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Branded Electrics Created by: Tony Hoggart on 01/23/2002 at 06:29 PM Feb 1998 TB3.DOC 2 Technical Bulletin Generator Drive _________________________________________ Engineering Change - Central Area The purpose of this document is to inform Cummins Distributors and Original Equipment Manufacturers of changes in the starter motor (ST) and alternator (EE) options contained in the Stanfast specifications for 4B and 6B series engines. These changes may affect your wiring harness and wiring diagrams. Cummins badged Bosch electric’s are replacing the Lucas equipment contained in the option listed below; Engine model; 4B3.9G, 4BT3.9G, 4BTA3.9G EE9051 (part number 3920679) replaces EE9016 (part number 3907749) Bosch type K1 Lucas type A-127 12V, 53Amp 12V, 55Amp ST9105 (part number 3283329) replaces ST 9008 (part number 3911516) Bosch type 001-362-319 Lucas type M127 12V 12V Engine Model; 6BT5.9G EE9051 (part number 3920679) replaces EE9016 (part number 3907749) Bosch type K1 Lucas type A-127 12V, 53Amp 12V, 55Amp ST9104 (part number 3283330) replaces ST 9008 (part number 3911516) Bosch type 001-367-079 Lucas type M127 12V 12V

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  • Branded ElectricsCreated by: Tony Hoggart on 01/23/2002 at 06:29 PM

    Feb 1998TB3.DOC

    2Technical BulletinGenerator Drive

    _________________________________________

    Engineering Change - Central Area

    The purpose of this document is to inform Cummins Distributors and Original Equipment Manufacturers of changes in the starter motor (ST) and alternator (EE) options contained in the Stanfast specifications for 4B and 6B series engines.

    These changes may affect your wiring harness and wiring diagrams.

    Cummins badged Bosch electrics are replacing the Lucas equipment contained in the option listed below;

    Engine model; 4B3.9G, 4BT3.9G, 4BTA3.9G

    EE9051 (part number 3920679) replaces EE9016 (part number 3907749)Bosch type K1 Lucas type A-12712V, 53Amp 12V, 55Amp ST9105 (part number 3283329) replaces ST 9008 (part number 3911516)Bosch type 001-362-319 Lucas type M12712V 12V

    Engine Model; 6BT5.9G

    EE9051 (part number 3920679) replaces EE9016 (part number 3907749)Bosch type K1 Lucas type A-12712V, 53Amp 12V, 55Amp

    ST9104 (part number 3283330) replaces ST 9008 (part number 3911516)Bosch type 001-367-079 Lucas type M12712V 12V

  • The following drawings are available upon request;

    1. Drawing 3911516 Lucas Starter Motor

    2. Drawing 3907749 Lucas Alternator

    3. Drawing 3902964 Bosch Alternator 3920679

    4. Drawing 3283330 Bosch Starter Motor

    5. Drawing 3283329 Bosch Starter Motor

    These changes take place on all engines built after 8th April 1998.

    If you require further clarification on any of the data contained in this Technical Bulletin, then please do not hesitate to contact the Undersigned at ;

    Cummins Engine CompanyEuropean Technical OperationsYarm RoadDarlingtonCounty DurhamDL1 4PW

    Yours Faithfully

    Bill PearcePower Generation Application Engineer

  • Cummins Branded Starters and Alternators Service Bulletin #3666191

    Created by: Tony Hoggart on 01/23/2002 at 06:31 PM

    3666191.pdf

  • ct2563666191.pdf

  • Delco Remy 20SI vs 23SICreated by: Tony Hoggart on 01/23/2002 at 06:30 PM

    The difference between the KTA-50 -G3 alternator and the QSKV-45 alternator areshown below:-

    KTA-50-G3 QSKV45

    Option EE8080 EE6034Delco Remy 20 SI Delco Remy 23 SI

    Output 24V-35A Output 24V-55A3 Terminal 4 TerminalPositive Ground Positive GroundRelay Relay Indicator

    Attached file shows details of the 22Si unit which is similar to the 23Si unit

    22sispec.pdf

    The 23SI brushless alternator gives more output and offers a longer service life for mid range diesel engines with high electrical load requirements. However the customer uses the 23SI in the same way as the 20SI.

    The development of the 23SI has been evolutionary and offers the following benefits over the 20SI:

    More output in smaller package1.Longer life2.More durable3.Better vibration resistance4.Vibration resistant diode trio 5.

  • Leadershipthrough Technology

    Heavy Duty Alternators

    Vibration-ResistantFrame Design

    The advantage fleets and owneroperators want. Delco RemyAmericas 22 SI is the newstandard of quality andperformance for a brush-typealternator for todays electricalloads and durabilityrequirements.

    Radial brush construction increasesservice life. This system has morebrush volume and length thanany unit of its size; more brushvolume equals longer life.Combined with an advancedslip-ring assembly and ourinnovative rotor machiningprocess, brush bounce anddynamic wear are virtuallyeliminated.

    Auto-Start instantly turns on thealternator. This system allowscharging immediately afterstarting. On 12 volt models thediodes prevent electric spikes,up to 40 volts, from damagingthe unit or other electronics. The22 SI has indicator light I andrelay R terminals for quickinstallation and excellent RFIsuppression.

    Structural integrity is enhanced. Therobust end frames have heavy-duty environmentally sealedbearings to withstand severebelt loads and vibrationresistant mounting lugs. Thesedurable frames are assembledwith SAE grade 8, 1/4-20 boltsfor added rigidity.

    An excellent warranty guaranteessatisfaction. Delco Remy Americais generating a new standard ofvalue with the 22 SI andbacking that up with a superbwarranty. Or, if you're in themarket for new equipment getthe advantage; specify the22 SI Alternator. See your OEMdealer for warranty details.

    Need more info about the 22 SI?Just contact your Delco RemyService Representative at1-800-DRA-5131. Well be gladto answer your questions orprovide additional information.

    The 22 SIBrush Alternator

    Instant turn-onwith "Auto Start"

    More Brush VolumeMore Brush Life

  • Leadershipthrough Technology

    SpecificationsPerformance Output12 Volt

    145 Amperes - 12 Volt130 Amperes - 12 Volt100 Amperes - 24 Volt

    24 Volt70 Amperes50 Amperes

    The 22 SI Heavy Duty Brush Alternator

    Delco Remy America, Inc., 2902 Enterprise Drive, Anderson, Indiana 46013 U.S.A.

    Maximum Speed10,000 rpm Continuous12,000 rpm Intermittent

    RotationClockwise

    Temperature Limits-30O F or -34O C Ambient+200O F or +93O C Ambient

    OutputTerminal

    RelayTerminal

    Indicator LightTerminal

    RectifierBridge

    RadialBrush

    Module

    LargeGrease

    Reservoir

    Auto StartSystem

    Heavy-DutyPolyacrylate Sealed

    Ball Bearing

    Rotor and Slip RingAssembly

    Heavy-DutyPolyacrylate Sealed

    Roller Bearing

    Die CastAluminum Fan

    22 SI Performance Curves

    198.0 mm

    175

    150

    125

    100

    AM

    PE

    RE

    S

    75

    25

    145 amp 12V

    100 amp 12V

    50

    130 amp 12V

    2 3 4 5 6 7 8

    RPM x 1000

    (28V @ 25OC)

    217.0 mm

    1450 amp 24V

    1470 amp 24V

    21 3 4 5 6 7 8

    RPM x 1000

    90

    75

    60

    (14V @ 25C)

    AM

    PE

    RE

    S

    105

    45

    30

    151

    Copyright DRI 1997, DRA/GE1036-9/97Delco Remy is a registered trademark licensed by General Motors Corporation.

    PolarityNegative Ground Standard

    MountingSAEJ180 Standard

    Weight14.2 pounds or 6.46 kg

    ct25622sispec.pdf

  • Recommended Battery RatingsCreated by: Tony Hoggart on 01/23/2002 at 06:34 PM

    battery.pdf

  • ct256battery.pdf

  • EMC Directive - revisionCreated by: Tony Hoggart on 01/23/2002 at 06:49 PM

    Communiqu issued by :Catherine Renard (CENELEC), tel : + 32 2 519 69 96, fax : + 32 2 519 69 19, E-mail : [email protected]

    PRESS RELEASE 12 October 2000

    CENELEC HAS JUST RATIFIED ESSENTIAL CHANGES TO ITS STANDARDS COVERING ELECTROMAGNETIC COMPATIBILITY

    Industry has been lobbying for a long time for publication of essential changes to EN 61000-3-2 which gives a presumption of conformity to the EMC Directive. At its Technical Board meeting on the 4th October, the necessary amendment was ratified for publication by the end of the year.

    During its meeting in Lucerne (October 3-5), the 105th CENELEC Technical Board ratified the amendment A14 to the standard EN 61000-3-2:1995 Electromagnetic compatibility (EMC) Part 3-2: Limits Limits for harmonic current emissions (equipment input current up to and including 16A per phase).The following implementation dates were fixed: Date of ratification: 2000-10-03Date of announcement: 2000-12-01Date of publication: 2001-01-01Date of withdrawal: 2004-01-01

    The rapid availability of EN 61000-3-2:1995/A14 to the National Committees will be ensured as well as the urgent transmission of the EN reference to the European Commission for immediate publication in the Official Journal under the heading of the EMC Directive.

    With the present decision, it is ensured that from the first of January 2001 the relevant products will have the possibility of choice to benefit from the presumption of conformity to

  • the essential requirements of the EMC Directive by complying either with the specifications laid down in the EN, or those of the EN as modified by its amendment 14 and this up to the first of January 2004. After this date only the latter configuration will apply. This will be welcomed by many industrial circles and manufacturers associations.

    CENELEC, (the European Committee for Electrotechnical Standardization), has the institutional responsibility and authority in application of the European Commission Directive 98/34/EC for proposing, adopting and editing the European electrotechnical standards for products and services brought on the European Market. CENELEC adopts the required standards, in co-operation with the IEC, ETSI and CEN. CENELEC also seeks to co-ordinate voluntary certification and testing schemes for electrotechnology. CENELEC deliverables are European Standards (EN), Harmonization Documents (HD), or European Pre-Standards (ENV), Reports and European Specification (ES). When European standards deviate from International standards, they do so via common modifications. These achievements create a unified and open market for the whole world.

    Ends

  • QST30 wiring harness option changes

    Created by: Tony Hoggart on 01/21/2003 at 05:19 PM

    Q30 Starter & Alternator Harness Option Change

  • 12/10/2002

    QST 30 Wiring Harness Optionsfor the Dominion Control

    System

  • 12/10/2002

    QST 30 Dominion Wiring Harness Options

    Current Extension Harness Options WR 5008

    No Extension Harness WR 5010

    1.5m Extension Harness (Part # 4068097) WR 5011

    5.0m Extension Harness (Part # 4068098) WR 5012

    10.0m Extension Harness (Part # 4068099)

  • 12/10/2002

    QST 30 Dominion Wiring Harness Options

    Current Starter/Alternator Harness Options SB 5701

    4067815 Mounted on Engine Automatically selected when an alternator, mag switch(s) and starter(s) are

    selected by the customer SB 5702

    4067815 Shipped in a Kit Automatically selected when customer does not order an alternator, or orders

    the engine without a starter. SB 5703

    No content option for Cummins Power Generation only

  • 12/10/2002

    QST 30 Dominion Wiring Harness Options

    Proposed Starter/Alternator Harness Options Mandatory EA options, where Customer has the option of ordering a no

    content option in order not to receive the 4067815. This gives thecustomer the choice of picking the harness, rather than they have to getone no matter what. Customer must select 1 of the 3 options listed below.

    EA 5011 4067815 Mounted on Engine Can only be selected when an alternator, starter(s) and mag switch(s) are

    ordered and installed on the engine at the factory. EA 5012

    4067815 Shipped in Kit May be ordered when customer does not order an alternator, starter, or mag

    switch installed on the engine at the factory, but still wants the harness forinstallation at their site.

    EA 5013 Can be ordered regardless of if customer orders an alternator, starter, or mag

    switch or not. Engine is shipped without the 4067815 harness.

  • 12/10/2002

    QST 30 Dominion Wiring Harness Options

    In order to make the tables for the new EA options work, other newoptions had to be created, but also give the customer a clear choice onwhat they are receiving wit the engine. It is similar to what is alreadydon with Starter (ST 50xx) options.

    Alternator (EE 50xx) Options made mandatory EE 5085 created as a No Content Option for selection when customers do

    not wish to have an alternator installed on the engine at the factory. Previously, customers did not select an EE option when they didnt want an

    alternator. Starter Mag. Switch Options made mandatory

    SB 5003 created as a No Content Option for selection when customers donot wish to have a mag. switch or switches installed on the engine.

    Previously, customers did not select an SB option when they didnt want analternator.

    Current Starter Options do not chage Customer can still pick ST 5028 as a No Content option as always

  • 12/10/2002

    QST 30 Dominion Wiring Harness Options

    Current Alternator Options EE 5059

    24V, 35A 20 SI 300 Delco-Remy Alternator (Part # 3016627) EE 5067

    24V, 75A 33 SI 400 Delco-Remy Alternator (Part # 4000590) EE 5068

    24V, 100A 30 SI 400 Delco-Remy Alternator (Part # 3400698)

    New EE options EE 5085

    New No Content Option Ordered when customer does not want an alternator installed on the

    engine at the factory. Same as previously not selecting an EE option, but must still be

    selected.

  • 12/10/2002

    QST 30 Dominion Wiring Harness Options

    Current Starter Mag. Switch Options (ACCESSORIES,ELESTARTING)

    SB 5001 1 - 24V Mag. Switch installed on the engine (Part # 3050692)

    SB 5002 2 - 24V Mag. Switches installed on the engine (Part # 3050692

    New SB Options SB 5003

    New No Content Option Ordered when customer does not want a mag. switch or switches

    installed on the engine at the factory. Same as previously not selecting an SB option, but must still be

    selected.

  • 12/10/2002

    QST 30 Dominion Wiring Harness Options

    Compatibility Logic For New OptionsOption Number T-Table Compatibility / Table Information

    C-Compatibility M-Major *-Delete 0-Only With W-With One X-Not With

    EE 5085 01 C W-EH 5004 W-EH 5009 W-EH 5011

    SB 5003 01 C W-ST 5017 W-ST 5018 W-ST 5019 W-ST 5023 W-ST 5027 W-ST 5028

    EA 5011 01 C X-EE 5085 X-ST 5028 X-SB 5003

    EA 5012 01 C W-EE 5085 W-ST 5028 W-SB 5003

    EA 5013 01 C W-EE 5059 W-EE 5067 W-EE 5068 W-EE 5085

    W-ST 5017 W-ST 5018 W-ST 5019 W-ST 5023 W-ST 5027 W-ST 5028

    W-SB 5001 W-SB 5002 W-SB 5003

    ct256Q30 Starter & Alternator Harness Option Changes.pdf

  • Battery CCA and RC ValuesCreated by: Jim Peters on 01/30/2003 at 01:19 AM

    Battery CCA and RC Values.

  • January 2003

    Battery CCA and RC Values(Cold Cranking Amps and Reserve Capacity)(RC values not the same for all battery suppliers)

    Parallel

    CCA RC CCA RC CCA RC CCA RCBattery Model

    550 CCA 130 RC 550 130 1100 301 1650 493 2200 696625 CCA 160 RC 625 160 1250 362 1875 583 2500 816625 CCA 180 RC 625 180 1250 400 1875 636 2500 882750 CCA 160 RC 750 160 1500 362 2250 583 3000 816900 CCA 160 RC 900 160 1800 362 2700 583 3600 816925 CCA 160 RC 925 180 1850 400 2775 636 3700 882

    Series Series Parallel

    12

    12V

    1212

    12V

    12121212

    12V

    121212

    12V

    12V12V

    24 V

    12V12V

    Battery Model

    550 CCA, 130 RC625 CCA, 160 RC625 CCA, 180 RC750 CCA, 160 RC900 CCA, 160 RC925 CCA, 180 RC

    CCA RC

    550 130625 160625 180750 160900 160925 180

    CCA RC

    1100 3011250 3621250 4001500 3621800 3621850 400

    24 V

    12V 12V

    Parallel

    RC

    550 CCA 130 RC

    ct256Battery CCA and RC Values.pdf

  • Battery CCA Requirements by Engine Family

    Created by: Jim Peters on 01/30/2003 at 01:20 AM

    Battery CCA.pd

  • January 2003

    Minimum Battery CCA Requirements by Engine Family

    EnginesSystem Voltage B3.3 B3.9 B5.9 C8.3 L10 M11 QSM11 N14 NT855

    12 Volts 550 625 800 950 1500 1800 1800 1800 180024 Volts 312 400 475 750 900 900 900 900

    EnginesSystem Voltage QSX15 K19 QSK23 VTA28 QST30 KTA38 QSK45 QSK60 QSK78

    12 Volts 180024 Volts 900 900 1800 1800 1800 1800 1800 2200 2700

    Maximum Battery System CCA values for StartersStarter Model Starter

    VoltageMaximum Battery System CCA Value

    (for each if more then one) StarterMaximum Continuous

    Current to Starter28 MT 12 Volt 1100 CCA 750

    24 Volt 900 CCA 45037 MT & 41 MT 12 Volt 1875 CCA 1400

    24 Volt 900 CCA 75042 MT 12 Volt 2500 CCA 1650

    24 Volt 1250 CCA 85050 MT 24 Volt 1800 CCA 1000

    System Voltage

    System Voltage

    Maximum Battery System CCA values for Starters

    28 MT

    ct256Battery CCA.pdf

  • Cranking Motor Capactiy vs Engine Requirements

    Created by: Jim Peters on 01/30/2003 at 01:23 AM

    Cranking Motor Capacity.p

  • January 2003

    Cranking Motor Capacity vs Engine Requirements

    Engine MinimumCold

    CrankingEngineRPM

    MinimumUnaided Cold

    StartTemperature

    F (C)

    Power Required toCrank Bare Engineat Minimum RPMand Temperature

    (kW)

    Cranking MotorMake Model and

    Voltage

    CrankingMotor

    Capacity(kW)

    Clasificationof EngineParasiticsAllowable

    B3.3 130 25 (-4) 1.40 Denso 12V 2.20 Med/Heavy130 25 (-4) 1.40 Nikko Denki 24V 3.00 Heavy

    B3.9 125 10 (-12) 1.65 DRA 28MT 12V 2.90 Heavy125 10 (-12) 1.65 DRA 28MT 24V 3.96 Heavy

    B5.9 125 10 (-12) 2.25 DRA 28MT 12V 2.90 Light125 10 (-12) 2.25 DRA 28MT 24V 3.96 Heavy125 10 (-12) 2.25 DRA 37MT 12V 4.48 Heavy125 10 (-12) 2.25 DRA 37MT 24V 7.46 Heavy

    C8.3 120 10 (-12) 4.00 DRA 41MT 12V 4.48 Light120 10 (-12) 4.00 DRA 41MT 24V 7.46 Heavy120 10 (-12) 4.00 DRA 42MT 12V 7.76 Heavy120 10 (-12) 4.00 DRA 42MT 24 V 7.76 Heavy

    L10 150 10 (-12) 5.25 DRA 42MT 24V 7.76 MediumM11 100 15 (-9.4) 5.35 DRA 42MT 24V 7.76 Medium

    QSM11 110 10 (-12) 6.00 DRA 42MT 24V 7.76 Light/Med.N14 150 10 (-12) 6.50 DRA 42MT 24V 7.76 Light

    150 10 (-12) 6.50 DRA 50MY 24V 8.95 MediumNT855 150 10(-12) 6.50 DRA 42MT 24V 7.76 Light

    150 10(-12) 6.50 DRA 50MT 24V 8.95 MediumQSX15 100 15 (-9.4) 7.80 DRA 42MT 24V 7.76 Light

    100 15 (-9.4) 7.80 DRA 50MT 24V 8.95 MediumKTA19 150 40 (4) 7.10 DRA 50MT 24V 8.95 MediumQSK23 110 14 (-10) 8.50 DRA 59MT 24V 8.95 MediumVTA28 150 16 (-9) 8.50 DRA 50MT 24V 8.95 MediumQST30 110 16 (-9) 10.50 2 X DRA 42MT 24V 16.50 Heavy

    110 16 (-9) 10.50 2 X DRA 50MT 24V 17.90 HeavyKTA38 150 40 (4) 12.00 2 X DRA 50MT 24V 17.90 HeavyQSK45 150 10 (-12) 13.75 2 X DRA 50MT 24V 17.90 MediumKTA50 150 40 (-10) 15.80 2 X DRA 50MT 24V 17.90 LightQSK60 150 10 (-12) 16.80 2 X DRA 50MT 24V 17.90 LightQSK78 132 10 (-12) 20.00 3 X DRA 50MT 24V 26.85 Medium

    ct256Cranking Motor Capacity.pdf

    Branded ElectricsCummins Branded Starters and Alternators Service Bulletin #3666191Delco Remy 20SI vs 23SIRecommended Battery RatingsEMC Directive - revisionQST30 wiring harness option changesBattery CCA and RC ValuesBattery CCA Requirements by Engine FamilyCranking Motor Capactiy vs Engine Requirements