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on: November 04, 2007, 09:45:18

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MountainDon

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Does anyone know of a method to (relatively) easily remove bark fromtrees? Pine trees in particular. I have an abundance of Ponderosa Pines that

must be removed for one reason or another. A substantial amount is already

cut to 15 to 16"lengths as fire wood. There's more to go. Today as we added

several feet to the wood pile (if placed one piece deep by 4 ft. tall it would

be about 200 ft long. ) I once again thought of doing something along

the lines of building a cordwood shed, outhouse, building, building skirting,

whatever. The main thing that holds me back is the removal of the bark. ??

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Re: Removing Tree Bark

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glenn-k

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Let them set 6 months to a year to age - the bugs will loosen the outer bark

at the cambium layer and then leave after you pull the loose bark off of

them.

The wood will shrink away from the bark also. Best to lay a couple logs on

the ground and get the rest up off of it by stacking them on the sacrificial

ones. 8-)

A pressure washer will clean them up as clean as a baby's behind (a clean

one that is) -- I mean they will be white and shiny --- :-?

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A shingle remover will make a decent peeling spud. Some like a shovel with

the end flattened a bit - cut off - so it doesn't slide off. There is also an

attachment for the end of a chainsaw or a drawknife, but they seem too

much like work to me. Sassy likes to peel it off.

Well -- come to think of it-- not all babies are white--- but then ne ither is all

wood. Nevermind. :-/

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10:08:37 PM

MountainDon

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Pressure washer is out... uses more water than I have easy access to up

there....

Drawknife... I've watched one of my neighbors struggle... seems way too

much work...

Shingle remover? picture? :-?

We'll see how they age over the winter...

Thanks

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10:22:09 PM

glenn-k

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Boy - there are a million kinds of them-- this is the one I use. - Home Depot

has it I think

http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-

bin/SoftCart.exe/hand_tools/dasco_pro/shingle_ripper.htm?E+coastest

Here is a real one.

http://www.baileysonline.com/itemdetail.asp?item=15792&catID=

Chainsaw attachment.

http://aloghomestore.com/tools-chainsaw.shtml#log-wizard
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another spud

http://aloghomestore.com/tools-drawknife.shtml#bark-spud

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Reply #4 on: November 04, 2007,10:37:29 PM

glenn-k

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If its wet enough the bugs w ill work it - too wet it may rot - on the ground

fungus w ill try to deteriorate it and if it is too dry the bugs may leave it alone

and not help. Probably no perfect answer. I usually leave it in log form for

six months to a year - if contacting the ground that is usually where the

termites start -- they leave if it gets dry though.

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02:46:19 AM

Redoverfarm

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Don I have peeled locust with a drawknife. Pretty easy if the sap is up in the

wood. If it is left on then it will adhere to the wood. If you are planning on

using it to build with don't let the bugs get to it. After pee ling keep it off the

ground and covered.

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03:46:34 AM

desdawg

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Don, I have something similar to the log w izard but cost a lot less. It is

available on e-bay from Hudson Forest Equipment. I drilled my own bar and

have one that is just dedicated to that tool. I collect old chainsaws so this

was easy for me to do. Those bars are hard!

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-LOG-DEBARKER-CHAINSAW-CHAIN-SAW-SAWMILL-

MILL-

WOOD_W0QQitemZ130168615810QQihZ003QQcategoryZ85915QQssPageName

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05:25:48 AM

glenn-k

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Looks like you may get it cheaper on e-bay, but here is the Hud-son site for

other good stuff.

Thanks for the info desdawg -- I found another source for toys.

http://www.hud-son.com/index.html

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05:42:05 AM

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BTW, Don, please be careful that you don't bark up the wrong tree. :-?

...and on another note:

The bugs do go after pine more easily than cedar but if it is off the ground,

they do go after the cambium layer first in the first 6 months to year. Some

are more than likely already in the tree. You won't stop them.

At the point of ground contact, fungal growth w ill begin and it will send

tendrils out into the ground drawing moisture into the log from far away. At

this point deterioration of the wood will begin and termites will first appear

here. Even then, - they will not stay after the bark is pee led and the wood

is allowed to dry out.

The pine beetle larvae w ill do a nice job of decorating the log in the cambium

layer and at the same time peeling some of the bark loose if given enough

time. Again - they like it damp. When dry they are gone.

Here is one of my logs they decorated.

You will be surprised at the number of bugs, scorpions etc. that will be in the

cambium layer area in the first year. Most of them don't want the wood.

The scorpions are there to eat the termites. Mmmmm - tasty lunch.


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Last Edit: November 05, 2007, 05:44:48 AM by glenn-k

Again -- after it is dry most will be gone. After they are dry, powder post

beetles can be a problem -- they like dry wood. Treating with borates can

help keep them away. It leaves a nasty taste in their mouth and messes

with their tiny little bodies. If i recall correctly it does something to their

exoskeleton.

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Reply #9 on: November 05, 2007,07:24:31 AM

williet

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Don't they eat grubs like those? I think they taste like chestnuts

Maybe that's just in South America?

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08:10:03 AM

ScottA

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I never tried it but I heard if you beat the bark with a mallet it will loosen up

enough that you can pull it off with your hands.

Scott

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01:39:22 PM

Redoverfarm

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Desdawg that debarker looks sort of like a portable planner. Don when I did

locust it just seperated in large pieces. Of course they were fairly fresh and

hadn't had a chance to dry out.

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07:24:57 PM

Last Edit: November 05, 2007, 07:26:03 PM by glenn-k

glenn-k

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They say it's easy when the saps up to remove the bark -- Believe me -- it's

all relative.

Sassy could barely get the bark off when I gave her a wet log to peel.

OK -- so it was a giant log... and I didn't want to peel it. She kept sayingshe wanted to he lp... and she did.

OK -- its eas ier than when it dries badly and sticks tight to the log, but it's

not easy. :-/

...but it's easier when you get someone else to do it.

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Hmmm. Chuck it in a lathe and turn the bark off? :oDoesn't matter if it's

rounded some for a cordwood wall.

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08:40:05 PM

Last Edit: November 05, 2007, 08:42:26 PM by glenn-k

glenn-k

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It needs to age about a season anyway -- I think it will come off by nextseason. Too much shrinkage if it doesn't season about a year.

I forgot to mention that an adz comes in quite handy sometimes. I made

one from a small garden pick axe type thingy.

Watch your feet with the big adz.

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10:06:53 PM

Sassy

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Yes, I spent hours & days removing bark from logs :-/ even used a big

rotohammer with a flat attachment to get under the bark - that was before

we knew that the bark loosened up over time

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05:28:44 AM

glenn-k

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Greenhorns.

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06:20:44 PM

desdawg

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I see down trees that have been there for a while and the bark comes off

easy, just using my fingers.

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02:27:49 PM

MarkAndDebbie

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They also have a bacteria/fungus/or something that they add to inhibit bad

fungus and loosen the bark.

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Don
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Without going out to buy additional tools I even used a Mattock instead of

an adze to strip bark.

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08:26:46 PM

MountainDon

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Thanks all. I'm taking all this under consideration. I've got about a dozen orso 45 - 60 foot, 7 to 12 inch diameter, pines we pushed over earlier this

year, just sitting there off the ground.

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03:13:59 AM

MarkAndDebbie

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found the organism - Phlebiopsis gigantea. Not a forester or a biologist - so

that's as much as I know (or a bit more)

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