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Sharing Towpaths 1 / 29 49.41% 879 50.59% 900 Q10 Do you think there is anything missing that should be included as part of the principles? Answered: 1,779 Skipped: 369 Total 1,779 # If yes, please give details of what you think is missing Date 1 Guidelinesfor appropriate behaviour and safety should be prominently displayed for all those using the towpaths. 5/10/2014 2:22 AM 2 Accesspointsfrom highwaysand other 3rd party land should be designed to reflect the range of usersin a way that takesaccount of their safety, thisshould be done in conjunction with 3rd partieswhere appropriate. 5/8/2014 7:19 AM 3 There should be a specific policy on the education of usersof the towpath. Specific priority use should be clearly identified and publicised (e.g. walkerstake priority over cyclists; cyclists/mobility scootersshould warn othersof their approach; boatersshould be give space to bend down and tie up theirboatswithout riskof being mown down by a bike; anglersshould move keep netsquickly if a boat isapproaching a recognised visitor or lock mooring). 5/7/2014 1:20 PM 4 That canal towpathsshould retain their character and the use for which they were built, ashorse towpaths, whilst still being available for considerate use by other usersincluding horse riders. They should not be opened up for motorised use. Motorised use should only be where there are existing accessrights. 5/3/2014 9:59 AM 5 Ensuring the banksare able to be used asa tow path for horse boating cutting down treesthat have grown in the way. Giving pedestriansthe right of way over bikes 5/3/2014 12:36 AM 6 All potential usersof towpathsshould be permitted access, provided their use isin keeping with the history, tradition and tranquility of the waterway. Thisincludeswalkers, joggerscyclistsand horse-riders, but not usersof motorised vehicles. If specific usersare excluded from certain sectionstowpaths(cyclistsor horse-riders), a clear explanation and justification for the exclusion should be provided . There should be no blanket discrimination against any particulartype of user, provided the use isin keeping with the aforementioned features. 5/2/2014 2:46 PM 7 It isimportant that each category of user recognise the equal right of other categoriesto use the towpath and that there are no privileged users, that the amenity isSHARED. (Unfortunarley some pedestriansstill berate you for cycling on the path and consider they have special rightsand will not make any accommodation to let cyclistspast. Still too many don't understand the concept of SHARING amicably. On the other hand you will have to puzzle out methodsof addressing that one in ten crazy speeding angry cyclist who givesuscyclistssuch a negative profile. Wardenswith power of fining???? 5/2/2014 2:41 PM 8 Horse riding should be encouraged on towing pathswhere they are suitable such asthose on the Grantham Canal and River Trent. it baffles me that this is not a priority. 5/2/2014 1:40 PM 9 Horse Riding needsto be catered foron towing paths 5/2/2014 11:14 AM 10 There should be greater emphasison the speed of cyclists, 5/2/2014 10:26 AM 11 The upkeep of the canal paths as many are in poor repair 5/2/2014 10:03 AM 12 Boaters' code for use of towpath 5/2/2014 9:22 AM 13 Who hasright of way? 5/2/2014 9:21 AM 14 consideration and respect for those that live on or adjacent to the canal 5/2/2014 9:10 AM 15 One of the principlesshould relate to the different waysin which boatersuse the towpath, and how other usersneed to be aware of them, eg, stepping off the boat onto the towpath to moor up, letting a crew member off to go and set a lock, stepping off a moored boat to go shopping, etc. Equally, boatersshould be mindful of other towpath userswhen using the towpath, for example not blocking the towpath with ropesand by marking mooring pinswith something visible so they can be seen. 5/2/2014 9:03 AM 16 Recognition that boaterscan suddenly step onto the towpath from a boat; whether it ismoored up, or about to moor up, especially above and below locks. Thisisquite often whilst holding a rope which can cause a temporary obstruction, until the operation iscompleted. Thisis an essential use of the towpath. 5/2/2014 9:03 AM 17 Some boatersand fishermen need to be discouraged from 'taking over' the towpath by spreading their equipment or possessions over it. There should be a fundamental principle that no-one should obstruct the towpath other than for very short periods, for example while tying up. 5/2/2014 8:55 AM 18 Canal towpathsare extremely important to adjacent communitiesasa traffic free environment. 5/2/2014 8:08 AM 19 Cyclistsshould be licensed 5/2/2014 7:41 AM Yes No 0% 10% 20% 30% 40% 50% 60% 70% 80% 90% 100% Answer Choices Responses Yes No

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49.41% 879

50.59% 900

Q10Doyouthinkthereisanythingmissingthatshouldbeincludedaspartofthe

principles?Answered:1,779 Skipped:369

Total 1,779

# Ifyes,pleasegivedetailsofwhatyouthinkismissing Date

1 Guidelinesforappropriatebehaviourandsafetyshouldbeprominentlydisplayedforallthoseusingthetowpaths. 5/10/20142:22AM

2 Accesspointsfromhighwaysandother3rdpartylandshouldbedesignedtoreflecttherangeofusersinawaythattakesaccountoftheirsafety,thisshouldbedoneinconjunctionwith3rdpartieswhereappropriate.

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3 Thereshouldbeaspecific policyontheeducationofusersofthetowpath.Specific priorityuseshouldbeclearlyidentifiedandpublic ised(e.g.walkerstakepriorityovercyclists;cyclists/mobilityscootersshouldwarnothersoftheirapproach;boatersshouldbegivespacetobenddownandtieuptheirboatswithoutriskofbeingmowndownbyabike;anglersshouldmovekeepnetsquicklyifaboatisapproachingarecognisedvisitororlockmooring).

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4 Thatcanaltowpathsshouldretaintheircharacterandtheuseforwhichtheywerebuilt,ashorsetowpaths,whilststil lbeingavailableforconsiderateusebyotherusersinc ludinghorseriders.Theyshouldnotbeopenedupformotoriseduse.Motoriseduseshouldonlybewherethereareexistingaccessrights.

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5 Ensuringthebanksareabletobeusedasatowpathforhorseboatingcuttingdowntreesthathavegrownintheway.Givingpedestrianstherightofwayoverbikes

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6 Allpotentialusersoftowpathsshouldbepermittedaccess,providedtheiruseisinkeepingwiththehistory,traditionandtranquilityofthewaterway.Thisinc ludeswalkers,joggerscyclistsandhorse-riders,butnotusersofmotorisedvehic les.Ifspecificusersareexcludedfromcertainsectionstowpaths(cyclistsorhorse-riders),aclearexplanationandjustificationfortheexclusionshouldbeprovided.Thereshouldbenoblanketdiscriminationagainstanyparticulartypeofuser,providedtheuseisinkeepingwiththeaforementionedfeatures.

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7 Itisimportantthateachcategoryofuserrecognisetheequalrightofothercategoriestousethetowpathandthattherearenoprivilegedusers,thattheamenityisSHARED.(Unfortunarleysomepedestriansstil lberateyouforcyclingonthepathandconsidertheyhavespecialrightsandwillnotmakeanyaccommodationtoletcyclistspast.Stil ltoomanydon'tunderstandtheconceptofSHARINGamicably.Ontheotherhandyouwillhavetopuzzleoutmethodsofaddressingthatoneintencrazyspeedingangrycyclistwhogivesuscyclistssuchanegativeprofile.Wardenswithpoweroffining????

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8 HorseridingshouldbeencouragedontowingpathswheretheyaresuitablesuchasthoseontheGranthamCanalandRiverTrent.i tbafflesmethatthisisnotapriority.

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9 HorseRidingneedstobecateredforontowingpaths 5/2/201411:14AM

10 Thereshouldbegreateremphasisonthespeedofcyclists, 5/2/201410:26AM

11 Theupkeepofthecanalpathsasmanyareinpoorrepair 5/2/201410:03AM

12 Boaters'codeforuseoftowpath 5/2/20149:22AM

13 Whohasrightofway? 5/2/20149:21AM

14 considerationandrespectforthosethatl iveonoradjacenttothecanal 5/2/20149:10AM

15 Oneoftheprinciplesshouldrelatetothedifferentwaysinwhichboatersusethetowpath,andhowotherusersneedtobeawareofthem,eg,steppingofftheboatontothetowpathtomoorup,lettingacrewmemberofftogoandsetalock,steppingoffamooredboattogoshopping,etc.Equally,boatersshouldbemindfulofothertowpathuserswhenusingthetowpath,forexamplenotblockingthetowpathwithropesandbymarkingmooringpinswithsomethingvisiblesotheycanbeseen.

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16 Recognitionthatboaterscansuddenlystepontothetowpathfromaboat;whetheri tismooredup,orabouttomoorup,especiallyaboveandbelowlocks.Thisisquiteoftenwhilstholdingaropewhichcancauseatemporaryobstruction,untiltheoperationiscompleted.Thisisanessentialuseofthetowpath.

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17 Someboatersandfishermenneedtobediscouragedfrom'takingover'thetowpathbyspreadingtheirequipmentorpossessionsoveri t.Thereshouldbeafundamentalprinciplethatno-oneshouldobstructthetowpathotherthanforveryshortperiods,forexamplewhiletyingup.

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18 Canaltowpathsareextremelyimportanttoadjacentcommunitiesasatraffic freeenvironment. 5/2/20148:08AM

19 Cyclistsshouldbel icensed 5/2/20147:41AM

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20 Evenboatersmisusethetowpathandshouldbemadetothinkabout,(andputrightincertaincircumstances!)whattheyhavedone.SometimesoldBBQsandfiresortheirrubbishisjustleftforsomeoneelsetoclearandi t'snotgood.Evenstuffwrappedroundpropsisleftthere,tobekickedbackinandcausesomeoneelseaproblem.Dredgingcontinuestobeasorepointthatmustbetackledtokeepourwaterwaysviable!

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21 Moreemphasisonboatsandboaters,eg,otherusersoftowpaths,especiallycyclists,needtobeparticularlyawareofboatcrewsoperatinglocksorbridgesorsteppingoffaboatontothetowpath.

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22 Whentowpathresurfacingtakesplace,theconservationaspectshouldbeconsidered.I.eincertaintownsredbrickashwouldhavebeenusedandablacksurfaceintheBlackCountry.Theseelementsenhancethehistoric natureofthetowpathandenvironment.

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23 Maintainingthetowpathsinasafestatesuitableforallusersandmaintenancecrews.SectionsontheK&Ahavebecomesonarrowduetoerosionandovergrowththeydonotmeetthisstandard

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24 Privacyofboatersshouldbeparamount.Permanentmooringsitesshouldbeawayfromthegongoozlersgaze. 5/2/20145:58AM

25 Cyclingmustbeslow,leisurelyandcourteous.Pedestriansareallthosethingsonthetowpath,soshouldbecyclists! 5/2/20145:09AM

26 Cyclingontowpathshasbeensuggestedseveraltimesinthelastfewyears-andmyfamilyhaswrittentoCyclistsTouristsClubasmemberstoopposethis.Itisjustnotappropriate.

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27 Asthedemandforvisitormooringsincreasesincreases,morevisitormooringsshouldbebuilt. 5/2/20143:43AM

28 Adrivetorepair,restoreandimproveALLtowpathstomakethemsafe,accessibleandpleasanttowalk. 5/2/20143:23AM

29 Thesequestionshavequiteobviouslybeencreatesbyacommittee,hencetheobfuscatetheirrealpoint 5/2/20143:09AM

30 Towpathsshouldcontainmaintainedhedgerowsandothervegetationtomaintainahighwaybetweentheirnaturalhabitatsforwildlife

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31 Nothingaboutimprovementstothenetwork. 5/2/20142:32AM

32 WeareallawarethatSustranscontributelargeamountstoimprovetowpaths,carefulconsiderationMUST betakenwhetherSustransmoneyisaccepted.Manycycliststhinki tistheirrighttotravelathighspeedsonaSustransnumberedroute,cyclistsmustbemadeawarethati tisnottheirrightotheruserscomefirst.Thereisagrowingantiofcyclistsonmanytowpaths.

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33 hedges,whencut,needtohaveclippingsremoved-orbetterstil lcaughtduringcut-towpathscanbenotoriousforpunctures,andyoucanbeveryisolatedandstrandedi fyoudoneedtostop.Ifsurfacesaretarmaced,thismeansalongstandingongoingcosts-otherwisei tcanbecomesoroughforbikes(andwheelchairs)thattheyarealmostnotuseable(seestretchnearboatmuseuminEllesmerePort).Bettertohaveagrittedcompactedsurface-alsolooksmorenatural.

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34 Theprincipletomaintainassetsaswellasprovidethem. 5/2/201412:15AM

35 Aguideforsafeuseofthetowpathsinparticularforcyclistsandanglers.Speedl imitsareneededasmanycyclistsreachhighspeedsandhavenoconsiderationforothertowpathusers.Anglersdisplayalackofrespectandconcernforwildlife,andleavetheirl i tterinc ludingemptytinswithdangeroussharpedges,plastic beercanholders,andthetreacherousfishingl ineandhookstonamejustafew.

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36 i)Probablysomedetailre.HOWyouintendto'improve'-andinc ludinguseofsignageandcalmingmeasures-andyetrespecttheheritage,conservationand'nature'aspectsofsomanyprimedestinationswhereconflic tisanissuei i)earlysignsinmyarea,re.CycleRoutes,usetorecommendtocycliststhattheyhold3rdpartyinsurance.Whilstthismightperhapsbeseenasalarmist,nonethelessgreaterconsiderationofsuch-ofthefactof*liabil ity*i fyoudoinfactcauseinjurytoothers,mightjustbringhometoinconsideratecycliststhattherecouldbeconsequenceoftheiractionsc)someconsiderationasto*how*youdecideonwhichlocationsget'improvements'?currently,thisseemsveryarbitraryand,inmyarea,totallydependentonthewhimofoneCouncilOfficerwhodecides-ornot-inwhichtown-areas,accordingtopersonalpreference/partisan-ship,whichsectionsoftowpathtobidforimprovementson,viaHLFfunding.Incaseofmyowntown,whichisbyfarthelargestcanalsidetownintheBorough,withthegreatestheritageattractionsandassets(asoftusedinpublic itypicsonCRT website)i tnonethelessgetsnosupportforpropertowpathimprovement,orcyclecalmingmeasures,aroundoneside/sic.WaterwayAreaofi tshistoric Wharf-leavingthefarc icalsituationofamud-batharoundoneside,inoneArea,ofwhatisinfactacircularwalkroundtheBasinwhichshouldbeenjoyed,whenpassable,byvisitors(includingthosetoadjacentrestaurants,notjustwithwellies!)tothisspecific location-andwhichimprovementwouldgreatlybenefitamenityforboththelocalcommunityandbringinmoney&investmentinthetownthroughimprovedvisitorexperience.Withthenow-importanceof'localcommunities'inCRT'sMissionStatement,locationsdecidedforimprovement*should*nowbeselectedentirelyonneed/meritsandnotsimplyinl inewith'nods'tooldpublic partnerships.Ithinkthisisreallyimportant,beforeyougettoconsiderationsofdesign/modificationstoenhancesharedusage-getthebasic prioritiesright,first,intermsoffairtreatmentforthe'HiddenGems'thatarebeingmarketedatarmslength,andmakeCRT seeml ikeaTrustedGuardianintermsoftransparencyandequalityoftreatment:comeandseeourtowpathinwinteratSowerbyBridge-youwon'tfindthesameawfulmuddymess,withcyclistshurtl ingdownlockhillsandalongnarrowcobbledsections,roundblindbends,atHebdenBridgeorTodmorden,orevenBrighouse!!

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37 Canalshouldcontinuetobeadaptedtoformannevironmentallyfriendlytransportnetowrkwitheronthewaterorbythesideofi tforwalkersandcyclists

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38 PEDESTRIANSHAVEPRIORITYshouldtakenumberonespot.Youhavedowngradedthisimportantmessage-andthiswillreboundonyouwhensomeoneisrunoverbyafastcyclist.

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39 Useofroutesalongcanalstoenhancesustainabletransportpossiblyparticularlycyclingasafasterthanwalkinglowcarbonmethodofmovement.

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40 Enforcementoftherules-Boatersmooringfortoolongandtreatingthecanalastheirownresidenceorbackgardentobemovedon.Dogownerstobefinedforallowingtheiranimalstofoulthetowpath.Thespeedl imitforcycliststobeenforced.Walkersandjoggersideallytobekeptawayfromanglers.Bettercommunicationwithcanoeclubsaboutcooperatinginthasharedfacil ity.Drunkenorspeedingboaterstobetreatedasadriveronroad.

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41 Thetowpathswerenotoriginally"recreational",andboatersstil ldependupontheminadifferentwaythandootherrecreationalusers.Aroundlocks,swingbridges,etc.,priorityshouldbegiventounimpededaccessforboaterstothetowpaths.

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42 Needcanoeaccesspoints,parkingandunloadingandpontoonsorslopes. 5/1/201412:43PM

43 Polic ingoftheboatingfraternitywhoagainbelieve-inmanyinstances-thattheyhaveexclusiverightstothewater,especiallywhereanglersareconcerned.Itisaworryingfactthatyouareallowedtobeinchargeofaboatwithnotrainingwhatever-oftentothedetrimentofanglers.

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44 makecyclegroupspayforupkeepingcyclistaregettingi tallfreebutdoingthemostdamage 5/1/201410:33AM

45 Thereisnomentionofl i tteralongthecanalside.Thisisanti-socialbutisnothelpedbyalackofl i tterbins.Itwouldbeusefuli fthePoliceusedthetowpathsinsomeurbanareaswhereanti-socialbehaviouroccurs.Somelovelywalkscanbespoiltbygroupswhocanbeoff-puttingtoothersanddon'talwaysbehaveappropriately.

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46 Allimprovements/alterationsshouldfirstandforemostbenefittheboatertoreflecttheirfinancialinputvial icencefees. 5/1/20149:36AM

47 Towpathsshouldinteractwiththeoverallgreenplansforthelocalcouncilareastheypassthrough. 5/1/20149:34AM

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48 Priorityaccessforl icencepayingusers 5/1/20149:28AM

49 Coveredinoutputsfromworkshop 5/1/20149:23AM

50 Clearerwordingwouldmakethissurvey,andmaybethestandardsthemselves,easiertounderstand. 5/1/20149:18AM

51 Hedgecareonmanytowpathsisinadequate.Specifically,hawthornswhentrimmedgiveparticularproblemsforcyclists.Conditionofsometowpaths(egShropshireUnionfromChestertoEllesmerePort)iscurrentlyi insuchpoorstatethati tisalmostunusable

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52 DisposalofRubbish.Sopeopleareverylazyanddonottaketheirrubbishhome.Asaminimumaremindertodosomighthelpi fanactualbincannotbeavailable/managed(Idoappreciatethemanagementofbinswouldbeanissue)

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53 Whilstwantingtopreservethehistoric context,cobblesarenotbikefriendly. 5/1/20148:10AM

54 Morewarningsignstoalldistinctusergroupstobesympatheticallyawareofeachgroupsrequirements.aware 5/1/20147:52AM

55 Clearsignagehighlightingthati tisasharedrouteforall,withperhapscooperationfromcommunitypolic ingtomonitor?Perhapsthedevelopmentofapubliscized"TowpathHighwaycode"InCheshireIamawareofagrowing"towpathrage"frompedestrians(whofrequentlyarewearingheadphones)whohaveaproblemwithmeslowingbehindthem,ringingmybellandexpectingtobeallowedpastthemwhenconvenient.Dogowners(Iamonemyself)needtounderstandthati ftheyarewalkingtheirdogsthere,theyshouldeitherbeonalead,orundercontrol-Sit,Stay,Leaveetc andnottobesurprisedwhencyclistswanttogopast.Alloftheaboveprobablymoreofaproblemwheretowpathsenterurbanareas.

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56 Whataretheprinciplesespousedbyotherwaterwaymanagers?TheIWAforexamplehasapolicywhichisentirelyfocussedontheinterestsofboaters.Whataretheanglers,cyclists,ramblers,ecologistsandlandownersviews?Therepromisestobemajorconflic tsofinterests

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57 Themainproblemispersuadingthevarioususerstonotbeselfish.Thereare4mainusers-Boaters-Walkers-Anglers--Cyclists.Withafewoddexceptionsweseel i ttlefric tionbetweenthefirstthreeparties.Membersofthosefirst3consistentlyhaveproblemswithcyclists

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58 Arecognitionofthepublic healthbenefitsthataccesstowaterwayscanbring. 5/1/20147:10AM

59 Boatersshouldhavepriorityatalltimesastheyactuallypaytousethewaterways. 5/1/20146:51AM

60 Noregardfortheneedsoftheboatyingcommunity 5/1/20145:35AM

61 Itravelregularlylongdistanceonthetowpaths.Ifeelthereshouldbemoreovernightcampingsitesdirectlyattatchedtothetowpath.Thecanalnetworkisonlygearedtowardsboatersatthemin.

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62 Thinkingoftheoldtraditionof'BeatingtheBounds'Ihaveoftenwonderedi fanewonecouldbestarted.Encouraging,especiallyrural,ParishCouncilsandTownCouncilswhohavecanalandrivertowpathsintheirareatohaveanannual/biannual'walk'alongtheirtowpathstocelebrateandrecogniselocal'accessownership'ofthesemarvellousassets.Goodluckwiththissurveyandthankyouforthechancetohaveasay.

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63 wehaveanarrowboatandstronglybelieveinkeepingthecanalsandriverssafeforotherstousebutalsohaveabigproblemwithwidebeamboatsaswhentheygopasttheytakeallthewaterawayfromthesidesandcauseotherboatstogoagroundandinmanycasesthinki tsveryfunnyastheygoontheway

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64 Multiuseisinevitableandlargelytobewelcomedinmanyplaces.However,themajorityofthenetworkshouldremaininaconditionsuitableforwalkinginsinglefi leandnotupgradedforotheruses.Suchchangesdiminishtheoverallcanalenvironmentsignificantly.

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65 Theoveruseofsecurityl ightingoncanalsidepropertyandindustrialbuildings,whichcaneffectnavigationondarkevenings. 5/1/20144:56AM

66 Yes,doyouthinkthatboatsshouldbemadeapriorityinmanagingthewaterways...yes! 5/1/20144:43AM

67 Towpathusersshouldbeencouragedtotaketheirl i tterhomeandnottoleavedogmess! 5/1/20144:41AM

68 ClearSIGNAGEincorporatingmileagesanddirectionsetc onalltowpaths. 5/1/20144:36AM

69 shouldcyclistbechargedtousethetowpathmanyotheruserarerequiredtopaye.g.anglers,boaters,thiswaytheycouldberegisteredandreportedwhentheyabusethetowpaths.

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70 Grassshouldbecutbackandcollectaroundalllockstheyareveryimportanttouswhenusingmyboat.Idon'twanthalfthegrasscomingbackontheboattheyshouldlookniceandcutallthetime!Theyareplacesofoldbeautyandweshouldlookafterthatfactandkeepthemlookingnice

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71 Priorityforboaters,whoactuallypaytowardsthecanals. 5/1/20144:24AM

72 preventionofLycraloutcyclistsusingtowpathsascyclewaysshouldbesteppeduptheyhavenoplaceonthetowpaththecasualfamilycyclistsarefinebuttheseneedremovingpermanentlyfromourwaterways

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73 theviewsexpressedhareareverynarrowandfocussed,andseemtobejustaboutgettingvalidationforsomeonesidea,ratherthansolicatingideas,andassuchdoesseemtobeaverypoorsurvey.

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74 Thissurveyhasalotofleadingquestions 5/1/20143:59AM

75 Thereshouldbemoreinc ludedabouttheuseofi tandthemaintenanceofi t,thereisoftenalotofbrokenglassandrubbishwhichdetractsfromi t

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76 Cyclistsusedtoneedtohaveapermittocyclethetowpath.Istherelegislationcoveringthis?Ifsowhyisi tnotstil loperating?Itisagoodmeansofraisingrevenue.Itcouldbeinc ludedinaboatsl icensefeebutsoldseparatelytootherusers.

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77 Itisabsolutelyfundamentaltorecognisethattheprimeusersoftowpathsareboaters,whocontributearoundaquarterofCRT’sannualincome.TheremustberecognitionintheTowpathCodeoftheneedforotheruserstorespectboatersandtheirneeds.Theneedsofboatersshouldalsobeparamountinfuturetowpathimprovements.BoatersintheLondonBetterRelationshipsGroup,usingthefindingsoftheGLAreview,havebeenpressingCRT foradditionalmooringringstobeinstalledduringtowpathupgradeworks.Theyhavealsobeenpressingforotherenhancementstoboatingfacil itiessuchasadditionalrefusepoints.NABOsupportsthesecallsforimprovementsandnotesthatotherusers,apartfromboaters,alsoneedaccesstothesefacil ities.

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78 Il iveinahousewiththetowpath40feetfrommyloungewindow.MyneighbourandIhavehadthequalityofourl ivescompletelydestroyedbythemooringof'l iveaboard'boatsoutsideofourhouse.duringthelast3/4years.In2013,281daysoutof365wehadboatsmoored,somedoubleparked.Smokingchimneys(Wel iveinasmokefreezone!!)generatorsonthetowpath,washingl ines,barkingdogs,andlotsoffoullanguage.manydayswecannotuseourgarden.Wehavehadmeetingswiththecanaltrustmanager-MrWhyattwhohasrefusedtodoanythingtorestrictthemooring.wehaverequested,forabout100yds,24/48hrmooringsothatholidayboatsarenotaffected,butstopsthe'l iveaboards'.TherearehundredsofyardsofmooringthatdoesnotaffectanybodyinGiffardPark.Surelythisisnottoomuchtoask,just100ydsrestricted.Please,pleasehelp,wepay£XXXX/yearhousetaxandthevalueofourhouseshasbeenreducedduetotheconstantmooringoftheseboatsandtheirdisregardtothehouseholders.IhaveinvitedMrWhyatttovisitmetoseeforhimself,buthehasneverbotheredtoacceptmyinvite.

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79 Theincreasingtendencyofanglingmatchestotakeoverdesignatedmooringareasshouldbestronglyresisted-"firstcomefirstserved"isnotequitablewhenoneofthe"comers"canonlygetintothesideatveryfewplaces,andmooringshavel i ttleadvantageforfishermenoverotherareasoftowpath,exceptperhapsforproximitytoroadaccess?

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80 cyclistsshouldhavrtopayasmallfeetousetowpathandsticktospeedl imitsandtakemoreconsiderationwhencomeaccros/passingothercanalusers,everyoneshouldberesponsibleforkeepingthetowpathclearorrubbishanddogownersshouldclearupdogmess

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81 Greaterimportanceshouldbegiventowildlife.Forexample,mylocalcanaltowpathwasnotmowninthepastandwasahavenforwildflowersandotherwildlife.Nowthepolicyseemstobetoturni tintoalawnandthereforedevoidofanynaturalhistoryinterest.Ifi thastobemownperhapsjustastripinthecentrewouldbeasuitablecompromise.

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82 Clearsignageforcycleuserules 4/30/201411:47AM

83 Inaccessingandusingtowpaths,priorityshouldbegivento:1)thosetravelingbynarrowboat,2)thosetravelingbyotherwaterborncraft,3)walkersandanglers,4)runnersandcyclists,andlastly,5)anyoneelse.

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84 Towpathsshouldwhereverpossiblebeconservedintheirtraditionalstatewithtraditionalsurfaces.Effortsshouldbemadetopreservegrasssurfaceswheretraffic isl ightenoughforthistobeviable.

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85 Wherenewtowpathformspartofanewplace,thetowpathmakesupthatsenseofplace.Itshistoric useneedstobesetwithinamoderncontext.

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86 Boatersseemtoreceiveverysecondaryconsiderationtoalltheothertowpathusers.Youmention"historic names"anduseof"horsedrawnboats".Shouldtherenotbeareferencetotherebeingoftraditionalusagebyboats,indeedtherebecauseofboats.Unlessyouaddressi tinthenextpart,thereisnomentionthatwemoorup,sitonthebank(andtrytokeepoutofthewayofotherusers.),butareactuallytowpathusers.

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87 Towpathsneedtobebetterpromotedasasharedpedestrianwalkwayandthatthepaceshouldbesuch,pedestrian. 4/30/20146:16AM

88 Someexplanationofwhoispayingfortheworkorthetrustandwherethefundscomefrom.Otherwisetherewillbeadebatealongthel inesofthe'roadtax'nonsenseoftenaimedatcyclists.

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89 Howaboutgivinganglersthenontowpathsideofthecanalwithbetteraccessandparking,againasanglerswehavecontributedovermanyyears,andwedonotneedanicepath,justacleartrack.

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90 Astatementoftheconventiononwhichsidetopassorovertake-peopledon'tknow! 4/30/20142:17AM

91 speedl imitsenforcedonbothwaterandpathsastheyareonthebroads 4/30/20141:03AM

92 Ifcyclistsaretobeallowedtousethesepathsaprinciplemustbesettomakethemaccountablefortheiractionsregardingsafety,speedandotherusers.

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93 Nothingmissingassuch,justmoreemphasisontheshareduseofthetowpathandthecivilinteractionoftheusers.Therewillbeinstanceswhereoneusersneedswillbeatoddswithanothersandwemustberemindedthatthefacil ityisthereforall.

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94 shareduseisapriviledge.Thetowpathswerebuilttoservethewaterwayusers-boaters.onlytheyandanglersarethepayingcustomerswhousethecanalsandtheirbanks.Thetowpathsprovideapeacefulhavenforenjoyingthewatersideandcountrysideevenasthecanalpassesthroughurbanareas.Thisshouldnotbedestroyedtofacil itatefastertravelbyjoggers,runnersorworst,inconsideratecyclists.

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95 Rulesandbye-lawsshouldbeclearlydisplayedandkeptuptodate,thenenforcedbythesocalled"waterpolice"whoonlyappearinterestedindealingwithunlicensedboatsandnotparkingmattersorotherviolationsbydayboaterssuchasparkingonpicnic areasandusingtowpathsforresidents&CRT staffonly...TheseshouldbeenforcedandNOT ignoredbyCRT officers.....ATalllevels.....

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96 Thismaybejustasmallthing,butIdisagreewithadvisingcycliststousetheirbelltoletpeopleknowtheyarebehindthem.AsacyclistIknowi tisunnecessaryandasapedestrianIfindi tincrediblyrudeandannoying.Itseemstogocompletelycountertothenotionofconsideratecycling,whichdictatesthatyouslowdownuntilyouhaveagoodchancetopass.Asatotallastresort,inanemergencyandbeforegoingunderblindbridges,Iconcedethatthereisoccasionallygoodreasontousethebellbutroll ingupbehindsomeoneanddingingthemoutofthewaystandsformeasaprimeexampleofinconsideratecycling,andIbelievei tshouldnotbeencouraged.

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97 Prioritytoangkerswhopayforuseofthecanals 4/29/20141:22PM

98 Iagreethatcyclistsneedtobeconsideratewhenusingsharedroutes,butthesameshouldapplytopedestrianswhoaresometimesaggressiveandinconsideratetowardscyclists.

4/29/201412:58PM

99 Cyclistsshouldnotbeabletousetowpathsatallbutspecialydesignedcycleways 4/29/201411:39AM

100 cyclist'smustkeeptospeedl imitdogsneedtobekeptundercontrolpreferablyonaleadandnotallowedtofowltopath 4/29/201411:32AM

101 Moresignsadvisingpeopletoslowdownandthinkaboutchildrenandanimalsonthetowpaths 4/29/20148:59AM

102 Noticesofimportanteventstakingplacel ikeregattas,boatersgatheringforsocialevents,racesalomgthecanalonfootorbycycleandfishingmatches.Iwouldl iketoseemoreunderstandingfromotherusersodfanglersneeds

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103 Bettersignstostatecyclistneedtoslowdownandgiveway,Towpathsneedtoberepairedonaregbasisandtreesneedtobecutbackawayfromthetowpathsastheytendtofallacrossthetowpathandalsowhenrainsthetowpathsarefloodedl ikeinnewburyberkshirewhicharereallybad.

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104 Nothingabouttell ingcycliststobepreparedtodismountetc i ftheyencounterotherusers.Likei tsaysonthesignsroundLeightonBuzzard.

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105 Thereneedstobeamorevisualandactiveteamofwaterbailiffstobeabiggerdeterrentofpoachers. 4/29/20146:57AM

106 Ithinkyouneedtomakeadistinctionbetweenrecreationalcyclingandutil ity/commutercycling. 4/29/20146:45AM

107 Donotforgettheanglingcommunity 4/29/20146:13AM

108 Thissurveyisveryleadinganddoesn'tgivetheopportunitytodisagree-onlycansayyouagreeori tisnotimportant.Itfocusesonsharingthespaceequallybetweenalluserswhereasinurbanareas,l ikeLondon,i tmayneedtobeusedforthebenefitofamajoritypeople.

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109 Ifthesurveywhatisimport,thenthecodeofpracticeshouldbemadeeasilyavailable.Atthemomenti tisimpossibletofind(seewebsitesurvey).Asalswayssomeselfishpeoplewilldowhattheywantwithoutconsideration.Theenforcementteamshouldhaveanincreasedremit(jobdescription)toinc ludingantisocialbehavior,i l l igalanglingwithfulllegalbackup.

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110 Torecognizethefinancialcontributionofboatl icenseholdersinensuringthefreedomtomoorisfullyconsideredandbalancedagainsttherequirementsofotherusers.

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111 Principlesannounced,andbeingconsultedupon,appeartobethoroughandconcise. 4/29/20145:07AM

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112 guidlinesshouldbedrawnupforhowpeopleandcyclesshouldpasspeople.Forexample:cyclistwanttopassontheinsideastheriversideofthepathisfrieghteningforthemtopassonsoi facycleiscomingtowardsawalkertheyshouldmovetothewatersidebutconverselycyclistshouldmovetothewatersidei fpassingonawalkerfrombehind.

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113 Speedl imits.Signs.morerubbishbins 4/29/20144:13AM

114 Pedestrianshaveresponsibil itiestoo.Apoliterecommendationtotrytoremainawareofone'ssurroundingswouldhelpremindwalkersthattheyarenottheonlyusersoftowpaths.

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115 Considerationshouldbegiventosegregatingusesi faccesstobothsidesofthecanalisavailable.Forinstance,thiscouldallowanglerstohavequietenjoymentoftheirsport,withoutconflic tingwithothertransportrelatedactivities.

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116 Inbusyareas,shouldbesignsaskingcycliststoringbellandslowdownwhenpassingpedestrians,butalsoaskingpeopletomoveovertoleftwhentheyknowbikesarethere.Itsl iketryingtogetpastaherdofsheep.

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117 somethingaboutsafetyofpedestrians...informationonwhetheratowpathisusedsuffic ientlytobesafeforalonewalker. 4/29/20142:12AM

118 SignsbyCaRT ANDSustransinformingcyclistsItisNOT abikeracetrack! 4/29/20141:59AM

119 Moreawarenessandaccountabil ityonthepartofspeedingcyclists-perhapsmakingthemdisplaysomekindofal icence/ID. 4/29/20141:44AM

120 Cyclistsmustuseabellandkeeptoasafespeed. 4/29/20141:30AM

121 perhapsinthelegendi tcouldhaveasymbolshowingneedsimprovement. 4/29/20141:29AM

122 Ageneralmessageaboutsafetyandconsiderationforotherusersinprintedorsignform. 4/29/20141:23AM

123 Aspeedl imitforcyclists.Dogwastebinsandmorerubbishbins. 4/29/20141:21AM

124 Moreinformationabouttowpathconditionbysectiontoassisttraveldecisionsmadebycyclistsandthosewithdisabilities. 4/29/201412:25AM

125 Cyclistsinparticularneedtoappreciatethatanglersneedspace(especiallyi ftheyarepolefishing)andtheyshoulddismountwhenapproachingandmakei tknowntheyarecoming(especiallyi ftheyaretravell ingquickly).Theyshouldalsobuyanannuallicencetousethetowpathandthuscontributetoi t'supkeep,as,forexample,inwintertheycanquicklymakeamessofthetowpath.

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126 accesspointstoexistingrightsofwaytocreatecircularmulti-userroutesusingbothwaterwaysandotherROW'sEncouragenewroutestoenablethecreationofcircularmulti-userroutes

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127 Cyclistsshouldbeforcedtorecognisethattowpathsarenottraffic-freeracetracks.Allbikesontowpathsshouldbefittedwithbellsandtheridersshouldusethemwheneverapproachingpedestriansfrombehind.Anglersshouldbepersuadedtotakeuplesstowpathwidthwiththeirgear,andparticularlywhendrawingincanal-widthrods.

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128 Promotingawarenessthatcyclistringingabellisnotmeanttobeintrusivebutisdesignedtoalertotheruserstopresence 4/28/201411:59AM

129 Yes.Itisparticularlyobviousthattheneedsandrightsofhorseridershavebeenignoredonspurioushealthandsafetygrounds-whereinassessmentdoesnotseemtobecoherentandsitespecific .

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130 Thatprivateinvestmentisusedtoimprovetheconditionoftowpaths. 4/28/201410:32AM

131 Shouldalsocapturetheprinciplethatprotectionofthetowpathfromvandalism&l i tteringisparamount 4/28/20148:56AM

132 Towpathsshouldcontinuetol imitaccesstocyclistsandhavegatesorotherspeed-limitingdevicestopreventendangeringwalkersandboatersandl imiterosionoftowpaths.

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133 Heritagesignage.Naturewatchinformation.Directionalsignposts,milepostsonnot-fittedroutes 4/28/20145:59AM

134 Whilepedestrianshavepriority,everyoneshouldberecognisedashavingequalrights! 4/28/20144:42AM

135 Particularlykeentoseethatrulesregardingcontrolofdogsareputinplace.Werunabusycanalsidecentreandseenearaccidentsonadailybasisthroughpeoplelettingtheirdogsloosetorunaround.Thiscanbedangerouswhentherearemanycyclistsandchildrenusingthesamestretchofcanaltowpath

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136 Includehorseusersintowpathuse,astheywereoriginallydesignedfor.Ifyouwanttokeephistoric principlesthenthatisthemosthistoric ofthemall.

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137 Themainpurposeofthesehistoric towpathsshouldbemaintainedforthemainuseofthosewhosel icencefeespaysforthem.Cyclistetc donotpay.

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138 Accesstohorseridersshouldbethesameaswalkersandcyclists 4/28/201412:54AM

139 Accessforcyclists,akeyformofsustainabletransport,shouldbeencouragedandpermitsshouldnotberequired 4/27/20149:11PM

140 Wheretowpathcyclinghaspotentialtoreplacecarjourneys,thebenefitsinincreasedhealthandreducedemissionsshouldbeanimportantfactorindecisionsaboutpossiblewidening,resurfacingetc.

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141 Somethingaboutremovinggatesetc whichimpedeprogressandalsomakingasmoothsurfaceforbothbikesandwheelchairswhereverpossible.Alsothatanywatersidedevelopmentmustcontributetoimprovingaccess.Cafesetc tobeencouragedwherespacepermits.

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142 Takeoutthebitaboutroads 4/27/20142:10PM

143 Acodeofpracticeforallusersshouldbepromoted,thisistoreducetheamountofconfrontationsonthebanksidethroughignoranceand/orintolerancewithdifferentusergroups.

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144 NoBicycleswithoutbellsasnotallpeoplecanhearthemcoming 4/27/201410:32AM

145 Cyclistsshouldbeparticularlytargetedintheapplicationoftheseprinciples.Dogfoulingshouldalsobeparticularlytargetedasthisseemstobeontheincrease.Towpathrenovationshouldbeofalastingnatureandnotl iabletobereducedtopuddlesandmudbankswithinacoupleofyearsasforexampletheBurscoughtoFarmersArmssectionontheLeedsandLiverpoolCanal.

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146 Appropriatebarrierstopreventmotorcyclesusingtowpathsbutdon'tmakecyclingtoodifficultorrequireriderstodismount 4/27/20145:42AM

147 BoatersPAYasignificantamounttousethewaterway.Theuseofthetowpathshouldbeconsideredanintegralpartofthatlicence.AnglersalsoPAYtofishthewater,theirl icenceshouldalsoreflectuseofthetowpath.Anyfutureproposaltocreateapossibleincomestreamfromtowpathuseshouldexcludeanywaterwayuserwhoiscurrentlypayingal icencefee.

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148 conductforwalkerswithdogs,conductforlargegroupsoframblers,responsibil ityforrepairorfundingofimprovementstobemadeclearbetweeninterestedparties.

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149 Doyouthinkthatsomecyclist,(notall)misusethetowpathandthereshouldbesomeformofpolic ingtostopthis?Reason:Iwalkwithmyyounggranddaughtersonthetowpath,mostcyclistareconsiderate'givegoodwarningandreducetheirspeed,unfortunatelysomedonotandareadangertoallotherusers.Ialsofearmostdonotcarryadequateinsurance.InYorkshireatthemomentthereisaeuphoriawith,"TheGrandDepart"andastrongcyclistlobbytosupporttheircause.WhilstI'mnotagainstthemusingthetowpath,Ifeeltherestofusarenotfullyrepresented.

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150 genralspeedl imitsforcyclistsandcompulsoryinsurancetocoverdamage.theycomethroughveryfastandveryquietlyandi tisnighonimpossibletocatchthemi ftheydodamageyourgear,(iamalsoacyclist)

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151 Completeall-weatheraccessforchildbuggies/wheelchairs/mobility-scooters-inc ludingnolockedgates,nobarriersthatpreventfreeaccessetc.

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152 RemindertoallusersthatthewaterwaysareprimarilyaNAVIGATIONandassuchreflectsaslowerwayofl i feoftimesgonebynowavailabletobeenjoyedbyallinconsiderationtoi tsheritage.

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153 Seepreviouscomments. 4/26/20141:59PM

154 1.Questionnumber9needstobechanged!2.TheTowpathcodeMUST haveclearinformationabouttheprimacyoftowingbyanimalorhumanpower,asthatistheoriginalintendedmainuseoftowpaths.3.Moreemphasisonthishistoric useastheraisond'etrefortowpathmustbemade.

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155 Useoftowpathsforriddenhorses,toprovidesafeoffroadconnectionbetweenquietlanesandbridleways 4/26/201412:54PM

156 Polic ingspeedofbikes 4/26/20149:52AM

157 Emphasisonboatingasthemainpurposeofthecanalsandtowpaths! 4/26/20149:03AM

158 Youhavefailedtoaddresstheneedsoftheboatingcommunity.Wearethesolegroupwhopaysfortheuseofthecanals.Wespendmoneyinthemarinas,boatyardsandlocalvil lages.Boatersalsoworkinthearea.Theboatingcommunitycontributetothelocaleconomyandmoneyisputintocirculationkeepingsolventpubs,cafes,shopsetc.,CRT isadisgustingandanoffensiveorganization.Fromi tsoutset,i thasfailedtoprotectandenhanceconditionsfortheboatingcommunitybutenhancesfacil itiesforvariousgroupsthatcontributenothingfortheupkeepofthecanal.IhopethatCRT failsandthecanalnetworkisputbackintopublic handswithproperfundingandaccountabil ity.Howwilltheseprinciplesbemonitored?Willtherebesanctions?Whowilladministerthesanctions?Whowillbeaccountable?Thisisallveryhappyclappybasedonhotair.Thisconsultationisawasteoftime.Moneyshouldhavebeenspentinthepreservationofthecanalsystem.Typicalofvolunteersheadingacommitteewithnofinanciall iabil ity

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159 Wouldbegoodtoseewardensorthel ikepatroll ingthefootpathsofferingadvicetoallusersandpolic ingunlawfulactivities 4/26/20148:14AM

160 Thatwildlifeandfaunashouldbeencouragedandconsideredinanyfutureworksonanytowpath 4/26/20147:48AM

161 Mostlytowpathsarefarfromidealasasensibleroutetogosomewhere.AtrushhourinLondoncyclingtoworkonthetowpathisascarygameofchicken-whowillbackdownfirst?MainlyIdon'tthinktheyshouldbepartofatransportpolicy,theyshouldbeaccessibletowalkersandcyclistswhoaretherefortheatmosphere,oftenawelcomebitofnatureinanotherwisebuilt-upenvironment.

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162 Thetrustwillrecognisethattheoriginalpurposeoftow-pathshaschangedandtheyarenowpartofanetworkofslowertrafficroutesandproceedaccordingly.Thepresenceofthefishingcommunityshouldnotimpactontheprincipalpurposeoftherouteie.anaquatic andterrestrialthoroughfare.

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163 Usersblockingthepathi .e.fishermenoftenhavetheirkitcompletelyblockingthepath,duringmatchesi tisdificulttogetdownthepath

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164 Anyroutesthatgoundergroundorthroughlongtunnelsshouldbeadequatelyl i tordirectionsprovidedateitherendwithanalternativesaferroute

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165 Horseaccesstoalltowpathsshouldbeallowed 4/25/20141:02PM

166 Theremustbespacecontainedinthewidthofdesignatedtowpathsforboatstomoorsafely(withinreason)andanglerstofish(withinreason)withoutbeinginconflic twithcyclists.

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167 Cyclistsneedtobeconsiderateandkeeptheirspeeddown. 4/25/201411:35AM

168 Towpathsareoftenpermissivepathsandsoprovideanopportunitytohelpuserstorecognisethattheyareexercisingaprivilegeandnotaright,andsoshouldberespectfuloftheenvironmentandofotherusers.Forthesamereasontowpathsshouldencourage,throughsigns,educationandothermeans,sharedusethatisconsiderateofothersandgenerallyputstheneedsofothersfirstasapriorityratherthananyparticularcategoryassumingtheirownusehaspriority.Thisisanopportunityduetotheuniquenatureandoftenownershipofthesepaths.

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169 provisionforputtinginmooringpinshouldnotbelostwhenmakingimprovement 4/25/201410:37AM

170 Itshouldnotbeforgottenthattowpathswereoriginallyforcrewsfromboatsandwhilstwelcomingothervisitorsthismuststil lberemembered.

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171 Narrowboatswithoutpermanentmooringsshouldnotusethetowpathsasextrastoragespace. 4/25/20149:01AM

172 GoodcommunicationbetweenCRT andlocalauthoritytoensurecontinuityofroutessuchasforcyclistsandwalkerswhernotentirelyalongsidecanals

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173 thoseusingthetowpathhavearesponsibil itytowardsothersusers 4/25/20148:50AM

174 Guidanceandadvicetoanglers. 4/25/20147:36AM

175 Fishermenshouldnotbeallowedtoblocktowpathswiththeirrodspolesandequipment 4/25/20147:36AM

176 Boatersneedtorecognisethesharedusewhenerectingpostsandattachingl inestoholdthenarrowboatsalongsidethebank. 4/25/20147:20AM

177 Allusersofthetowpathshouldacceptthattheycannotoccupyawholeareaofatowpathfortheirsoleuse.Iamthinkingparticularlyofanglerswhohaverodsrightacrossthetowpathandimpedewalkersandcyclists,oftenforlongstretchesi fthereisacompetitiontakingplace,forinstance.Inmyexperience,boatersusuallytakeupasl i ttlespaceaspossibleandtrynottoencroachontheactualwalkway.

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178 Towpathsshouldconnectpeopletoplaces,playinganimportantroleaspartofwidersustainableandactivetravelnetworks 4/25/20146:25AM

179 Howwillguidelinesbemonitored? 4/25/20145:29AM

180 Asalluserswillcausewearofsomesort,allusersshouldcontributefinanciallytousingtowpathswhichwereoriginallyprovidedfortheuseofhorsedrawncanalboats.Thiscouldbedonebyl icences(egboaters,anglersetc)grouppayments(eganglingclubs,BritishCanoeUnion),localcouncilsthroughCouncilTaxetc.I'mcertainthatsome,i fnotallofthesesourcesofincomeareusedalready.

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181 Cantthinkofanythingatthispointintime 4/25/20144:20AM

182 Cyclistsandrunnersshouldbeobligedtoshowconsiderationforboatingcrewmembers,anglersandpedestrians.Theyshouldbeobligedtonotifytheirpresencetoslowerorstationeryusersandthentoawaitaclearandsafepassagebeforeproceeding.

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183 IrepresentalargegroupofridersinAiredale&Wharfedale.WearetryingtoraiseawarenessofthelossofaccessandtheimplicationsthattheCROWactisl ikelytobringtobear.WewereremovedasagroupfrompreviouslyheldTow[pathaccess.Itwasaveryimportantl ink.

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184 Asacyclisti tisimportantthatcyclistsfollowcommonsenserulesonsharedpathstowarnpedestriansandgivewaytopedestrians.

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185 Theyshouldbefitforpurposeforallpermitteduses 4/24/201411:13AM

186 Commitmenttoeaseofaccessforbikespushchairsandwheelchairs(notusingbarriers)Considerationgiventothepotentialproblemsofsharingwithe-bikes

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187 Allusersshouldbepreparedtoallowunhinderedusebyothers.Someanglersaredeliberatelyobstructive,especiallytocyclists 4/24/20149:22AM

188 Alltowpathusersshouldshowconsiderationtoothertowpathusers,thelocalareaandourwaterwayheritage. 4/24/20149:17AM

189 Conditionoftowpathsisofconcern,andIhavecomeacrossanumberofinstanceswheretowpathshavebeendeliberatelyblocked(byFarmersIsuspect).Ithinkaconcerniswhentheyareusedformotorisedtransport,suchasmotorbikesandquadbikes.

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190 Standardsfordogwalkers. 4/24/20148:19AM

191 Allusersareequalandshouldrespecteachother,theroute,andtheenvironment. 4/24/20148:06AM

192 Binsfordogwasteatstrategic placeswouldbegood 4/24/20145:30AM

193 Thattowpathsshouldbekepttoagoodstandardandalsoreinstatedwithoutexecptionforthelengthofcanal/navagbleriver. 4/24/20145:15AM

194 Morebinsfordogwaste 4/24/20144:46AM

195 Sharinginvolvescaring,sonoracingonthepaths,pedestrianshavepriorityovercyclists,butshouldalsoenablescycliststopasswherepossible.

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196 themessageofshareduseandcourtesyinrespectingothersusingthetowpathcannotbeoverpublic icsed 4/24/20143:26AM

197 1)Theconditionandsurfacingofthepathsiscriticallyimportantforanykindofuse.Apathsuitedtowalkersmightnotbegoodforcyclists2)Dogownersshouldinsurethattheirpetsareundercontrolatalltimesandthattheydonotleavefaecesonthepath

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198 Youshouldrecognisethattowpathsaretheonlysignificantcyclerouteinmanypartsofthecountryandlobbyforbudgettodevelopsuitablecyclingroutes.It'snotrightthatthecanalnetworkhastofindthemoneytofundcycleroutesthroughthebackdoor.Theproblemarisesbecausethecanalnetworkisoneofthefewbodiesthathastreatedcyclistsfairly.Nowyouneedotherpeopletohelpyoudothat.

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199 Thereshouldberegularremindersforuserstogivewaytootherusersinreverseorderofspeed.CyclistgivewaytoRunnersgivewaytoHorseridersgivewaytoWalkersi .e.cyclistsgivewaytorunners,ridersandwalkers(andI'macyclist!)

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200 Nothingtoodrastic andI'mnotsurethati tshouldbeaprincipleasasuchbutwhatevertheactivitiesarethatyouaregoingtocaterforneedtohaveproperfacil ities.Alotofeffortandmoneyisspentonprovidingfacil itiesforaccessforthedisabledwhoareverymuchaminoritygroupandnotasmuchfocusisspentonprovidingthesamelevelofservicetothefitandable.Forexample,cycleracks,provisionofbinstoputdogwasteetc.

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201 Pedestriansneedtounderstandthatabicyclebellmeans'Iamhere',somepedestrianscanbecomeangryandoccasionallyabusive,perhapsaggressiveandthreateningatthesoundofabell.Dogwalkersneedtocontroltheirdogsonalead(notoneofthoseextremely-longextensibleinvisiblethings).Ihavebeenforcedtodefendmyselffromadogthatchargedmeaggressivelyatthesightofmybicycle.

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202 thereallyimportantpointsareeasyaccesstoavarietyofusersandrespectforotherusers.thismaybeparticularlydifficultforthosegroupswhichmayhaveenjoyedaccesswithl i ttleneedtoshare.

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203 Inacountrywithsuchpoorcyclinginfrastructurei tisimportantTowpathsshouldbeavailableforcyclinguseandimprovedandmaintainedsoallbikescanusethemallyearround.

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204 Useofthetowpathsisarightforall. 4/23/20149:58AM

205 Singlefi leforcyclistsinbusyareas,useofabelltowarnotherpathusers.Dismountwhenrequiredforsafety.Treatothersasyouwishtobetreated.

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206 TheprincipleofSafeUseisveryimportantandparticularareaswhichIfeelneedtobeaddressedaretheaforementionedcyclingissues(speed,bells)andtheobstructionoftowpathsbyfishingpoles.

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207 Referencetopeoplewithhearingloss. 4/23/20149:04AM

208 Theyareoftenveryimportantroutesforsafercyclingandthisneedstoberecognised. 4/23/20147:55AM

209 LinkinwiththeSustransNetwork. 4/23/20147:05AM

210 Encourageandpromotediversityofusebyimprovementstohetowpaths 4/23/20146:59AM

211 Respectingtheneedsofwaterusers. 4/23/20146:54AM

212 Prioritytoboaters,andtheneedsof.Nofishingonlocklandings.Lockareasneedtobenocyclingareas.Asstoppinganddealingwith20tonofboat,withacyclistspeedingtowardsyouisdangerousandisonlyamatteroftimebeforesomeoneiskil led.

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213 Lookatwheresectionsareheavilyusedtoinvestigatefloatingpontoonsasawayofseparatingcycletraffic ,providingfast,uninterruptedl inks.

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214 Enforcementofprinciplesespeciallyuserswhorepeatedlydonotgiveway/floutguidelines 4/23/20146:13AM

215 Toooften,plannersseetowpathsasaeasywaytodisplacecycletraffic fromroads.Manycyclistsoncommuterrouteswantthespeedandconvenienceofproperonroadinfrastructure.Towpathsareagreatplacetobimblealongonthewaytothepubandwearehappytokeepthepacedownwhenweusetowpathsforthisreason.

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216 Morespecific questionstoavoidambiguousanswers.Whatdoes'brandingmean 4/23/20145:54AM

217 Seektoprovidegoodquality,joinedup,traffic freeroutesforcycling.Canalsprovideanidealinfrastructuretol inkcommunities,vil lagesandtownswithtraffic freeroutes,andcanprovidestressfreeroutesthroughurbanareas.

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218 shouldbemadeveryclearthatpedestriansalwaystakeabsolutepriority.cyclistsareeffectively*guests*andshouldbehaveassuch.

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219 Safetyandoverheadl ighting. 4/23/20145:36AM

220 Respectaboutcoversi tall-foreachother,forthecanal'shistory,forwildlife 4/23/20145:34AM

221 Infrastructureshouldbedesigned/placedsothati tprovidesforropesusedfortowing.Itjustlooksbetter... 4/23/20145:28AM

222 Itseemstomefromthenatureofthequestionsandthewaytheyarewordedthatthereissomeintentfromyoutomovecyclistsfrompathswherepossible.Ifthisisthecaseyourquestionsshouldbelesscryptic.

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223 Inpopularlocationsalternativeroutesshouldbeprovidedforwalkersandcyclists.Alonglargesectionsofthecanalnetworksharingthepathwithdifferenttypesofusersisn'taproblem.

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224 Concernsoverconflic tbetweendifferentusersare,inpart,becausepathshavenotbeenwidenedeventhoughtheycouldinmanyplacesbe.

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225 Aspecific codeofpriorityforusersshouldbepublic ised,thecodeofconductshouldbedisplayedalongtheroutesandanglersshouldbeforbiddentocrossthepathwaywiththeirpolesandtacklewhichshouldbeconfinedtothegrassedvergeareas

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226 Theresponsibil itiesofeachusergroupneedstobeclearlyidentified. 4/23/20144:57AM

227 Educationintheformofsignageforallusers. 4/23/20144:34AM

228 Theprinciplethati tisnottheslowerpeoplerighttosloweveryonedown.Considerationworksbothways,i fyouknowyouareslowbeawareofthosewantingtomovefaster.Beconsideratewhenusingabell,constantringingi ttogetpeopleoutofthewaywillonlyannoythem.

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229 Clearandvisibleguidelinesastoexpectedbehaviourfromalltowpathusers,currentsignsarenotvisibleorregularenough 4/23/20144:12AM

230 Moreattentionshouldbegiventoboatersneedsaboveotherusersastheyaretheoneswhopaytousethecanals 4/23/20143:59AM

231 Acommitmenttoimproveandopenupwaterwaysforallusers(takingintoaccountthelocalcontext)fortheirprimaryrolerole,transportation.

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232 Theupkeepofthepaths. 4/23/20143:48AM

233 Ithinkthecanalandrivernetworkshouldbebeingdesignedandoperatedasacontinuous,interconnectednetworskofhighqualitytraffic freeroutesforwalkersandcyclists.Theremovalofblockagesandimprovementstopathqualitywouldenablelong-distanceroutestobecreated,makingthenetworkadestinationini tsownright,ratherthanjustameansoftransport(whichdoingthiswouldalsoenable).

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234 Ithinkthatclearlymarkingtowpathswiththebluepedestrian/cyclesignsmeansthatpeopleareclearthatthey'reforshareduse-hopefullythiswillencouragepeopletobelessterritorialovertheirownrightsandmoreawareandconsiderateofthefactthatmanypeopleusethepathsindifferentways.Ithinkthetoneofthesignsisveryimportant-friendlyandinc lusivetohelpsetthetoneperhaps?

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235 Astowpathsareopentoanglers,walkers,cyclistsetc.i t'simportantthatthesigningaroundreflectsthisasmanytowpathsarebelievedtobejustforpedestriansandthere'salotoffrustrationbetweenotherpathusers(especiallycyclists).

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236 Moredogpoobins.lotsofsignswhichtellyouaboutsharingthespaceandwhatyoucanexpecttoencounter.Hardsurfaceforalltowpaths.Moresignageforeverythingandputthetowpathsonmapsandguides.

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237 CodeofConductforwalking,cyclingetc -basedaroundanunderstandingofothers'needs 4/23/20142:35AM

238 Sharingshouldbeemphasised 4/23/20142:30AM

239 BUT i t'sjustveryimportanttorealisethattheyaresharedspaces,andpeoplewillbeonthemfordifferentpurposes,travell ingatdifferentspeeds.

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240 Assessshouldbepromotedfroaswidergroupofpeopleaspossible. 4/23/20142:16AM

241 Allhavetherighttousethetowpath. 4/23/20142:09AM

242 Provisionofadequate(butnotconspicuous)signagewherevercanalsandtheirtowpathscrossroadsandintersectwithotherrights-of-way.

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243 Youshouldnotwaitforthelawtocatchup-openthespacesyouhaveforeveryonetojoin-publishacodeofconduct(forcyclingrefertotheNewForestcyclingcode)-butexpandtoanglers(backcasting)horsesandamust-dogcontrolandcleanup.

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244 Towpathsshouldbeconstructedtoalloweasymooringofboats-don'tforgettheboatersastheyputthemostmoneyintotheCanalandRiverTrust.

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245 Yes.It'sasharedspaceandnoonegroupuserhasspecialrightsoveranyother.Theanglerdoesnot'own'hisbitoftowpathjustbecausehehasboughtafishingl icense,thepedestrianhasnorighttobeangryataconsideratecyclistjustbecausetheyarethere,andacyclisthasnorighttoplowonregardlessjustbecausepeoplewon'tgetoutoftheway.

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246 Justanotherl ineaboutsafetysopeoplerunning/walking/cyclingcanpasseachotherwithoutdangeroffall ingin! 4/23/20141:06AM

247 CanalandRiverTrustneedtohavesanctionsagainstthosewhobehavebadly 4/23/201412:31AM

248 Youshouldnotbeexcludinghorseaccess 4/23/201412:28AM

249 Theprinciplethatconsultationsshouldbewritteninunambiguouslanguageandinc ludetheoptionofdisagreeing,notjustexpressingthatsomethinghasl i ttleimportance.Thisconsultationgivestheimpressionofbeingameaninglessexercise.

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250 Veryregularmaintenanceoftowpathswhichrunthrougharesidentialarea,especiallyinwetoricyweather.Lightingconsiderationswherepossible.

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251 Funding,introduceanannualpass(keeppric ingsensible)tousethetowpathstogeneratethefundstoupgradeandimproveMayoftheruralpaths,introducefamilyroutesincorporatingpubcafestopsalongthewaytoencouragepeopletobuyintothenewopportunitiestowpathoffer.

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252 Moveawayfromthemultiuseideatotargeteduse. 4/22/201410:42PM

253 EQUALITY!No-oneshouldhaveaperceptionof'priority'overotherusers.ACCESS&EDUCATION:manypeoplesimplydon'tencounteralotofwheelchairusersorblind/deafpeople.Insteadoflecturingpeopleandhaving'codes'thatfewpeoplewillread,signageeducatingpeoplewouldbemorehelpful.STAYONTHELEFT:Ihadacollisionbecauseanapproachingcyclistapproachedontherightofthepath,thenveeredallovertheplacewhenItriedtomoveoutofherway.Asimple,'keepleft'rule(asperUKroadpractice)mayhavepreventedi t.IntheUSAmanypathshave'keepright'signsandtheyareveryhelpful,especiallyforvulnerableusers.COMMUNICATION:cyclists,runnersandfastwheelchairusersshouldcallout'passingonyourright/left'whenapproachingpeoplefrombehindorblindpeoplefromanydirection.LEAVESPACEFORPEOPLETOPASS:wealltravelatdifferentspeedswhateverformoftransportweuse.Blockingtheentirewidthofthepathisrudeanddangerous.UNDERSTANDWHAT ACYCLEBELLMEANS:manypedestriansseemtothinki tmeans'getthe****outofmy*******way'.Itsimplymeans'abikeisapproachingfrombehind,leavespacetopass'andisactuallyveryconsiderateasi tisfortheirsafety.Manypedestriansreactincorrectlywhentheyhearabellbecauseofthisperceptionthattheyareinsomewayaggressive.Manywillmovesideways,assumingthebellwasanorderforthemtodoso,evenwhentheywereinasafespotatthesideofthepathandthecyclistjustneededthemtostaythere.Again,codesandunenforceableruleswillnothelp-educationandgoodsignswill.NOPATRONISING:treatdisabledpeopleequally.Sometimes,Iuseawheelchair,butcanbequitesprightly.Itisnotonlyotherpeoplewhoarearisktome,Icanbearisktothem.Makingallmessagesabout'evilcyclistsneedingtoslowdownforthosepoordisabledandelderlypeople'isunhelpful,unrealistic andfrankly,bloodystupid.Someoldpeopleflyaroundontheirbikes,somedisabledpeoplechargeaboutinourwheelchairs.Let'snotbekil l joys,butgetrealandgivePOSITIVEmessages.EndlessDONOT XorPEDESTRIANPRIORITYsignscreateanunequalandconfrontationalenvironment.Justbecausesomethingorsomeonepissesyouoff,i tdoesnotentitleyoutodemandaslewofdrabanddepressingsignageandpettyrestrictions.Asignthatsaid'let'sallenjoythispathsafely'wouldhaveamuchgreaterimpact.Onebecomesblindtonegativeboringsigns.Onesthatareinteresting,havealocaltheme(e.g.Writteninalocaldialect)andthatmakeyousmileHAVEMOREIMPACT!!Seriously,i fyousawasignsaying'Ayuplove,gi'ussomespace.Taflower'wouldyouyouforgeti t?

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254 Thatthetowpathsexistprincipallytosupportboatingactivity,andthatotherusersshouldbeawareofthisanddefertoboatersasappropriate.

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255 Clearlyprintedrulesforalltypesofaccess,inc ludingspeedl imitsforcyclistsetc,finesforthosewhoflaunttherules.Includinganglerswhocanstopothersfrompassingsafely.

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256 Cyclistsshouldhaveabell. 4/22/20143:37PM

257 Recognisingthatsometowpathshavebeenneglectedforupto50years,whereverpossibleovergrownanderodedtowpathsshouldberestoredtoandmaintainedinaserviceablecondition.

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258 Non-cyclistvisitorsusingtowpathsshouldremainawarethattheremaybecyclistsusingthetowpath.Walkersespeciallymightconsidertheirresponsibil itiestoensurefairuseofthefacil itybykeepingdogsundercontrol(notnecessarilyonaleash)andgivingwaytocyclistswherereasonable.Notallcyclistsareadeptandcyclingnexttothewaterwaycanbehazardous,especiallyforyoungsters.Allvisitorsshouldconsidernotusingmp3players/earphones/headphones.

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259 Thereshouldbeacodeofconductwithguidelinespublishedandavailableatkeyaccesspointstoadviseusersoftherequirements.

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260 Iaminfavouroftowpathsbeingusedbywalkers,bicyclesandhorses.Althoughmotorbikesshouldnotbeallowed,obstaclesputtopreventthemcanhinderpramsandbuggys,trailersbehindbicyclesforchildrenandhorses.

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261 Allusersshouldavoidblockingthetowpathatalltimes.Forexamplei facyclistisrepairingapuncturetheyshouldmakesureotherpeoplecanpassthemsafelywithouthavingtogoaroundthem.Alsoanglersshouldnotbeallowedtoblockthetowpathswiththeirpolesetc.Ihavebeenontowpathswithmychildrenwhohavebeenshoutedatbyanglersforsteppingoverthefishingkitleftacrossthepath.Thealternativewasforyoungchildrentohangaroundandmakeanoiseorgonearthebanktogetpast.

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262 Towpathsandriverpathsneedtoberecognisedaskeyroutesconnectingcitiesandvil lages.ThepriorityshouldbetodeveloptheseroutestoprovidehighqualitywidegoodsurfacesthatencourageUKtousethem.Fromasocietypointofview,oldrailtracksarebeingrepurposedassharedpathsandi tisimportanttorecognisetheresourcethattheriverandcanalpathsprovide.Theyareakeywayforpeopletocommuteandconnectwiththeirsurroundingcountrysideandneedtobedevelopedtoahighstandard.Ifneededpathsthatgounderlowbridgesneedtobewidenedatasacrificetothewidthofthebridge.Aslongasi tispossibletogetonecanalboatthroughthegapatatime.

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263 Priorityshouldbegiventogivingexcellentmaintainanceofwhatistherealreadyandinasimpathetic waytothehistoricalsetting.Weshouldnotbemakingvasturbanising"improvements"forthesakeofincreasingthevisitors,obtainingmorefundingortryingtobetrendyand"inclusive".

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264 Emphasisonresponsiblesharing. 4/22/20142:21PM

265 Yes,inurbanenvironmentsourwaterwaysprovideunderusedanddirectroutesbetweenotherwisedisconnectedcommunities.Canalsshouldnotjustbeseenasaquaintleisuredestinationbutshouldbeaneverydaypartofcityl i fe.

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266 Iridealotofroadcyclingsportives,andthinkasamatterofprinciplethattowpathsshouldonlybeallowedtobeusedonroadoroffroadeventsbyspecialpermission.Otherwisetowpathsshouldonlybeusedforsharedmutuallyrespectfuluse.

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267 Considerationforotherusersofthecanalbyanglers-especiallyduringcompetitions.Attimesonecantravelforhundredsofyardsstoppingandstartingwhilethey(oftenreluctantly)movetheirtackle

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268 Sharedusecanonlybeharmoniousi fallusersbehavecourteously.Thismustbetheprincipalaimandunderstandingofusers. 4/22/20141:40PM

269 Thereisarecommendationtokeepdogsonashortlead,withwhichIagree.Perhapstherecouldalsobeinc ludedsomewheretheneedtoshowrespectfordogsonthetowpathandallowownerstimetoensuretheyareoutofthewayofpassingbikes,runnersetc.

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270 Respectandpenaltiesforpeoplecaughtl i ttering.Thecanalisnotadumpingground.ThoughIwelcomepeopleenjoyinganalcoholic drinktorelax,i tisnotaplacetopound6cansandthrowtheminabush.

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271 Morefocusondangerscreatedbyusers,suchasdogsrunninglooseafterrunnersandcyclists. 4/22/20141:39PM

272 Morerecognitionthatcyclistsexistaswellaspedestrians. 4/22/20141:33PM

273 I'mnotsure,butIguessi t'sallaboutbeingconsideratetoothersusers,whetheryou'rewalkingorcyclingorindeedboating. 4/22/20141:10PM

274 Towpathsshouldnotbepartofanynationalorlocalcyclingnetworkunlesscyclistsandpedestrianscanbekeptapart,sharedpathsalwaysleadtoconflic t.Cyclingisnotastrangekindofwalking,i t'safasteffic ientformoftransport.

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275 Dogsshouldbemuchbettercontrolledthanisthecaseatpresent. 4/22/20141:05PM

276 Accessrightsforcyclists 4/22/201412:57PM

277 Whilstclearlypedestrianshavepriorityoncanalpathstheyareanimportantrouteforcyclists.Peoplecanbeveryfunnyaboutthisandrefusetomoveoutofthewayevenwhenyouareveryslowandpersonallyaskpolitely.Itwouldbehelpfulissomeeffortwasbitintoemphasingthati t'simportantforcycliststooandtheytoodeserverespect

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278 Improvethelanguage;severalofthemarehardtounderstandatthemoment. 4/22/201412:40PM

279 Considerationgiventoprotectingtowpathsfrombecomingcoveredinthornsafterhedgecutting.Puncturesevery400marenotfunny.

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280 Iamakeencyclist,walkerandIusedtol iveaboardanarrowboatasacontinuouscruiser...Ithinkfirstpriorityshouldgototheboatersandpeoplewhol iveonthecanal.Theviewsofthosewholoveoncanalarethemostimportant...Otherusersshouldrespectthewaysofthewaterways...Bepeacefulandrespectful...LifeissloweronthewaterwAys.

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281 Makei tsimlerforcasualcanaluserstocontributetocanalcosts.Iusecanalsafewtimesamonthandlovetheenvironmentbutwouldl iketocontributetomaintencewithoutbeingtiedtoasubscription

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282 Segregationofactivitiestoavoidconflic tbetweenusersinasharedspace. 4/22/201412:21PM

283 Nomentionhasbeenmadeofaccestoroutesbydisabledpersonsinwheelchairsoronelectric scooters. 4/22/201412:20PM

284 Peopleshouldbemadeawarethattheynottheonlyonesusingthetowpathandshouldtakeresponsibil ityforthieractions 4/22/201411:47AM

285 Promotetheprincipleofshareduse. 4/22/201411:34AM

286 Recommendationofmutualgivingway,assomepedestrianscanbeobstructivetocyclists 4/22/201411:33AM

287 IfthesequestionsareanexampleyoucoulddowithlessonsinclearEnglishandhowtoaskquestionsthataren'tjustdesignedtogetpredeterminedresponses.

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288 Emphasisonhistoricalplacesofinterest.MakingalleffortstoopenupdisusedwaterwaysEncouragingallmeanstomovefreightbythewaterways

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289 Dogsonshortleads...headphonesoff... 4/22/201411:15AM

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290 Moreawarenesstonoviceandyoungercycliststhatridetoofastonsharedtowpaths.AsamaturecyclistandamemberoftheCTC,moreshouldbedoneabouttherightsofcyclingalongtowpathsandthedangerstopedestrians.

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291 thattowpathsrepresentavitalsafe,traffic free,networkofroutesinandout,andbetweenmanyofourmajorcitiesandthisnetworkshouldbeprotectedandmaintainedaspartofasustainabletransportpolicyforeveryurbanarea.

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292 Cyclistsshouldbepolitelyaskedbysignagetogivewaytopedestriansatnarrowandpoor-sightedpassingplaces.Cyclistsshouldnotexpectmorevulnerabletowpathuserstojumpoutoftheirwaybyringingbellsandshouldslowtopasssafely.

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293 Seemycomments.Towpathsaredesignedasworkingroutesandshouldbepromptedassaferoutesforallpathusersandespeciallyasasafenetworkforusersawayfromroads.Generallyallpathusersneedtohavebetterunderstandingoftheissuestheycauseforotherpathusers.Howeversinglingoutasingletypeofpathuserisnotsensible:Pedestriansdon'tconsiderhorses,bikesorotherpedestriansandoftendon'tmakeway.CyclistspasstooclosetootherusersDogwalkersallowtheirpetstousethewholepathandhavetheirleadstretchedacrossi t,alsoallowingtheirpettofoulpaths.HorseridersexpecttousetheentirepathandtearuppathsbadlyFishermenblockthewholepathwithroadsandtackle.Thisisamulti-userproblemnotasingleproblemfromasingleusergroup.

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294 ThattimedroutesalongcanaltowpathsshouldbeeliminatedbydialoguewiththeprovidersofsuchinformationsuchasStrava,Garminetc

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295 Towpathsshouldnotbeinc ludedintheSustransNationalCyclingNetworkofcyclepaths,whiletheymaybepermissive,theyareoftennotsuitableasautil itariancycleroute,ie,commuting,andgeneralgettingaround.

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296 Cyclistshavetobegivenfairaccessandrecoginition. 4/22/20149:37AM

297 Ifthesearetobebusy,wellusedroutes,thenfurthersustainablypoweredl ightingisanimportantmeasure. 4/22/20149:33AM

298 Wouldspeedsensorswork-somethingthatflashsesupacyclistsspeed,perhapswithareccomendationforasafespeedtopasspedestrians,andasafespeedwhentherearenopedestriansnearby?

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299 Wheni tisnecessarytoclosetowpathsegduetocollapseorworkbeingcarriedoutdiversionsshouldbeclearlysignposted 4/22/20148:30AM

300 Notallowinglaunchingofcanoes.Ensuringbikersspeedl imitsareenforced.Provisionofcarparkingforaccess 4/22/20148:28AM

301 sharedusemeanseverybodyrespectseverybodyelse,bigproblemintheageofthecar. 4/22/20146:32AM

302 Towpathsareavitalresourceforcyclistswhoneedsafe,convenientandpleasantroutes. 4/22/20144:59AM

303 Anunambiguousstatementthatalongsideandequallyimportanttootheruses,towpathsareimportantpartsofthecyclenetwork. 4/22/20144:56AM

304 Goodsignposting,e.g.tocafes,localpubs,railwaystations/'busstops.Segregatedprovisionforanglersinsomelocations..........theyjustwantpeaceandquiet.Attentiontosurfacesunderover-bridges.Theremaybemore.........ifIhadtimetothink.

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305 Unlessi tissomethingaboutclearerdefinitionandidentificationoftowpaths-i .e.whatandwhotheyarefor 4/22/20141:42AM

306 Slowertravellersalwayshaverightofway. 4/22/20141:08AM

307 Thatpedestriansandwheelchairusersshouldbegivenpriorityovercyclistsandjoggers 4/21/20144:51PM

308 Ithinki t'sworthreadingintotheproblemsofsharedspaces-fundamentallytheycreateconflic t.Conflic tbetweenpedestriansandequestriansandcyclists-completelysegregatedspaceisthebestsolution.AsanexampletheSustrans"network"failsforthesamereasons....Thisisworthconsidering:http://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com/2014/04/shared-space-revisited-hype-continues.html

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309 Buildingoverthewatershouldbeconsideredincaseswherei tisthebestoptionforallothergoals 4/21/20141:44PM

310 Marshland,woodlandandopenspaceswillnotbedamagedtomakecanalsmoreaccessibleetc 4/21/20141:36PM

311 IfthereisaneedtocloseaTowpathtemporarilyformaintenanceofotherpurposesanalternativerouteneedstobeclearlysignposted.Towpathsshouldbeavailableforrecreationaluserswhereverpossible.(IhavenowishforthemtobededicatedRightsofWaygiventheprovisoabove).TowpathswithwalkingaccessshouldbeclearlyindicatedonOSMaps,manycanals(egGrandUnion)havetowpathsshownasawalkingrouteandensuringotherroutesaremappedcouldbepartofthebrandingexercise.

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312 Morerecognitionthatthesearepublic spacestobeusedfreelybyallpeopleaslongastheydon'timpactontheuseandenjoymentofothers.

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313 Effortsshouldbemadetodevelopalocalgroupforeachsectionoftheroutes,whichactivelyengagesthelocalpeopleindeliveryofthehigheststandardsofoperationandambienceforthiersection.

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314 Wewishtoaccommodatethecyclingrevolution.Weseecanalsasalandaswellaswaterbasedarterythroughthecommunitiestheyserve.

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315 Provideseparateroutesforcyclists-awayfromthetowpath!Anglingcontributesthel ionsshareofthemoniesreceivedbyCARTinrelationtothecanal,butgetstreatedl ikeapoorrelation-boaters,dogwalkers,andcyclistsallcontributel i ttleornothingincomparisontoangling.Carparksarealwaysfullofboaterscars!Boatersoutstaytheirmooringrightsforweeksonend.CART doeslittleto'movethemon',despitebeinginformed.

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316 Thereisnojustificationforapolicywhichexcludeshorseridingontowpathsonanationallevel.Insteadriskassessmentsshouldbecompletedonallsectionsofcanaltowpathforusebybothcyclistsandhorseriders.Theaimshouldbetoallowbothactivitiesunlessthereissubstantialevidencetosuggestthatanyriskcreatedbycycleorhorseuseoutweighstheriskcreatedbythoseusergroupsusingadjacentmotorroads.Inotherwordsthenationalpolicyshouldbetailoredtolocalneedsandcircumstancessothatlivesarenotputatriskbyanationalbureaucracy.

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317 IthinkSHAREDusepathsdon'twork.Therewillbeconflic tbetweendogwalkersandcyclists,forexample.Itshouldberecognisedthattowpathswillbeusedforcycliststocommute.

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318 Thepossibil ityofwideningtow-pathsattheexpenseofcanaltraffic . 4/21/201410:20AM

319 Ithinkyoucouldbemoreexplic itaboutspeedingcyclistsandrequireallcyclesusingatowpathtobefittedwithabellorhooter. 4/21/201410:10AM

320 Tomuchfocusonleadingthesurveyedtowardspromotingshareduseattheneglectofcyclists:"disenfranchisethemtowardstheroad".

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321 Moreworktoreinstallbackdrainageshouldbeundertaken. 4/21/20149:09AM

322 Any'alternatives'shouldbetraffic free.Whereworkontowpathsisrequiredclosureisseenasalastresortandeveryeffortismadetoprovidediversionnoticesandadvancewarnings.

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323 Signagestatingaspeedl imittocyclistssoastonotturnatranquilareaintoashortcutracetrack.AlotofboatownersusebikesandverysensiblecyclistsbutthisisnotafreeforallAlsodogsshouldbecontrolledandnotwithlonghardlyvisibleleadswhicheasilycausesotherstofallpossiblyintothewatet.

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324 Towpathsandcyclingshouldbeencouragedasmuchaspossible.IusetheLeedsLiverpoolcanaltocommuteintoLeeds.oftenineverseeanyotherusersapartfromcyclistsespinthemornings.Eveningscanbedifferentbuttheslowerpaceisapriceworthpayingforatraffic freecommute.

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325 Towpathsshouldbecontinuous24/7notgatedorrestricted. 4/21/20148:33AM

326 Bothdirectionalandbehaviouralsignagecanplayabiggerroleonourtowpaths-bothintermsoflettingpeopleknowwherethecanalmightleadthem,butalsointermsoftheimportanceofsharingconsiderately.Asasuper-consideratecyclistwhoridesgently,ringshisbellpolitelyandoftentriestospeaktopeopleIampassing,Iamfrequentlybamboozledbyrunnersandjoggerswhowearheadphonesonthetowpath,whocanthearmeandwhichleadstotheincreaseofacollision.Sharingisatwowaystreet.

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327 Swimmingincanalsshouldbepermitted,andfacil itatedwherefeasible.Openwaterswimmingisagrowingsport,swimmersshouldnotbeleftout.

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328 Historyandsignagedisplay,guidanceofuseshouldbeprominentlydisplayedalongroutes.EMERGENCYNO.STOOsopoachingcanbecountered.

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329 Thattowpathaccessshouldbepreservedforallusers.Horseorcycle(bridleway)accessshouldnotberestrictedunlessonsafetygroundsthatcanbeproven.

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330 Towpathsareusedbyverymanydogwalkersandquiterightly.Ifeelthattherearenotenoughdogwastebinsalongmanytowpathsandthereforetheissueofdiscardedfullpoobagsisaproblemaswellasdogwastethatisjustnotclearedup.Ihavealsonoticedanewhabitofscoopingthedogwastedirectlyintothecanal.

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331 AGovernmentinitiativetopromotetowpathwalkingandthebenefitsofi tbackedbyanationaladvertisingcampaign. 4/20/201412:37AM

332 Primaryconcernistheconditionoftowpaths. 4/19/20142:18PM

333 Localpeopleandgroupsshouldbeencouragedtoadoptasectionofcanaltoenablethemtoreportantisocialbehaviourandtokeepthatsectionclearofl i tteretc.

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334 Dogownersshouldcleanupaftertheirpets,peopleshouldtidyuptheirl i tterandfacil itiesshouldbeprovidedtoaccommodatethese

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335 Principlesshouldbeappliedwithflexibil ityaccordingtocircumstances 4/19/20141:48AM

336 Morepositiveregardfordogs.Onsomecanalsi tisappropriatefordogstoremainonshortleadsandnotenterthewater,inotherplacesthisisnotreallynecessary.Walkingthedogisaprimecontributortomentalandphysicalwellbeingformanyofthepopulationandamorepositiveattitudefromoffic ialdomisneeded-whichmightmakei teasiertoenforce(offic iallyorpsychologically)thoseoccasionswhenrestrictionsareneeded.Moreattentiontothedistinctionsbetweenruralandurbantowpaths.'Headphones"commentisnotsuffic ientlynuanced-theprobleml ieswhenbothearshavephoneson/inThere'snothingmuchaboutsignage.Informationaboutdistancesisveryusefulgiventhel inearnatureoftowpaths.

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337 Wheretowpathsarenarrowandhaveapoorsurfacemulti-useshouldbediscouraged 4/18/201411:26AM

338 Ifi tistobeasharedroutei tMUST besigned.Cyclistsshouldbeadvisedtoringbell&slow.Walkersmustbeaware&notwanderaimlessly.Dogsshouldbecontolled.Leadscanalsobeadanger

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339 Thesafetyoftowpathusers.Condition,signage,codesofconduct. 4/18/20149:31AM

340 Commitmenttomaintainingcanalandtowpathingoodcondition. 4/18/20148:55AM

341 Thereshouldbeaspeedl imitforcyclists 4/18/20148:07AM

342 Towpathsthroughcitiesandtownsshouldbemaintainedforalltypesofuser,andkeptassafeaspossibleforthoseusersandboaterspassingthroughonthecanal.

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343 Alltowpathsshouldbeallweatherwhichmeanssprayedandchipped.Moneyiswasteddoinguptowpathsunlesstheyaresprayedandchipped.

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344 TohaveadefiniteprogramfortheremovalofforexamplesunkenderelictvesselsWeirsideatStocklockRiverTrenthassuchaneyesoreatrheattowaterfowlandotherwildl i fe

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345 originalorsympathetic materialsshouldbeusedforrepairswherepossible 4/18/20145:28AM

346 Iwouldl iketoseeonthepartsofthecanalsandriverscommonwithfishermen,noticesrequestingthemnottodiscardtheirl inesetc.thesei temscancauseconsiderableinjuryandsufferingtowaterbirdswhichfrequenttheseplaces.

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347 Towpathaccess-Iwouldl iketoseesomethingaboutaccesspoints.Thisisbecauseinmanycasestheaccesspointsarebadlymaintained(bytheCouncilsinmanycasesastheadjacentlandowners!),egbarriershavegraffitionthem,therearenosignsaboutdogwalkres/foulingProvisionforl i tter-atrickyoneIknowbutIwouldl iketoseementionofl i tterprovisionataccesspoints

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348 Restrictionsbeputinplacetodissuademotorcyclesfrombeingabletousetowpaths.Itisbothunsafepracticeandannoying 4/18/20142:01AM

349 Needtoprotectbeautifulandscenic partsofthehistoric networkfrombeingdespoiledbynear-permanentencampmentsofsquattersinderelictbarges.Suchencampmentsprovideathreateningandabusiveexperienceforothercanalusersforcedtonegotiatestored/dumpedbelongings,occupantsundertheinfluenceofdrugsandalcohol,uncontrolleddogsandcanineandhumanexcrement.

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350 Anglingoncanalsissufferingbecauseofmultipleuse.Mostcanaltowpathscannoteasilyaccommodatemultipleuseandthemorethisispromotedthemoreproblemswillarise.Cyclingisaparticularproblemforallusers.Manywalkersfindl i tteranddogdirtoffensivewhichdetractsfromtowpathuse

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351 Theruleswillhavetobepoliced?Howcanthatbedone? 4/17/20149:43PM

352 Thatthetowpathsandwaterwaysareprimarilyforboatersandthatallotherusersshouldbeawareoftheiroriginandpromotionofthat.

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353 Noone(especiallymooredboats)shouldusethetowpathasanextentionoftheircraft.Thetowpathshouldbekeptclearatalltimes.Dogsshouldbekeptundercontrolatalltimesandnotallowedtoharassotherusers,noteveryoneisadogfan.

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354 ThereshouldbeaprinciplethatwheresuitablecanaltowpathsshouldbeopentoALLnonmotorisedusersinc ludinghorseriders 4/17/20142:20PM

355 Towpathsarearelativelynaturalhaveninanetworkoftransportroutesthataremuchlessorientedtowardsthesurvivalofflora&fauna.Thereshouldbeaprinciplethatpreservesthisstatus,inc lusiveofmeanstopreventl i tter,degradationthroughoveruse,excessivenoiseandsoforth.

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356 Dogsshouldbekeptonleads(unlessonboats)DogfoulingisoneofthemostseriousproblemsonsomeofthetowpathsIwalkregularlyandoffendingownersshouldbeseverelypunishedi fcaught.Dogwastebinsshouldbeprovidedatthemostpopularandaccessiblespots

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357 Acommitmenttomaintainthetowpathsatalevelsuitableforlocalusersaspreviouslyidentified.Asasourseofpleasure,healthpromotionandeducationtheyareunequalled

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358 Ifcyclingistocontinuethenmuchmoreemphasisshouldbegiventocarefulandsafecycling. 4/17/201412:54PM

359 Backintheday,BritishWaterwayshadaslogan'Waterwaysforall '.Whatshouldnotbeforgottenisthati tistheboatownersthatpaythe'l ionsshare'fortheupkeepoftowpaths.

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360 dogsshouldbeonaleadatalltimes-theyoftenseemthreatenedbypeoplesteppingfromaboatinalock,say,andthiscanbedangerous-canaltowpathsarenotdogtoiletsmoreseriously-i tshouldbeaprinciplethatallboatusershaveahomemooringwhichispaidforand'continuousmoorers'shouldberemoved-theirremovalwould,atastroke,improvethetowpathenvironmentalso,1in20boatsunlicensedisfarfromacceptableandshouldnotbejustifiedasasuccessl i tterisanotherthingthatspoilsenjoymentofthetowpath

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361 Thecanalswerecreatedfornavigation.Thisshouldbemaintainedasapriority. 4/17/201412:11PM

362 Iftowpathsmustbesharedtheyshouldbeacertainwidthanddivided,l ikepavementsonthecontinent<intoonesidecyclingandtheotherpedestrian.

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363 Cyclistsshouldhaveabelltoringwhenapproachingwalkerssotheyareawareoftheirapproachanddon'tstepintotheirway.I'vehadafewnearmisses.

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364 Acommitmenttokeeptowpathsfreeofl i tter 4/17/201411:47AM

365 Cyclistsshouldhaveabellandusei t. 4/17/201411:17AM

366 Dogl i tterbinsareprovidedalongthestretchofcanalIuseregularlyandasadogwalkerandregularuserofthetowpathIthinkcleaningafteryourdogisextremelyimportantbothtootherpeopleandthewildlifethatmakesthecanalnetworktheirhome.Ithinkthereshouldbesomeonewhocanpolicethetowpaths(maybethewaterbailiffi ftherestil lisone)tohandoutfinestopeoplewhodon'tcleanupaftertheirdog.I'msuremostpeoplewouldn'tminddonatingtowardsthisexpenditure,attheveryleasttheCRT couldpromotea'CleanUpAfterYourPooch'campaigntoraiseawareness.

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367 speedl imitforcyclesbellsmustbefittedandwalkers/hikerstohaveprioritymostcyclistsareverygoodBUT thereareafewwhothinktheyownorhavetherighttoforce/pushboaters/walkersoutoftheirway

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368 Boatersusingthetowpathforaccessandovernightmooring 4/17/201410:46AM

369 AstipulationthatcyclistsshouldNotexceedacertainspeed.Manyisthetimewehavenearlybeenmowndownbycycliststravell ingMUCHMUCHtoofast,andpedestrianspresencealmostseemsl ikeanuisancetothem.

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370 Noticestell ingcycliststogivewaytopedestrians! 4/17/201410:05AM

371 Theprincipleofleavingonlyfootprints,nol i tter,nodogmess.WhereIl iveontheLeedsLiverpoolatBramleydogmessisabigproblem,butnobinsareprovidedfordisposal.Muchmessthathasbeenpickedupproperlyisthendiscardedforsomereason,thatIcanonlyseeastoofewdisposalpoints,especiallyinurbanareas.

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372 Theprinciplesobviouslyhavealotofthoughtbehindthembuttheyreallyneedexplanationsorexamplestoclarifythissurvey. 4/17/20149:56AM

373 Allpeopleusingthetowpathsorwaterwaysystemhavearightofnotbeingthreatenedorbulliedbyanyoneelseusingthetowpathorwaterwaysystem.

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374 Peoplewhopermanentlyl ive(i l legallyIassume)ontowpathsMUST beremoved.MooringupstreamofTeddingtonLockisfor24hoursonly.Therehavebeenpeopletherefor4-5years.Itisanabsolutedisgrace.Theareaisnowunsafeforusebylegitimatetowpathuserseg.runners,walkers,anglers,cyclistsetc andisfullofpollution,drugparaphenalia,discardedbarbeques,humaneffluentandthreatsbythosewhol ivethere.Allcredibil ityofanyagencyl inkedtothisareaisfundamentallyandincreasinglyirrepairablydamaged.

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375 Promotionofuseoftowpathsforexercise-cycling,running.Accessibil ityforwheelchair,pushchairusers. 4/17/20147:19AM

376 Importanceofmaintainingthetowpathtotherightstandardtoensuresafeaccess.Sectionsthatarenotmaintainedproperlyareverymuddyalmostallyearround.Thissignificantlyrestrictthewidthofusablepathinthesesections.

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377 accesspointsneedtobehighlightedandwherepossibleparkingprovidedforusers. 4/17/20146:08AM

378 Cyclistshouldbemadedismountwhenpassingboats,walkers&fishermen.Rulesonhowthetowpathisusedsholudbepostedateachaccesspoint.

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379 Cycleridersshouldbeinstructedtousetheirbellsorshoutonapproachtoothertowpathusers.otherwisetheycouldbeadangeraswouldhorses(seeabove)

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380 Decentsurfaceonalltowpaths. 4/17/20143:50AM

381 Iagreewithyour"Dropyourpace"principlebutIthinkthereoughttobeastatementtotheeffectthatslowerusersofapathshouldnotobstructfasterusers.e.g.agroupofeightofusrecentlywalkedalongtheBreconCanaltwoweeksagoandwelookoutforcyclist,joggersandfasterwalkerstoallowthemthrough.

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382 Acoordinatedplantousetowpathsaspartofawidertraffic freenetworkforwalkingandcycling,especiallyinandaroundurbanareas.

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383 Canalsveryoftenformchannelsofgreenspaceinurbanareas.Thetowpathsandfacil itiesassociatedwiththemshouldreflectthesocialneedforquiet(er)spaceawayfromtraffic andbusyurbancentres.

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384 Askingpeoplesopinions 4/17/20141:11AM

385 Boatingneedsshouldineverysituationtakeprecedenceoverwildlife.Thisisamanmadearena. 4/16/20149:18PM

386 IhaveseentheproposedTowpathCodeanddetectabiasini t.ThefocusappearstobeonpedestriansandissueswithcyclistsandIwholeheartedlyagreewiththepriorityofpedestriansovercyclists.However,thereisnomentionofboaters.Thebiggestproblemboatersfaceiswithcyclistsandthen,atamuchlowerlevel,withpedestrians.Themajorproblemwithcyclistsisatwaterpointswheretherideoverhosepipesorabuseboaterswhentheyhavehosepipesoverthetowpath.Thesecondproblemisduringmooringwhencrewareworkingwithropestoholdandthenmoortheboatandcyclistsdemandingthatcrewgetoutoftheway.Forboaters,thereareusuallyfewproblemswithpedestriansbut,inmyexperience,theseusuallyoccuratlocksandlandlandingswheretheygetinintheway.IbelievethattheTowpathCodemustacknowledgethatboatersaccesstowpathsaswellandthattherearetimeswhenboatersmusthavepriority(forexampleatwaterpointsandwhenmooring).AnglersMUST bestoppedfromdiggingoutwaterwaybanksidesfortheirfishingplatforms.Anglersarebyfartheworstforabuseofboaters.Theyneedtolearnthattheydon'townthewaterway.

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387 Removalofbarriersforcyclistsonandofftowpathssotheyaremoreaccessibletocyclistswithwiderhandlebars,kidsonchildseats;trailersandcargobikes,tandems,recumbentsetc.IncreasedwidthforsaferpassingofpedestriansImprovedresistancetofloodingofthetowpath

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388 Boatover'steam'priority.ieprincipalcanaluseshouldhavepriorityincertainconditions,butnotexclusivity 4/16/20141:02PM

389 Theprinciplethattowpathsareallcapableoftheactivitiesyouaredesiringandthisissimplynottrue.Manytowpathsarenotsuitableforcyclingormixedactivitiesandunderthe1968transportactonlyboatingandanglingaretobeprovided.

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390 Dogsshouldbeonaleadinwellusedareas. 4/16/201410:49AM

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391 AllusersmustrespectotherUsersspaceontowpath.Dogsshouldbeunderdirectcontrolandcyclistsmustbemadetogivewaywhennecessaryandbeencouragednottospeedortorace.

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392 Boaters,canoes&kayakersrespectforbanksideusersneedtobeclearlystated.Weareallrecreationalusersofthecanal,bankorafloat,ourrightsareequal.(Canoe&kayakusersaretheworstoffenders,longonrightsshortonresponsibil ities.Mostboatersarerespectfulandpleasant.)E.g.Someonepractic ingforkayakracingdoingspeedintervalswhereyouarefishing,yetnearbythereareplentysectionswithnoanglerson.Thisisnodifferenttorunneroracyclistslowingdownwhenpassingpedestrians,birdwatchersoranglersbutbecausetheyareafloattheythinktheyhaverightsbeyondeveryoneelse;weareallrecreationalusersofthecanalandareallequal.

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393 Pathobstructionisasmuchofanissueasspeedofusers 4/16/20142:52AM

394 Ithinkthatthereshouldbeawrittenprinciplethatsaysthatallusersshouldacceptandrespectthattowpathsareusedbyotherusersandthati tdoesnotinc ludeownershipbyanyparticulargroupandthattheyshouldusethemaccordingly.Therearemanyexampleswheresinglegroupsofusersthinkthatthetowpathisjustforthem.Sharedspaceiswhati tmeans

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395 Ithinktheprinciplesarecommendable.Ithinkthepracticalitiesofmanagingthevariousactiviiesoftheusersneedstobegivengreaterthought

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396 Whilsttowpathswerebuiltasanintegralandessentialpartofthecanalsstructureandoperation,thecurrent'principles'donotseemtoenshrineorevenverbalisethisprimarypurpose.

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397 Whereareusersandvisitorssupposedtopark?Youneedtodoalotmoretoenableadequate,safeaccesstotheseplacesandprovideparkingyourselveswhereparkinghasbecomerestrictedthroughLAactions(ofteninresidentialareas)

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398 Don'tknow 4/14/20141:29PM

399 Boatersshouldalwayshavepriorityoverotherusers 4/14/201411:36AM

400 Thefactthatmosttowpathsareusedasdogstoiletsbyinconsiderateownerswhodonotpickupaftertheirdogs. 4/14/201411:20AM

401 cyclingshouldbe"l icenced"ontowpathsonceagain. 4/14/20148:55AM

402 Wherethereisthespaceavailable,walkingandcyclingroutesshouldbekeptseparate 4/14/20147:47AM

403 Openingupoffacil itiestononboaters.Intheheightofthehotsummerin2013,Iwasdoingalotofcanalwalks.ItwasdaftthatIwaswalkingpastlockedwatertaps,whilstdesperateforadrink.

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404 AsaGoogleTrustedPhotographerforGooglemaps(XXXXXinLondon)l ivingandworkingfromnearbythecanal XXXXRdIwouldlocetocreatepartnershipswithneighbouringbusinessl ikeIdidalready.Thosebusinesseswouldlovetobepartofthestreetviewmap.Wouldl ikethereforetostartoffacommuneprojectstoaddthosestreetviewl inkinanewwayhttps://www.google.co.uk/intl/en-GB/maps/about/partners/streetview/trekker/

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405 Biodiversityshouldbeenhancedwhereverpossibleaspartoftowpathimprovements 4/14/20147:12AM

406 Lightingshouldnotbeinc ludedaspartofmakingtowpathsintocyclepaths,especiallyinthecountry.Moremooringringsshouldbeinc ludedwherepossiblewhenmakingurbanpaths.

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407 CYCLINGCANBEDANGEROUSBOTHTOTHEMSELVESANDWHEREOTHERUSERSESPECIALLYANGLERSANDTHEIREQUIPMENT AREPRSENT BOATSPLEASESLOWDOWNANDKEEPTOTHEMIDDLEWHENPEOPLEAREFISHING

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408 cyclistsoftenabusethetowpathasaracingtrackandendangerpeoplesl ives.thereneedstobeenforcementandwidespreadpublic ityofthecodeofpractice,theneedforbanningvoffendersfromtgetowpathandspecificallythewidespreadpublic itythatpedestrianshavetherightofwayovercyclists

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409 Signageespeciallytopointstootherformsoftransportandotherinterests,e.g.shops,restaurants,etc.sotheyaretrulyintegratedintothesurroundingcommunity.

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410 Thedocumentseemstomisswhatinmyopinionisthemostimportantprincipletopreservealongthetowpath,thetowpathservesasanimportantl inkbetweenthewaterandthelandthoseusingthepathshouldbemindfuloftheconnectionbetweenthetoo,assuchinteractionbetweenthewaterwayandthetowpathshouldbeconsideredatalltimes.thereareanumberofusessuchaswatersportscoachingandsafetythatrequirepersonsofthetowpathtokeeppacewithboatsforreasonssuchascarryingl i feropesinthecaseofcoachingjuniorrowers.Thecurrentdocumentappearstobeblindtothenecessityofsuchusesandmorefocusedontheamenityofthecasual"landonly"userratherthanthatoftheusersseekingtoutil izethepathsinconnectionwithactivityonthewateraswasintendedwhenthepathswerebuilt.

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411 HORSEACCESS 4/13/20148:11AM

412 Areminderthattowpathsareprimarilyforthesafetyofboatmovements 4/13/20141:54AM

413 Inanycode,cyclistsshouldbeaskedtophysicallydismountwhentheytravelthroughanimoprtantfishingmatch.IthinktheorganisersoftehefishingmatchshouldputupatemporaryCRT signageindicatingthis.

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414 Cyclistmustbel icensedtoalevelthatwillexcludethemanyignorantidiotsweasanglersandpedestriansencountereveryweekendonthewaterwayswehavetopaytouse.

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415 Astrictcodeofconductshouldbeenforcedforcyclistandpeoplewhouseboatsanddinghyswithoutal icence 4/11/20145:54AM

416 Imayhavemissedthis,butamaximumcyclespeed,setlow-say5mph-shouldbeenforcablebylawontowpaths.Itwoulddramaticallyremovestressforpedestriansandforparentsofsmallchildrenwhohavetododgecyclinglunaticseveryweekend.

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417 Horseridingshouldbepermittedinprinciple,atawalkingspeedonlyperhaps,whereverthepathwidthsaresuitable.HorsesAREtheheritageofthetowpaths,pleasedon'texcludethem!Towpathsarewonderfulplacesandprovideopportunitiestogetoffroadsafely.

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418 Towpathsmustbeopenandnotobstructed.Forexample,anglersshouldnotbeallowedtousepolesthatblockthetowpath.Houseboatsshouldnotstorewoodorotheri temsonthetowpath.

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419 Canalshaveanover-ridingprimarypurposeofnavigation.Allotherusesaresecondary,butwelcomed. 4/11/201412:36AM

420 MaybeinthisdayandagewithsafetyaprimeconsiderationtheCRT shouldconsider(iftheyhaven'talready)noaccessatnightforallusers?

4/10/201412:03PM

421 Veryconcernedaboutwalkersbeing'forcedoff'towpathsbycyclists.Pethates:cyclistswhocomefrombehindwithoutanywarning,cyclistsriding2or3abreastandwillnotleaveroomforwalkers,cyclistsgoingtoofast.Somesectionshavetoomanycyclistse.g.LlangollentoTrevoratweekendsinsummerisgettingdifficulttowalkcomfortably.Wherethesurfaceoftowpathshavebeen'hardened'i tencouragescyclists,andenablesthemtogofastertothedetrimentofwalkers&otherusers..

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422 Itshouldbeunderstoodthattheonlyindividualsthatpayforupkeepfroma"privatepurse"areboaters. 4/9/20145:22AM

423 ThatALLtowpathsshouldbebridlewaysandprovidesafeoffroadroutesforhorseriders 4/9/20144:53AM

424 Thewholequestionarreassumesthatthepersonfi l l ingi tinacceptsmultiuseoftowpaths.Anglerspayarenttofishalltheotherusersdonot.

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425 Keyissueofaccess,engagementwithcanalsideproperties,rangerservicesdevelopedfromexistingvolunteers.LinkagetothenewlyformedLocalNaturePartnershipsegBirminghamandtheBlackCountryLNPwouldbeinterestedintheiraccesstogreenspacestrategy.EmphasisonchildrenegthroughlocalauthorityandtheLNP

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426 DogpooisaverybigproblemalongtheK&A,Iwouldl iketoseemoresignsanddogpoobins.AsadogownerIknowhowlovelyitistowalkyourdogalongthecanalbuttherearetoomanyowners(andIhavewitnessedmany)thatallowdogstopoowherevertheywantandthenleavei t,thisisespeciallydisgustingwhenclosetoboatsorboat'smooringpinsandropes.Itisahealthhazard.

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427 Idonotthinki tshouldbeagiventhattowpathsaredevelopedforcyclistsandwouldwelcomestretcheswhereyoudidnothavetokeepaconstantwatchforthemapproaching.

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428 Therewasnoclearrecommendationsforfishermen/women.Thereisalsonoreferencetoboatersprioritiesonthetowpaths.Thereisl i ttlementionofcatsanddogs,boaterspets.Thereismentionofunpredictablemovementofchildrenbutcatsanddogs,too,havesufferedmanyinjuriesduetospeedingcyclists.Alsocyclistsmustbeaskedtogiveprioritytoboatspassingthroughbridgesandlocksandwaituntiltheboathaspassedandthebridgeisclosedbeforeproceeding(whentryingtonegotiatealowbridgewhilstaloneonaboat,i tisquiteirritatingwhenacyclistcomesandshutsthebridgebeforeonehasgotthroughandthencyclesoff!).Cyclistsshouldhavesomekindofidentificationsotheycanbereportedwhenbeingabusiveordangeroustoothers.

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429 Towpathsshouldbeaddedtothedefinitivemapsofpublic rightsofway 4/8/20148:56AM

430 ThatanychangesthattheCanalandRiverTrustfeeltheyshouldmake,shouldbemadeinawaythatdon'talienateordiscourageusersofthetowpath.Thereshouldbemoredonetoemphasisetheimportanceofetiquetteinsharedusespacesratherthanfortifyingthedivides.

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431 Dogpoohonthepathsisbothunpleasantandahealthrisk–noquestionsaboutthat.Il ikedogsbutalltoooftencomeacross'water-bornesquatters'whomoorupanduseanaggressivedog/dogstotakeoverareasofpathas'their'territory.Thisseemstobemostcommoninruralareas.Shouldbeapolicytodealwiththem.PeopleneedtobepatientandWAIT forthedisabled,slowermoving/fishermantomakewayforthem.Noonehasarightofunimpededprogressonthetowpath.Moreproactiveeducationrequired.PolicythatweshouldbeNICEtoeachother.Anti-socialbehaviour(l ightingfires/barbcues/dumpingrubbish/yobbehaviour)ontowpathsisforebidden–butshouldbeapolicytoemphasisethat..andthatinmostareasaccessiswithpermission–notaRIGHT.

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432 Localcommunitiestobeencouragedtoengagemorewiththeirwaterways,encouragingasenseofownershipandfostervolunteering

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433 thereshouldbeapresumptionthatcyclingontowpathswillnotbepermitted 4/8/20143:45AM

434 Usebycyclistsshouldbeonlybeallowedbypurchasingapermit,C&RT haveadutyofcaretowalkersandanglerstopreventgroupsofcyclistsusingthetowpathsasracetracks.AnglerparticularlyareagrievedbythethreatfromcyclistsespeciallyasanglersaretheonlygroupcurrentlybeingchargedbyC&RT tobeonthetowpath.

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435 Sourcesoffunding? 4/8/20141:12AM

436 Thetowpathswerebuiltforusebyboatsandtheircrewsandsoshoudbemaintainedwiththeneedsofboatsasapriority. 4/7/20141:53PM

437 Unrestricted24houraccessshouldbeavailablefortowpathuse.Thisaspectisimportantwhenplanningawalkbecausetofindarouteclosedatcertaintimescouldcausegreatinconvenienceandadditionaldistancei frequiredtoresorttoanalternativeontheday.

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438 dogstobekeptonlead 4/7/20141:16PM

439 Betteraccessforwheelchairusers.Bikebarriersperhapsneedre-designingsotheycanbeopenedwithdedicatedkey. 4/7/201412:26PM

440 seepreviouscommentsaboutbanningcyclistsfromthetowpathstheyaredangerousandcausesomuchtroubletowalkers.Theycantcycleonpathmentsbecauseofthedangertopedestriansthesameshouldapplytotowpaths.

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441 Bikesshouldonlybeallowedontowpathswhicharealteredfortheiruse.ieasmooth&levelsurfacenotamuddypathheavilyruttedbymountainbiketyres.Atarmackedsurfaceisideal.WherebarriersareneededfitgateswithalockopenedwithaRadarkey,asalreadyinsomelocations,toallowwheelchairsandmobilityscootersaccess.

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442 Thereisatotallackofemphasisonsafetyofusersintheprinciple,i fthisconsiderationofsafetyisimpliedinthepric iplestheni tshouldbeimplic itlyinc luded.Localconsulationshouldbeinc ludedinthepric iplese.g.Theviewsoflocalexistinguserswilbesoughtonthefutureusesoftowpaths.

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443 Litterbinsandogmessbinsshouldbeusedinbusyareas 4/7/20146:13AM

444 Thereisnomentionofdogwalkers.Fewofthemcontroltheiranimalsandevenfewerpickuptheirmess.Theyseemtothinkthateveryoneelsewantstobesniffed,barkedatorurinatedonandoftenbecomeaggressivei fyouremonstrateortrytoshootheanimalaway.Asaresultofthis(andsomecyclists)manycanalsandsomeriversarenogoareasforanglers,resultinginalossofincomeofowners.

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445 Incertainareasthereshouldbeincreaseduseofzig-zagbarrierswhichwhilenotcausinganobstructiontopedestrianswillforcecycliststodismount

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446 •Eachcategoryofuse—walking,cycling,boating—shouldhavei tsownsetofstandardsforrisk,maintenance,behaviour•Longboatsshouldhavepriorityoverallothers,withhorse-drawnboatsattheheadofthose,becausethefundamentalcharacterofthiswonderfulresourcemustbeparamount.

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447 Areminderthatacanaltowpathisl ikeal inearpark(imaginethepatharoundaboatinglake)thatuisusedbysomanygroupsandallmustgeton.

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448 Morementionofprotectionofbiodiversity,encouragingalternativeusessuchasIncredibleEdibletowpathplanting,adoptionoftowpathbycommunityetc

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449 ThemainprincipleoftheCanalsandTowpathsisforthesupportofthepassageofboating.Allotherusesaresecondaryorincidentaltothis.Itisdangeroustothefutureofthecanalstoforgetthisandtoconcentrateexcessivelyonotherusersattheexpenseofthis.

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450 "Cyclistsmustdismountatbridgesandbylocks"butCaRT havenowayofadvisingthemofthissafetyissuebecausetheydontknowwhothecyclistare.Theyarenowsonumerousonsomecanalsthatthetowpathisverydangerousforwalkersand,particularly,forboaterswhoaremooring.Whenaboatermoorsandhastojumpforthebankthereisveryl i ttletimetocatcharopebeforebeingrunoverbyaspeedingcyclist.Itisaverydangeroussituationwhichwillresultintragedy.

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451 Yes-asstated-priorityusebyboatersfornavigationpurposes. 4/6/20148:07AM

452 Notalltowpathscanbetreatedwithidenticalcriteriaandsomeclassificationmaybenecessary-egtotallyrurall imiteduse/urbanheavymixeduse/cyclingroutes/majorl inkingwalkways/horseboatingroutes/thosewhereheritageorenvironmentconsiderationsmayrequirerestricteduse

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453 Paintingofspeedl imitmarkingsontowpaths.Signageshouldsaythatthecanaltowpathisasharedspaceandnotacycleroute.

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454 aratherbizarresurveysofar;'principles'???PutthingsinplainEnglishplease 4/6/20145:27AM

455 Yes,youneedtodevelopaprincipalofaccessibil ity.Apartfromthecycledamagetotowpathswhichdetersmanywalkerstherearefewaccesspointswherei tissafetoparkacar,thisalsoappliestoangling.TheT andMcanalneartomyhomeispossiblyoneofthebest"noncommercial"watersintheareabutyoucanwalkformilesandneverseeananglerevenontheclubrentedstretches.Thefishingi tselfisexcellent,i tisjusttheaccessibil itywhichisthemainproblemandoneofthereasonsyoumustbewellunderpotentialforanglingbasedincome.

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456 becausethewaterwaysarefundedpredominantlybynonboatersandlargelytheservicesietoiletsandcarparkingareusuallyfoundatC&RT propertyiemarinasthesefacil itiesshouldalwaysbemadeavailabletononboaters.UnlessofcoursetheattitudeofC&RT iswewantyoutouseourwaterwaysbutwewantcouncilsorprivatebusinessestoprovidetheservices,thepublic donotgivemoneytomakethingsexclusivetoboaters,Astatementbyaseniorcartmanagersayingmarinasareforboatersonlythereare2000milesoftowpathforthegeneralpublic andi tisherintentiontomakeallmarinasanogoareafornonboatersquitefranklyisinsulting

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457 Stoptheuseofaquietenvironmentforusebyinconsideratecyclists 4/5/201412:45PM

458 Financialcontributionfromalltheseextrausers-areyougoingtotargettheminsomewaye.g.fundraisingfortheTrust? 4/5/201411:08AM

459 yes,actuallypolic ingthetowpaths,mostoftheproposalsarecommonsensebutrestrictionsneedenforceingiedogsonleadsandclearingupafterthemandspeedingbicycles

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460 CyclistsshouldbemadetotravelslowerIhavehadseveraloccasionswhenLycracladfolksonbikeshavealmostrunmedowntheythinki t'snotcooltohaveabell/horntowarnotherusersofthetowpath.Alsothereshouldbeachargesotheycancontributetothecostsofcanalsandnotjustthepeoplewhoownboats.

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461 Clearprinciplesforsharedusebycyclistsandpedestrians.Theremustbeanacceptanceofanaudiblewarningbyabelltowarnthemofcyclistscomingupbehind.Thereshouldalsobeacycleidentificationplatetoallowreportingofinconsiderateusers.

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462 boaterandanglerspayl icencestousethecanalsnoothergroupsdomaybesomenominall icencefeebeintroducedforallusers?tohelpfundtheupkeepforall

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463 BanallcyclistfromthetowpathanglerspaytofishourcanalseachyearmothersandbabypramsarebeingforcedintohedgerowsbytheseselfcentredIdiotswhothinktheyhavetherightofwayovereverypersononthetowpathSunday30marchIhad£60,00worthofdamagetomyfishingtackledowntoascotsidiotonabikewhohadaverygoodgraspoffourletterswearwordsnowayoffindingoutwhohewasnotl ikeacarregthatcanbetracednothingonabikei fbikeswanttousethetowpathgetthemregisteredsoanydamagedoneonthetowpaththeyareaccountable.

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464 Iwouldl iketoseesomecodeofconductwhichoutlineseveryusersneeds.anglersveryoftenhavetodealwithcopingwithjoggersbashingintothem,bikesbreakinggearetc

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465 Therearetwomainsurfacesontowpaths-grass/tarmac.Thereshouldbeseparateplansforeachsurface.Cyclesaretravell ingathighspeedontarmac andshouldbeveryawareofpedestrians.Ongrasstheemaybegoodreasonstobancyclesorkeepthemveryslow.Thereisaproblemfordeafandhardofhearingpedestrianswhocannothearcyclesfromtherear.

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466 Asdiscussed,thereshouldalsobeaprovisionforhorseriderswhereverpossibleinordertogiveusthesameabilityforsafe,offroadridingandtheabilitytoenjoythescenic positioningofmostofourwaterwayswhilstgivingusasafejourneyfromatob.

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467 Useoftowpathsforfibreoptic cablingetc -needtopreservecharacteroftowpathsaftersuchwork 4/4/20141:55AM

468 ascodeofconductforcyclistsieslowdownnotchargedown.andastatementtheotherusershavethesamerightsandshouldnotbeexpectedtojumpinthecuttogetoutoftheway

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469 Howareanypolic ieswhichinvolvecyclistsgoingtobepoliced?Maybesomesortofregistrationfornonboatingusers,asal iveaboardboaterIbelievethatallusersofthecanalinfrastructureshouldbesubjecttothesamerulesinc ludingl icensingandstandardresponsibil ities

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470 Clearguidelinesfordogwalkersaboutnotsoilingtowpaths,andfacil itiesfordroppingwaste. 4/4/20141:01AM

471 HistoricallymanytowingpathswereNOT Public RightsofWaywhilstIagreethati tisagoodthingtoencourageaccesstoourcanalsystemweshouldnotallowthemtobecomefree-for-allbyways

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472 Theseprincipalsareverynicebutunlesssupportedbyhighlevelsoffinanceandlabortheywillbeofnolongtermuse.Whowillsupplythemoney.Anglersandboatersaretheonlypeoplethatpaytousecanals.

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473 Thereshouldbemoreemphasisonthe"twotings"requirementofcycliststogiveadvancewarningtopedestrians;thereshouldbemoreemphasisongettingcycliststobehaveconsiderately.

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474 allcycleusemusthavesomeformofinsurancecoverandbemadeaccountableforanydamageorinjury 4/3/201412:00PM

475 Atleasttwoofthequestionswerenotclear(andIhavesomeknowledgeofwhatyou'retryingtogauge).Ifyouaregoingtodoasurvey,pleasevalidateandgetsomehelpinwritingthem.

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476 Walkershaverightofway,notcyclistsoranglers.AnglersshouldNOT puttheirpolesacrossthepathunderanycircumstances.Anglersmustunderstandthatothersareentitledtobeonthetowpath-i tisnottheirs.Dogwalkersshouldkeepdogsonleadsatalltimes,notallowthemtoweeonboatersropesandalldogmesstobeclearedup.

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477 cyclistsshouldbetoldtoslowdownasmywifeandIwerenearlyhitbyone 4/3/201410:55AM

478 a)InLondonthetowpathsarehugelyvaluableforcommutersonfootandonbikes.Yestheyneedtosharethespace,rideslower,andbehaveresponsibly.Butnewdevelopment(e.g.cafesthatspilloutacrossthetowpath)needstoworkalongsidethetowpathsasroutes.b)Accessforkayaks/canoesisoftenpoorwithverylargedropsbetweentowpathandwater,especiallyatlocks.

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479 Thornhedgesformtheboundaryofmanycanals.Whentheyaretrimedthecuttingscausehavoc withodinarycycletires.Amorediligantsweepingupwouldhelp.(Noteveronehaspunctureresistantl iquidintheirinnertubes!)

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480 InmostofthethingsIreadaboutregardingthissubject,thethingthatisusuallymissingisanyreferencetoactualboaters.Alwayscyclists,disableaccess,joggersetc,butthepeoplewhoactuallystumpupthefundingareoftenlast.Agoodexampleisbankrepairs,insteadofusingpilingwhichwouldprovidetheboaterwithoftenmuchneededadditionalmooringopportunitiesasortof'HeathRobinson'wood,stringandmudrepairtakesplacefor'environmentalreasons'.Troubleisthattypeofrepairisunusabletoaboaterforpossiblyyearsuntil li thardensup!.

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481 Underthecitizencharter,whichyousignupto,preferencesshouldbegiventothosewhopayfortherighttobethere 4/3/20149:00AM

482 Referencetoprovidinggoodaccessandadequateparkingfortowpathuserswhoarevisitingfromanotherarea. 4/3/20148:56AM

483 Muchsternerguidanceandsanctionsagainstspeedingcyclists 4/3/20147:58AM

484 Aburdenonallcanaluserstosharetheiruseofthecanalcarefully,consideratelyandinaspiritofmutualbenefit. 4/3/20146:03AM

485 Speedl imitsignsforcyclists-i fthatiswhatismeantbythequestion. 4/3/20145:55AM

486 AsIhavementioned,apolicyfordealingwiththesmallnumberofproblemcyclistsisrequired.Itwouldbegoodtoknowwhotocallandwhatwecanexpecttobedonetodeterorbandangerouscyclists.

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487 Whiletowpathsarehavingvastamountsofmoneyspentonthem...Wouldn'ti tbebetterforboatersandfloodrelief,tohavecanalsandriversdredged?...Itcostsboatersalotofmoneytol icencetheirboats,onlytokeeprunningagroundwhentryingtomoorup....Shouldn'tthemoneybefirstlyspentonaccommodatingthel icencepayers?

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488 Recognitionthatthetowpathsarepublic space 4/3/20144:43AM

489 awayshouldbefoundforalluserstopayforthetowpath/canalandnotjusttheboaters,i fcouncil 'spromotethemascyclewaystheyshouldbemadetopaysomethingtowrdstheupkeep,alongwithotherleasuregroupsaswell

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490 cyclistsshouldbefarmoreconsideratetowalkers-manymanytimesanaccidentinthemakingisexperienced 4/3/20142:56AM

491 Anycyclesusingtowpathsshouldcarrybells. 4/3/20142:50AM

492 Itisimportantthatthewholenetworkistraversable.Itisnotanetworki fonlythepopularsectionsaremaintained.Evenbyl inkingthesesectionswithbasic scoriapathswouldbesuffic ient.Toomanystretches(eveninurbanBirmingham)arenothingbutruttedmudthatcanbecomeimpassibleformany.Ibelievethatsomesectionsareover-extravagantlyimprovedatthecostofignoringthewholenetwork.

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493 Ithinktheseprinciplesareverybadlywordedandconfusing 4/3/20141:31AM

494 Theprimaryuseofatow-pathisfortheuseofboatcrews,toassistwhennecessarythepassageoftheboat,andthemooringofboats.Whenrepairing,maintaining,upgradingorconductinganyotherworkassociatedwithtow-pathstheprincipleofwhathelpstheboaterbestshouldbethefirstpriority.

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495 Pleaseimproveaccessbyremovingthosesil lybarriersallalongthetowpaths.Theyareanightmareforthosewithdisabilitiesandthoseonbike(particularlywithpanniers).

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496 Hedgecuttingandheightofhedgesisapriority.hedgesshouldbeabletobelookedoverformanarrowboat-nothingmoreboringthangoingalongacanallookingatahedgeallthetime!!!!

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497 Boatersshouldhavepriority! 4/2/20142:23PM

498 Itisimportantthatallcanaltowpathusersknowandunderstandthatofalltheusersi tisonlytheAngler'sthatactuallypaystousetheTowpathsotheneedsoftheAnglerispriorityforanyworkorimprovementstobemade.

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499 Ensuringthatthereiscapacityonthetowpathforboaterstotieupthereboatswithoutcreatingsafetyissuetootherusersespeciallyasboaterscontributesignifacantlytothecanalupkeep

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500 don'tknow 4/2/201412:34PM

501 UptopresentIhavehadtwoofmyboatwindowsbrokenbyIcanonlypresumetowpathmaintenancegrasscuttingcontractors,IhavecometothisconclusionasonbothoccasionsthatthishashappenedIhavereturnedhometofindmyboatstrewnwithfreshcutgrassandacrackinawindow,perhapsyoucouldinstructthesecontractorstogivemooredboatsawideberthwithstrimmingmmachines,alsoIwastalkingtoagangofthistypeofcontractoracoupleofyearagoinStaffordshire,thegroundwasfrozensolidi twasminus10andtheyhadcomeallthewayfromDevontocutfrozengrassinStaffordshire,surelythisisanincrediblewasteofmoneywiththeexpensesthatgoeswithhavingpeopletravel200miletocutgrass

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502 cyclistsshouldbemademoreawareofotherwaterwayusersandhavetopayfortheuseofthetowpathsandcarrythirdpartyinsurancefordamagetoothersandorproperty

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503 Rememberthesepathsarefortheuseofboatersprimarily.Anglersonlocklandingsappeartoforgettheneedofboaterstostoptooperatelocks.Cyclistsnotwarningoftheirapproachfromtherearofpeopleonthetowpath.

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504 Towpathsecurity.LightingisbadlyneededinLondontohelplowerthecrimerateagainsttowpathusersandboaters.VictoriaParkisaprimeexample.

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505 principle9istooblunt,iagreewiththeessencebutifeeli tneedsrefinement,perhaps;'where,withlocalevidenceandknowladgewewillnotpromote....'

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506 whatprinciples? 4/2/20146:44AM

507 IT ISATOWPATHTOENABLEBOATING...ALLOTHERUSEMUST BECONSIDEREDSECONDARY.ThisistheCanal&RiverTrust,i fthetowpathisconsideredtobesaleable,somehowseparateasanentitythenyoumahavemissedyouway.

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508 Theeisaneedtoeducatenon-boatingusers,particularlyanglersandcyclists,intheneedsofboaterswhenmooringonthetowpath.

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509 Corefunctionofcanalsisthattheyarenavigablewaterways.Thiscausestheirstructuretobemaintainedfortheuseofallforquiet,relaxingenjoyment.Specific groupsegcyclists,nature-loversshouldnotbeallowedtodominate.

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510 Ifthemoreuseoftowpathsistobeencouragedthentheinfrastructureshouldbeputintoplacetosupporti t.Morefacil itieswouldberequiredsuchastoilets,parkingareas,andrefreshmentplaces.Alsomorecontroloftheusersmustbeinplacetoavoidandresolveconflic ts.

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511 acompleterethinkoftheuseofcanaltowpathsandprotectionforthosewhopaytousethetowpathabovethefreeloadersshouldbeconsidered,whenyoustartchargingcyclists,dogwalkers,trekkersandallandsundrywhodiscardthererubbishalongthetowpaththingsmightimprove

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512 Ithinkmoreemphasisshouldbemadeontheconsiderationofotherusers.Maycycliststravelatmorespeedthanisnecessary, 4/2/20141:55AM

513 Signagetobeused&howwillthisbecommunicatedtousersWhatpenaltiesforabusewillbeimposed 4/2/20141:30AM

514 DogWalkersshouldbecompelledtocleanupaftertheirdogs.Thetowpathsareinadisgustingstate.! 4/2/20141:23AM

515 Theuseofsignboardsareareallyusefulfeature.Therearesomeontowpathsbutmorewouldbewelcomeasahistoricalmessage.

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516 Moreeducationforthefasterusersieboatscyclescanoesongivingtheslowerusersmoretimetomoveoutoftheirway 4/1/201411:50PM

517 wheelchairaccessshouldbeallalongcanalnetworkinc ludingthroughtowns 4/1/201410:18PM

518 Anglersshouldbediscouragedfroml i ttering,andfromleavingbait.I'veseenratsonthetowpathinurbanareas,eatingfoodandbaitwaste.

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519 Allcyclistsusingtowpathsshouldpayanannualregistrationfeeandeverycycleshouldcarryavisibleregistrationnumber.Anessentialelementinobtainingregistrationisholdingacurrent3rdpartyinsurancepolicy.

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520 WidenTowpathswherepossibletokeepbikesandwalkersawayfromthewateredgewhereanglerswhoPAYtofishtheCanalcandosoundisturbedBURYTHEBANKSIDEPOWERLINES

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521 Theprinciplethati ftowpathsareavailableforleisurebyanyonetheni tshouldnotbejustboatersoranglerswhopayfortheirupkeep

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522 Theonlyproblemstomearecyclistwhotreattowpathsl ikemotorways 4/1/20141:57PM

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523 Theprimaryprincipleshouldbethattowpathsaretheretoservethoseusingthewaterway.Thoseofuswhoarenotusingthewaterwayfori t'sintendedpurposearesecondaryusersandmustacceptthattowpathscanbemuddy,ruttedandnarrow.Nottomentional i ttleovergrowninthesummer.

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524 Towpathsshouldbeupgradedforhorsetraffic astheoriginalintention.Cyclistsandfishermenshouldbebannedwherenecessaryforsafetyoffoottraffic .

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525 Yesinthisdayoffundingandbudgetaryissues,rememberi tstheanglerswhohavealwayspaidfortheprivilege;oftowpathuse.Outofallofthegroupspleasereconsiderourpositioninthepeckingorder

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526 Allusersmusthaveacodeofconductthatrespectsotherusers.Toenforcethisthensomekindofprocessforreportingissuesshouldbemadeavailable

4/1/201412:04PM

527 Thebiggestissueamongtowpathusersisthespeedcyclistsgo,thetowpathisnotdesignedfororsuitableforthesespeeds. 4/1/201411:52AM

528 Yesthatmoreconsiderationshouldbegiventothoseuserswhopaytousethewaterwaysoverthosewhocontributenofunds. 4/1/201411:28AM

529 Boatersandanglersaspartoftheirclubagreementorindividuall icencemusthavepublic l iabil ityinsurance.Ifeelcyclistsshouldbel icencedandholdsimilarinsurancecover.

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530 Widespreadnoticestodeterirresponsibledogownersfromfail ingtoclearupaftertheirdogs.Ispeakasatwicedailytowpathdog-walkerintheRodeHeatharea(T&M),andboaterwhoisoftendisgustedathavingtonegotiatedogmesswhentryingtomoorup...provisionofstrategicallyplaceddogpoobinsmightbehelpful...

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531 Moreconsideratemaintenance.EgOntheGUcanalinNorthamptonshirecontractorscutthegrassinlatespringandallthecuttingswerespewedintothecanaltakingmanyweekstorotandsinkandperhapstothedetrimentofwaterconditions.Hedgesare'strimmed'coveringthetowpathwiththorneyfragmentspuncturingbiketyres.Inmanyplacesthetowpathsarenowtoonarrowforpersonstofishandcyclistsandwalkerstopass.

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532 Tryingtoensurecyclistssticktoaslowsafespeedatalltimesandnotusethetowpathasaracetrackasnowinsomeareas 4/1/20149:39AM

533 Cyclistsshouldhaveabell,andusei t.Whencyclingthisgetsmealongmorequickly,whenboatingorwalkingi talertsmetoacyclistwhomaybeoutofmyimmediatevic inity,butcomingtowardsme.Dogownersmustpickuppoo!Boaters,walkersandfisherpeopleshouldtaketheirrubbishhome.CRT shouldprovidemoreplacestorecycle.

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534 Educatingthethemanyusersofthecanalsystem,makingeachorganisationawareofotherusers. 4/1/20149:29AM

535 Emphasisonprimepurposeassupportforboatingactivities 4/1/20148:47AM

536 Enforcinganycoderigorously. 4/1/20148:20AM

537 Canalsweremadeforboatsbothnarrowandwidebeam.Accommodationforboatstomoorforshortperiodsmustbeprovided. 4/1/20148:01AM

538 pleasekeepboatingattheheadofallchangesasthisiswhattheywerebuiltfor 4/1/20147:50AM

539 Yesinc ludingwildlifeandpersonaltowpathusageinonequestionisbarmy.Thereshouldbeal istofinconsideratebehaviour,suchaswearingpersonalmusic playerswithclosedearpieces.Consistent,oraminimumstandardforatowpathwouldbeuseful.

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540 Ifeelimustmentionthatthereareincreasingnumbersfraudstersoperatingonthecanal.TheypretendtobethebaylifandshowyoufakeIDandsellyouaticket.IhavereportedthistotherealBayliff.Thisneedstobepolicedandtheperpatratorscaught.

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541 Thosethatpayfortheprivelegeofusingthecanalandtowingpathsuchasboatersandanglers,shouldhavetheirneedsanddemandscateredforaboveanyoneelse.Thenaturalandunspoiltcharmoftowingpathshasbeendecimatedinrecentyearsbythisobsessiontopaveortarmac themcreatinghighspeedtracksforselfish,aggresive,andspeedycyclists.Surelyoneofthejoysofwalkingatowingpathwasthati twasunspoilt,youhadtowearwelliesandallowthechildrentosplashinpuddlesandgetmuddy.Itwasanalternativeandthenearestthingtowalkinginafarmersfieldinthecountryside,andyetsomethingofahistorylessoninfindingoutaboutourpast.Inmanyplacesnow,thetowingpathhaslostallcharacterandyoumightaswellwalkdownthelocalhighstreetforthereisnodifference.Theyhaveceasedtobetowingpathsandarenowjustpavementsandcycletracks.SuchashameBW/CRT considerthatthisisthedirectiontogoin.

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542 Seats,widertowpathswherepossible,orpassingplaces,andinanidealworld,separatecycle/peoplelanes! 4/1/20146:30AM

543 AsananglerIfeelthatIamdiscriminatedagainstasIhavetopaytofishonmylocalcanalwhereascanoeistandotherscanuseitforfreeoftenruiningmyfishingbybeingtheirbehaviour.Ifanglersmisbehavetheirrightstofisharetakenawaybutanyonecanboatorcanoe,dowhattheyl ikeandnothingwillchangeforthem.Howaboutachargefordayboatersorholidaymakersandalicenceforevangelists.

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544 Whataboutboatersthereseemstoalackofinterestfromthetrusttowardstheusersofthecanals 4/1/20145:37AM

545 towpathswerenotbuiltforcyclistsandtheupkeepofthemshouldrelectthat.Therearemoreimportantwaterwaymaintenancerequirementstospendmoneyonthanhavingahardsurfacedtowpaththatencouragesspeedingcyclists

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546 ThatTowpathsshouldbeavailableforconsiderateuseofcyclistsandnotusedasracetracksandmustbeadequatelyenforced.Anglerspayconsiderablesumsforuseofthecanalnetwork,nootherorganisationcontributeindividuallyyetanglerneedsareALWAYSatthebottomofthepile.wepayforwhatisadecreasingamenity.Cyclistshavenoinsurancearethereandgoneinsecondsandcandestroyfishingtackleinaninstant.Ipersonallyhadapoleworth£1000'sbrokenbyaspeedingidiotonabikesometimeago,whodidnotstopandwouldhavehadnoinsuranceanyway.PleasegivemoreconsiderationtoanglerswhoPAYtousethecanalsystemoverfreeloaders

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547 FrompersonalexperienceI'mafraidthatl icensingofcyclistsisinevitableandshouldbeseriouslyconsidered. 4/1/20144:46AM

548 Donotfenceofflockaandcanalsjustbecausetherisa"percieveddanger"thatl i ttleJohnniemightfallin.Childrenneedtolearntorecognisenaturalandman-nadedangersandactaccordingly.Wedidinouryouth,withoutphysicalbarriersto"educateandsafeguard"us

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549 Dogfoulingrulesneedtobeactuallyenforced,notjustadvertised,especiallyinresidentialareassuchasAvoncliff.Theyarewidelyignored,andnopenaltiesareeverapplied.Thereshouldbeabanonrunningboatenginesandgenerators,playingmusic,l ightingbarbecuesandmakinganyloudnoises,whenmooredwithinaround200yardsofhouses,atanytimeofday.

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550 Realitybites.Thesewoolly,contradictorystatementsarenotSMART.Sticktonationallyrecognisedsafetystandards.Ifatowpathistoonarrow,DONOT allowSustranstocalli tacycleway.NAVIGATIONSAFETYcomesfirstatpinchpointsl ikelocks-Icannotmovemyboattoanotherway,butIcan(anddo)ridemybikesomewhereelse.

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551 Acertainamountofpriorityshouldbeaffordedtothosewhopaytousethenetwork,i .e.boatersandanglers 4/1/20143:52AM

552 It'simportantthattheseprinciplesshouldapplytoALLcanals-notjustnavigableones. 4/1/20143:50AM

553 towpathsareprimarilytransportroutes,whateverthespeedoftransport,horsefootorcycle.Animportantexceptionisangling,whichisabarriertotransportbothonthewaterandthetowpath,especiallywherelongrodsareused.theproblemisexacerbatedbycompetitions,wheregreatlengthsoftowpathandwaterwayarecloggedupformanyhours.thisneedstobeaddressedand,i fanglersarepayingsuitablecompensationfortheiruse,thisneedstobepublic ised,

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554 Towpathswerenotconstructedforcyclists-noeffortsshouldbemadetoaccommodatethem,mostofwhomhavenoregardforsafetyorotheraspects.

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555 Responsiblecourteousbehavior.WehaveseenanincreaseinstagdosbetweenBradfordonAvon,Avoncliff&Bath.Drunkfulledboatswithlads&lassesonmissiontogetpissed,causenoendofproblemsalongthestretchofcanalforboaters,l ive-aboards,housesadjacenttothecanal.Iwouldpleaseurgeyoutoaddresstheissueofhirecompaniescontinuingtohireboatsouttogroupsofstagdos.Alcohol,boats&waterareadangerouscombination.

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556 CanalusersCodeforall. 4/1/20142:38AM

557 Aspreviouslymentioned,thereshouldbestructuresaddedtocertaintowpathswhererecklessspeedingcycleusehasbecomeaproblem.

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558 Thereshouldbetighterrestrictionsoncyclistswhocomehairingalongtowpathsringingtheirbellexpectingeveryonetojumpoutoftheirwayandtheyshouldhavepriority.Thiscanbeaparticularproblematlocksormooringswherecrewmaybetryingtooperatethelockorpullingonmooringropestryingtogetaboatintothebankpossiblyfightingagainststrongwinds.Ihaveexperienceofthisasacommonproblemi tisnotjustisolatedinc idents.

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559 ascanalsareafavouriteplacefordogwalkers,1weneedmoresignstotellpeopletopickthedogpooupandnotleavei tontowpathsalsotokeepdogundercontrolaroundlocks.(notmanydo).Ithinkcyclistsshouldbemadetogiveothertowpathusersawarningwhentheyracealongthetowpaths.(yestheydo).theyexpectyoutomove,notthemtoslowdown.bellsshouldbecompulsoryonallbikesandusedalongtowpaths.

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560 Rowdystagandhenpartiesonboats-boatyardswhoencouragethisshouldbemonitoredandl icensesrevokedi ftheirhirersdonotrspectthecanalandi tsusers.

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561 Physicalmeasurestol imitcyclistsspeedingortravell inginagroups/beimposed 4/1/20141:44AM

562 Towpathswere/arepartofanindustrialheritageandshouldnotbebeautified,butwellmaintainedtothesamestandardaswhenbuilt.Canalsareforboatsnotal inearpark,yeseveryoneshouldhaveaccesswheresafe,butnotattheexpenseorsafepassageormooringofcraft.Don'tforgethowmuchmoneyyougetfromboaters,andthatwaswhatthecanalsareforboaters.

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563 signageforspeedingcyclistandpickingupdogsmess 4/1/20141:25AM

564 Theboatinguseshouldbepriorityone.Pedestrianssecondwithother'sporting/recreationalusesasavailablei fi tcostsnothingtogroupsoneandtwointermsoffinance,safetyorannoyance.

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565 Lycracyclistsandoverkittedfishermanarethebugbearofmostpopulartowpaths 4/1/20141:03AM

566 Ofthestated50%ofthepopulationwhoareincloseproximitytoaCRT waterway,CRT shouldpositivelyencouragelocalauthoritiestoincreasetheirCouncilTaxby£0.01todemonstratetheirwill ingnesstoactasanengagedstakeholder.

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567 Thatdogwalkersshouldbeinfullcontroloftheirdogswhenpassingmooredboatstopreventsoilingofmooringropesandtheimmediatevic inityofthemooringsingeneral.

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568 aspermylastcomment.Thetowpathsshouldbemaintainedandpreservedastheywereoriginallyintended,thatisasaserviceabletowpath.

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569 behaviourofdogownersandtheirdogs.nomentionofthem.Loosedogsonthetowpathareamenacewhetherfromboatsorwalkers.3peoplebittenon2canalsin3weeksthatIknowof.

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570 Morel i tterandespeciallydogpoobinstokeepourcanalsandriverscleaner 3/31/201411:02PM

571 Thetowpathshouldbemaintainedprincipallyfortheuseofboater'sandwalker'sfirst.Cyclingshouldbeasecondaryconsideration.

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572 Doyouthinkthattowpathsshouldbecomeanuninterruptedrouteforspeedingcyclists? 3/31/20144:21PM

573 Polic ingofspeedanddamagecausedtotowpathsbycyclistsespeciallymountainbikers 3/31/20143:30PM

574 Aspartofmyvisionfora'TowpathCodeofConduct'averyimportantelementthatshouldbeadoptednowiswhichsideofthetowpathdoIuse?Shouldweadopttheboatingruleortheruleoftheroad?DoIwalk/cycle/jogontheleftortheright?

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575 Thereshouldbeanenforcedspeedl imitforcyclistsofwalkingpace.Towingpathsarenotsuitableforspeedcycling.Anglersmustnotobstructtowingpaths.Boatersshouldhavepriorityoveranglerswheni tcomestomooringspace.

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576 Acommitmentbythetrusttoenforceregulations.Lackofenforcementallowsapathyandthatleadstoconflic t! 3/31/20143:08PM

577 improvementsshouldnotinthemselvesgiverisetopeopleusingbikesathighspeedandinallcasesshouldbedesignedtopreventthisbycorrugationsorsimilar

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578 Canalsweredesignedandbuiltforboating.Wheremixeduseleadstoconflic tingpriorities(Eganglingspacevsmooringspace)priorityshouldbegiventoboating.Anglersareabletofishelsewhere-suchasriversandlakes-whereasboatersdon'thavethischoice!

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579 itishardtomixpointtopointcyclingandcasualridingwiththekids 3/31/20142:41PM

580 WCyclistsareahazardforthemostpartunlessassociatedwithboats.Anenforceablepermitschemeisagoodidea 3/31/20142:33PM

581 Thereneedstobespecific emphasistoreducedogmess.Inconsideratedogownersareablightandconsiderationshouldbegiventobanningdogsfrompopularstretchesatbusytimes.Thisisalreadyenforcedonpopularbeachesduringsummermonthsandshouldbeextendedtocanals.Heavyfinesshouldbeleviedondogownerswhodonotcleanupaftertheirpets.

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582 UnlessGovernmentfinancingisreceivedtowardstheupkeepofthetowpath,orotherincomestreamsaredevisedtocoverotherusersthenboatersuseofthetowpathshouldhaveprimacy.Thisisnottoexcludeordeterotherusersmerelytomakei tclearthatsincetheboatersaretheonlyone'sunderthecurrentarrangementswhoarepayingfortheiruseofthefacil ity,theirrequirementscomefirst.Ifmeansarefoundforalluserstopaytowardsthefacil itythenallusersshouldhaveequality.

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583 provisionofmeaningfulandsensiblequestionsthataddresstherealissues. 3/31/20142:24PM

584 Keepingthetowpathandthewaterfreeofrubbish.Usingi tinsuchawayasnottodisturbwildlifealongthecanalandi tstowpath.

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585 pleaseseemypreviouscomments.Iamfedupwithrudepeopleusingthetowpath.OnlytodayIwasscaredoutofmywitsbyacyclistwhodidnotusehisbelltoalertme.Iwasenjoyingalovelystroll,l isteningtothebirdsandenjoyingnature,walkingslowly.IamsorryIwasinhiswayandannoyinghimashespedalongthetowpath,sorry,cycletrack!!!!!!Also,pleasepromotetherulesforfishing.Iamregularlyannoyingfishermenwhenonmyboat,whentheyarefishingbylocksorbridgesorondesignated48hourmoorings.Also,whenIamwalkingthetowpaththeysometimesblockthepathwithrodsetc andwontmovethemsoyoucanpass.Ihaveslightwalkingdifficultyandshouldn'thavetogoupabanktoavoidthem,howdopushchairsandwheelchairsdealwiththisproblem.AnotherissueIhave,whydopeoplethinki tsOKtogouptoaboatandstareinatthewindowsordoor?Youwouldn'tdothattosomeone'shouse,caravanortent,sowhyaboat.Youreallyneedtomakeeveryoneawareoftheetiquetteofthewaterways.Itstheoneplaceleftwhereyoucangetpeaceandquietandfriendlinessbutwearelosingthat.Ithaschangedoverthemany,manyyearsthatIhavebeenwalkingthetowpath,andthe10yearsthatIhavebeenaboatowner.

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586 Theamountofdogmessalongsometowpaths(I'mthinkingspecificallyoftheSelbyCanalbutnodoubtotherwaterwaysaresimilarlyaffl ic ted)detractsfromthepleasureofmanyusers.Iamnotsurehowthisproblemcanbecontrolled,shortofbanningdogs,butIthinkthisisaproblemthatneedslookingat.

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587 Yousaycyclists'shouldthinkabout'usingheadphones.Ithinktheyshouldbebannedforalltowpathusersfullstop.Itisasafetyissuei fyoucannothearsomeoneshoutingawarning.Locksaredangerousandaccidentscanhappen.

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588 itsacycletrack,notaracetrack! 3/31/20141:43PM

589 DredgethecanalsPutNarrowboatusehighonyourl ist 3/31/20141:31PM

590 Dogwalkersshouldrespectothertowpathusersandshouldclearupaftertheirpetshaveusedthetowpathsasatoilet.Alsodogsshouldbekeptonleadsunderthecontroloftheirowners

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591 Thepotentialforanglingespeciallyinremoteareasisunderutil isedastheaccessandparkingissueiswhatletsi tdown.Improvingthecanalsinfrastructureshouldinc ludehowtheincreasedcapacitywillbemanagedandshouldtakeintoaccountthesetwothings.

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592 Bancyclistsduringsummermonthssothatfamily'scanusthecanalsinsafety 3/31/201412:45PM

593 Thattheyremainopentoallwhorespectprimaryreasonfortheconstructionofthecanalsystem. 3/31/201412:41PM

594 Towpathsshouldbepromotedaspublic footpaths-encouragingpeopletobeactive,withassociatedhealthbenefits. 3/31/201412:38PM

595 Thetowpathisamajorpartofthenavigationandboatingandboatmooringshouldbetheirprincipaluse. 3/31/201412:20PM

596 C&RT shouldprovideenoughstafftoensurethattheseprinciplesareadheredto,especiallywheresharedusebycyclistsispermitted.

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597 Speedingcyclistsareagreatdangertousadultssteppingoffboats,ortryingtomoorup.Alsoagreatnuisancei fyouaresittingindeckchairs.Theyareevenworsewhenyouhavedogsandchildrenwithyou.Cyclingclubsareagreatworry.

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598 Asalreadymentioned,mooringboaters. 3/31/201412:07PM

599 Onthewhole,Ifeelthattheuseofthecanaltowpathshasbeenverybadlypromotedandmanaged,andthevastmajorityofcyclistsIencounterareoblivioustootherusers,usuallyfocusedonatimetrialorrace!

3/31/201411:55AM

600 ControlofvegetationgrowthduringthesummerSHOULDbeaprioritytomaintainconnectionbetweencanalandtowpath.ThisisNOT thecaseonsomecanalssuchasthesouthernsectionoftheStaffs&WorcestershireCanal,wherefromspringonwardsthereisabarrierofveggrowthofupto7or8feethigh!Thiscanmakeseeingthecanalfromthetowpathalmostimpossible,andintheeventofaproblemonaboataccessingthetowpathalongmostofthecanalcanbevirtuallyimpossible,makingi tdownwritehazardous.IncidentallythereisAMPLEroomforflora&faunaBEYONDthetowpathandontheoff-side;noneedforajungleonthecanaledge!IcanonlyassumethattheConservationandEcologycardisbeingplayedasasmokescreentomoneysaving.

3/31/201411:54AM

601 banbikes,forthesafetyofotherusers. 3/31/201411:36AM

602 Theprimeneedofthetowpathmustbetoaidnavigation 3/31/201411:22AM

603 Theshouldbeageneralprincipalthatallusesshouldshowconsiderationtootherusersofthetowpath.IamananglerbutIfirmlybelievethatallanglersshouldkeepthemaintowpathwalkwayfreeoftheirtackleandpoleshouldbeshiptothesideandnotbackwards.Ialsobelievehoweverthatcyclistsshouldknowthatthereisaslowspeedl imittoavoidunnecessaryconflic twithpedestriansandanglersandabellshouldbemandatoryonallbikesontheTowpath

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604 Prioritymustbetosustainableuse,whichmeansprioritisingfundsformaintenanceofprimaryuses(aswaterways),andheritage,withoutpric ingthosewhoprovidemuchoftherevenueoffthenetwork.Thiswouldcreateaspiralofdecline,whichwouldbeverydifficulttoreverse,andcouldseriouslydamage/reducethenetworkandi t'svalueto*all*users.

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605 Thedangerofspeedingcyclistsandtheirdisregardforothertowpathusersisnowoutofcontrol.Anglersandboatershavetopaytousethesystem.Cyclistsshouldhavetopayaswelltorepaircostsofthetowpath.Cyclistsmusthaveinsurancetocovercostsofaccidents.

3/31/201411:08AM

606 Themaintenanceofthe'tradition'ofthewaterwaysandtowpaths.Ourcanalsystemisuniqueandsoattractsmanyvisitors.Leti tnotbespoiltbyopeningupthetowpathstonontraditionalmeansoftransport.

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607 boats!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 3/31/201411:05AM

608 cyclistsshouldhaveapermitthatstatesthattheydon'thavethedivinerighttospeedalongtowpathssplashingwalkersanddamaginganglerstacklewhichisverycommoninwatford

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609 Increasedaccessandusageshouldnotbeattheexpenseofsecurityandsafetyofboaters 3/31/201410:58AM

610 Averyspecific cyclingspeedl imit,whichismonitoredandenforced. 3/31/201410:51AM

611 Dogmessisarealproblemalongmanytowpathsandisahugehazardforboatersbringingi tintotheirboatsontheirshoes.Sometimesboaters'dogsaretoblamebutmanypeoplewalktheirdogsonthetowpathanddon'tclearupafterwards.Perhapstherecouldbemoredogbinsprovidedandnoticeserectedtoremindpeopleoftheirresponsibil ities.

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612 Towpathsshouldbeprioritisedforbotersoverallotherusers.Cyclingshouldbediscoragedasi tisunsafeforpedestrianuserswhencyclistsrefusetoobeyanysignsand/orrules.Cyclistshouldbemadetopayfortowpathuseandberequiredtohaveinsurancewhendoingso.

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613 Signageshouldspecificallyprohibittheblockingoftowpathsbymooringropes,fishingtackleetc. 3/31/201410:28AM

614 Priorityshouldbegiventopedestriansandonaslowerpaceofl i fe.Iknowtowpathswereoriginallyprovidedforhorsesandpeoplewerebannedfromusingthembutnowadaystheyhavegottobeprovidedforthesafeuseofallhencepriorityforpedestrians.

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615 Therightofboaterstohavepeacefulplacestomoor.Theimportanceofkeepingmoreofthecanaledgeclearedsothatboaterscanaccessthetowpath.Inurbanareastheimportanceofplacingmoremooringrings/bollardssothatboatersdon'thavetosnakeropesouttopins.

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616 Barriersathighboatingactivitysitessuchaslocksmakingcyclistsdismount.Fishingmatchpegsshouldnobeallocatedonpopularmoorings

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617 nocycles 3/31/201410:07AM

618 Thetowpathsshouldbepredominantlytoaidthepassageofboats.Walkingisacceptable,asisfishing(just).Noattemptshouldbemadetofacil itatethepassageofcyclists.Indeed,chicanesandadverserumblestripsshouldbeaddedevery1/2to3/4milestodeterthelycra-loutswhoseemtoriderecklesslywithoutanycareorinterestinthoseproceedingatamoresedatepace.

3/31/201410:03AM

619 Althoughthetowpathisasharedamenity,i treallyisessentialthatlockmooringsshouldbekeptclearofanglerssoboatscanmoorsafelytooperatethelock.Clearsignageshouldpointthisout.Itisnotsuffic ienttoput"Forlockuseonly".Boatersunderstandthismeanstheyarenottomoor,butanglersstil lthinktheycansitfishingbetweenthebollards.

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620 Collaborationwithvolunteergroupstobrigntowpathstoanagreedstandardthroughpartnerships 3/31/20149:51AM

621 Notentirelymissing,butmoreemphasisneededonthosebringingdogsontotowpaths(includingboaters)keepingdogsfullyundercontrol,andalwaysremovingwaste(pushingi tintothecanalisnotacceptable!)

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622 Safetymustbethemainconcernalongtowpathsfishermanmustberestrictedtonormallengthrodsastheverylongextensionsblocktheway.Cyclistsgofartofastonaveragefourtimesfasterthanstrollers.Vergestothetowpathsshouldbeclearedtoshowtheactualwateredge.

3/31/20149:42AM

623 Althoughsuggestedinsomepreviousquestions,cyclistsshouldberequiredtorideresponsiblyandwithdueconsiderationtoothertowpathusers.Towpathsareoftenusedaseasyridingcommuterroutesbythosewhowishtogettotheirdestinationasquicklyaspossible.

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624 Nocycleracingortimetrialsallowed 3/31/20149:16AM

625 Considerationbydogownersforothersusingthetowpath.Continueduseofrubbishbinsfordogwasteandfinesforthosecaughtleeringtheirdogsfoulthetowpath

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626 Stressconsiderateuseoftowpaths,andthatprimaryuseisforboatingactivity,i .eMooringsitesshouldtakepriorityforboating 3/31/20149:08AM

627 Allcyclistsshouldhavebellsandusethem.Wherethereissharedusetheyshouldcarry3rdpartyinsuranceasboatersdo. 3/31/20149:06AM

628 Signageshouldbeputinplacetodetailthesharedusageandthatconsiderationtootherusersshouldbeupheld.Dogfoulingsignsdetail ingprosecutionformissuse.Asanglerspayl icensefeesmaybecyclistsshouldtooi ftheyaretousecanaltowpaths?

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629 TheCana;&RiverTrustshouldbepromotingtheuseofthesewaterwaysareawayofl i fe,andshouldbelobbyingforincreasedaccesstoAffordableResidentialMooringswithaccesstoutil ities.

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630 keepthecanalsandtowapthsastheyare.Makesocalledimprovementsinurbanareasbutnotinruralareas.Realwalkersdonotmindmudandaroughsurface.Stoptryingtomakeaccessforall-i tisnotnecessaryandwillresultinthedetrimentofthecanals.

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631 Thestrongexclusionofmotorcyclesismissing 3/31/20148:29AM

632 useofmaterialssympathetic tothelocationandhistoric contextofthewaterway.-tarmac isn'tsuitableinalllocations... 3/31/20148:13AM

633 Nospeedingcyclists! 3/31/20148:03AM

634 Thatthereshouldbeabindingagreementbyallusersorganisationsboaters,fishing,cyclists,etc ontheseprinciples. 3/31/20147:50AM

635 Asthesewillbenefitalargenumberofpeopleoutsidethosewhopresentlyhavetopay-boatersandanglers-theyshouldstatethatothersourcesoffundingshouldpayformostoftheimprovements

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636 Asmuchashorseboatingisimportanttotheheritageofthewaterways,soarenarrowboats,andtradeviathewaterways.Ibelievethatmakingspacefortradeboatsinappropriatelocationswouldbegreatforalltowpathusers-localscouldgotoaregularspotmuchl ikeamarketplacetoseewhat'sonofferthatweek/month.Andhonouringtheplaceofnarrowboatsaspartoftheeconomyandhistory-andthosewhol iveontheirboats(asdifferentfromholidaymakersorthosewhousetheirboatasasecondflat)wouldaddtothemutualrespectandculturaldiversityofthecountry.SometimesIseeevidenceofan'usvs.them'attitudethatmakesi tdifficultforeveryone

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637 Towpathsshouldbesharedbutconsiderationshouldbegivenespeciallybyarrogantcyclistsforeveryoneelse.Alsotowpathsarenotdogtoilets.

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638 totalbanonfishermenfishingoppositemooredboats 3/31/20147:09AM

639 Signsshouldmakeabsolutelyclearwhatisallowedandnotallowedandwhohaspriority. 3/31/20146:58AM

640 speedl imitforcyclesSLOW 3/31/20146:25AM

641 TowpathusersCharter.Hilightingtheprinciplesinthedocument 3/31/20146:20AM

642 Theprinciplethattheprotectionoftherealheritageofthecanals(notjustnames)andtheusebyboatstobetheprimaryobjective.Ifthisisachievedthealltheotherstatedprincipleswillautomaticallyfollow.

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643 AllusersshouldTHINKsotheydonotdosomethingwhichmayimpedeorobstructotherusersforanunreasonablelengthoftime 3/31/20145:03AM

644 Bancyclistastheydon'tseemtobeabletotravelslow. 3/31/20145:00AM

645 Lockapproachesarefortheuseofboaterspassingthroughthelock,notformooredboatsoranglers. 3/31/20144:53AM

646 Thetowpathsarethehomesformanyl iveaboardboaterswithouthomemoorings,andarealsothesiteoffacil ities.Thesecurityofthetowpaths,andtheavailabil ityofallfacil ities,fromenoughturftodriveinamooring-pintopump-outsandwater-pointsmustbepreservedandimprovedupon.

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647 Asaboateripayasignificantamounttowardstheupkeepofthepath/cut.Sofareveryotherusergrouphashadconcessionsgranted.Whenarewel ikelytogetourinterestsprioritised??Ieidontexpectordeservetheanglingclubtorequiremetomovebecauseimonhis/herswim.

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648 Towpathsareaninseparablepartofawaterwayandshouldbetreatedassuchandnothijackedforanyotheruse.Thereisnothingwhateverwrongwithtowpathsonlywithsomeofthepeopleusingthem.Highprofileactionshouldbetakenagainstdogownerswhofailtocleanuporcontroltheiranimalsandcyclistswhoseektobullytheirwayintodominance.Bothofthesecategoriesactinamannerwhichspoilsthetowpathforotherusersandinsomeplacestowpathshavebecomedefactothedomainandpropertyoftheinconsiderate.

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649 Prioritytotowpathuseshouldalwaysbetoboatersnavigatingboats,asunimpededaccesstothebankside/mooringposts&ringscanbecriticaltosafety&thesecurityofboats.Also,theremovealofmooringsitesshouldneverbeconsideredasamethodtoimproveaccesstothetowpath(unlessalternative,similarlyregulatedmooringsitesarecreatedofequalsize&facil ities)

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650 Bancyclistsfromtowpaths 3/31/20144:32AM

651 Extensiveprovisionofmooringringstolessentheuseofmooringpinsandthesubsequentdamagetotowpaths. 3/31/20144:25AM

652 Liveaboardsshouldnotusethetowpathasanextensionoftheirl ivingquarters. 3/31/20144:23AM

653 Acanalisprimarilyanavigationandshouldberecognisedassuch,boatersandboatingmusttakeprecedencewhendesigningthetowpathenvironment.

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654 Littleisinc ludedhereaboutwildlifeespeciallyplantsandvegetation.Careneedstobetakenthata2mwidecyclepathdoesnotsqueezeoutvegetation.

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655 Establishmentofanetiquetteforpedestrianswouldbeausefuladditiontotheprinciples.Thisetiquetteshouldinc ludesuchmeasuresas"pedestrianskeepleft"(orright,Idon'treallycare,althoughfromexperienceIcantellyousharedpathsalwaysworkbetterwhen*all*ofthetraffic istravelinginthesamedirection),"beawareofuserscomingfrombehindaswellasthefront,""beawareofotherusers,""groupsoftwoormorepleaseallowroomforotherusers."ThesearetheroutineissuesIseedailyonthetowpaths.

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656 Moresignageanddirectionalinformation,wouldaddtoeveryonesenjoymentofthetowpaths 3/31/20143:43AM

657 Facill i tiesshouldbeimprovedforboaters 3/31/20143:38AM

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658 Duetothesignificantcostsinvolvedtheresponsibil ityforthemaintenanceanduseofthetowpathsshouldbepassedontoLocalAuthoritiesandParishCouncils.TheCaRT shouldconcentratei tsfundingonthemaintenanceofthewaterwaysforboatersuse.VolunteerscannotbereliedupontocarryoutthetowpathrepairstoHealthandSafetystandardsandshouldberestrictedtomowing,grassstrimmingandhedgetrimmingandcontractorsusedforpilingworks,holefi l l ingetc.

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659 Goodoldcommonsense.Youcannotgetaquartintoapintpot.Ifthetowpathcannottakeupgradingtoinc ludeeveryonesobeit.

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660 Clarityastopriorityofusers. 3/31/20143:32AM

661 1.Theenvironmentalaspectsoftowpathsseemtobemissing-theyarecorridorsfornatureaswellasforpeople.2.Alsothereisnomentionoftheircontributiontothehistoric environment.Thiscanbeparticularlyimportantwheretraditional(oftenbrick)surfacesareusedonslopesalongsidelocksandrisingtobridges.Thisispartofwhatmakesthecanalworldspecial.3.Ruralareashavedifferentneeds&solutionstourbanareas.

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662 Restorationofdisusedcanalsandl inksbetweencanals 3/31/20143:23AM

663 Sofartheprincipalsmakescantreferencetotherightsandneedsofboatersuseofthetowpath.Yesthevisitorstothetowpathhavetobecateredforandencouragedbutatthesametimethepeoplethatarethel i febloodofthecanals365daysoftheyearmustbegivenconsideration.Dayindayoutwehavetol ivewiththespeedingcyclists,gongoozelingtouristspeeringthroughyourwindowsandconstantpilesofdogmessoutsideourfrontdoor!Weputupwiththeseinconveniencesandmorebecausewelovethewaterways,weloveourenvironment,welovethel i festyle.WEshouldbeconsideredasmuchapartoftheinfrastructureofthenetworkasanythingelse!

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664 thecanalswerebuiltforboatsandthepriorityshouldbeforboaters. 3/31/20143:19AM

665 Theveryprincipleofpreservingaswas.Ratherthanupdatingorimproving.Imagine,everybankwasconcretepiling,everytowpathlaidtotarmac,everyhedgereplacedbya2mhighgalvanisedanticlimbfence.Whathavewe,nothing!

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666 Thecanalsarewonderfulpeacefulplacesandmoreseatinginthewayofbenchesshouldbeprovided.IrealizethereisacosttothisBUT thereisalotofovergrowntreesonthenontowpathsidesurelythesecouldbechoppeddownandrecycledasrusticbenchesforveryl i ttlecost.

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667 Respectofprivacytobeshowntoboatersonresidentialmoorings.Stretchesoftowpathwouldnotbebeautifulwerei tnotforthegardeningeffortsofpeoplel ivingalongside.Fewtowpathusershaveanyunderstandingthatboatsarehomestotheirowners.

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668 Towpatshshouldnotbeusedforcyclemeetsandasaracetrackasexperiencedbythemorearrogantofcyclist.ItisgreatthatthehobbyhasreceivedsomuchattentionsincetheOlympic GamesLondon2012butthetowpathshouldbemaintainedforusebyeveryone.Theexpense(weassume)toCART tohavetoputup"lowbridge"signsjustforcyclistsontheT &Misludicrous!Whahashappenedtocommonsense?

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669 EssentialthatALLcyclistshaveabellorhornfittedontheirbikestogiveadequietwarning 3/31/20143:01AM

670 WhatshouldbedonetothosewhodonotadheretotheprinciplesIhavenearlybeenmoweddownbycyclistsonmanyoccasionsmostofwhomdonotevenpossessacyclebell.

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671 Wheretowpathsaredevelopedtoaccommodate"visitors"asopposedtol icence-payers,thecostshouldbebornebygovernment 3/31/20142:54AM

672 CYCLISTSSHOULDREQUIREALICENCE 3/31/20142:53AM

673 Designatedsigningandmapsofaccessibletowpathsandfacil itiesfordisabledpeople 3/31/20142:51AM

674 Moreawarenessraisingofwhatboatersneedtodowhenhandlingboats(espforcyclists),andtheinstructiontostaywellclearofanyboathandlingthatisgoingon.

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675 Yesdogs,thierownerandthepoo.Thenumberoftimedogpooisleftontowpathishorrendous.Atowpathsshouldrequiredogstobeonleadsandthereshouldbeenforcementregularly.Haveyoueverhadastrangedog,minusownerappearonyourboatandthenweeonthewelldeck.Ihave.Haveyouwokensteppedontothetowpathstraightintoapileofpoo,happensfrequently.Sopleaseenforceactivelypoocollectionandleads.Signsdonotworki tneedsbootsontheground.

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676 Makei tlawthatcycleshaveanduseabell(aswellasl iableforcollisions)thefastestusersmusttakethegreatestdutyofcare 3/31/20142:40AM

677 Adequateprovisionformooringisveryimportant.Pilingormooringringsmustbereplacedsothattowpathscanbeaccessedbyboatuserstoo.

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678 Theconditionsoftowpathsi fatallpossibleshouldbesuitableforcyclistsaswellaswalkersetc. 3/31/20142:33AM

679 anglersandtheincursionofrodsintothewater 3/31/20142:27AM

680 Thereareproblemswithpeoplethatusethecanals(tol ive)donotrespectthewaterways/towpathsandoftenleaverubbishandblockthetowpaths.Useofthecanalshouldbedependentonthosepeoplebeingcustodiansofthespaceandpeoplethatabusethatresponsibil ityshouldbeaskedtomoveon.

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681 1.Thereshouldbenorail ingsbetweenthewalkingsurfaceofthetowpathandthewater.2.Long-termmooringtothetowpathshouldbediscouraged,andreduced.Aper-nightchargeformooringtothetowpathwouldeliminatethepresentoverstayingproblem.

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682 Despitesayingthatpedestrianshavepriority,mostarehappytomakespaceforcyclists.Cyclistsneedencouragementtousebellstowarnoftheirapproach,followedby"thankyou"s

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683 Effortshouldbemadetokeepallareasoftowpathaccessiblefromthecanal.Inmayareas,andtheKennetandAvonisparticularlybad,shrubs,treesanddensereedbedshavebeenallowedtodevelopbetweenthetowpathandthecanalpreventingmooringoremergencyaccesstothetowpathbyboaters.Thisalsopreventsaboatbeingtowedfromthetowpathincaseofenginefailure.

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684 Towpathsarebecomingdangerousplacesforboaters,walkers,childrenandelderlypeople.Thedangercomesfromcyclistswhousethemasanexercisegym.Cyclistsusingtowpathsshouldcarryaregistrationnumbervisibleontheirbikejustasboatsdo.Anyincidentscanthenbeattributedandculpritsheldtoaccount.Justasonthecanalthereshouldbeaspeedl imitandsurfacesshouldnotbebroughttoastandardthatmakesfastcyclingpossible.

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685 Ithinkthefirstprincipleneedsreinforcingtoemphasiseprioritiesi fthereisconflic torpotentialconflic t.Othersmayhavedifferentviews,butIwouldarguethatlogically-andhistorically-boatershavepriorityoncanaltowpaths,followedbywalkers,followedbyfishermen(whoshouldnotbeusingroachpoles)andonlyafterthatnewaggressiveusers-cyclists,motorcyclistsetc whoshouldonlyhavepermissoryrights

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686 Yes-pleaselegislatefortheremovalofallcyclistsfromthetowpaths,withtheexceptionofboatcrewslockwheeling,andreintroducethepermitsystemfortheuseoflockwheelingcycles.

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687 Morebarriersandsignagetostopspeedingcyclists. 3/31/20142:10AM

688 Pleasedonotforgetboatcrewswhomaybeaccessingthetowpathfromaboat.Whentheydisembarktheyareoftenassessingtheriskofsteppingoverwaterbetweentheirboatandthebank.Additionalattentiontoassesstheriskfromspeedingbicyclesisnotusuallyatthetopoftheirpriorities.

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689 Perhapswrittenguidance(signagewithphonenumbers)forwhattodoi finappropriatebehaviouriswitnessedegdogfouling,vandalismordroppingofl i tter.

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690 Canalswerebuiltforboatingandthereforeboating,useoflocks,movablebridge,windingholes,mooringsandlockwheelingbybikeshouldbetheprimeuseoftowpathsatalltimes.Fromthosei tseemsquiteOKtoencouragewalking,dogwalkingandresponsiblecyclingtoo.Wherehorseboatingcouldbefacil itatedthenhorseridingcouldpresumablyusesuitablyupgradedpathsandotherhorsefacil ities.Therearelotsofotherplacesforfishingbylargenumbersofpeopleandcertainlycompetitionsshouldtakeplaceonnon-navigablewaterandneveronnarrowcanals.

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691 Engagementwiththeneighbours(adjoiningproperties)ofthecanalfronttoensurethatmutualinterestsandpotentialforimprovementarebalanced.

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692 Attentionneedstobegiventol i tteralongthetowpath,whichinpartsisshockingandsometimeslooksl ikei t'sfromboaters-flytippingetc,aretheynotchallenged?

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693 Putl i tteretc inbins. 3/31/20141:52AM

694 Cyclistsshoulddismount10meithersideofalock. 3/31/20141:50AM

695 Weboaterspaytousethecanals,sowhynotchargecyclistsatollasthecontinuoususagedoessomedamagetothetowpath. 3/31/20141:49AM

696 Althoughi tisobviousthattowpathsareforeverybodytousethereisnomentionofboatersmooring,theotherhistoric reasonbesideshorsespullingboatsforthemtoexist,boatersandImeanproperboatersoftenfeelexcluded,theemphasisbeinggiventocyclistsmanyofwhomconsidertheyowntheroutesorfishermenwhospreadtheirgearirrespectiveofotherusers.

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697 Whatmeasuresyouareconsideringtoensurecyclistsreducetheirspeed 3/31/20141:47AM

698 Responsibledogownershipandadviceonmooredboats/mooring. 3/31/20141:47AM

699 Thereisacompleteabsenceofanymentionoftheneedsoftheboaterwhomaystopatanyplaceandrequirethesafetytohandleropesand,say,holdaboatwhileapropiscleared.Spaceisrequiredtostandbackwithouttheconcernthatasilentfastmovingcyclistmayarrive.Boatingactivitiesshouldhavepriority

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700 Likeboaters,cyclistsshouldbeencouragedtohavethirdpartyinsurancei ftheyareusingsharedtowpaths 3/31/20141:37AM

701 Towpathsarepartofacanalsystemthatwasbuiltforboats.Thatisthefirstprinciple 3/31/20141:37AM

702 Makecyclistspayl iketheyusedto-boatershavetopayandwegetmoanedatandknockeddownandharrasedbycyclists 3/31/20141:36AM

703 Theprinciplethattheyshouldbemanagedpositivelyforfuturegenerationuse.Andconservedassuch 3/31/20141:30AM

704 Cyclistshouldbeawarethatdeafpeople,(notalwaysold!)cannothearthemapproaching,cannothearbells,shoutingetc.Sowillnotgetoutoftheirway&arenotawareofwhichwaytostepoutoftheirpath.Thisisnotdeliberate&beingabusivewillnotsolvetheproblem.IncidentlyIdocycle,butwithawingmirror!

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705 Iwasn'tsurewhattheprinciplesabouthorseswas..probablyneedssomeexplanationsomewhere 3/31/20141:13AM

706 Allusersshouldpaytosupporttheupkeepandcleanlinessofthecanalsandtowpaths. 3/31/201412:20AM

707 Cyclistshouldhavetoshowrespectforotherusersiedismountincertainareasandtravelandspeedsthatdonotthreatenotherusers

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708 Asanangleripaytousethewaterandtheaccessshouldbel icencedtoanyotheruser.Manypeopleusethesetopathsandcanbeverybuseyespinbuiltupareassoaspeedl imitshouldbeintroducedforbikersasboatsare

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709 Wardens 3/30/20146:47AM

710 Litterandrubbishincanalsshouldberemovedaspriority,notonlybanksidebutinthecanalsimprovingqualityofwater. 3/30/20143:05AM

711 Licensingcyclists 3/30/20142:53AM

712 Thatthereshouldbeacommitmenttotheongoingupgradeofallcanaltowpaths 3/30/20141:30AM

713 Abalancebetweenhistoric use,wildlife,safeaccess 3/29/20143:22PM

714 AsoutlinedinmyresponsesIbelievecyclingistoodangerousontowpaths.Physicalorfinancialbarriersaretheonlywaytodeterspeedingcyclists.

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715 Thereisabolutelynomentionintheproposedcodeofconductforusersaboutpedestrians,boatsandparticularlycyclistsanddogwalkersbeingconsideratetowardsanglersandtheirequipment.Iekeepingdogsonleadsandundercontrolnotleapingalloverpeople'sfishinggearandintimidatingchildrenfishing,alsocyclistsshouldbeslowingdownwhenanglersareonthebankandmakingallowancesfortheshorttimeswhentacklemaybeacrossthetowpathwhiletheanglershipshis/hergearbackout.ThisseemsaveryobviousomissioninthecodeespeciallyastheanglersandboatersinthemainpaythemostdirectlytotheCanal&RiversTrusttobethere.

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716 R&CT workingtoimproveaccessibil ityforallinareasoutofthemoreurbanisedareas,egimprovingtowpaths,regularlycuttingbackbanksidevegetation

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717 Ifeeli tisimportantthatusebyhorseridersshouldbeencouragedtorevisittheheritageusage-aslongasi tisdonesensibly 3/28/20143:10PM

718 Regularmaintenanceprogramandpriorityforboaters 3/28/20142:16PM

719 Howwillincreasedtowpathusageaffectpeoplewhol iveonoradjacenttothecanals?Amenityneedstobebalancedwiththeneedforpeaceandquietwhereappropriate.

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720 Areasofthecanalstowpathsshouldbesetasidetoonlyallowboating/angling/walkingasturningthetowpathsintominihighwayswillnotkeepthemasthetranquilareasallowingpeoplethefreedomtogetawayfromtheirbusyl ives

3/28/201411:59AM

721 Cyclistsshouldslowdownwhenpassingmooredboats.Asaboaterinmoreisolatedareas,Iwillpoponandofftheboatnotexpectingacyclistzoomingby.Boaterswhenmooredshouldbecarefulnottofi l lthetowpathwithalltheirbelongingsandleaveroomfortowpathuserstopassuninterrupted.

3/28/201411:53AM

722 AlthoughthefreeaccessprincipleshouldbeupheldIassumeanglersandboaterswillstil lbechargedformatchesandmooringetc andwhere/whenthesetakeplaceextraprovisionsshouldbemadesuchascyclebansorextranotices

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723 Signageandinformationiskeybutdon'twantcanalenvironmenttobecomeal ikeamunicipalroute 3/28/20149:43AM

724 Cyclistsshouldgivewarningoftheirapproachandshouldslowdownandgiveconsiderationtoboatersatmooringsserviceblockyetc.

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725 Anglingshouldbespecificallyprioritisedandencouraged.Atthemomenti tis"somethingthatjustsortofhappens" 3/28/20148:21AM

726 HowarethePrinciplestobeenforcedandwhatistobedonebyinconsideratetowpathusers? 3/28/20148:00AM

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727 Howcancyclistsetc.,usetowpathswhereanglersusethoseincrediblylongrods?Iusedtouseanarrowboat,andsomeanglerswerereluctant,and,annoyed,athavingtoretractthemfromthewatertoallowustopass.Thiscanalsobethecaseonthetowpaths.Iappreciatethatmanyanglersarefair,andotherusersmaybedifficult,butinordertoenjoymulti-useraccess,weallhavetoworktogether.

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728 Reportingandactionagainstanti-socialboatersthatfoulthetowpath.Wehaveseenboatersurinating,blockingthetowpathwiththeirbbqequipmentandgazebo's,settingupanoutdoorcinemawithprojectionsontoawhitesheetcompletewithloudsound,allowingtheirdogstofouldthetowpathandusheringthembackontotheboatsquicklywithoutclearingupandmanymoreIcan'trememberoverthepast14yearswehavel ivedhere.

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729 Thatallusersshouldpaytousethecanalsandtowpathsinthesamewaythatmotorisedboatsandanglerspay.Itisgrosslyunfairthatanglers,whobylawannuallypayalargesumtofishinpeaceandtranquill i tyonthetowpathshouldhavetheirdaysruinedbyasurfeitofcyclistsandhorseriderswhopaynothing.

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730 Prioritytonavigationassistancemustbeobservedbyallothergroups.Thisisafterallwhatthewaterwaysandtowpathswereconstructedfor.

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731 Codeofconductandspeedsafety.Useofbellsoncyclesshouldbelegalised.Speedoftravelshouldberegulated.Safetyforallusersshouldbetheparamountconcern.

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732 Aprincipalofsharedusenotonewhereonegroupofusershaspriorityoveranother 3/28/20144:34AM

733 Anglingoncentrallondoncanalshasbecomealmostnoneexistantduetotheincreasedcycleusagemaybesectionsoftowpathcouldbeclosedondesignateddaystopromoteangling

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734 moreemphasisonsafeequestrianuseasi tispartofi tshistory 3/28/20141:48AM

735 Canaltowpathsarevitalroutesforavoidingbusyroads.Theyarewonderfuloasis'sofcalmandtranquill i tyandafantasticresourceweshouldtreasureandimprovewithoutdestroyingtheirverynature.

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736 Horsesshouldbeallowedbackonthetowpaths. 3/27/201411:48PM

737 Increasedmonitoringandprosecutionorindividualsnotabidingbytherulesorcausinghavoc/dangeralongroutes 3/27/201411:14AM

738 Bridgesmademoreaccessibletowheeledusersbyplacingrampsonthesteps. 3/27/20148:49AM

739 whoisgoingtodredgethecanalswhentheyaresiltedupandboatsaregettingstuck,andwhoisresponsiblefortherestockingoffishaftertheyhaveallbeeneatenbyzander,mink,cormaronts,andeasterneuropeans.

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740 Yes-thevegpledgeneedsamention 3/27/20147:28AM

741 Wildlifehabitatsshouldbemoreofapriority.ongoingmaintenanceneedstobementionedintehprinciples 3/26/20141:42PM

742 Towpathsshouldbeusedwithaclearreasoninmind,theyareasocialspacewhichrequiresawarenessofotherusersneedsasgroupsandasindividuals.Thetowpathhasapacesetbythepassageofthenarrowboat.Thosewhowishtoraceaboutshoulduserelevantfacil ities.

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743 Enforcement 3/25/20141:52AM

744 Itshouldbestatedthattowpathsareprincipallyforboatinguseandthatothersmayusethemwithconsideration. 3/25/201412:08AM

745 Ifi tistobepromotedforcyclingthenthetowpathsurfacechouldberegularlyupkeptonbusyroutesespinurbanareas 3/24/20145:03PM

746 Theprincipleofspeed.Towpathsshouldhaveamaximumspeedl imitasdothecanals.CyclistsshouldwalkandtowpathsshouldnotbecomepartofthenationalcyclenetworkbySustrans.

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747 Remembertheboaters!Thetowpathisaveryimportantpartoftheirl i fe 3/24/20143:34PM

748 Yesboaterswhopayforusingthemseemtobesomewhatmissingfromallyourprinciples.Morethanhappytowelcomeeverybodyontothetowpaths,butsomeneedtorememberwhytheyareACTUALLYthere

3/24/20142:50PM

749 Themainprincipleisthatthesenavigationsweremadeforboats,andassuchboatersshouldfigurealothigherinthisl istofprinciples.Alotofthepeoplewhocometovisitourwaterwayscometowatchtheboats.Alsoboaterspayahighpremiumtousethesewaterwaysandindoingso,keepthemnavigable

3/24/201410:32AM

750 PriorityforBoatsshouldbetopoverallothers 3/24/201410:02AM

751 Towpathisprimarilyfortheuseofthosewhopayfori t,i .e.BoatersandAnglers. 3/24/20145:04AM

752 Itshouldbemadecleartowalkersandcycliststhattheygetthetowpathsforfree--butthattheycancontributetoCRT.Cyclistsshouldbemadetobemoreconsiderate.

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753 separatecyclistsfromnotherusers 3/24/20143:21AM

754 Inurbanandotherbusyareasdogsneedtobekeptundercontrol,notlettorunloose.Dogfaecesmustbeclearedupbydogowners.

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755 Ithinkmorecouldbedonetopromoteconsiderateuseofthetowpath.I'mthinkingofrecklesscyclistsandcrazydogsnotonleads.Thesetwothingsdon'tmix!

3/24/20143:09AM

756 Thecanalsbeingmainlyforboating(theyaretheonlyuserswhopay)seemstobeverylowinthepriorities. 3/24/20141:23AM

757 Noincreaseintowingpathwidth.Nofishingmatches.Thefishingcloseseasonshouldbere-introduced.Strictpenaltiesonblockingtowingpathsanddumpingrubbish,inc ludingashesinhedgerows.Priorityforboatswithin50metresoflockstobeenforced.

3/24/20141:21AM

758 Aproposalonsomemuchneededcycling'speedl imits'andamethodofenforcingthem. 3/23/201411:56PM

759 Thetowpathcodeisgood,howeverthereisnomentionastohowi twillbeenforceable.Forexample,inmyexperience,cyclistsalthoughtheyringabellwhenapproaching,NEVERslowdownandalwaysexpecttohaverightofway,Ihaveoftenhadtojumpontomuddygroundtoletthemby.AlsoIhaveseenanincreasingnumberofmotorcyclistsonthetowpath,notonlyendangeringthesafetyofpeople,butcausingdamagetothepaths.Iwouldalsol iketomentionhemanydogwalkerswhohavetheiranimalsoffaleadbarkingandgrowlingatanyonewhocomesnear.

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760 Boatersarenowherenearashighapriorityintheseprinciplesastheyshouldbe.Safeuseoftowpathforboaterstopulltheirboatinusingropeswithoutbeingforcedoutofthewaybycyclistsandrunningclubsandcanoeistsusingthetowpathisvitalforeveryone'ssafety.Preservetheuseoftowpathsforboatersasholdingrightofwayatalltimes.

3/23/20144:38PM

761 Ifyouwalkalongthetowpathsyouwillmostlybewalkinginmud!Bikesarechurningupthepoorlymaintainedsurfaces.Ifcouncilsarntwill ingtohelppayforthetowpathstobemaintainedthentheyshouldbeclosedtothegeneralpublic harshbutthetowpathsareamessandfullofrubbishmostlyleftbywalkers/cyclistsandmostlyfishermenmakethemostmess

3/23/20144:08PM

762 Segregationofhigh-speedtraffic fromwalkingpaceuserspolic ingofspeedl imitsminimumtowpathwidthforsharedlow-speeduseRecognitionofthe'firstcomefirstserved'principleofuseClearpolicystatementofexclusivenessforboatusewithin100moflocklandings,visitormooringsandoppositeoff-sidemooringsorwithin200mofmarinaentrances.

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763 Notreallyactually,butIwantedtomakesurethaticouldaskthatcyclistsaren'tpenalisedforthesakeofafewnuttersonbikes.Don'tintroducemeasuresthatareartific ialorimpossibletonavigatewithtrailers,tandems,recumbentsetc forthesakeofi tplease.

3/23/20147:59AM

764 Encouragingbargeusersnottoencroachonthetowpathwiththeirpossessionsandl i tteraswell. 3/23/20144:51AM

765 Towpathsneedtobeproperlymaintainedandwasteremoved.Cutbramblesareahazardtocyclistsandariskforvulnerablepeopleinremotelocations.TowpathsneedtobemonitoredbyCCTVinplaceswheretheymaybesubjecttoantisocialbehaviour(egdrugs)

3/23/20142:41AM

766 Althoughtheconditionofthetowpathsandcanalsisimportantthehistoryofthecanalboatmenandtheirwayofl i feisalsoimportantandshouldbepreserved.manyfamilieshasresearchedtheirboatingfamilyhistoryandmayhaveresearchedsocialhistoryofthecanalsaswell,someiswellresearchedandaplaceforthisvaluableinsightandhistoryshouldalsobefoundandpreservedforgenerationstocome.TheRoundHouseBirminghamwouldbeanidealmuseumandvisitorscentre

3/22/20144:44AM

767 (1)Wheretowpathsaredesignatedas"greenways"forthepurposesofplanning,theyshouldbe"turf-creted".Inwintertheconditiongetssopoorthatthetowpathsbecomeessentiallyimpassable(2)wheretowpathsarenarrow"commuting"cyclingshouldbediscouragedasthisbecomesdangerousinaconfinedspace(3)Inanyeventclearnoticesshouldbepostedatallingresspointsaddressingcyclistsandrequestingspeedtobeconstrained

3/21/20143:42PM

768 Towpathsshouldencouragepeopletol ingerbyofferingoccasionallargerareasofbankingi fachievable,withseatingorpicnicareas.

3/21/201410:26AM

769 Cyclistswhoignorenocyclingsignsoncertainpartsoftowpathse.g.nearLittleVenicetoWestbourneParkshouldbefined. 3/21/201410:20AM

770 Themainpurposeoftowpathsisforboatingandthisshouldtakeprecedence;anyotherusersshouldgivewaytoboatcrews 3/21/20149:47AM

771 Forcyclists:Slowdowntopassothercyclistsandshoutawarning/ringyourbell,theymaynothaveseen/heardyou 3/21/20149:45AM

772 Concentrateeffortsonpathsl inkingcentresofpopulation/employment,notjustpicturesquetouristareas.Off-roadcyclepathsareaveryrareandvaluablecommutingfacil ity,awayfromthedangerandpollutioncausedbycars.Commuterroutesforbikesshouldbegivenextraattention

3/21/20145:40AM

773 Theredoes,Ithink,existarequirementonsomepathsthatcyclistsshouldgetapermitbeforeusingthem.Thisoutdatedsystemshouldbeabolished.

3/21/20141:08AM

774 goodcommunicationsbetweenthevariedusesalongthetowpath,nobodywantsanyaccidents,whowouldbetoblamei facyclistataslowspeedwasknockedbyaboaternotlookingwhilemooringup,andapersonisknockedintothecanal.icyclebutsomethingmustbedonetokeepcycliststoasteadysafespeed

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775 Horseridingshouldbeconsideredaspartofanymulti-usetrack 3/20/20144:34AM

776 itisacaseofmutualrespectforallusers 3/20/201412:18AM

777 Clearprinciplethatthepathisanalternativeslowerrouteandisnotanotherroadforcycliststoabuseinuse.Iwantthepathsavailableforleisurecyclingbutamawareofhowmanycyclists,onadailybasis,misusepavements,crossings,etc.

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778 thatwherethereareparticularproblemswithstretchesofatowpaththelocalactionshouldbetaken,egwherewehavelotsofjoggerswhowontslowdownorbudgeastheyrunatyou;thedogshitalleyareas,theareswithdogsnotonleadsanddangeroustootherusers,groupswhoblocktheentirepath..weneededucationbutwealsoneedsomemeansofenforcementinsomeareassoaprincipletotacklespecific problemareasshouldbeinc luded

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779 Educationinschools-principlesofcourteoussharing. 3/19/201411:38AM

780 Theuseofpropertowpathmooringspaces;withmooringringsorplacestoputpins/chainsasnecessary 3/19/201410:45AM

781 Perhapsaspeedl imitforbikes-whataboutthegrowthofelectric bikes-theyshouldbeexcluded-butthenwhataboutmobilityscooters.Ithinkyouneedtobeclearthatthesearetowpathsfortowingboatsandnotcycletracks.Ifyouwanttocyclethemfine-buti tswithinthecontextofwhattheseroutesarefornotasperseacycletrack

3/19/201410:01AM

782 Moreuseofinformationboardstoeducatetowpathusersthatsharingthistreasuredresourceisveryimportant,sothatalluserscanenjoythecanal.

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783 Allcanalshaveheritage,thisshouldbepromotedandspecialsitesinparticular.Moreuseofcanalscouldbeencouragedbywalkstalksandpromotionofspecialsites.

3/19/20148:34AM

784 Boatersandfishermen/womenhavepriority. 3/19/20145:33AM

785 Pleaserecognisethattowpathsareanimportantaccess/egresspointfor:a)wildlife-pleasetakethisintoaccountindesigns!b)canoeistsandkayakers

3/19/20143:44AM

786 Promoteprotectionofwildlife,installandmaintaininterpretationboards. 3/19/20143:11AM

787 Preservethecharacteroftowpaths-don'tturnthemintosanitizedhealth&safetywastelands. 3/19/20143:05AM

788 Thesurveydoesnotraisethequestionoftheuseofatowpathasaquay.BW806LoxwoodWestSussexfollowsthetowpathroutealongtheWeyandArunCanal.ItcontinuesalongthecanalasBW809.Inrecentyearsthequayhasbeendeveloped,whereboatsaredockedforpleasurerides,avisitorcentrehasbeenbuilt,andthevisitornumbersandeventsincreased.TheBWshouldprovidesafepassageforequestrians,whonowfindthepathisunsuitableatweekends.

3/19/20141:38AM

789 Cuttingbackvegetationtopreventtowpathobstruction.Ensuringthattheneedsofboatersaretheprimeconsideration. 3/19/20141:29AM

790 Boatsaredesignedtogoalongcanals.Thereareavsmallminorityofboaterswhorarelymoveand"posess"thetowpaththeyhog.Therequirementtokeepmovingaroundshouldbebetterenforced.

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791 Anglersshouldnotbeencouragedtoblockthetowpathwithpolesandotherequipment 3/18/20141:18PM

792 principlesshouldmakeequalresponsibil itytobesafeandcourteoustoothersregardlessofspeed.theprinciplesshouldnotbeissuedwithoutclarificationofwhatthetrustslegalandorcivilpositioniswithrespecttoenforcement,astheprinciplesreadtodayandthesurveyquestionsi tappearsthatyouaremovingtoattempttobansomeusergroupsfromthenetwork.thisisunfairgiventhatvirtuallyalluseofthenetworkisforleisurethusnousergroupshouldhavepriorityorfavouroveranother.

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793 Theemphasisonsharingneedsbemademostcleartopedestrians.Someseemtotakethematterofwalkershavingpriorityassomerighttobeawkwardandobstructivetothoseonvehic les,thoughthisisaminority.

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794 AsacyclistIthinkmeaninglessgatesonthetowpathshouldberemoved.TherearemanygatesbetweenSkiptonandBarnoldswickontheLeedsLiverpoolCanalthatservenopurpose,orcouldbeleftinanopenpositionbydefaultandthefarmer(orwhoever)closesi twhenrequiredfor,say,movinghisanimals.

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795 LITTER!Il iveinMiddlewichandworkforXXXX inSandbachIunderstandthatBW(aswas)paidfortheinstallationofl i tteranddogbinsandthelocalcouncilundertooktheemptyingofsame.Middlewichisa'spaghettijunction'ofthesystemandapopularhireboatbase.Thesebinsfi l lVERYquicklytoapointofoverflowwhichleavesabadimpressiontovisitorsandlocalsalike.Mywifeconstantlyhastoemailthecounciltogetthememptied.They,ofcourse,alsousedbydozensofdogwalkers,myselfinc ludedtodisposeofdogwaste.Suggestion:1.Liasewithlocalcouncilstoconfirmtheyarestil lcommittedtotheemptying.2.Removethemfromtowpathsalltogether.Idoubti fthesituationwouldbeanyworse.Responsibletowpathusers/boaterswilldisposeofwaste/litteranyway.3.Investigatepossibil ityoflocalbusinesses(especiallyboatorcanalrelated)tosponsorexistingandadditionall i tterbinsinreturnforadvertisingonthebinsthemselves.Withlocalcouncilexpenditurestil lbeingsqueezedIbelieveonlyoptions2&3arerealistic.

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796 Althoughthenaturalecologyofcanalandriverbankisimportant,i tissecondarytousingthetowpathforhumanmultiuse. 3/18/20149:05AM

797 Questionaboutl ighting-manyuserswillnotconsiderunlittraffic-freepathsafterdark.ReactiveLEDl ightingnowcost-effective. 3/18/20148:14AM

798 Thereneedstobemoredogpoobinstoencouragepeopletopickupaftertheirdogs. 3/18/20147:19AM

799 principleoftherightofnavigationandtheabuilitytopasswithoutobstruction.occasionalythereisarequirmentforbaotstohaveropesaccrossthetowpathsbutthisisrare.howeveri tisaregularoccuranceforthetowpathtobeblocked,mainlybypeoplefishingandinparticulartheirtents.

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800 Accessshouldbeasopenaspossible,andaccesscontrolsystemseliminated,ordesignedbettertoavoidtheexclusionofseveraltypesofwelcomeuser.

3/18/20144:08AM

801 Acommittmenttoopenaccessasaprinciple-notjustasanicetohave.Acommitmenttomaintainopenaccesseveni fi tcoststheeC&TRmoney.

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802 Theprincipleshouldbethatwhereverthereisorhasbeenatowpath,thetrustshouldbeaimingtokeepthattowpathopenandusablebycyclistsandpedestrians-ortore-openi twherei thasbeenblockedornearbylandownershaveannexedpartsofi t.Towpathusersshouldrecognisethattheyhaveadutynottoobstructthetowpathforothers(yes,Iamthinkingofanglershere!)

3/17/20144:53PM

803 Tradingboatersmooredalongthetowpath 3/17/20142:01PM

804 Visitorstotowpathmustshowrespectandtolerancetoothers,makeotherpeople'sexperiencepleasantandbecourteous. 3/17/201411:27AM

805 Thetowpathcannotbeallthingstoallpeople.It'saspracticalasindoorhandgliding? 3/17/201410:58AM

806 Differentprinciplescanapplyindifferentlocations-forexample,over-useoftowpathsismostlyanissueinLondonasfarasI''maware,andurbanconditionsandusagearedifferenttoruraltowpaths.Generally,improvementsshouldbenefitallusers,oratleastimprovementsforonegroupofusersshouldnotbesignificantlydetrimentaltoothergroups.

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807 Accessibil ityisreallyimportant,thetowpathsinBirminghamareabsolutelybril l ianthoweverasyougofartheroutofthecitytheyjustdeterioratewhenyougettotunnelsandsignpostingisverybad.

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808 Responsibil ityofcanaltrusttoprovebinsandplacestoleavedogmess 3/16/20143:22PM

809 Thequalityofthetowpathiscrucialtowideruse;no-onewantstowalk/cycle/jogthroughquagmires. 3/16/20141:33PM

810 Afterhorsestowingboats,pedestriansshouldhaverightofway.Cyclistsshouldslowdowntolessthan8MPHanywherewheretheyhavetopasspedestriansandshouldbepreparedtostopwhilepedestriansmovetotheside.

3/16/201410:54AM

811 InPrinciple1,in"establisheduses"cycling(forleisure)shouldbeinc luded. 3/16/20149:54AM

812 Moreinterestshouldbeshowntoboaters.Theyprovidemoremoneythanothercanal/towpathusersbutdon'tseemtogetmuchconsiderationfromCART.

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813 Whatismissingisthefactthatthetowpathswouldnotexisti fi twerenotforthecanalsandboaters.Anyusesnotconnectedwiththeseusesshouldbesecondaryandshouldbemodifiedtotakesecondplace.

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814 Cyclistcanbeamenacetopeacefulactivitywhentheroutebecomespopularwiththem.Inowavoidsomeofmyfavouriteplacesastheyhavebecomeoverusedbyinconsideratecyclists,IgottothepointofbeingnervousaboutstoopingdowntopickupmydogsleavingsasIwasl ikelytobehitbyacyclistgoingtoofast.

3/16/201412:12AM

815 Canalsaretome'ribbonsoftranquility'wherethepaceofl i feisslowerandallusersshouldbecourteoustoeachother 3/15/20142:17PM

816 Whenrestoringtowpathstheaimshouldbetoprovidesuffic ientwidthtoenablewalkersandcycliststopasseachotherfreely-atleast3metres

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817 Notquitesurewhatyouareaskinghere,buti tisVERYimportantthattowpathsaremaintainedprimarilyforthebenefitofboaters.Withoutboaters,thenumberofvisitorswilldropdramatically.Doyourememberwhatthestinkingditcheswerel ikebeforetherestorationofthecanalsinthe'70sand'80s?Byboaters.

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818 interpretandencourageanunderstandingofthehistoryofthewaterwaysandsurroundsforallusers 3/15/201411:56AM

819 Thepresenceoftowpathsshouldbeadefacto'motortraffic free'routeforpeopleusingbikesandnotablyforcommuting. 3/15/201410:58AM

820 Thesurfacesoftowpathsshouldbesafeforalllegitimateusersatallseasons.(havinghadaverymuddypathsendmeintotheGrandUnionCanal-wheelstuck-suddenlycomeloose-splash)

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821 advicetoanglerstoprohibitblockingtowpathswiththeirfishingrods 3/15/201410:06AM

822 Basicallyjustneedtoemphasisethatourtowpathsareasharedresourceforusebyall.Andthatnoparticularlegitimategroupshouldbestigmatisedasa'problem'.

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823 1.Allusersshouldpayafairandequitableamounttousethetowpaths.2.Thatthereiseffectiveenforcementofregulationsetc.forthosecyclingontowpaths.

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824 Iamconcernedabouttheuseof'ideally'inconnectionwithashortleadwithreferencetowalkingdogsalongtowpaths.Ibelievethatdogsshouldalwaysbekeptonashortleadinaconfinedpublic space.Thisshouldapplywhethertherearemanyothermembersofthepublic aroundornot.

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825 I'veoccassionallyhad'words'withanglerswhoareundertheimpressionthattoobstructatowpathbylayingtheirfishingpole(s)acrossi tistheirrightbecausetheypayal icencefeetofish.ThereforethereneedstobeanunderstandingthatthetowpathsandriversidepathsarethereforALLnotjustthosepaytofishforthem.

3/15/20144:15AM

826 Noticesrequestingcyclistsdismount.Noticesrequestingboatersclearuptheirrubbishbeforemovingoff. 3/15/20143:54AM

827 Regulatedevelopmentsalongcanaltowpathssothattheydon'tturnintoextensionsof'myfrontyard'areaswithsedentaryactivitiesorcommercialisedspaceswhichblockwalkerscyclistsetc.

3/15/20142:08AM

828 Youhavecompletelyignoredtheissueofdogcrap,butIwillnotbedrawnpnthatissue. 3/14/201411:54PM

829 speedingcyclistsanddogmessneed'stobeaddressedmore. 3/14/20146:44PM

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830 Peoplealsoneedtobemadeawarethatastranquilasi tmayappear,i tcanbeadangerousplace.Picnicslocksidesarenotgoodideas,norarel ightingopenfiresontowpaths,bathing-swimming-fishinginthewatersaroundboatscanleadtoaccidents,fishermenfishingnearorlocksidescauseproblemsforboatermakingaccesstotowpathdifficult.Moredogbinsareneededeverywhereandbylocks,plustheyneedtobeemptiedregular,andl i tterbinsneedtobeplacedfrequentlyalongwalkingareasinthehopethatthepublic willusethem,insteadofl i tteringwhereissuitsthem.Dogsshouldbekeptonleadsloosedogsaroundpeopleworkinglockscanbedangerious.

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831 Recognitionbyallusersthatacanaltowpathonlyexiststoenableboating.Thatiswhytheywerebuiltandanyotheruseisasecondaryby-product.Thissurveyseemstohavegotthisover-ridingprinciplebackwardsinsomanybiasedandloadedstatements.

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832 PleaseseemyresponsetoQ5 3/14/20143:17PM

833 Visitorstothetowpathshouldunderstandtheneedsofboaterstobeabletoaccessthetowpath,tobeabletomoortothetowpath,andtheneedforprivacy.Mosthouse-ownerswould,nodoubt,objecti fastrangerwastoentertheirgardenandstarethroughtheirhousewindows!

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834 Howareyougoingtomanageuserconflic t???Disturbance.LitterUnrulybehaviourNoise 3/14/20142:22PM

835 canalsareprimarilyforuseofboaters 3/14/20142:12PM

836 Stoppissingabouttryingtoturnthecanalsintosomekindofnafffamilyfunthemepark.Insteadofwastingafortuneonyourpointlesspetprojects,trylookingafterthebasic infrastructurebetter-yourmaintenanceofbridges,locks,etc.isdismal.

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837 Signagetotellcycliststhatpedestrianshaverightofwayoverthem,dogsshouldbekeptonshortleads. 3/14/20141:50PM

838 Barriersshouldnotbeerectedwhichmakei tnecessaryforcycliststowiggletheirbikethrowithdifficulty,l ikewisetandems,wheelchairsandpushchairs.

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839 AllDogsonleadsallofthetime;dogownerscleanuptheirpetsmessandnotthrowi tintothecanal.Cyclistsgiverightofwaytowalkers.Whencuttingbackalongthecanal,thornybushclippingsshouldberemovedfromthetowpath

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840 footpathrepairsmooringringsandwaterpoints 3/14/20141:17PM

841 Aninterestinyoupayingcustomersieboaters 3/14/20141:09PM

842 MentionofthewordBOATSorBOATERSnowandthen,asthetowpathsarethereforthecanal,andneedtoserveBOATSandBOATERSaboveallotherthings.

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843 Thisquestionnaireappearstobemoreof"thisiswhatwearegoingtodo,showuswewererightdoingi t",wheni tshouldbebasedonthefundamentalprincipleofthewaterwaysareforboating-letsaskboatershowwecanaccomodateotherusers

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844 Informationthatthewaterwaysarefortheuseofeveryoneandeveryoneshouldtreatthemandotheruserswithrespect. 3/14/201412:40PM

845 Properringedmooringsforboatsandmorebinsforgeneralrubbishanddogbins.Also,morebenchesatappropriateplaces 3/14/201412:40PM

846 Weneedsomesortofcodeforalltowpathusersthatisenforceable. 3/14/201411:20AM

847 Thetowpathisprimarilymaintainedini tsrelationtoboating,andthemooringofboats. 3/14/201410:50AM

848 Thepriorityshouldbeonthefacil itatingtheuseofcanalsandriversforboaters 3/14/201410:23AM

849 Anoverreachingprinciplethattheneedsofboatsandboaterstakepriorityoverallotheruses.Afterall,i ftherewerenoboats,therewouldbenocanals,andnotowpaths.

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850 Navigationandthesupportofnavigationshouldtakepriority. 3/14/201410:05AM

851 Extensiontoallowcyclingonallsectionsofcanals 3/14/201410:05AM

852 Boaterrequirements 3/14/20149:55AM

853 WhatismissingisthatanoverallperceptionofwhataCanalshouldlookl ikeismissing.Shouldi tlookl ikea"ThemePark"ora"Living,breathing,vibrantwaterwaywithboatsnavigatingi tslength.

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854 Itmaybeeasierformorepeopletofollowthissurveyi fthequestionswerenotaskedinmiddlemanagementgobbledegookspeak. 3/14/20149:47AM

855 Specificallyforcyclistsandanglersanddogwalkers.CyclistsshouldNOT usethetowpathsasraceways.Towpathsareforgentlestroll ing,perhapsl ightjoggingandleisurely,consideratecycling.AnglersshouldbemadeVERYawarethatthecanalsareforboatsandthattheirhugepolesDOgetinthewayandalsoobstructtowpathuserswhentheypullthemin.Dogwalkersshouldbemadetomuzzletheirdogswheninpublic places.Alldogscanbedangerousandevenasmalldogcaninfl ic taseriouswoundonasmallchild.

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856 Idon'tseemuchaboutanyboaters. 3/14/20149:30AM

857 Theiraidtonavigationandprovidingaplacetoenterandexitaboat.Alsoaplacetoattachdevicesformooringboats.Thesearetheirprimaryuses,therestaresecondary.

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858 Thebiggestproblemontowpathsisdogsownersandcyclists,theseneedaddressingurgently. 3/14/20149:25AM

859 Idon'tl ikesignsbutontowpathsusersneedtobereminded-alongwithdogowners-tobecourteoustoothersandaclearindicationastowhogiveswaytowho.

3/14/20149:00AM

860 Aggressiverumblesurfacing(sometimesfoundunderbridges)shouldberemoved.Manytowpathsshouldbewidened,bettersigningoflowbridges.

3/14/20146:26AM

861 fishingpeopleobstructingtowpathsandlockoperations 3/14/20146:13AM

862 Maximisetheopportunitythattowpathsoffer,donotrestrictusage. 3/14/20144:40AM

863 Speedsigns! 3/14/20144:19AM

864 Cyclistsshouldabidebythecodeofconductwhileusingtowpaths,especiallyinLondon. 3/14/20143:55AM

865 Youneedtorecognizethatwhateverprinciplesyouestablishnoteveryonewillabidebythemandthisisl ikelytobeapointofupset

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866 Theaimofrestoringcanalsandriversasviabletransportl inksforbulkunperishablegoods. 3/14/20143:04AM

867 Accesspointsforcanoeists,wherecyclistsslowdownandpaddlerscanembarksafely.Towpathsareimportanttotravelalongbutalsoanaccesspointforcanoeiststogetontothewater

3/14/20142:02AM

868 Asboatersarethemainusersoftowpathsconsiderationshouldbegiventothemfarmorethananyoneelse 3/14/20141:34AM

869 Eachtypeofpotentialtowpathusershouldhaveaspecific l istofprinciplesapplyingtothem. 3/13/20147:05PM

870 Payasyougoandnotonlyboaters,i fthetowpathisapublic rightofwayandfreetousethensoshouldtheactualwaterwaynbefree,allusersshouldcontributetothecostofthecanals,seemsfairtome

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871 Howaboutyouaskproperquestions!Andwhereinthis'survey'areboatersconsidered,anddon'tsayhorseboatersthereisn'tmorethanadozenoutof34000boaters.

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872 Towpath'sshouldbemaintainedtoastandardthatcanbeusedsafelyandwithoutmudandgrime.usersshouldbeabletoshareandappreciateeachotherandallusersshouldcontributeinsomeway

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873 clarityoverhorseusage 3/13/20142:50PM

874 Theprincipalthatcontinuouscanalbasedroutesbetweensuburbsandcitycentrearevaluableresourcesthatoughttobeexploitedtothemaximumpossibleextentfortransportationpurposes.

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875 Boatsarepeopleshomes,eveni fjustforashorttime.Pleaserespectthis.Usboatersarefriendlyfolkbuttherearel imits. 3/13/20141:44PM

876 Stopfishermenl ightingfiresonthetowpath 3/13/20141:44PM

877 Moreaboutpreservingtheheritageofthepeopleofthewaterwayswhetheri t'soldstyleworkingboatsorthenewtradersonthecutmakingtheirl iving

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878 Wheelchair&disabilityscooteraccessshouldbepromotedandimprovedanddiscriminatorybarrierstosuchaccessshouldberemoved.Careshouldbetakenwithsignsnottopromoteselfrighteouspeopleintoseekingconflic twithuserstheydon'tapproveoffortheirownprejudices.

3/13/201412:55PM

879 Prioritymustbegiventousageassociatedwithboats. 3/13/201412:49PM

880 Anglersshouldunderstandtheydon'townthepath. 3/13/201412:49PM

881 Anychangestouseofthetowpathsshouldinvolveallusersandmostimportantlytheviewsofboaterssought.Itisniceasaboatertobeabletomoorinanunspoiltsectionofwaterwaywithawideandwellkepttowpath

3/13/201412:45PM

882 Anglersusingpolesshouldnotobstructthetowpath(thisoftenhappensalongtheTowpathIregularlycycle,someseemoblivioustothefactthattheyhaveeffectivelyclosedthewaytocyclists....I'msurethey'dhavesomethingtosayi fIranoneover!)

3/13/201412:42PM

883 whilstencouragingangling,thereshouldbeaprinciplethatanglersdonotobstructthetowpathforanyl inearusers/ 3/13/201412:27PM

884 Ifeeli twouldbeusefultohaveaclear'userhierarchy'withpedestriansatthetop,followedbycyclistsetc. 3/13/201412:12PM

885 Codeofconductforcyclists(speed,bells,priorityforothersetc.)andpotentiallyforboaters(keepingpersonali temsofftowpath,considerateropetyingandmarking)

3/13/201412:02PM

886 Donotforgettheboatersthatuseandl iveonthecanals.Theyprobablyusethetowpathsmoreoverayearthananyothergroup 3/13/201411:41AM

887 MainconsiderationwhenmakingANYchangesshouldbearinmindthesafetyandpracticalityfortheprimaryusers,boaters. 3/13/201410:35AM

888 Towpathsshouldnotbeallowedtobedesignatedascheapcycleroutesforcommutersastheyarecrapforthis-toooftenwefindthelocalauthoritywillusetheexistenceofatowpathtojustifydoingnothingtomakethelocalroadssaferforcyclists.

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889 Moredetailofrightsandresponsibil itiesofuse.SLOWdownandbeconsiderate.PEDESTRIANSshouldtakeprecedence. 3/13/20149:32AM

890 Moreemphasisondogownersclearingupafterthemselves,thisisoneofthebiggestproblemsthatneedsaddressing.Cyclistsunderstandingi tsnotaraceandyouaresupposedtoslowthepace,moregates?Anglersnotblockingthetowpathwithroachpolesandbeingmiserable(notallofthemjustmost)

3/13/20149:20AM

891 Directionalsignsincongestedareaswheretheuseristowalk,jog,cycleormobilityvehic le. 3/13/20149:03AM

892 Greateraccessforhorseriders.Removalofunnecessarybarrierswhichareahindrancetodisabledpeopleandmanycyclists. 3/13/20148:59AM

893 Preferenceshouldalwaysbegiventoboatsandboaters,especiallyatrecognisedmooringplaces.Onmanyoccasionsanglersfishatvisitormooringplacesandapproachestolocksandswing/liftbridges,notallowingroomforboatstopullintothedesignatedmooringspacetooperatelocks,etc,especiallyasthesemooringareasaredefinedbymooringbollards.Anglershaveveryl i ttleawarenessofthisfact,theyjustthinktheycanfishanywherewithnoconsiderationforboats.

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894 Increasedfacil itiesforboaters,iewater-pointsElsandisposalpointsandmore"overnight"facil ities.Alsoasarailwayman,Icanrecognizethebenefitsofgoodsignageforlocationpurposes.InarailwayenvironmentIamusedtoseeingREGULARmile-posts(everyquartermile)andmoreoftenthannotCHAINAGE(oryardage)markersatregularintervals,quiteofteneverychain(22yds).Greatforidentifyingexactlocations,takesawaytheguesswork.

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895 Boatingandmooringfaciltiesalongthetowpath. 3/13/20148:34AM

896 Boatmooring 3/13/20148:05AM

897 Stepsshouldbetakentosecuretherestorationoflostwaterways,orasaminimumtoretaintheirl ine,wheneverthereareproposalsfornewdevelopment.

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898 bancyclistandcanoeracesastheydomoredamagetotowpaths,andbanksthenanyouthergroupofusers.howcani tbeasafeplacetowalkwithsuperfastbikeswithsil lyl i ttlebellsandpeoplerunningl ikemadatlocksetc carryingcanoesshoutingoutmywayiaminarace.

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899 Prioritygiventoanyboaterwhoistryingtopullorholdtheirboatintotheside,allshouldwaituntiltheboateradvisesi tissafetopass

3/13/20147:24AM

900 Thereneedstobeastatementof"widerpurpose".Canaltowpathsarenotjustaplaygroundforthoseluckyenoughtoaffordsix-figureboats(andIsaythatasaboat-ownermyself).Theyhaveavaluableroletoplayinfixingseverancecausedbymainroads,railwaysetc.forwalkersandcyclists.

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901 Pleasestressthatmotordrivenvehic lesarenotwelcomeontowpaths.ThepatchalongtheErewashcanalisusedbymotorbikesand3wheeloffroadbikes

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902 CanalsareprimarilyforBOATS.Othertowpathusersshouldbemadeawareofthis.Theissueofspeeding/dangerouscyclistsneedstobeaddressedbeforedeathsoccur.InLondonthisisespeciallybad.Ban"BorisBikes"ontowpaths.InstallspeedgatesandhumpsasapinLondon.MakethepossessionandUSEofabellmandatoryontowpathsesp.incitiesandhighuseareas.

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903 Theheritagedoesnotseemamajorfocus,andthatinc ludeshorses. 3/13/20146:48AM

904 Pleaserememberforboatersthetowpathisourfrontgarden.Ilovehowmuchthetowpathsareused.Bicyclesarethebiggestproblem,aproblemthathascomeaboutbecausethegovernmenthasnotprovidedsafecyclepathsoffthetowpath.

3/13/20146:47AM

905 ApolicyorcodeforeachclassofuserieforBicyclesa3Mphspeedl imit,Soundingofamandatorybelltowarnothersofapproachetc.

3/13/20146:42AM

906 ProvisionthatOtherusersshouldbeveryawareofBoatsmooringup,andmustgivewaytothoseholdingropes-thisisanimportantsafetypoint.Anyupgradingoftowpathsshouldmakeprovisionforboatersienotputtingahardsurfacetotheveryedgeofthetowpath,soallowingboaterstomoor.Therearemanyplacesonthenetworkwherethishasnotbeenconsidered,therebymakingi timpossibletomoor.

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907 TowpathsshouldbekeptclearofobstructionsatalltimesWheretowpathsareusedregularlybycyclistsclearpathwaysofseparationfrompedestriansshouldbeindicated-wherethereisnotpossibleaclearprincipleshouldbeestablished,eg.cyclistsshouldusethewaterwaysideleavingtheinsideforpedestriansuse

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908 Cyclistsmustbemademoreawareoftheoldandvulnerablewhoareonthetowpath.Especiallynearwhereboatsaremoored. 3/13/20146:34AM

909 Seecommentsonthefirstquestion.Pedestriansarenotthehighestpriority,water-basedusersare. 3/13/20146:32AM

910 Priorityshouldbegiventotheboatersuseduethecostofl icensing.Otheruserspaynothingtowardstheupkeepofthetowpath. 3/13/20146:16AM

911 Businesses&homesalongsideatowpathshouldalsorespectthetowpath.Ihaveseenrubbish&vegetationdiscardedfrompropertiesontothetowpathfartoooften.Itisnotadumpingground!

3/13/20146:11AM

912 ThereshouldbesignageonalllocklandingstagestoProhibitMooring&Fishing. 3/13/20146:00AM

913 greatercontroloverdogownerswhoallowtheredogtorunfreeandnotonaleadinapublic space 3/13/20145:54AM

914 Boats,boats,boats,boats.Whereareimprovementsforboatersinthegreaterschemeofthings? 3/13/20145:11AM

915 Bancycliststhey'redangerous 3/13/20144:45AM

916 Itappearsthatthisconsultationisaboutpromotingtheuseoftowpathsforcyclists-Ifeeltheinverseshouldbedone. 3/13/20144:37AM

917 Themooringofvesselsshouldbeamajorconsideration.(iemooringpinsintheground)Accesstofacil itiesandlocklandingsinanytow-pathimprovementsneedstobeconsidered.Iamdisappointedthatthisisn'taconsiderationinthisconsultation.Wepayal icencefortheuseoftow-pathsandcanal,Cyclists,walkersdonot.Iwelcomethemtothetowpathandhavenoissuewithopenaccessonthetowpath.InthepastBW/CRT hasbeenfartofocusedonthegeneralpublic ignoringtheneedsandsafetyof“mooringup”forvessels.WhenconductingimprovementsBW/CRT haveconcretedrightuptotheedgesoyoucan’tgetamooringpinin!Restrictingaccesstolocklandingsandfacil itieswithrail ingstoprotectthegeneralpublic,compromisingthesafetyofthemoorer.Ithinkthesafemooringofavesselwhetherthat’saNarrowboat,GRP,canoeorsurfboardneedstobeattheheartofthisconsultationandworkoutfromthat,i fi t’ssafetomoortheni tssafeforthegeneralpublic.Astosharingthespacetheslowestpersononthetowpathshouldhavepriority.Cyclistshouldonlybeallowedtocyclei fthereissuffic ientwidth(atleast2m)especiallyi fthisistobeadvertisedasacycleroute.Alsousingtarmac,concreteonarouteencouragescycliststospeed.Considerationofthesurfacebeingusedtoreducespeedwouldbewelcome.

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918 Shouldalltowpathsbeautomaticallydefinedasavailableforcyclingasadefault(Ifeeltheyshould). 3/12/20143:44PM

919 Openaccessforalltypesofpedalcycleandthebanningofallmotorvehic lesfromtowpaths 3/12/20143:17PM

920 Whereacycletrackisavailable(e.g.PaddingtonArmofGUCanaleastofLadbrokeGrove)a'stageredgate'shoulddirectcyclistsoffthetowpathontothecycletrackalongsidei t.

3/12/201410:04AM

921 Iamconcernedthattheprinciplesdonotmention,exceptundertheumbrellaof'towpathusers',boaters.Theirneedsarequitespecific ,andshouldbeinc ludedintheSharingTowpathsdocument.Anexampleofthiswouldbethatwhenaboaterhasjustcomeintomoorandisattemptingtopulltheboatintothebankortieup,i tisnotalwayspossibletoleapoutofthewayofanoncomingcycleimmediately.

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922 Thecyclespeedandconsiderationforothersisveryimportant.Shouldcyclistsfollowthecarthingofleftupandrightdown?Shouldtherebesignsaboutspeed?

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923 Thereisnomentionofdogswhichinmyexperiencecancausefearandalarmwhennotonaleadorunderclosesupervision,orthenuisancetheyleavebehind,withtheworstexamplebeingthe'turdbagtree'encounteredontheLeedsLiverpool.Thereisnomentionofcrossingswhichallowaccesstothetowpathnetworkandl inktootherpathnetworksoranyreferencetothemaintenanceandrepairofthecurrentstockortherecommissioningofderelictbridges.Thereisnoproposaltohavetowpathsindicatedonordnancesurveymapstoenablethemtobelocatedmorereadilybyprospectiveusers.

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924 Asamajorreasonforusingtowpaths,andfrequentlyaproblembothforpedestriansandparticularlycyclists,Ifeelthatdogwalkingshouldbementioned.Itshouldbeencouragedasalegitimateuseofthepaths,butdogwalkersshouldhaveaspecificresponsibil itytorespectotherusers.Thevastmajorityofdogwalkersareconsideratewhengivensuffic ientwarningtogetthemundercontrol,howevermostofthe'conflic ts'Ihaveobservedconcerndogsbeingoutofcontrol,andoccasionallyownersfeelingaggrievedwhentheyneedtocontrolthem.

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925 TheydonotemphasisethatcyclistsshouldGIVEWAYtootherusers. 3/11/201410:10AM

926 Priorityofusehierarchy.Steammustgivewaytosailetc 3/11/20149:51AM

927 Acodefornotifyingusersoftowpathclosures. 3/11/20149:30AM

928 Educationofuserstorespecteachother'suseandacarrotratherthanastickapproach 3/11/20145:56AM

929 remember-boaterspayal icencefeeandshouldbetheprioityusers! 3/11/20145:25AM

930 importanceoftowpathsas'greencorridors'.Wherepossiblewithoutobstructingtheirmultiplehumanuses,improvementstohabitatshouldbeencouragede.g.betterhedgemanagement,wildflowerplanting,communitygardeningetc.

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931 Notsurehowi tcanbedone,butcyclistsneedtorealisethatthetowpathsarenotaspeedway! 3/11/20145:19AM

932 Can'tremembernow-haveyouinc ludedanythingabouttheimportanceoftowpathstofunctionasbiodiversitycorridors? 3/11/20145:09AM

933 Thepolicyshouldrecognisethattowpathswereoriginallyprovidedtoenableuseofthewaterwaybyboatsandthisshouldbethetoppriority.

3/11/201412:54AM

934 Thereisaprinciplethatattendstodevelopmentbutnothingrelatingtomaintenance.Clearly,i tisnogooddevelopingi fthereisnoprovisionformaintenance.Oneparticularpointoffrustrationasacyclististhat,inruralareas,adjacenthedgesareoftentrimmedleavingthornydebrisacrossthetowpathwhichresultsinpunctures.Iunderstandthathedgesneedtobetrimmedbuteffortsshouldbemadetokeepthetowpathfreeofdebris,suchastheuseofskirtsontrimmerstoreducethescatteroftrimmings.

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935 Enforcementofgoodtowpathmanners. 3/10/20141:10PM

936 Towpathsandcanalsarel ivinglungsincities.Theyarenaturecorridors. 3/10/201412:51PM

937 Asstatedalready,astatementthatthetowpathispartofaworkingnavigationandthatusersshouldgivewaytoboatsthataremanouveringormooring;anglersshouldkeeplocklandingfreeandvisitorsonfootorbicycleshouldkeepclearoflockedges,beams,gates,landingstagesetc whenboatsareusinglocks.

3/10/201410:22AM

938 Lackofrecognitionofboaters. 3/10/20147:48AM

939 Touristrelatedbusinessoughttobegiventaxbreaksi ftheyaresupplyingtothecanalandtowpathcommunity,walkers,cyclistsandfishers.

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940 Thatessentiallyboatershaveprioruseoftowpathssincetheywerebuiltforboats 3/10/20145:26AM

941 Boatersshouldbebetterlookedafterwhensteppingoffboatscyclistmustbemadetoslowdown 3/10/20144:57AM

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942 Walkersneedtobeadvisedi tISaSHAREDpath.Thatmeanstheyneedtomakeroomforpeoplewhowishtopassthem,notblocktheentirewidthofthetowpathandrefusetomoveover.DogwalkersMUST useshortleads.Cyclistscan'talwaysseelongleadsandIhavebeeninthecanalwithmybikeasaresultofirresponsibleuseoflongleads.

3/10/20144:47AM

943 Nobikes 3/10/20144:01AM

944 thatclearinformationwillbeprovidedonthesuitabil ityofdifferenttowpathsfordifferentvehic les,iewhethertheflooringiscobbled,gravel,earthortarmac mayaffecti tssuitabil ityfordifferenttypesofbike,buggyorwheelchair

3/10/20143:54AM

945 Astraightforwardno-nonsensestatementthatsaysrulesofbehaviourwillbeestablishedandthesewillneedtobeacceptedandobeyedbyallthoseusingthewaterways,whetheri tbeonthewateroronthetowpath.

3/9/20143:00PM

946 Anglersshouldalwaysgiveprecedencetoboatswishingtomooratdesignatedmooringsites.Anglersmustnotfishfromthetowpathadjacenttoorwithin25metresoflocklandings,waterpointsorbridges.Anglersshouldbealertandreadytomovetheirrods(andkeepnets,i fnecssary)inplentyoftimewhenaboatisapproachingonnarrowwaterways.Anglersshouldnotimpedeotherusersbyleavingtheirrodsandotherequipmentacrossthetowpathinconveniencingothers.

3/9/201410:44AM

947 Nocyclists 3/9/20149:25AM

948 cyclingisdangerousinarestrictedspaceandcyclistsrepeatedlyfloutallrulesandguidelines.thereshouldbeanenforcementprocessfromthetrusttoprosecuteandpunishdangerouscyclists.thetrustmustactuallyenforcetheseprocesses.

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949 Clearnoticesthatchildrennordogsshouldswimin,aboveorbelowalockasthisisdangerousandtheyareunawareofthecurrentsunderthewaterandthattheycouldgetdraggeddown.Thelocksarenotforpeopletositonandhavepicnics.Anglersshouldnotuselocklandings.Anglersshouldmovei faboatwishestomoorupandnothavetheirgearstraddlingthetowpath.Torememberthatelderlypeoplecouldbeimpairedbydeafnessorlackofsightandhavelessagility.Childrenareunpredictable.Cyclistsshouldonlygoslowandnotusethetowpathasaracingtrack.

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950 Thereisnothinginthepreviousprinciplesaboutdesignoftowpathsformooring.Thepathsthemselvesshouldleaveenoughspacefor"peggingup".Hard(i.e.concreted/tarmac)towpathshouldbesituatedaleast2feetfromtheedgeofthenavigation.

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951 Morebinsespeciallyattouristhotspotsl ikeCamdenandBroadwayMarket.Onebinthatisemptiedoccasionallyisnotfitforpurpose

3/8/201412:36PM

952 Itisimportantforvisitorsnottoleavebreadonthetowpathfortheducks.Thisnotonlyencouragesratswhichareahealthhazard,butdrybreadisnotveryhealthyfortheducks.ThisisparticularlybadatAlperton.

3/8/201412:33PM

953 Yesboatersshouldbeallowedtostayanywhereonthesystemthe24hourmooringshouldbeabolishedasthiswasntapplicablewhenbwwhereincontrolTwomanynewenforcementsandveryexspensiveCheapertogoabroad

3/8/20148:33AM

954 Thetowpathisanareaforleisureandl iving.LeisureasinrelaxedactivityNOT aratrunabusedbycyclistsgoingfast. 3/8/20147:43AM

955 ToleranceshouldbetaughtandsuggestedtoALLvisitorsandusers,privateandbusiness,asthisisthewayoneusedtomeetandtreatone'sneighbour.Thiscannotbeachievedbynumeroussigns,regulationsandfines.Itspoilsthewholeconceptofthewaterwaysandthisisalreadyinterferingwithlongestablishedbusinessesalongthecanalnetwork-Arethinkhereisnecessary

3/7/20141:25PM

956 Theprinciplesarefine,butpolic ingtheirupkeepwillrequirethenotinfrequentsupervisionofrangers/water-bail iffsorsimilar. 3/7/201411:12AM

957 Whowillpoliceandcontrolthisincreasedmultiuse?Especillythecyclists. 3/7/201410:30AM

958 Thatcyclistsshouldalwaysbeconsideredinthewronginaccidentsinvolvingcyclistsandpedestrians.Theyshouldhavestoppedordismounted.Sadlysuchastatementontowpathuseisprobablytheonlywaytotostoptheircurrentbehavior.Suchprecedentsdoexistinothercountries.

3/7/20149:51AM

959 Towpathsareprimerlyfortheuseofboatingandalthoughasharedressourcetheneedsofboatersshouldtakepriority 3/7/20149:07AM

960 Ifrequentlyhaveproblemswithrunnersandwalkerswhohavemusic playersstuckintheirears.Theycannothearwarningbells,hootersorshoutsandtendtotraveldeadcentreofthetowpath.Therearealsoissuesofdeafandvisuallyimpairedpeopleandhowcyclistsmightrecogniseandnegotiatethem.

3/7/20145:15AM

961 Ensuringallusersgetalongisthemaindifficulty,somakingpeopleawarethatthecanaltowpathisaslowerpaceorsharedusespaceisimportantIthink.

3/7/20144:33AM

962 Outcomesoftheconsultation-whatisCRT'svisionfori tspaths-wherewilli tbeandwhatwilltheylookl ikein2050fromavisitior'sperspective?Alocalperson'sperspectiveandfromtheperspectiveofboatersetal.Doesi texpecttoseemoreuse?Accessibletoall?Linkedintothelocalnetworkofpathsand/orlongdistanceroutes?HowwillCRT knowtheyhavebeensuccesful?

3/7/20144:21AM

963 Designshouldnotintroducehazards(e.g.rail ings)forthoseoperatingboats. 3/6/20142:53PM

964 Commentsmadealreadyaboutprioritiesandsegregationofcyclists 3/6/20142:43PM

965 Adefinitecodeofuseforcyclistsandpedestrians,ienospeedingbycyclistsandpedestrianstobeconsideratealso.Anglersalsotobemoreconsideratetoboatersandusersofthetowpath.

3/6/20142:20PM

966 ThePersonorcomitythatputthesequestionstogethershouldattendaclassi tclearEnglish.Assomeonewithanyreadingdisabilitymayfindthemhardorimposabletounderstand

3/6/201411:56AM

967 Toomuchsignageiscounterproductive.SpeedingcyclistsareamenaceandwideningtowpathsisdetrimentaltothevisualappealoftheWaterways,aswellaswildlife.Bettermaintenanceoftowpathsinlessbuiltupareaswouldhelpmakemoreareasaccessibleforwalkers.

3/6/201411:02AM

968 Proximityofanglerstovisitormooringsneedstoberedressed.IwasunabletomoorwithinamileofPenkridgeVM'sinthelateautumn.Noangling(particularlymatches)within500mofVM's,locksandfacil ities.

3/6/201410:04AM

969 Installation/restorationofdrainagefortowingpathspronetowaterlogging,forexampleinthecuttingsontheShropshireUnionCanal,wheretheoriginaldrainagehasbeenneglectedtotheextentthatthetowingpathhasbeenclosed

3/6/20149:37AM


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