RMC Auditor Review Sub-team Report

Sept 13, 2011Long Beach, CA

Sub-Team Voting Members Will Tate (TL), Triumph Aerostructures – Vought Aircraft Div Susie Neal, Goodrich Roger Pelletier, Bombardier Aerospace Rick Downs, Cessna-Textron Vince May, Honeywell Robert Flaharty, Spirit Aerosystems Steve LaScala, Northrop Grumman Bryan Milne, Gulfstream Jeffery Long, UTC (Pratt & Whitney) Kristine Armstrong, Rockwell Collins Eduardo Lorenzo Castro, Embraer Mike Roberts, The Boeing Company Mel Jeppson, ATK

Sub-Team Charter

This sub-team is responsible for:• Review and recognition of Accreditation

Bodies (AB), Certification/Registration Bodies (CRB), auditors, trainers for Aerospace Quality Management Standards (AQMS), auditor competency training and auditor approvals for all of the Aerospace AQMS i.e. AS 9100, AS 9110, AS 9120.

Total Auditors Approved / Total Rejected Apr – 08 Jul 2011Jul – Sep 09, 2011

• AS 9100B

• AEA/AIEA - 4/1

• AA - 3/0

• AS9100:2009

• AIEA/AEA – 6/1(4)

• AA – 3/0 (3)

• AS 9110

• AEA/AIEA – 0/0

• AA – 3/0

• AS9110:2009

• AEA/AIEA – 2/1

• AA – 0/0

Total Auditors Approved / Total Rejected YTD 2011

• AS 9100B

• AEA/AIEA - 9/3

• AA - 6/0

• AS9100:2009

• AIEA/AEA – 9/4

• AA – 6/3

• AS 9110

• AEA/AIEA – 0/0

• AA – 4/0

• AS9110:2009

• AEA/AIEA – 3/1

• AA – 3/0

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Reason for Auditor Rejections: 2010

2011Didn’t Meet Work Experience Reg: 80% 85%Witness Audits/Training Not complete: 20 % 15%

CBs & Training Courses Apr – 09 Sep 2011• No Training Courses Have Been Reviewed or Approved• No Trainer/evaluators were approved• 1 CB Approved – Orion Registrars, Inc – AS9110

• Auditor work experience issues• Definition in AS9104 not specific in definition of

prime supplier• Recent applicants experience does not meet AS9104

• Issues with RABQSA submissions for Concurence• Not all documentation provided

• AS Lead Auditor training Evidence• Experience does not meet requirements• Process has added additional delay time for applicants

Concerns

• Recent Applicants with issues– Lakshamanan Govindan – AS9100 AA (“AS” Lead auditor training issues)– Adrian Padilla – AS9100 AIEA (Experience issue)– Mark Krefman – AS9100 AA (No “AS” Lead auditor course)– Sherry Gall – AS9100 AIEA (Possible Experience issue)– Jamie Harmon – AS9100 AEA (2nd witness audit invalid)

– Rocky Blue – AS9100 AIEA (Experience issue, coatings, “AS” Lead auditor course)– Patrick Spink – AS9100 AA (No “AS” lead auditor course doc.)

Concerns (con’t)

Questions and Thoughts