Sherman Tank Myths - The Misery of Having 'Facts' to Work With

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Sherman Tank Myths - The Misery of Having 'Facts' To Work With By Copyright ©2015, J.D. Neal, All Rights Reserved Can anyone blame anyone for not being able to “get the facts right”. I was researching the question of whether or not the 75-mm rounds used in the Sherman tank’s M3 cannon would chamber in the 76-mm M1 series gun. I had only basic numbers to work with (overall length, cartridge case length, etc.) courtesy of TM9 1901 (Artillery Ammunition) dated 29 June 1944. So I started with picture compares. My process was to take a snap-shot from case bottom to projectile tip from the TM9 1901 pdf. Using a scale of x100 pixels per inch I laid them out as close as I could get, knowing I’d never be perfect: the 75mm M61 APC round was 26.29” long and hence 2629 pixels long and the 76mm M62 APC round 35.59” or 3559 pixels. The first pictures I used were misleading. They did not show the bell on the 75-mm case. I later found pictures that clearly showed that the 75-mm case was bottlenecked (if only slightly) while the 76mm was straight-cased. (Narrowing towards the projectile; a line drawn along the side confirmed there was no neck.) That was a letdown. Still, I wondered about the story of Shermans using 75-mm howitzer ammunition on Tarawa. It is also a bottle-necked case like the 75mm gun case with the shoulder further down on the case. So, perhaps the 75mm gun could fire 75mm howitzer rounds, since the worst result was likely a “blown out” case, and perhaps erosion in the throat if too many howitzer rounds were fired. If that was true, would the 75mm case fit the 76mm breech despite the different design? I was curious as to how different the 76mm and 75 cases were and decided to crudely measure them using pictures. I did some test measurements and things did not add up. It took a while to figure out that the US Army’s technical manual was wrong. Or perhaps only misleading. According to the manual: The 76mm M62 APC round is 33.8” long and has a 9.8” long shot. But, the M42 HE round is 33.3” long and has a 12.4” long shot. How could the HE round have a projectile 2.6” inches longer than the APC round but be a half inch shorter? The 76mm M79 AP round (no ballistic cap)

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