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Branded ElectricsCreated by: Tony Hoggart on 01/23/2002 at 06:29 PM
Feb 1998TB3.DOC
2Technical BulletinGenerator Drive
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Engineering Change - Central Area
The purpose of this document is to inform Cummins Distributors and Original Equipment Manufacturers of changes in the starter motor (ST) and alternator (EE) options contained in the Stanfast specifications for 4B and 6B series engines.
These changes may affect your wiring harness and wiring diagrams.
Cummins badged Bosch electrics are replacing the Lucas equipment contained in the option listed below;
Engine model; 4B3.9G, 4BT3.9G, 4BTA3.9G
EE9051 (part number 3920679) replaces EE9016 (part number 3907749)Bosch type K1 Lucas type A-12712V, 53Amp 12V, 55Amp ST9105 (part number 3283329) replaces ST 9008 (part number 3911516)Bosch type 001-362-319 Lucas type M12712V 12V
Engine Model; 6BT5.9G
EE9051 (part number 3920679) replaces EE9016 (part number 3907749)Bosch type K1 Lucas type A-12712V, 53Amp 12V, 55Amp
ST9104 (part number 3283330) replaces ST 9008 (part number 3911516)Bosch type 001-367-079 Lucas type M12712V 12V
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The following drawings are available upon request;
1. Drawing 3911516 Lucas Starter Motor
2. Drawing 3907749 Lucas Alternator
3. Drawing 3902964 Bosch Alternator 3920679
4. Drawing 3283330 Bosch Starter Motor
5. Drawing 3283329 Bosch Starter Motor
These changes take place on all engines built after 8th April 1998.
If you require further clarification on any of the data contained in this Technical Bulletin, then please do not hesitate to contact the Undersigned at ;
Cummins Engine CompanyEuropean Technical OperationsYarm RoadDarlingtonCounty DurhamDL1 4PW
Yours Faithfully
Bill PearcePower Generation Application Engineer
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Cummins Branded Starters and Alternators Service Bulletin #3666191
Created by: Tony Hoggart on 01/23/2002 at 06:31 PM
3666191.pdf
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ct2563666191.pdf
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Delco Remy 20SI vs 23SICreated by: Tony Hoggart on 01/23/2002 at 06:30 PM
The difference between the KTA-50 -G3 alternator and the QSKV-45 alternator areshown below:-
KTA-50-G3 QSKV45
Option EE8080 EE6034Delco Remy 20 SI Delco Remy 23 SI
Output 24V-35A Output 24V-55A3 Terminal 4 TerminalPositive Ground Positive GroundRelay Relay Indicator
Attached file shows details of the 22Si unit which is similar to the 23Si unit
22sispec.pdf
The 23SI brushless alternator gives more output and offers a longer service life for mid range diesel engines with high electrical load requirements. However the customer uses the 23SI in the same way as the 20SI.
The development of the 23SI has been evolutionary and offers the following benefits over the 20SI:
More output in smaller package1.Longer life2.More durable3.Better vibration resistance4.Vibration resistant diode trio 5.
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Leadershipthrough Technology
Heavy Duty Alternators
Vibration-ResistantFrame Design
The advantage fleets and owneroperators want. Delco RemyAmericas 22 SI is the newstandard of quality andperformance for a brush-typealternator for todays electricalloads and durabilityrequirements.
Radial brush construction increasesservice life. This system has morebrush volume and length thanany unit of its size; more brushvolume equals longer life.Combined with an advancedslip-ring assembly and ourinnovative rotor machiningprocess, brush bounce anddynamic wear are virtuallyeliminated.
Auto-Start instantly turns on thealternator. This system allowscharging immediately afterstarting. On 12 volt models thediodes prevent electric spikes,up to 40 volts, from damagingthe unit or other electronics. The22 SI has indicator light I andrelay R terminals for quickinstallation and excellent RFIsuppression.
Structural integrity is enhanced. Therobust end frames have heavy-duty environmentally sealedbearings to withstand severebelt loads and vibrationresistant mounting lugs. Thesedurable frames are assembledwith SAE grade 8, 1/4-20 boltsfor added rigidity.
An excellent warranty guaranteessatisfaction. Delco Remy Americais generating a new standard ofvalue with the 22 SI andbacking that up with a superbwarranty. Or, if you're in themarket for new equipment getthe advantage; specify the22 SI Alternator. See your OEMdealer for warranty details.
Need more info about the 22 SI?Just contact your Delco RemyService Representative at1-800-DRA-5131. Well be gladto answer your questions orprovide additional information.
The 22 SIBrush Alternator
Instant turn-onwith "Auto Start"
More Brush VolumeMore Brush Life
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Leadershipthrough Technology
SpecificationsPerformance Output12 Volt
145 Amperes - 12 Volt130 Amperes - 12 Volt100 Amperes - 24 Volt
24 Volt70 Amperes50 Amperes
The 22 SI Heavy Duty Brush Alternator
Delco Remy America, Inc., 2902 Enterprise Drive, Anderson, Indiana 46013 U.S.A.
Maximum Speed10,000 rpm Continuous12,000 rpm Intermittent
RotationClockwise
Temperature Limits-30O F or -34O C Ambient+200O F or +93O C Ambient
OutputTerminal
RelayTerminal
Indicator LightTerminal
RectifierBridge
RadialBrush
Module
LargeGrease
Reservoir
Auto StartSystem
Heavy-DutyPolyacrylate Sealed
Ball Bearing
Rotor and Slip RingAssembly
Heavy-DutyPolyacrylate Sealed
Roller Bearing
Die CastAluminum Fan
22 SI Performance Curves
198.0 mm
175
150
125
100
AM
PE
RE
S
75
25
145 amp 12V
100 amp 12V
50
130 amp 12V
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
RPM x 1000
(28V @ 25OC)
217.0 mm
1450 amp 24V
1470 amp 24V
21 3 4 5 6 7 8
RPM x 1000
90
75
60
(14V @ 25C)
AM
PE
RE
S
105
45
30
151
Copyright DRI 1997, DRA/GE1036-9/97Delco Remy is a registered trademark licensed by General Motors Corporation.
PolarityNegative Ground Standard
MountingSAEJ180 Standard
Weight14.2 pounds or 6.46 kg
ct25622sispec.pdf
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Recommended Battery RatingsCreated by: Tony Hoggart on 01/23/2002 at 06:34 PM
battery.pdf
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ct256battery.pdf
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EMC Directive - revisionCreated by: Tony Hoggart on 01/23/2002 at 06:49 PM
Communiqu issued by :Catherine Renard (CENELEC), tel : + 32 2 519 69 96, fax : + 32 2 519 69 19, E-mail : [email protected]
PRESS RELEASE 12 October 2000
CENELEC HAS JUST RATIFIED ESSENTIAL CHANGES TO ITS STANDARDS COVERING ELECTROMAGNETIC COMPATIBILITY
Industry has been lobbying for a long time for publication of essential changes to EN 61000-3-2 which gives a presumption of conformity to the EMC Directive. At its Technical Board meeting on the 4th October, the necessary amendment was ratified for publication by the end of the year.
During its meeting in Lucerne (October 3-5), the 105th CENELEC Technical Board ratified the amendment A14 to the standard EN 61000-3-2:1995 Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) Part 3-2: Limits Limits for harmonic current emissions (equipment input current up to and including 16A per phase).The following implementation dates were fixed: Date of ratification: 2000-10-03Date of announcement: 2000-12-01Date of publication: 2001-01-01Date of withdrawal: 2004-01-01
The rapid availability of EN 61000-3-2:1995/A14 to the National Committees will be ensured as well as the urgent transmission of the EN reference to the European Commission for immediate publication in the Official Journal under the heading of the EMC Directive.
With the present decision, it is ensured that from the first of January 2001 the relevant products will have the possibility of choice to benefit from the presumption of conformity to
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the essential requirements of the EMC Directive by complying either with the specifications laid down in the EN, or those of the EN as modified by its amendment 14 and this up to the first of January 2004. After this date only the latter configuration will apply. This will be welcomed by many industrial circles and manufacturers associations.
CENELEC, (the European Committee for Electrotechnical Standardization), has the institutional responsibility and authority in application of the European Commission Directive 98/34/EC for proposing, adopting and editing the European electrotechnical standards for products and services brought on the European Market. CENELEC adopts the required standards, in co-operation with the IEC, ETSI and CEN. CENELEC also seeks to co-ordinate voluntary certification and testing schemes for electrotechnology. CENELEC deliverables are European Standards (EN), Harmonization Documents (HD), or European Pre-Standards (ENV), Reports and European Specification (ES). When European standards deviate from International standards, they do so via common modifications. These achievements create a unified and open market for the whole world.
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QST30 wiring harness option changes
Created by: Tony Hoggart on 01/21/2003 at 05:19 PM
Q30 Starter & Alternator Harness Option Change
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12/10/2002
QST 30 Wiring Harness Optionsfor the Dominion Control
System
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12/10/2002
QST 30 Dominion Wiring Harness Options
Current Extension Harness Options WR 5008
No Extension Harness WR 5010
1.5m Extension Harness (Part # 4068097) WR 5011
5.0m Extension Harness (Part # 4068098) WR 5012
10.0m Extension Harness (Part # 4068099)
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12/10/2002
QST 30 Dominion Wiring Harness Options
Current Starter/Alternator Harness Options SB 5701
4067815 Mounted on Engine Automatically selected when an alternator, mag switch(s) and starter(s) are
selected by the customer SB 5702
4067815 Shipped in a Kit Automatically selected when customer does not order an alternator, or orders
the engine without a starter. SB 5703
No content option for Cummins Power Generation only
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12/10/2002
QST 30 Dominion Wiring Harness Options
Proposed Starter/Alternator Harness Options Mandatory EA options, where Customer has the option of ordering a no
content option in order not to receive the 4067815. This gives thecustomer the choice of picking the harness, rather than they have to getone no matter what. Customer must select 1 of the 3 options listed below.
EA 5011 4067815 Mounted on Engine Can only be selected when an alternator, starter(s) and mag switch(s) are
ordered and installed on the engine at the factory. EA 5012
4067815 Shipped in Kit May be ordered when customer does not order an alternator, starter, or mag
switch installed on the engine at the factory, but still wants the harness forinstallation at their site.
EA 5013 Can be ordered regardless of if customer orders an alternator, starter, or mag
switch or not. Engine is shipped without the 4067815 harness.
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12/10/2002
QST 30 Dominion Wiring Harness Options
In order to make the tables for the new EA options work, other newoptions had to be created, but also give the customer a clear choice onwhat they are receiving wit the engine. It is similar to what is alreadydon with Starter (ST 50xx) options.
Alternator (EE 50xx) Options made mandatory EE 5085 created as a No Content Option for selection when customers do
not wish to have an alternator installed on the engine at the factory. Previously, customers did not select an EE option when they didnt want an
alternator. Starter Mag. Switch Options made mandatory
SB 5003 created as a No Content Option for selection when customers donot wish to have a mag. switch or switches installed on the engine.
Previously, customers did not select an SB option when they didnt want analternator.
Current Starter Options do not chage Customer can still pick ST 5028 as a No Content option as always
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12/10/2002
QST 30 Dominion Wiring Harness Options
Current Alternator Options EE 5059
24V, 35A 20 SI 300 Delco-Remy Alternator (Part # 3016627) EE 5067
24V, 75A 33 SI 400 Delco-Remy Alternator (Part # 4000590) EE 5068
24V, 100A 30 SI 400 Delco-Remy Alternator (Part # 3400698)
New EE options EE 5085
New No Content Option Ordered when customer does not want an alternator installed on the
engine at the factory. Same as previously not selecting an EE option, but must still be
selected.
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12/10/2002
QST 30 Dominion Wiring Harness Options
Current Starter Mag. Switch Options (ACCESSORIES,ELESTARTING)
SB 5001 1 - 24V Mag. Switch installed on the engine (Part # 3050692)
SB 5002 2 - 24V Mag. Switches installed on the engine (Part # 3050692
New SB Options SB 5003
New No Content Option Ordered when customer does not want a mag. switch or switches
installed on the engine at the factory. Same as previously not selecting an SB option, but must still be
selected.
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12/10/2002
QST 30 Dominion Wiring Harness Options
Compatibility Logic For New OptionsOption Number T-Table Compatibility / Table Information
C-Compatibility M-Major *-Delete 0-Only With W-With One X-Not With
EE 5085 01 C W-EH 5004 W-EH 5009 W-EH 5011
SB 5003 01 C W-ST 5017 W-ST 5018 W-ST 5019 W-ST 5023 W-ST 5027 W-ST 5028
EA 5011 01 C X-EE 5085 X-ST 5028 X-SB 5003
EA 5012 01 C W-EE 5085 W-ST 5028 W-SB 5003
EA 5013 01 C W-EE 5059 W-EE 5067 W-EE 5068 W-EE 5085
W-ST 5017 W-ST 5018 W-ST 5019 W-ST 5023 W-ST 5027 W-ST 5028
W-SB 5001 W-SB 5002 W-SB 5003
ct256Q30 Starter & Alternator Harness Option Changes.pdf
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Battery CCA and RC ValuesCreated by: Jim Peters on 01/30/2003 at 01:19 AM
Battery CCA and RC Values.
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January 2003
Battery CCA and RC Values(Cold Cranking Amps and Reserve Capacity)(RC values not the same for all battery suppliers)
Parallel
CCA RC CCA RC CCA RC CCA RCBattery Model
550 CCA 130 RC 550 130 1100 301 1650 493 2200 696625 CCA 160 RC 625 160 1250 362 1875 583 2500 816625 CCA 180 RC 625 180 1250 400 1875 636 2500 882750 CCA 160 RC 750 160 1500 362 2250 583 3000 816900 CCA 160 RC 900 160 1800 362 2700 583 3600 816925 CCA 160 RC 925 180 1850 400 2775 636 3700 882
Series Series Parallel
12
12V
1212
12V
12121212
12V
121212
12V
12V12V
24 V
12V12V
Battery Model
550 CCA, 130 RC625 CCA, 160 RC625 CCA, 180 RC750 CCA, 160 RC900 CCA, 160 RC925 CCA, 180 RC
CCA RC
550 130625 160625 180750 160900 160925 180
CCA RC
1100 3011250 3621250 4001500 3621800 3621850 400
24 V
12V 12V
Parallel
RC
550 CCA 130 RC
ct256Battery CCA and RC Values.pdf
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Battery CCA Requirements by Engine Family
Created by: Jim Peters on 01/30/2003 at 01:20 AM
Battery CCA.pd
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January 2003
Minimum Battery CCA Requirements by Engine Family
EnginesSystem Voltage B3.3 B3.9 B5.9 C8.3 L10 M11 QSM11 N14 NT855
12 Volts 550 625 800 950 1500 1800 1800 1800 180024 Volts 312 400 475 750 900 900 900 900
EnginesSystem Voltage QSX15 K19 QSK23 VTA28 QST30 KTA38 QSK45 QSK60 QSK78
12 Volts 180024 Volts 900 900 1800 1800 1800 1800 1800 2200 2700
Maximum Battery System CCA values for StartersStarter Model Starter
VoltageMaximum Battery System CCA Value
(for each if more then one) StarterMaximum Continuous
Current to Starter28 MT 12 Volt 1100 CCA 750
24 Volt 900 CCA 45037 MT & 41 MT 12 Volt 1875 CCA 1400
24 Volt 900 CCA 75042 MT 12 Volt 2500 CCA 1650
24 Volt 1250 CCA 85050 MT 24 Volt 1800 CCA 1000
System Voltage
System Voltage
Maximum Battery System CCA values for Starters
28 MT
ct256Battery CCA.pdf
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Cranking Motor Capactiy vs Engine Requirements
Created by: Jim Peters on 01/30/2003 at 01:23 AM
Cranking Motor Capacity.p
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January 2003
Cranking Motor Capacity vs Engine Requirements
Engine MinimumCold
CrankingEngineRPM
MinimumUnaided Cold
StartTemperature
F (C)
Power Required toCrank Bare Engineat Minimum RPMand Temperature
(kW)
Cranking MotorMake Model and
Voltage
CrankingMotor
Capacity(kW)
Clasificationof EngineParasiticsAllowable
B3.3 130 25 (-4) 1.40 Denso 12V 2.20 Med/Heavy130 25 (-4) 1.40 Nikko Denki 24V 3.00 Heavy
B3.9 125 10 (-12) 1.65 DRA 28MT 12V 2.90 Heavy125 10 (-12) 1.65 DRA 28MT 24V 3.96 Heavy
B5.9 125 10 (-12) 2.25 DRA 28MT 12V 2.90 Light125 10 (-12) 2.25 DRA 28MT 24V 3.96 Heavy125 10 (-12) 2.25 DRA 37MT 12V 4.48 Heavy125 10 (-12) 2.25 DRA 37MT 24V 7.46 Heavy
C8.3 120 10 (-12) 4.00 DRA 41MT 12V 4.48 Light120 10 (-12) 4.00 DRA 41MT 24V 7.46 Heavy120 10 (-12) 4.00 DRA 42MT 12V 7.76 Heavy120 10 (-12) 4.00 DRA 42MT 24 V 7.76 Heavy
L10 150 10 (-12) 5.25 DRA 42MT 24V 7.76 MediumM11 100 15 (-9.4) 5.35 DRA 42MT 24V 7.76 Medium
QSM11 110 10 (-12) 6.00 DRA 42MT 24V 7.76 Light/Med.N14 150 10 (-12) 6.50 DRA 42MT 24V 7.76 Light
150 10 (-12) 6.50 DRA 50MY 24V 8.95 MediumNT855 150 10(-12) 6.50 DRA 42MT 24V 7.76 Light
150 10(-12) 6.50 DRA 50MT 24V 8.95 MediumQSX15 100 15 (-9.4) 7.80 DRA 42MT 24V 7.76 Light
100 15 (-9.4) 7.80 DRA 50MT 24V 8.95 MediumKTA19 150 40 (4) 7.10 DRA 50MT 24V 8.95 MediumQSK23 110 14 (-10) 8.50 DRA 59MT 24V 8.95 MediumVTA28 150 16 (-9) 8.50 DRA 50MT 24V 8.95 MediumQST30 110 16 (-9) 10.50 2 X DRA 42MT 24V 16.50 Heavy
110 16 (-9) 10.50 2 X DRA 50MT 24V 17.90 HeavyKTA38 150 40 (4) 12.00 2 X DRA 50MT 24V 17.90 HeavyQSK45 150 10 (-12) 13.75 2 X DRA 50MT 24V 17.90 MediumKTA50 150 40 (-10) 15.80 2 X DRA 50MT 24V 17.90 LightQSK60 150 10 (-12) 16.80 2 X DRA 50MT 24V 17.90 LightQSK78 132 10 (-12) 20.00 3 X DRA 50MT 24V 26.85 Medium
ct256Cranking Motor Capacity.pdf
Branded ElectricsCummins Branded Starters and Alternators Service Bulletin #3666191Delco Remy 20SI vs 23SIRecommended Battery RatingsEMC Directive - revisionQST30 wiring harness option changesBattery CCA and RC ValuesBattery CCA Requirements by Engine FamilyCranking Motor Capactiy vs Engine Requirements