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WASHINGTON — Under pressure to do more to help hurricane-ravaged PuertoRico, President Donald Trump said Wednesday his administration was consideringwaiving a little-known federal law that prohibits foreign-flagged ships from shuttlinggoods between U.S. ports.Republicans and Democrats have pushed Trump to waive the Jones Act, saying

it could help get desperately needed supplies delivered to the island more quicklyand at less cost.Acting Homeland Security Secretary Elaine Duke waived the law earlier this

month to help ease fuel shortages in the Southeast following hurricanes Harvey andIrma. That order included Puerto Rico, but expired last week shortly after HurricaneMaria struck.The Trump administration has said a waiver is not needed this time, because there

are enough U.S. flagged ships available to ferry goods to Puerto Rico. Officials atthe Homeland Security Department, speaking on condition of anonymity becausethey were not authorized to discuss the issue by name, said the bottleneck is withunloading cargo at the island’s damaged ports and getting the supplies inland. Theymade the remarks in a background conference call with reporters to justify the ad-ministration’s decision.Asked about that decision as he left the White House to pitch his tax plan at an

event in Indiana, however, Trump suggested he may be open to changing course.He said some U.S. shipping executives opposed a temporary waiver.“Well, we’re thinking about that,” the president said. “But we have a lot of shippers

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By ZACHARY HALASCHAKDaily News Staff Writer

“Hello, I’m Scott Hawkins and I’m runningfor governor.”Scott Hawkins, a long-time Anchorage busi-

nessman, chose Southeast Alaska to launch his2018 Republican gubernatorial campaign. Hisfirst official campaign stop was Tuesday nightin Ketchikan at the Landing Hotel, during

which he spoke candidly to a smallgroup of GOP supporters. On Wednesday, Hawkins sat down

with the Daily News and outlined hispositions on a wide range of state andnational political issues.Hawkins’ name is unfamiliar to

many in the state, largely because hedoes not hold political office. Much of

the interview was spent discussingwho Scott Hawkins is, what he standsfor and where he stands on issues crit-ical to Alaska voters.Scott Hawkins is the co-founder,

president and CEO of Advanced Sup-ply Chain International LLC — an An-chorage-based company with morethan 200 employees.

Hawkins, who has been married for 25 yearsand has one daughter, said Ketchikan was theperfect place to launch his bid for governor.“I’ve been to Ketchikan a number of times

over the years, I’ve always liked the town,”Hawkins said. “I think it is important for anAnchorage businessman to signal that thiswould be a statewide administration, I’d be agovernor for all Alaska.”

“I’ve got a lot of interest in Southeast(Alaska), I’ve got a lot of respect for Southeast(Alaska),” Hawkins added.

WHO IS SCOTT HAWKINS?Raised in Washington State, Hawkins at-

tended college in Tacoma and got his first jobas an economist in Seattle. He first arrived inAnchorage in 1981 to do construction work

Scott Hawkins launches bid for governor

By ZACHARY HALASCHAKDaily News Staff Writer

A summer of discontent became afall of frustration.All summer the Ketchikan School

Board debated, delayed and deliber-ated on School Board Policy 5040,which deals with revisions to dis-trict nutrition and physical activitystandards.At Wednesday’s meeting, the

School Board passed the measure,ending discussion on the long-run-ning agenda item.In the words of School Board

member Glenn Brown: “I thinkwe’ve absolutely murdered thisissue — this has been like the sum-mer of Policy 5040.”A number of other School Board

members expressed satisfaction thatthe policy was finally voted on.Brown went further and criticized

much of the process for this policyas a waste of time and energy on be-half of district staff.

“I just don’t appreciate us havingto go that long way around the blockservicing some other master,”Brown said. “It wastes the time ofthe administration, it’s not how thestaff needs to be spending their timesatisfying those requirements —they’ve got a school district to run.”Issues with the policy arose when

some on the School Board wanted togive Ketchikan School District Su-perintendent Boyle the ability to usewhat are called “administrative reg-ulations” to enforce the district’shealth and nutrition policy, whileothers on the School Board wantedto stick to the original policy revi-sions (which) that are much moredetailed.School Board Member Matt Eisen-

hower was not pleased that thepages of policy relating to nutritionand physical activity for studentswere condensed down into just onepage.

Board passeshealth revisions

KETCHIKAN (KDN) —The Chief Johnson totempole was taken down from its location near Centen-nial Square in downtown Ketchikan on Wednesdaymorning at the start of a project to clean and repairthe pole.After first removing the Kadjuk — the house crest

of Chief Johnson’s clan — from the very top of thepole, contractor Marvin Hill of Wildcatters LLC andworkers used a crane to lift the remaining pole fromits base and set it horizontally on blocks in the Cen-tennial Building parking lot. The pole then was moved to the former Ketchikan

Fire Department station on Main Street, where thecleaning and repair work will take place.The 55-feet-tall pole is a replica of the original that

was first raised in 1901 near Chief George Johnson’shouse on the banks of Ketchikan Creek, according

Trump mullsJones Act waiverfor Puerto Rico

Workers slowly lower the Chief Johnson totem pole, carved by Israel Shotridge, onto beams Wednesday in the parking lot of the Ton-gass Historical Museum. Staff photo by Taylor Balkom

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By ALAINA BARTELDaily News Staff Writer

Less than 48 hours after its initial breakdown, the airport ferryramp on Gravina Island has been repaired and was in serviceWednesday evening, according to Ketchikan International Air-

port Manager Mike Carney. About 6 a.m. on Tuesday, two hydraulic cylinders that raise

the airport ferry ramp on the Gravina side sheared, trapping theferry Ken Eichner II there, according to Ketchikan Gateway Bor-ough information. At 3:15 p.m. on Wednesday, the repaired cylinders were

loaded onto a skiff at the Ketchikan Shipyard and were broughtto the Gravina-side ramp, where the ramp repair process beganimmediately and was completed by 7 p.m. Wednesday.

A broken airport ferry ramp can have an impact on airportaccess and operations. In this case, ferry traffic between Revil-lagigedo and Gravina Islands was limited to foot-traffic only be-cause there wasn't a second ferry ramp on the Gravina side toaccommodate vehicle traffic. “If we had redundant terminals now, (when) that terminal

broke down, we would have just switched to the other one, andwe would have never missed a beat,” Carney said on Wednesday

Airport ferry ramp repaired, travel ran smoothly despite break

By DARRYL FEARSThe Washington Post

WASHINGTON — As Interior Secre-tary Ryan Zinke blasted many within hisdepartment for being disloyal to theTrump administration's agenda this

week, the agency's inspector general'soffice continued a probe into whetherofficials acted inappropriately whenthey abruptly reassigned dozens of sen-ior workers.Deputy Inspector General Mary

Kendall is working "to determine if theU.S. Department of the Interior followedappropriate guidelines and best practicesin the reassignment of Senior ExecutiveService employees," according to spokes-woman Gillian Carroll.

The reassigned workers include JoelClement, a climate scientist who was re-moved from his job as director of policyanalysis and reassigned to a revenue ac-counting position for which he has no

Interior workers: Personnel moves break law

Totem pole taken down for repairs

Project to repair, clean Chief Johnson totem pole should take 6 weeks

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Left, travelers walk down the ramp to the KetchikanInternational Airport ferry on Wednesday.

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Scott Hawkins

Anchorage businessman chooses Ketchikan as jumping-off point, outlines policy positions

and then returned in ‘83 to be a bankeconomist. “In the late 1980s the economy wentinto a slump and I was named thefounding president of the (AnchorageEconomic Development Corporation),”Hawkins said. He said that during hiseight years there he had good success.Following that venture, Hawkins said he“transitioned out in order to go into pureprivate enterprise.”After departing from the AEDC,Hawkins started three different busi-nesses: a consulting firm that lasted forabout three years, an international tourcompany, and the jewel in his crown —Advanced Supply Chain InternationalLLC. Hawkins said that today he em-ploys around 200 Alaskans.ASCI was founded in 1999 and dealswith supply chain and asset manage-ment — working primarily with oil andgas companies. According to its website,ASCI also provides services internation-ally in places like Russia and theCaribbean.“These businesses have been in placefor 18 to 20 years and have been verysuccessful year after year,” Hawkinssaid. “So I bring that business perspec-tive to the race.”This is not Hawkins first foray intostate politics. According to independentexpenditure forms, his group, the Ac-countability Project, received around$100,000 from the Republican StateLeadership Committee in 2016.Much of that money was spent tryingto unseat “musk-ox Republicans,” thosein the more moderate wing of the stateGOP.Some of the funds targeted Rep. DanOrtiz, I-Ketchikan, who was running forreelection in House District 36 in 2016. Hawkins expressed disappointmentwith some of the mailings saying, “themessages themselves were spot on, buthow they were communicated is whatruffled some feathers.”When asked by the Daily News if hehad regret for some of what the Ac-countability Project did during the pastelection cycle, Hawkins said he did.“Yes, I do,” Hawkins, said. “I take re-sponsibility for it, and it’s a lessonlearned.”He noted that those mailings and ad-vertisements would have been par forthe course in a larger state or on a morehigh-profile level, but recognized theunique nature of Alaska’s political at-mosphere.“In small communities where peopleknow one another, you have to be care-ful not to appear to be picking on some-body or belittling them,” Hawkins said.“So, that’s very much a lesson learnedand as I go forward on the independentexpenditure side.”Regardless of potential mistakes madein the past, Hawkins says he stands be-hind the work his organization has done,going as far as saying it helped shape thisyear’s Legislature in a profound way.

“I’m proud of the work we’ve done,”Hawkins said. “When you do cam-paigns, and they’re very high-profilethings, and you have several going on atonce, and you’re making decisions —you’re going to make a mistake once anda while.”Hawkins says he is ready to move be-yond the past and into the future: 2018.The gubernatorial candidate has whathe describes as a three-point plan: “Pointnumber one is to get the economy mov-ing — the private sector economy, that’sthe engine for everything. … Secondly isto solve the fiscal problems. The solu-tions are pretty straightforward; it’s thepolitics that are difficult. … And then thethird thing is the crime wave.“It needs to be addressed (the crimewave), and not in the old ways of incar-cerating everything that moves,”Hawkins said. “We need to be a littlemore creative in how we have strongconsequences and deterrents on thesecrimes, but do it in a way that doesn’tbreak the budget.”Here are some of the policy issues theDaily News discussed with Hawkins.

HEALTH CAREHawkins said he supported the Gra-ham-Cassidy healthcare bill, legislationthat now appears to be dead in thewater. Hawkins reiterated that despitefailures by Congress to repeal the Af-fordable Care Act he fully supports on-going “repeal and reform” efforts.He explained that this is a critical issuefor Alaskans and that although he doesnot support Obamacare, “there needs tobe a bipartisan compromise on it.” “The reason Obamacare exists in thefirst place is that we had 40 million peo-ple in this country that were uninsured,”Hawkins said. “That pressure is real andit’s not going to go away. So we do needto reform the health care system, butObamacare was just so clearly wrong-headed.”“It’s (Obamacare) has actually back-fired, it’s made insurance way more ex-pensive except those that are subsidizingthe exchanges, of which the exchangesare rapidly collapsing,” Hawkins added.When asked about Gov. Bill Walker’s2015 expansion of Medicaid, Hawkinssaid that he thought it was terrible deci-sion for the state. “I thought it was fiscally irresponsi-ble,” Hawkins said. “He expanded amajor entitlement program at a timewhen the state was facing a fiscal crisis,I think it’s just thoroughly irresponsiblethat he did that.”

NORTH KOREAIn addressing foreign policy, Hawkinstold the Daily News more missile de-fense is crucial to protecting the stateduring the currently tense standoff be-tween the United States and NorthKorea.“There’s not a whole lot we can do,”Hawkins said, adding that it was keythat Alaska continues to work throughits congressional delegation to get more

missile defense assets for the state.“I think that’s really ultimately the so-lution to nuclear proliferation,” Hawkinssaid. “If we can shoot down those mis-siles, and do so reliably, we’ve gone along ways toward solving that problem.”

CLIMATE CHANGEIn the course of the interview theDaily News inquired about Hawkins’personal beliefs on climate change,specifically if he believes in the existenceof man-made climate change.

Hawkins responded with a simple,one word response — “yes.”When asked exactly how the issue ofclimate change should be addressed,Hawkins demurred and focused prima-rily on how it should not be addressed. “That’s kind of a global problem,”Hawkins said. “I’m gonna answer you

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Arlie A. UmphreyArlie A. Umphrey, 95, died Sept. 4,2017, at the Johnson Homeview Nurs-ing Center in Franklin, Indiana.He was born on Aug. 8, 1922, inWasco County, Oregon. He moved toLaGrande, Oregon at a young age and,in January 1942, enlisted in the MarineCorps. He served in the Pacific areaduring World War II.In June 1942, he married Sylva MayPratt, who lived with her parentswhile Mr. Umphrey served with theMarine Corps.After serving three years, Mr.Umphrey returned to Oregon, and thecouple resided in LaGrande and raiseda family of four boys and two girls:Arla, Harry “Butch,” Michael, Lynn,Elizabeth “Betty” and John.From LaGrande, they moved toWashington state and then, in 1963, onto Ketchikan. They resided inKetchikan for 25 years.Mr. Umphrey worked as a custodianfor the Ketchikan School District for 21years before retiring and moving withhis wife back to LaGrande.In 2010, Mr. Umphrey was diag-nosed with dementia and, with Mrs.Umphrey in failing health, they movedclose to family in Indiana.“His son, Butch, and daughter-in-law saw to their needs while living ina small apartment,” his family writes.

In 2014, the couple moved to Morn-ing Pointe Assisted Living.“Arlie loved playing the harmonicaand joined in several local bands inOregon,” his family writes. “He lovedfishing in Alaska, and was a memberof the VFW.”Mr. Umphrey was preceded in deathby his wife of 75 years, SylvaUmphrey.He is survived by his six children, 14grandchildren, 32 great-grandchildrenand seven great-great-grandchildren.Mr. Umphrey’s remains were cre-mated, and will be intered with thoseof his wife at Marion National Ceme-tery in Marion, Indiana.

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Continued from page 1School Board“The amended policy, I believe, is just too short,” Eisenhower said. “Just the twoparagraphs.”In the end, the School Board decided to pass the revisions and give Boyle thepower to use administrative regulations in order to handle health and student activ-ity in the district.School Board Member Kim Hodne praised Boyle and Business Manager AdamThompson for putting together data and administrative regulations associated withPolicy 5040.Also Wednesday the School Board approved a new positive behavior initiative forelementary schools in the district. The program works by incentivizing good behav-ior for younger students and is bolstered by staff and faculty training on how to dealwith behavioral issues.The program and training will be run by Arizona-based KOI Education at a costto the district of about $50,000, although all of that money came from federal allo-cations.Also during Wednesday’s meeting the School Board:• Heard an update from Boyle, as well as a report from student member

Michael Starr.• Discussed school attendance boundaries.• Heard an update from Boyle on the PEAKS test results. Boyle noted, “there

will be more for the board as we dig into it.”• Convened a closed executive session to discuss KEA negotiations.

The next School Board meeting will be held on Wednesday, Oct. 11. 2017.zachary@ketchikandailynews.com

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and a lot of people and a lot of peoplewho work in the shipping industry thatdon’t want the Jones Act lifted. And wehave a lot of ships out there right now.”Republicans and Democrats werepressing the issue. Even before thestorm hit, shipping household and com-mercial goods to Puerto Rico costroughly double what it did to nearby Ja-maica and the Dominican Republic,where foreign vessels are free to dock.The U.S. Virgin Islands were granted apermanent legal waiver from the JonesAct by Congress, but not Puerto Rico.“These emergency waivers have beenvaluable to speed up recovery efforts inthe impacted regions,” Sen. John Mc-Cain, R-Ariz., said Tuesday. “It is unac-ceptable to force the people of PuertoRico to pay at least twice as much forfood, clean drinking water, supplies andinfrastructure due to Jones Act require-ments as they work to recover from thisdisaster.”Rep. Nydia Velázquez, a New YorkDemocrat who was born in Puerto Rico,also urged Trump to approve a waiver.“Puerto Ricans are without food,clean water and electricity,” she said.“We must use every tool at our disposalto channel assistance to the island.”

The American Maritime Partnership,which represents more than 400 U.Sshipping companies, said a Jones Actwaiver would hinder relief efforts.Waiving restrictions on foreign ves-sels that carry cargo to Puerto Rico“could overwhelm the system, creatingunnecessary backlogs and causing con-fusion on the distribution of critical sup-plies throughout the island,’” saidThomas Allegretti, the group’s chair-man.Domestic shipping companies movedapproximately 9,500 containers of goodsto Puerto Rico in the wake of HurricaneMaria, including a large container shipthat arrived Sunday with more than 35million pounds of cargo, the group said.“The largest bottleneck is not gettinggoods to the island, but delivering goodsonce they arrive,” Allegretti said, notingthat goods shipped to the island arebeing held in port because of blockedroads and other disruptions.Domestic maritime containershipscan deliver cargoes from the U.S. main-land to Puerto Rico in three days, thepartnership said in a statement.Trump was scheduled to visit PuertoRico on Tuesday, as his administrationbegan dispatching additional ships and

military personnel to the stricken island.Large sections of the territory re-mained without adequate food, waterand fuel one week after the Category 4storm hit. Communications were spottyand roads were clogged with debris. Of-ficials said electrical power may not befully restored for more than a month.

“Puerto Rico’s a very difficult situa-tion. I mean, that place was just de-stroyed,” Trump said. “That’s not aquestion of gee, let’s dry up the water,or let’s do this or that. I mean, thatplace was flattened. That is a reallytough situation. I feel so badly forthose people.”

afternoon. Back in June, Carney had spoken with the DailyNews regarding such an event occurring, and about theGravina Access Project that's intended to alleviate thattype of situation. “If something happens to a ferry ramp, there will beredundant systems, so it won’t shut down the wholeairport,” Carney said earlier this year, explaining oneof the benefits of the project. Those redundancies are still a ways off. The GravinaAccess project is in its final design stage and construc-tion is set to begin before 2019, according to KetchikanBorough Manager Ruben Duran. Duran said the project includes adding one terminalon both Revillagigedo and Gravina Islands, so therewill be two terminals on each side — something Car-ney is looking forward to. The effects of the ramp breakdown were evident onWednesday afternoon, as nearly two dozen foot-pas-sengers lined up to board the Oral Freeman — theother airport ferry brought out by borough personnel— which was running 15 minutes late at that time. Passengers could be seen loading suitcases ontometal baggage carts and taking their spot in line at theRevillagigedo terminal, with some having more per-sonal belongings than others. An Alaska Sportfishing Expedition van parked adja-cent to the sidewalk and let out a group of men, who

began unloading several boxes of fish onto carts alongwith their suitcases. The group didn’t seem to be fazed from the incon-venience, as one man stepped towards the shore to takea picture of a float plane landing.“Everybody’s been great; the traveling public hasbeen good about the whole thing,” Carney said. “We’vehad a lot of other people within the community help.”The Oral Freeman docked on the Revillagigedo sideseconds later, and disembarking passengers made theirway up the ramp towards the parking lot, as Carneypushed a woman in a wheelchair up the ramp behindthem.Other airport staff members, such as Robin Kinney,a secretary at the airport, could be seen helping guestswith their bags and carts.Although helping with a ramp breakdown was notexplicitly spelled out in her job description, she laughedand said it falls under “other duties as assigned.”The new group of passengers began walking downthe ramp, boarded the ferry and took the three-minuteride across Tongass Narrows to the airport’s float planedock just north of the Gravina ferry ramp. As the ferry came to a stop, Carney directed passen-gers to leave their carts full of luggage on the ferry, tobe taken care of by airport staff. It was a relief to many,as they would have had to push their luggage up an in-clined ramp towards the airport.

“You’re a lifesaver,” one woman said.“I thought I was going to get a workout today,” an-other added. However, the staff wasn’t planning on a workout, ei-ther, as Alaska Airlines personnel had loaned a portableconveyer belt for them to use.The staff loaded the passengers’ luggage onto thebelt, which transported the luggage from the ferry toadditional airport staff waiting on the float planedock. The luggage was loaded onto a truck on the dock anddriven to the airport, making for an easy pick up forthe travelers. Once the Oral Freeman was unloaded, itmade its way back to Revillagigedo Island to do it allover again. At the Revilla-side dock was a FedEx truck driverwaiting to drive onto the next ferry, as it was still ableto accommodate cargo vehicles to unload and loadtheir trucks, as they sat on the ferry, on the Gravinaside.Although an inconvenience, there was one benefitof the broken ramp for travelers — they saved at least$6. “We discontinued payment for the ferry from thetime that (the ramp) broke,” Carney said. “It’s aninconvenience and we felt that was the right thingto do.”

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Continued from page 2Hawkinsby saying the way not to address it: Toshut down development in the Arctic.”Hawkins did add that “the Arctic is im-pacted disproportionately by globalwarming, and that’s something we’regonna have to contend with.”Following the exchange, Hawkinsnoted that he also doesn’t believe all thescience surrounding climate change hasbeen fully resolved. He explained thatthe environmental regulations inAlaska for mining and oil developmentare far more stringent than in otherplaces around the world.“I think there is a political correctnessaround global warming science andthere’s kind of a tendency to shut downany dissenting points of view,”Hawkins added. “I don’t think the sci-ence is settled in terms of the exactcombination of things that are con-tributing to it, much less the combina-tion of things that would alleviate it.”

OIL TAX CREDITSIn regard to the primarily bipartisaneffort by the Legislature this year tosunset oil tax credits, Hawkins notedsupport, saying, “I think they had togiven the way the system was struc-tured.” When asked how he would havevoted if he were a state legislator,Hawkins said he would have votedwith the majority, but also went on tosimultaneously praise the system.“I would have voted to phase thoseout, yes,” Hawkins said. “However, I dobelieve there is a role for oil tax credits,and I do believe there is a way to fi-

nance them, and I do believe that theywere wildly successful.”“We discovered more oil since thatprogram went into effect than anytimesince Prudhoe Bay,” Hawkins added.“My approach would be to reform that,and identify a funding source thatwould trigger when the new productioncame online.”

ABORTION ANDGAY MARRIAGE

Hawkins noted that he does not sup-port publically funded abortions exceptin cases of rape, incest or harm to themother. He also went on to delineatehis view on gay marriage.D u r i n gthe Wednesday interview, Hawkins ex-plained that the issue of marriageequality has resolved itself to some ex-tent over the past few years.“Gay marriage is the law of the land,”Hawkins said. “If you look at politicsand society, consensus is pretty clear onthat. But, Hawkins did take aim at whathe seems to perceive as an oversatura-tion of the issue in Alaska and in theUnited States.“At this point in time it’s about kindof the additional add-on things,”Hawkins said noting the national de-bate over restrooms for transgenderpeople. “The main battles have beenwon in terms of the LGBT community,”Hawkins said. “I think it would be-hoove that community to recognizewhen they’ve achieved victory, and de-clare victory.”

THE DEATH PENALTY Given that one of Hawkins’ threemain campaign issues is crime, theDaily News asked about his position onreinstating the death penalty. He saidthat he has not developed a definitiveposition on that issue quite yet.“I haven’t decided yet is the short an-swer,” Hawkins said. “It’s not a simpleissue, I’m inclined to, but I haven’t de-cided yet.” He did emphasize that he isvery much in favor of increasing the de-terrence factor of all crime, though.

SCHOOL CHOICEHawkins also touched on the topic ofschool choice, referring to a question hewas fielded the night before.“It does need to be pointed out thatthe Alaska constitution prohibits publicfunds from going directly to religiousinstitutions, including schools,”Hawkins said. “As long as that’s in theconstitution, and I can’t imagine thatwould change anytime soon, … itwould have to be a very secular schoolchoice.”

MARIJUANAHawkins said that he doesn’t havestrong feelings either way about the re-cent legalization of marijuana in Alaska.“It’s been passed and the voters havespoken,” Hawkins said. “I did not sup-port it — I did not strongly oppose it —you know, I was happy to see it on theballot and give the public a chance tospeak on it.But I would not be leading the chargeto roll that (marijuana legalization)back,” Hawkins added.

STATE AND NATIONAL POLITICS

When asked about the broader as-pects of national politics and how hethought the Trump Administration wasdoing, Hawkins had mixed reviews.Hawkins emphasized that there is aseparation for him between Trump’spolicies and the way in which the pres-ident conducts himself.“Yeah, that’s an interesting question,”Hawkins said. “I think on the policymerits of what he’s actually done, Ithink it’s pretty solid. But when youlook at his personal conduct and his in-ability to control himself, he reallyhurts his agenda.“In terms of personal self control andbeing presidential, I don’t give him veryhigh marks,” Hawkins said. Although,he reiterated again that in terms of “pol-icy merits as they apply to Alaska” theadministration is doing a good job.“I think a lot of Republicans feel thesame way,” Hawkins added with achuckle.When asked to grade the job per-formance of some prominent Alaskanpoliticians, Hawkins provided his theo-retical report cards:Sen. Dan Sullivan: “A”Sen. Lisa Murkowski: “C+”Gov. Bill Walker: “D-“Starting his campaign in First City,Scott Hawkins joins what could be acrowded republican primary field. It’sa long way to the GOP primary electionon Aug. 21, 2018.

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