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Professional Land Surveyors of Colorado Volume 44, Issue 2

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Volume 44 Number 2

� President’s Letter ............................................................4

� From the Editor ...............................................................5

� What you Missed at the RMSS Annual Conference .........................................................7

� WFPS Meeting, Salt Lake City, March 1 ........................8

� Sole Practitioners in Land Surveying..............................9

� How Can the PLSC Best Communicate with its Membership? ....................................................12

� Rule of the Month ........................................................15

� Calibration Baselines Notice .........................................16

� Control Points #20 – the Cubit......................................17

� BLM Cadastral Survey Letter .......................................18

� BLM Plats/Field Notes Locations Letter........................19

� The New PLSC Website has Arrived! ...........................20

� Update from the Legislative Committee .......................22

� Membership Application................................................24

� PLSC Chapter Summit, February 28 ............................25

� Chapter News ...............................................................28

� Sustaining Members .....................................................30

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DEDICATED TO THE IMPROVEMENT OF LAND SURVEYING EDUCATION AND PRACTICE.

We have concluded our 2013 Surveyor’s Summit and by thefeedback that I received from attendees, the Summit was viewed asa success. Appreciation was expressed for the range of topics andquality of speakers. This event would not have been possible with-out the hard work and dedication of the PLSC education committeeand those that assisted at the Summit. There are too many toname individually without missing someone therefore I would like topass along my appreciation to those that worked so hard to makethe event a success. We have committed to the Arvada Center for next year’s Survey-or’s Summit and I look forward to another great lineup and increased attendance.

I want to recap a few of the PLSC’s accomplishments over the past two years.PLSC finances were managed to the budget, communication with chapter representa-tives has improved, but still needs work, the Central Chapter completed a membershipdrive, and the PLSC website has been revamped. I know there will be many sugges-tions for the new website and ask that suggestions be forwarded to Becky Roland forcompilation and prioritization as the budget to make changes will be respected.

The PLSC is still working with our lobbyist to make sure that SB13-161 passeswith current amendments to disallow “fishing” in Colorado. Our legislative committeehas been successful to date working with PLSC’s lobbyist to amend SB13-161, work-ing with the engineers and architects representatives to present a united front, testify-ing at Senate committee hearings and continually monitoring newly introduced bills toassure the interest of professional surveyors in Colorado are protected.

The PLSC elections were completed prior to the Surveyor’s Summit and I wouldlike to welcome newly elected board members Kayce Wohlman representing theNorthern Chapter, Leif Joy representing the Northwest Quarter Chapter, Patrick Greenrepresenting the Western Chapter, and Alan Blair representing the Central Chapter tothe board of directors for a four year term. Todd Beers (CCPS), Peter Krick (WCLS),Bill Buntrock (CCPS), and Parker Newby (SWC/PLSC) round out the board with aremaining two year term. We will be naming an ex-officio member to the PLSC Boardfrom the CSRN Chapter to complete representation from all chapters. Mike Bouchardwas re-elected as Vice President and Terry Maw was re-elected as Secretary/Treasur-er both serving a two year term. I again thank our membership for their trust in re-electing me as president for a two year term. I am excited that we have such diversityon our board and look forward to working alongside these individuals that have dedi-cated their time and efforts for the PLSC. The Board understands that member feed-back is essential to our success and for improvements to be made, so be sure to con-tact chapter representatives to have your voice heard.

Looking ahead, the PLSC is in the process of finalizing our 2013 budget andobjectives. Unfortunately these items will not be complete in time for inclusion in thisaddition of Side Shots.

Sincerely, Roger D. Nelson, PLS, CFedS

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OFFICERS (2011-2012)

MICHEAL BOUCHARDVICE PRESIDENTO: (719) 590-9194

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TOM ADAMSPAST PRESIDENTO: (719) 546-5454

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ROGER NELSONPRESIDENT

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TERRY MAWSECRETARY/TREASURER

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BECKY ROLANDEXECUTIVE DIRECTOR

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DIRECTORS (2011-2014)

TODD BEERSO: (720) 225-4646

PETER KRICKO: (970) 256-4003

WILLIAM BUNTROCKO: (303) 829-4047

PARKER NEWBYO: (970) 247-1705

DIRECTORS (2013-2016)

KAYCE WOHLMANO: (303) 443-3282

LEIF JOYO:(970-878-5292

PATRICK GREENO: (970) 245-4099

ALAN BLAIRO: (303) 808-0981

WFPS DELEGATES (2013-2014)

JOHN B. GUYTONO: (303) 443-7001

MICHEAL BOUCHARDO: (719) 590-9194

NSPS GOVERNOR (2013-2014)

WARREN D. WARDO: (970) 725-3347

The cover of this issue includes justa few of the many photos taken duringthe 3rd Annual Surveyors Summit atthe Arvada Center that took place fromFebruary 28th to March 2nd. It wasvery gratifying to see so many peoplein the surveying/GIS community fromall parts of the state gathered togetherfor classroom instruction, vendor dis-plays, the annual meeting, forums, net-

working, good food and camaraderie. If you were notable to attend this year, or were on the fence about goingand held off, see this month’s article, “What you Missed atthe RMSS Annual Conference” article by Todd Beers. Ifyou are a surveyor in Colorado, you really must partici-pate next year.

I had the honor of facilitating the Chapter Summit meet-ing on the first evening of the conference. It was nice tosee some familiar faces, and even nicer to meet some newpeople among the 27 attendees who expressed andexchanged their views on a variety of topics with the gover-nance of the PLSC. The minutes of this meeting appear inthis issue. The minutes from two Board of Directors meet-ings, and an NSPS update, can be found at www.plsc.net,as space did not permit inclusion in this issue.

This month there is an excellent article by MarkJohannes about the risks and benefits of going out onyour own as a sole practitioner. A significant percentageof the professional land surveyors in Colorado have done

this, and I would like to hear your stories as well. ToddBeers has written an article on the subject of PLSC com-munications with the membership, Mike Bouchard hasprovided an update on the Western Federation of Profes-sional Surveyors meeting in Salt Lake City, and Earl Hen-derson has written about his Rule of the Month, on platsto be deposited.

Brian Dennis has provided an article about the all newPLSC.net website. I think it will inspire you to go to yourcomputer, tablet or smartphone and take a look. WarrenAndrews has provided another thoughtful Control Points,The Cubit. He is up to number 20; I expect him to do atleast 20 more in the future! Randy Bloom of the BLM hasprovided a cadastral survey letter and a notice about platsand field note locations. Pam Fromhertz included a noticeabout calibration baselines. Alan Blair has given us aLegislative Committee update. And last but never least,the chapters have provided all of us with their latest news.

There is a membership application form included inthis issue; current members should be receiving emailnotices, which make renewals quick and easy to do. Youcan also sign up on the website, or mail in the paper form.The important thing is to just get it done. If you are apracticing surveyor in Colorado, you need the benefits thePLSC provides, and the PLSC needs to hear from you!

JB Guyton,Editor, Side Shots

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This Month on PLSC.netPlease check the newly designed website for the following additional articles:

The National Society of Professional Surveyors Update, March 31, 2013

Minutes of the December 4, 2012 Board of Directors Meeting

Minutes of the March 21, 2013 Board of Directors Meeting

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The 3rd Annual Rocky Mountain Survey Summit washeld February 28-March 2, 2013 at the Arvada Center inArvada, Colorado. The conference was successful withover 220 attendees participating in the event. The con-ference included attendees that traveled from the fourcorners of Colorado, plus Wyoming, New Mexico, Okla-homa, Oregon and Alaska to name just a few locations.In case you were unable to attend the event, we wantedto let you know some of the items you missed!

General Items of interest at the conference included thefollowing:

• Over 15 exhibitors from Colorado and nationwide hadan opportunity to showcase their services and sup-plies. The exhibitors presented a brief introductionregarding their services and several held individual raf-fles with some very interesting prizes!

• Competitive events including distance measurementestimate, pacing estimating, wiggle in and chain throw-ing contests. Plaques were presented to the winner ofeach contest.

• Our annual plat contest included 4 categories thisyear-Boundary, General, Topographic and GIS map-ping.

• For the first there were opportunities for corporatesponsorships for the conference (9 gold and 1 bronzesponsor). The sponsors were able to display signsand provided handouts at their respective speakertrack rooms. Each sponsor was recognized atannouncements and during the morning track introduc-tions. We look forward to continuing this opportunityat next year’s conference.

• An exhibitor social on Thursday evening provided anopportunity for additional networking, socializing withattendees and discussions with exhibitors.

• The PLSC 2013-2014 Board of Directors wereannounced and introduced to the conference atten-dees at the Annual PLSC meeting held during theThursday lunch hour.

• PLSC awards were presented during the Friday lunchhour.

• Raffles were held during each lunch hour with manyprizes donated by the exhibitors, chapters and theBLM.

• A questionnaire for the attendees was distributed forcompletion and good input provided by the responses.

• Long time members (20 years and longer) of thePLSC were recognized during the Friday lunch hour

and presented with special lapel pins. We are gratefulfor these long time members and hope to increase ourmembership in the future.

• The annual Chapter Summit was conducted on Thurs-day evening with 27 people in attendance representingthe majority of the chapters of the PLSC. The ChapterSummit is an opportunity for the members of the 7chapters of the PLSC to provide input into how thestate organization is doing, identify items of interest forthe organization to pursue and provide direction to thestate organization. A very productive meeting washeld and provided action items for the PLSC to takeon for the 2013 year. Much appreciation to all inattendance for their participation.

• There were 4 tracks for attendees to choose fromincluding Professional, Business\General, Technicaland Technician. A brief review of the speakers andtheir respective topics of discussion is provided below:

The professional track included nationally and locallyrenowned speakers:

• Mr. Jeff Lucas, PLS, nationally recognized author pro-vided two days of spirited and enthusiastic presenta-tions on “The Pincushion Effect” and “What WentWrong-A Study in Surveyor Error and Omissions.”

• Mr. Larry Phipps, PLS, nationally known speaker pro-vided four presentations; “Ethics for the Land Survey-or,” “Traverse Analysis and Adjustment,” “ImplementingValue Pricing” and “ALTA\ACSM New Standards andHow to Apply Them.”

• A new event this year was a “Survey Symposium” withthe topic of Improvement Location Certificates. Thiswas a panel event with input provided by the audi-ence. This event was free to interested parties andincluded panel members from the Colorado Board ofRegistration, real estate professionals, title companies,PLSC Legislative Committee and practitioners ofILC’s. A lot of great discussion occurred and follow upaction items were identified. This event will continuein future conferences as one avenue to potentially pro-vide direction for the PLSC legislative committee forthe coming years. Don’t miss this opportunity to haveyour voice heard!

• On the local front two presentations pertaining to sur-veying in the City and County of Denver were providedby Mr. Warren Ruby, PLS on “A Brief History of Sur-veying in the City of Denver, The First 200 Years” fol-lowed by Mr. Randy Fortuin, PLS on “Surveying theCity and County of Denver.” Both sessions providedinsight into the unique surveys performed in the city.

What You Missed At The RMSS Annual Conference!By Todd Beers, PLS

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• BLM representative, Mr. Mark Smirnov, PLS discussed“Rocky Mountain Riparian Boundaries” which affectslicensees practicing along the Rocky Mountains.

The technical track included a variety of subjects fromGPS to GIS:

• Compass Tools provided a session on “Trimble’sMGIS High Accuracy Options, 30 cm, 10 cm and 1cm.”

• Mr. Bryan Baker spoke on “GNSS Constellationupdate, New RTX Technology and FCC Narrowband-ing Issues.”

• Mr. Harold Schuch provided “An Introduction to Geo-desy” discussion.

• Ms. Pam Fromhertz, NGS State Geodetic Advisor forColorado discussed “NGS Latest Developments.”

• Mr. Marcus Reedy, PLS discussed “Introduction ofMapping on Multiple Recording Platforms (3D Terres-trial LiDAR, Mobile LiDAR and GeoAutomation®).”These newer technologies can revolutionize the waywe perform some types of surveys in the future.

• Ms. Alison Walls and Brian Hailey presented “Auto-mate your drafting using feature codes — From field tofinish using Trimble Business Center and exporting toCivil 3D.”

• Mr. Ken Martinez on “Civil 3D, Tips & Tricks for theSurveyor” providing insight into the software programfrom the surveyors point of view.

The Business\General track included subjects from titlecompanies to Colorado State Boundaries:

• Mr. Geoffrey Anderson on “Real Estate Litigation:Where the Surveyor Fits In.”

• Our own Colorado attorney and long time friend of thePLSC, Mr. Dave Pehr, Esq. provided two sessions on“Where to Find the Sources of Colorado Survey Law”and “Case Studies that have Shaped Boundary Loca-tion in Colorado.” Both sessions were well attendedand provided a lot of valuable history and backgroundinformation pertaining to Colorado surveyors.

• Mr. Dean Rybal spoke on “Working With the TitleInsurance Industry.”

• Mr. Earl Henderson, PLS, provided two sessions on“The Kinks & the Corners, A Brief History of the origi-nal surveys of the South and West lines of Coloradoand the Four Corners Monument” and a roundtablediscussion on “Colorado Surveying.”

• Mr. Bob Green, PLS presented “Getting the most outof Office Software and Unique Kinematic and PostProcessed Solutions.”

The Technician Track included representatives fromservice providers and local speakers including:

• Our long time friend and instructor Mr. Gaby Neunzerton “Instrument Errors and Adjustments.”

• Mr. Ken Wright, et al provided a very interesting seriesof presentations on Paleontology and surveying inancient times. Several projects were highlighted inthis illuminating discussion.

Save the date for the 4th Annual RMSS Conferencenext year February 27-March 1, 2014 at the ArvadaCenter. We hope to see you there!!

Western Federation of Professional Surveyors

Board of Directors Meeting, SaltLake City, Utah, March 1, 2013

By Micheal Bouchard, PLS

The Western Federation of Professional Survey-ors (WFPS) is an organization representing the sur-veyors of the western part of the United States. Aspart of its existence, it is dedicated to the educationand dissemination of surveying knowledge to itsmembers. The meeting in Utah was a collaborationof the Utah Council of Land Surveyors (UCLS) andthe WFPS to produce the Annual UCLS Conference.WFPS members were the featured speakers andguests for one of the three days of the conference.So it was only fitting that a large portion of the WPSPBOD meeting focused on education. The Board hasstarted putting together a list of speakers/subjects sothat WFSP and surveying organizations will have aresource to use when developing programs, confer-ences or other informational venues. This is anongoing process and I will keep you updated as thelist develops and grows. Another educational pro-gram that the WFPS is championing is TwiST (Teach-ing with Spatial Technology). This is a program thatteaches teachers about the Surveying professionsand the disciplines that have become part of the pro-fession. WFPS and the National Council of Examin-ers for Engineering and Surveying (NCEES) areworking together to develop and sponsor a workshopfor teachers to learn about our profession and thengo back to the classroom and stimulate studentstowards our profession. I know what you’re thinking -Our profession could use some stimulation!

This is a partial report due to the fact that I havenot received the official minutes of the last meeting,so I will defer giving the state by state report untillater, and I will quit here. I will continue my report inthe next issue of Side Shots.

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Recently I joined the growingcadre of professional land surveyorswho have gone out on their own as asole practitioner. Since my first sur-veying job in 1984 I have worked atengineering or surveying firms, bothlarge and small, so there was definite-ly risk involved in trading in the securi-ty of a steady paycheck and a regularschedule for the opportunity to buildsomething of my own.

The reasons people have for starting their own busi-nesses are legion. For some fellows I know, it was outof necessity, due to being laid off from their place ofwork. For others, it was simply a desire to be on theirown and to have more control over their schedule,workload and type of work they wanted to do.

I felt that I too wanted to be on my own, to do thetype of work I wanted to, to be home more, to take timeoff when I wanted and to be more involved with thePLSC and my Chapter.

One important objective I had with starting a busi-ness was to not go into debt to do it. That isn't to sayone shouldn't borrow money to start their business. Itjust was something I did not want to do.

Before I started out I only had a truck. For the firstfew projects I borrowed equipment from a friend. Then Iwas presented with an opportunity to acquire equipmentof my own when a gold mine wanted to get rid of alltheir old equipment gathering dust on a shelf. I was ableto pick up some equipment in good condition for a greatprice. Another friend gave me a couple of tripods and aprism pole. These things enabled me to get started inthe business and I have been purchasing new equip-ment as I have the means. I really couldn't have gottenthis far without the help of some of my surveyor friends.

The advent of robotic and GPS equipment allowsone person to perform most land surveying tasks indi-vidually. As for myself, I perform most of my work with atotal station, enlisting the aid of my son, who is in col-lege and lives at home. When the necessity arises, Iborrow or rent a robotic instrument or a GPS system tocomplete a particular project.

Some of the challenges I have found are onesexperienced by any business owner, be it large or small:bringing in work, performing the work, getting paid forthe work, affording insurance, affording supplies andother items and not letting the business consume all ofmy time and energy. I have my wife to thank for makingsure I am not working from dawn to dusk and makingsure that I keep my life somewhat balanced.

To date, most of the work I have received came tome predominately through the relationships I havedeveloped over the years. Certain individuals had heardthat I had gone out on my own and contacted me. Otherwork has come from surveyors who had referred thework to me. Another opportunity for work has comethrough teaming up with other firms. Several times Ihave worked with another sole practitioner on projectsthat neither of us could do alone. I have also had oppor-tunities to contract with larger firms that were experienc-ing a sudden, temporary increase in their workload butdidn't want to add to their staff. Other times I have con-tracted with companies that had work in one of theother states in which I am licensed and who needed meto review and stamp their work.

Of course, having a robust website in this day andage is not only a good idea, it is critical. As time goes on,I am finding that more of the requests I receive come viamy website. In addition to the obligatory Search EngineOptimization (SEO) and at the suggestion of anotherfriend who started his business about 5 years before Idid, I am trying to establish a more visible presence onthe web by getting my name onto as many of the busi-ness search sites that are out there such as Yelp, Super-pages, Manta, etc. Other avenues I have pursued aresigning up with the Better Business Bureau and Angie'sList. It is too soon to tell if any of these approaches aresuccessful, but if I don't try it, I won't know.

One of the challenges involved with obtaining workinvolves competing against larger firms that have moreextensive resources dedicated to obtaining contracts.One example is responding to an RFP that other, largerfirms are preparing proposals for. These larger firmsusually have people dedicated to just preparing propos-als. On the other hand, I have to find time between fieldwork, drafting, billing, obtaining supplies, phone calls,emails, running to the bank and being a husband andfather to try to prepare at least a decent proposal.

Another challenge that arises from competing withthe larger firms is how to present myself as being capa-ble to perform the work when the other firms have muchmore in the way of resources and personnel. First, Ihave to accept the fact that there will always be projectsI simply cannot or should not bid on. I do not want tocommit to do something I know I cannot do in the timeframe required. Second, for those projects I do feelcapable of handling, I have to craft my proposal in sucha way as to convince the prospective client that all ofmy time, energy and resources will be dedicated tocompleting the project on time, on budget and as accu-rately and thoroughly as possible. That is where team-ing up with others can be beneficial.

One of my goals I set when I established my busi-ness was to gain a reputation for being responsive to

Sole Practitioners in Land SurveyingBy Mark Johannes, PLS

Mark Johannes, PLS

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clients. For the most part, I have been fairly responsivebut there have been times when it seems that everyonewanted their work done right now (sound familiar?).When those times do happen I reach out to my friendwho is also a sole proprietor and ask him to do somedrafting or help me in the field. We both benefit in that Icontinue to meet my deadlines and I help his cash flow.And the arrangement is reciprocal. I help him when heneeds it.

Speaking of cash flow, while having money comingin regularly is very important to any size business I cer-tainly can say that it is probably the biggest cause ofstress for me. Having a comfortable accounts receivablemay look good in Quickbooks, but it generally fails toimpress the mortgage or utility company and cannot putgas in my truck. I simply cannot imagine what it feelslike to have to make payroll every two weeks, in addi-tion to keeping the lights on at the office. Having a lineof credit at the bank helps even out the cash flow, but itis only a temporary fix and only goes so far.

Having regular clients who pay promptly has helpedto keep some money flowing into the bank on a fairlysteady basis, but such clients are generally the excep-tion, as most business owners can attest. So managingAccounts Receivable is another task I perform.

Having ventured thus far into the world of self-employment I can say that I am glad I made the deci-sion. Sure, I have given up the security of a steady pay-

check and relatively secure future but I still have noregrets. I like the fact that it is I and I alone who isresponsible for delivering a service that is done to mysatisfaction.

Just as the small business owner is the backboneof our economy, the independent surveyor is vital to theland surveying profession. I think it would be great if thePLSC could provide some tools to help them succeed.

Some possible ways the PLSC could help are asfollows:

I feel that the sole proprietor could be a valuableresource for large firms needing to address a suddenincrease in workload without adding staff. Perhaps thePLSC could sponsor some sort of clearinghouse ofinformation about sole proprietors available on a shortterm basis.

Another way the PLSC could assist the sole propri-etor is by sponsoring more business-oriented work-shops and classes, providing them with some basicbusiness training.

I very much value my membership in the PLSC. Ithas been very beneficial to me professionally and per-sonally. I would encourage all licensed surveyors tobecome members and reap the benefits.

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The PLSC Board of Directors has been reviewingthe current methods of communication that we have indistributing and\or soliciting input from our membership.Over the last several years membership has declinedand fewer members have been involved in the formationof policy and direction of the PLSC including legislation.The PLSC would like to inquire with the membershipregarding the best methods for communicating in atimely manner in order to have input from the con-stituency and not have the decisions of the Coloradosurveying community rest only on a small number ofmembers.

Several communication methods are identifiedbelow that we would like to have input from membershipregarding their use and ease of providing input into thePLSC leadership:

PLSC Website (www.plsc.net): There is now anew website for the PLSC membership!! The websitewent active in March 2013 and while we are still workingout all of the kinks, it should prove itself to be animproved and friendlier version. As part of the websitewe have a page for communicating any feedback to theorganization (“contact us” tab). Further refinements willdepend on such feedback from the PLSC membership.The website allows an immediate input from member-ship with emails being read daily by PLSC staff (atplsc@plsc.net).

Questionnaires: At the Rocky Mountain SurveyorsSummit held in March 2013, a questionnaire was devel-oped and distributed in the binder provided to all atten-dees. The questionnaire was created to solicit specificresponses from each recipient regarding issues with thePLSC, and the PLSC’s coordination with chapters, etc.While the responses from the attendees were not over-whelming in number (18 of the 200 attendees) theyhave provided good input to the society. We plan oncontinuing with this effort at the annual conference andperhaps repeat the questionnaire and create additionalquestionnaires to be distributed through email and\orsurveymonkey.com or a similar polling device. Wouldthis type of solicitation for member input be used by themembership?

SurveyMonkey.com or similar interface: Thistype of personnel survey can be implemented for use bythe membership as well. We can create a very broadlevel of questions to respond to or make it very specificin composition. The questionnaires developed throughthe year could also be distributed electronically in thismanner. Advantages of this type of communication arethat it would be timelier with a posted duration of time torespond to the solicitation. Results of the survey could

be provided to the PLSC BOD prior to its respectiveboard meetings. Would membership be more availableto respond to a five minute survey monkey solicitation?

Side Shots: Our quarterly magazine has alwaysprovided a means of communication of BOD meetingminutes, financial status, chapter news, etc. The con-cern using this as a main source of communication withthe membership is the time delay from reporting of theactivity or news and the delivery of the respective issue.There will always be some delay in the reporting of theinformation. The magazine will continue to be a valu-able form of communication with the membership. Arethere any suggestions for modifications or additions tothe content of the magazine? I continue to hear onlypositive input from readers of the magazine.

Annual conference: The PLSC has an annualconference typically held in the first quarter of eachyear. This venue provides an opportunity for member-ship to meet with PLSC BOD membership (the majorityof BOD members are typically present at the confer-ence) and to network with other PLSC chapter leadersat the conference. Each conference will include anannual meeting of the membership where items requir-ing the vote of the membership are performed. In addi-tion, a Chapter Summit is held the first evening of theconference and it is specifically meant for the directcommunication of any issues, items of concern, input ondirection, etc. related to the PLSC as a whole. If youare unable to attend the conference and\or ChapterSummit you are encouraged to contact any PLSC BODmember or chapter representative who will be attendingin order to have your input provided in the discussions.Any other suggestions for handling membership input atthe annual conference would be greatly appreciated!

Local chapter meetings: The PLSC has sevenchapters geographically located throughout Colorado.Each chapter has its own BOD and meets regularlythroughout the year. A portion of the PLSC dues arepassed through to the chapters in order for them tohave operating funds for their use related to chapterneeds (BOD meetings, general meetings, chapter proj-ects, publications, etc.). This venue provides a greatopportunity for chapter membership to get their inputheard. Each chapter currently has representation onthe PLSC board as well as each chapter president ordesignated representative is invited to participate in thePLSC BOD meetings in order to assure input from eachchapter is heard at the PLSC BOD level. If for somereason you are not getting reminders of chapter meet-ings please contact your chapter leadership to get onthe meeting distribution list. At each chapter meetingthere should be an agenda item for news from the

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PLSC that will have been summarized by the chapterrepresentative who attended the PLSC BOD meeting ormay have had other communication with PLSC BODmembers. This is by far the best opportunity to provideyour input and discussions with your chapter member-ship—you are encouraged to take advantage of thisopportunity.

PLSC BOD teleconference meetings: The PLSCBOD meetings are generally every other month through-out the year, and the BOD communicates on issuesrequiring more immediate action by email. The meet-ings are currently teleconferenced (the board is lookinginto alternatives to teleconferencing such as GoToMeet-ing, etc.). There are PLSC BOD members who arechapter members who should be actively participatingwith the chapters’ own BOD meetings in order to passalong input from the chapters at the meetings. All chap-ters have a PLSC BOD member or an ex-officio positionon the PLSC Board (typically the president or designat-ed person). In this manner, the PSLC leadership hascontact with all of the chapters who are representing allof the state membership at each meeting. If you believethat your chapter is not being heard at the state level,please contact your local chapter leadership. In addi-tion, some of the PLSC BOD members are attendingchapter meetings throughout the state. The PLSC BODasks that the PLSC BOD members be placed on thedistribution list for chapter meetings as scheduled chap-

ter meetings and locations have been known to bemoved on occasion. We can plan to attend if we aremade aware of an upcoming meeting!

These are some of the avenues available for com-municating with the membership. What will work foryou, the member? Are there any other suggestedavenues of communication that have not been identifiedabove that we can potentially utilize? The PLSC seeksmembership involvement as a whole—please participatein some way to get the most value out of your member-ship. The PLSC exists to serve the Colorado surveyingcommunity—please join in the opportunity to improveour profession through education, outreach and commu-nication.

Please contact Todd Beers (PLSC Director) attbeers@deainc.com, 720-225-4646 or Becky Roland(PLSC Executive Director) at broland@plsc.net, 303-551-3266 with suggestion to further the PLSC’s commu-nication with our membership.

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6.5.5.1 Plats to be Deposited. All plats required tobe prepared pursuant to Section 38-51-107, C.R.S.,shall be deposited with the county in which said surveywas performed and a copy of the plat shall be deliveredto the client. In addition to the requirements set forth inSection 38-51-107, C.R.S., a plat must also be preparedand deposited for any monument found substantially atvariance (according to Rule 6.5.6), with dimensionsshown on deposited or filed plats or if the monumentresults in conflicting boundary evidence which has notpreviously been shown on a plat deposited or filed inaccordance with Section 38-51-107(1), C.R.S. Said platshall comply with all applicable provisions of Sections38-51-107 and 38-50-101 C.R.S. (emphasis added)

I’m going to go out on a limb here and guess thatmost of the Professional Land Surveyors (PLS’s) in Col-orado know that they have to prepare and deposit platsin their county as described in the first sentence of thisrule. Like other situations I’ve written about however, itconcerns me that many PLS’s may not read beyond thefirst sentence of the rule. There’s a whole lot of meatafter that first sentence.

I’m going to go out on another limb and guess thatmost PLS’s are aware of the “20 year rule”, which isactually Statute 38-51-107(2), C.R.S. “No plat shall berequired to be prepared or deposited if the monumentsaccepted or set are within a platted subdivision that wasfiled in the clerk and recorder’s office within the previoustwenty years.” This statute replaced an older version afew years ago that we all remember and that stated “NoPlat shall be required to be prepared if the monumentsaccepted or set are within a platted subdivision whichwas filed after July 1, 1975.” Personally, I think it’s agood idea to have the rolling 20 year rule rather thanthe fixed date. Otherwise, 50 years from now theremight not be any plats being deposited at all. Thatwould of course be wrong, but that’s a topic for anotherdiscussion.

Like I said, most of us know the 20 year rule andrely on it too, but the 20 year rule is an option of course.You can deposit a plat anytime you choose even though38-51-107(2) allows you to opt out in some, but not all,cases. But remember that extra meat in Rule 6.5.5.1 I

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mentioned before? Those are some additional require-ments that remove that option from the 20 year rule. Inother words, just because you’re working in a plattedsubdivision that was filed within the past 20 years does-n’t automatically mean that you don’t have to file a plat.Rule 6.5.5.1 gives us two situations in which we arerequired to deposit a plat, even if we're working in avery recent subdivision and states so directly regardlessof the “20 year rule”, Statute 38-51-107(2).

The first situation is “for any monument found sub-stantially at variance (according to Rule 6.5.6).” Rule6.5.6 allows us to use our “professional expertise andjudgment” in determining if a monument is substantiallyat variance but also requires us to “meet or exceed theminimum standard of care”. The first aspect of this situ-ation that bears some scrutiny is that we fall under thisrequirement if ANY MONUMENT FOUND is substantial-ly at variance, not just the monuments defining the lotwe are surveying. Assuming we’re surveying just onelot in one block in a recently platted subdivision, we arelikely, and I would go further to say hopefully, going tolocate a substantial number of monuments outside ofour lot in that block and perhaps even some beyond thelimitations of the block. So if any one of those is sub-stantially at variance, we must deposit a plat.

The second aspect of this situation that bears somescrutiny is the definition of “substantially at variance”,which is not specifically defined by Statute or BoardRule. We can argue and discuss error ellipses, preci-sion, significant digits, and other mathematical defini-

tions of variance, but to me there’s one easy way to seeit without question. If you locate a monument that youchoose not to accept for any reason, then that monu-ment would likely be considered “substantially at vari-ance”. There may be additional situations in which amonument can be termed “substantially at variance”,but if you choose not to accept it, then in my opinion itmust be “substantially at variance”, otherwise you'dhave obviously accepted it. Conversely, if you doaccept a monument in its current location, then obvious-ly in your “professional expertise and judgment” it is not“substantially at variance”. Some other PLS mightargue differently, but by accepting it you are obviouslyarguing in favor of that monument being accurate.

The second situation in which we are required todeposit a plat even in a recent subdivision is underlinedfor emphasis above and deals with “conflicting boundaryevidence.” Again, imagine yourself surveying that lot. Ifyou choose not to accept a monument, that would,IMHO, mean that the unaccepted monument is conflict-ing boundary evidence. If you find a pincushion at anylocation, then you obviously have conflicting boundaryevidence because they can’t all be correct. If you set apincushion in any location…well, there have been bookswritten about that. Let’s leave that one alone. There’salready steam venting from my ears just thinking aboutit. But don’t forget that conflicting boundary evidencecan be many more things than monumentation found orset. Fences and other improvements can representconflicting boundary evidence for example. A statementby the property owner or adjoiner (Parol Evidence) mayrepresent conflicting boundary evidence. One of thereasons we’re considered professionals is because wemake these kinds of judgments. So if you set a monu-ment in a recent subdivision thinking that you don't haveto deposit a plat, before you walk away, look around. Ifthe fence lines don't agree with your location, or ifthere's other evidence that doesn't comply with yourlocation, you must deposit a plat unless, as is stated,that evidence is already shown on a previously deposit-ed plat.

The list of possibilities that represent conflictingboundary evidence is, of course, infinite. But the overallidea remains the same. Don’t blindly assume that justbecause you’re working in a subdivision that was plat-ted less than 20 years ago, that you automatically don’thave to deposit a plat. I would feel awfully embar-rassed to find myself in court, because of a monumentwith my LS# on it, for which I did not deposit a plat, butwhich either caused, or contributed to a lawsuit betweenneighbors, perhaps because it didn't agree with theirfences, and which showed up on two other surveyors’plats working for those two parties in the law suit. Howare you going to explain that to the judge?

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is planning various CBL activities in June 2013.Currently we are looking at holding a “Users”workshop along with re-measuring the DurangoCBL the week of June 10th and a “Users” Work-shop along with re-measuring the Highline CBLthe week of June 17th. A team was formed(Shawn Clarke, Roger Kelley, Scott Kimminau,Kevin Kucharczyk, David Kuxhausen, Chris Raml,JJ Rihanek , Jack Sparks, Dave Stewart) and theyare exploring a site for another CBL in the DenverMetro area. If that all comes together we will lookto install the new CBL June 20-21.

Please contact Pam Fromhertz,Pamela.fromhertz@noaa.gov, 303-202-4580, orthe PLSC website for more details, plsc.net.

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How long is a cubit? This was the primary standardof length in ancient Egypt and became the basis formost of the length, area, volume, and weight measure-ments in the Western world. In its long usage, based onastronomical observations and measurements on theearth’s surface, it was similar to the present day metre(intended as one ten millionth of the arc of longitudethrough Paris from the Pole to the Equator, measuredfrom Dunkirk to Barcelona. See Control Points No. 10).In the book, Secrets of the Great Pyramid, by PeterTompkins, there is a very lengthy appendix entitled,“Notes on the Relation of Ancient Measures to the GreatPyramid,” by Livio Catullo Stecchini, a specialist inancient measurements. Stecchini goes into exhaustivedetail about the deviation of the unit of length from themeasurements in Egypt. The north-south longitudinalaxis of Egypt is at 31°14'E from Greenwich (They proba-bly called it zero longitude in the original Egyptian sys-tem because Greenwich, England didn’t exist for thou-sands of years yet!).

The north-south length of Egypt was measured at7°30' to the north. This ratio is then 4/5 to 1/5 for Upperand Lower Egypt. The total number for 7°30' was1,800,000 geographic cubits. There were 400 cubits toa stadium and 600 stadia to a degree. Millennia later,Isaac Newton had to delay publication of his Mathemati-ca Principia to figure out the size of the earth for his the-ory of gravitation because he didn’t know the length ofthe ancient cubit.

A complicating factor was when Lower Egypt andUpper Egypt were united in the First Dynasty, the priestsrecomputed the length of the geographic cubit andadded 1/7 to make it the royal cubit (an even 1,500,000cubits from latitude 24°06'N to 31°06'N). The number 7then became important in their newer geodetic system.

A difficulty that the ancient mathematicians had wasin calculating irrational numbers that didn’t come out

even, such as π (Pi) where they used the approximation22/7. They also used the 80 to 81 ratio in severalplaces.

One critical relation that even the French developersof the Metric System had trouble with, and was the rea-son Thomas Jefferson (even though he wanted a deci-mal system of weights and measures) shot it downexcept for the currency, was time versus distance. TheEgyptians had solved that problem that 1,000 geograph-ic cubits equaled one second of time of rotation of theearth.

With all of Stecchini’s comparisons and computa-tions of ancient units and where they come from, hefinally comes up with the value of 450 millimetres for theregular cubit and 525 millimetresfor the royal cubit, butthen shows where the three variations of the royal cubitcome from — there are 524.1483 millimetres, 525.0000millimetres, and 526.3231 millimetres respectively. Thefirst is the scientific unit of Egypt and was used in theconstruction of the Great Pyramid. The second is 7/6 ofthe regular cubit of 450 millimetres, commonly usedthroughout Egypt and the standard for the Second Pyra-mid. The third royal cubit was related to volume andweight measurements and was the standard for the cof-fers of the Great and Second Pyramids. (I have person-ally seen the coffer in the Great Pyramid and it is animmense, hollowed-out granite block).

With all of Stecchini’s theoretical calculations of thelengths of the 4 different new cubits, his prediction ofthe circumference of the base of the Great Pyramid is921,452.72 millimetres. This compares with a veryaccurate survey by the professional surveyor, Cole,working from the ancient builders’ scribe marks of921,453 millimetres (that’s over 3,023 feet!). You tell methe ancient Egyptian surveyors weren’t accurate?

Control Points – Number 20By Warren Andrews, PLS

The Cubit

An inscripted Egyptian cubit bar. From the Liverpool World Museum; photo, Dave Lightbody.

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Mr. John B. Guyton, EditorSide Shots3825 Iris AvenueBoulder, Colorado 80301

Dear Mr. Guyton,APR 11 2013

This letter is to inform you of the location of official plats and field notes from the surveys of the General Land Office and Bureau of LandManagement. You may circulate this letter among the membership of the Professional Land Surveyors of Colorado. All rectangular and miner-al survey plats and field notes can be found in the BLM Public Room located at 2850 Youngfield Street, Lakewood, Colorado, 80215.\ We arein the process of scanning all survey plats and field notes and making them available online. With some exceptions, images of all mineral andrectangular plats can be found at http://www.glorecords.blm.gov. New surveys (plats and field notes) can be found at this address within 90days of official filing in the BLM Public Room. Mineral and rectangular field notes have, with few exceptions, been scanned. However, only afraction of them are available online. Rectangular field notes from 1999 to the present can be generally found online. Mineral survey notes arenot yet available online. We expect that in several years, funding permitting, all records will be available online. The table below summarizesthe status and location of these records.

The primary contacts for official plats and field notes is Merica Block, Lead Contact Representative, Colorado State Office, 2850 YoungtleldStreet, Lakewood Colorado, 80215, Phone: 303-239-3600, e-mail: mblock@blm.gov. Also available to assist in records research is RandyBloom, Cadastral Survey Branch Chief, Phone: 303-239-3856, e-mail: rbloom@blm.gov.

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Last year the PLSC was chal-lenged by the membership toenhance the PLSC website. Ourmembers wanted the website tohave a “modern” feel and function-ality and to present content thatwould add value to the membershipand draw others to the site as well.The PLSC accepted the challengeand charged Brian Dennis (websitecommittee chair) and Becky Roland(Executive Director) with this effort.

The website is still under con-struction due to an earlier thananticipated release date but alreadythe site is demonstrating significantchanges.

Current changes to the websiteinclude the addition of the new cal-endar and contact information forthe PLSC Board of Directors andLegislative Committee members.We have also changed the formatto lessen the drill down effect andmake the information easier andfaster to get to. We understand yourtime is valuable and you should beable to get in, see what you needand be able to move on to otheritems in a timely manner. We havebeen focused on this goal as weadd content and features.

The “Calendar” is our solutionto an old dilemma. The questionshave always been the same whichare: what date is a chapter meetingon? When is the PLSC confer-ence? What date is a specific eventeither PLSC or chapter or otherorganization? What are the dates ofthe manufacturer’s events such asTrimble Dimensions or Lieca’s Con-ferences? There was no place to goto locally to get these answers easi-ly without numerous calls or emailstrying to find a person that wasgoing to that event or meeting too.The calendar is designed to resolvethis by having these dates in a cen-tral location for all to see at aglance. We placed this on the homepage for quick, easy access so youcan plan which meetings or eventsyou want to attend or participate in,in advance. We are in the processof making the calendar editable bya representative of each chapter.

This will allow each chapter to gointo the calendar and put in theirmeeting and event dates, includingif it is a board meeting or generalmembership meeting. Until we havethe access to the chapters fullyimplemented, please send yourinformation to plsc@plsc.net andBecky or I will input them into thecalendar for you. Please providethe name of the activity, date, placeand chapter.

There are many ideas we arecurrently working on to add value tothe content that is coming soon andincludes:

Chapter News and PLSCNews to provide each chapter aplace to state any recent news theywant to share with the membership.This will not replace the ChapterNews section in Side Shots but willinstead be an supplement and sup-port to Side Shots, which is pub-lished quarterly. A good use of thissection might be for chapter boardsto solicit for open positions duringelections or for unexpected vacan-cies. In addition, chapters can postexciting or interesting news about a

member of their chapter or event.For those chapters that have activewebsites, we can place a short“teaser” sentence or more with alink to your website for the full newsfeature. The PLSC News will be avehicle to promote the annual con-ference and post the current activi-ties of the legislative committee.This would include bills that areintroduced by other organizationsthat may impact us indirectly andlanguage and items that the com-mittee is working on to directlyimpact Colorado surveyors. Per-haps a news feed to DORA is apossibility that we can add in thefuture.

Market News to provide themembers with information on Col-orado news regarding housing orland development, commercial con-struction and transactions and oiland gas or other interesting mar-kets that may provide relevant infor-mation to help your business formarketing targets and planning.This would be done by publishingshort paragraphs of each news feedand a link to the site with the full

The New PLSC Website Has Arrived!By Brian Dennis, PLS

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article. Now you can quickly browsethe news and pick the articles thatare interesting to you instead ofhaving to read through them all infull length to find what is importantto you. This is being currently dis-cussed to be a “Member’s Only”section of the website for PLSCpaying members, providing youinformation that is consolidated inone place that is not open to thepublic.

Industry News is for Land Sur-veying, GPS and GIS in general ata local and national level. Perhapsfeeds to NGS, WSPS, NSPS, BLM,FEMA, Trimble, Leica, Topcon andother industry related businesses ororganizations to keep you up todate with what is going on in theworld that may impact you, includ-ing national legislative news.Remember the “Light Squared”event regarding potential GPSimpacts? This would be the sectionto have that kind of news and infor-mation posted.

Education Opportunities list-ed, including the PLSC scholarshiplistings and college survey pro-grams nationally with a listing of on-

line availabilities. I believe if we aregoing to have these great opportu-nities for financial assistance at thecollege level, we need to make theopportunities available for all to seeand contact information for theinterested party to know how tomove forward and take advantageof these programs.

Member Spotlight is an excit-ing new addition to the website.This is intended for anyone whobelieves a particular member of thePLSC needs to be seen and recog-nized for a recent or lifelong accom-plishment. It is time the PLSC had aplace where the members canacknowledge one another outsideof chapter meetings, and we havecreated that place. If you have amember of your chapter that youwant to have recognized, then sendus a photo and a paragraph or twodescribing why you want this per-son “spotlighted” or a bio of the per-son to highlight their commitment tothe profession.

PLSC Sponsors are now beingshown and listed on the website. Atthe bottom of the website home-page, you can now see who the

PLSC sponsors are. This is a greatopportunity to have your companypromoted and seen as a sponsor ofthe profession and the organization.We have always been thankful toour sponsors for their dedicatedsupport and we are excited to havetheir logo and company names aspart of the website to acknowledgethat support.

There are many other ideasthat are being discussed and othersthat we are determining how to exe-cute, to continue to add value to thewebsite. We are investigating howto make many of the news feeds,discussed above, automatic to keepthe site current, always changingand fresh.

The PLSC membership askedfor changes to the website and Ibelieve we are delivering thosechanges. We still need input fromthe membership for content ideasand formatting ideas. We need toknow your likes and dislikes andhow we can make it better. This isyour website and your opinions arevalued. Surveyors are never shorton opinions, so don’t come up shortnow!

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Senate Bill 13-161 continues to move through thelegislature. This is the bill that would reauthorize theDepartment of Regulatory Agencies (DORA) to continueto regulate the professions of Engineering, Land Sur-veying and Architecture when the current laws face sun-set. “In public policy, a sunset provision or clause is ameasure within a statute, regulation or other law thatprovides that the law shall cease to have effect after aspecific date, unless further legislative action is taken toextend the law. Most laws do not have sunset clausesand therefore remain in force indefinitely.” (Wikipedia).

The process began last spring when DORAassigned an analyst to review the current regulationsand laws. Your PLSC aligned with professional organi-zations of engineers and architects to find common con-cerns about the impending sunset of the laws regulatingour professions. Roger Nelson and others met withthese groups regularly. We also met with the DORAanalyst and DORA administrators to provide the PLSCpositions going forward with the legislation. The PLSCBoard of Directors (BOD) decided not to present any

major changes to the legislation and to protect the lawsand regulations as they currently exist from unfavorablechanges.

The comment period ended in June while the ana-lyst wrote his report to the legislature. The report wascompleted in October. There were 14 recommenda-tions put forth by the DORA analyst in the report. Ofthose recommendations, the PLSC BOD (and the pro-fessional organizations representing engineers) decidedto officially oppose the one which would have allowedland surveyors and engineers licensed in other states tooffer to practice in Colorado. This provision wasremoved from the bill after testimony from PresidentNelson to the subcommittee on Business, Labor, &Technology. It has passed the full senate without theprovision for “fishing” in Colorado.

The bill was introduced in the house and assignedto Business, Labor, Economic, & Workforce Develop-ment. The bill was debated and President Nelson onceagain testified as to the support from the PLSC mem-

Update from the Legislative CommitteeAlan D Blair, Chair, PLSC Legislative Committee

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bership. It was passed out of com-mittee without amendments and willgo to the full house for a vote and isexpected to pass without change.

Summarized History for BillNumber SB13-161

(The date the bill passed to thecommittee of the whole reflects thedate the bill passed out of commit-tee.)

02/04/2013: Introduced In Sen-ate - Assigned to Business, Labor,& Technology.

03/06/2013: Senate Committeeon Business, Labor, & TechnologyRefer Amended to Senate Commit-tee of the Whole.

03/12/2013: Senate SecondReading Passed with Amendments

03/13/2013: Senate ThirdReading Passed.

03/14/2013: Introduced InHouse - Assigned to Business,Labor, Economic, & WorkforceDevelopment.

03/28/2013: House Committeeon Business, Labor, Economic, &Workforce Development Refer Una-mended to Appropriations.

This should wrap up the legisla-tive committee’s work on Sunsetwith maintaining the status quo.The full text of the bill can be foundon the Colorado General Assemblyweb site: www.leg.state.co.us . Theoriginal recommendations fromDORA can be found on their website. Or, Email me ataland207@gmail.com and I cansend it to you.

The next mission for the legisla-tive committee will be assigned bythe PLSC BOD. There was a spirit-ed discussion of issues and somegood recommendations from thepanel and audience revolvingaround Improvement Location Cer-tificates at the PLSC 4th AnnualRocky Mountain Surveyors Summit.The committee has been chargedwith proposing changes to the legis-lation in the next session to addresssome of the problems that wereidentified. The committee hasbegun reaching out to users of ILCsto find solutions that will work foreveryone.

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PLSC Chapter SummitFebruary 28, 2013, 7:00 P.M. • Arvada Center for the Arts and Humanities

In attendance/signed in:

Roger Nelson (President, PLSC); Becky Roland(Executive Director); John B. Guyton (Moderator); ChrisPower (minutes); Steve Parker, SC, VP; Joseph Alessi,SC President; Daniel Hanten, SC Treasurer; Peter T.Krick, WCLS, PLSC Director; Patrick Green, WCLS,PLSC Director; Jonathan Kobylarz, WCLS, VP; RichardBullen, WCLS President; David Kuxhausen, CCPS, VP;Chris Raml, CCPS President; Eric Carson, CSRN, VP;James Rihanek, CCPS, Director; John Wilhelm, CCPS,Director; Shawn Clarke, CCPS, Director; Robert Hintz,NC; Laine Landau, NC, VP; Todd Beers, PLSC Director;

At side tables/not signed in:

Lynn Patten, Terrametra Resources; Pete ?; MarcusReedy; Bryan Dennis; Paul Bacus; Warren Ward; JerryBrenan, from Alaska

Agenda Topics:1. For chapter representatives, is there anything still

wrong with the PLSC parent organization and if so, howdo we fix it?

2. Legislative advocacy, i.e. Sunset Review – arechapters supportive of this?

3. Education – status of remaining academic sur-veying programs.

4. How can communications be improved? (Presi-dent Roger Nelson visited each chapter in 2012);

5. Consolidation of scholarships (new form hasbeen completed);

6. Consolidation of website resources (PLSC.net isbeing redesigned);

7. Financial issues, complaints; 8. Are by-laws current or are changes needed? 9. Chapter membership drive/contest to increase

PLSC membership (CCPS initiated membership drive).

Minutes:Roger (Nelson): Introduction and welcome

remarks.JB (Guyton): Purpose of Chapter Summit is to

remain in synch with all of the chapters; some progresswas made last year. The Chapter Summit evolvedbecause there used to be location and demographic dif-ferences across the state. It is intended to help provideone unified voice to advance our interests.

Roger: As a recap, the filming of the refreshercourse discussed last year is being done, will be on avariety of digital media made available to all of theremote chapters. Scholarship application form generictemplate has been updated, available to the chaptersfor modification. To improve communications, all chap-ters are now included on email notices. I was able topersonally visit all of the chapters during my first twoyears as President. Website updating is in progress,should go live this week.

Robert Hintz: Was input solicited for websitedesign?

Roger: A committee looked at it, provided input.This approach saved time, to allow faster progress. Willcollect ideas to build upon it.

Becky (Roland): Website allows for much flexibility.Chapters can have their own page, customized for theirneeds.

Roger: Back to JB for the agenda.JB: I would like to introduce Warren Ward to talk

about NSPS.Warren Ward: I like to attend each year to provide

an NSPS report; I was blocked by an avalanche onBerthod Pass, but was in time for the ILC Symposium.The National Society of Professional Surveyors used tobe affiliated with the American Congress of Surveying &Mapping (ACSM) years ago, now it is only the NSPS.The group is not affiliated with GPS people, only sur-veyors. Thirteen years ago they tried to get state mem-bers involved in the NSPS; if you are a member of astate society in Maine or Alaska, you are also automati-cally a member of the NSPS. If a state joins, it gets aseat on the Board of Directors. I am on two commit-tees, attends board meetings on behalf of the PLSC.

By attending without state membership, we havesome influence but no vote. We also do not pay dues.18 states are “all in,” Kentucky being the latest. 30 areexpected next year. It costs $40 more per member to joinNSPS. Membership is now in the thousands and grow-ing. What do they do? Every member benefits from theirwork. The NSPS was influential in lobbying to preventLightSquared from interfering with equipment signals.They are involved in TrigStar, a program that is in 24 Col-orado schools. The schools need a national sponsor. Aformal testing system, the Certified Survey Technician pro-gram, is administered by the NSPS. They could developa formal mentoring program also. I did an informationaldisplay for NSPS at the Four Corners Monument; theyprovided $40,000 in immediate, needed funding. It is upto the members of a state society like PLSC to participatein an all-in program. A majority vote of the members pres-ent at the annual meeting would make it happen.

JB: In order to get this information to the full mem-bership, your remarks will be published in Side Shots.

Roger: We might also fund Warren to travel to thechapters also.

JB: Now on to the first agenda topic. Is anythingbeing done by the mother ship sticking in your craws?

Laine (Landau): I agree that we have madeprogress, but decisions still seem to be made by a smallgroup. Todd and Roger have both come up to theNorthern Chapter, which made a big difference. That ismoving in the right direction, but more is needed.Demographics – a survey of constituents would be use-ful. Attending a conference like this is too expensive forsole practitioners, not just the cost but the time require-ments. Website needs some control at the local chap-ter level.

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Bryan Dennis: The website will be integrated withlinks, not yet complete. I can foresee expanding thewebsite as membership grows, can consolidate webresources. The CSRN and the Northern Chapter sitesare the only functioning ones right now.

Rob Hintz: There will be a place at the table if theywant it.

Eric Carson: I would like to see a consolidation ofresources on the web page, which would bring costsdown, make it available to all chapters. Video confer-encing would also bring people together more easily,their time is scarce. Video is inexpensive, compared tothe teleconferencing service being used.

Chris Raml: Regarding CCPS, we are linked to thesite now, but they have put cost up front, $40/year, andare controlling the site now.

Bryan Dennis: There are two ways to consolidate:1) PLSC hosts content, and 2) each has a page. Have15 pages now, 30 is the limit. CSRN is 15 web pagesalready, so there are limitations to expanding.

JB: Getting information to webmaster in time forbetter turnout to meetings is an issue. Let’s move on.

David Kuxhausen: I’ve had complaints about theSunmmit conference registration process. Some havepaid the membership fee already and received no dis-count for adding a membership. Starting the websiteredesign just prior to this conference was a poor decision.

Roger: The lesson on that point was learned.Laine: If meeting minutes were more detailed, it

would help in better feeling what the issues are, andunderstanding decisions being made. Only the basicsof the topics and the votes are shown.

Roger: We are trying to adhere to Robert’s Rulesof Order. People can phone in and listen, and partici-pate if you like. They can’t vote though, unless they areex-officio chapter directors. That person should be theone responsible for getting meeting details back to thechapter members.

Eric Carson: That’s why videoconferencing is sovaluable, you can see faces! A call in line for a chapterconference call is currently very expensive.

Patrick Green: As chapters, we do need board peo-ple to bring information back to us, a system that workswell. A summary in Side Shots is good, but a reportfrom a person is better, more detailed.

Bryan Clark: As to Eric’s idea, this was talkedabout last year, costs were sent out, and the idea died.

Roger: I didn’t advance it or move it forward. Ineed someone on the board to be a champion of thatcause, to move it along and get it done.

Becky: I have used GoToMeeting for videoconfer-encing. I can set it up, it works well. There is somefeedback on cell phones, so a monitor is needed.

Todd Beers: I will take that on. Joe Alessi: There has been confusion about chapter

cooperation for the Summit conference, now that thereare no longer local workshops, especially over finances.

Daniel Horton: Deposits of funds have been sentdirectly to the bank, cannot tell the details of what it isfor. What is the formula for dividing revenues?

Becky: We are doing checks now, no longer doingbank transfers.

Roger: The operating budget for chapters is nowrolled up into the PLSC budget, we are close to

breakeven after those distributions. There is no exactformula. I have been approached about doing a per-centage distribution. The Summit is a huge source ofPLSC operating revenue that’s needed to operate.Basing distributions on the number of attendees fromeach chapter has been considered. Unsure of what theideal system should be.

Todd Beers: An agreement on distribution wasmade. There have been two distributions.

Eric Carson: CSRN put in budget last year, didn’tspend, never received distribution from the Summit.Net zero. Combined workshops, the effort was put in,but no distribution back.

Todd Beers: It was an oversight. If budget submit-ted, distribution should have occurred. It is driven bywhether the PLSC budget had money to distribute. Weneed to communicate.

Roger: Should have received half of distribution.Will follow up.

JB: Let’s keep some perspective; combining thechapter workshops was a big success. Let’s move onto#2, Sunset Review.

Roger: A draft bill came out. At first reading thechair heard no testimony from the public. Draft bill thencame out, included out of state “fishing” by surveyorsnot licensed in Colorado. We worked with our lobbyistto have that removed. March 6th is the next hearing.We will testify in support of the amended bill. Alan Blairis getting up to speak as Chair of the Legislative Com-mittee. Each chapter needs a representative on it. Ibelieve the Southwest chapter was lacking someone.

Laineu: Fishing issue made us aware that we are a3-industry group under regulation, and we are the small-est part. Surveyors are easier to dismiss, our voicesless heard.

JB: Onto #3, Education. Lynn Patten is here tospeak. He has a masters in mathematics, and is a veryeffective teacher. Lynn is currently one of the bestsources of local education.

Lynn Patten: The Metro State program is dying.Westwood College graduated the last three students inOctober. Westwood might restart as a night program. Iteach math at Front Range Community College butwant to support the efforts of the PLSC, to fill the void. Ibegan Terrametra Resources, dedicated to earth meas-urement from the ground up. The basics are taught.There are 3 math review courses, 5 math courses fromthe Westwood curriculum, modified. There are 3 spe-cial topics in development. I would like to link with thePLSC website. I need help from the Education Commit-tee to get accreditation for professional development.

JB: Please understand that Terranova is onlinelearning only.

Lynn Patten: It is a document format, 80% quizzesand 20% final exam, for a certificate of completion.Quizzes are emailed back. Need accreditation so thestate would recognize it as a refresher course.

Roger: In the few states I am licensed in, if CEU’sare required the board must review and approve con-tent. Colorado has no CEU requirement.

JB: Lynn has a great syllabus that was previouslyused in his 2-year surveying program.

Eric Carson: Courses are great, but many survey-ors aren’t interested until they get more into the profes-

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sion. Too many consider surveying a trade.JB: #4 on agenda already covered.Laine: Kayce says we should have a huge “every-

body” meeting, not just one for conference registrants atthe annual meeting.

Roger: We can open up the annual meeting forfree over lunch.

JB: #5, Scholarships.Laine: It would have been helpful to see the form.Roger: The form is a template only, for each chap-

ter to customize. We floated a suggestion from RandyBloom at the BLM to make scholarships available forthe CFedS training. There will be one awarded thisyear, details to follow, open only to PLSC members.Not yet sure of the selection process to be used.

David Kuxhausen: CCPS is also considering this,as we have had no response to the scholarship applica-tion. We want to open up education to anyone.

JB: Agenda #6 and #7 are also done.Roger: It’s too late to change the distribution formu-

la now, but don’t wait until next year to suggestchanges, we must start early.

Todd Beers: We are starting in March for 2014.JB: #8, By-LawsRoger: There was a vote to change CSRN By-laws

at the meeting yesterday. Can add two more non-PLSCmembers to your board, and they will not pay dues.

JB: Everyone in this room needs to be an emissaryand an ambassador for the PLSC. Membership can beunaffordable, and we are sympathetic. What the PLSCboard and chapters are doing is admirable. Increasingthe number of dues paying members is necessary.

Laine: What tools can we get? Membership lists,lists of all licensed surveyors?

Roger: Free lists are available from DORA, thesewere already sent to every chapter president as anExcel spreadsheet.

JB: We are close to our time to end…Roger: Closing remarks. There is a systematic

problem with organizations using volunteers. Ideas areeasy, turning those into action is hard work. I getsilence when I ask for someone to stand up and volun-teer. The same 10% of the members are active everytime. Who is the next 10% going to be? Need to say, “Iwill own that. I will make sure it gets done.”

Steve Parker: Wants to pitch to others, where isthe value? Is this printed?

JB: Yes – see the Todd Beers article in Side Shots.Roger: Mention legislative initiative, such as fish-

ing, etc.Laine: Must also create value. Our last meeting

(Northern Chapter) was 30 people. Give presentationson topics that people want to see.

JB: Needs to inspire people, to get bitten by the bug.Roger: We will be honoring our long-standing

members tomorrow with lapel pins. Part of the “Closingthe Horizon” theme of this Summit.

JB: This concludes the Chapter Summit. To allhere in attendance, and anyone reading minutes of thismeeting in Side Shots, please provide me with sugges-tions for new agenda items for a 2014 Chapter Summit,should there be one. Thank you all for your participa-tion and input.

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CCPS Thanks to all who made the 3rd

Annual Surveyors Summit a suc-cess. There were many local andnationally known speakers whorounded out three days of seminartracts loaded with great topics.When not in a presentation youwere shown the latest in technologyand services offered by the PLSC’ssustaining members and/or ven-dors. The CCPS iPad raffle was asuccess and we hope the winner isenjoying his new toy. It was greatto see all of you there!

Our special project for 2013 isto construct a new baseline in theDenver Metro area for all membersof the land surveying community toutilize. Finding a suitable location isturning out to be a daunting taskand we could use your help.Please contact Pam Fromhertz, ourColorado NGS advisor, or ShawnClarke if you think you have a loca-tion that would work.

The CCPS hopes to continue tohave just as interesting a list of top-ics and speakers at our generalmembership meetings this year aswe have had this past year. I wantto give thanks to everyone who waswilling to donate their time and givepresentations as one of our guestspeakers or sponsoring vendors.These meetings are put on for thebenefit of our members and wewant to have speakers and topicsthat everyone will enjoy. If youhave a speaker in mind please letme know. These are great venuesto discuss anything regarding theland surveying profession. If youhaven't attended one yet we hopeto see you on Thursday, April 25that the Double Tree in Aurora. Bringa friend.

The 2013 CCPS board of direc-tors consists of: Officers; Christo-pher Raml, President; David Kux-hausen, Vice President; Mark Wil-son, Secretary; Aaron Willis, Trea-surer. The directors are ShawnClarke, George Robinson, John Wil-helm, Terry Pickering, KevinKucharczyk, Ken Baker, and TonyPerazzo. Thanks to all of you whoserve on our board.

Please visit us at www.central-cosurveypro.com for contact infor-

mation, meeting details, and gener-al CCPS news.

Christopher Raml, PLSCCPS President

CSRNThe Colorado Spatial Refer-

ence Network is planning an activeyear with several events planned.The CSRN wants to reach out topeople interested in the GeoSpatialworld and how it is used in theirprofession.

The big news for the CSRN isthe changes to the By-Laws. Someminor wording was changed butone change will affect the directionand future of this organization. TheCSRN By-Law changes were votedon at the PLSC General Meetingheld on March 1, 2013 and the vot-ing members were unanimous intheir acceptance of them. Themajor change concerns the Boardof Directors. Of the five directors,two directors do not have to bemembers of the PLSC. This opensthe board to a more diversifiedgroup to guide the CSRN in thefuture.

The CSRN schedule for thisyear so far is:

April 18th, Thursday, CSRNBoard and General MembershipMeeting to be held at Woody’s Tav-ern, 7095 E Evans Ave, 80224,5:30 to 7:00 P.M. I want to hearfrom CSRN members and discusswhat interests them.

Tentative: May 11th, Saturday,CSRN GPS Day, to be held at UtahPark, Aurora, CO, from 10:00 A.M.to 2:00 P.M . Members are invitedto come to meet, share knowledge,talk about the direction land survey-ing is headed in the future and,enjoy a lemonade & hot dog.

June 20th, Thursday, CSRNBoard and General Membershipmeeting, location and time to bedetermined and open to sugges-tions.

August – September, a Satur-day, location and date to be deter-mined, CSRN & Northern PLSCChapter Picnic and general mem-bership meeting.

September 19th, CSRN Boardand General Membership meeting,

location and time to be determinedand open to suggestions. One ofthe things to be discussed is nomi-nations for CSRN Board Membersin 2014.

November 21, Thursday, CSRNBoard and General MembershipMeeting, location and time to bedetermined and open to sugges-tions. General Elections for theCSRN are October 15th to Novem-ber 5th. Welcome new board mem-bers and plan transition to 2014.

Events / meeting locations andtimes will be emailed out to CSRNmembership and posted on theCSRN website, www.csrn.us.

Jan Sterling, CSRN President

NC-PLSCThe Northern Chapter is now

selling 2013 booklets titled ‘TheSubdivision’. For those of you whohaven’t received yours, please senda check to the Northern Chapter,PO Box 674, Loveland, CO 80539-0674 for $20 and we’ll get a copymailed to you. Northern Chaptermembers should already have theircopies by now. Paul Bacus hasbeen spearheading this endeavorand the surveying community bene-fits from his laborious efforts. Joinme in thanking Paul for his time andpassion for our industry.

The PLSC Summit Conferencewas certainly a success this year.Of the presentations that I personal-ly saw, I took away quite a bit andhave already put that knowledge togood use; money well spent. TheNorthern Chapter had two of itsfinest members recognized with the‘Distinguished Service’ award: PaulBacus and Walter ‘Wally’ Muscott.The Northern Chapter is proud tohave them among us and we’redelighted to see them recognizedformally.

We’re starting a new project for2013-2014. There seems to be aVRS ‘hole’ in the northeast cornerof our state. Our Chapter is interest-ed in working towards getting aCORS station set up in this area.Right now we’re in the discussionphase and trying to find people toaid us in this endeavor and hopeful-

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ly find other entities to help sponsorthis effort. This isn’t something thatis just going to happen overnight soany support you would like to pro-vide, we’ll take it.

In addition to this large project,Northern Chapter is going to hitTrig-Star hard next year. A handfulof surveyors in our area intend onadopting a school and helpingthose kids as a mentor and guide.We’re hopeful that sowing theseseeds will help the youth in ourarea learn more about our industryand show them the importance ofmathematics. If you’re interestedin being involved or sponsoring aschool in our surrounding area,please let us know.

The last official meeting beforeour Chapter’s summer hiatus will beMay 1st. Join us for dinner, apresentation and conversation aswe wrap up this year. Stay tunedfor a summer picnic. Our Chapterintends on having a baseline checkwhere we surveyors can check ourequipment to ensure the accuracyand precision of our equipment.This will be in collaboration with theCSRN and hopefully the Centralchapter. Details will come via emailand through the new website.

Kayce D. Wohlman, PLSNorthern Chapter President

NW 1/4 CLSHello from Northwest Col-

orado… The snow is melting, thebirds are singing, the phones areringing and it is time to get back towork. Oh wait, it’s still snowing!Springtime in the Rockies.

The main bit of news up herecenters on the continuing efforts ofa couple of our chapter members toget a CORS operating in Steam-boat Springs. Walter Magill andTom Effinger have been in the fore-front of those efforts. Together withPamela Fromhertz with NOAA theyhave found a site for the equipmentand have recorded some data thatNGS has found acceptable. Weare keeping our fingers crossed thatthe installation will meet NGS stan-dards once it is finalized. For nowthe station will not be Glonass

capable, and will be broadcastingcorrections by radio from the site.Future improvements may include aradio repeater on top of one of ourlocal mountains and upgrades tothe equipment to enable Glonasscapability.

We hope to have our first chap-ter meeting of the year soon. In themeantime we are all busy gettingour ducks in a row for the summersurvey season.

Jeffry A. Gustafson, PLSSecretary-Treasurer, NW1/4

SCPLSThe March Board of Directors

meeting was held in Pueblo. Spe-cial guests included Todd Beers andBrian Dennis. The meeting wasvery productive as numerous recordkeeping and schedules were devel-oped. The board reviewed our Con-stitution and By Laws. Todd Beersassisted in the development of ourbudget. Numerous financial issueswere discussed including the schol-arship program. The IRS status ofthe Professional Land Surveyorsorganization will determine otheroptions for the use of the scholar-ship funds. Discussions includedscholarship funds for the C Feddesignation.

Steve Parker has developed aWeb page for the Southern Chapterwhich will be linked to the PLSCWeb Page, www.scplsc.net, current-ly under construction. The web sitewill include list of members, calen-dar of events and meetings.

Mark Johannes and SteveParker were appointed as represen-tatives from the Southern Chapterfor the PLSC meetings and activi-ties planning for the annual summit.Steve Parker has been appointedas a liaison between the SCPLSCand PLSC. Brian Dennis updatedthe board on legislative issues. DanHanten was appointed the commit-tee chairman for the Golf Tourna-ment held in August. Nathan Lirawas appointed chairman for theChristmas Party.

Todd Beers provided a list ofcurrent Southern Chapter Membersalong with a list of all Surveyor

Interns and PLS Surveyors locatedin the Southern Chapter area. Theboard will contact these Land Sur-veyors as a membership drive.

Future Membership Meetingswill include: Conceal Carry for LandSurveyors, and The UAV demon-stration at Ft Carson.

Joseph Alessi, PLSPresident, Southern Chapter

SWC-PLSCThe SWPLSC held our most

recent chapter meeting on Tuesday,March 13 in Durango. We dis-cussed the recent installation of aCORS station at the La Plata Coun-ty Airport and the possible additionof RTK/radio capabilities to the sta-tion.

We are still discussing therefresher course and how to getinformation to the west slope. Oneof our members drove (through asnow storm, from Cortez) to theclass only to find it had been can-celled due to the storm.

The annual Four Corners AreaSeminar is scheduled for June 7 &8, 2013 at Fort Lewis College inDurango. We have a good lineupthis year including Dennis Mouland,Milton Denny, Pamela Fromhertzand Alison Walls. Registration willbe available soon at www.plsc.net.

Our next meeting is scheduledfor May 14. We will be hosting War-ren Ward on behalf of the NSPS asour guest speaker. Look for timeand location in the upcoming email.

Joshua J. Casselberry, PLSPresident, SWC-PLSC

WCLSYou are invited to attend the

Western Colorado Land SurveyorsSpring Seminar on Friday, May 17,2013. Mr. David Pehr, Esq. will beour guest speaker. We had thepleasure of having Mr. Pehr as oneof our guest speakers last year andwere so impressed that we decidedto have him back again this year.

Morning session: Civil Liabilityand Surveying;

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Afternoon session: CaseStudies That Have Shaped Bound-ary Locations in Colorado.

Place: Grand Vista Hotel, 2790Crossroads Blvd @ Horizon Drive,Grand Junction, CO. 81506

Cost: $150.00 early registra-tion, buffet lunch included; $175.00after May 1st.

Contact: Peter Krick, (970)256-4003 or Richard Bullen, (970)245-4921.

Time: 7:30 – 8:00 Registration8:00 – 12:00 Morning session12:00 – 1:00 Lunch1:00 – 5:00 Afternoon sessionWCLS will have its Chapter

meeting following the seminar. War-

ren Ward will give a presentation onNSPS. Don’t miss out on the greattraining and the fantastic Grand Val-ley.

Richard Bullen, PLSPresident, WCLS

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(970) 468-6281

BERNTSEN INTERNATIONAL, INC.P.O. Box 8670Madison, WI 0608-249-8549

CAD-112130 N. Pennsylvania Street

Thornton, CO 80241303-427-2231

CARLSON SOFTWARE12161 W. Layton Avenue

Morrison, CO 80465303-482-1836

COMPLIANCE SOLUTIONS3980 Quebec Street

2nd FloorDenver, CO 80207

303-307-9220

COMM-TECH5398 Manhattan Circle

Boulder, CO 80303303-530-4976

DAVID EVANS AND ASSOCIATES, INC1331 17th Avenue

Suite 900Denver, CO 80202

720-946-0969

ESRI380 New York StreetRedlands, CA 92373

909-793-2853

FLATIRONS SURVEYING, INC.3825 Iris Avenue, Suite 395

Boulder, CO 80301303-443-7001

FRONTIER PRECISION INC5855 E. Stapleton Dr. North A-140

Denver, CO 80216720-214-3500

HIXON MFG & SUPPLY CO8775 E Orchard Road, Suite 807

Englewood, CO 80111303694-0012

ROBERT R JOHNSRange West, Inc

P.O. Box 589Silverthorne, CO 80498

(970) 468-6281

NGS/NOAAPamela Fromhertz

c/o USGS Core Science InformaticsBuilding 810, MS 306

Denver, CO 80225303-202-4082

NV 58000 South Chester Street

Suite 200Centennial, CO 80112

303-220-6400

POWER SURVEYING COMPANY INC.120 W. 84th AvenueThornton, CO 80260

303-702-1617

PWSI LAND SURVEYORS3545 S. Platte River Drive, #M-3

Sheridan, CO 80110303-904-1345

DIANE SIERRA10355 Westmoor DriveWestminster, CO 80021

SITEWISE CORPORATION7000 N Broadway #3-305

Denver, CO 80221303 459 6531

SKLD INFORMATION SERVICES9540 East Jewell Avenue

Suite ADenver, CO 80247

303-695-3850

TOTAL POSTIONING SOLUTIONS5385 Quebec Street

Commerce City, CO 80022303-853-0311

SURV-KAP LLCP.O. Box 27367

Tucson, AZ 85726520-622-6011

TERRAMETRIX, LLC4852 S 133rd Street

Suite 105Omaha, NE 68137

402-618-3165

UNDERGROUND CONSULTING SOLUTIONS2701 W. Oxford Avenue, Suite 6

Englewood, CO 80110303-904-7422

VECTORS, INC8811 E Hampden Avenue

Ste 110Denver, CO 80231

303-283-0343

WESTERN RESEARCH & DEVELOPMENT634 Suntrail Drive

Loveland, CO 80538307-632-5656

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