, not in 3D atm. modelinconsistent treatment of different elements and linessystematics not well understooddifferent groups – different results (abundances and errors)
Solar models: helioseismologynothing fits in low-Z modelsdifferent constraints sensitive to different abundances
Solar models: neutrinoscurrent experiments do not discriminate between ZCN measurement neededtest of accretion?