Software Liability?: The Worst Possible Idea (Except for all Others)
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Software Liability?: The Worst Possible Idea (Except For All Others)
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Jake KounsChief Information Security OfficerRisk Based Security@jkouns
Joshua CormanCTOSonatype@joshcorman
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Worst quality image (except all others)
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Agenda
Why Liability? Why now?
Product Liability 101
Product Liability Implementation
Why NOT to have Product Liability for Software Vendors
Some Economics
What is Changing the Equation
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Triggers…
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Our Bodies
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In our homes
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Our Infrastructure
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Product Liability
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Defined
Wikipedia definition: Product liability is the area of law in which manufacturers, distributors,
suppliers, retailers, and others who make products available to the public are held responsible for the injuries those products cause.
Although the word "product" has broad connotations, product liability as an area of law is traditionally limited to products in the form of tangible personal property.
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Manufacturing Defects
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Design Defects
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Failure To Warn
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Failure To Warn
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Failure To Warn
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Failure To Warn
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Breach of Warranty
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Consumer Protection
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Product Liability Implementation
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Who knows the name of this car?
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Ford Pinto
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Ford Pinto (1971 – 1980)
Allegations that the Pinto's structural design allowed its fuel tank filler neck to break off and the fuel tank to be punctured in a rear-end collision, resulting in deadly fires from spilled fuel.
27 deaths were attributed to Pinto fires.
According to a 1977 Mother Jones article by Mark Dowie, Ford allegedly was aware of the design flaw, refused to pay for a redesign, and decided it would be cheaper to pay off possible lawsuits.
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Intended Value and Impact
Companies put a larger emphasis on prevention of issues
Companies put a larger emphasis on testing / precautions
Companies put a culture in place and don’t take unnecessary risks due to financial impact
Better risk management for the entire company
If a company becomes aware of an issue, they act quickly to correct
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Any issues with hot coffee?
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Very well known case!
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Liebeck v. McDonald’s Restaurants (1994)
Known as the McDonald's coffee case and the hot coffee lawsuit
A New Mexico civil jury awarded $2.86 million to plaintiff Stella Liebeck who had suffered third-degree burns in her pelvic region when she accidentally spilled hot coffee in her lap after purchasing it from a McDonald's restaurant.
Liebeck was hospitalized for eight days while she underwent skin grafting, followed by two years of medical treatment.
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When Product Liability Goes Wrong?
McDonald’s hot coffee is thought to be when legal system goes wrong!
Most actually don’t know the correct full story!
This is really a case of “Failure To Warn” Documents obtained from McDonald's showed that from 1982 to 1992 the
company had received more than 700 reports of people burned by McDonald's coffee
Varying degrees of severity, and had settled claims arising from scalding injuries for more than $500,000.
Questions were asked why was it so hot?
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Does this provide value to end consumers / users of the product?
McDonald’s Coffee
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Restaurant Health Codes
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Deceptive Products
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Product Recalls
Consumer Products appliances, clothing, electronic / electrical. furniture, household, children's
products, lighting / lighter, outdoor, sports / exercise
Motor Vehicles and Tires
Child Safety Seats
Food and Medicine
Cosmetics and Environmental Products
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Software Product Recalls?
When the product is marketed to be secure and it isn’t how do software vendors handle it?
No more security patches of fixes for the product?
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Product Liability for Software Vendors
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Software Liability
Software Liability: Our Saving Grace or Kiss of Death? Debated by Marcus Ranum and Bruce Schneier at RSA 2012
At this point, the issue seems to be still unresolved With most people being on the side that it is an awful idea
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Software Liability: Worst Idea
Josh: Insert the mind map
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Reason #1 - The Worst Possible Idea
Stifle Innovation New features and ideas would be slow to market due to financials
exposures
Fewer features
Slower time to market
Could hurt competitiveness and/or client satisfaction
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Reason #2 - The Worst Possible Idea
Barriers to Entry? Could Hurt Small Businesses and Startups
Large enterprises would easily adjust to additional overhead, but cripple new and small businesses
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Reason #3 - The Worst Possible Idea
Economic Impacts What does this mean to the economy? Potential for massive amount of
money to change hands. The uncertainty alone makes it an awful idea.
“IT” and Software we/are HUGE parts of the US GDP (and growing faster)
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Reason #4 - The Worst Possible Idea
Vendor Impact Companies unable to handle the cost
Raise prices But this is specious for a few reasons:
True Costs and Least Cost Avoiders are more efficient for the system
Hidden Costs and Cost of Ownership changes must be factored
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Restaurant Health Codes
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Counters to: The Worst Possible Idea
Food Safety Cars
1) Stifle Innovation Chef’s can’t innovate? Safety Differentiation
2) Barriers to Entry Good! Outstanding!
3) Economic Impact Doubtful Premium Pricing
4) Raise Prices/Exit Markets To avoid illness/disease? Free Market Demand
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What’s Working To Influence Better Security Practices?
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What Are We Doing To Improve Security?
PCI/DSS*
SOX*
Market Forces* Companies only pick secure software (if they care)
HHS/HITECH (regulatory fines)*
SEC*
FTC*
*Debatable
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Software Vulnerabilities Over time2013: 10,2802012: 9,9092011: 7,7512010: 9,0542009: 8,0922008: 9,6962007: 9,5382006: 11,0092005: 7,858
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Data Breaches Over Time
Source: Risk Based Security - https://cyberriskanalytics.com
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Why Aren’t We Improving?
Complexity
Costs
No real impact to end consumer?
No real property or injury type issues?
People just don’t really care?
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Some Economics
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On Free Market Forces…
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Information Asymmetry and Signaling
Seller Knows
Buyer Knows
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True Costs & Least Cost Avoiders
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Defensibility Index
GoalSecurity++SecurityBase
Passing the Buck (and Cost)
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True Costs & Least Cost Avoiders: Downstream
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The Fallacy of Broken Windows
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True Costs & Least Cost Avoiders
ACME
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Manufacturing
BioPharma
Education
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Where Do We Go From Here?
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The World Is Changing
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Reliance On Poor Software
Poor software with security issues in the new Internet of Things world can now lead to:• Bodily Injury• Property Damage• Financial Harm
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Product Liability Is Already Here
Its not the software that hurts the people, it’s a component of a larger finished product, making it a product failure not just the software.
MacPherson v. Buick Motor Co., 217 N.Y. 382, 111 N.E. 1050 (1916) Donald C. MacPherson was injured when one of the wooden wheels of his
1909 "Buick Runabout" collapsed
Buick Motor Company, had manufactured the vehicle, but not the wheel, which had been manufactured by another party but installed by defendant.
Software responsibility is going to be on final good manufacturer (no matter what) that is delivering the final product
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Product Liability Is Already Here
The important portion of the MacPherson opinion: “If the nature of a thing is such that it is reasonably certain to
place life and limb in peril when negligently made, it is then a thing of danger. Its nature gives warning of the consequence to be expected. If to the element of danger there is added knowledge that the thing will be used by persons other than the purchaser, and used without new tests, then, irrespective of contract, the manufacturer of this thing of danger is under a duty to make it carefully. That is as far as we need to go for the decision of this case . . . . If he is negligent, where danger is to be foreseen, a liability will follow”
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Software Part Of The Final Product
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Financial Liability For Data Breach Already Exists
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Financial Liability For Data Breach Already Exists
“Enhanced security and manageability via comprehensive and flexible access and authorization control”
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Expansion Of Liability Is Likely Coming
Liability already exists due to a data breach Currently on the company that had the breach regardless if it was the fault
of a software product they purchased and expect security in place
Large companies can handle the costs, however, small businesses filing for bankruptcy Doing everything right but the software they purchased with an
expectation to be secure isn’t
Is this right?
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Not from Whole Cloth
UL for electronics
NTSB & ASRS for aviation
NHSTB? or NHTSA? for vehicles
FDA & DHS ICS-CERT for medical
FCC for “radio controlled”
FTC for enforcement
SEC for publically traded
Consumer Reports?
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Taking Care: Incentives Incentivize (Perversely)
Let’s NOT recreate PCI DSS Outcomes over Inputs (Control Objectives over Controls)
Visibility to support Free Market Forces and Choice
Filter on “With the potential to affect human life and public safety”
Due Care / Negligence / Reasonability Software must be “Patchable”
HDMoore’s Law (and/or OWASP Top 10?)
We had better know what we really want to incentivize…
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Yes… HDMoore’s Law (Bellis & Roytman [&Geer])
“Punchline: Using CVSS to steer remediation is nuts, ineffective, deeply diseconomic, and knee jerk; given the availability of data it is also passe’, which we will now demonstrate.”
-Geer/Roytman
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How Could Software Liability Work?
Not be prescriptive on what needs to be done / security implement
Allow for the concept of liability to exist in software world Not just for tangible products
Not just for Bodily Injury / Property Damage
Ensure security is not the last items on the priority list (new features FTW)
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The EULA Elephant in the Room…
EULAs may be the primary obstacle
These 1 sided contracts cannot be overlooked
EULA Reform may be close E.g. No more than 1 page of plain
speak
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Things you can do
Investigate/Join “The Cavalry” @iamthecavalry Public Safety & Human Life
Watch Hot Coffee
Reading: Geekonomics by David Rice
Therac-25 History
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Discussion!
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Jake KounsChief Information Security OfficerRisk Based Security@jkouns
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