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Roland JD emulation on Super JVand XV synthesizers

StartingwithmodelJV1080,somewaveformsfromtheJD800weretransferredintoJV1080.WhichmeantbackthenthatsomeofthepatchescouldtechnicallybetransferredfromJDinto

J?

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WhichmeantbackthenthatsomeofthepatchescouldtechnicallybetransferredfromJDintoSuperJVsynthesizers.UnfortunatelywhatSuperJVseriesmissedwastheeffectssectionfromtheJD,andthusmostofthepatcheswereatotalmiss.(Notice:Wellthisisjusthalfofthetruth,theotherhalfisadifferentgainstructure,filterdynamicrangeand44kHzwaveformsvs32kHzROM,butletspretendforamomentwehavenoideaaboutthis.Ifyourecuriousaboutdetails,gotoourUltimateRolandJDJVFAQarticle).Anyway,theprocessofJDmigrationcontinuedwithXVseries,tothepointthatallof108JDwaveformswerefinallyavailableintheXVsynthsseemslike7aremissingbutaremorelikelyrenamed.

Butthatsnotall.WhatwouldbeaJDwithoutitsspecialmultieffectprocessor.ThatswhyRolandimplementedJDsEffectprocessorAintoXV.Inotherwords,yougotaJDsynthhiddeninsideyourXVsynth,andyoucanfinallystartconvertingfavoriteJDpatches.Therearesomedifferencesinthefilter,butmoreonthatlater.Ishouldjuststatethatthe44.1kreferencedsamplespointstomodelsXV5080andXV5050.Icannotguaranteethatmodel3080contains44.1kplaybackengineatall,neitherthesamplesinthatformatithasbeenreportedthemachineis32k.Icanhoweverguaranteethanin5080/5050waveformsfromtheJD800areinoriginal44.1kformat.

Tablebelowshowsusinternalmemorycontent(waveforms)oftheJD800.Startingwith001SynSaw1,endingwith108WindChime.PositionofthesesamewavesinsideXVsynthesizeraremarkedwithorangecolor.ForexampleifyouwanttoloadSynPulse4thatonJDiswaveformnumber008,onXVyouwillfinditonnumber557.

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JD800multieffectgroupAWiththeXVsynthesizer,RolandalsobroughtusbackthefamousJD800multieffectfromitssectionAblock(note:theJDhastwoeffectsections).OnXVseriesitisavailableasMFXnumber75:JDMULTI.JustlikeontheJD800,itallowsdistortion,phaser,spectrumandenhancereffectstobeconnectedinseriesinanydesiredorder.ItfeaturesexactlythesamesettingsasavailableonJD800.Hereisabriefexplanationforeachoneofthem.

1.Distortion

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1.DistortionThefirsteffectinthechainisobviousastandarddistortion.Thiseffectisusefulinsituationswhenyouwishtoaddsomedrivetosolosordosomenastyclippingeffectsdependingonthesounddesignapplication.Thereareseventypesofdistortionavailable:

1.MELLOWDRIVE:Asoft,mellowdistortionsomewhatdarksounding.2.OVERDRIVE:Theclassicsoundofanoverdriventubeamp.3.CRYDRIVE:Distortionwithahighfrequencyboost.4.MELLOWDIST:Soundslikethedistortionyoudgetfromareallybigamp.5.LIGHTDIST:Adistortionwithanintense,brilliantfeel.6.FATDIST:Boostedlowsandhighsgivesthisoneathick,fatsound.7.FUZZDIST:LikeFATDIST,butwithevenmoredistortion.

2.PhaserIntypicalphaser,modulationeffectiscreatedbymixingoriginalsoundwithaphaseshiftedone.Resultisaswirlingeffectandisbestsuitedforbackingsoundssuchasstringsorelectricpianos.Phaserwillbemosteffectiveonsoundsrichwithharmonics,suchassaworpulsewaves.Thereforeitwouldbebettertoinsertthephaserafterthedistortionorspectrum.Forthebestresults,youshouldusecenterfrequencyataround1kHz.

3.SpectrumSpectrumisaneffectthatmodifiessoundbyboostingorcuttingspecifiedfrequencyareas,resultingindifferenttonecolors.Thiseffectmightlooksimilartoanequalizer.However,thefrequencyofeachbandhasbeensetattheoptimallocationforaddingadistinctivecharactertothesound.Ratherthancorrectingthesound,spectrumallowsyoutoaggressivelymodifythetonalcharacter.

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Spectrumwillbebestheardonspectralrichsoundssuchaswhitenoise.There,thechangewillbemostevident.Formostexpressiveresultusenarrowbandwidth(setitto5)andtrysettingallbandstomaxgain(positiveornegative).Whenusingwidebandwidthsettings(setto1)soundbecomeslessdistinctive,anditstartstosoundlikeanordinaryEQ.

4.EnhancerEnhancerisasortofauralexcitertypeofeffect.Canbeeffectiveforsharpeningupthevocaltypesofpatches,flutes,guitars,etc.Itwillreallyhelptheinstrument(patch)standoutinthemix.Itsfunctionistogeneratenewovertonesoutofthefundamentalones.Withsensitivityyoucansetthedepthofenhancereffect.Whilewiththemixparameteryouarespecifyingthemixtureoforiginalsoundandthenewlycreatedsoundovertones.

EffectssetuponXVImagebelowshowsustherealJD800effectprocessorrouting.Asyoucansee,effectsgroupAisconnectedinbothseriesandparalleltogroupB.SamethingcanbedoneinXV.TheonlydifferenceisthatonXVthereisnoeffectsgroupB,butinsteadthereisseparatechorusandreverb/delay.Sincetheycanbeconfiguredinseriesorparallel,youcanthinkofthemasgroupBwithonlydifferencethatyoucanhaveeitherdelayorreverb,butnotbothlikeontheJD.

ImagebelowshowsustypicalJD800effectssetupemulatedonXV.ChorusandreverbsimulateJDseffectgroupBwhileMFX:75JDMltprovidesgroupA.Inthisexample,groupAisconnectedinseriestogroupB.InsidegroupBweconnectedchorusandreverbinparallel

(M+R),sothatwegetchorusedsignaloutfollowedbyreverb/delay(inthisexampleiused

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(M+R),sothatwegetchorusedsignaloutfollowedbyreverb/delay(inthisexampleiusedReverb1,type:Delay).

Itispossibletohavedelayandreverbatthesametime,butyouwilllosechorus.Ifthissetupisrequired,justsetchorustotype2:delay(2001000ms).Nowyouwillhavebothdelayandreverb.

ConversiontableBeforestartingtobuildorconvertyoufirstJDpatches,keepinmindthatJDandXVhavedifferentfilternumeratingsystem.Forexample,maxresonanceonJDis100whileonXVis127.Sameiswiththecutoff.AndexactlythesamethingappliesforotherparametersthatonJDgoinrangefrom099,whileonXVandSuperJVtheygofrom0127.ForbetterconversionofyourJDpatchesyouwillneedthisJD/XVconversiontable.

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RolandSuperJV?OkwhygivinghopetoRolandSuperJVusersbyplacingitinthesametitle?LetssayitisforthosewhoareconstantlysendingmemessageshowdoigetthisJDpadconvertedintomySuperJV.Well,tobefrank,youcant!Youcantryit.Butyouwillnevergetthere.Ok?ThesetwomachineshavedifferentgainstructureanddynamicrangewhichmakesJDsoundalittlebitharder.ForexampleyoucannotmakesoftsoundingbasslineonaJD,itwillalwayshavethishardcharactertoit(notsoftinawayyoucanmakeitonSuperJV).ThereasonishighergainandmostlikelysmallerdynamicrangeoftheJDfiltersection.ButontheotherhandyouwillneverachievethoselegendaryhighfrequencyshimmeringpadsonaSuperJV,simplybecauseicantgothathigh,neitheritsfilter,neitheritswaveforms(whichare32kHz,comparedto44konJD).Andasalreadymentionedthesetwodeviceshavedifferentnumeration.SoifyoustillINSIST,hereiamprovidingtheabovetableforthoseofyouwhowanttoconverttheirpatches.Andforthesecondtime,evenifyouconvertalltheparameterscorrectly,youwontachieveJDssoundonaSuperJVmachine,justlikeJDwillneverachievethesoundofaSuperJV(whichis

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soundonaSuperJVmachine,justlikeJDwillneverachievethesoundofaSuperJV(whichisdarker,butalsoamuchsoftersoundinghint:analogstylebasspatchesonSuperJVaresimplystunning).Ideallyistohavebothmachines.So,thereyougo

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LowellApril8,2015at00:37

Thankyoufortheinfo.IwishedtocreatedtheCrystalRhodespatchbutIdonthaveaJDavailable

1.Haveyoualreadyconvertedthis?2.Doyouknowtheparametersofthepatch?Keepupthegoodwork

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Don SolarisApril26,2015at12:13

AskfolksonGearslutz.Someoneprobablyhasalltheinfo.

RichMirandaJune8,2015at22:51

UnfortunatelyYoucantgetCrystalRhodesonXVseries,unlessyouhaveJD800sidetosideforcomparissonoftheparameters.

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