Propellers Move Boats,

Engines Just Turn Themby Tony Athens | posted in: Articles, Engines & Components 7

Let’s remove the “serious math”

…from of all the papers written on vessel movement and try to simplify the way a boat

really moves forward and how that is directly related to fuel burn and MPG, and then

explain it the way, seemingly, most do not understand.

I think the most misunderstood concept related to vessel propulsion is that the propeller

moves the boat and not the engine. The engine just rotates it and it does not really matter

what type of power you have doing it (maybe a hand crank mechanism with a bunch of

trained gorillas turning it while being fed banana soup?). In other words (this is Gospel

#1), PROPELLERS MOVE BOATS, ENGINES ONLY TURN THEM. Pretty simple

concept, yet so few seem to understand that…

With that said, understand this second concept about a propeller – (this is Gospel #2). It

takes a certain amount of HORSEPOWER to turn any given propeller under any given set

of circumstances… Think about that a tad. Under any given set of circumstances. This

means two distinct things:

1. The exact same propeller with one set of circumstances can require more or less

power to rotate the same propeller RPM than when operating under a different set

of circumstances.

2. The particular set of circumstances is controlled by all of the following variables

such as boat size, weight and shape, vessel trim, bottom condition, running gear

design and underwater drag, along with other external forces such as weather

(wind, waves & current).

So, if you have an engine that is producing, let’s say 200 HP burning 10 GPH while

traveling in a particular set of circumstances, then how well that boat actually performs

will depend on the “circumstances” the vessel is traveling in, thus loading the

PROPELLER accordingly under those given “circumstances.” But at least I can say this

with a high degree of confidence – your diesel engine will propel you with measurably

less fuel consumption than other types of internal combustion engines. And yes, within

all the diesel engines available today, there are some variables. But, in the big scheme of

things, it is less than 5% from the worst to the best. What that “less than 5%” really boils

down to is the overall thermal efficiency or BSFC of the particular diesel you own. That

really is a different subject which will be touched on later.

Now, let’s talk about CIRCUMSTANCES and what that means. Most of the following

must be understood from the “trust me” type of statement, as I am not going to go into

why I know this happens to be the way it is:

1. Total weight of the vessel. All else being equal, a heavier vessel will load (make it

harder to turn) the same propeller rotating at the same propeller RPM more than a

lighter vessel. What this means is, as a vessel gets heavier (more fuel, more

supplies, etc.) to rotate the same prop at the same RPM, the engine will work

harder, thus using more fuel to do it.

2. As the weight of the vessel increases, rotating the same prop at the same RPM

will yield less speed on the vessel. Think of that as “propeller slippage” for lack of

a better way to describe it.

3. So if you put #1 & #2 together, you can see that each adds to the other. More

power needed means more fuel burned yet the vessel is moving slower with the

same prop turning the same RPM. This is a set of circumstances and they are, as

I said, variable.

Tied directly to this is Gospel #3. It IS NOT how much HP you have available in your

engine, it’s how much HP you are asking for the engine to develop and TURN that

propeller that equates to a GPH number, and thus how fast that prop moves your vessel

under a particular set of circumstances.

Real World Example:

You have a new 50,000 lb 45 Ft “East Coaster” with a new QSM11 Cummins rated at

450HP at 2100 RPM and the vessel uses 10 GPH at 12 K’s at 1600 RPM & 800 RPM

propeller speed (2:1 gear ratio) – A tad better than 1:1. You are one Happy Camper

because you got all the performance you wanted and at 12 K’s, your engine is only

loading to 45%, just loafing along.

Now, to make my point, I go down to the vessel and reprogram the ECM for a 300HP at

1800 QSM Fuel Curve Rating. The owner takes the boat out the next day and brings it up

to 1800 RPM and looks at his gauges. “WOW” he says – All of a sudden he sees a 70+%

load on the engine yet the RPM, GPH & vessel speed is exactly the same. What happened?

Actually nothing that matters has happened at all. We are still extracting the EXACT

same amount of power from the engine – the “circumstances” for rotating that prop at

that prop RPM has not changed so the vessel is performing at that RPM exactly as before.

What has changed is, now we are asking the engine to deliver 70+ % of it’s

AVAILABLE POWER. So the load % on the engine in relation to that AVAILABLE

POWER is much higher. Does that mean we are adding more “wear & tear” to the engine

and the engine may not last as long running it at 70+% load versus well under 50% ??

Think about it (answer at the end).

SIMPLE thoughts on propellers, which is really what this is all about.

1. Less propeller (diameter, less blade area, or pitch) means less HP will be used to

turn the prop under any given circumstance.

2. More propeller (more diameter, more blade area, or pitch), more PROPELLER

RPM, or more vessel mass or resistance to movement means more HP is needed,

hence more fuel per hour is used to turn the propeller at any giver propeller RPM.

BSFC – FUEL Consumption & Horsepower Produced

Since I said “It takes a certain amount of HORSEPOWER to turn any given propeller

under any given set of circumstances” we have to discuss what that means, as I think that

is what it all comes down to. How much power do I need and how much fuel will I

burn… Or, the way I like to define it is, “HOW MUCH BANG DO YOU GET FOR THE

BUCK” (much easier for me and my fellow laymen to make sense of and understand)…

It seems that we have so many opinions of just how much a diesel engine burns, I thought

I’d drop in another version of how that really works. I put this together about 10 years

ago and just like now, nothing much has changed about all the perceptions out there as to

how much fuel a diesel engine uses. See if this makes any sense. And, of course, if you

can’t buy into this tutorial, you can always hit up Wikipedia, “BSFC,” and get their take

on it. I wrote this before Wiki was born, made a few edits to simplify it, and yes, as

always, there is always room for improvement.

There is a direct relationship between the horsepower produced or extracted from all

engines in relation to the fuel they burn. There are many different efficiency factors

involved and many different types of fuel, conversion factors, etc… But, it all comes

down to the conversion of heat energy to mechanical energy. And, it goes like this:

1. BSFC (brake specific fuel consumption) is an accepted and universally used

measurement for gauging power output in relation to fuel consumed. Typical units

used by Cummins, Caterpillar, Yanmar, Volvo, Isuzu, etc. would be lbs/hp/hr or

grams/kW/hr. A universally accepted weight for #2 diesel is 7.001 lbs per gallon

at 60 degrees F. Most manufacturers publish graphs showing BSFC at various

rpm/load levels, and that, along with some interpolation, should help us determine

that, generally, all diesels are their most fuel efficient (lowest BSFC) at peak

torque. Of course, in marine applications, you would normally NOT be able to

load the engine at peak torque except during hard acceleration. This is because a

vessel with the correct prop and reduction ratio (propped to reach or exceed rated

RPM under maximum loaded conditions) will prevent the aforementioned

condition from ever occurring.

2. All the diesels in marine service (and other types of service too) that I have come

in contact with over the past 40++ years fall into a BSFC range of .450 to .325

(lbs/bhp/hr.) With a little math, one can derive the “magic number” of 20

hp/gallon/hr (.355) as this is a BSFC that matches (a high average) the amount of

hp that is produced by a modern 4-stroke, direct injected, turbo

charged/aftercooled high speed diesel of modern design. At the far end of this

scale (lousy BSFC) you will find normally aspirated 2-stroke diesels (whose

design characteristics date back to pre-WWII (Detroits for instance) with many

being mechanically supercharged (although called NA’s) and a few NA, in-direct

injection, 4-stroke diesels.

You will also find at the best end of the spectrum modern engines typically

designed and used for the very heaviest duty applications. By coincidence, the

most efficient engines today used to produce rotational energy for marine

applications (and, I believe, the most efficient heat engines available for any off

the shelf application), are large (10,000+++ hp) diesel engines of the 2-stroke

cross head design that operate at low speed levels (40 to 300 rpm), but do burn

heavy fuel oil (higher BTU content per gallon of fuel). They are used mostly in

large container ships and oil tankers to move extremely large shipments across the

oceans. If looked at as a “cost per ton / per mile,” I don’t think even a railroad can

come close looking at it that way.

3. For comparison purposes, consider the following and give this some thought:

� A carbureted gasoline (60’s through 80+’s design) engine used in an automotive

application, or adapted for another application (your typical 454

Chevy/Mercruiser), will deliver LESS than 12 hp/gal/hr of gasoline consumed

under the best of conditions

� A two-stroke outboard engine (carbureted) may give you 6-8 hp/gal/hr.

� A two-stroke high output motocross bike (Honda CR 250, Suzuki RM 250, etc.)

might give you 4-5 hp/gal/hr if you are lucky.

� Your Cox .049 model airplane engine running on methanol/castor bean oil mix is

off my scale. I think more fuel comes out the exhaust than is used to make hp.

� The above relationships are for comparison and may help some readers to

understand why a diesel powered vessel goes farther on a gallon of fuel than a

gas powered vessel of similar size/design.

4. Typically BSFC is better (7-10% is common) with engines that are “turbo-ed” due

to the capture of some wasted exhaust energy that is then mechanically used to

compress air (oxygen) which is then fed to the engine. This reduces “pumping

losses” within the engine & allows an increase of air during combustion while

increasing the extraction of energy from the fuel thereby allowing more fuel to be

burned properly. The end result is, more hp output can be extracted from that

engine, if needed.. Cooling the compressed air between the turbo and the intake of

the engine is referred to as “aftercooling” or “inter-cooling” (I don’t want to argue

the semantics of the two words/terms).. This further allows more air to be put into

the engine because as the air is cooled, more oxygen is available due to the

density increase from cooling.. Again, more fuel can be burned efficiently to make

more hp, if needed. There are other benefits from aftercooling; it reduces thermo

loading/stressing in the combustion areas of the related components and promotes

less nitrogen oxide (NOx) to be produced during combustion. A popular

misconception regarding turbocharging is that it increases stresses in the engine.

To some extent it does raise the compression ratio, but for the same hp output

from the same basic engine, turbocharging, in itself, is not the culprit. It’s the fact

that more hp is available to use that MAY add to a shorter lifetime of the engine.

From my practical experience with modern engines like the B & C Series

Cummins and others specifically designed for turbocharging, I don’t feel this

point contributes to how long the engine lasts.. Rather, it’s the “nut behind the

wheel” concept that is much more the determining factor in the overall life of a

modern diesel engine today.

BSFC SUMMARY: There is a very definite relationship between the amount of fuel

burned and the amount of horsepower produced, or you are extracting, from your engine.

This is an important concept to understand, as discussions center around various

competitive diesel engines, fuel burn rates, performance and range. Regardless of that

you hear or the marketing literature may try and make you believe, from the best to the

worst, none of these engines share more than a 4-5% overall advantage when comparing

actual BSFC on the EPA certified E-3 power curves from one make of engine to the other

in the same general class. Anything that says different would not stand up to the actual

scrutiny of the datasheets on file with the EPA. In other words, all those wild claims are

just a bunch of Horse Manure type “dock talk.”

This was a question asked about 3 months ago

from a vessel operator that wanted “more”

From: “Average Joe Operator”

Subject: QSB Horsepower Increase

Tony,

Could you provide some information on increasing the horsepower on my QSB 5.9 from

330 to 380 hp? From what I have read the adjustments can all be done in the computer.

The engine is a 2007 serial number 46746xxx and the ECM code is 290100.03.

• Can I send in the computer for this modification or will a Cummins technician

need to come to the boat for this adjustment?

• What is the cost for such a change?

• What EGT is within range for cruising speeds of 2200-2300 rpm?

Thanks,

Joe

My first response:

To: “Average Joe Operator”

Subject: QSB Horsepower Increase

Joe,

May I ask what you expect to gain from the engine up-rate?

Post your current RPM’s, vessel speed, and GPH at 2000, 2400, 2600, 2800, and WOT

RPM.. BE VERY ACCURATE..

Also, where are you located?

Tony

Next came:

From: “Average Joe Operator”

Subject: QSB Horsepower Increase

The engine is in a 28ft sports fisherman that I use for diving and fishing on the west coast

of Paradise. I normally keep the rpm’s between 2000 and 2350. The prop is a DQX

20×24. According to the Cummins spec sheet the 330 makes 811 ft/lbs of torque @ 2000

@ 6.9 gph and 763 @ 2200 @ 8.9 gph. The 380 version makes 898 ft/lbs of torque @

2000 @ 6.6 gph and 841 @ 2200 @ 8.4 gph. My thoughts for the horsepower increase

would be to gain an increase in speed and with the gain of almost 80 ft/lbs of torque @

2200 which is where I run the boat most of the time, it should move the boat along more

efficiently while burning slightly less gals/hr. I only have accurate numbers for the

speeds/rpm’s listed below.

2000 @ 12.8kts @ 9.5 gph

2100 @ 14.3 kts @ 10.5 gph

2200 @ 15.3 kts @ 11.6 gph

2300 @ 17.0 kts @ 12.4 gph

2500 @ 20.3 kts @ 14.5 gph

2600 @ 22.0 kts @ 15.3 gph

Thanks for your feedback,

Joe

My 2nd response:

To: “Average Joe Operator”

Subject: QSB Horsepower Increase

Joe,

VERY FLAWED THINKING. You are already about 10% over-propped. I really doubt

you can even reach rated RPM, let alone what Cummins recommends – 2800 as the

absolute Minimum , with 50-65 RPM over that as best.

With the 380 rating you’d be at least 15% over propped at a minimum

Look at the attached graphs to see where you are now.. It should be obvious that you are

already asking more from the engine that Cummins recommends and you are on a short

road to a short lived engine from overloading it beyond what it is designed for.

If you want to increase the HP of the engine to 380, then you must re-prop so after the

up-rate / reprogramming of the ECM, the engine can reach not less than 3000 RPM (3050

best) when the vessel is loaded as you use it. Then, IMO you can safely cruise at 2600

RPM or less for extended periods and not over\stress the engine.

Please look at the propeller loading curves for the QSB. Yes, every boat loads differently,

but from “Joe’s” numbers, one can easily determine that he is overloading the engine.

Increasing to the 380 will not help as with the extended RPM range the engine needs even

less prop to reach full RPM.

I have not heard back from “Joe” and more than likely he was in denial that what I

was saying was more of an IMO or opinion rather than the way it is. Not to worry,

as I am very used to that…

Here is another or possibly better way to look at props and how they load an engine in a

boat (using the QSM example). Look at comparison fuel burn numbers from the various

graphs with some notes for the Cummins QSM11 that comes in many different ratings

(same EXACT base engine but with different software programming of the ECM and

with some hang-on component changes).

Again, you must understand that the amount “FUEL BURNED” is the amount of

“HORSEPOWER PRODUCED.” That is the COMMON DENOMINATOR, not

ENGINE RPM, and NOT the actual rating of the engine. And, what makes the engine

produce a given amount of horsepower is how the propeller loads the engine.

Now understand that any of these engine ratings can make 300+ HP and all can do it at

various RPM’s. But with the particular rating you choose, you are required to load, or

“prop” the engine so it reaches not less than the minimum rated RPM when the vessel is

loaded as you use it. If you follow that, then the engine will burn fuel (make HP) on a

curve very close to the prop / RPM curve for that rating as shown on the power curve or

“propeller curve” on the factory chart.

Fuel prop curve for QSM 355 thru 715 hp:

Notes: (All engines propped to exactly rated RPM and all in the same boat with no other

changes other than a re-rate or change-out of the engine). You must understand that the

GPH number in each column is the HP being extracted or produced by the engine under

the set of “circumstances” that the propeller is loading the engine to.

The 715 QSM would carry the least amount of propeller with any given boat and would

be the slowest at all RPM’S up to approximately 2400 RPM. In fact, the QSM 300HP

versus the QSM 715 HP version boat would travel at the same speeds at a steady state

1600RPM—see below. Both engines and both boats would be limited to about 215HP at

1600 RPM when “propped correctly.” At 1800 RPM the 350 could carry the most prop

and be the fastest boat at a steady-state RPM of 1800 of any engine/boat combo and still

stay within the recommended prop loading. How could that be, you ask? Just understand

what I have been saying. At 2100 Cruise, the 670 Rating would yield the fastest boat of

them all.

In closing…

The answer to the “East Coaster” example towards the beginning of the article is:

The engine is this case will not have any additional wear & tear taking place. All I did

was, when re-programming the engine, put an “electronic cork” under the throttle pedal,

so to say. In fact, with the software/electronic governor and engine set this way, the

engine would usually have a much longer life, as now the operator does not have the

option to run hard even with the “pedal to the metal” and the engine at 100% loading for

hours on end. In other words the “electronics” is limiting the HP of the engine to 15 GPH

or about 300HP max.

And I need to mention something else related to this discussion that chaps my hide way

too often. It’s often said typical dock talk) that you must run a diesel at 70-80% load for

max life/efficiency. I say total Horse Manure and the answer is right in this article. Just

look at the QSM11 for a perfect example.

Put the 300HP version of this engine on a dyno producing 215 HP @ 1600 RPM burning

10.6 GPH just like on the attached graph below, and leave it there “forever”. The 300HP

version will be running at approx 72% load. Next to it on another dyno, use the 715 HP

version and set it up to produce approx 215HP at the same RPM burning 10.6 GPH. The

715 HP version will be at about 30% load. Both engines would be on the “factory prop

curve” at the same RPM ( how could that be?) . Outside of the maintenance that each

engine would require when “running forever” , (and, I will take this to the bank) ———–

Both engines will last the same as to “wear & tear” and both would have no measureable

efficiency differences between them that matters. And, how long might that be? I’d say

not less than 30,000 hours or 300,000 gallons of fuel burned at that load & RPM with all

of the right maintenance done applicable to the engine.

Hopefully now this can make some sense and lessen the amount of questions that pop up

time and time again about fuel consumption, RPM, engine ratings, etc, etc, etc… The

concept is so simple if you just read and understand the basics of how a propeller loads

the engine in a boat. And to take it one more step using your own test – just cruise along

with your boat at 2300 RPM going 24 kt’s burning 15 GPH per engine. The weather is

calm and start paying out a small 12″ x 4″ diameter buoy on some 3/8″ diameter nylon.

By the time you have 100 ft out, look at your boat speed. Put out another 100ft… Look

again… Now put out 100 more ft… Same prop, but look at what has happened. RPM is

the same, but look at your speed now (down 5 kt’s) and if you could measure fuel

consumption, it’s probably up 20%. Really simple – external forces are making the prop

work harder while those PROPELLERS MOVE THE BOAT, and THE ENGINE IS

JUST TURNING THEM.

Engines, Move Boats, Propellers

7 Responses

Paul PrichardJanuary 16, 2016 | Reply

Thank you The info is understandable and there for useful.

RobertFebruary 6, 2016 | Reply

.

Dear Sir, I have a 1995 Albin 28 TE fishing boat that has a new last year recon

Cummins 6BT 220 in it. Max rpm is 2600 and I can reach this RPM easily. I think

I might be under propped as I can only get up to 15knts at this max rpm. I have

read that most of the Albin TE’s cruise between 15-20 knts. I’d like to know what

prop size you might recommend for my boat and engine. Hope I’ve given you

enough info. Thanks!

TonyFebruary 6, 2016 | Reply

What is your max RPM no-load?—–Are you making full mechanical

throttle?—–That engine makes the most power when you are propped to

make close to 2700 RPM——Can you check boost? —along w/ RPM, that

the only way to really see if you are making full power.

As to prop size, don’t know, but I would not mess with it untill you do the

rest.

Tony

RobertFebruary 8, 2016 | Reply

Hi Tony and thanks for the response. Theoretical max is 2600 and I

can make this easily with or without load (within reason). How do

I check boost? Thanks again for expertise and help.

Tony

February 9, 2016 | Reply

Using a 0-30PSI boost gauge

Tyler KuhnFebruary 14, 2016 | Reply

Would have never thought of this concept. Basically can tell if a boat is

over-proped (over worked) by fuel consumption at certain RPMS (depending on

the engine). VERY COOL! Props move boats!

Thanks.

Al JohnsonFebruary 25, 2016 | Reply

Tony, Just was referenced this site: Knowing that our boat is over wheeled I offer

this data with the questions: “What is the difference?”

27 foot displacement more than a SD hull. 85 hp Perkins at 2800 RPM.

Our wheel as stated, is over- 22Dx16P. Our max RPM 2000. Our reduction is 2:1

Our hull speed is rated at 6.7 knots. We turn the engine at 1400 RPM and obtain

hull speed average.

As there remains 600 RPM to max.

Am I mixing up data saying that we are using 3/4 of available RPM which meets

the supportable data that running a engine at 3/4 throttle equals best (torque)

usage?

Our fuel burn is avenging 1.4 gallons at this RPM.

The benefit is a quite salon noise level. What will be the down side? Our annual

usage is between 125-150 hours running.

Thank you- AMJ