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( ) administrator 2010-06-01

08:28

[MsgID #1]

What help should be offered?

( ) Kent 2010-06-01

18:13

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( ) Allen 2010-06-01

18:16

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( ) celiachan123 2010-06-01

20:25

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( ) retasm 2010-06-01

20:29

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( ) rubberchan 2010-06-01

21:07

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( ) kaibalau 2010-06-01

21:16

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( ) kaibalau 2010-06-01

21:17

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( ) ccnh 2010-06-01

21:24

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( ) dan1234567 2010-06-01

21:35

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( ) ccnh 2010-06-01

21:43

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( ) c9lulu 2010-06-01

22:27

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( ) retasm 2010-06-01

23:18

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( ) BCC 2010-06-01

23:48

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( ) everest 2010-06-01

23:53

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( ) dadd 2010-06-02

00:01

[MsgID #16] The answer is an absolute no.

Should not encourage people to invest!

Because investment could go up or down.

When there is an economic downturn, from past experience, many of these people will burn charcoal and commit suicide. I don't want this to happen again............................

( ) Kowloonmen 2010-06-02

00:16

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( ) sturdyhk 2010-06-02

08:25

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( ) kaibalau 2010-06-02

08:52

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( ) Throne 2010-06-02

09:16

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( ) Throne 2010-06-02

09:22

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( ) Lachesis 2010-06-02

09:46

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( ) irvingtin 2010-06-02

10:01

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( ) ezero 2010-06-02

10:09

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10:34

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( ) kenny2541 2010-06-02

10:36

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10:38

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( ) Throne 2010-06-02

10:46

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( ) comhlp 2010-06-02

10:57

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( ) retasm 2010-06-02

11:30

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( ) joe 2010-06-02

11:31

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( ) hungth1028 2010-06-02

11:36

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( ) chineseorchid 2010-06-02

11:37

[MsgID #33] The issue is very tricky. 1. People with realty that cannot be resold covering the expense and loss (negative equity) will be "frozen" in Hong Kong (physical area). That is loss of flexibility of living. They cannot take risks in their living, study and career. On the perspective of HKSAR government, it is a good job because the capable people staying in Hong kong contributing Hong Kong economic activities. 2.Some law makers proposing this bill aim at their living (the vote) on the expense of future common good. 3.Even government establishing a system of "better" quality flat for rent, this will also draw down the the market price of low and medium price flat. That is the asset of the flat owner decrease. 4.HKSAR government has two big expenses ( need to pay cash)- medical and health service and education. Once the realty price come down. Who will pay for the health insurance plan offered by the profit making insurance companies? This health-care insurance policy is also targeting at middle class taxpayer who also own flats. I view that health-care insurance policy is a matter of double taxation to taxpayers. If exemption of buying the health insurance is applied to those financial-unable people, the result is the taxpayers paying tax thrice. Where come the money if the asset price come down? 5...

( ) napasanta 2010-06-02

11:38

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( ) retasm 2010-06-02

11:40

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11:46

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( ) Duncan Pescod

2010-06-02

11:52

[MsgID #37] Hello everyone.

My name is Duncan Pescod. I am the Permanent Secretary for Transport and Housing (Housing). I will be logging on from time to time to follow the discussion on this and other topics. My intention is that although I will only be able to pop in occasionally, I will be getting daily feedback on discussions. I am very keen to hear from you on these issues so please do keep your comments coming.

Duncan Pescod

( ) mic168 2010-06-02

12:18

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( ) retasm 2010-06-02

12:23

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2010-06-02

12:55

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( ) mckong 2010-06-02

12:58

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( ) griffon 2010-06-02

13:13

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( ) jocoblee 2010-06-02

13:43

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( ) Throne 2010-06-02

13:52

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( ) Lachesis 2010-06-02

16:23

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2010-06-02

17:16

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( ) eric 2010-06-02

17:56

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( ) Loss 2010-06-02

20:18

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( ) elephant 2010-06-02

21:11

[MsgID #52] !!!!

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The banks shall be held responsible for the credit risk inherent in their daily operations, the government and Hong Kong citizens are not supposed to tailor a risk-free mechanism for the banks to earn their profits. There has been other statutory measures available for the banks to manage their risk profile, for instance, the mortgage insurance scheme for over 70% of mortgage relative to the flat value.

On the other hand, it is always the government's responsibility to ensure its citizens a decent and respectable livelihood, for example, the basic human needs for clothing, food, accomodation and transport. If citizens of a country/territory fail to afford a decent livelihood after exerting every effort to earn incomes, the government cannot evade the moral responsibility to assist them through measures such as subsidized housing schemes.

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( ) dan1234567 2010-06-02

21:39

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( ) helloha 2010-06-02

21:43

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21:50

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( ) alexpo 2010-06-02

22:27

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( ) orato 2010-06-02

22:30

[MsgID #57]

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The banks shall be held responsible for the credit risk inherent in their daily operations, the government and Hong Kong citizens are not supposed to tailor a risk-free mechanism for the banks to earn their profits. There has been other statutory measures available for the banks to manage their risk profile, for instance, the mortgage insurance scheme for over 70% of mortgage relative to the flat value.

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( ) Kowloon boy 2010-06-02

22:50

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22:53

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( ) dan1234567 2010-06-02

23:00

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23:25

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( ) dan1234567 2010-06-03

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( ) kingcole 2010-06-03

01:10

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( ) danielgogo 2010-06-03

02:15

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( ) Throne 2010-06-03

09:04

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( ) kingcole 2010-06-03

09:46

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( ) Lachesis 2010-06-03

09:52

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-03

09:53

[MsgID #70] ....

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( ) Hello Kitty 2010-06-03

11:12

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( ) wwwwwy 2010-06-03

11:57

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12:06

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( ) kcs 2010-06-03

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12:19

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12:21

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( ) Hello Kitty 2010-06-03

12:24

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12:30

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-03

12:59

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( ) sapling 2010-06-03

13:17

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( ) zxcv 2010-06-03

13:33

[MsgID #83] <quote:administrator :

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( ) vvv 2010-06-03

13:52

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( ) vvv 2010-06-03

13:53

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13:56

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13:58

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( ) JJ8JJ 2010-06-03

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14:03

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( ) She 2010-06-03

14:25

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( ) orato 2010-06-03

14:34

[MsgID #91] Thousands of these affordable units are available in the market. The following figures also shows that the prices have been very stable during the last few months without any increment. I only believe in statistics, any argument without any supporting figures would be considered as rubbish...

9 1 H 11 years old 06/01/10 $81 695 $1165 per sq. ft.

2 23 F 11 years old 15/12/09 $71 554 $1273 per sq. ft.

8 9 C 11 years old 11/03/10 $73 568 $1285 per sq. ft.

8 4 C 11years old 15/12/09 $73 568 $1282 per sq. ft.

8 28 E 11 years old 10/02/10 $70 505 $1386 per sq. ft.


Of course, living at the peak in Hong Kong island is better, I also want to live beside Lee xx Kei too, but face the reality la. Please!

Any medicine to cure laziness?

( ) Ricky 2010-06-03

14:35

[MsgID #92]

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( ) lionaxe 2010-06-03

14:37

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-03

14:39

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( ) Lachesis 2010-06-03

14:42

[MsgID #95] <quote:orato :Thousands of these affordable units are available in the market. The following figures

also shows that the prices have been very stable during the last few months without any increment. I only believe in statistics, any argument without any supporting figures would be considered as rubbish...

9 1 H 11 years old 06/01/10 $81 695 $1165 per sq. ft.

2 23 F 11 years old 15/12/09 $71 554 $1273 per sq. ft.

8 9 C 11 years old 11/03/10 $73 568 $1285 per sq. ft.

8 4 C 11years old 15/12/09 $73 568 $1282 per sq. ft.



Of course, living at the peak in Hong Kong island is better, I also want to live beside Lee xx Kei too, but


face the reality la. Please!

Any medicine to cure laziness?>

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( ) acowlup 2010-06-03

15:08

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( ) orato 2010-06-03

15:30

[MsgID #97] Dear Lachesis,

I of course know la. Many many are not buying, many many only want to sing bad Hong Kong. Many many only want Hong Kong economy dead so that they can laugh. For welfare recipients, bad economy usually means cheaper things so that they can improve their standard of living. Because even during economy downturn, rubbish politicans will come out again to protect their welfare monthly income la. From experience, if these politicans yell loud enough, the government will obey their instructions and do whatever they want ka.

Knew it already la.

But for the elderly and disabled, we must show our respect and I always support to offer them assistance ka.

( ) Lachesis 2010-06-03

15:42

[MsgID #98]

<quote:orato :Dear Lachesis,

I of course know la. Many many are not buying, many many only want to sing bad Hong Kong. Many many only want Hong Kong economy dead so that they can laugh. For welfare recipients, bad economy usually means cheaper things so that they can improve their standard of living. Because even during economy downturn, rubbish politicans will come out again to protect their welfare monthly income la. From experience, if these politicans yell loud enough, the government will obey their instructions and do whatever they want ka.

Knew it already la.

But for the elderly and disabled, we must show our respect and I always support to offer them assistance ka.>

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-03

15:45

[MsgID #99]

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P.S.

( ) Alex Chiu 2010-06-03

15:47

[MsgID #100] Government can only provide the public housing estate to those people who cannot afford to rent or buy private property or so-called low income group. Providing them a place to live and let them have time and chance to improve their economic circumstances of their family. I also lived at public housing estate when I was a boy. My father is a hawker and so I lived there till going out to work and save up money for buying my first property after working few years.

( ) 2010-06-03

16:15

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( ) sapling 2010-06-03

16:26

[MsgID #102] When the price was going up, those DEMON-CRAZY came out and used our taxes to 'BRIBE' voters for their own interests. We common citizens' hardly-earned money became others' PRIVATE PROPERTY, and DEMON-CRAZY took all the credit!

We should call ICAC !

<quote:Alex Chiu :Government can only provide the public housing estate to those people who

cannot afford to rent or buy private property or so-called low income group. Providing them a place to live and let them have time and chance to improve their economic circumstances of their family. I also lived at public housing estate when I was a boy. My father is a hawker and so I lived there till going out to work and save up money for buying my first property after working few years.>

( ) chanfc2004 2010-06-03

16:29

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16:42

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16:50

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16:56

[MsgID #106] Government should only forecast the demand of property and balanced by enough supply of land for developer. The property's value may follow the economy. And cit should decide their needs and whether they can afford to buy a home. Or, Government can lease property (a good lessor can provide a stable home) to those middle layer (which neither benefit from public housing nor afford to buy property).

( ) Throne 2010-06-03

17:02

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17:14

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20:02

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( ) tata 2010-06-03

20:31

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22:04

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23:34

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( ) bnhung 2010-06-03

23:54

[MsgID #117] NO HELP OF ANY KIND SHOULD BE OFFERED. It is unfair to the whole society.

( ) GalaxyS1000 2010-06-04

00:53

[MsgID #118] Bill Clinton .

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( ) jackychan 2010-06-04

01:56

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10:44

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2010-06-04

11:33

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11:56

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( ) ava 2010-06-04

11:59

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13:37

[MsgID #134] I extremely object to the proposals of Home Ownership Scheme and Loan Subsidies Policy. Tax deduction for mortgage loan interest is the best option with some form of incentive and with little interference to the property market.

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14:33

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14:34

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14:36

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14:47


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15:01

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2010-06-04

15:06

[MsgID #142]

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In chinese culture, we need to sponsor our parents...Sometimes we have to pay for our parent even against our will...

In my case, my parent bought a flat five years ago, and they used my name for applying mortgage. (They are too old for new loan)...Well ...I believe a lot of peoples like my case. Remember once you have a mortgage in hand, it is impossible to apply another flat with 95% loan....

( ) Lachesis 2010-06-04

15:11

[MsgID #143]

<quote:superman_chan :Remember once you have a mortgage in hand, it is impossible to apply

another flat with 95% loan....>

2 mortgage 50%

( ) superman_chan

2010-06-04

15:16

[MsgID #144] <quote: :

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OK for bank...but definitely rejected by MC ...

( ) stepcly 2010-06-04

15:34

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( ) Lachesis 2010-06-04

15:39

[MsgID #146]

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18:54

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( ) EASY 2010-06-04

21:43

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( ) 2010-06-04

23:36

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23:38

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( ) 123 2010-06-05

01:36

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01:49

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02:03

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08:15

[MsgID #155] I have the gut feeling that this government always keep changing its policy. I don't mean that policy should never be changed. But not morning this, evening that! OR Suddently this now, & suddently that tomorrow! Some rubbish politicans like dog trainers give order this side, policy makers immediately obey & respond that side.

1. We were told that there would not be any more HOS Housing and HOS Housing has completed its history mission. Now what?

2. We were told that there would not be any more government loan for home ownership because last time too many people failed to return the loan money and taxpayers lost millions!

Around SARS time there were plenty of opportunities to buy cheap properties (many were old homes of bankrupted/negative-asset families). But now what? These people chose not to buy when priced "low" and now say it is unfair. Should taxpayers be victims again for these wrongly decisions?

Why we have to answer "who should be helped? again and again, You tell me!

( ) orato 2010-06-05

11:12

[MsgID #156] What help should be offered?

Ans. No help should be offered.

( ) Ricky 2010-06-05

11:17

[MsgID #157]

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-05

11:26

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11:35

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11:41

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( ) yammy 2010-06-05

12:49

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( ) yammy 2010-06-05

12:54

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13:17

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( ) sapling 2010-06-05

13:41

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( ) blibala999 2010-06-05

21:26

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21:56

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22:22

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( ) orato 2010-06-05

22:23

[MsgID #168] <quote:PRIORITY :I extremely object to the proposals of Home Ownership Scheme and Loan

Subsidies Policy. Tax deduction for mortgage loan interest is the best option with some form of incentive and with little interference to the property market.>


( ) orato 2010-06-05

22:25

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22:26

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( ) blibala999 2010-06-05

22:30

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( ) blibala999 2010-06-05

22:56

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( ) helloha 2010-06-05

23:13

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( ) blibala999 2010-06-05

23:38

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00:51

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01:31

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13:35

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( ) fan 2010-06-06

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21:27

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( ) blibala999 2010-06-06

21:36

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( ) Throne 2010-06-06

23:40

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( ) rubberchan 2010-06-07

01:35

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09:56

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13:07

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( ) terry 2010-06-07

13:13

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13:50

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-07

14:15

[MsgID #187]

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( ) mrq1978 2010-06-07

17:29

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( ) terry 2010-06-07

21:41

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( ) ss3661 2010-06-08

01:37

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( ) Lachesis 2010-06-08

11:13

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-08

12:21

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( ) Alex Chiu 2010-06-08

17:54

[MsgID #193] As home ownership should NOT be subsidised, no help is offered to anybody. It will make people lazy and thinking all the time need to have hard working but to find way to go shortcut at the expense of others. As government if we really need to show our support,care or concern, the help offer can only be positive and so we may consider give SPECIAL tax allowance for people who buy property at first time to lessen their loan repayment burden a little bit at the begin. They have to know that buying property is their own decision but not the matter of government. The duty of one responisble government is to provide enough supply of land , update role and regulation of playing from time to time to assure the free property market running without intervention. Govenment direct involvement in the property market is NOT recommended and at least as little as possible.

( ) 2010-06-08

17:57

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18:28

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( ) ACKH 2010-06-08

20:26

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21:19

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23:30

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00:41

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12:12

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12:50

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( ) eddie wong 2010-06-09

18:27

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18:39

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Why high? Because people similiar to case did not return the loan money!

( ) 70 2010-06-09

20:16

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20:22

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21:13

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21:26

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21:33

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02:47

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( ) Lachesis 2010-06-10

02:54

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11:24

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( ) Nelson 2010-06-10

15:05

[MsgID #213]

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( ) orato 2010-06-10

17:11

[MsgID #214] We think we should let the market do its job and not lose our focus and manually increase. It will be very dangerous.

In 1997 had been sold at $5000-$6000 per sq. ft.. You may say at this price those buyers

were not so smart. But now, under $2000 per sq. ft units at are available. We think this price

is very reasonable because building material, labour cost, etc. will be over $1500 per sq. ft. to build already.

Do not use $70000 per sq. ft. luxury units for comparison, it is very misleading, we ordinary people will not buy that type of apartment and those very rich people do not need you people to fight for them.

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( ) dan 2010-06-10

17:51

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( ) F86 2010-06-10

21:21

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( ) wasper 2010-06-11

10:27

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( ) Alex Chiu 2010-06-11

10:53

[MsgID #218]

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( ) orato 2010-06-11

11:17

[MsgID #219]

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would not save money. Since is only postponed, this is actually a trap to the . Your

suggestion will do more harm than good!

Your suggestion is even worse. People waiting for the and ready to move in,

and then suddently you said these units can be sold and will be sold. Will it be fair to those

tenants? Do you want the government to be a developer to make money or help people or what?

( ) Ricky 2010-06-11

13:08

[MsgID #220] (01/01/2009)

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( ) 2010-06-11

14:08

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-11

14:35

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-11

14:35

[MsgID #223]

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-11

15:10

[MsgID #224] http://forum.c21.hk/topic.php?id=1195& " 08 , , 5-6.5 ,

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-11

15:32

[MsgID #225] http://www.manyw.com/article/misc/artic ... d=6&page=1 2009 6 18

( $1700-$1800 ) X X

( 41-44%)=

1: 505 --------- 1700x505x42.5%=$364862

2: 693 ---------- 1700x693x42.5%=$500692.5

2 $1,763,000

( ) 2010-06-11

16:08

[MsgID #226] http://news.gov.hk/tc/category/healthan ... c05004.htm (2006 1 24 )

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( ) hkyau3 2010-06-11

16:26

[MsgID #227] Low-interest loan will be possible to help.

If people have no cost in being subsidized, there will be endless of people trying to apply, but in fact, they have no capacity to afford to buy houses in the market.

Besides, the people apply the low-interest loan can only buy HOS flats or Sandwish Class flats to prevent them making profit in the market.

This means can also prevent rising up the private houses in the market because of the infill of the large amount of subsidization from the government. This is unfair for the middle-class or the group of people who are in the margin to buy private houses and unqualified to apply the sudsidization.

In short, the subsidization is for the lower-middle class, it is not for them to make profit or money. The main point of this subsidization is for them to buy a house to live. If they want to earn money, they should go to the private houses' market and use their own money instead.

( ) Alex Chiu 2010-06-11

16:29

[MsgID #228] No, will increase demand and owners will raise their prices. As a

result, would not save money. Since is only postponed, this is actually a trap to the

. Your suggestion will do more harm than good!

Your suggestion is even worse. People waiting for the and ready to move in,

and then suddently you said these units can be sold and will be sold. Will it be fair to those

tenants? Do you want the government to be a developer to make money or help people or what?[/quote]

wants government to rebuild new and I disgree with that totally but I think if they claim

all the time that they are really unable to afford to buy private property, government can let them to buy with like before. It is the study policy of the government which can help to

mobilize the second market.

I definitely disagree with the government to rebuild . Just in case we have no way but to accept

government to build HOS housing and sell to those people whose income is over to apply low cost public estate but claimed that they are unable to afford buying private property. Their choice will only be

because it is more flexible for government to changing the policy on selling or renting the

units in accordance with the market condition at that time and also governemnt is no need to spend too much time and money on new HOS housing development.If is just want to buy a home for

their family, it is the no matter for them to live together in the same building with tenants and I

can't see what unfair to the tenants under this policy. It also won't affect the private property

market because government is not the one of the developers to provide HOS housing to the property market.

( ) Ricky 2010-06-11

16:29

[MsgID #229]

<quote:

:http://news.gov.hk/tc/category/healthandcommunity/060124/html/060124tc05004.htm

(2006 1 24 )

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( ) orato 2010-06-11

16:53

[MsgID #230] ok ok let me guess the meaning of your writing and give you the following reply:

(1) If , then the price of before and after the policy announcemnt will

not be the same, at the moment the government announces , the next moment I will

increase the price of my immediately, the will end up paying more if he/she still

want to buy.

(2) Living together is the problem, the problem is potential tenents lose the opportunity to

move it because their units will be sold as you suggested. If the potential tenent is over 80

years old or older, how long can you ask him or her to wait?

<quote:Alex Chiu : wants government to rebuild new and I disgree with that totally but

I think if they claim all the time that they are really unable to afford to buy private property, government can let them to buy with like before. It is the study policy of the government

which can help to mobilize the second market.

I definitely disagree with the government to rebuild . Just in case we have no way but to accept

government to build HOS housing and sell to those people whose income is over to apply low cost public estate but claimed that they are unable to afford buying private property. Their choice will only be

because it is more flexible for government to changing the policy on selling or renting the

units in accordance with the market condition at that time and also governemnt is no need to spend too much time and money on new HOS housing development.If is just want to buy a home for

their family, it is the no matter for them to live together in the same building with tenants and I

can't see what unfair to the tenants under this policy. It also won't affect the private property

market because government is not the one of the developers to provide HOS housing to the property market.>

( ) 2010-06-11

16:56

[MsgID #231] <quote:Ricky :http://forum.c21.hk/topic.php?id=1195&

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( ) orato 2010-06-11

16:57

[MsgID #232] Amentment: Living together is notthe problem...............

( ) Ricky 2010-06-11

17:24

[MsgID #233] <quote: :http://forum.c21.hk/topic.php?id=1195&

" 08 , , 5-6.5 ,

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( ) s09020162 2010-06-11

19:49

[MsgID #234] TO "ACKH"]

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( ) F86 2010-06-12

01:52

[MsgID #235]

( ) orato 2010-06-12

02:22

[MsgID #236] old tung said no less than 85000 per year

some shoe shining boys outperformed by achieving more than 120000 in a year to please him

the rest is history...

...burning charcoal but not for barbecue

...playing bungy jump without the rubber string

( ) esmond 2010-06-12

02:49

[MsgID #237] !!


( ) helloha 2010-06-12

10:18

[MsgID #238] <quote:esmond : !!>

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( ) helloha 2010-06-12

10:33

[MsgID #239] :

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( ) yammy 2010-06-12

11:43

[MsgID #240]

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( ) Alex Chiu 2010-06-12

12:03

[MsgID #241] [quote="orato"]ok ok let me guess the meaning of your writing and give you the following reply:

(1) If , then the price of before and after the policy announcemnt will

not be the same, at the moment the government announces , the next moment I will

increase the price of my immediately, the will end up paying more if he/she still

want to buy.

(2) Living together is the problem, the problem is potential tenents lose the opportunity to

move it because their units will be sold as you suggested. If the potential tenent is over 80

years old or older, how long can you ask him or her to wait?

(1).I think you may misunderstand my meaning of for . The they

bought today should have the same restriction with the pervious owner that they can sell the unit in future to the or pay the to the govenment if they want to sell or rent it out to the free

market. I agree with you that the may increase their price if the policy is confirmed to launch

out but I do believe the market force can reach a price level which is much more meaningful to the purchaser or buyer than today. You know the market of is like a dead pool and the annual sell

and purchase figures is very low in accordance with the total number of HOS housing. Someone fears that the may go down instead of going up becasue we don't know how many people are

interested to sell their . At the end, no matter the price going up or down, it eventually depends

on the overall enconomy and also the vaulation report from bank. (2). As we all know that government resource is limited, we cannot look after every aspects without effect to the others. What we can do is to balance the effect and try to find out the best resolution which can help all as far as possible. My suggestion has an effect to prolong the waiting time for public housing estate but you may know that the land resource for public housing estate and HOS housing are coming from the same source. If we build HOS housing and then we will build less public housing estate and so you can discover why the waiting time has been shorten to 3 years after the HOS housing has been stopped to build. The best thing of my suggestion is to give government flexiblity to cope with market condition change. Normally we plan to build HOS housing when the market condition is hot but after the project is finished, the market is down and no one buy the HOS housing and govenment keeps a lot of stock in hand. It is really waste of resource.

( ) orato 2010-06-12

12:06

[MsgID #242]

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>

In the recent court case that a "fun shui lo" was found made billions but did not pay any tax.

How many of these people living in right now? Using public resources with hidden income?

May not be billionaire but millionaire...

Driving nice cars

The government should find out!

( ) elephant 2010-06-12

21:11

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23:22

[MsgID #244]

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( ) F86 2010-06-13

03:47

[MsgID #245] 150 180

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( ) antilaziness 2010-06-13

04:51

[MsgID #247] don't know why second mortage financial crisis was such a big lesson and incapable people still did not learn the lesson, they do not know the fact that because they are incapable so they have to purchase mortgage insurance to protect themselves and the financial system, in their dreams, the government has become the santa claus


10:20

[MsgID #248]

<quote:antilaziness :don't know why second mortage financial crisis was such a big lesson and

incapable people still did not learn the lesson, they do not know the fact that because they are incapable so they have to purchase mortgage insurance to protect themselves and the financial system, in their dreams, the government has become the santa claus>

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11:47

[MsgID #249] was terminated in 2004, there were ~3700 bad debts, to me, mortgage or

no mortgage, 1st mortgage or 2nd mortgage, bankrupty or no bankrupty, happen in hongkong or usa? it is the same, do not ask me who had paid the multi billions dollars bill last time, thanks.

( ) Lachesis 2010-06-13

11:54

[MsgID #250]

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[MsgID #251]

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( ) Ms_wong123 2010-06-13

16:13

[MsgID #252]

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17:11

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( ) dadd 2010-06-14

01:00

[MsgID #260]

<quote:Ms_wong123 : 2

10 20

>

You said "... 2 10 20 ..." Is this a

joke? Incapable (even the basic) and then suddently capable?

How about if interest rate going back normal again? It will not stay low forever.

God bless the financial institution, if any, who would lend money to these people.

( ) cocoduck 2010-06-14

04:19

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09:03

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( ) cwklee 2010-06-15

00:07

[MsgID #265] + ( 4

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00:42

[MsgID #266]

<quote:cwklee : + ( 4

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( ) wasper 2010-06-15

09:40

[MsgID #267]


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( ) cwklee 2010-06-15

13:14

[MsgID #268]

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( ) 2010-06-15

13:16

[MsgID #269]


)

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( ) cwklee 2010-06-15

13:29

[MsgID #270]

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( ) wasper 2010-06-15 [MsgID #271]


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( ) bigshrimp 2010-06-15

13:42

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( ) cwklee 2010-06-15

14:02

[MsgID #273]

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( ) orato 2010-06-15

14:29

[MsgID #274] " "

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No need to say any more!

( ) ACKH 2010-06-15

14:31

[MsgID #275] To s09020162:

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( ) 70 2010-06-15

14:36

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( ) orato 2010-06-15

15:23

[MsgID #278] <quote:bangicheng ::!: , 08 ,

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You are right!.

in 1997, $5000-$6000 per square foot, in 2010 $2000 per square foot

But some rubbish politicans and empty pocket landlord-want-to-be are now finding excuses to pick the pockets of the general public.


Of course we stand firm la.

( ) fireball 2010-06-15

15:50

[MsgID #279]

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( ) st3489 2010-06-16

23:03

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( ) Throne 2010-06-16

23:45

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( ) fireball 2010-06-17

00:28

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12:24

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( ) graysky2010 2010-06-17

12:48

[MsgID #284]

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( ) wing lau 2010-06-17

12:54

[MsgID #285] 5~6

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( ) cwklee 2010-06-17

13:55

[MsgID #287] 2008 73.98( 2008 3 2 /9 ), 2009

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( ) s09020162 2010-06-17

13:58

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-17

14:21

[MsgID #289]

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( ) s09020162 2010-06-17

14:30

[MsgID #290] <quote:wing lau : 5~6

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( ) fireball 2010-06-17

14:32

[MsgID #291] <quote:wing lau : 5~6

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( ) chan 2010-06-17

17:55

[MsgID #292]

<quote:wing lau : 5~6

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( ) alileekk 2010-06-17

19:46

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( ) helloha 2010-06-17

21:31

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( ) terry 2010-06-17

22:55

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( ) 2010-06-17

23:13

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( ) cwklee 2010-06-18

00:17

[MsgID #297] (#259)

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);

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( ) wasper 2010-06-18

09:48

[MsgID #298] (#259)

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( ) ORZ 2010-06-18

10:51

[MsgID #299]



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( ) fireball 2010-06-18

10:59

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( ) graysky2010 2010-06-18

12:21

[MsgID #301] http://www.uwants.com/viewthread.php?tid=9298704


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( ) ORZ 2010-06-18

15:32

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( ) fireball 2010-06-18

15:58

[MsgID #305]

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( ) fireball 2010-06-18

16:06

[MsgID #306]

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( ) cwklee 2010-06-19

07:21

[MsgID #308]

50 ( 64% --

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( ) wasper 2010-06-19

09:45

[MsgID #309]

1, 40,000 disposal income ?

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[quote="cwklee"]

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10:16

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( ) anguskwok 2010-06-19

19:48

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The buyer say: "Father can buy one, mother can buy one, father-in-law can buy one, mother-in-law can buy one, I (husband) can buy one, wife can buy one, daughter can buy one, son no. 1 can buy one, son no. 2 can buy one for me ha ha ha rubbish.................."


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( ) anguskwok 2010-06-20

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( ) anguskwok 2010-06-20

02:14

[MsgID #315]

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mother-in-law can buy one, I (husband) can buy one, wife can buy one, daughter can buy one, son no. 1 can buy one, son no. 2 can buy one for me ha ha ha rubbish..................">

Yes, you're right. Those policies of Chinese government couldn't stop your listed case; but, the risks and costs for those speculators would be higher.

( ) ckkl 2010-06-20

19:22

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( ) linlee 2010-06-22

08:33

[MsgID #318] I disagree Subsidizing Home Ownership if government take the following actions to protect interests of citizens. 1. Increase land supply like the Singapore government does. 2. Increase stamp duty to those speculators in the following way. a). Increase stamp duty to 10% of property price for personal buy and sell properties more than 2 times in a year. b). Increase stamp duty to 15% of property price for personal buy and sell properties more than 5 times in a year. c). Increase stamp duty to 25% of property price for personal buy and sell properties more than 10 times in a year. 3. All properties, no matter new or 2nd hands, must be quoted using real usable area instead of construction area. 4. Build more public housing estates, rent or sell them to HK citizens at big discount rates. If the properties were sold, the profits return to government.

( ) jacque 2010-06-22

09:59

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10:21

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( ) linlee 2010-06-22

11:38

[MsgID #322] Land supply is still not enough. It is unfair to those poor people who are not able to buy their own home and need to pay high rent. Buying/Selling properties are investment behaviour. It may win or lose. Government should not intervene the market by controlling and limiting land supply and says that it is to protect their interests.

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Who is then going to protect interests of those poor people who cannot afford to buy their own home? Poor people have no choice. They have to pay unreasonably high rent due to government's wrong policy.

Government should take the following actions to protect interests of citizens. 1. Increase MORE land supply like the Singapore government does. 2. Increase stamp duty to those speculators in the following way. a). Increase stamp duty to 10% of property price for personal buy and sell properties more than 2 times in a year. b). Increase stamp duty to 15% of property price for personal buy and sell properties more than 5 times in a year. c). Increase stamp duty to 25% of property price for personal buy and sell properties more than 10 times in a year. 3. All properties, no matter new or 2nd hands, must be quoted using real usable area instead of construction area. Forbidden the use of contruction area in quotation. 4. Build more public housing estates, rent or sell them to HK citizens at big discount rates. If the properties were sold, the profits return to government.

( ) Ricky 2010-06-22

11:49

[MsgID #323] <quote:linlee :Land supply is still not enough. It is unfair to those poor people who are not able to buy

their own home and need to pay high rent. Buying/Selling properties are investment behaviour. It may win or lose. Government should not intervene the market by controlling and limiting land supply and says that it is to protect their interests. Who is then going to protect interests of those poor people who cannot afford to buy their own home? Poor people have no choice. They have to pay unreasonably high rent due to government's wrong policy.

Government should take the following actions to protect interests of citizens. 1. Increase MORE land supply like the Singapore government does. 2. Increase stamp duty to those speculators in the following way. a). Increase stamp duty to 10% of property price for personal buy and sell properties more than 2 times in a year. b). Increase stamp duty to 15% of property price for personal buy and sell properties more than 5 times in a year. c). Increase stamp duty to 25% of property price for personal buy and sell properties more than 10 times in a year. 3. All properties, no matter new or 2nd hands, must be quoted using real usable area instead of construction area. Forbidden the use of contruction area in quotation. 4. Build more public housing estates, rent or sell them to HK citizens at big discount rates. If the properties were sold, the profits return to government.>

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( ) linlee 2010-06-22

12:07

[MsgID #324] It will work because most individuals will not speculate anymore. The unusual extra demand will be curbed.

( ) cwklee 2010-06-22

12:19

[MsgID #325]

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( ) orato 2010-06-22

19:25

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If your logic is right, then mainlander can do the same to Hong Kong people, not allow to go to Shenzhen for shopping, not allow to eat in restaurants in China, not allow to do anything that will increase demand to boost price in China.

$2000 per square foot apartments are available and we do not know what you are worrying about.


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( ) RCMY 2010-06-22

21:24

[MsgID #329]

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( ) orato 2010-06-22

22:00

[MsgID #331] We strongly believe that if luxury apartments are not enough, then more luxury apartments should be built.

To build cheap units to tackle the insufficient luxury apartments problem is absolutely useless and brainless.

If university spaces are not enough, we should build more universities to create more spaces for university students to solve the problem, right?

If univeristy spaces are not enough, we would not build more primary schools or kindergarten to solve the problem, right?

Same case here!!!

Think before you make any suggestion here!

Don't make me laugh, ok?!

( ) helloha 2010-06-22

22:30

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( ) fireball 2010-06-23

01:31

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( ) orato 2010-06-23

02:03

[MsgID #334] Forget it, some people want to sing bad Hong Kong so that they can buy low. Some just want to sing bad, absolutely no such word "buying" in their mind. In 2003, property price was only 25% of 1997 price. Did they buy?

( ) Lachesis 2010-06-23

10:51

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11:02

[MsgID #336]

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( ) linlee 2010-06-23

11:33

[MsgID #337] 30% % 52% 73%

http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_47841af70100099y.html


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[MsgID #338]

<quote:linlee : 30% % 52% 73%

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how is professor cheung? there is hearsay that us police is looking for him for coffee


12:46

[MsgID #339] quite many funny posts here as they are telling the government how to move money from another person pocket to his own pocket so they can start their "home" investment

( ) 2010-06-23

13:00

[MsgID #340] <quote:RCMY : >

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13:15

[MsgID #341] ha ha if they do not create a very sad story how can they gain the tears from the government?

( ) Ricky 2010-06-23

13:15

[MsgID #342] 2002-01-24 Appledaily

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-23

13:25

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-23

15:25

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-23

15:38

[MsgID #345]

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-23

17:28

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17:46

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18:04

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-23

18:08

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18:33

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18:44

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( ) unclesam 2010-06-23

18:53

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19:07

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19:53

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20:52

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21:22

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21:42

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22:12

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22:32

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22:42

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22:48

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23:12

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23:37

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( ) Victor 2010-06-24

11:18

[MsgID #379]

( ) yhc 2010-06-24

12:16

[MsgID #380] Pay back the land cost to the house buyers

( ) s09020162 2010-06-24

12:22

[MsgID #381]

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( ) viviwawa79 2010-06-24

15:02

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15:03

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-25

13:56

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14:52

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16:21

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16:49

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22:00

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23:19

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( ) 2010-06-26

10:33

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( ) orato 2010-06-26

10:50

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( ) rewilky 2010-06-26

11:16

[MsgID #395] Assistance, in the terms of a short term loan plus interest.....for the initial down payment of a property should be offered to those who:

1. People who want to buy a home. They should be able to borrow money from the government (not be given) i.e. those whom can sufficiently afford a mortgage but need to save for years to find a 1st payment 2. Interest should be applied to any subsidy repayment 3. No speculators should be allowed to qualify to prevent the buy to rent or as investment through market speculation 4. Properties bought with a subsidy should not be able to be sold until the government has recouped their money

Any subsidy should not be a gift of cash to people who are in it for profit or aim to buy to rent. It should be the likes of genuine families who are securely employed but struggle with finding that first payment. Most people I know whom have managed to buy properties have rich parents or other family members who can aid them....I sadly do not have this luxury. At present I have one option....to save for the next year+ for an initial 5% down payment on a 95% mortgage from the bank. With a subsidized loan from the government I could have a further option of a 30% down payment with a 75% mortgage, whilst the government would earn more tax from the purchase of property and any interest on the incurred loan. Is this not better than the banks becoming richer????


12:17

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payment of a property should be offered to those who:

1. People who want to buy a home. They should be able to borrow money from the government (not be given) i.e. those whom can sufficiently afford a mortgage but need to save for years to find a 1st payment 2. Interest should be applied to any subsidy repayment 3. No speculators should be allowed to qualify to prevent the buy to rent or as investment through market speculation 4. Properties bought with a subsidy should not be able to be sold until the government has recouped their money

Any subsidy should not be a gift of cash to people who are in it for profit or aim to buy to rent. It should be the likes of genuine families who are securely employed but struggle with finding that first payment. Most people I know whom have managed to buy properties have rich parents or other family members who can aid them....I sadly do not have this luxury. At present I have one option....to save for the next year+ for an initial 5% down payment on a 95% mortgage from the bank. With a subsidized loan from the government I could have a further option of a 30% down payment with a 75% mortgage, whilst the government would earn more tax from the purchase of property and any interest on the incurred loan. Is this not better than the banks becoming richer????>

( ) Ricky 2010-06-26

12:37

[MsgID #397]

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( ) wai886 2010-06-27

19:17

[MsgID #400] and

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( ) orato 2010-06-27

19:22

[MsgID #401] & had been thrown away to the rubbish bin many years ago. The

government must not feed its citizens from the rubbish bin.


19:36

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( ) wai886 2010-06-27

20:08

[MsgID #403] bangicheng : , 395

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where is the ??

1 6 C 12 11/06/10 $275 775 $3548 -

2 33 D 12 10/06/10 $280 788 $3553 -

1 43 B 12 08/06/10 $222 622 $3569 -

and , ......

30 , 70?

( ) wai886 2010-06-27

20:15

[MsgID #404]

<quote:wai886 :bangicheng : , 395

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where is the ??

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2 33 D 12 10/06/10 $280 788 $3553 -

1 43 B 12 08/06/10 $222 622 $3569 -

and , ......

30 , 70?>

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22:15

[MsgID #405] ,568 , 194

3 G 12 02/06/10 $250 775 $3226 -

1 H 12 16/03/10 $232 742 $3127 -

3 A 12 25/02/10 $194 568 $3412 -


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where is the ??

1 6 C 12 11/06/10 $275 775 $3548 -

2 33 D 12 10/06/10 $280 788 $3553 -

1 43 B 12 08/06/10 $222 622 $3569 -

and , ......

30 , 70?>

( ) wai886 2010-06-27

23:15

[MsgID #406] 2 ,3 ??

lor , ...~4000 *568 > 220

$ 298 755 (3 ) $ 3,947

3 G 12 02/06/10 $250 775 $3226 -

1 H 12 16/03/10 $232 742 $3127 -

3 A 12 25/02/10 $194 568 $3412 -

( ) orato 2010-06-27

23:34

[MsgID #407] <quote:wai886 : 2 ,3 ??

lor , ...~4000 *568 > 220

$ 298 755 (3 ) $ 3,947

3 G 12 02/06/10 $250 775 $3226 -

1 H 12 16/03/10 $232 742 $3127 -

3 A 12 25/02/10 $194 568 $3412 ->

Real data here we don't believe and believe you?

http://hk.centanet.com/icms/template.aspx?series=1

( ) Ricky 2010-06-28

01:28

[MsgID #408]

<quote:wai886 : 2 ,3 ??

lor , ...~4000 *568 > 220

$ 298 755 (3 ) $ 3,947

3 G 12 02/06/10 $250 775 $3226 -

1 H 12 16/03/10 $232 742 $3127 -

3 A 12 25/02/10 $194 568 $3412 ->

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09:40

[MsgID #409]

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( ) s09020162 2010-06-28

10:59

[MsgID #410] bangichent wai886 130 , D124


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where is the ??

1 6 C 12 11/06/10 $275 775 $3548 -

2 33 D 12 10/06/10 $280 788 $3553 -

1 43 B 12 08/06/10 $222 622 $3569 -

and , ......

30 , 70?>

( ) linlee 2010-06-28

11:05

[MsgID #411]

:

http://property.hk.msn.com/msg.php

( ) orato 2010-06-28

11:27

[MsgID #412] http://forum4.hkgolden.com/view.aspx?ty ... d=0&page=1

<quote:linlee :

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http://property.hk.msn.com/msg.php>

( ) fireball 2010-06-28

12:35

[MsgID #413] <quote:wai886 : 2 ,3 ??

lor , ...~4000 *568 > 220

$ 298 755 (3 ) $ 3,947


3 G 12 02/06/10 $250 775 $3226 -

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( ) Lachesis 2010-06-28

15:42

[MsgID #414]

<quote:wai886 : 2 ,3 ??

lor , ...~4000 *568 > 220

$ 298 755 (3 ) $ 3,947

3 G 12 02/06/10 $250 775 $3226 -

1 H 12 16/03/10 $232 742 $3127 -

3 A 12 25/02/10 $194 568 $3412 ->

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( ) Forum Administrator

2010-06-29

10:11

[MsgID #415] :

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(http://www.thb.gov.hk/tc/policy/housing/policy/consultation/index.htm)

From Forum Administrator: The Transport and Housing Bureau is organising public forums to collect views from members of the public and interest groups on subsidising home ownership. The forums for general public will be held on 6 July and 21 July, and the forum for interest groups will be held on 20 August. You are most welcomed to join the forums to express your views. For details and registration, please refer to Transport and Housing Bureau's webpage (http://www.thb.gov.hk/eng/policy/housing/policy/consultation/index.htm).

( ) sense 2010-06-29

10:50

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12:03

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( ) Ricky 2010-06-29

12:08

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( ) RCMY 2010-06-29

20:45

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( ) orato 2010-06-29 [MsgID #425]


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These are the tricks of developers to create "home-made" transactions. Are you really that stupid to believe that $70,000 per square foot transactions are true?

Developers use this type of trick to cheat the governement to sell cheap land to them.


00:49

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( ) orato 2010-06-30

01:23

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This guy wrote ... ... then you know this is a guy from the developer or just an idiot.

What is ? $1 per square foot? $100 per square foot? No matter what type of land, how

low the land price, developers would still sell it at the maximum price they can get.

( ) fireball 2010-06-30

11:38

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( ) tata 2010-07-01

19:23

[MsgID #429]

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2010-07-02

14:59

[MsgID #431] :

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(http://www.thb.gov.hk/tc/policy/housing ... /index.htm)

From Forum Administrator: The Transport and Housing Bureau is organising public forums to collect views from members of the public and interest groups on subsidising home ownership. The first forum for general public will be held on 6 July (next Tuesday), and the deadline for registration will be noon tomorrow. You are most welcomed to join the forums and express your views. For details and registration, please refer to Transport and Housing Bureau's webpage (http://www.thb.gov.hk/eng/policy/housin ... /index.htm).

( ) ACKH 2010-07-02

17:05

[MsgID #432] To s09020162:

http://www.legco.gov.hk/yr99-00/chinese ... 682c06.pdf

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00:43

[MsgID #433] no help should be offered as the best cure to laziness is send them back to work

if a person steals once and nobody tells him it is wrong he will continue to steal for the rest of his life

( ) mokymoky 2010-07-03

14:42

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( ) happy1608 2010-07-03

21:40

[MsgID #435] Totally agree what 'mokymoky' said. And after all, ' ', when you see there is lot of need for that and as a tool to

regulate the price of the flat (general) not to raise too sharply.


22:54

[MsgID #436] <quote:happy1608 :Totally agree what 'mokymoky' said.

And after all, ' ', when you see there is lot of need for that and as a tool to

regulate the price of the flat (general) not to raise too sharply.>

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[MsgID #437] ,3 15x , , , 9 6 .

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( ) orato 2010-07-03

23:59

[MsgID #438] <quote:bangicheng : ,3 15x , , , 9

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It is absolutely true that prices are low as mentioned above becuase we just checked the

prices there. Absolutely no need to give help to those people who do not want to move there. The statement "cannot buy affordable housing in Hong Kong" is absolutely wrong.


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( ) kingcole 2010-07-04

01:34

[MsgID #439]

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( ) cfy 2010-07-04

15:23

[MsgID #440] http://www.hangseng.com/ermt/eng/fxmv/p ... e_2010.pdf

According to Hang Seng Economic Research (February 2010, p. 3) Another useful check on property market valuation is the housing price-to-income ratio.... the price-to-income ratio of a 1,500 square feet flat located on Hong Kong Island was 115.3 in September 2009, meaning that the price of such a flat is equivalent to over 115 years of an average household s

income. The ratio was 24% higher than that prevailing during the 1997-peak and was also 120% above its historical average.

Repeat, 'meaning that the price of such a flat is equivalent to over 115 years of an average household s income.' before including the interest expense. How many 115 years that a normal

person can possibly work for in his/her life?


15:46

[MsgID #441] common sense, 6 , 480 , , 2 20

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<quote:cfy :http://www.hangseng.com/ermt/eng/fxmv/p ... e_2010.pdf

According to Hang Seng Economic Research (February 2010, p. 3) Another useful check on property market valuation is the housing price-to-income ratio.... the price-to-income ratio of a 1,500 square feet flat located on Hong Kong Island was 115.3 in September 2009, meaning that the price of such a flat is equivalent to over 115 years of an average household s

income. The ratio was 24% higher than that prevailing during the 1997-peak and was also 120% above its historical average.

Repeat, 'meaning that the price of such a flat is equivalent to over 115 years of an average household s income.' before including the interest expense. How many 115 years that a normal

person can possibly work for in his/her life?>

( ) orato 2010-07-04

17:50

[MsgID #442] Maybe the guy forgot to include Lee XXX Kei newly bought land at the peak, at $100,000 per square foot + interest cost. If he included this figures, may need a thousand years to buy such a unit at the peak ha ha ha.

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2010-07-05

11:37

[MsgID #443] :

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(http://www.thb.gov.hk/tc/policy/housing%20...%20/index.htm)

From Forum Administrator: The Transport and Housing Bureau is organising public forums to collect views from members of the public and interest groups on subsidising home ownership. The forum for general public will be held on 21 July (Wednesday), and the forum for interest groups will be held on 20 August (Friday). You are sincerely invited to join the forums and express your views. For details and registration, please refer to Transport and Housing Bureau's webpage (http://www.thb.gov.hk/eng/policy/housin%20...%20/index.htm).

( ) XLarage123 2010-07-05

15:27

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16:26

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17:41

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19:35

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20:35

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20:48

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09:31

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11:20

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11:54

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( ) kingcole 2010-07-06

15:01

[MsgID #456] MPF ...

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( ) fireball 2010-07-06

15:04

[MsgID #457]

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15:12

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16:11

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( ) bh72bh72 2010-07-06

17:14

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17:28

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20:13

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( ) XLarage123 2010-07-06

21:31

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( ) wasper 2010-07-06

21:55

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( ) XLarage123 2010-07-06

22:57

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10:46

[MsgID #467] <quote:wasper :

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( ) XLarage123 2010-07-07

11:26

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13:39

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13:41

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14:00

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15:43

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17:17

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17:19

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17:42

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18:35

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21:37

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21:39

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21:41

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( ) uhuiyl888 2010-07-07

23:02

[MsgID #481] the help should not be in money form. the abandoned "home ownership scheme" had actually worked well in the past. it discouraged speculation, fostered the sense of belonging and really improved the living condition of the people residing there without having them to spend an unaffordable amount of money on the property. in this way, the residents can still accumulate wealth from money left behind after paying the monthly installment while the property's price will only rise gradually in the long run.

( ) XLarage123 2010-07-07

23:33

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( ) 2010-07-08

00:05

[MsgID #484]

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04:47

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( ) orato 2010-07-08

06:39

[MsgID #486] Public housing are designed for poor people and not . should be kicked out

immediately.

( ) XLarage123 2010-07-08

08:58

[MsgID #487] ching , o

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( ) Ricky 2010-07-08

11:18

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( ) wasper 2010-07-08

12:06

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( ) wasper 2010-07-08

12:23

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( ) wasper 2010-07-08

13:47

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( ) stanley 2010-07-08

18:38

[MsgID #493] ( Benz BMW) 60

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2010-07-08

22:36

[MsgID #494] :

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From Forum Administrator: The Transport and Housing Bureau is organising public forums to collect views from members of the public and interest groups on subsidising home ownership. The next forum for general public will be held on 21 July (Wednesday), and the forum for interest groups will be held on 20 August (Friday). You are invited to join the forums to express your views. For details and registration, please refer to Transport and Housing Bureau's webpage (http://www.thb.gov.hk/eng/policy/housin ... /index.htm).


11:14

[MsgID #495] 61, 97 39%

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( ) tata 2010-07-09

11:23

[MsgID #496]

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( ) mic_mic_p 2010-07-11

23:07

[MsgID #498] It is necessary to control the price of house so that it will not fluctuate a lot. As such, the followings are measures that gov can adopt:

1. Continue to build house by government In order to enable government to have more direct influence. Government needs to build house by themselves. In this way, government can have direct influence of the supply of the housing unit not just influence on the supply of land. Since low price of the land does not necessary low price of the house that sell by the several big properties makers.

2. Build better quality housing by government so that different type of people can choose: Currently only low end public housing is built by government for low income group. Gov should build different type of housing for different type of income group i.e. Low Income Group, Medium Income Group, Sandwich class, even High income group. Thus, so that different income level people can benefit as what has been done in Singapore.

3. Public housing can be rent or bought - Apart from the "Public Housing" that provided by government which can be rent by the low income group, there can be option for different income group people to rent the housing instead of buying it. - Thus, this can provide steady and long term supply of renting option for people.

4. Discontinue the high price selling of the land Recently, the bottom price of the land is set on too high level. This makes government set bad base price to promote the high housing price. Thus, the government is in one way saying the price of the house going too high but on the other hand setting high bottom prices of the land.


23:44

[MsgID #499]

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<quote:mic_mic_p :It is necessary to control the price of house so that it will not fluctuate a lot. As

such, the followings are measures that gov can adopt:




4. Discontinue the high price selling of the land Recently, the bottom price of the land is set on too high level. This makes government set bad base price to promote the high housing price. Thus, the government is in one way saying the price of the house going too high but on the other hand setting high bottom prices of the land.>

( ) orato 2010-07-12

00:18

[MsgID #500] Agreed, developers are sending their people here again to cheat us so that they buy "low" price land.... $100 per square foot to them... and then they can sell their units back to us at $10000 per square foot.

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( ) fireball 2010-07-12

10:14

[MsgID #501]

<quote:mic_mic_p :It is necessary to control the price of house so that it will not fluctuate a lot. As

such, the followings are measures that gov can adopt:



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( ) fireball 2010-07-12

10:20

[MsgID #502] <quote:orato :Agreed, developers are sending their people here again to cheat us so that they buy

"low" price land.... $100 per square foot to them... and then they can sell their units back to us at $10000 per square foot. >

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2010-07-13

15:53

[MsgID #503] :

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From Forum Administrator: The Transport and Housing Bureau is organising public forums to collect views from members of the public and interest groups on subsidising home ownership. The next forum for general public will be held on 21 July (next Wednesday), and the closing date of registration will be noon of 19 July. You are most welcomed to join the forums to express your views. For details and registration, please refer to Transport and Housing Bureau's webpage (http://www.thb.gov.hk/eng/policy/housin ... /index.htm).


17:48

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( ) Gmimi 2010-07-14

14:49

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( ) Gmimi 2010-07-14

14:52

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15:18

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( ) fireball 2010-07-14

15:43

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( ) stanley 2010-07-14

21:34

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( ) stanley 2010-07-14

21:37

[MsgID #510]

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( ) stanley 2010-07-14

21:39

[MsgID #511]

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( ) henry_boyie 2010-07-14

23:53

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( ) fireball 2010-07-15

10:14

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( ) kingcole 2010-07-15

11:15

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( ) 2010-07-15

18:49

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( ) chris 2010-07-15

19:27

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( ) henry_boyie 2010-07-15

19:42

[MsgID #518]

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viewtopic.php?p=3383#p3383

( ) andycheung 2010-07-15

22:20

[MsgID #519] I think the government should allow the citizen, especially the person with monthly income between $15000 and around $ 30000 to use part of their MPF as their first down payment to buy their first property!!!! In fact, these income group citizen are very difficult to save enough money as their first down payment to buy their first property!!!! They in fact are the most needed group in the society... They are not qualified to live in public house or home ownership scheme flat... The government should show its fexibility in its policy to give one more option for these income group citizen. I think the citizen should have the right to make their own decision whether to draw part of their MPF to achieve their hope to buy their first own property!!!!! MPF is their money. The government should allow them to do so. Also, no public money is requied to use for my proposal! This suggestion is mostly supported when I discussed with most of my friends!!


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( ) 2010-07-16

02:09

[MsgID #521]

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( ) oo120 2010-07-16

07:06

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10:01


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10:19


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16:04

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16:09

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16:32

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16:43

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16:44

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17:11

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00:31

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03:16

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13:25

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2010-07-18

23:15

[MsgID #536] :

1.5% 2010 3 6,917

1.0%

2009 4.3% 47,347

2010

http://www.rvd.gov.hk/tc/publications/hkpr10.htm

2010 3 131,877 45%

http://www.landreg.gov.hk/tc/monthly/monthly.htm

From Forum Administrator: We have received some requests for further statistical information in the context of this consultation. The information is posted below for general interest and reference.

Vacancy of Public Rental Housing (PRH) Flats

It is the target of Housing Authority to keep the vacancy rate for PRH flats at 1.5% or below. As at end March 2010, the vacancy rate was 1.0%, with 6,917 PRH flats vacant.

Vacancy of Private Domestic Units

The vacancy rate for private domestic units was 4.3% as at end 2009, with 47,347 units being vacant. More detailed statistics on vacancy of private domestic units can be found in the Rating &Valuation Department(R&VD) s report, Hong Kong Property Review , which can be downloaded from

R&VD s website via this link: http://www.rvd.gov.hk/en/publications/hkpr10.htm.

Private Residential Property Transactions

During the 12 months to March 2010, there were 131,877 transactions of private residential properties, 45% of them with consideration less than $2 million. More statistics on transactions of private residential properties are available on Lands Department's website through this link: http://www.landreg.gov.hk/en/monthly/monthly.htm.


00:08

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2010-07-19

09:18

[MsgID #539] :

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From Forum Administrator: The Transport and Housing Bureau is organising public forums to collect views from members of the public and interest groups on subsidising home ownership. The second forum for general public will be held on 21 July (Wednesday), and the closing date of registration will be noon today. If you are interested to join the forums to express your views, please register now! For details and registration, please refer to Transport and Housing Bureau's webpage (http://www.thb.gov.hk/eng/policy/housin ... /index.htm).

( ) katie_yi 2010-07-19

20:45

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13:47

[MsgID #541]

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( ) fireball 2010-07-20

14:10

[MsgID #542]

<quote:skinfo :

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( ) henry_boyie 2010-07-20

14:13

[MsgID #543] <quote:skinfo :

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I wrote the below last week, take a look before raising your stupid comparison with S'pore.

, SINGAPORE ! WOR.

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( ) henry_boyie 2010-07-20

14:19


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( ) Ricky 2010-07-20

15:07


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15:17


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( ) henry_boyie 2010-07-20

15:28

[MsgID #547]

<quote:bangicheng :good idea, d , 7% ,25%mpf,

.

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( ) orato 2010-07-20

16:00

[MsgID #548] <quote:henry_boyie : >

Only if they are in combat field, otherwise for these type of people in Hong Kong is just party

time every day and wasting tax payers' money.


16:15

[MsgID #549] , 30 % , .

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( ) henry_boyie 2010-07-20

16:21

[MsgID #550]

<quote:bangicheng : , 30 % , .

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But there are still many stupid guys who believe S'pore gov. is giving good benifit to the public and request our gov. to go the same.

( ) fireball 2010-07-20

16:34

[MsgID #551]

<quote:henry_boyie :But there are still many stupid guys who believe S'pore gov. is giving good

benifit to the public and request our gov. to go the same.>

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( ) huhechan 2010-07-21

11:41

[MsgID #553]

( ) wasper 2010-07-21

13:09

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13:47

[MsgID #555]

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( ) ckkl 2010-07-21

22:31

[MsgID #557]

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( ) kingcole 2010-07-22

01:17

[MsgID #558] ?

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10:55

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( ) henry_boyie 2010-07-22

11:36

[MsgID #561]

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( ) ayu 2010-07-22

19:53

[MsgID #562]

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( ) FRANKY 2010-07-24

11:29

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