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    Acknowledgements

    Managing Editors:Jennifer Chung, Jay Lee, Dr. Michael Englesbe 

    Contributors:Megan Beems, Jennifer Chung, Anna Eliassen, Stephanie Kingman, Scott Kizy, Jay Lee,

    Linda Ma, Arin Madenci, Sarah Ponto, David Ranney 

    2013, Edition 1

    Surgery ResidencyApplication Guidebook

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    Introduction

    At the end of a four year medical school career, it comes down to this -

    doing everything in your power to find the best training programs for you

    and to maximize your chances of matching at one of those programs. At the end of the day, this is an imperfect science and each of us have only

    gone through this process once (thankfully). This book is a compilation

    of advice regarding the match process, and represents our best

    efforts to provide you with a reliable source of information specific to

    students interested in matching in general surgery (and general surgery

    subspecialty integrated programs). We fully acknowledge that there are

    many ways to go about this process and we have not attempted to coverevery possible scenario, but rather to provide some guiding principles

    and suggested approaches. We wish you the best of luck as you embark

    on the Interview Trail and much success when all is said and done!

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    Table of Contents

      Introduction

      Critical Dates in the Application Process ............................................1

    Pre-Interview Period:

      Finding Mentors ......................................................................................2

      ERAS Components ...................................................................................5

      Choosing Letter Writers .........................................................................7

      Choosing General Surgery Residency Programs ..............................8

      Scheduling Interviews ...........................................................................9

      What To Do If You’re Not Getting Interview Offers ..........................12

    On the Interview Trail:

      Getting to Your Interviews - Planning Logistics................................14

      Preparing for Interviews ......................................................................16

      Interview Day Strategy ........................................................................20

      Evaluating Programs ............................................................................22

      Thank You Notes ...................................................................................24

    Post-Interview Period:

      Making your Rank Order List ..............................................................26

      Closing the Deal ....................................................................................28

      Applying to Integrated Programs .......................................................34Appendices

      Sample Application Materials .............................................................37

      Sample ERAS-format CVs.....................................................................38

      Sample Personal Statements ..............................................................69

      Sample Couple’s Match Interview Tracking Spreadsheet .............75

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    PRE-INTERVIEW PERIOD

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    Critical Dates in the Application Cycle

    July 1: ERAS opens – first day you can access the system andbegin filling out your application

    September 15: ERAS submission begins – first day youcan submit applications; first day programs can downloadapplications from ERAS

    September 15 – 30: A handful of programs begin invitingapplicants for interviews

    October 1: Dean’s letter (MSPE) is sent to programs. Majorityof programs begin sending interview invites AFTER they have

    received the Dean’s letter.

    October 15: Application deadline for a small number of programs

    October 24 – 31: A small number of programs hold their firstinterviews during the last week of October

    November 1: Application deadline for the vast majority ofprograms

    November – January: Vast majority of programs hold theirinterviews during these 3 months

    First Three Weeks of February: Faculty meet to rank applicants

    3rd Week of February: Rank list due for applicants and programs

    2nd Week of March: Match status (matched/unmatched)

    released to applicants. Unmatched applicants participatein SOAP (scramble) to secure open positions or preliminary

    positions. Specific placement (which program) revealed five

    days later on Match Day.

    Mid-June: Intern orientation starts for most programs

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    Finding Mentors

    How to Find Mentors

    The process of applying, interviewing, and finally choosing a residency program

    is one with many nuances and high stakes. Luckily, you are surrounded bypeople who have gone through the process before you and who have helped

    generations of students through it all. Good mentors are a powerful resource

     that you should utilize to set you up for success. Ideally you should aim to seek

    out and maintain relationships with

    mentors in many different professional

    stages (resident, full professor,

    people in different administrative and

    leadership roles, etc.) and who canspeak to different aspects of who you

    are and eventually hope to become. As

     the mentee, you play a crucial role in

    directing and managing the relationship

    with your mentor. In order to best utilize

    each mentor’s strengths, you should

    have a general idea of what eachmentor has to offer and have some

    understanding of their background

    and biases. Do your homework and be

    familiar with where your mentor has

     trained, worked, what kind of research

     they do, with what other non-clinical activities they are involved, etc. Below are

    examples of people you can and should reach out to for advice and the kind of

    advice that each might be able to offer:

    • Surgery Clerkship directors: Be in communication with them often andearly on in the process. They have lots of experience and advice to offer

    and it will be to your advantage to establish familiarity and a good working

    relationship. They can offer realistic advice about choosing programs to

    apply to considering your credentials, making your rank list, finding other

    mentors, etc.

    Main Points:

      • Have multiple mentors at

    different points in theircareer path

      • Understand each mentor’s

    role and background

    and use their knowledge

    and advice accordingly

      • Consult your mentors

    frequently; they are your

    best resource!

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    • Surgery Residents: Great first-line of advice for the nuts and bolts of the interview season. You can ask about their experiences with specific

    programs’ interview days, how they evaluated the programs they saw,

     their decision-making process, how to prepare for interviews, etc. Keep in

    mind that they have a limited sample size from which to draw some of theirimpressions

    • Junior Faculty: Often they will have a good sense of the current status ofresidency programs, recent changes in training paradigms (work hours and

     the shift toward early specialization), and have contacts with faculty and

    program directors at other programs

    • Letter Writers: Ideally your letter writers are faculty who know you welland have worked closely with you. However, they often will also be more

    senior faculty and you should be prepared to present a fairly polished front

    when meeting with them. This means having an updated CV about which

    you should be able to provide more information when asked, a personal

    statement that has gone through at least a few iterations and is not in a first-

    draft form, and at least a vague idea of what your future interests clinically

    and academically might be. Your letter writers will often not be people towhom you will send emails about minor questions, but from whom you can

    elicit opinions re: your list of programs, your rank list, and who may be willing

     to make calls or reach out to people at programs that you are especially

    interested in when interviews are all done

    • Residents at other Programs: Any residents at other programs to whom youhave personal connections or who are U of M alumni should be considered

    as good sources of inside information. Emailing before or after an interview to solicit advice or honest opinions about things you feel you might not have

    gotten an accurate picture of during the interview is reasonable. However,

    remember that their allegiance may be at least partially to their program

    so you should be reserved and tactful in sharing your opinions of different

    programs with them

    • Alumni: Use your U of M connections! Faculty and fellows who are alumni

    of programs where you are interviewing are usually happy to share theirperspectives. Recent medical school grads and residents who are now at

    different institutions are also great resources.

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    • Senior faculty: Senior faculty have a great historical perspective onprograms and can assess a program’s stability over the years. They will also

    often be familiar with the program directors, chairperson and other senior

    faculty at other institutions. However, it is important to note that residency

    programs can change rather quickly, and reputation and rumor often lagsbehind the real-time changes that a program might be going through. Thus,

     the importance of getting multiple points of view and double checking your

    facts

    • Surgery Chairperson: At some medical school all students applying ingeneral surgery will meet with the chairperson at least once and will get

    a letter of recommendation. It is important to be prepared at this meeting

    because it is your chance to make an impression and to communicate the

     things that you think make you a unique and outstanding candidate and that

    you hope will be highlighted in the letter. Think about your future goals, your

    motivations for pursuing a career in surgery, and be able to verbalize a few

    key characteristics that you want all the programs to know about you

    Approaching Mentors: Be prepared to provide an updated copy of your CV,

    personal statement, and to provide any additional information that you think ispertinent to the advice you hope to elicit. For each mentor that your approach,

    your familiarity with their background will help you to direct questions that will

    make them draw upon their experiences and share their insight on particular

     topics of interest

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    ERAS Components What’s in the ERAS?:  • 3-4 letters of recommendation (includes Chairman’s letter but not the 

    Dean’s letter)

      • CV - activities/awards/publications/etc. - will be entered into an onlineformat

      • Personal statement

      • List of programs to which you are applying

    With each of the ERAS components (personal statement, CV, letters), it really,

    really helps to start early. Having your draft CV and PS (even if in a rough, but

    presentable draft form) ready for your Dean’s letter writer and other letter writ-

    ers will synergistically help make each item more compelling.

    Personal StatementFor most people, this is the most difficult part of your application. In general,

    you want to fly under the radar by writing something compelling but relatively

    bland. The goal is to have a personal statement that is solid. Many of your inter-

    viewers may merely skim it for red flags or interesting things to talk to you about

    (remember: anything you put in your CV/PS is fair game for your interviewer to

    bring up). Cater to the skimmers and write something simple. In order to accom-plish this, the single best thing you can do is just sit down for a couple hours

    and write something – anything – and do it early. Doing so will allow you to get

    feedback from your letter writers, who probably are or have been interviewers

     themselves and know what makes for a solid personal statement.

    LettersGive each of your letter writers as much notice as you can to get their letters

    in for you (> 2 weeks, if possible), but also give a hard deadline that is severalweeks before you want to submit your ERAS. Many surgeons are procrastina-

     tors. Remember to always be extremely cordial with your reminders. At this

    point, there may not be much choice in choosing your letter writers, but – as ev-

    eryone will tell you – choose surgeons who have worked with you clinically and

    ask each if he or she would be able write you an “excellent” or “very strong”

    letter. When you email each letter writer, it is often best to set up a physical

    meeting to discuss writing your letter and to provide a copy of your CV and PS.Again, giving each writer your CV and PS forces you to get several rounds of

    feedback on each item. Additionally, they have more information to highlight in

     their letter.

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    CVThere are two forms of your CV that you need. First, a CV that you can give to

    letter writers to facilitate their writing awesome letters. Second, your CV in

    ERAS form. For the latter, just like on the medical school application, you have

    a couple lines (~1000 characters) to explain each activity. As you would expect,

    be yourself, tell a cohesive story, etc. If available in your Surgery Education

    Office, it is extremely helpful to look at examples of previous applications (a few

    examples are included in the Appendix). Don’t plagiarize, but use this to find the

    appropriate tone, key things to mention, etc. Also, seeing the experiences of the

    classes before you will likely jog your memory and remind you of experiences/

    awards you received but may have forgotten about. Like your personal state-

    ment, start now and sit down and write a CV, then revise, revise, revise afterhaving your advisors look it over.

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    Choosing Letter W riters

     Surgery Faculty from ThirdYear Ideally, you have stayed in touch with one or two

    surgery faculty whom you met during your 3rd year

    rotations. C lerkship facilitators are often a good

    source, because you have met with them outside ofregular clinical duties and medical student

    education is important to them. Try to meet as early

    as possible with these surgeons so that your third

    year is fresh in their minds.

    Other Faculty from ThirdYear I would not recommend including letters from

    faculty in other disciplines besides surgery. The only

    exception would be if you have done extensive

    research with that physician. Many residencyinterviewers appreciate letters from their friends

    and other names they recognize. Plus, a surgeon

    knows the attributes someone needs to excel in the

    field and can best highlight those in a letter.

    Research M entorsVery important, especially at academic residency

    programs. Instead of just focusing on your clinical

    acumen, these letters emphasize a different skill set

    that will be important in the future. Moreover, youwill probably have spent more time with these

    faculty, so they truly know you better and can write

    more anecdotally.

     Surgery Faculty from 4thYear The majority of letters will often be from this group.

    Sub-Is in May, June, and July are ideal. It is best to

    request a letter right after working with someone,

    so they can best remember your performance. Youhave learned a lot during your 3rd year and can really

    shine during these rotations, giving faculty a lot of

    good things to write about.

    C hairman’s Letter 

    Some medical schools will include a letter from

    the C hairman of Surgery for all students

    applying in general surgery and will set up a

    meeting for each student. Be prepared for this

    meeting as it may be your first and only chanceto make an impression and communicate things

    you’d like highlighted in that letter.

    How to Pick Specific Faculty 1. Pick faculty whom you have spent the most

    time with and who know you best.

    2. Letters from full professors as opposed to

    associate or assistant professors may carry

    slightly more weight. Letters from faculty whoare well known nationally in their field may also

    carry more weight.

    3. Pick faculty who can highlight your different

    strengths: research vs. technical skills vs.

    patient management, etc.

    4. Ask for letters with the phrase: “Can you write a

    strong letter of recommendation for me?”

    5. Try to ask for letters in person with a copy of

    your CV, personal statement, and list of

    programs. You can also solicit advice about

    programs and your personal statement at thethat time

    6. Send faculty thank-you notes after they submit

    your letters to ERAS

    7. Faculty write letters every year, so they know to

    expect requests. Try to give as much lead time

    as possible and follow up with polite reminder

    emails as necessary

    ERAS RequirementsA. You can store as many letters as you want in

    ERAS, but you cannot send more than 4 to any

    one program.

    B. “Finalize” each potential letter writer in ERAS

    and print a cover sheet before asking for a letter.

    “Finalizing” just creates a slot for the LOR to beuploaded and does not mean you have to send

    out that letter to programs.

    C. ERAS allows you to send different letters to

    different programs, which is ideal if you’re

    applying to both General Surgery and

    subspecialty programs.

    D. Although it is possible for letters to be uploaded

    after submission of your ERAS application, try

    to avoid this. Ask early!

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    C hoosing General Surgery Residency Programs

     Academic or C ommunity HospitalsLarge academic centers are usually best-suited for those with a robust interest in research and/or other

    academic interests outside of a clinical career in surgery. Many academic programs require at least 2 years of

    research time during residency while other programs offer optional time for academic development; theseprograms vary from 5-7 years in length. Programs require a certain number of graduating residents each year,

    so there is the possibility that you may not be able to complete research or may haveto complete research

    depending on other residents’ plans if the research time is optional, as the number of residents doing research

    will vary from year to year. C ommunity programs are usually more clinically focused, may have higher case

    volumes, and are usually 5 years of clinical training.

    Geographic RestrictionsDo you want to live in a big city, near family, or only on the East C oast? Where is the nearest airport and

    how expensive are tickets? You have to live there for 5-7 years, so truly try to imagine your everyday life

    there. Many of the top programs have similar clinical and research opportunities, so location really

    separates them.

    Resident SuggestionsResidents are great sources of information because they have interviewed recently at many of

    the programs to which you will apply and may have friends at other institutions. If you hear a

    program recommended over and over again, it’s probably worth applying to.

    Faculty/M entor SuggestionsFaculty can offer good insight into programs’ reputations. Junior faculty mentors are an ideal

    starting point as they are far enough along in their careers to understand some of the pros and cons

    of different training paradigms and close enough to the residency process to know about more

    recent changes in program characteristics and reputations. Senior faculty have a great deal of

    experience to draw from, but their knowledge of programs may be dated, depending on how

    closely they follow current events. U sually the Chairman, Program Director and other faculty with

    medical education backgrounds are some of the best sources of information because they stay

    abreast of new developments and resident education at institutions. The key is to solicit

    suggestions from multiple sources and to find where the consensus lies.

    Specific Program C haracteristics to Consider1. Research faculty/projects or multidisciplinary research centers that correlate with

    your interests/expertise

    2. Quality of fellowship programs that residents match into

    3. Prominence of particular department of interest 

    4. Reputation for collegiality vs. hierarchical environment 

    Main Points:1. Apply to 20-25 programs

    2. Include both “dream” and “back-up” programs

    3. Talk to many people to solicit advice and suggestions

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    Scheduling Interviews

    GENERAL RULES:

    1. Initiate communication early – Whatever the reason, it’s in your best

    interest to initiate communication with programs ASAP. When scheduling or

    rescheduling interviews, spots fill up very quickly, so prompt communication

    will maximize your chances of getting the dates you want. When cancelling

    interviews, an early response will ensure the program has enough time to

    offer your spot to another applicant.

    2. Be courteous – A program’s surgery education office is responsible for

    scheduling and rescheduling interviews. They are the gatekeepers. If you

    come off as even slightly rude, they can make your life very difficult. Be

    courteous, even if the person you’re talking to isn’t, and you’ll be much more

    likely to get your way.

    Before Interview Invitations are Sent:

      • Make a calendar of all potential interview dates of programs you are

    applying. These are often found the program’s website, although some will

    not have them posted.

      • Once you get an invitation, you can quickly browse through the potential

    dates of other programs to minimize clashing and to try to schedule

    programs in the same city together

      • Invitations are sent by email, and spots ll up very quickly. Check your

    email frequently, or you may miss out. Smart phones with “push”

    notifications for email are very helpful. “Push” means your phone goes off

    whenever you get a new email (you don’t have to manually check it.

      • Shameless plug for Apple: If you have an iPhone, you can add noreply@ 

    eraspod.aamc.org to your “VIP” email list and set it so that you get

    whatever alert you want when you get an email from them (eg. text, loud

    obnoxious alarm etc.)

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    Accepting Invitations:

    • Respond ASAP – spots ll up very quickly

      • Email is the best medium unless directed otherwise  • Read the invitation carefully before responding. It often asks for specic

    information in your reply

    Example: Accepting Invitation by Email

    Hello ___________,

    Thank you very much for the invitation. I was hoping to interview

    on December 4-5 if that session is still available.

    [invitation specically requested the following information:]My specic areas of interest are Vascular, Transplant, and

    General Surgery. Please let me know if you need any further

    information from me.

    Thanks again for the invitation. I very much look forward to

    interviewing at [program name].

    Best,

    ____________

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    Cancelling/Rescheduling/Declining Interviews:

    • Don’t worry – programs expect some applicants will cancel/reschedule, so

     they are usually forgiving

    • Being courteous and professional is of particular importance. Lack of

    gratitude when cancelling interviews will burn bridges.  • Whenever possible, notify the program AT LEAST 2 WEEKS in advance so

     they can reschedule you or offer your spot to another applicant

      • If you cancel/reschedule on short notice (< 2 weeks), you need to have a

    convincing reason (death in family, severe illness)

      • If you cancel/reschedule ahead of time (> 2 weeks), you do not need to give

    a specific reason

    Example: Cancelling Interview by Email > 2 weeks ahead of timeHi _____________,

    My name is ________ and I am currently scheduled to interview

    at [program name] on January 12th. Unfortunately, I will have

    to cancel my visit. I am very sorry that I will not be able to

    make it. Please convey my sincerest apologies to Dr. [program

    director].

    Thank you again for the invitation. I sincerely regret having

    to cancel my visit.

    Best,

    ________________

    Example: Rescheduling Interview by Email > 2 weeks ahead of time

    Hi _____________,

    Thank you very much for the conrmation. I was wondering if it

    would be possible to reschedule my interview for December 15th.

    December 8th would also work for me.

    I understand that a limited number of candidates are

    interviewed on each date, and would be happy to keep my

    previously scheduled date (Jan 5th) if this is not possible.

    Thanks so much. I very much look forward to interviewing at

    [program name].

    Best,

    ________________

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     What to Do If You’re Not Getting Interview Offers

    Key Points  • It’s OK to freak out: After that, take a deep breath, talk to your faculty

    mentors, and take action

      • When to Start Worrying: After the Dean’s letter is released on October 1st.

    If you’ve only received a handful of interview offers in the first 2 weeks of

    October, you may need to submit additional applications to less competitive

    programs.

    • Critical Timing: Application deadlines for most programs are October 15 or

    November 1st. If you’re starting to worry and want to apply to more

    programs, you need to do it before this.

      • Remember: Programs offer interviews in several cycles, and applicants

    can match to outstanding programs even when they are among the last to

    be offered an interview

    The Setup

    You’ve submitted ERAS and all your letters are in. You’re waiting for interview

    offers to arrive and….nothing. Alternatively, you’ve received some invitations,

    but haven’t heard back from more competitive programs. Additionally, you

    may know other applicants have already received invitations from these

    programs.

    Timing

    Programs can begin downloading ERAS applications on September 15.

    Most will wait until after the Dean’s letter is released on October 1 before

    sending out invitations for interview. A few programs do issue interviews in

    late September, but the majority of programs, especially the larger academic

    institutions, send interview invites after the Dean’s letter is released

     throughout the month of October.

    Another important date to keep in mind is October 15 and November 1. These

    are the most common application deadlines for the majority of programs.

    If you haven’t received many offers in the first two weeks of October, it

    is important to evaluate the need to take some extra steps. This includesworking with programs you have already applied to or applying to additional

    programs.

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     What You Should Do

      1. Talk to your mentors. Bring a copy of your CV (board scores, clinicalgrades, research) and your current list of programs. If there are particular

    programs you are interested in, ask if they have connections at those

    programs or could connect you with faculty who do. Some faculty willdirectly offer to make phone calls on your behalf for interviews. Ask them if

    you need to apply to a few less competitive programs.

      2. For programs you have already applied to: Call/email the residencycoordinator, indicate who you are, express your strong interest in their

    program and your hope for the opportunity to interview there. If you are

    emailing, add a brief sentence with something specific about the programyou are interested in that also pertains to your own strengths/future

    interests (e.g. if program is affiliated with large county hospital with lots of

     trauma, mention you’ve had experience in trauma research).

      3. For programs you are considering applying to: Call ahead to see if they arestill offering interviews. Once you have submitted your application, email

     the residency coordinator to inform him/her that you’ve just submitted your

    application and express a specific interest in the program.

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    ON THE INTERVIEW TRAIL

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    Getting to Your Interviews - Planning Logistics

    Once you’ve scheduled your interviews there is a good amount of planning

     that is needed to help make the interview trail run smoothly, minimize stress

    and help you get where you need to be on time.

    The major logistic details that should be addressed before each interview:

      1. Getting to the city where the interview is being held

    a. Check the schedule for the interview day(s) and social event when

    purchasing your tickets. Most programs will have a social event

    (dinner or reception) the evening before the interviews and then a

    day of interviews following, but there are many variations on this

     theme. It is always a good idea to ask when the interview day of

    ficially ends, before booking travel

      2. Getting from the airport to your next stop, which is usually your hotel or

     the social event.

    a. There will be times when you will arrive without enough time to

    stop by your hotel to drop off bags and change. Plan ahead and

    have your outfit easily available so you can change at the airport

    and head straight to the venue.

    b. Map out how long it takes to get from the airport to your lodging soyou know your time constraints. If you rent a car, you can inquire

    ahead of time about the parking situation both for the social event

    and on interview day.

    3. Getting from the social event to your lodging. You should have a plan for

    how to get home after the event so you’re not stranded or stuck staying

    later than you want at the event when you have an early day ahead on

    interview day.

    4. Interview Day: Getting from lodging to interview site. You will usuallyget information about meeting time and location for interview day at

     the social event the night before, if not in advance via email. Make sure

    you know how to get to the meeting place and know how long it will take

    you to get there. If taking a cab, call the evening before and schedule a

    pick-up. If walking, allot extra time if walking in heels. Aim to show up

    10-15 minutes early.

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      5. Interview site to next stop, either back to lodging or to the airport. Again,

    plan ahead to determine if you have enough time to go back to your hotel,

    pick up your bags and head to the airport. If not, you should

    bring your bags with you to the interview day and make sure in advance

     that there is a place to leave your belongings, and that the interview day

    coordinator is expecting you to come with bags. You should leave yourself

    extra time on interview day morning for this.

      6. Finally, interview’s done and it’s off to the airport and then home or to

    another interview. There may be times along the interview trail when you

    will have back-to-back interviews and will be on the road for days to

    weeks at a time without a stop back home. Plan and pack accordingly.

    Remember to take into account changing time zones when planning

     travel. If you check your bag, always carry on your suit in case your baggets lost.

    Timing: It can be difficult to plan all these details because interview invitationswill roll in over a few weeks and you may find yourself with schedule conflicts.

    Before you find yourself in this situation, you should have a rough idea of which

    programs you would prioritize before others, so you feel comfortable cancel-

    ling/rescheduling according to the interviews you want most. Some programs

    will announce their interview dates and you can create a calendar of possible

    interviews to see where potential scheduling conflicts will arise. When sched-

    uling logistics, hotel reservations are a safe first step, granted that there are

    no fees associated with cancelling or changing a reservation. Because most

    airlines do charge a fee for changing tickets, you can wait to purchase tickets

    until you are sure you will not run into any scheduling conflicts for a particular

    date. Because most interviews do not take place during peak travel season, it

    will usually not be difficult to find the flights needed, even when booked only 2-3weeks in advance.

    TIPS:• Southwest Airlines: no fee for changing itineraries, free checked baggage

    • Some schools may have an alumni network of people willing to host 

    interviewing students visiting their city

    • Find a consistent way to keep all your interviews and travel scheduleorganized, and make sure to update it as you switch/cancel interview

    dates

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    Preparing for Interviews

    The Highlights:  • However you practice, make sure you practice and have answers to

    commonly asked questions

      • Go through your CV and make sure you can succinctly discuss eachaspect of it

    • Approach the answer to every question as an opportunity to highlight a

    unique aspect of yourself and of your application - be thoughtful,

    demonstrate insight

      • Get feedback from faculty

    The Full Story:Congratulations, you have received your interview invitations, set the dates,

    bought the plane tickets, and set up the lodging. It is now time to prepare for

    your interviews. Fortunately, to have gotten to this point you have already

    bypassed the first cut-off. Over 1000 students apply to each program and most

    programs will interview less than 100. You have already made it to the program’s

    short list. With that being said, the interview is a very important aspect of your

    application and can make the difference between matching at your first choice

    and falling lower down your list. Being properly prepared for your interview willallow you an opportunity to display your accomplishments and your personality.

    Practicing for your InterviewsThe first step to prepare for your interviews is practicing. Students prefer

    different methods to simulate interview situations. Mock interviews provide

    a secure environment to practice interview techniques, body posture, eye

    contact, as well as common interview questions. You can seek out mock

    interview sessions with the school counselors/career advisors or practice witha colleague. Practicing with friends offers a relaxed environment to rehearse

    different answers to common questions but lacks the professional opinion on

    substance and style that other methods provide. Likely, the best option for a

    mock interview is a faculty mentor. Schedule these mock interviews early and

    be prepared to take constructive feedback to improve your interview skills.

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    Along with mock interviews, being prepared for common questions can help

    ease some of the tension involved with surgical interviews. Most students

    found that outlining the answers to specific questions is beneficial. While

     the outline provides the student a chance to think about a question, it also

    maintains an answer’s sincerity in real interviews. Writing answers down

    allows a student to work through the proper wording and grammar, but can also

    come off as scripted in the interview.

    Some Common questions include:Why did you choose to pursue general surgery?

      Who are your role models and why?

      Where do you see yourself in 10 years?

      What do you look for in a program?

      Why our program?  Are you hoping to specialize?

      Tell us about your research?

      What are your hobbies outside of school?

      What is your proudest accomplishment?

      Why should we choose you?

      What traits do you feel are important to succeed in surgery?

    It is also important to think of answers to questions specific to your application.

    For instance, if there is a specific deficiency in your application, you should be

    ready to answer questions regarding that deficiency. Also be ready to describe

    any and all aspects of your application. If you included a research project from

    prior to medical school, you should be able to describe the project in detail in

    your interview. Some interviews have ethical questions so it is important to

    develop your own method to answer these types of questions. Think of ethical

    scenarios you witnessed during med school and be prepared to discuss thereason you or your team acted in that manner.

    Going into your interviews you should also know the assets of the programs at

    which you are visiting. Most general surgery programs have good websites

    which can provide you with the program’s mission statement, the basic

    structure of the program, recent accomplishments of the faculty, research

    opportunities, and recent graduate placement. Mentors can also help you by

    pointing out a program’s strengths and weaknesses. Having this informationcan aid you in developing well thought-out questions for your interviews.

    Gathering this information will also help later down the road when making your

    rank list.

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    Looking the PartIt is important to keep your clothing professional and conservative. This is not

     the time to try out new fashion trends or hairstyles. Men should wear a black,

    navy, or grey suit. The shirt should be a solid color, and should be matched to an

    appropriate tie. Shoes should be black or brown. Hair should be clean-cut and

    combed, and facial hair should be well trimmed. Women should wear dark pant

    or skirt suits (with pantyhose!). Non-collared shirts are perfectly acceptable to

    wear under your suit jacket. AgainNo low cut shirts or short skirts. In general,

    hair longer than shoulder length should be tied. Remember, these interview

    days are long and there usually is a tour of the facilities involved, so shoes

    should be comfortable. Proper attire at the night-before resident meet-and-

    greet events is also important, and ranges from casual to business casual. You

    can email the residency coordinator prior to your interview to find out the dresscode. For men, it is usually appropriate to wear black or khaki pants with a

    button-down dress shirt and for women a blouse/cardigan with a skirt or slacks

    is pretty standard.

    Not only do the meet -and-greet events provide a great opportunity for the

    residents of the program to get to know you, it also provides the interviewee

    an important opportunity to discover the personality of a program. While these

    events are normally not absolutely essential, it is always recommended thatyou attend. These events are usually only for residents and interviewees,

    however, as mentioned above, faculty may attend at some programs. These

    events are usually billed as a relaxed environment to get to know the program’s

    residents, but it is important to remember that most programs will seek

    feedback from residents following the event. With this in mind remember to

    remain professional. Alcoholic beverages are supplied at most of these events,

    and while the residents may drink more heavily, keep yourself to a maximum of1-2 drinks. Every year there are embarrassing stories of applicants drinking too

    much at these events, and these stories can easily spread to other programs.

    Finally, here are some tips to remember when going into your interview. It is

    important to be on time. This can be difficult as you may not know your way

    around this new city. If you have time, try to find the hospital the day prior to

     the interview. Make sure to leave with plenty of time in the morning and to ask

    your hotel the easiest way to the hospital. At your interview, remember to benice to everyone you meet. Shake hands, say please and thank you, and smile.

    You never know who is watching and who will offer an opinion regarding your

    application.

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    Once again, congratulations on obtaining your interviews. Preparing for

    interviews will help you stand out as a lead contender for the residency

    positions. Utilize mock interviews, rehearse your answers to common

    questions, and do your homework with regards to the programs at which you

    are interviewing. Dress professionally and conservatively. Enjoy your time at

     the night-before event, be on time, and, finally, remain cordial and friendly

     throughout your interview. Although this can be stressful, remember that this is

    an exciting time where you get to meet surgical leaders throughout the country

    and visit new cities across America. Have fun!

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    Interview Day Strategies

     What to bring to every interview:• Copies of your ERAS application, CV, research abstracts

    o Interviewers will ask you specifics about your research experiences,

    personal statement, or prior activities – it is always good to refresh

    your memory!  • Consider drafting responses to questions you are totally expecting and bring

     this with you

    o Ex. Why surgery? What was your most memorable case?

    • Can just be bullet points, helpful to review while waiting for ights

    Things to prepare for each program:• List of people you are interested in meeting during your visit

      o Recent Grads – always good to get the inside storyo Faculty members with your research interests, specialty choice

      o Chairs, Program Directors, etc. – Make a list of names and

    specialties

    • List of the reasons you were interested in the program in the rst place

      o You will frequently be asked why you wanted to apply or join the program

      • Include specic research interests, strong clinical experiences,

    global health, etc.  o If you went to the night before, comment on what impressed you about

     their residents

    • List of questions to ask the program – For both residents and faculty

    interviewers

      o You will be asked “do you have any questions for me?” more times than

    you can imagine

    Pre-interview social event:  • Expect to see primarily residents. This is your opportunity to see what kindof people the program likes to recruit.

      • Make it goal-oriented. Establish specic goals and questions before

    arriving. This will give you purpose and help direct you in case conversation

    runs dry. Without this, you can easily end up wandering aimlessly and

    appearing disinterested. Examples are below:

      o Goals: Meet 1 intern (who you’ll be next year), 1 mid-level resident (what’s

     transition like?), 1 research resident, 1 PGY-4 (who your chiefs will be),and 1 PGY-5 (what’s the finished product look like)

      o Questions: where are you in your training, what specialty are you

    interested in, where do you live, what’s the culture of the program like,

    any advice for interviews tomorrow (this one can be surprisingly

    valuable)

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    Interviews:

      • Pace yourself, interviews are nerve-wracking so take a breath to organize

    your thoughts before answering questions

      • Be condent in your responses, always answer questions honestly andsuccinctly

    • Don’t be afraid to ask about things you are concerned about – research

    funding, specific lab experiences, strength of individual departments

      • Illegal questions happen, but an interview is a bad time to take a stand or

    make a point!

      • Give them whatever info you are comfortable with, but do not get upset

    during the interview  • You can address any concerns after you nish your interview with the

    PD or coordinator

    After Each Interview:

      • Write notes about what you discussed with each interviewer, it is really

    easy to fall out of this habit but it makes thank you notes so much easier/

    faster

      • You can easily plug a specic sentence about what you discussed, then they know you remembered the conversation

    • Also write down any additional questions you thought of after your time

    ended and mention them in your note

      • Before leaving, ask the residency coordinator for emails/addresses if you

    plan to send thank you notes

      • Send the residency coordinator a thank you note!

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    Evaluating ProgramsShort version:

    • Pick criteria, apply them to all programs, expect them to evolve with time

      • Keep a journal or spreadsheet and write down your impressions right

    after each interview  • Use both a qualitative (gut feeling) and a quantitative system (point

    system) of evaluating programs

    There is no consensus on rankings of the “best surgical programs” because

    everyone’s criteria differ. In truth there are a large number of excellent

    programs that will train you well as a surgeon. In evaluating programs you

    should take into account all of the factors below, knowing that not all are

    equally important to you in making your final decision. Take into account things

    outside of just your clinical training - i.e. family, academic interests, health

    policy, etc. Remember that although the interview is a time for you to sell

    yourself to programs, it is also the time when you should be critically evaluating

     the programs to make sure they are right for you.

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    FACTOR THINGS TO CONSIDER

    Location Close to family, friends? Cost of living? Will you enjoy living in this place for 5-7 years?

    Social event Was there good resident turn out? Did the residents seem to genuinely like each other

    and get along well?

    Residents Were the residents fun, interesting, people you could see yourself working with? Are the

    residents happy? Can they name specific things about the program that they like?

    Physician extenders Is there good support from PAs, NPs, etc. to help you with floor work so you can get to the OR even as an intern and PGY-2?

    Program Director,

    Chairman

    Is the Program Director approachable, do the residents consider him/her to be a good

    advocate for residents? Is the Chairman someone who prioritizes resident education and

     training and who will keep the program on solid footing?

    Didactic curricula What is the curriculum for ABSITE and general didactics? Is there a structured

    curriculum for lap skills, surgical knowledge, or is it a do-it-yourself program?

    Academic/Professional

    Development Time

    Many academic centers will have the option or the requirement for residents to engage in

    some sort of academic development period. Most often this will be for a 2 year period

    after the PGY2 or 3 year. What are the resources available (salary/grant support), what

     types of experiences are approved (additional degree programs, research, international

    experiences, etc.) does the program have mentors that you would want to work with?Sites What other sites will you cover as a resident in addition to the main hospital? Is there a

    VA or a city/county/community/private practice hospital experience? Often times you will

    have much greater autonomy and higher case loads at training centers like a VA or

    county hospital

    Strength of specific depts.,

    researchers

    If you have a specific interest in a sub-specialty or academic topic, inquire as to the

    resources and strength of those departments

    Stability of program Have there been recent changes in leadership or impending changes that would disrupt

    your training? Recent ACGME violations, probation status?

    Culture What is the overall culture of the program? Soft and cuddly, malignant, work hard, play

    hard, etc. Beware that many programs will have reputations that prove to be false. Make

    your own determination after you see the program

    Work hours compliance What measures have been put into place to achieve compliance - hiring of physician

    extenders, night float, etc.? Are residents routinely working more than 80 hours and

    pressured to underreport?

    Benefits, vacation

    schedule, salary

    Not the most important things to base your decision on, but important to note and may say

    something about the program’s philosophy

    Fit An overall impression of whether or not the program’s structure, resources, people and

    culture create an environment in which you think you can thrive

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      PROS CONS

    Handwritten

    Demonstrates thought and attention-

     to-detail

    Time-consuming to write and deliver

    Demonstrates thought and attention-

     to-detail

    Faculty rarely respond

    Must write neatly

    Email

    Faculty who were impressed will often

    reply and say this to you

    Faster to write, instant delivery May be frowned upon by “old-

    school” faculty or programs

    Good if you have bad handwriting

    Thank You Notes

     When: ASAP – Same day or next day if possible. You want their impression ofyou to be fresh when they read the note.

     Who:

    For All Programs: Program director + all people who interviewed you (if thechair interviews any applicants, then he/she should get a thank you noteunder the assumption that he/she is fairly involved in the rank process)

      If Particularly Impressed: Chair and interview coordinator

    How:1. Be sincere, succinct, honest

    2. Include specifics about your conversation with the person

      3. Avoid being formulaic. Thank you notes are included in your file and can beread by all faculty

      4. Avoid specifics on where you’ll rank them (even late in the interview season)

      5. Double-check everything (names, spelling/grammar). Errors will reflect

    very poorly on you.

      Why: Most programs expect to get one – not sending one demonstrates clearlack of interest.

      Point: Even the most eloquent thank you note is unlikely to elevate theiropinion of you  Counterpoint: A poorly-written, late, or non-existent thank you note CAN

    worsen their opinion of you (ex: well-qualified candidate comes off as

    arrogant)

      Bottom Line: Write your notes carefully and promptly, but don’t slave awayover them

    Handwritten vs. Email: Frequently debated point, but largely a matter ofpersonal preference. Doesn’t matter much in the end as long you as send awell-written note promptly.

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    Example: Thank You Note to Faculty/Resident Interviewer

    Dear Dr. _________,

    Thank you very much for taking the time to meet with me during my

    visit. I very much enjoyed hearing your perspective on how the

    training for vascular surgery continues to evolve.

    Throughout my visit, I was greatly impressed by the program’s

    commitment to excellence in patient care and clinical training.

    I was also particularly impressed by the residents and faculty.

    Their camaraderie and dedication to fostering an outstanding

    training experience truly set this program apart from others.

    They are exactly the kind of people I hope to work with during

    residency.

    Thank you again for your time and consideration. I was greatly

    impressed by the program, and hope to receive strong consider-

    ation for a residency position.

    Sincerely,

    _____________

    Example: Thank You Note to Program Director

    Dear Dr. __________,

    I wanted to thank you again for inviting me to interview at [pro-

    gram name]. I very much appreciated having the opportunity to

    spend time with the residents currently rotating on the vascular

    service.

    During my visit, I was greatly impressed by the faculty and resi-

    dents. Their collegiality and dedication to fostering an out-

    standing training experience truly set [program name] apart from

    other programs. They are exactly the kind of people I hope to

    work with during residency, and I would consider myself very for-

    tunate to have the opportunity to train at such an outstanding

    program.

    Thank you again for your time and consideration. I was greatly

    impressed by [program name], and hope to receive strong consider-

    ation for a residency position.

    Sincerely,

    _____________

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    Making Your Rank Order List

    Everyone is going to have different criteria and reasons rank one place over

    another, but beyond that single program or location that you may be banking on,

    it can be challenging to feel completely confident about your ROL. Below is the

    method I used to figure this all out. It is just one way, but it worked.

    Before interviews: After all interview offers and cancellations have been made,

    you will have a final list of programs. Go ahead and make a preliminary rank list

    and tuck it away for later. For me this was based largely on reputation of the

    programs.

    During interviews: After you complete each interview and evaluate the pro-

    gram, feel free to tweak your list. Some programs might drop quickly in yourlist while others rise to the surface. But treat it like a living document as you

    complete interviews and evaluate programs.

    After interviews: Congrats! Now it is time to really work on your list. At this

    point I had done quite a bit of soul searching and had boiled down my method

    for evaluating programs into a few critical elements that would guide my rank-

    ing. For me, these were quality of program and reputation, opportunities in the

    specialty I am pursuing, and quality of living (based on the lifestyle that matches

    my personality).

    Step 1: Immediately scratch off any program you do NOT want to train at.So ask yourself, “Worst case, would I rather match here for 5-7 years or

    scramble/do a preliminary year?” - this is something that should be dis-

    cussed with a mentor. The one caveat is please attempt to rank at least 10

    programs on your final ROL. Stats show that every unit less than 10 further

    reduces applicant chances of matching.

    Step 2: Break your list into groups. My top group was first tier programs Iwould love to go to. The middle group was first tier programs that I kind of

    liked or second tier programs that I really liked. And the bottom group was

    second tier programs that I kind of liked or third tier programs that I really

    liked. (Third tier programs that I did not like got scratched off the list in the

    last step!). I ended up with 3, 4, and 3 programs in each group, respec-

     tively. From here on, I only moved programs up and down within the same

    group. Making progress!

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    Step 3: Hash out the details. This was the hardest part for me—zoomingin and figuring out my true preferences. For each group, it might help to

    make a separate ROL for each criterion you value. For example, make a list

    based purely on location. Then one for quality of program. And so on. Youmight start to see some patterns or at least be able to solidify a few spots

    on your list. Refer back to the criteria in the ‘Evaluating Programs’ chapter

    for other factors that may be important to consider.

    Step 4: Allow plenty of time! As soon as you can enter your rank list, DOIT and CERTIFY IT. Let it sink in for a few days and see how it feels. Then

    make adjustments as your frame of mind evolves throughout the month

    prior to the deadline. I also recommend getting early input from your stu-dent colleagues, mentors, letter writers, family, and advocates. Eventually

    my list settled in and I became confident in my choices.

    Step 5: Make sure your ROL is certified. It should say Certified ROL . You’llget a confirmation email and that is it. If you make any changes just hit the

    certify button again. But please try to avoid making changes right before

     the deadline. Stats show a high rate of regret among applicants who do

     this. So give yourself the necessary time. After that, good luck!

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    Closing the Deal

    The Short Version:

      • 3-4 weeks before your rank list is due:

    o Settle on a preliminary rank list  o Find faculty who will advocate for you at your #1 choice

      o Send an email to program directors at your top 3-5 programs

      • General rules to follow when communicating with programs:

      o Never mislead a program about your rank list

      o For your #1 program: tell them in no uncertain terms you’re ranking

     them #1

      o For everyone else: convey sincere interest, but no specifics onwhere they’re ranked

      • When responding to messages from programs:

      o Take everything with a grain of salt

      o Be prompt, positive, and truthful

      • Caveats:

      o Not all programs send out emails, even to applicants they will be

    ranking highly. Don’t get nervous if you don’t hear anything fromyour top-ranked programs

    o Some programs may send out emails that overstate how highly

    you will be ranked; never base a rank decision based on these

    communications

    Examples:  • Example 1: Emails Sent to Top 3-5 Programs

      • Example 2: Responding to Email from Program Director–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––––

    THE LONG VERSION

    THE SETUP: You’ve made a preliminary rank list and identified your top choices

    YOUR GOAL: Convince your top programs to rank you as highly as possible

    THE PROGRAM’S GOAL: Convince their top applicants to rank them as highly aspossible

    TIMING: Most programs make their rank list 1-3 weeks before it’s due. Makeyour move before this.

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    The rules:

    Rule #1: Follow the rules set by NRMP

      • Programs can’t ask you specically about your rank list  • You can’t ask programs where they’re ranking you

      • Both parties ARE allowed to volunteer this information to each other

    Rule #2: Never mislead a program about your rank list.

    The most common example is telling multiple programs you ranked them #1. You

    will not be able to hide from the truth once the match results are released. If a

    program thinks you lied to them, you can forget about any future opportunities there (fellowship, faculty positions, etc).

    Important Tangent:  This rule also prohibits ambiguous statements  such as “at the top of my list.” It is too easy to misinterpret this as ranking that program #1.

    In addition, program directors weren’t born yesterday. Most will interpret “at

     the top of my list” as NOT #1. If a program is not your #1 choice, sincerely state

    your strong interest in the program, but avoid any specifics about where you

    ranked them.Rule #3: Programs like applicants who like them

    The reality: For most  applicants, once interviews are finished, your positionon a program’s rank list probably will not change no matter what you do. That

    being said, tactfully executed strategies can move you up on a program’s list,

    and certainly will not hurt your chances.

     What you can do: These steps need to be done 3-4 weeks before the rank list is

    due

    Ask faculty at your institution to advocate for you. General Surgery is a smallcommunity, so a trusted colleague advocating for an applicant has the most

    potential to help. Reserve this for your #1 choice. When deciding whom to ask, the ideal faculty advocate should:

      • Know you well and think highly of you

      • Have a personal connection to the program director, chair, or institution  • Be well-respected as a surgeon

    Admittedly, it is difficult to find an advocate who meets all three criteria. That

    being said, remember that any  advocate who knows you well and thinks highlyof you has the potential to help.

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    Send an email to the program director: Directly communicating your interest in the program is a crucial step (see Rule #3), although it is admittedly lower yield

     than having faculty advocate for you. Think of it as a “box to check” for your top

    3-5 programs. Emails need to be succinct and sincere (see Example 1). Specific

    instructions are outlined below:

      • For your #1 program: State in no uncertain terms that you are ranking

     them #1

      • For programs ranked #2-5: Sincerely state your strong interest in the

    program, but avoid specifics about where that program is on your list. For

    example, do not  tell your #2 program they are “at the top” of your list (seeRule #2).

    Responding to messages from programs: Programs will sometimes throw you abone. Typically, this happens after they have made their rank list. The program

    director will contact you and tell you anything ranging from “we were very

    impressed with you” to “you’re ranked to match.” Here are some pointers on

    how to react to this:

      • Take everything with a grain of salt. If a program is reaching out to you,you know they like you. The question is: how much ? Applicants tend torank programs more highly if they think they were well liked there.

    Programs know this, and often tell many applicants (not just their top 10)

     that they were “very impressed” with them.

    • Respond promptly (within 24 hours). Delays in responding make youappear uninterested and leaves programs feeling slighted (see Rule #3).

    If contacted by email, respond immediately. If contacted by phone, let itgo to voicemail first. Then, listen to the message, think about how you’d

    like to respond, and then call them back.

      • Be positive in your response. Even if that program isn’t in your top 3-5,you need to convey sincere interest in the program. If they ranked you

    highly, you want to keep it that way in case you don’t  match in your top3-5 (see Rule #3).

      • Remember Rule #2. You should definitely tell your #1 program that you’reranking them #1. For everyone else, tell them you’re sincerely interested,

    but avoid any specifics about where you are ranking them.

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    Example 1: Emails Sent to Top 3-5 Programs:

    Dear Dr. _________ (program director),

    I hope this email nds you well. < I wanted to let you know thatI will be ranking ________ #1 on my rank list. > OR  < Havingnished interviewing, I continue to be greatly impressed by __________. >  The strength of clinical training and researchopportunities clearly set the program apart from others. It

    would be an honor to have the opportunity to train at such an

    outstanding program, and I hope to receive strong consideration

    for a residency position.

    Thank you again for your time and consideration. I hope I willhave the opportunity to work with you in the near future.

    Sincerely,

    ___________

    Example 2: Responding to Email from Program Director

    Email Sent From Program Director to 30+ Applicants (why you

    should take everything with a grain of salt):

    Dear ____________,

     

    Thank you very much for taking the time and effort to visit us

    in __________ and learn about our program. All the faculty and

    residents were greatly impressed by you and your accomplishments.

    We all thought you would be a great t for our program and could

    do very well here. I hope you will seriously consider us for

    your future surgical training. Feel free to contact me if you

    have any questions about our program.

     

    I hope you have a Happy Thanksgiving,

     

    ______________ (program director)

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    Email Sent from Program Director with Reply (if program not ranked #1):

    Dear ___________,

    I wanted to thank you once again for your interest in ourprogram. All of us who met with you were thoroughly impressed

    by you, and we would all be thrilled to have you become a part

    of our program. I hope that we were able to convey to you our

    eagerness and commitment to train and mentor you to become an

    accomplished clinical surgeon and surgical scholar and to achieve

    whatever goals you set for yourself.

    We plan to rank you as one of our top ___ applicants, assuring

    that you will match here if you choose to do so. If you shouldmatch elsewhere, we hope that you will consider us for future

    fellowship training or faculty positions. We also hope that you

    will keep us apprised of your progress, and that you will feel

    free to contact us at anytime if we can be of assistance to you

    in any way.

    We wish you much success.

    Sincerely yours,

    ____________ (program director)

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    Dear Dr. ______________ (program director),

    Thank you very much for your message. I was greatly impressed byyour program during my visit. The strength of clinical training,

    supportive culture, and breadth of research opportunities clearly

    set ___________ apart from other programs. It would be an honor

    to have the opportunity to train at such an outstanding program.

    Sincerely,

    ___________

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    Applying to Integrated Programs

    There is a growing trend toward integrating general surgery residency and sub-

    specialty training. Currently there are integrated training programs in plastic,

    vascular and cardiothoracic surgery. As many of these integrated programs

    are relatively new, few in number, and highly competitive, applicants to these

    programs should take into account many specific considerations that differ

    from applicants applying solely to general surgery programs. The decision to

    apply to integrated programs and the approach to doing so is nuanced and

    should be discussed with faculty mentors, but the brief guide below covers

    some of the highlights.

    Getting your application ready:

      • TALK TO YOUR PROGRAM DIRECTOR to determine whether you will applyonly to integrated programs or whether you will apply to both integrated

    and general surgery programs

      • It is completely ok, and very common, to apply to general surgery

    programs in addition to integrated programs; however, in this case you

    should:

      o Have two completely separate applications- one for your general

    surgery and one for your integrated  • This means SEPARATE personal statements

      • If possible, have different sets of letters of recommendation

      o For example, having 4 letters of recommendation all from

    vascular surgeons looks suspicious to general surgery

    programs

      o It is helpful for your integrated LORs to have one from

     the program director- but try not to include this one in your

    general surgery application  o On the other hand, having some general surgeon letters

    in your integrated application will not hurt you (but it is

    helpful to have some letters from faculty within your

    integrated field)

      • You should never apply to both the integrated program AND the

    general surgery program within the same institution because

    programs may see this and you will lose out in both  • For your general surgery application, you will still need the Chair of

    Surgery letter

      o Err on the side of full disclosure and be completely honest during

    your meeting with your Chair, letting him/her know you will be

    applying to integrated programs.

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    How to choose which and how many programs to apply to:  • Again, review your resume with the program director of the integrated

    program at your institution (if you have one) and the Chair so they can

    gauge your competitiveness and give you advice tailored to you

    • Always overapply and cast a wide net- interviews are very difcult toschedule, and especially with integrated programs they may only offer

    one or two dates, so if you apply to 20 integrated and 20 general surgery

    programs, you may only be able to schedule 16 integrated and 3 general

    surgery…

    Difficult scenarios during interview season:  • Most integrated programs know you’re also applying to general surgery

    programs, and many of them would say you would be crazy not to, so donot worry if they ask you about this, just BE HONEST

      • If your general surgery application is suspicious for you having applied

     to an integrated program (heavy vascular or CT research projects,

    multiple letters of recommendation from vascular or CT attendings,

    personal statement, etc), you WILL get asked about whether you also

    applied to integrated programs

      o If this happens, DO NOT LIE. Tell them the truth but follow with why

    you decided to apply to general surgery programs too and use this as

    an opportunity to mention why you applied to their program specifically

      • The advice you will get about whether to disclose your application to

    integrated programs up front during your general surgery interview

    is mixed- however, in my experience, whenever I mentioned this to

    general surgery programs, I felt disregarded for the rest of the interview

      • Be ready to answer the question: “So, is general surgery your backup?”

      o (The answer is NO, even if in your case it is…)

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    On the interview trail:  • You will be interviewing with the same 20-40 people at most places

      o Making acquaintances/friends quickly will relieve the financial burden

    of interviewing- share hotel rooms, cabs, etc.

      o Make a google doc so that everyone can put their name, phone number,and where/when they are interviewing at specific places so that you

    can contact them/make plans together

      • NEVER say anything negative about any person or program, as this will

    come back to you because the circle is so small (although you should

    never do this anyway)

      • HAVE FUN! Interviewing is awesome because you are networking with

    great faculty across the country. Make a good impression regardless ofyour interest in the program because it really is a small world

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    APPENDICES

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    Sample Application Materials

    The appended documents are samples of real application materials from

    successfully-matched senior medical students and current residents. They

    are a limited sample, but are meant to illustrate the spectrum of interests

    and strengths that make a successful candidate. You will notice that some

    applicants were especially strong in research, some in academics, and

    others in leadership and extracurricular activities. There is no one prototype

    for a general surgery applicant just as there is no one way to best train a

    general surgery resident - every applicant and every program has its unique

    characteristics, strengths and weaknesses; the point of the interview process

    is to help you find the program that best fits you, and the goal of this guide is to

    help you have the best chance of matching at that program.

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    Michigan

    UNCDuke - MATCHED

    Johns Hopkins

    UT Southwestern

    Pittsburgh

    Brigham and Women's

    Northwestern

    Mayo ClinicWash U / Barnes Jewish

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    My first encounter with surgery occurred when I was in sixth grade. One

    afternoon in February, I developed back pain that rapidly worsened over

    the next several hours. My parents took me to the emergency room, where

    a pediatric surgeon was consulted and brought up the possibility of

    necrotizing fasciitis. Exploratory surgery confirmed the diagnosis.

    Postoperatively, I developed septic shock and went back to the

    operating room twice for further debridement and wound closure.Although I was only eleven at the time, the experience sparked my

    interest in surgery. Later in college, as I considered pursuing a

    career in medicine, I often thought of the doctor who had performed the

    surgeries and managed my care. These efforts allowed me to make a

    complete recovery. My family and I were able to return to our normal

    lives. I wanted to have this kind of impact on the lives of others, and

    that was my motivation for pursuing a career in medicine.

    Once I entered medical school and began considering different

    specialties, surgery seemed like a natural place to start. Not

    surprisingly, I was initially drawn to how surgeons treated the mostcritically ill patients, and the potential impact they could make on

    the lives of these patients and their families. During my clinical

    rotations, I was also impressed by how surgeons took ownership of

    patient care, from preoperative evaluation to performing surgery and

    managing postoperative care. Having trained as an engineer during my

    undergraduate studies, I was also drawn to the methodical, data-driven,

    and results-oriented approach of surgery. The strongest impression,

    however, was made after I reflected on the diversity of surgeries I had

    scrubbed during my clinical rotations: laparoscopic appendectomies,

    below-the-knee amputations, liver transplants, Whipple procedures.

    General surgery was the only residency program that would provide me

    with such a broad base of clinical training while allowing me to

    visualize pathology with my own eyes and correct it with my own hands.

    At this point, I already knew I wanted to work with critically ill

    patients – now I knew this was the way I wanted to do it.

    Throughout my clinical rotations and research, I found that my

    undergraduate training in chemical engineering has been one of my

    greatest strengths. It provided me with a strong foundation in

    leveraging scientific fundamentals and statistics to objectively inform

    decision-making. As with surgery, engineering was also team-based andresults-oriented with a focus on effective communication. From a

    research perspective, I was able to utilize this foundation throughout

    the research process, whether it was coordinating and training a team

    of my peers to collect data, drafting manuscripts and responding to

    reviewer feedback, or presenting findings at surgical conferences. I

    look forward to continuing to build on this foundation at the next

    level of training.

    Looking towards the future, my goal is to become a specialized surgeon-

    scientist at an academic center with an active role in clinical

    practice, research, and teaching. Ultimately, I hope to make the most

    of my career in surgery, whether it’s providing care to patients,

    improving clinical practice through research, or training the next

    generation of physicians. 

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    Department of Surgery

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