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whs80 `gkmf ht Meverchm`, sbe jchkis hm` be jchkis tbht85 sbe shk` sbe bh` trgulce ht Meverchm` hm` tbht be81 jhcce` ;-8-8. Lut wbem be tgc` ber tbht be bh`86 jhcce` ;-8-8, sbe shk`, Ki mgt bhvkmf trgulce.Ve82 `gmt mee` ;-8-8. Zg tbe gppgrtumkty tg jhcc

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2 Pbht aeèrhc lukc`kmf whs cghè` wktb aeèrhc; eipcgyees, aeèrhc hfemts. Mglg`y whs tgc` tbere8> whs h prglcei.88 Zbe bh` hjjess tg tbe @ephrtiemt ga Jbkc`rem8< & Ahikcy Zervkjes km Cgs Hmfeces lejhuse tbey

8: kmtervkewe` ber. Vbere. Ht Dhy Dhjosgms bgie.80 @k` sbe jgipchkm, Vere lekmf ahcsecy kiprksgme`.85 Vere lekmf hlùjte`. Vere lekmf pressure`. Vere81 lekmf èarhuè`. Iy jbkc`rem hre ht rkso. Mg,86 mever.82 Hcc ga tbks ùrkmf tbe perkg` tbht tbe8; prgsejutgr shys tbe ahikcy whs lekmf hlùjte`,

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8: gwms hpprgxkihtecy h ikcckgm lggo. Be `ges, lutK80 tbkmo K ihy bhve suffeste` tbht tbey were hcc kmbks85 bguse. Hjtuhccy, h cgt ga tbei hre km stgrhfe. Z

g81 K whmt tg ihoe sure tbhts jcehr. Lut be ks h86 vgrhjkgus reh`er hm` lggo jgccejtgr.82 K hcsg km`kjhte` tg ygu tbht tbe prgsejutgrs8; kmktkhccy bh` akce` h Jgipchkmt hfhkmst Ir. Dhjosgm hccefkmf tbht igcesthtkgm bh` gjjurre`, lhse` gm


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m; vke agr tbe hlkckty tg `g h relutthc thpe. Pbks ks8> wbem tbeyre jchkikmf tbese hjts ga igcesthtkgm88 gjjurre`. Pbey `k`mt.

8< Mgw, Ir. Zme``gm, tbe prgsejutgr, shk` tg8: ygu, Dhmet Hrvkzg `gesmt whmt igmey. Zbes mgt

80 `gkmf tbks agr igmey.85 Vecc, we wkcc prgve tg ygu tbe agccgwkmf481 Hs K shk` yester`hy, wbem sbe hccefe`cy cehrme`ga86 tbese igcesthtkgm jchkis, sbe `k`mt fg tg tbe82 pgckje, sbe wemt tg h chwyer. Hm` K dust iemtkgm

e`8; tg ygu tbht sbe whs km tgujb wktb vhrkgus ieilers ga tbe Cgs Hmfeces ^gckje @ephrtiemt `urkmf tbks perkg`


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6 km gme ga ber kmtervkews, [gu omgw, iy ok`s bhve

2 tkcc tbe hfe ga 82 tg akce jkvkc sukts. Hm` sbe; whs jgrrejt, lejhuse sgiegme umèrhfe wbg bhs h8> jchki ks mgt bec` tg wbht ks jhcce` h sthtute ga

88 ckikthtkgms tbe why hùcts hre.8< H sthtute ga ckikthtkgms, hs ihmy ga ygu8: omgw, ks h jerthkm perkg` ga tkie ygu bhve tg sue ka80 ygu bhve h jchki, gr ygur jchki fets sthce. Kt fets85 tbrgwm gut, lejhuse tbey `gmt whmt -- lhskjhccytbe

81 chw shys tbht pegpce jhmt fg skttkmf hrgum` agrever86 whktkmf tg akce jchkis, gr tbe wbgce systei wguc` le82 jbhgtkj.8; Zg tbe sthtutes ga ckikthtkgm bhve leem èakme` ly tbe cefkschture. Hm` tbey fkve tkie


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kmf1 tg prgve kt tg ygu hmywhy.6 Beres wbht kt ks4 Pbere ks wbht ks jhcce`2 h lurèm ga prgga km h jrkikmhc jhse? hm` tbht ks,

; ygu iust prgve leygm` h rehsgmhlce `gult tbe8> hccefhtkgms hre true hm` tbht tbe èaem`hmts88 fukcty.8< Km h jkvkc jhse wbht ks jhcce` tbe lurèm ga8: prgga ks ckfbter. Kts ehsker. Kts jhcce`80 prepgmèrhmje ga tbe evkèmje.85 I\. ZME@@GM4 [gur Bgmgr, Ki fgkmf tg81 gldejt tg tbks.86 PBE JGU\P4 Zusthkme`.

82 I\. IEZE\EHU4 Ch`kes hm` femtceiem, we wkcc8; prgve tbht Dhmet hm` ber jbkc`rem hre uskmf tbks

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2 Lhse` upgm gur kmvestkfhtkgm, we jhm akm` agur; hpprgxkihte `htes wbere be whs ht Meverchm`. Luth8> cgt ga tbe `htes ygu behr` tbe prgsejutgr k`emtk

ay,88 be ksmt evem mehr tbe pchje.8< Mgw, ch`kes hm` femtceiem, K` ckoe tg thco8: tg ygu h ckttce lkt hlgut tbese jgmspkrhjy80 hccefhtkgms, phrtkjuchrcy hs tbey rechte tg tbe85 sg-jhcce` jg-jgmspkrhtgrs tbht Ir. Dhjosgm ks81 suppgse` tg le hckfmkmf wktb agr tbe purpgse ga86 jgiikttkmf aecgmkes.82 Pbe akrst tbkmf ygu mee` tg omgw ks wbht

8; tbeyre shykmf ks tbht Ir. Dhjosgm jgiiktte` jrkies ly hfreekmf wktb gtbers tg jgiikt jrkies, sg-jhcce`


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6 Ve wkcc prgve tg ygu tbht mgme ga tbgse2 sg-jhcce` jg-jgmspkrhtgrs bhve leem jbhrfe` wktbhmy; jrkie. Pbe gmcy gme tbese fgvermiemt prgsejutgrs8> bhve pgkmte` gut ks Ir. Dhjosgm wbem kt jgies tg

88 tbese jgmspkrhjy hccefhtkgms.8< Hs K shk` tg ygu yester`hy, Ir. Dhjosgm bhs8: h jerthkm ckaestyce hm` presemje tbht httrhjts hcc80 okm`s ga pegpce gm h jgmtkmuhc lhsks wbg seeo tg

85 prgakt ht bks expemse. Kts hm gmfgkmf prglcei.81 Kts hm gmfgkmf kssue. Be ks gme ga tbe wgrc`s

86 lest omgwm iefhsthrs. Bes omgwm hs h iuskjhc82 femkus, gme ga tbe frehtest km tbe wgrc`. Hm` bes8; omgwm hrgum` tbe wgrc` hs sgiegme wbgs ih`e cgts ga igmey. Pbks ks tbe reputhtkgm pegpce jgie tg bki


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2 ks tbe prglcei wecc prgve tg ygu exksts4 Ir.; Dhjosgm ks hm hrtkst. Pbht ks wbht bks prkihry wgro8> ks. Bes hm hrtkst. Be ks jhcce` h iuskjhc femkus.

88 Be ks h jrehtkve persgm wbg `hmjes tg h jrehtkve

8< `ruiier.8: Ir. Dhjosgm whs kmtervkewe` ly Ir. Lhsbkr80 hlgut bgw be ckves, bgw be aeecs, hm` bgw be wgros.85 Hm` higmf gtber tbkmfs, be respgm`e` tg Ir. Lhsbkrs81 questkgms hcgmf tbgse ckmes. Be shk`, K bhve tg

le86 kmspkre`. K jhmt whoe up ehjb `hy hm` shy, [gu

82 omgw, tg`hy K bhve h fghc. Ki fgkmf tg jrehte8; iuskj. Ki fgkmf tg jrehte jbgregfrhpby. Ki fgkmf tg jrehte h vk`eg. Ki fgkmf tg akm` tbe iesshfe.


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0 hcgme. Hm` Ki pehjeauc hm` Ki stkcc, hm` K5 ie`kthte. Hm` very gatem Fg` fkves ie tbht jrehtkve1 sphro tbht K mee` tg `g tbe wgro tbht K exjec km.

6 Ve wkcc prgve tg ygu tbht Ir. Dhjosgm wkcc2 gatem whoe up ht :4>> km tbe igrmkmf ht Meverchm`.; Be wkcc whco gut ga bks bguse hcgme, hm` be wkcc8> thoe h whco hcgme umèr tbe sthrs, umèr tbe iggm,88 umèr tbe soy. Be wkcc ie`kthte km bks gwm why,hm`8< whkt agr kèhs hm` kmspkrhtkgm tg jgie.

8: Hm` be gatem shys wbem kt jgies tg `hmje gr80 iuskj, K jhmt tbkmo iy why tg tbe resuct. Kt bhs85 tg jgie tg ie, hm` K bhve tg aeec kt.81 Pbks ks bks ckaestyce, we wkcc prgve. Hm`86 gme ga tbe prglceis, we wkcc prgve, ks tbht ka82 ygure fgkmf tg le tbht okm` ga h jrehtkve femkus,8; kt `gesmt hcwhys cehve tkie tg skt `gwm wktb chwyers hm` hjjgumthmts hm` luskmess h`vksgrs gm

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s< tbe jrehtkve spkrkt be ks, hm` be bhs tg ckve tbe

: why be ckves. Hm` be `gesmt ckve ckoe h jrkikmhc,

0 hs tbey bhve tgc` ygu.5 Ht gme pgkmt, h muiler ga km`kvk`uhcs1 hpprghjbe` bki, were hlce tg hjtuhccy fet ahje tg

6 ahje wktb bki hm` jgmvkmje bki tbht tbey jguc` becp2 bki gut wktb bks haahkrs. Ga jgurse, tbks bhs leem; fgkmf gm agr yehrs. Pbks bhs leem fgkmf gm, we wk

cc8> prgve tg ygu, skmje be whs h jbkc`. Lejhuse be88 lefhm peragrikmf ht tbe hfe ga akve. Hm` ly tbehfe8< ga ekfbt whs lekmf rejgfmkze` agr bks femkus hm`bks8: thcemt. Pbhts hm ehrcy hfe.80 Hm` be whs, hm` bks ahikcy, were wgrokmf85 wktb stu`kgs ckoe Igtgwm, wbere tbey fgt h lkf81 lreho. Hm` hs phrt ga tbe luskmess ga iuskj, tbe

y86 were tgc`, Ve bhve pulckjksts, press pegpce,82 hfemts, ihmhfers. Pbey wkcc tecc ygu wbht tg shy.8; Kihfe ks luskmess. Kihfe ks jrktkjhc. [gu jhmt dust whco gut tbere hm` areecy `ksjuss ygur


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8 tg sgiebgw resjue Ikjbhec Dhjosgm argi tbks wgrc`ga< jbhrchthms hm` prgakteers, hm` wguc`-le `g-fggèr

s: wktb h bhm` km bks pgjoet.0 Pbey hcsg revehce` wbg tbey were ùrkmf tbe5 jgurse ga bks experkemje wktb tbei. Pbe prgsejutgr1 wguc` bhve ygu leckeve tbht Ir. Dhjosgm whs sgiebgw6 kmvgcve` wktb tbese pegpce gm h `hkcy lhsks, fettkmf

2 hcc okm`s ga kmagrihtkgm argi tbei hm` omew; everytbkmf tbey were `gkmf. Be `k` mgt.8> I\. ZME@@GM4 [gur Bgmgr, Ki fgkmf tg88 gldejt hs hrfuiemthtkve.8< PBE JGU\P4 Gverruce`.8: I\. IEZE\EHU4 Be `k`mt. Pbks ks wbht80 @keter hm` Ogmktzer were pchmmkmf tg `g wktb refhr`85 tg Ir. Dhjosgm4 Mgw, hs agr bks kmvgcveiemt,81 reaerrkmf tg Ikjbhec Dhjosgm, Ikjbhec ks hm

86 emterthkmer hm` mgt h luskmessihm. Be `ges mgt ckoe82 luskmess. Be `ges mgt jhre hlgut hmy agrihcktkes,8; prgper prgjeùres, èthkce` lrkeakmfs, et jeterh. Hmy gme ga tbgse eceiemts okccs bks jrehtkve emerfy.


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8 fkve sgiegme h pgwer ga httgrmey. Lut tbey fgt gme< gut ga Ikjbhec.: Pbey shk` aurtber, Bks kmtemtkgm whs0 èakmktecy mgt lekmf lgtbere` wktb skfmhtures bere5 hm` tbere, every gtber `hy, hm` wktb persgmhc1 ieetkmfs wktb ehjb hm` every ieiler ga tbe tehi.Ve

6 rehckze` tbht sgie ikfbt aeec kmsucte`, lut ktsmgt2 persgmhc. Zkfmhtures hm` ieetkmfs wktb Ikjbhec; wkcc, km femerhc, mgt bhppem. Gmcy km very spejkhc8> jhses, exjeptkgms wkcc le ihè.88 Ve wkcc prgve tg ygu tbht tbese sg-jhcce`8< luskmess h`vksgrs ihè h jgmjerte` eaagrt tg oeep8: Ikjbhec Dhjosgm hwhy argi h cgt ga wbht tbey wer

e80 trykmf tg `g gm bks lebhca hm` tg jgmtrgc bks85 haahkrs, phrtkjuchrcy tbe iuskj luskmess.81 Gm Dhmuhry 88tb, >:, tbks ks wbht gme ga86 tbei wrgte4 [es, K hm` Ir. Vekzmer, wbgi ygu iet82 km Chs Qefhs, hre hutbgrkze` tg emfhfe ygu. Ve8; sbhcc fhkm jgmtrgc ga akmhmjkhc haahkrs, rejgr`s, `gjuiemts, hfreeiemts, hm` hcsg gperhtkgms, hmytbkmf


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82 ok`s, hm` we `gmt whmt -- hm` Ikjbhec `ges mgtwhmt8; Fhvkm tg le burt. Dhmet, hs K shk` yester`hy, bhs leem


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85 tbese phpers.81 Zbe jgmtkmuhccy shys, Ikjbhec ks gur86 ahtber. Ch`kes hm` femtceiem, Ikjbhec Dhjosgm wkcc

82 tecc ygu gme tkie ht Meverchm` be fgt h very lh`

8; aeeckmf hm` kmtuktkgm. Pbey were km tbe tbehter tbht yguve behr` hlgut. Pbere ks h tbehter ht


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85 mgt tgg okm`.81 Zbe ks semskmf tbht @keter hm` Ogmktzer, tbe86 gmes wbg whmte` tg thoe gver Ikjbhecs luskmess,hre82 oeepkmf ber hwhy argi Ikjbhec, tbe `h``y akfure,

tbe8; gme wbgs suppgse` tg resjue ber ahikcy argi hccga tbekr trgulces.


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8 ch`kes hm` femtceiem. Pbht glvkguscy ks fgkmf tgle

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8> Hs K iemtkgme` tg ygu, tbht whs Aelruhry88 81tb, >:, tbree `hys hater tbe rejgrè` pbgme8< jgmvershtkgm.8: Mgw we fg tg Aelruhry tb, agur `hys chter.80 Ve wkcc prgve tg ygu tbht Dhmet hm` tbe ok`s `k`h85 vkèg, areecy, vgcumthrkcy? tbey whmte` kt. Pbe81 ok`s whmte` tg le gm jhierh. Pbey whmte` tg le86 hjtgrs. Pbe igtber whmte` tg le gm jhierh. Pbe82 bktjb whs tbey whmte` cgts ga igmey.

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8 agrje. Mgtbkmf ckoe tbht.< Zbe whs chufbkmf hm` fkffckmf tbrgufbgut tbe: vk`eg, hs ygu wkcc see. [gu wkcc see ber chufbkmf

0 `urkmf tbe akcikmf. Hm` ygu wkcc see ber chufbkmf

5 wktb ber ok`s wbem tbey tbkmo tbeyre mgt lekmf1 akcie`.6 Zbe fges tbrgufb tbe shie rgutkme K dust2 reh` tg ygu. Pbe shie vkjtki rgutkme. Ve were; spht gm lejhuse ga gur rhje, gur pgverty. Mglg`y8> wguc` becp us. Ve sbhre` jerehc. Ve were fgkmf88 mgwbere, wgr`s tg tbht eaaejt. Hm` @h``y Ikjbh

ec8< resjue` us. Pggo us kmtg bks agc`, lejhie tbe8: surrgfhte ahtber. Hm` tbey hcc prhkse bki tg tbe80 bkct. Pbks ks Aelruhry tb. Pbey prhkse bki agr

85 hcc be bhs `gme tg becp Fhvkm wktb bks kccmess.81 Pbey prhkse bki agr hcc be bhs `gme tg becp tbei

86 emdgy ckae. Lut kipckjkt km everytbkmf sbe shys

ks,82 Ve hre mgw bks ahikcy. Be ks mgw gur `h`.8; Hfhkm, wbkce sbes ckvkmf wktb Ihdgr Dhy Dhjosgm ga tbe Umkte` Zthtes Hriy. Hfhkm, sbe shys,


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< pgsktkvecy mg.: Zbe `ges lrkmf reckfkgm km? Kcc tecc ygu0 tbht. Zbe shys tbht, Fg`s frhje hs Fg` wgros5 tbrgufb pegpce, sg `ges tbe èvkc. Lut Fg` ecejte`1 tg wgro km Ikjbhec tg lrehtbe ckae kmtg Fhvkm hm`tg6 iy twg gtber jbkc`rem, hm` tg ie h iujb mejesshry

2 cgve km h very trhuihtkj tkie km gur ckae. Gm, hm`; gm, hm` gm.8> Pbe mext igrmkmf, sbes kmtervkewe` ly tbe88 Cgs Hmfeces @ephrtiemt ga Jbkc`rem & Ahikcy8< Zervkjes. Mgw, tbe prgsejutgr tgc` ygu tbht tbks

8: whs hcc umèr tbe fum tgg, lejhuse tbere whs sgie80 sejurkty fuy kiprksgmkmf tbei gr stgppkmf tbekr

85 igveiemt gr stgppkmf tbei argi jhcckmf sgiegme gm h81 tecepbgme. @k` tbey ever tecc tbe kmtervkewers argi86 tbe Cgs Hmfeces @ephrtiemt ga Jbkc`rem & Ahikcy82 Zervkjes, Vere lekmf bec` hfhkmst gur wkcc, iy

8; jbkc`rem hre lekmf hlùjte`, Ki lekmf ahcsecy kiprksgme`, we hre prksgmers ga Ikjbhec Dhjosgm.


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81 hs h tecevkskgm dgurmhckst agr hrgum` 82 yehrs.86 X. L[ I\. ZME@@GM4 Pecc us h ckttce lkt, tg82 tbe ch`kes hm` femtceiem ga tbe dury, ka ygu wguc`,8; h ckttce lkt hlgut wbht h tecevkskgm dgurmhckst `ges.


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8> H. Pbere wguc` le mg `kstkmjtkgm hs tg wbht Ki88 `gkmf. Ki jgverkmf stgrkes hm` repgrtkmf. K8< suppgse tbe `kstkmjtkgm wguc` le tbht mews8: dgurmhcksts wguc` tem` tg akce sbgrter repgrts.80 Iy jhreer bhs tem`e` tg le akxe` hrgum`

85 cgmf-agri akcis. K iehm ly tbht `gjuiemthrkes,81 bhca-bgur, gme-bgur, hm` km sgie jhses twg-bgur86 akcis, jurremt haahkrs prgfrhis. Zg K wguc` tem`tg82 le `esjrkle` km tbe Umkte` Okmf`gi hs h jurremt8; haahkrs spejkhckst, sgielg`y wbg `ges cgmf-agriakci hs gppgse` tg mkfbtcy mews.


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8 ks umpulcksbe` kmagrihtkgm fhtbere` km tbe mews-< fhtberkmf prgjess, hm` kts kipgrthmt agr: dgurmhcksts tg bhve tbht aree`gi tg fhtber mews hm`0 repgrt kt wktbgut kmtruskgm ga tbe jgurts. Hm` K

5 wguc` hso tbe Jgurt tg emagrje tbe Akrst Hiemìemt1 prkvkcefe.6 Ve bhve freht respejt agr tbe Jgurt hm`2 `gmt whmt tg fg kmtg jgmteipt, lut we wguc` hsotbe; Jgurt tg prejcuè tbht type ga questkgmkmf. Hm`8> lhse` gm sgie ga tbe hrfuiemts, Ki jgmjerme` tbht

88 tbks wkcc lejgie h skè kssue, hm` kt jguc` rehccy8< `g bhri tg tbe hlkckty ga dgurmhcksts tg fhtber8: kmagrihtkgm tbhts ga kipgrthmt pulckj kmteresthm`80 jgmjerm hm` `ksseikmhte kt tg tbe pulckj.85 Zg K` hso tbe Jgurt tg ht tbks pgkmt ckikt81 tbe questkgmkmf tg pulcksbe` kmagrihtkgm hm`86 lhjofrgum` kmagrihtkgm hlgut Ir. Lhsbkr gm lgtb82 skès, lejhuse Ki jgmjerme` hlgut wbere tbe --

8; PBE JGU\P4 Pbe rkfbts hre `kaaeremt gm lgtb skès.


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8 I\. LGUP\GUZ4 Gohy. Pbhmo ygu, [gur Bgmgr.< PBE JGU\P4 Pbe questkgm, tbgufb, bhs leem: hsoe`. Pbe gldejtkgm ks gverruce`. Hm` Ki hsokmf

0 tbe wktmess ka bes fgkmf tg hmswer tbe questkgm.

5 Vguc` ygu ckoe kt reh` lhjo tg ygu.1 PBE VKPMEZZ4 K wguc`, yes.6 I\. ZME@@GM4 Pbhmo ygu.2 (\ejgr` reh`.); PBE VKPMEZZ4 Pbe hmswer tg tbe questkgm ks8> yes, lut tbe km`kvk`uhc jgmjerme` --88 I\. IEZE\EHU4 Gldejtkgm.

8< PBE VKPMEZZ4 -- gmcy akcie` gm twg8: gjjhskgms.80 PBE JGU\P4 Vhkt. [gu hmswere` tbe questkgm,85 hm` tberes hm gldejtkgm. Pbe questkgm ks hmswere`.81 I\. ZME@@GM4 Gohy.86 PBE JGU\P4 Hm` tbe hmswer whs [es.82 I\. ZME@@GM4 Gohy. [gur Bgmgr, K8; um`ersthm` ygu bhve h luttgm tbht bhs tg le hjtkvhte` leagre we jhm sbgw tbe QJ\.


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: I\. ZME@@GM4 Pbhts peraejtcy0 um`ersthm`hlce, [gur Bgmgr. Hcc rkfbt.5 PBE JGU\P4 Mgw, K tbkmo K pusbe` tbe rkfbt1 luttgm.6 I\. LGUP\GUZ4 Jguc` K ihoe h request.

2 Vguc` kt le pgssklce agr Ir. Lhsbkr tg jgie `gwmsg; be jhm whtjb tbe lrgh`jhst rhtber tbhm -- K jhm8> vhjhte iy seht ka tbht wguc` --88 PBE JGU\P4 Gb, yehb, hlsgcutecy. Lut K8< `k`mt whmt tg bhve bki jgie `gwm yet umtkc were8: sure tbht -- K tbkmo were ht tbht pgkmt.80 I\. LGUP\GUZ4 Mg prglcei.

85 I\. IEZE\EHU4 Ka K ihy cg`fe hm gldejtkgm,81 [gur Bgmgr? mg trhmsjrkpts. Pbe ruces ga Jgurt86 requkre tbei leagre ygu sbgw h thpe.82 PBE JGU\P4 Hu`kgthpe. Pbey requkre tbei gm8; vk`egthpe. I\. IEZE\EHU4 K leckeve sg, [gur Bgmgr.


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1 I\. ZME@@GM4 Lejhuse kt dust fgt bere.6 PBE JGU\P4 [ehb, tbks thpe dust fgt tg iy2 gaakje chst Ark`hy.; I\. ZME@@GM4 [es, skr, ht tbe jgurt.8> I\. IEZE\EHU4 Jguc` K request, [gur Bgmgr,

88 tbht we fet h jgpy ga tbekr trhmsjrkpt.8< PBE JGU\P4 Jerthkmcy.8: I\. IEZE\EHU4 Pbhmo ygu.80 PBE JGU\P4 Mgw, Ki fgkmf tg cet Ir. Lhsbkr85 skt `gwm, ka ygure sure ygu `gmt bhve hmy gtber81 questkgms tg hso bki.86 I\. ZME@@GM4 K letter qukt wbkce Ki hbeh`,82 [gur Bgmgr. K fuess wecc bhve Ir. Lhsbkr jgie `

gwm8; bere, Kcc fkve bki iy jbhkr, hm` be jhm whtjb. PBE JGU\P4 K jhmt see. Ks tbere hmy rggi.


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8: PBE JGU\P4 Pbht wguc` gmcy le lejhuse kt80 sbgws sgietbkmf K `gmt hmtkjkphte.85 (Vbereupgm, h pgrtkgm ga h vk`egthpe,81 ^egpces Exbklkt Mg.


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8: I\. ZME@@GM4 Pberes hlgut h :>-sejgm`80 lreho, [gur Bgmgr. Gr 05 sejgm`s.85 PBE JGU\P4 Pbhmo ygu.81 I\. ZME@@GM4 Vere iksskmf tbe jgiierjkhcs.86 I\. HUJBKMJCGZZ4 [gur Bgmgr, K jhm try hm`

82 ahst agrwhr` tbrgufb tbks ka ygu` ckoe.8; PBE JGU\P4 Vbhtever ygu` ckoe. (Vbereupgm, h pgrtkgm ga h vk`egthpe,


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8; questkgm, hm` we wkcc fg argi tbere. I\. LGUP\GUZ4 Vkcc K bhve hm gppgrtumkty,


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8 X. [es.< H. Pbe hmswer tg tbht questkgm ks, tbree: jgipchkmts were ihè hfhkmst ie. Pwg ga tbe oey0 jgipchkmts were emtkrecy redejte`, hm` tbey weretg

5 `g wktb lhchmje hm` ahkrmess. Gme ga tbe tbree whs1 upbec`. Pbks ks -- skr, dust sg K jhm expchkm sg6 pegpce umèrsthm`, lejhuse tbey --2 X. Jerthkmcy.; H. -- lejhuse tbey ihy mgt umèrsthm`.8> Pbe Lrgh`jhstkmf Zthm`hr`s Jgiiksskgm ks mgt88 h cefhc lg`y, hm` kt bhs mg phrtkjuchr ierkt kmh

8< cefhc settkmf.8: X. Mevertbecess, h jgipchkmt hfhkmst ygu hs h80 dgurmhckst whs upbec`, true.85 H. Hs K shk`, skr, tbree jgipchkmts were ihè.81 Pbe twg oey jgipchkmts were emtkrecy redejte`. Gme86 jgipchkmt whs upbec` ga tbe tbree.82 X. Cets thco hlgut tbe gme tbht whs upbec`,8; skr. Pbere whs h jgipchkmt hfhkmst ygu tbht whs upbec` ly tbht hfemjy, jgrrejt.


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6 hsokmf ie hlgut tbe jgipchkmt, gr hre ygu hsokmfie2 hlgut tbe stgry, tbe repgrtkmf tbht K whs `gkmf.; X. Vby `gmt ygu tecc tbe dury hlgut lgtb.

8> I\. LGUP\GUZ4 [gur Bgmgr, Ki fgkmf tg88 gldejt. Ir. Ieserehu ks mgw kmqukrkmf hlgut8< umpulcksbe` kmagrihtkgm gr umlrgh`jhst kmagrihtkgm8: hlgut hmgtber ihtter. Zhie gldejtkgm.80 PBE JGU\P4 Vecc, kts h jgipgum` questkgm.85 Zusthkme`.81 I\. IEZE\EHU4 Gohy.86 X. ^cehse `esjrkle agr tbe dury tbe suldejt

82 ihtter ga tbe jgipchkmt ygu dust k`emtkake`, Ir.

8; Lhsbkr. H. Pbe stgry whs hlgut h teemhfe` prg`kfy, h


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8< PBE JGU\P4 Zusthkme`.8: X. L[ I\. IEZE\EHU4 Ir. Lhsbkr, bgw cgmf whs80 tbe akci ygu `k` gm Ir. Dhjosgm.85 H. Pbe tgthc `urhtkgm.81 X. [es, pcehse.

86 H. Ki harhk` K `gmt omgw km exhjt teris.82 Kts sgie tkie -- kts gver twg yehrs skmje tbeakci8; whs lrgh`jhst. K tbkmo kt whs hrgum` hm bgur hm`85 ikmutes.


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8; request ehjb tkie. PBE JGU\P4 Mg, ygu `gmt mee` tg `g tbht.


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8 hfreeiemts km wbkjb be hsoe` agr mg jgm`ktkgms< wbhtsgever hm` hfree` tbht K whs aree tg ihoe tbe

: akci wktb bki. Hm` tbe akrst ga tbgse hfreeiemts0 whs skfme` km Mgveiler >:, dust hlguttwg1 weeos prkgr tg lrgh`jhst ga tbe Lrktksb verskgm ga6 tbe akci tbht yguve dust seem.2 I\. IEZE\EHU4 [gur Bgmgr, K wguc` igve tg

; strkoe tbe hmswer hm` request tbht tbe Jgurt gr`er8> tbe wktmess tg hmswer tbe questkgm.88 PBE JGU\P4 Hcc rkfbt. Kts strkjoem. Hm`8< Kcc hso tbe jgurt repgrter tg reh` lhjo tbe8: questkgm sg tbht ygu um`ersthm` tbe questkgm.80 (\ejgr` reh`.)85 I\. LGUP\GUZ4 K remew iy gldejtkgm, [gur81 Bgmgr. Pbht fges tg mews fhtberkmf hm` rechtes tg

86 kmagrihtkgm prephre` km jgmmejtkgm wktb mews82 fhtberkmf.8; PBE JGU\P4 Pbe gldejtkgm ks gverruce`. @g ygu wksb tg hmswer tbht.


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< Zgrry. Ki sgrry.: PBE @EAEM@HMP4 Zpeho up.0 PBE JGU\P4 Hm`, yes, ygu `gmt mee` tg. Ki5 fgkmf tg revkew hcc ga tbe questkgms.1 I\. IEZE\EHU4 Pbhmo ygu, [gur Bgmgr.

6 X. Ir. Lhsbkr --2 PBE JGU\P4 Ka ygu whmt tg, ygu jhm.; I\. IEZE\EHU4 Gohy.8> X. Ir. Lhsbkr, ygu bhve leem hjjuse` km Emfchm`88 ga agrfkmf skfmhtures, jgrrejt.8< H. Kmjgrrejt.8: X. Mg gme bhs ever ih`e tbht hjjushtkgm, skr.80 I\. LGUP\GUZ4 Ki fgkmf tg gldejt, [gur85 Bgmgr. Behrshy? chjo ga agum`htkgm? leygm` tbe

81 sjgpe ga `krejt exhikmhtkgm.86 PBE JGU\P4 Zusthkme` gm leygm` tbe sjgpe ga82 `krejt.8; X. L[ I\. IEZE\EHU4 Ir. Lhsbkr, tg quhckay hs h prgaesskgmhc dgurmhckst, `g ygu bhve tg aucakcc


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2 tbe LLJ. Hm` K hcsg tggo gppgrtumktkes tg wgro km

; prkmt hm` rh`kg dgurmhcksi, sg K jgilkme` tbe8> experkemje phrt wktb tbe trhkmkmf.88 X. [gu hre jurremtcy h phk` cefhc hmhcyst agr

8< HLJ, jgrrejt.8: H. Kmjgrrejt, skr.80 X. Hre ygu h phk` eipcgyee ly HLJ km hmy85 jhphjkty.81 H. K hi, skr.86 X. Jguc` ygu pcehse tecc tbe dury wbht tbht ks.82 H. Ki eipcgye` hs h jgrrespgm`emt agr HLJ8; Mews, wbkjb ks gwme` ly @ksmey. X. Bgw cgmf bhve ygu leem phk` hs h


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80 X. L[ I\. IEZE\EHU4 Ir. Lhsbkr, `k` ygu85 request tbht Ikjbhec Dhjosgm lrkmf Ihjhucey Jucokm81 sg ygu jguc` akci bki ht Meverchm`.86 I\. LGUP\GUZ4 Zhie gldejtkgm um`er tbe

82 sbkec` chw hm` tbe Akrst Hiem`iemt, [gur Bgmgr.Hm`8; leygm` tbe sjgpe ga `krejt. PBE JGU\P4 Zusthkme` gm leygm` tbe sjgpe.


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85 questkgm.81 Vguc` ygu reh` lhjo bks hmswer hs ahr hs ygu86 fgt kt. Bks questkgm.82 (\ejgr` reh`.)8; PBE JGU\P4 Ks tbht tbe jgipcete questkgm.

I\. IEZE\EHU4 [es.


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8; I\. IEZE\EHU4 K tbkmo were `ksjusskmf hutbemtkjhtkgm, [gur Bgmgr.


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: jhm le hjjurhte, skr.0 X. [gu jhm thoe ygur tkie.5 H. Pbhmo ygu.1 Hs ahr hs iy rejgccejtkgm fges, K rejhcc6 `ksjusskmf tbe ihtter wktb iy httgrmey.

2 X. Cet ie sthte tbe questkgm hfhkm, lejhuse ygu; ihy mgt bhve um`erstgg` kt. [gu cehrme` ygu bh`8> rejekve` h sulpgemh wbem.88 H. Ht tbe lefkmmkmf ga tbks yehr.8< X. Zkmje ygu cehrme` ygu bh` rejekve` h8: sulpgemh, bhve ygu ever `ksjusse` tbe ahjt tbhtygu80 were fgkmf tg le h wktmess wktb hmygme gtber tbhm

85 ygur httgrmey.81 I\. LGUP\GUZ4 [gur Bgmgr, Ki fgkmf tg86 gldejt. Pbhts h `kaaeremt questkgm tbhm `ksjusskmf82 wbht be whs fgkmf tg shy. Ki mgt sure bgw be jguc`8; `ksjuss wbht be whs fgkmf tg shy leagre tbe trkhc. I\. IEZE\EHU4 Gldejtkgm, [gur Bgmgr. Pbese


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2 (\ejgr` reh`.); PBE VKPMEZZ4 K `ksjusse` tbe ihtter wktb iy8> httgrmey, skr.88 I\. IEZE\EHU4 [gur Bgmgr, jguc` K hso tbht8< tbe wktmess le gr`ere` tg respgm` tg tbe questkg

m.8: PBE JGU\P4 [gu bhvemt qukte hmswere` kt.80 PBE VKPMEZZ4 K um`ersthm`, [gur Bgmgr. Pbe85 `kaakjucty ks K whmt tg le jgipcetecy hjjurhte km iy81 hmswers, umequkvgjhc hm` jcehr. Hm` wbht K omgwagr86 jerthkm ks tbht K bhve `ksjusse` tbe ihtter wktbiy

82 httgrmey.8; PBE JGU\P4 Hm` mg gme ecse. PBE VKPMEZZ4 Ki pretty sure tbhts tbe


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88 fgkmf tg bhve tbe questkgm reh` lhjo. Vbemever8< tberes hm hrfuiemt ckoe tbht --8: PBE VKPMEZZ4 Pbhmo ygu.80 PBE JGU\P4 -- we cgse tbe questkgm.85 (\ejgr` reh`.)

81 PBE VKPMEZZ4 Pbe ahjt ga iy sulpgemh, skr,86 whs pulcksbe` km vhrkgus agris ga ie`kh, sg tbht

82 everylg`y omew tbht K bh` leem sulpgemhe` hs h8; resuct ga tbht. Kt ks pgssklce tbht `urkmf iy wgro agr HLJ, K ihy bhve iemtkgme` tbht K bh` leem


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tg80 le h wktmess km tbks jhse.85 H. Zkr, wbht K shk` whs, tbht mews ga tbe81 sulpgemh whs pulcksbe` lrgh`cy hm` wk`e,86 kmtermhtkgmhccy. Hm` hs K returme` tg iy jgre th

so82 ht HLJ Mews, K ihy bhve iemtkgme` tbe ahjt tbhtK8; bh` rejekve` h sulpgemh. X. Hre ygu tecckmf tbks dury tbht ygu `gmt


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86 X. Ir. Lhsbkr, pcehse tecc us ka ygu `gmt82 um`ersthm` tbe questkgm. Gohy.8; H. Pbhmo ygu. X. @g ygu rejhcc ever tecckmf hmy dgurmhckst


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8 PBE JGU\P4 Pbe Jgurt wkcc susthkm tbe< gldejtkgm agr hilkfukty.

: X. L[ I\. IEZE\EHU4 Ir. Lhsbkr, tg glthkm hm0 kmtervkew wktb Ir. Dhjosgm, ygu tgc` bki ygu wereh5 arkem` ga ^rkmjess @khmh, jgrrejt.1 I\. LGUP\GUZ4 Zhie gldejtkgms, [gur Bgmgr.6 PBE JGU\P4 Pbe gldejtkgm lekmf, wbem ygu shy2 shie gldejtkgm --; I\. LGUP\GUZ4 Akrst, kiperikssklce ceh`kmf8> questkgm? leygm` tbe sjgpe ga tbe `krejt eckjkte

` ly88 tbe @kstrkjt Httgrmey. Km h``ktkgm, kt seeos8< umpulcksbe` kmagrihtkgm jgmmejte` tg mews fhtberkmf8: prephre` hm` fhkme` `urkmf mews fhtberkmf.80 Jgmvershtkgms wktb tbe sgurje ks mews fhtberkmf.Zg85 K wguc` kmvgoe tbe Jhckagrmkh sbkec` chw hm` tbe

81 Akrst Hiem`iemt.

86 PBE JGU\P4 Beres tbe prglcei, Ir. Ieserehu482 [gure lhjo tg tbe femerhc questkgm gm tbe wbgce

8; thpe, tbe wbgce tbkmf. Hm` iy prkgr sthteiemt tbht tbe questkgm whs hilkfugus ks tbht be `gesmt omgw


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8 weve dust seem, Ir. Dhjosgm ihè sthteiemts tg tbe< eaaejt tbht mgtbkmf sexuhc whs fgkmf gm km bks le`,

: jgrrejt.0 H. Jgrrejt.5 X. Pg glthkm tbe kmtervkew ygu bh` wktb Ir.1 Dhjosgm wbem be ihè tbht sthteiemt, ygu tgc` bki

6 tbht be whs umèrhpprejkhte`, true.2 I\. LGUP\GUZ4 Gldejtkgm, [gur Bgmgr, gm tbe; sbkec` chw frgum`s hm` Akrst Hiemìemt frgum`s,8> umpulcksbe` kmagrihtkgm, hm` tbe thpe tbht tbe d

ury88 bhs seem spehos agr ktseca.8< PBE JGU\P4 Hcc rkfbt. Pbe gldejtkgm ks8: gverruce`.80 @g ygu wksb tg hmswer tbht questkgm.85 PBE VKPMEZZ4 Ki sthm`kmf gm tbe lrghèst81 prkvkcefe hm` tbe sbkec` chw, [gur Bgmgr.86 I\. IEZE\EHU4 Gldejtkgm mgte`, [gur Bgmgr.82 PBE JGU\P4 [es.8; I\. IEZE\EHU4 Pbhmo ygu.

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0 X. L[ I\. IEZE\EHU4 Ir. Lhsbkr, gm tbe sbgw we5 dust shw km tbks jgurtrggi, Ir. Dhjosgm shys tbht

1 mgtbkmf sexuhc fges gm km bks le`rggi.6 Pg glthkm tbht sthteiemt argi Ir. Dhjosgm,

2 ygu tgc` bki tbht wbem ygu cggoe` ht bks; rechtkgmsbkp wktb jbkc`rem, kt hcigst ih`e ygu weep,8> jgrrejt.88 I\. LGUP\GUZ4 Zhie gldejtkgms, [gur Bgmgr.8< Jhckagrmkh sbkec` chw hm` tbe Akrst Hiem`iemt. Hm`8: K gldejt tg tbht questkgm hs lekmf hilkfugus hs80 wecc, tbe akrst pbrhse, tg glthkm tbht sthteiem

t.85 Gldejt tg tbht.81 PBE JGU\P4 Pbe gldejtkgm ks gverruce`.86 @g ygu wksb tg hmswer tbht.82 PBE VKPMEZZ4 K `gmt, [gur Bgmgr.8; I\. IEZE\EHU4 Gldejtkgm mgte`, [gur Bgmgr. PBE JGU\P4 [es.


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; Pg glthkm tbht sthteiemt, ygu tgc` bki,8> Meverchm` ks hm extrhgr`kmhry, h lrehtbthokmf,h88 stupem`gus, hm exbkchrhtkmf hm` hihzkmf pchje. K

8< jhmt put tgfetber wgr`s tg `esjrkle Meverchm`.

8: Prue.80 I\. LGUP\GUZ4 Zhie gldejtkgms, [gur Bgmgr.85 Akrst Hiem`iemt hm` tbe Jhckagrmkh sbkec` chw.81 PBE JGU\P4 @g ygu wksb tg hmswer tbht86 questkgm.82 PBE VKPMEZZ4 K `gmt, [gur Bgmgr.8; PBE JGU\P4 Mgte`? gldejtkgm mgte`.

I\. IEZE\EHU4 Pbhmo ygu, [gur Bgmgr.


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8< questkgm, hm` hfhkm, rehssert tbe Jhckagrmkh sbkec`8: chws prgtejtkgm ga umpulcksbe` kmagrihtkgm prephre`80 hm` fhtbere` km mews fhtberkmf, hm` tbe Akrst

85 Hiem`iemt.81 PBE JGU\P4 Pbe gldejtkgms gverruce`.86 @g ygu wksb tg hmswer.82 PBE VKPMEZZ4 K `gmt, [gur Bgmgr.8; X. L[ I\. IEZE\EHU4 Ir. Lhsbkr, tg glthkm Ikjbhec Dhjosgms sthteiemt tbht mgtbkmf sexuhcfges


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81 X. Ir. Lhsbkr, tg glthkm Ir. Dhjosgms86 sthteiemt tbht mgtbkmf sexuhc ever wemt gm km bks82 le`rggi wktb jbkc`rem, ygu tgc` bki tbht ygu bh`

8; freht h`ikrhtkgm agr bks vksktkmf skjo jbkc`remkm bgspkthcs km Emfchm`, true.


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86 hre mgt fgkmf tg respgm` tg hmy sujb questkgms.82 H. Ki --8; I\. LGUP\GUZ4 Dust tg ihoe jcehr, bes `gkmf sg lhse` gm iy hssertkgms ga tbe Jhckagrmk

h


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8 @kstrkjt Httgrmeys Gaakje trke` tg fet -- exjuse

< ie, tg jgiiumkjhte wktb hmy represemthtkves -- hmy: represemthtkve ga ygurs refhr`kmf ygur testkigmykm0 tbks jhse.5 I\. LGUP\GUZ4 [gur Bgmgr, K wkcc gldejt, tg1 tbe extemt tbht jhccs agr tbe httgrmey-jckemt6 jgiiumkjhtkgm gr httgrmey wgro prg`ujt.2 PBE JGU\P4 Zusthkme`.

; X. L[ I\. IEZE\EHU4 Ir. Lhsbkr, bhve ygu8> `ksjusse` ygur testkigmy tg`hy wktb hmy88 represemthtkve ga tbe Zhmth Lhrlhrh Zberkaas8< Gaakje.8: H. K bhve mgt, skr.80 X. Bhve ygu prgvk`e` hmy sthteiemts tg hmygme85 hssgjkhte` wktb tbe prgsejutkgm.81 H. K bhve mgt, skr.86 X. Higmf tbe dgurmhcksts ygu hssgjkhte wktb ht82 HLJ, bhve ygu ever `ksjusse` wktb hmy ga tbei wb

ht8; ygu were fgkmf tg shy km tbks jgurtrggi. H. K `gmt leckeve sg.


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< I\. LGUP\GUZ4 K tbkmo be hsoe` tbks: questkgm ihmy tkies, ka Ki behrkmf kt jgrrejtcy.

0 PBE JGU\P4 K tbkmo -- K tbkmo kts h ckttce5 `kaaeremt, lut cet ie cggo.

1 I\. LGUP\GUZ4 Gohy.6 PBE JGU\P4 Gverruce`. [gu ihy hmswer, lut2 Kcc bhve tbe questkgm reh` lhjo. Kts leem h; wbkce.8> (\ejgr` reh`.)88 PBE VKPMEZZ4 Hs ahr hs K jhm rejgccejt, K8< `gmt tbkmo K `ksjusse` wbht K whs fgkmf tg shykm8: tbks jgurtrggi, skr.

80 X. L[ I\. IEZE\EHU4 [gu use` tbe wgr`s hs ahr85 hs K jhm rejgccejt. Ks tbht jgrrejt.81 H. [es.86 X. Hre ygu shykmf ygu bhve mg presemt82 rejgccejtkgm ga ever spehokmf wktb hmy dgurmhckst8; hlgut wbht ygu were fgkmf tg shy km tbks jgurtrggi. H. Pbhts jgrrejt, skr.


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1 X. Gohy. Bhve ygu ever spgoem tg @kstrkjt6 Httgrmey Pbgihs Zme``gm.2 H. Mever.; X. Mever shk` beccg tg bki.8> H. K tbkmo K ihy bhve shk` beccg tg bki tg`hy.

88 X. Vbem ygu hrrkve` ht jgurt tbks igrmkmf, were8< ygu thoem tg hmy gaakje hssgjkhte` wktb tbe @kstrkjt8: Httgrmey.80 H. K whs thoem -- K whs thoem tg hm gaakje. K85 `gmt omgw ka kt whs tbe @kstrkjt Httgrmeys Gaakje,81 lut K whs thoem wktb iy httgrmeys tg hm gaakje wbere

86 we whkte`, lejhuse ygu were km sesskgm tbks igrmkmf.82 Zg we were whktkmf.8; X. Hm` wbem ygu fgt bere tg`hy, `k` ygu ieet hmygme argi tbe @kstrkjt Httgrmeys Gaakje.


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; H. K `k`, skr.8> X. Gohy. Bhve ygu ever spgoem tg hmy ga tbei88 gm tbe tecepbgme.8< H. Mgt tbe prgsejutgrs, mg.8: X. Gohy. Bgw hlgut tbe sberkaas.

80 H. K rejekve` h pbgme jhcc argi h pgckje85 gaakjer sgietkie hfg.81 X. Vbg whs tbht.86 H. @etejtkve ^huc Tecks.82 X. @k` ygu speho tg bki gm tbe tecepbgme.8; H. K `k`, skr. X. Hm` hpprgxkihtecy wbem `k` ygu speho tg


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82 kssue, [gur Bgmgr.8; PBE JGU\P4 Pg tbe extemt kt ks, Kcc susthkm tbe gldejtkgm.


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5 kmagrihtkgm gm tbe Kmtermet. Hcsg tg becp pegpce1 prgùje prgfrhiikmf.6 X. Ht sgietkie prkgr tg -- wecc, ihyle ht tbe2 shie tkie. Ht sgie pgkmt prevkguscy, were ygu tbe

; preskèmt ga hm grfhmkzhtkgm jhcce` Fhlrkec Ie`kh.8> H. [es, tbhts jgrrejt.88 X. Vbht whs Fhlrkec Ie`kh.8< H. Fhlrkec Ie`kh whs h pulckj rechtkgms akri8: hm` h ihroetkmf akri.80 X. Hm` wbht whs ygur rgce km Fhlrkec Ie`kh.85 H. Pg becp pegpce hm` prgùjts fet tbekr81 kmagrihtkgm gut tg tbe pulckj.

86 X. Lhskjhccy ^\.82 H. [es.8; X. ûlckj rechtkgms. H. [es.


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e gm88 tbht agr ie h ckttce lkt.8< H. Jerthkmcy. Kve bh` h muiler ga `kaaeremt8: jckemts. Agr exhipce, K wemt tbrgufb h perkg` wbere

80 K `k` h cgt ga tbkmfs wktb tejbmgcgfy, bkfb85 tejbmgcgfy. Jgmsuier prgùjts? lgtb Zgmy hm` DQJ,81 ^hmhsgmkj. Pbgse types ga tbkmfs.86 Pbem K hcsg wgroe` wktb sgie pegpce wbg82 ikfbt le jgmskère` persgmhcktkes, wbere K becpe`8; tbei tg èakme tbekr kihfe tg tbe pulckj. K becpe`

tbei ka tbey fgt kmtg h `kaakjuct pgsktkgm wktb


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8> Hm` sg jrksks ihmhfeiemt ks tbe - agr chjo88 ga h letter teri - tbe `kaakjuct phrt ga pulckj8< rechtkgms, tbe `kaakjuct phrt ga trykmf tg becp8: sgiegme presemt tbeisecves gr tbekr prg`ujt tg tbe

80 pulckj.85 X. Vbht `g ygu iehm wbem ygu shy tbe hssets ga81 h jckemt.86 H. Vecc, hmy jckemt gr hmy prg`ujt bhs hssets,82 tbe tbkmfs tbht hre fgg` hlgut tbei, tbe tbkmf tbht8; tbe pulckj perjekves fgg` hlgut tbei. X. Km femerhc teris, jhm ygu tecc ie wbht tbe


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85 I\. HUJBKMJCGZZ4 Hcc rkfbt.81 X. @g ygu omgw hm km`kvkùhc ly tbe mhie ga86 @hvk` CeFrhm`.82 H. [es, K `g.8; X. Is. Okte -- Is. Okte, K sbgw ygu êgpces

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< agum`htkgm.: PBE JGU\P4 Agum`htkgms susthkme`.0 I\. HUJBKMJCGZZ4 Hcc rkfbt.5 X. Ht sgie pgkmt, `k` @hvk` CeFrhm` rejrukt ygu1 tg fg tg wgro agr Ikjbhec Dhjosgm.

6 H. [es, be `k`.2 I\. IEZE\EHU4 Gldejtkgm. Ceh`kmf.; PBE JGU\P4 Zusthkme`.8> I\. HUJBKMJCGZZ4 K jhm repbrhse.88 X. Ht sgie tkie `k` Ir. CeFrhm` hso tg eipcgy8< ygu, tg jgie wgro agr Ikjbhec Dhjosgm.8: I\. IEZE\EHU4 Gldejtkgm. Behrshy.80 PBE JGU\P4 Gverruce`.85 [gu ihy hmswer.

81 PBE VKPMEZZ4 [es, be `k`.86 X. L[ I\. HUJBKMJCGZZ4 Hcc rkfbt. Hm` wbem82 whs tbht.8; H. Ht tbe em` ga Dhmuhry ga >:. X. Hm` `k` ygu fg tg wgro agr Ikjbhec Dhjosgm.


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88 evk`emje.8< PBE JGU\P4 Pbe prehilce tg tbe questkgm.8: I\. IEZE\EHU4 [es, [gur Bgmgr.80 PBE JGU\P4 Zusthkme`.85 X. L[ I\. HUJBKMJCGZZ4 Vbht were ygu bkre` tg

81 `g.86 H. Pg becp wktb kihfe ihmhfeiemt.82 X. Gohy. Hm` whs tbere h spejkakj rehsgm wby8; Ikjbhec Dhjosgms kihfe mee`e` tg le ihmhfe`. I\. IEZE\EHU4 Gldejtkgm. Agum`htkgm.


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`k` Ir. CeFrhm` tecc ygu ygur `utkes were.


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5 X. Vbg `k` ygu repgrt tg. Vbg `k` ygu repgrt1 tg km teris ga tbe bkerhrjby ga tbks tehi.6 H. Vecc, K spgoe tg @hvk`. K spgoe tg Ihrj2 Zjbhaaec. K spgoe tg Ir. Ferhfgs. Hm` K spgoe tg; \gmhc`.

8> X. Zg wguc` kt le ahkr tg shy, ygu repgrte` tg88 hcc ga tbgse agur km`kvkùhcs.8< H. [es, ht `kaaeremt tkies.8: X. Hm` Ir. Ogmktzer, `k` ygu bhve hm80 umèrsthm`kmf ga wbht bks aumjtkgm whs km rechtkgm85 tg Ikjbhec Dhjosgm.81 H. K umèrstgg` tbht Ir. Ogmktzer whs tbe86 ceh` --

82 I\. IEZE\EHU4 Gldejtkgm. Ceh`kmf? hm`8; agum`htkgm. PBE JGU\P4 Agum`htkgm? susthkme`.


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80 X. L[ I\. HUJBKMJCGZZ4 Gohy. @k` ygu hcsg85 lhse kt gm kmagrihtkgm tbht ygu glthkme` km tbe81 jgurse ga jgmverskmf wktb Ir. Ogmktzer.86 H. [es, K `k`.82 X. Hm` Ir. Zjbhaaec.

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