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This article is a response to some comments on one of the articles that I previously uploaded.I thought that that the person who made the comments deserved a proper answer as heraised an interesting point about several non-Muslim Western Scientists saying that the Koranor Quran is in perfect harmony with modern science.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUPYs0gElU

It was also suggested that the proper name for the Scriptures of Islam is Quran and notKoran.

Furthermore, my suggestion that the Koran/Quran assumes the Earth to be Flat is incorrect.

I will reply to these last two points first and then get on to the main issue of Western Scientistsand the Koran/Quran.

1. Koran or Quran?

I would contend that there is no 100% correct spelling for the Islamic Scriptures in Englishsince Mohammed and the early Muslims did not speak English or use the Latin alphabet. Allmodern English words such as Koran or Quran are approximations.

Koran is the traditional spelling in British English and Quran is a modern spelling inAmerican English. As a native English speaker in the UK, I speak and spell British Englishand not American English, although there is nothing wrong with either spelling. No disrespectis intended.

British Muslims and non-Muslims use both spellings, as can be seen from the two translationsbelow.

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On the left is the Dawoodtranslation and on the rightis the Pickthall translation.Pickthall was a Muslim.

Both use Koran rather than Quran althoughthere is nothing wrong with

either spelling.
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2. Does the Koran say that the Earth is Flat?

It is true that the Koran does not say, The Earth is Flat, but it does implythis in manyverses. For example look what Surah 36:37-38 says.

A token unto them is night. We strip it of the day, and lo! they are in darkness. And the

sun runneth on unto a resting-place for him. That is the measuring of the Mighty, theWise. (Pickthall)

Notice how the Koran speaks of Geocentric Cosmology and the Sun moving relative to astationary Earth. Furthermore, these verses say that at nighttime the Sun is resting. (Andtherefore not shining.)

Nowadays we know that night is caused by the Earths rotation and that the sun is shining24/7 somewhere on Earth. While it is night in the Middle East, it is daytime on the other sideof the World. The author of the Koran does not know this however. He thinks that the Sun is

just a little light in the Sky that switches off or rests at night and temporarily ceases to shineagain until dawn.

The Koran does not mention the Sun shining on the other side of the World when it is night inArabia because the books authordoes not know that the Earth has another side. In otherwords, the Korans author assumes that the Earth is Flat and that day and night occur at thesame time everywhere.

This interpretation is supported by a number of authenticated Hadith.

Al-BukhariVolume 4, Book 54, Number 421:

Narrated Abu Dhar:The Prophet asked me at sunset, "Do you know where the sun goes (at the time ofsunset)?" I replied, "Allah and His Apostle know better." He said, "It goes (i.e. travels)till it prostrates Itself underneath the Throne and takes the permission to rise again,and it is permitted and then (a time will come when) it will be about to prostrate itselfbut its prostration will not be accepted, and it will ask permission to go on its course butit will not be permitted, but it will be ordered to return whence it has come and so it willrise in the west. And that is the interpretation of the Statement of Allah: "And the sunruns its fixed course For a term (decreed). that is The Decree of (Allah) The Exalted inMight, The All-Knowing." (36.38)

Sahih Muslim Book 001, Number 0299:Abu Dharr reported: I entered the mosque and the Messenger of Allah (may peace beupon him) was sitting there. When the sun disappeared (from the sight) he said: O AbuDharr! Do you know where it goes? He (the narrator) said: Allah and His Apostle knowbest. He (the Holy Prophet) said. Verily it goes and begs permission, for prostration (toAllah) and the permission is granted to it. Once it would be said: Return to the placewhence you came, and then it would rise from its setting place. Then he, after therecitation of 'Abdullah recited it: And that is its appointed term.

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Sahih Muslim Book 001, Number 0300:Abu Dharr reported: I asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) the(implication of the) words of Allah, the Exalted: The sun glides to its appointed restingplace. He replied: Its appointed resting place is under the Throne.

All this adds up to a picture of the Cosmos looking something like this:

How can a book, which assumes a Universe looking like this be from God?

3. Western Scientists and the Koran

Whenever somebody suggests that the Koran is in conflict with modern science, one of themost common Muslim responses is to refer to non-Muslim Western Scientists who apparentlyaccept that the Koran is not only in harmony with modern science, but that it also anticipates itby centuries.

We are told that there are 1400-year-old references in the Koran to things only discovered inthe last 100 years or so by modern science. Mohammed, an illiterate man, we are told couldnot possibly have known about these statements in the Koran unless God or Allah had toldhim.

This, we are told, proves that the Koran is divinely inspired and that Islam is true.

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Furthermore, we are told that the fact that non-Muslim Scientists accept this is proof that suchclaims are true. In the following nine minute video clip from the early 1980s, several non-Muslim Western Scientists state openly that the Koran is in harmony with modern Science,especially Astronomy and Embryology. In fact, most of the film is about several eminent non-Muslim Embryologists praising the scientific accuracy of the Koran in the field of Embryology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUPYs0gElU

The Scientists involved are:

1. Professor Yoshide Kozai (Astronomer)2. Professor TVN Persaud (Embryologist)3. Professor William Hay (Oceanographer)4. Professor E Marshall Johnson (Embryologist)5. Professor Gerald Goeringer (Embryologist)6. Professor Keith Moore (Embryologist)7. Professor Joe Simpson (Embryologist)8. Professor Alfred Kroner (Astronomer)

Strangely, these Scientists have not converted to Islam. If they have studied the Koran andfound evidence of Scientific Miracles and Divine authorship, then you would expect them todraw the logical conclusion and accept that Islam is true. After all, in Islam, non-Muslims suchas these Scientists are destined for Hellfire and damnation after death if they do not becomeMuslims.

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Lo! Those who disbelieve, among the People of theScripture and the idolaters, will abide in fire of Hell.They are the worst of created beings.

(Surah 98:60 Pickthall)

Lo! Those who disbelieve Our revelations, We shallexpose them to the Fire. As often as their skins areconsumed We shall exchange them for fresh skinsthat they may taste the torment. Lo! Allah is everMighty, Wise.(Surah 4:56 Pickthall)

Left: The Prophet Mohammed on a guided tour of

Hell with the Angel Gabriel.

Here, sinners are being shown undergoing eternaltorture for not accepting Allah.

This is where all non-Muslims, including Scientistsare supposed to end up if they do not convert toIslam before death.
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Perhaps, these Western Scientists did not convert to Islam because they do not believe in it.Perhaps, they do not actually believe their own words?

In a 2002 interview in the Wall Street Journal, several of these Scientists have recanted theirearlier comments. (Professors Hay, Goeringer and Simpson) See the text of the article byfollowing this link.

http://www.weatheranswer.com/public/wstjournal%20012302.txt

1. Professor Yoshide Kozai (Astronomer)2. Professor TVN Persaud (Embryologist)3. Professor William Hay (Oceanographer)4. Professor E Marshall Johnson (Embryologist)5. Professor Gerald Goeringer (Embryologist)6. Professor Keith Moore (Embryologist)7. Professor Joe Simpson (Embryologist)8. Professor Alfred Kroner (Astronomer)

4. Big Bang in the Koran?

Have not those who disbelieve known that the Heavens and the Earth were of one piece,then We parted them, and we made every living thing of water? Will they not thenbelieve? (Surah 21:30 Pickthall)

This is supposed to be a reference to the Origin of the Universe in the Big Bang.

However, there is no reference to any such thing. The Surah just says that originally, Earthwas joined to Heaven or the Sky. This suggests that the Earth is at least as old as the rest ofthe Universe.

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In the article, Professors Hay,Goeringer and Simpson deny thatthey think that there are anyScientific Miracles in the Koran andconcede that their comments weredue to a mixture of bribery andtrickery by Muslim extremists.

Professor Moore declined tocomment or attempt to defend hisviews. Could it be that he is tooembarrassed to do so?
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In reality, the Universe is now known to be 13.7 billion years old and the Earth is known to be4.6 billion years old. Therefore the Earth did not exist until billions of years after the Big Bang.Therefore the Koran is wrong on this issue.

The myth of the separation of Heaven and Earth is common in many ancient cultures. This is

just an Arab version of the same story.

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5. Modern Embryology in the Koran?

Out of the eight scientists mentioned above, five were embryologists. These scientists madevague comments about the Koran being in harmony with modern Embryology.

1. Professor TVN Persaud (Embryologist)2. Professor E Marshall Johnson (Embryologist)3. Professor Gerald Goeringer (Embryologist)4. Professor Keith Moore (Embryologist)5. Professor Joe Simpson (Embryologist)

Considering that two of these scientists have recanted and that a third refuses to comment tothe media, we should be suspicious of the claims being made.

There is a very simple way to test the claims of modern Embryological information in theKoran. This is to look for direct references to the Sperm and Ovum in the Koran. When you dothis, you find them completely missing.

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Left: Sperm approaching an Ovum or Egg.

This was only discovered in modern times.

Nowhere in the Koran are there any directreferences to either Sperm or Ovum, as theauthor of the Koran did not know that theyexisted.

How can any book accurately describemodern Embryology without mentioningSperm and Ovum directly?


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In reality, the Embryological information in the Koran is no more advanced than that of theAncient Greeks. There is nothing miraculous about this.

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The Embryology of theKoran is not in harmony with

modern science, but it is inharmony with the incorrectideas of the Ancient Greeks.

This proves that the Koran isa human book and not havea vine origin.


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6. Conclusion

In conclusion, I contend that none of the criticisms of my views on the Koran can stand up toscrutiny.

1. The name of the Islamic Scriptures may be spelt as either Koran or Quran. Bothspellings are equally valid.2. Although the Koran does not explicitly state that the Earth is flat, it certainly implies that it

is flat.3. Western Scientists do not really believe that the Koran is in harmony with modern science.

We can be sure of this as the scientists mentioned have not converted to Islam andseveral have recanted their views.

4. The Big Bang is not mentioned in the Koran. In fact, the Koran incorrectly believes that theEarth is older than the rest of the Universe.

5. The Koran does not contain any modern Embryological knowledge. It does howevercontain many Ancient Greek Embryological ideas, which are now known to be wrong.

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