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Sargent's Court Reporting Service, Inc. (814) 536-8908 COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA * * * * * * * * * PENN HILLS COUNCIL MEETING * * * * * * * * * BEFORE: SARA J. KUHN, Mayor CATHERINE SAPP, Deputy Mayor (via telephone) SCOTT ANDREJCHAK, Councilman GARY UNDERWOOD, Councilman JOHN PETRUCCI, Councilman MAUREEN SORCE, Municipal Manager's Secretary CRAIG ALEXANDER, Solicitor HEARING: Thursday, August 29, 2019 10:00 a.m. LOCATION: Penn Hills Municipal Building 102 Duff Road Penn Hills, PA 15235 Any reproduction of this transcript is prohibited without authorization by the certifying agency

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C O M M O N W E A L T H O F P E N N S Y L V A N I A

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P E N N H I L L S C O U N C I L M E E T I N G

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B E F O R E : S A R A J . K U H N , M a y o r

C A T H E R I N E S A P P , D e p u t y M a y o r

( v i a t e l e p h o n e )

S C O T T A N D R E J C H A K ,

C o u n c i l m a n

G A R Y U N D E R W O O D , C o u n c i l m a n

J O H N P E T R U C C I , C o u n c i l m a n

M A U R E E N S O R C E , M u n i c i p a l

M a n a g e r ' s S e c r e t a r y

C R A I G A L E X A N D E R , S o l i c i t o r

H E A R I N G : T h u r s d a y , A u g u s t 2 9 , 2 0 1 9

1 0 : 0 0 a . m .

L O C A T I O N : P e n n H i l l s M u n i c i p a l

B u i l d i n g

1 0 2 D u f f R o a d

P e n n H i l l s , P A 1 5 2 3 5

A n y r e p r o d u c t i o n o f t h i s t r a n s c r i p t

i s p r o h i b i t e d w i t h o u t a u t h o r i z a t i o n

b y t h e c e r t i f y i n g a g e n c y

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W I T N E S S E S : J o h n P e t r u c c i , P a u l i n e

C a l a b r e s e , L e o n a r d H a m m o n d s , R i t a

D ' A n d r e a , M r . F e l i x , D e n i s e G r a h a m -

S h e a l e y , W y n o n a H a r p e r , G r e g S w a t c h i c k ,

J e r r y C h i a p p i n e l l i , C r a i g A l e x a n d e r

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I N D E X 1

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O P E N I N G R E M A R K S 3

B y M a y o r K u h n 6 - 1 1 4

T E S T I M O N Y 5

B y M a y o r K u h n 1 1 - 4 2 6

T E S T I M O N Y 7

B y M r . P e t r u c c i 4 2 - 4 4 8

T E S T I M O N Y 9

B y M s . C a l a b r e s e 4 5 - 4 8 10

T E S T I M O N Y 11

B y M r . H a m m o n d s 4 8 - 5 1 12

T E S T I M O N Y 13

B y M s . D ' A n d r e a 5 1 - 5 2 14

T E S T I M O N Y 15

B y M r . F e l i x 5 2 - 5 6 16

T E S T I M O N Y 17

B y M s . G r a h a m - S h e a l e y 5 6 - 5 8 18

T E S T I M O N Y 19

B y M s . H a r p e r 5 8 - 5 9 20

T E S T I M O N Y 21

B y M r . S w a t c h i c k 6 0 - 6 3 22

T E S T I M O N Y 23

B y M r . C h i a p p i n e l l i 6 3 - 6 9 24

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I N D E X ( c o n t i n u e d ) 1

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T E S T I M O N Y 3

B y M a y o r K u h n 6 9 - 7 6 4

D I S C U S S I O N A M O N G P A R T I E S 7 6 - 8 1 5

T E S T I M O N Y 6

B y M r . A l e x a n d e r 8 1 - 8 5 7

D I S C U S S I O N A M O N G P A R T I E S 8 5 - 1 0 2 8

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E X H I B I T S 1

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P a g e 3

N u m b e r D e s c r i p t i o n O f f e r e d 4

N O N E O F F E R E D 5

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P R O C E E D I N G S 1

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 2

M A Y O R K U H N : 3

G o o d m o r n i n g , e v e r y o n e . 4

T h a n k y o u f o r c o m i n g o u t f o r t h i s 5

s p e c i a l m e e t i n g . I d o w a n t t o e x p l a i n 6

s o m e o f t h e p o l i c i e s o f t h e M a y o r a n d 7

C o u n c i l . W e h a d a n e x e c u t i v e s e s s i o n 8

o n S a t u r d a y p e r t a i n i n g t o c r i m i n a l 9

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s . A n d i t w a s p r o p e r l y 10

a d v e r t i s e d , a n d w e h a v e f o l l o w e d a l l o f 11

t h e p a r t i c u l a r s t h a t n e e d t o b e d o n e a s 12

f a r a s n o t o n l y t h e H o m e R u l e c h a r t e r 13

o f t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y , b u t a l s o t h e 14

P e n n s y l v a n i a S t a t e R u l e s a n d 15

R e g u l a t i o n s a l s o . 16

N o w , I d o w a n t t o s a y 17

t h a t w e w i l l - - - I w i l l p r e s e n t t h e 18

r e s o l u t i o n , t h e - - - w h a t a r e t h e s e 19

c a l l e d ? T h e y ' r e n o t r e s o l u t i o n s . 20

C O U N C I L M E M B E R : 21

R e s o l u t i o n s . 22

M A Y O R K U H N : 23

T h e r e s o l u t i o n s t h a t a r e 24

i n p l a c e . I w i l l g i v e a n e x p l a n a t i o n 25

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a n d p r e s e n t f o r t h e r e c o r d a l l o f t h e 1

i n f o r m a t i o n t h a t M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l h a s 2

s o t h e r e ' s n o q u e s t i o n o f t r a n s p a r e n c y . 3

A n d t h e n a f t e r I a m d o n e 4

p r e s e n t i n g t h a t , a s a l w a y s , t h e 5

a u d i e n c e w i l l b e a s k e d t o c o m e u p a n d 6

p r e s e n t t h e i r c o m m e n t s , b u t u n d e r t h e 7

S u n s h i n e A c t , y o u h a v e t o r e m e m b e r t h a t 8

y o u a r e o n l y t o s p e a k o n t h e a g e n d a 9

i t e m s , n u m b e r o n e . A n d n u m b e r t o , y o u 10

a r e n o t p e r m i t t e d t o m a k e d e r o g a t o r y , 11

h a r m f u l c o m m e n t s a b o u t a n y o n e i n a n y 12

w a y . I f y o u d o , I w i l l h a v e y o u 13

r e m o v e d f r o m t h e b u i l d i n g . 14

S o j u s t t o m a k e t h a t 15

c l e a r , y o u c a n b r i n g u p a n y t h i n g y o u 16

w a n t t h a t i s o n t h e a g e n d a a s s t a t e d i n 17

t h e S u n s h i n e A c t , b u t y o u a r e n o t 18

p e r m i t t e d t o m a k e p e r s o n a l a t t a c k s o n 19

s o m e o n e . I f y o u d o , t h e r e ' s n o t g o i n g 20

t o b e I ' l l g i v e y o u a n o t h e r c h a n c e 21

b e c a u s e I ' v e a l r e a d y p r e s e n t e d i t a t 22

t h e b e g i n n i n g o f t h e m e e t i n g . 23

T h e a g e n d a w i l l s t a n d a s 24

p r e s e n t e d . A n d m a y w e a l l s t a n d f o r 25

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t h e P l e d g e o f A l l e g i a n c e . 1

- - - 2

( W H E R E U P O N , T H E P L E D G E O F A L L E G I A N C E 3

W A S R E C I T E D . ) 4

- - - 5

M A Y O R K U H N : 6

R o l l c a l l ? 7

M S . S O R C E : 8

M r . B r o d n i c k i ? 9

M A Y O R K U H N : 10

I j u s t w a n t t o s t a t e t h a t 11

M r . B r o d n i c k i h a d c a l l e d a n d h e i s a t 12

w o r k a n d w a s u n a b l e t o t a k e o f f . A n d 13

D e p u t y M a y o r C a t h y S a p p - - - 14

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 15

S h e ' s o n t h e p h o n e . 16

M A Y O R K U H N : 17

- - - i s t r a v e l i n g . 18

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 19

S h e ' s b y p h o n e . 20

M A Y O R K U H N : 21

S h e ' s o n ? 22

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 23

I h a v e - - - y e a h , I h a v e 24

C a t h y b y p h o n e . 25

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M A Y O R K U H N : 1

H e l l o , D e p u t y M a y o r . C a n 2

y o u h e a r m e ? 3

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 4

Y e s . H e l l o , M a y o r . 5

M A Y O R K U H N : 6

O k a y . H e r e w e g o . 7

M S . S O R C E : 8

O k a y . 9

M A Y O R K U H N : 10

O k a y . S o g o a h e a d , 11

h o n e y . I - - - . 12

M A Y O R K U H N : 13

T h a t ' s w h y M r . 14

B r o d n i c k i ' s n o t h e r e . 15

M S . S O R C E : 16

O k a y . 17

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 18

S h e ' s p r e s e n t . 19

M S . S O R C E : 20

S h e ' s - - - . O k a y . M r . 21

U n d e r w o o d ? 22

M R . U N D E R W O O D : 23

H e r e . 24

M S . S O R C E : 25

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M r . P e t r u c c i ? 1

M R . P E T R U C C I : 2

H e r e . 3

M S . S O R C E : 4

M a y o r K u h n ? 5

M A Y O R K U H N : 6

H e r e . D i d s h e c a l l 7

C a t h y ? 8

M S . S O R C E : 9

Y e a h , I d i d . 10

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 11

C a t h y ' s o n t h e p h o n e 12

r i g h t t h e r e . 13

M A Y O R K U H N : 14

N o , b u t I m e a n - - - . 15

M S . S O R C E : 16

I d i d . 17

M A Y O R K U H N : 18

Y o u h a v e h e r ? 19

M S . S O R C E : 20

Y e a h . 21

M A Y O R K U H N : 22

O k a y . 23

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 24

C a t h y , w e c a l l e d r o l l 25

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c a l l f o r - - - w i t h y o u r n a m e . 1

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 2

O h , o k a y . P r e s e n t . 3

M A Y O R K U H N : 4

O k a y . T h e f i r s t i t e m 5

t h a t w e ' r e g o i n g t o d i s c u s s i s 6

d i s c u s s i o n o f b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k 7

r e q u i r e m e n t s a n d o f R e s o l u t i o n 2 0 1 8 - 6 7 . 8

T h i s w i l l b e p u t i n t o t h e r e c o r d , s o i t 9

w i l l b e p u b l i c i n f o r m a t i o n f o r a n y o n e 10

w h o w o u l d l i k e t o h a v e i t . 11

I t b e g a n D e c e m b e r 3 r d , 12

2 0 1 8 w h e n C o u n c i l m a n P e t r u c c i h a d s e n t 13

a l e t t e r t o M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l a n d t h e 14

m a n a g e r . B e i n g t h a t i t ' s o u r d u t y t o 15

a p p o i n t P e n n H i l l s c i t i z e n s t o 16

d i f f e r e n t b o a r d s w e h a v e i n o u r 17

m u n i c i p a l i t y , I w o u l d l i k e t o p r o p o s e a 18

c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s h o u l d b e 19

c o m p l e t e d o n a n y p e r s o n t a k i n g o r 20

p r e s e n t l y s i t t i n g o n a n y b o a r d w i t h i n 21

o u r m u n i c i p a l i t y . T h i s w i l l e n s u r e 22

t h a t w e h a v e u p s t a n d i n g c i t i z e n s i n o u r 23

l e a d e r s h i p r o l e . N o w , t h a t w a s 24

D e c e m b e r 3 r d o f 2 0 1 8 . 25

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D e c e m b e r 2 8 t h o f 2 0 1 8 , 1

t h e r e w a s a s p e c i a l m e e t i n g a n d b u d g e t 2

a d o p t i o n . A t t h a t t i m e , t h e a g e n d a w a s 3

p u b l i c i z e d , i t w a s a d v e r t i s e d . A n y o n e 4

c o u l d r e a d i t a n d a n y o n e c o u l d a t t e n d 5

a n d g i v e a n y c o m m e n t s t h a t t h e y s o 6

c h o o s e t o d o . 7

U n d e r r e s o l u t i o n s , 8

r e q u i r i n g a p p l i c a n t s f o r a l l m u n i c i p a l 9

b o a r d s , c o m m i s s i o n s a n d c o m m i t t e e s 10

s u b m i t t o a c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k 11

b e f o r e c o n s i d e r a t i o n a n d a p p o i n t m e n t b y 12

t h e M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l , a u t h o r i z i n g t h e 13

m u n i c i p a l m a n a g e r t o d e v e l o p r u l e s a n d 14

r e g u l a t i o n s f o r M u n i c i p a l B o a r d 15

a p p l i c a n t s a n d t h o s e s e a t e d . T h i s w a s 16

t h e r e s o l u t i o n , a n d a s I s a i d , d e v e l o p 17

r u l e s a n d r e g u l a t i o n s f o r a p p l i c a n t s , 18

a n d I ' m s o r r y , a n d c u r r e n t a p p o i n t e e s . 19

S o t h i s w a s a d v e r t i s e d . 20

I t w a s a p u b l i c m e e t i n g . A n y o n e w h o 21

w a s t r u l y i n t e r e s t e d i n t h e r u n n i n g o f 22

t h e i r g o v e r n m e n t h a d t h e o p p o r t u n i t y t o 23

c o m e t o t h a t m e e t i n g a n d e x p r e s s a n y 24

c o n c e r n s o r g i v e a n y i n f o r m a t i o n 25

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r e g a r d i n g t h i s r e s o l u t i o n . 1

I w i l l r e a d t h e m i n u t e s 2

o f D e c e m b e r 2 8 t h , 2 0 1 8 . M r . B r o d n i c k i 3

m a d e a m o t i o n t o a p p r o v e R e s o l u t i o n 4

N u m b e r 2 0 1 8 - 0 6 7 , r e q u i r i n g a p p l i c a n t s 5

f o r a l l m u n i c i p a l b o a r d s , c o m m i s s i o n s , 6

a n d c o m m i t t e e s s u b m i t t o a c r i m i n a l 7

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k b e f o r e c o n s i d e r a t i o n 8

a n d a p p o i n t m e n t b y M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l , 9

a n d a u t h o r i z i n g t h e m u n i c i p a l m a n a g e r 10

t o d e v e l o p r u l e s a n d r e g u l a t i o n s f o r 11

t h e m u n i c i p a l a p p l i c a n t . 12

M r . P e t r u c c i s e c o n d . 13

T h e r e w e r e n o f u r t h e r d i s c u s s i o n . T h e 14

m o t i o n w a s a p p r o v e d t h r e e t o z e r o . 15

M y s e l f a n d C o u n c i l m a n 16

U n d e r w o o d w e r e n o t p r e s e n t a t t h a t 17

m e e t i n g . D e p u t y M a y o r S a p p s a i d j u s t 18

l e t m e g i v e a l i t t l e b i t a b o u t t h i s 19

r e s o l u t i o n b e f o r e a n y o n e w h o e v e r i s 20

s e a t e d a t t h i s t i m e o r i s g o i n g t o b e 21

s e a t e d , w e a r e n o w g o i n g t o b e d o i n g 22

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s t o b e s u r e t h a t 23

e v e r y o n e i s s a f e a n d a b l e t o a c t i n 24

t h a t p o s i t i o n . T h o s e w e r e p u b l i c 25

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s t a t e m e n t s r e g a r d i n g t h e r e s o l u t i o n 1

t h a t w e r e p r e s e n t e d a t s a i d m e e t i n g . 2

A g a i n , t h e r e w a s n o c o m m e n t s o n e w a y o r 3

t h e o t h e r r e g a r d i n g t h a t . 4

A p r i l 3 r d , 2 0 1 9 , f r o m 5

S o l i c i t o r C r a i g A l e x a n d e r . B a c k g r o u n d 6

- - - t h i s i s a m e m o t h a t h e s e n t b y 7

r e q u e s t f r o m M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l . 8

B a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s 9

r e s o l u t i o n . I t i s m y u n d e r s t a n d i n g 10

t h a t t h e r e s o l u t i o n h a s b e e n 11

i m p l e m e n t e d a n d t h a t c u r r e n t a p p o i n t e d 12

o f f i c i a l s h a v e b e e n r e q u e s t e d t o s u b m i t 13

t o a c r i m i n a l h i s t o r y r e p o r t . I t h a s 14

b e e n r e p o r t e d t h e c o m p l i a n c e i s 15

a p p r o x i m a t e l y 6 0 t o 4 0 . T h e q u e s t i o n 16

p o s e d i s w h a t c a n b e d o n e t o t h o s e t h a t 17

r e f u s e t o s u p p l y t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y w i t h 18

t h e r e q u i r e d c r i m i n a l h i s t o r y r e p o r t ? 19

O f f i c i a l s s e r v e a t t h e 20

p l e a s u r e o f t h e g o v e r n i n g b o d y a n d c a n 21

b e r e m o v e d f o r a n y r e a s o n o r n o r e a s o n . 22

A b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k t h a t - - - i f a 23

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k i s n o t p r e s e n t e d , t h a t 24

i n d i v i d u a l c a n b e i m m e d i a t e l y r e m o v e d . 25

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O n t h e o t h e r h a n d , w i t h 1

r e g a r d t o t h e P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n a n d 2

t h e Z o n i n g H e a r i n g B o a r d , t h e s t a t e 3

l e g i s l a t i o n h a s s p e c i f i c a l l y s e t f o r t h 4

t h e c o n d i t i o n s u p o n w h i c h a m e m b e r o f 5

t h e P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n o r Z o n i n g 6

H e a r i n g B o a r d m a y b e r e m o v e d . 7

A m e m b e r o f t h e P l a n n i n g 8

C o m m i s s i o n a n d Z o n i n g H e a r i n g B o a r d m a y 9

o n l y b e r e m o v e d f o r m a l f e a s a n c e , 10

m i s f e a s a n c e , n o n f e a s a n c e o r o t h e r j u s t 11

c a u s e . 12

I t i s m y o p i n i o n t h a t 13

M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l , s h o u l d t h e y c h o o s e 14

t o d o s o , m a y c o n s i d e r a B o a r d m e m b e r ' s 15

r e f u s a l t o s u b m i t t o t h e b a c k g r o u n d 16

c h e c k a s j u s t c a u s e f o r r e m o v a l . I f 17

t h i s M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l d e s i r e s , t h e n a 18

l e t t e r s h o u l d b e i s s u e d t o a n y B o a r d 19

m e m b e r r e f u s i n g t o s u b m i t t o t h e 20

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s s t a t i n g t h a t f a i l u r e 21

t o d o s o i n a c e r t a i n a m o u n t o f t i m e 22

m a y c o n s t i t u t e j u s t c a u s e t o r e m o v e t h e 23

B o a r d m e m b e r f r o m t h e p o s i t i o n . I f t h e 24

p e r s o n r e f u s e s , t h e n M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l 25

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w o u l d n e e d t o v o t e t o r e m o v e t h e 1

m e m b e r . F i l e a n a p p e a l t o t h e C o u r t o f 2

C o m m o n - - - . 3

I s C a t h y t a l k i n g ? 4

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 5

T h e r e ' s s o m e b a c k g r o u n d 6

- - - . 7

M A Y O R K U H N : 8

O h , o k a y . I n d i v i d u a l 9

w o u l d h a v e t h e o p p o r t u n i t y t o f i l e a n 10

a p p e a l t o t h e C o u r t o f C o m m o n P l e a s i n 11

a n e f f o r t t o p e r s u a d e t h e C o u r t t h a t 12

r e f u s i n g t o f o l l o w M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l 13

d i r e c t i v e i s n o t j u s t c a u s e f o r 14

r e m o v a l . W e l l , n o o n e c a n e v e r k n o w 15

w h a t a c o u r t m a y d o o r a n y - - - o n a n y 16

g i v e n i s s u e . I t ' s m y o p i n i o n t h a t 17

M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l h a s t h e b e t t e r 18

a r g u m e n t f o r s u c c e s s o f t h i s i s s u e . 19

J u s t t o c o m m e n t o n t h a t 20

b r i e f l y . W e l l , I ' l l g o i n t o t h a t w i t h 21

h o w m a n y t i m e s i t h a d b e e n s u b m i t t e d t o 22

t h e B o a r d m e m b e r s t o p r e s e n t t h e i r 23

c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k . T h a t w a s o n 24

A p r i l 3 r d . 25

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O n A u g u s t 1 8 t h , t h e r e w a s 1

a n o t h e r m e m o f r o m o u r s o l i c i t o r . M a y o r 2

h a d r e q u e s t e d t h a t I r e s e a r c h t h e i s s u e 3

r e g a r d i n g t h e p e r i m e t e r s o f h a v i n g a 4

p o t e n t i a l c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d a n d 5

s e r v i n g a s a n a p p o i n t e d o f f i c i a l f o r 6

t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y o f P e n n H i l l s . 7

M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l h a s 8

e n a c t e d a r e s o l u t i o n r e q u i r i n g t h a t a l l 9

c u r r e n t a n d p o t e n t i a l a p p o i n t e e s s u b m i t 10

t o a c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k i n a n 11

e f f o r t t o d e t e r m i n e f i t n e s s f o r h o l d i n g 12

t h e p o s i t i o n . 13

W h a t o f f e n s e s w o u l d c a u s e 14

a n a p p o i n t e d o f f i c i a l t o b e 15

d i s q u a l i f i e d ? N o p e r s o n h e r e a f t e r 16

c o n v i c t e d o f e m b e z z l e m e n t o r p u b l i c 17

m o n i e s , b r i b e r y , p e r j u r y o r o t h e r 18

i n f a m o u s c r i m e s s h a l l b e e l i g i b l e t o 19

t h e g e n e r a l a s s e m b l y o r c a p a b l e o f 20

h o l d i n g a n y o f f i c e o r t r u s t i n t h i s 21

C o m m o n w e a l t h . 22

W h a t c o n s t i t u t e s a n 23

i n f a m o u s c r i m e ? T h i s q u e s t i o n h a s b e e n 24

a n s w e r e d t h r o u g h c o u r t s i n v a r i o u s 25

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c a s e s t h r o u g h o u t t h e h i s t o r y . I n f a m o u s 1

o f f e n s e s f o l l o w s t r e a s o n , f e l o n y , e v e r y 2

s p e c i e s o f - - - h o w d o y o u p r o n o u n c e 3

t h a t ? C r i m e n ? 4

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 5

C r i m e n f a l s i . 6

M A Y O R K U H N : 7

O k a y . S u b o r d i n a t i o n o f 8

p e r j u r y , a t a i n t o r f a l s e v e r d i c t , a n d 9

o t h e r o f f e n s e s o f t h e l i k e d e s c r i p t i o n , 10

w h i c h i n v o l v e t h e c h a r g e o f f a l s e h o o d 11

a n d a f f e c t t h e p u b l i c a d m i n i s t r a t i o n o f 12

j u s t i c e . 13

A U D I E N C E M E M B E R : 14

S h e s h o u l d h a v e r e a d 15

t h i s . 16

M A Y O R K U H N : 17

F o l l o w i n g a r e c r i m e s t h a t 18

a l r e a d y p r e c l u d e a n i n d i v i d u a l f r o m 19

h o l d i n g p u b l i c o f f i c e . N u m b e r o n e , a 20

f e l o n y c o n v i c t i o n . T h e r e i s a l s o n o 21

s t a t u t e o f l i m i t a t i o n t h a t w o u l d a l l o w 22

a n i n d i v i d u a l t o r e t a i n h i s o r h e r 23

p u b l i c o f f i c e u p o n a v i o l a t i o n w h e n a 24

v i o l a t i o n i s d i s c o v e r e d . T h e S u p r e m e 25

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C o u r t h a s e x p r e s s e d t h i s a b o u t a n y 1

s t a t u t e o f l i m i t a t i o n o r l a c h e s , 2

a r g u m e n t d u e t o d e l a y i n r e m o v i n g a n 3

i n d i v i d u a l i n v i o l a t i o n o f t h i s 4

p r o v i s i o n , h o l d i n g t h a t t h e h o l d i n g o f 5

p u b l i c o f f i c e i n v o l v e s p u b l i c t r u s t , 6

a n d t h a t t h e p r o h i b i t i o n a g a i n s t t h o s e 7

c o n v i c t e d o f i n f a m o u s c r i m e s f r o m 8

h o l d i n g p u b l i c o f f i c e s i n t h e 9

c o n s t i t u t i o n m a n d a t e d . 10

U n d e r t h e n e w l a w , 11

i n c l u d i n g b o t h f e l o n i e s a n d 12

m i s d e m e a n o r s o f t h e f i r s t d e g r e e , 13

r e s u l t i n b a n s f r o m e m p l o y m e n t b y a 14

s c h o o l d i s t r i c t f o r a p e r i o d o f t i m e . 15

I f M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l c h o o s e t o d o s o , 16

i t c o u l d s i m i l a r l y e x p a n d t h e s c o p e o f 17

c r i m e s t o i n c l u d e a l l m i s d e m e a n o r s o f 18

t h e f i r s t d e g r e e , o r f o r t h a t m a t t e r , 19

w h a t e v e r a d d i t i o n a l c r i m e s M a y o r a n d 20

C o u n c i l b e l i e v e s h o u l d p r e c l u d e s e r v i n g 21

i n a n a p p o i n t e d p o s i t i o n a s o p p o s e d t o 22

j u s t m i s d e m e a n o r s i n v o l v i n g c r i m e s o f 23

f a l s e h o o d o r d e c e p t i o n , v i o l a t i o n s 24

u n d e r t h e P e n n s y l v a n i a C o n s t i t u t i o n . 25

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M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l h a v e 1

c h o s e n t o r e q u i r e c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d 2

c h e c k s t o e n s u r e t h a t m u n i c i p a l 3

a p p o i n t e e s a r e f i t t o h o l d o f f i c e . 4

A d d i t i o n a l c o n c e r n s h a v e b e e n r a i s e d a s 5

t o w h o w o u l d h a v e p o s s e s s i o n a n d 6

c o n t r o l o f t h e d e t a i l s o f t h e c r i m i n a l 7

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k . 8

O n e w a y , p e r h a p s t h e 9

e a s i e s t , t o p r o t e c t a n i n d i v i d u a l ' s 10

p r i v a c y , i f t h e i n d i v i d u a l d o e s n o t 11

w i s h t o p r o v i d e t h e a c t u a l c r i m i n a l 12

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k t o t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y i s 13

t o a l l o w t h e i n d i v i d u a l t o p r o v i d e t h e 14

c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k t o a 15

d e s i g n a t e d m u n i c i p a l e m p l o y e e s u c h a s 16

t h e m a n a g e r o r H R d i r e c t o r . D o c u m e n t s 17

c a n b e r e v i e w e d i n t h e p r e s e n c e o f t h e 18

i n d i v i d u a l t o e n s u r e t h a t t h e 19

i n d i v i d u a l h a s n o f e l o n y c o n v i c t i o n o r 20

c o n v i c t i o n o f c r i m i n a l f a l s e h o o d . 21

I b e l i e v e t h i s s a t i s f i e s 22

M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l ' s o b j e c t i v e w i t h 23

r e g a r d i n g t o r e q u i r i n g c r i m i n a l 24

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s , a s w e l l a s i t s 25

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c o n c e r n f o r p r o t e c t i n g i n d i v i d u a l s ' 1

p r i v a c y a n d u n w a n t e d d i s s e m i n a t i o n o f 2

s a m e . 3

T h i s h a s c o m e f r o m o u r 4

m a n a g e r o n A u g u s t 2 8 t h , 2 0 1 9 . 5

C o m p l i a n c e w i t h R e s o l u t i o n 2 0 1 8 - 0 6 7 . 6

O n J a n u a r y 1 1 t h , 2 0 1 9 , l e t t e r s w e r e 7

s e n t t o a l l B o a r d C o m m i t t e e s a n d 8

C o m m i s s i o n m e m b e r s a p p o i n t e d i n P e n n 9

H i l l s . T h e l e t t e r i n c l u d e d a c o p y o f 10

R e s o l u t i o n 2 0 1 8 - 0 6 7 a n d c o n s e n t f o r m 11

f o r P e n n H i l l s t o c o n d u c t a l i m i t e d 12

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k . T h e d e a d l i n e f o r 13

a p p o i n t e e s w a s F e b r u a r y 1 5 t h , 2 0 1 9 , 14

w e l l o v e r s i x m o n t h s t o c o m p l y . T h e 15

o n e s w h o d i d n o t s u b m i t t h e i r 16

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k n e v e r c o n t a c t e d t h e 17

m a n a g e r o r M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l t o r e q u e s t 18

a m e e t i n g t o e x p l a i n w h y t h e y w e r e 19

r e f u s i n g t o a b i d e b y t h e r e s o l u t i o n 20

t h a t w a s v o t e d o n a n d i n p l a c e . 21

Y o u a l s o h a v e t o 22

r e m e m b e r , P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n a n d 23

Z o n i n g C o m m i s s i o n , t h a t ' s w h y t h e y a r e 24

a n e x c e p t i o n t o t h e r u l e , t h e y a r e i n 25

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c h a r g e o f g i v i n g p e r m i s s i o n t o t h o s e 1

w h o c o m e b e f o r e t h e i r b o a r d . T h e y s i t 2

o n t h a t b o a r d a n d t h e y c a n s a y , w e l l , 3

I ' m s o r r y , b u t y o u r r e q u e s t i s d e n i e d 4

b e c a u s e y o u h a v e n o t f o l l o w e d t h e r u l e s 5

o f t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y o f P e n n H i l l s . 6

S o i t i s v e r y c o n c e r n i n g 7

t h a t a n o t o n l y c o m m i s s i o n e r b u t a 8

c h a i r m a n w h o i s g i v e n t h e p o w e r t o d e n y 9

o r t o a c c e p t a n y p r o p o s a l t h a t c o m e s 10

b e f o r e h i m a n d t h e b o a r d a n d h a s t h e 11

a b i l i t y t o d e n y a n y p r o p o s a l , i f t h e y 12

h a v e n o t c o m p l i e d w i t h t h e r u l e s a n d 13

r e g u l a t i o n s o f t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y o f P e n n 14

H i l l s , a n d y e t w a s g i v e n t h e r e s o l u t i o n 15

a n d t h e r e q u e s t i n J a n u a r y , w a s g i v e n 16

u n t i l m i d - F e b r u a r y t o p r e s e n t i t , w a s 17

s e n t n o t i c e s t h a t w e h a v e n o t r e c e i v e d 18

i t . A n d y e t s i x m o n t h s , s t i l l n o t h i n g . 19

D i d n o t p r e s e n t i t . D i d n o t a s k t o 20

m e e t w i t h t h e m a n a g e r o r M a y o r a n d 21

C o u n c i l t o p r e s e n t a r e a s o n w h y h e i s 22

b l a t a n t l y n o t f o l l o w i n g t h e r u l e s a n d 23

r e g u l a t i o n s o f t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y o f P e n n 24

H i l l s , w h i c h w a s a d v e r t i s e d , a p u b l i c 25

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m e e t i n g h e l d , i n p u t r e q u e s t s a n d v o t e d 1

u p o n , a n d i s i n - - - w h a t w o u l d w e c a l l ? 2

I t ' s i n n o w t h a t t h i s i s a r u l e t h a t i s 3

t o a p p l y t o e v e r y o n e . 4

T h e r e ' s n o s p e c i a l 5

e x c e p t i o n s . A r e s o l u t i o n o f t h e 6

m u n i c i p a l i t y n e e d s t o b e f o l l o w e d . A s 7

I h a v e s a i d m a n y t i m e s p u b l i c l y , i f y o u 8

a r e n o t g o i n g t o e n f o r c e a r e s o l u t i o n , 9

d o n ' t p a s s i t . A n d i f i t ' s p a s s e d , 10

t h e n r e m o v e i t . 11

O k a y . L e t m e s e e h e r e . 12

T h e r e v i e w c o n d u c t e d b y t h e - - - . O h , 13

t h e n a f t e r t h e d e a d l i n e p a s s e d , o k a y , 14

t h e f o r m s a n d i n f o r m a t i o n w e r e r e t u r n e d 15

b y m a i l , i n p e r s o n o r e l e c t r o n i c a l l y t o 16

t h e a d m i n i s t r a t i v e o f f i c e s . T h e f o r m s 17

w e r e r e c e i v e d a n d m a i n t a i n e d i n a 18

f o l d e r i n t h e a d m i n i s t r a t i v e o f f i c e i n 19

a l o c k e d d e s k . A f t e r t h e d e a d l i n e h a d 20

p a s s e d , t h e g a t h e r e d f o r m s w e r e 21

d e l i v e r e d t o P e n n H i l l s P o l i c e 22

D e p a r t m e n t . 23

T h e r e v i e w c o n d u c t e d b y 24

t h e P e n n H i l l s P o l i c e D e p a r t m e n t 25

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i n c l u d e d a c h e c k t h r o u g h t h e P F A D , 1

P e n n s y l v a n i a S e x u a l O f f e n d e r s R e g i s t r y , 2

a n d P e n n s y l v a n i a J u d i c i a r y W e b P o r t a l . 3

T h e P e n n H i l l s P o l i c e D e p a r t m e n t 4

r e t u r n e d b o t h t h e c o n s e n t f o r m s a n d 5

i n c l u d e d a c o v e r s h e e t t h a t n o t e d t h e 6

o u t c o m e o f t h e r e v i e w . 7

O n c e r e c e i v e d , t h e c o v e r 8

s h e e t f r o m t h e P e n n H i l l s P o l i c e 9

D e p a r t m e n t a n d t h e c o n s e n t f o r m w a s 10

m a i n t a i n e d i n a f o l d e r i n a l o c k e d 11

s t o r a g e r o o m . A t n o t i m e d i d e i t h e r 12

t h e d o c u m e n t s l e a v e t h e p o s s e s s i o n o f 13

e i t h e r t h e P e n n H i l l s P o l i c e D e p a r t m e n t 14

o r t h e a d m i n i s t r a t i v e o f f i c e s o f P e n n 15

H i l l s . 16

I f y o u t r u l y d i d n o t 17

s u b m i t b e c a u s e y o u w e r e c o n c e r n e d a b o u t 18

y o u r p e r s o n a l i n f o r m a t i o n , o n c e a g a i n , 19

p r e s e n t t h a t a r g u m e n t t o t h e m a n a g e r 20

a n d M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l . T o a s s u m e i s 21

v e r y d a n g e r o u s . F a c t s a r e w h a t n e e d t o 22

b e d e t e r m i n e d a n d f o l l o w e d . I f t h e r e 23

w a s a c o n c e r n p r e s e n t e d , t h e m a n a g e r 24

w o u l d t h e n e x p l a i n e x a c t l y w h a t I r e a d . 25

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A n d i f y o u h a v e 8 0 p e r c e n t o f p e o p l e 1

w h o t u r n e d i n t h e i r c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d 2

c h e c k , a n d i f y o u l o o k a t s c h o o l 3

d i s t r i c t s , s p o r t s , a n y t h i n g , p e o p l e a r e 4

r e q u i r e d t o p r e s e n t a c r i m i n a l 5

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k . S o I d o n ' t k n o w w h y 6

a n y o n e w o u l d t h i n k t h a t b e c a u s e y o u a r e 7

p a r t i c u l a r p l a n n i n g c o m m i s s i o n e r , t h a t 8

y o u r i n f o r m a t i o n w o u l d b e s p r e a d 9

t h r o u g h o u t t h e l a n d . I f t h a t w a s t h e 10

c a s e , t h e n e v e r y o n e w h o p r e s e n t s a 11

c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s h o u l d h a v e 12

t h e s a m e c o n c e r n s . 13

N o w , w i t h i n t h i s t i m e 14

p e r i o d , M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l h a d 15

d i s c u s s i o n s o n h o w w e c o u l d e n a c t 16

v e r b i a g e i n t o t h e o r d i n a n c e t h a t w o u l d 17

s a t i s f y t h e p r o t e c t i o n o f s o m e o n e ' s 18

p e r s o n a l i n f o r m a t i o n . 19

H o w e v e r , a s I s t a t e d t o 20

M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l , I a m i n a g r e e m e n t . 21

W e c a n e n a c t s o m e t h i n g . T h e c o n c e r n 22

w a s i f y o u w e r e 1 6 o r 1 8 y e a r s o l d a n d 23

w a s c h a r g e d w i t h m a r i j u a n a , w o u l d t h a t 24

b e a b l e t o b e a r e a s o n t h a t w e w o u l d 25

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c o n s i d e r , b u t n o t g u n v i o l e n c e . 1

G u n v i o l e n c e i n t h i s d a y 2

a n d a g e i s n o t a c c e p t a b l e i n a n y w a y , 3

s h a p e o r f o r m . F a m i l i e s d r o p t h e i r 4

c h i l d r e n o f f a t s c h o o l a n d g o t o w o r k 5

a n d r e c e i v e a c a l l t h a t t h e i r c h i l d r e n 6

h a v e b e e n s h o t a n d k i l l e d a t s c h o o l b y 7

g u n v i o l e n c e . I b e l i e v e i t w a s 8

N e w t o w n . T h e s e w e r e b a b i e s w h o p a r e n t s 9

d r o p p e d o f f a n d w e r e k i l l e d b e c a u s e o f 10

g u n v i o l e n c e . 11

Y o u c a n ' t g o t o L . A . 12

F i t n e s s a n d w o r k o u t . Y o u ' r e k i l l e d b y 13

g u n v i o l e n c e . Y o u c a n ' t g o t o a 14

s y n a g o g u e i n P i t t s b u r g h t o p r a y . 15

Y o u ' r e k i l l e d b y g u n v i o l e n c e . Y o u 16

c a n ' t g o t o W a l m a r t t o b u y s u p p l i e s f o r 17

y o u r c h i l d r e n t o g o t o s c h o o l . Y o u ' r e 18

k i l l e d b y g u n v i o l e n c e . 19

I t i s r e a l i t y f o r s o m e 20

u n k n o w n r e a s o n . G u n v i o l e n c e i s s o 21

p r o m i n e n t i n t h e U n i t e d S t a t e s o f 22

A m e r i c a . Y o u l i s t e n t o t e l e v i s i o n 23

a f t e r t h e s e t r a g e d i e s a n d y o u a r e t o l d , 24

b e a w a r e . L o o k a n d s e e i f y o u t h i n k 25

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s o m e o n e i s h a v i n g a n y t y p e o f b e h a v i o r 1

t h a t y o u t h i n k c o u l d p r o m o t e g u n 2

v i o l e n c e . A l l - - - a n y o n e w h o w a n t s t o 3

c o m e u p a n d o b j e c t t o t h i s , t h a t ' s y o u r 4

o p p o r t u n i t y . 5

B u t I w i l l s a y t h i s . I n 6

a l l p r o b a b i l i t y , n o t ' t i l i t ' s t i m e i n 7

a l l p r o b a b i l i t y . G o d f o r b i d i f a n y 8

v i o l e n c e w o u l d h a p p e n , t h e y w o u l d b e 9

t h e s a m e p e o p l e u p h e r e s a y i n g , w e l l , 10

M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l , y o u w e r e a w a r e o f 11

t h e c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k , a n d w h y 12

d i d y o u d o n o t h i n g ? 13

O n J u l y 2 9 t h , 2 0 1 9 , t h e 14

r e q u e s t l e t t e r w a s s e n t t o t h o s e 15

a p p o i n t e e s w h o h a d n o t y e t s u b m i t t e d 16

i n f o r m a t i o n o r c o n s e n t i n a c c o r d a n c e 17

w i t h R e s o l u t i o n 2 0 1 8 - 6 7 . B y m y c o u n t , 18

t h e r e a r e 4 8 a p p o i n t e e s t o B o a r d 19

C o m m i t t e e s a n d C o m m i s s i o n s . A s o f 20

A u g u s t 2 8 t h , t h e r e ' s 8 3 c o m p l i a n c e , 8 3 21

p e r c e n t c o m p l i a n c e . I d o n ' t k n o w w h o 22

t h i n k s t h e y d o n ' t h a v e t o b e u n d e r t h e 23

s a m e r u l e s a s t h e 8 3 p e r c e n t t h a t 24

c o m p l i e d w e r e . 25

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A U D I E N C E M E M B E R : 1

I d o n ' t - - - . 2

M A Y O R K U H N : 3

M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l s p e n t 4

a n e l a b o r a t e a m o u n t o f t i m e t a k i n g i n 5

a l l t h e i n f o r m a t i o n a n d w h a t c o u l d b e 6

d o n e a n d w h a t c o u l d n o t b e d o n e . I n 7

e s s e n c e , t h e n o n c o m p l i a n c e i s w i t h i n 8

i t s e l f a r e a s o n f o r d i s m i s s a l . 9

Y o u c a n s p e a k w h e n I c a l l 10

f o r a p u b l i c s p e a k i n g . 11

W e d i d n o t r e c e i v e a 12

c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k f r o m M r . 13

C h i a p p i n e l l i a s w e r e q u e s t e d . B u t w e 14

r e c e i v e d f r o m a c o n c e r n e d r e s i d e n t a 15

c o p y o f w h i c h , w h i c h i s w h a t p r o m p t e d 16

o u r d e c i s i o n t h a t w e h a d t o m o v e 17

i m m e d i a t e l y b a s e d o n t h e i n f o r m a t i o n . 18

T h i s i s a l l r i g h t t o r e a d 19

i n t o p u b l i c ? 20

M R . A N D R E J A C K : 21

I b e l i e v e i t - - - I h a v e 22

n o t s e e n i t , M a y o r . A n d w e t a l k e d 23

a b o u t i t o n S a t u r d a y , I w a s o n t h e 24

t e l e p h o n e . 25

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M A Y O R K U H N : 1

I t ' s p u b l i c k n o w l e d g e . 2

M R . A N D R E J A C K : 3

I t ' s a p u b l i c r e c o r d . 4

M A Y O R K U H N : 5

B e i n g t h a t t h i s i s p u b l i c 6

r e c o r d , a n d w e h a v e r e s i d e n t s t h a t a r e 7

s o c o n c e r n e d a b o u t p u b l i c r e c o r d s b e i n g 8

p r e s e n t e d s o t h a t M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l 9

d o n ' t h a v e i n f o r m a t i o n t h a t t h e p u b l i c 10

d o e s n ' t , t h i s w o u l d n e v e r b e p r e s e n t e d 11

p u b l i c l y h a d M r . C h i a p p i n e l l i d o n e w h a t 12

t h e m u n i c i p a l r e s o l u t i o n s t a t e d h a d t o 13

b e d o n e . T h e m u n i c i p a l i t y w o r k e d f r o m 14

J a n u a r y u n t i l A u g u s t i n e v e r y a t t e m p t 15

t o m a k e t h e m c o m p l y . A n d a s I s a i d , 16

n o t o n l y d i d n ' t t h e y c o m p l y , t h e y n e v e r 17

a s k e d w h a t c o u l d t h e y d o i f s u c h a n d 18

s u c h w a s o n t h e r e c o r d ? 19

N o w , p e o p l e w i l l s t a t e i t 20

w a s 1 9 7 5 . B u t a s I r e a d i n t h e 21

P e n n s y l v a n i a l a w , t h e r e i s n o s t a t u t e 22

o f l i m i t a t i o n o n t h i s . 23

T h e r e a s o n t h i s i s p u b l i c 24

k n o w l e d g e , b u t a l s o M r . C h i a p p i n e l l i 25

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h i m s e l f h a d s p o k e n t o t h e m e d i a a n d h a d 1

t h e i n f o r m a t i o n p r e s e n t e d t o t h e m e d i a , 2

s o t h e r e f o r e , I d o n o t t h i n k t h a t M a y o r 3

a n d C o u n c i l i s b e i n g h a r d o n r e p o r t i n g 4

t h i s , b e i n g t h a t M r . C h i a p p i n e l l i 5

h i m s e l f d i s c u s s e d i t p u b l i c l y i n t h e 6

n e w s m e d i a . 7

T h i s i s r e g a r d i n g - - - 8

t h i s i s f r o m t h e J u s t i c e o f P e a c e 9

M a g i s t e r i a l D i s t r i c t L e e M a z u r , 10

C o m p l a i n t N u m b e r 1 9 7 5 1 9 8 C - A , t h a t o n 11

o r a b o u t S e p t e m b e r 6 t h , 1 9 7 5 , i n t h e 12

C o u n t y o f A l l e g h e n y , t h e D e f e n d a n t 13

u n l a w f u l l y d i d t h e n a n d t h e r e 14

i n t e n t i o n a l l y , k n o w i n g l y - - - . 15

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 16

S o l i c i t o r , w e o b j e c t . 17

S o l i c i t o r , w e o b j e c t . 18

M A Y O R K U H N : 19

E x c u s e m e , P a u l i n e . D o 20

y o u h a v e a n o b j e c t i o n ? I f y o u d o , y o u 21

c a n s p e a k a f t e r w e a r e d o n e . 22

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 23

I f e e l t h i s i s a n 24

a p p r o p r i a t e t i m e - - - . 25

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M A Y O R K U H N : 1

I f y o u c o u l d c o m e u p , 2

P a u l i n e . I c a n ' t h e a r y o u . A n d s p e a k 3

l o u d l y , p l e a s e . 4

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 5

T h a n k y o u , Y o u r H o n o r . I 6

f e e l t h i s i s a n a p p r o p r i a t e t i m e , 7

b e c a u s e y o u a r e a b o u t t o r e a d i n t o t h e 8

r e c o r d t h a t h a s b e e n r e p o r t e d o n o n 9

- - - . 10

M A Y O R K U H N : 11

W h a t ' s s h e s a y i n g ? 12

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 13

T h e T r i b u n e R e v i e w h a s 14

r e p o r t e d t w o d a y s a g o o n w h a t y o u ' r e 15

a b o u t t o s p e a k a b o u t . A n d a s a 16

t a x p a y i n g c i t i z e n , I t h i n k w e ' r e 17

g e t t i n g a w f u l l y c l o s e t o w h e n y o u t a k e 18

a l o o k a t w h a t y o u ' r e a b o u t t o r e a d 19

b e c a u s e w e - - - y o u ' r e g o i n g - - - y o u ' r e 20

t a l k i n g a b o u t a c r i m i n a l r e c o r d . T h e 21

m a n h a s n o c r i m i n a l r e c o r d . N o w h e r e o n 22

t h i s a g e n d a d o y o u m e n t i o n - - - . 23

M A Y O R K U H N : 24

P a u l i n e , l e t ' s g e t - - - 25

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f i r s t o f a l l , I h a v e g i v e n y o u t h e 1

o p p o r t u n i t y t o s p e a k w h e n i t w a s n ' t 2

a p p r o p r i a t e o r t i m e f o r y o u t o s p e a k . 3

T h i s i s p u b l i c r e c o r d . A m I c o r r e c t ? 4

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 5

W h a t I w o u l d l i k e t o s a y 6

i s t h a t n o w h e r e o n t h i s a g e n d a i s t h a t 7

- - - . 8

M A Y O R K U H N : 9

I c a n ' t h e a r w h a t s h e ' s 10

- - - . 11

M R . A N D R E J A C K : 12

I ' m g o i n g t o t e l l y o u i n 13

a s e c o n d . 14

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 15

C a n y o u h e a r m e n o w ? 16

M R . A N D R E J A C K : 17

S h e ' s h a v i n g a h a r d t i m e . 18

S h e d o e s n ' t h a v e h e r h e a r i n g a i d s i n . 19

S o I ' m g o i n g t o r e p e a t i t t o h e r w h e n 20

y o u ' r e d o n e , P a u l i n e . 21

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 22

S u r e . I ' l l s p e a k s l o w l y . 23

N o w h e r e o n t h i s a g e n d a i s M r . J e r r y 24

C h i a p p i n e l l i ' s n a m e , a n d y e t y o u b r i n g 25

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t h a t u p r i g h t n o w . I a m h e r e a s a 1

t a x p a y e r t o s a y t h a t i t s e e m s t o m e 2

t h a t t h i s i s t h e s t u f f t h a t l a w s u i t s 3

a r e m a d e o f . A n d y o u h a v e - - - . 4

M A Y O R K U H N : 5

A l l r i g h t , P a u l i n e . 6

L e t ' s c u t t o t h e c h a s e h e r e . 7

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 8

I ' l l c u t t o t h e c h a s e . 9

M A Y O R K U H N : 10

W h a t y o u a r e s a y i n g i s 11

b e c a u s e w e d i d n o t p u t o n t h e a g e n d a 12

e x a c t l y w h a t h i s c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d 13

c h e c k h a s s t a t e d , y o u a r e s a y i n g t h a t 14

w e s h o u l d n o t p r e s e n t t h i s t o i n f o r m 15

t h e p u b l i c o f w h y t h e M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l 16

h a v e c h o s e n t o m a k e t h e d e c i s i o n t h e y 17

m a d e . 18

I s t h a t w h a t y o u r c o m m e n t 19

i s , b a s i c a l l y ? I ' m s o r r y . I h a d 20

s u r g e r y a n d I ' m h a v i n g a h a r d t i m e 21

h e a r i n g i n m y e a r s . 22

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 23

I u n d e r s t a n d t h a t . I ' m 24

h a p p y t o s p e a k s l o w l y a n d t o l e t C r a i g 25

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r e p e a t w h a t I s a y . 1

N o . W h a t I ' m s a y i n g t h a t 2

t h i s s m a c k s o f - - - t h i s i s a k i n t o 3

s e l e c t i v e p r o s e c u t i o n . 4

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 5

W h y d o n ' t y o u j u s t s t a t e 6

w h e n y o u b e c a m e a w a r e w h e n y o u w e r e i n 7

t h e - - - ? 8

M A Y O R K U H N : 9

I c a n ' t h e a r y o u , C r a i g . 10

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 11

M a y o r , i f I m a y , w h y 12

d o n ' t I j u s t s a y w h a t y o u l e a r n e d 13

i n s t e a d o f r e a d i n g v e r b a t i m w h a t t h e 14

c r i m i n a l c o m p l a i n t s a y s ? 15

M A Y O R K U H N : 16

S o M s . C a l a b r e s e , y o u a r e 17

s t a t i n g o n r e c o r d t h a t y o u h a v e n o 18

p r o b l e m w i t h M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l h a v i n g 19

i n f o r m a t i o n t h a t i s r e l e v a n t t o t h e 20

d e c i s i o n t h e y ' r e m a k i n g p r e s e n t e d t o 21

t h e p u b l i c , s o y o u h a v e n o p r o b l e m 22

s a y i n g t h a t t h i s m u n i c i p a l i t y i s n o t 23

t r a n s p a r e n t i n n o t g i v i n g t h e p u b l i c 24

t h e i n f o r m a t i o n t h e y h a v e . I s t h a t 25

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w h a t y o u ' r e s t a t i n g ? 1

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 2

N o . A c t u a l l y , w h a t I ' m 3

s a y i n g i s , f i r s t o f a l l , I f i n d i t o d d 4

t h a t t h i s i s n o t - - - . 5

M A Y O R K U H N : 6

P l e a s e . L i k e I s a i d , 7

I ' v e g i v e n y o u t h e o p p o r t u n i t y . P l e a s e 8

j u s t b a s i c a l l y s a y y e s o r n o t o t h e 9

q u e s t i o n I a s k e d y o u . 10

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 11

N o , t h a t ' s n o t w h a t I ' m 12

s a y i n g . W h a t I a m s a y i n g i s , a n d 13

p l e a s e d o n ' t m i s c h a r a c t e r i z e w h a t I ' m 14

s a y i n g . I s t a n d h e r e a s a t a x p a y e r a n d 15

t h i s s u r e s e e m s l i k e w e ' r e o n t h e - - - 16

t h i s i s t h e s t u f f t h a t l a w s u i t s a r e 17

m a d e o f . 18

T h e q u o t a t i o n b y 19

C o u n c i l m a n P e t r u c c i i s i n t h e T r i b , t h e 20

a r t i c l e t h a t j u s t c a m e o u t l e s s t h a n 4 8 21

h o u r s a g o , s p e a k s a b o u t a c r i m i n a l 22

r e c o r d o f M r . C h i a p p i n e l l i . T h e r e i s 23

n o c r i m i n a l r e c o r d . 24

M A Y O R K U H N : 25

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O k a y . 1

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 2

N o , t h i s i s - - - t h i s - - - . 3

M A Y O R K U H N : 4

A l l r i g h t . I ' m a s k i n g a 5

q u e s t i o n o f t h e S o l i c i t o r . D o y o u w a n t 6

- - - s h o u l d t h i s b e i n c l u d e d o r 7

s h o u l d n ' t i t ? 8

P a u l i n e , y o u c a n s i t d o w n 9

a n d y o u c a n s p e a k w h e n e v e r y b o d y e l s e 10

d o e s . 11

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 12

W e l l , I j u s t w o u l d l i k e 13

t o s a y - - - . 14

M A Y O R K U H N : 15

Y o u c a n s i t d o w n a n d y o u 16

c a n s p e a k w h e n I a s k f o r - - - . 17

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 18

H e r e w e g o a g a i n . T h i s 19

i s t h e w a y t h e p r o c e s s i s . 20

M A Y O R K U H N : 21

O h , c o m e o n , P a u l i n e . I 22

g a v e a d i r e c t i v e . A n d u n t i l J a n u a r y 23

2 0 2 0 , I a m t h e m a y o r . 24

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 25

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I u n d e r s t a n d t h a t . 1

M A Y O R K U H N : 2

S o I t o l d y o u , I g a v e y o u 3

a n e x c e p t i o n t o l e t y o u s p e a k . Y o u 4

s p o k e . I ' v e a s k e d f o r a d e c i s i o n f r o m 5

t h e S o l i c i t o r , a n d I a m a s k i n g y o u t o 6

p l e a s e t a k e y o u r s e a t a n d y o u c a n 7

c o n t i n u e s p e a k i n g w h e n e v e r y o n e e l s e i n 8

t h e a u d i e n c e h a s . Y o u p u t y o u r p o i n t 9

a c r o s s . I ' m a s k i n g f o r a l e g a l 10

o p i n i o n . 11

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 12

T h a n k y o u . 13

M A Y O R K U H N : 14

T h a n k y o u . 15

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 16

O k a y . S o j u s t s o 17

e v e r y b o d y ' s a w a r e . W e h a d a n e x e c u t i v e 18

s e s s i o n l a s t S a t u r d a y a t 1 1 o ' c l o c k o r 19

1 o ' c l o c k . I p a r t i c i p a t e d b y 20

t e l e p h o n e , a n d I w a s m a d e a w a r e t h a t 21

M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l h a d t h i s i n f o r m a t i o n . 22

A n d i n s t e a d o f r e a d i n g i t 23

v e r b a t i m , M a y o r , I b e l i e v e i t i s p u b l i c 24

r e c o r d . I b e l i e v e t h a t a n y b o d y c a n 25

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o b t a i n i t i f t h e y w a n t t o . A n d w h a t i t 1

i s , i t ' s a n a l l e g a t i o n o f c r i m i n a l a c t s 2

w i t h r e g a r d t o a n i n d i v i d u a l . T h o s e 3

a l l e g a t i o n s a r e s i m p l e a s s a u l t a n d 4

t e r r o r i s t i c t h r e a t s . I t h i n k t h a t 5

t h a t ' s w h a t p r o m p t e d M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l 6

t o m o v e f o r w a r d o n t h e a g e n d a i t e m s 7

t o d a y . 8

I s t h a t f a i r t o j u s t s a y 9

i t t h a t w a y ? 10

M A Y O R K U H N : 11

T h a t ' s a - - - t h a t ' s f i n e 12

w i t h m e , a l t h o u g h I a m t a k i n g t h e 13

o p i n i o n o f t h e S o l i c i t o r . 14

B u t a s f a r a s b e i n g a 15

r e s i d e n t , a s f a r a s b e i n g a t a x p a y e r , 16

t h a t ' s w h o I a n s w e r t o . A n d w h e n I 17

r e c e i v e i n f o r m a t i o n a n d I a m g o i n g t o 18

h a v e a n a c t i o n t h a t t h a t i n f o r m a t i o n 19

h a s p r o m p t e d , a n d i t ' s p u b l i c 20

k n o w l e d g e , i t ' s n o t h e a r s a y . I t ' s n o t 21

a t t a c k i n g . I t i s a n e x a c t d o c u m e n t 22

t h a t i s p u b l i c k n o w l e d g e t o a n y o n e . 23

I t w a s m y o p i n i o n t h a t 24

t h e p u b l i c s h o u l d b e m a d e a w a r e . B u t i f 25

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t h a t ' s - - - i f t h e d e c i s i o n a n d t h e 1

q u e s t i o n w a s t o h i d e t h e i n f o r m a t i o n t o 2

t h e p u b l i c , a n d t h e S o l i c i t o r h a s m a d e 3

h i s o p i n i o n o n i t , t h e n I w i l l n o t p u t 4

i t i n t o r e c o r d . B u t I w i l l b e o n 5

r e c o r d t o s t a t e t h a t I d o t h i n k t h a t 6

t h e p u b l i c h a s t h e r i g h t t o k n o w 7

i n f o r m a t i o n o f t h i s i m p o r t a n c e . 8

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 9

Y o u d i d n ' t f i n i s h . 10

E v e r y t h i n g w a s d i s m i s s e d . 11

M A Y O R K U H N : 12

P a u l i n e , d o y o u h a v e a n y 13

c o n c e p t o f w h a t i t i s t o b e i n t h e - - - 14

I k n o w y o u d i d n ' t c o m e t o a n y m e e t i n g s 15

u n t i l y o u d e c i d e d t o r u n f o r a n o f f i c e . 16

C O U N C I L M E M B E R : 17

D e r o g a t o r y . 18

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 19

D e r o g a t o r y . 20

M A Y O R K U H N : 21

B u t d o y o u h a v e a n y 22

c o n c e p t o n w h a t t h e r u l e s a r e w h e n y o u 23

s i t i n t h e c h a m b e r s o f t h e C o u n c i l 24

m e e t i n g ? N o . I d o n ' t w a n t a n a n s w e r 25

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f r o m y o u . I ' m j u s t s t a t i n g , I g a v e y o u 1

a n o p p o r t u n i t y , b u t y o u a r e n e v e r 2

s a t i s f i e d . 3

Y o u w i l l h a v e t h e 4

o p p o r t u n i t y t o s p e a k w h e n I a s k f o r 5

c o m m e n t s f r o m t h e a u d i e n c e . I d o n ' t s e e 6

a n y o n e e l s e i n t h e a u d i e n c e c o m i n g u p 7

o r i n t e r r u p t i n g w h e n t h e y a r e a w a r e 8

t h a t t h e y w i l l h a v e t h e o p p o r t u n i t y 9

w h e n I a s k f o r c o m m e n t s f r o m t h e 10

p u b l i c . 11

S o I a m a s k i n g y o u a g a i n 12

t o k e e p y o u r r e m a r k s u n t i l y o u h a v e t h e 13

r i g h t t o c o m e u p a n d s p e a k w h e n t h e 14

a u d i e n c e i s r e q u e s t e d . 15

O k a y . T h i s t o o k m e o f f , 16

w h i c h i t ' s s o h o r r i b l e w h e n M a y o r a n d 17

C o u n c i l w a n t t o p r e s e n t s o m e t h i n g o n a 18

p r o f e s s i o n a l l e v e l a n d h a v e a s p i n p u t 19

o n i t t o t a k e a w a y f r o m t h e a c t u a l 20

s i t u a t i o n t h a t i s i n v o l v e d o n t o 21

s o m e t h i n g e l s e . T h a t - - - t h e n t h e 22

h e a d l i n e s c a n r e a d , M a y o r h a s 23

c o n f r o n t a t i o n w i t h r e s i d e n t . 24

T h i s i s a n i n f o r m a t i o n 25

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t h a t M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l h a v e g o n e o v e r 1

a n d a r e p r e s e n t i n g . I t ' s v e r y s a d t h a t 2

i t h a s t o b e t u r n e d i n t o a c i r c u s a n d 3

n o t a p r o f e s s i o n a l m e e t i n g . 4

I h a v e r e a d e v e r y t h i n g 5

d o c u m e n t e d t h a t t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y h a s 6

d o n e s i n c e J a n u a r y ' t i l A u g u s t . I h a v e 7

p r e s e n t e d n o t h i n g p e r s o n a l . I h a v e 8

p r e s e n t e d t h e f a c t s a s p r e s e n t e d a s t o 9

w h a t t o o k p l a c e , a n d t o w h y C o u n c i l h a s 10

m a d e t h e d e c i s i o n t h e y a r e m a k i n g 11

t o d a y . I t ' s t h a t s i m p l y . D o n ' t s h o o t 12

t h e m e s s e n g e r . 13

M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l d i d n o t 14

c o n d u c t t h e c r i m i n a l c h a r g e s . Y o u h a v e 15

t o b e r e s p o n s i b l e f o r y o u r a c t i o n s . I 16

d i d n ' t w a n t t o g o i n t o a n y o f t h i s 17

c o m m e n t b e c a u s e o f t h e f a c t t h i s w a s - -18

- I h a d i t a l l p r e s e n t e d t o j u s t 19

p r e s e n t i t a s f a c t s . I f y o u w a n t t o 20

a c c e p t t h e f a c t s , f i n e . I f y o u d o n ' t 21

w a n t t o p r e s e n t t h e f a c t s , t h a t ' s f i n e 22

t o o . T h a t ' s y o u r p r i v i l e g e t o s p e a k . 23

M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l w a s 24

m o r e t h a n l e n i e n t , m o r e t h a n 25

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r e s p e c t f u l , m o r e t h a n p a t i e n t w i t h t h i s 1

b l a t a n t p o s i t i o n o f n o t c o m p l y i n g , b u t 2

a l s o n o t e v e n t o m a k e a n a t t e m p t t o s a y 3

w h y . 4

S i x m o n t h s , m u l t i p l e 5

m e e t i n g s a n d c o n v e r s a t i o n s t o t r y t o 6

m a k e t h e c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k a s 7

f a i r a s i t p o s s i b l y c o u l d . B u t w h e n 8

s o m e t h i n g i s b r o u g h t t o M a y o r a n d 9

C o u n c i l ' s a t t e n t i o n o f t h e s e v e r i t y , 10

t h e n w e h a d n o c h o i c e b u t t o m a k e a 11

d e c i s i o n . I f y o u a r e n ' t h a p p y w i t h 12

t h a t d e c i s i o n , I ' m s o r r y . 13

E v e r y C o u n c i l - - - y o u 14

c o u l d p r e s e n t t o e v e r y C o u n c i l m e m b e r 15

w h y y o u a r e n o t h a p p y w i t h t h e i r 16

d e c i s i o n . B u t m y d e c i s i o n w a s b a s e d o n 17

t h e e n v i r o n m e n t t h a t w e l i v e i n a n d t h e 18

f a c t t h a t I p e r s o n a l l y a m a g a i n s t g u n 19

v i o l e n c e . 20

N o w , b e f o r e I o p e n i t u p 21

t o t h e p u b l i c , I w i l l g i v e t h e 22

o p p o r t u n i t y , i f w a n t e d , t o C o u n c i l t o 23

m a k e t h e i r c o m m e n t s o n w h a t w e ' r e 24

v o t i n g o n t o d a y . 25

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M R . P E T R U C C I : 1

M a y o r K u h n , I b e l i e v e 2

t h a t t h e c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k i s a 3

t o o l . A n d t h a t t o o l i s g i v i n g u s t h e 4

a b i l i t y t o c o i n c i d e w i t h t h e 5

P e n n s y l v a n i a C o n s t i t u t i o n . I t a l r e a d y 6

m a n d a t e s t h a t i n d i v i d u a l s w i t h c e r t a i n 7

c r i m i n a l c o n v i c t i o n s a r e i n e l i g i b l e t o 8

h o l d p u b l i c o f f i c e . 9

T h e r e ' s a c o m p l e t e 10

p a r a m e t e r t h a t ' s s e t u p b y t h e 11

P e n n s y l v a n i a C o n s t i t u t i o n . H o w a r e w e 12

s u p p o s e d t o k n o w i f t h i s p e r s o n f i t s 13

i n t o t h a t p a r a m e t e r t h a t g u i d e s u s b y 14

t h e P e n n s y l v a n i a C o n s t i t u t i o n ? 15

S o w e h a v e t o u s e t h i s 16

t o o l t o g u i d e u s a n d t e l l u s w h a t ' s 17

g o i n g o n w i t h s o m e b o d y ' s b a c k g r o u n d . 18

W e d o n ' t w a n t - - - a n d I t h i n k w e c a n 19

a l l a g r e e , w e d o n ' t w a n t a p e r s o n w i t h 20

a t a i n t e d h i s t o r y r e a d i n g u p a t t h e 21

l i b r a r y t o s o m e o f t h e k i d s t h a t a r e 22

g o i n g i n t h e r e f o r s t o r y t i m e . W e 23

d o n ' t w a n t a p e r s o n w i t h a t a i n t e d 24

h i s t o r y t h a t ' s o n a b o a r d w o r k i n g i n 25

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t h e s e n i o r c i t i z e n ' s c e n t e r h e l p i n g 1

s o m e b o d y o u t w i t h t h e i r t a x e s . 2

W e d o n ' t w a n t s o m e b o d y 3

w i t h a t a i n t e d h i s t o r y o n a c o m m i s s i o n 4

o r a b o a r d a g a i n m a k i n g d e c i s i o n s f o r 5

t h e p u b l i c i n t h i s c o m m u n i t y . S o t h a t 6

i s w h y t h e c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k , 7

i n m y e y e s , w a s e s t a b l i s h e d . 8

T h e r e ' s s o m u c h g o i n g o n 9

i n t o d a y ' s s o c i e t y t h a t w e m u s t k n o w a 10

l i t t l e b i t a b o u t t h e p e o p l e t h a t a r e 11

r u n n i n g o u r c o m m u n i t y . 12

N o w , a s a s i t t i n g e l e c t e d 13

o f f i c i a l , a n d i f y o u r u n f o r a n e l e c t e d 14

o f f i c e , t h e r e ' s a p a r a m e t e r t h a t 15

a c c o r d i n g t o o u r h o m e r u l e c h a r t e r a l s o 16

g i v e s u s t h a t w e c a n ' t h a v e a f e l o n y i n 17

o u r b a c k g r o u n d . 18

B u t t h e r e i s r u l e s s e t i n 19

p l a c e b y t h e P e n n s y l v a n i a C o n s t i t u t i o n , 20

a n d w e m u s t a b i d e b y t h e m . A n d a g a i n , 21

t h i s i s o u r t o o l t o f i n d o u t w h a t i s 22

a c t u a l l y i n s o m e o f o u r B o a r d m e m b e r s ' 23

p a s t s . T h a t ' s a l l . 24

M A Y O R K U H N : 25

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A r e y o u d o n e ? G a r y , d o 1

y o u h a v e a n y t h i n g t o s a y ? N o ? 2

M R . U N D E R W O O D : 3

N o . 4

M A Y O R K U H N : 5

C o m m e n t s f r o m a u d i e n c e ? 6

A n d a s I s a i d , y o u w i l l b e g i v e n f o u r 7

m i n u t e s t o p r e s e n t y o u r c o m m e n t s 8

p e r t a i n i n g o n l y t o w h a t i s p r e s e n t e d o n 9

t h e a g e n d a . 10

P l e a s e s t a t e y o u r n a m e 11

a n d y o u r a d d r e s s . 12

M S . C A L A B R E S E : 13

G o o d m o r n i n g , Y o u r H o n o r . 14

M y n a m e i s P a u l i n e C a l a b r e s e . I l i v e 15

a t 1 4 2 C r e s c e n t H i l l s R o a d . 16

A s I s a i d , h e r e w e g o 17

a g a i n . I t i s s t u n n i n g t o m e t h a t h e r e 18

w e s i t , t h i s m e e t i n g i s c a l l e d o n a 19

T h u r s d a y a t 1 1 o ' c l o c k . P e o p l e a r e a t 20

w o r k . T y p i c a l l y , t h e m e e t i n g s a r e 21

f i l m e d . T h e r e ' s n o v i d e o h e r e t o d a y . 22

T h e r e w a s a n e m e r g e n c y s e s s i o n o n - - - 23

a n e m e r g e n c y e x e c u t i v e s e s s i o n o n 24

S a t u r d a y ? W h a t ' s t h e e m e r g e n c y ? 25

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Y o u k n e w t h a t t h e D e p u t y 1

M a y o r w a s g o i n g t o b e n o t a v a i l a b l e . 2

Y o u k n e w t h a t C o u n c i l m a n B r o d n i c k i , w h o 3

i s t h e o n e w h o p u t f o r t h t h e e t h i c s 4

l e g i s l a t i o n , c o u l d n o t b e p r e s e n t . 5

T h i s i s s t u n n i n g w h a t ' s 6

h a p p e n i n g h e r e . M a k e n o m i s t a k e a b o u t 7

i t . I d o n ' t t h i n k t h e r e ' s a n y b o d y i n 8

t h e u n i v e r s e t h a t i s i n f a v o r o f g u n 9

v i o l e n c e . B u t h e r e w e s i t , a n d y o u 10

h a v e a l l t h i s i n n u e n d o . W e t a l k a b o u t 11

a p e r s o n w h o h a s z e r o , h e h a s n o 12

c r i m i n a l r e c o r d . A n d y e t y o u s i t u p 13

t h e r e , M a y o r , a n d y o u f o r g e t t o s a y t h e 14

s e c o n d h a l f o f t h e s t o r y . 15

I t ' s s t u n n i n g t o m e t h a t 16

w e ' r e p u s h i n g t h i s t h r o u g h . Y o u 17

n e g l e c t t o m e n t i o n t h a t C o u n c i l m a n 18

P e t r u c c i , a n d t h i s i s t h e c r u x o f i t , 19

w h o i s t h e R e p u b l i c a n c a n d i d a t e f o r 20

m a y o r , h a s t a r g e t e d t h e D e m o c r a t i c 21

c h a i r o f t h e P e n n H i l l s D e m o c r a t i c 22

C o m m i t t e e . T h a t ' s w h a t t h i s i s a l l 23

a b o u t . 24

B u t I s a y a s a t a x p a y e r , 25

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t h i s i s f r i g h t e n i n g b e c a u s e y o u s a y 1

t h e s e t h i n g s w i t h e i t h e r m a l i c e o r 2

t o t a l d i s r e g a r d f o r t h e t r u t h , a n d y o u 3

s t i l l h a v e n ' t c l e a r e d t h a t u p a s y o u 4

s i t u p t h e r e . A n d t h e s e a r e t h e t h i n g s 5

t h a t l a w s u i t s a r e m a d e o f . T h e s e a r e 6

t h e t h i n g s t h a t g i v e t h e a p p e a r a n c e o f 7

i m p r o p r i e t y . 8

S o a s I l o o k a t t h i s 9

p r o c e s s , I d o n ' t t h i n k a n y b o d y ' s - - - 10

a n y b o d y w o u l d o b j e c t t o a c r i m i n a l 11

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k . B u t t h e n y o u u s e t h e 12

p h r a s e i n t e r c h a n g e a b l y , M r . P e t r u c c i , 13

w i t h a b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k . W h a t d o e s 14

t h a t m e a n ? Y o u w a n t s o m e o n e ' s c r e d i t 15

r e p o r t ? T h i s i s t h e v e r y r e a s o n w h y 16

t h e - - - a s o f t h e w r i t i n g o f t h e l a s t 17

a r t i c l e , c l o s e t o 5 0 p e r c e n t o f t h e 18

p e o p l e d i d n o t c o m p l y w i t h t h i s 19

r e q u e s t . 20

C r i m i n a l r e c o r d s a r e 21

p u b l i c i n f o r m a t i o n . I f y o u ' r e t a l k i n g 22

a b o u t c l e a r a n c e s , t y p i c a l l y , 23

i n d i v i d u a l s p r o v i d e t h e i r c l e a r a n c e s . 24

N o b o d y o b j e c t s , I d o n ' t b e l i e v e t h a t 25

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a n y b o d y w o u l d o b j e c t t o b a c k g r o u n d 1

c h e c k s . W e o b j e c t t o t h e p r o c e s s . 2

I n t h i s p a r t i c u l a r c a s e , 3

t h e t i m i n g i s s u s p i c i o u s . Y o u ' v e l e t 4

t h i s g o o n f o r m o n t h s a n d t h e n y o u c a l l 5

a n e m e r g e n c y e x e c u t i v e s e s s i o n o n 6

S a t u r d a y w h e n a g a i n y o u k n o w t h e D e p u t y 7

M a y o r i s n o t p r e s e n t . 8

T h i s c l e a r l y i s d r i v e n b y 9

p o l i t i c s . M a k e n o m i s t a k e a b o u t i t . 10

T h a t ' s w h a t t h i s i s a b o u t . T h a n k y o u . 11

M R . H A M M O N D S : 12

G o o d m o r n i n g , M a y o r a n d 13

C o u n c i l . M y n a m e i s L e o n a r d H a m m o n d s . 14

1 5 6 8 L o r e t t a D r i v e . 15

I ' m h e r e t o d a y b e c a u s e 16

I ' m d i s h e a r t e n e d . I ' m h e r e b e c a u s e 17

P e n n H i l l s w a s f o u n d e d i n 1 9 5 8 a n d 18

t u r n e d i n t o a m u n i c i p a l i t y i n ' 7 6 . A n d 19

u n t i l 2 0 1 8 , a l l o f a s u d d e n , o u t o f t h e 20

a i r , w e n e e d t o h a v e t h i s r e s o l u t i o n . 21

W h y i s t h a t ? 22

W e l o o k a t t h e f a c t t h a t 23

w e h a v e a v e t e r a n , a m a n w h o ' s b e e n 24

s e r v i n g h i s c o m m u n i t y , a n d a l l o f a 25

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s u d d e n , o v e r a p e r s o n a l v e n d e t t a , w e 1

h a v e t h i s r e s o l u t i o n . A n d n o w , a l l o f 2

a s u d d e n o u t o f c o i n c i d e n c e , h i s 3

i n f o r m a t i o n i s l e a k e d t o t h e m e d i a . 4

A n d n o w w e ' r e t a l k i n g a b o u t g u n 5

v i o l e n c e . 6

W e l l , i t ' s s t r a n g e t o m e 7

- - - . W e l l , f i r s t , I w a n t t o k n o w i f 8

y o u c a n h e a r m e . 9

M A Y O R K U H N : 10

Y o u w a n t t o k n o w w h a t ? 11

M R . H A M M O N D S : 12

C a n y o u h e a r m e ? I w a n t 13

t o m a k e s u r e t h a t s h e c a n h e a r m e . 14

M A Y O R K U H N : 15

N o . B u t t h e S o l i c i t o r i s 16

t a k i n g d o w n a n d I w i l l - - - . 17

M R . H A M M O N D S : 18

O k a y . W e l l , y o u s p e a k 19

a b o u t g u n v i o l e n c e . 20

M A Y O R K U H N : 21

P a r d o n ? 22

M R . H A M M O N D S : 23

Y o u s p e a k a b o u t g u n 24

v i o l e n c e a n d h o w i m p o r t a n t i t i s t o y o u 25

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i n P e n n H i l l s . 1

M A Y O R K U H N : 2

W h a t i s h e s a y i n g ? 3

M R . H A M M O N D S : 4

W e l l , I h a d a c o u s i n 5

w h o s e n a m e w a s D o u g l a s H a m m o n d s , w h o 6

d i e d h e r e i n P e n n H i l l s w i t h g u n 7

v i o l e n c e . A n d I p u t i n m u l t i p l e 8

p a c k a g e s t o h a v e a m e e t i n g w i t h y o u t o 9

t a l k a b o u t g u n v i o l e n c e a n d I c o u l d n ' t 10

g e t a m e e t i n g . A s a M a r i n e v e t e r a n w h o 11

s e r v e d a s o n e o f y o u r p a r a d e G r a n d 12

M a r s h a l s , c o u l d n ' t g e t a m e e t i n g w i t h 13

t h e M a y o r t o t a l k a b o u t g u n v i o l e n c e . 14

A n d w h e n a g r a n t c a m e f o r w a r d t o h e l p 15

o u r c o m m u n i t y w i t h g u n v i o l e n c e , t h a t 16

w a s i g n o r e d . 17

S o l e t ' s n o t t a l k a b o u t 18

t h i n g s a n d t r y t o m a k e i t o u t t h a t M r . 19

C h i a p p i n e l l i ' s t h e e n e m y h e r e . M a y o r 20

a n d C o u n c i l h a s a j o b t o d o , a n d w e 21

n e e d t o p u t p e r s o n a l v e n d e t t a s a s i d e 22

a n d f o c u s o n P e n n H i l l s . 23

A l l o f u s i n t h i s r o o m 24

h a v e s i n n e d a n d f a l l s h o r t o f t h e g l o r y 25

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o f G o d . T h e r e ' s n o b o d y i n h e r e t h a t 1

c o u l d t h r o w a s t o n e a t a n y b o d y . B u t i f 2

y o u d o d e c i d e t o t h r o w a s t o n e , m a k e 3

s u r e y o u d o n ' t t h r o w i t a t a D a v i d 4

b e c a u s e h e k n o w s h o w t o h u r l b a c k a 5

s t o n e a n d t a k e d o w n t h a t G o l i a t h i n h i s 6

p a t h . Y o u a l l h a v e a g o o d d a y . 7

M S . D ' A N D R E A : 8

C a n I s p e a k n o w ? C a n I 9

s p e a k n o w ? I ' m a s k i n g t h e m . 10

O k a y . M y n a m e i s R i t a 11

D ' A n d r e a . I ' m J e r r y ' s s i s t e r . I c a m e 12

h e r e i n 2 0 0 1 t o l i v e i n P e n n H i l l s . 13

N o t b y c h o i c e . B y c h a n c e . 14

J e r r y , w h e n h e s a w h i s 15

f a t h e r b e i n g a t t a c k e d i n ' 7 5 , w e n t 16

c r a z y . N a t u r a l l y , a n y b o d y w o u l d i f 17

t h e y s a w t h e i r f a t h e r b e i n g a t t a c k e d . 18

T h e m a n h a d o p e n h e a r t , b u t e v e n i f h e 19

d i d n ' t , t h a t ' s y o u r f a t h e r . 20

T h e n h e w e n t o u t s i d e , h e 21

s a w t h e m o n h i s c a r , a n d t h a t ' s w h e n h e 22

s h o t u p i n t h e a i r . H e d i d n ' t s h o o t 23

a n y o n e . I t w a s d i s m i s s e d b y M a z u r . 24

T h e m a n h a s n o c r i m i n a l r e c o r d . 25

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H e ' s d o n e m o r e f o r P e n n 1

H i l l s t h a n a n y o n e I k n o w . I ' m n o t 2

s a y i n g t h i s b e c a u s e I ' m h i s s i s t e r . I 3

k n o w i t . I l i v e i t . H e h e l p e d 4

e v e r y o n e i n h e r e w i t h t h e i r c a m p a i g n s 5

a n d t h e y w o n . 6

S o I t h i n k J e r r y i s a n 7

u p r i g h t c i t i z e n . H e h a s n o c r i m i n a l 8

r e c o r d , n o t h i n g . E v e r y t h i n g ' s 9

d i s m i s s e d . 10

Y o u w a n t t o s e e M a z u r ? 11

H e l i v e s i n P l u m . G o t a l k t o h i m . Y o u 12

h a v e y o u r r e c o r d s d o w n t o w n . S o t h a t ' s 13

w h e r e I s t a n d . I d i d n ' t c h o o s e P e n n 14

H i l l s . I h a d t o c o m e h e r e i n ' 0 1 . 15

N o w , h e w a s c l e a r e d f o r 16

t h e W h i t e H o u s e , T o m b o f t h e U n k n o w n 17

S o l d i e r . S o i f y o u ' r e c l e a r e d f o r t h e 18

W h i t e H o u s e , t h e b e s t i n t h e l a n d , t h e n 19

P e n n H i l l s m e a n s n o t h i n g . A n d t h a t ' s 20

t h e w a y i t i s . T h e m a n i s a g o o d 21

c i t i z e n . T h a n k y o u . 22

M R . F E L I X : 23

H e l l o . H e l l o . H e l l o , 24

M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l . I t l o o k s l i k e w e ' r e 25

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c o m i n g u p o n l u n c h . I ' m r e a l l y h u n g r y . 1

I ' m g o i n g t o g o d o w n t o a l o c a l 2

r e s t a u r a n t w e s u p p o r t , F o o n . W e ' r e 3

g o i n g t o h a v e A s i a n f o o d t o d a y . 4

H o w e v e r , I h a v e s o m e 5

q u e s t i o n s f o r p e o p l e o n t h e d a i s . I 6

a l s o h a v e t w o c o m m e n t s t o m a k e b e f o r e I 7

a s k m y q u e s t i o n s . I w o u l d e x p e c t a n 8

a n s w e r f r o m t h e p e o p l e I a d d r e s s , n o t 9

f r o m t h e p e o p l e I d o n o t a d d r e s s , i f 10

t h a t ' s p r o t o c o l . 11

T h e f i r s t c o m m e n t i s M r s . 12

C a l a b r e s e i s c o m p l e t e l y c o r r e c t o n t h e 13

q u e s t i o n s o f t r a n s p a r e n c y i n t h i s 14

i s s u e . T h e s e c o n d c o m m e n t i s t h a t M r . 15

H a m m o n d s i s c o m p l e t e l y c o r r e c t o n h i s 16

p r o b l e m w i t h t h e t i m i n g a n d t h e 17

p o l i t i c a l n a t u r e o f t h i s r e s o l u t i o n . 18

S o I w a n t y o u t o a l l r e m e m b e r t h a t . 19

T h a t ' s w h a t a l o t o f p e o p l e i n t h i s 20

c o m m u n i t y f e e l . 21

M y q u e s t i o n i s , m y f i r s t 22

q u e s t i o n i s f o r t h e S o l i c i t o r , w i t h 23

w h o m I h a v e a g o o d r e l a t i o n s h i p a n d I 24

t r u s t h i m . H i , C r a i g . 25

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M R . A L E X A N D E R : 1

H i , F e l i x . 2

M R . F E L I X : 3

A r e w e p r e p a r e d - - - ? I 4

l i v e d t h r o u g h t h e d i s m i s s a l o f m a n y 5

m u n i c i p a l e m p l o y e e s f o r b r e a k i n g 6

m u n i c i p a l r e g u l a t i o n s a n d t h e 7

s u b s e q u e n t l a w s u i t s t h a t e n c u m b e r e d o u r 8

m u n i c i p a l i t y f i n a n c i a l l y a n d t i e d u p 9

o u r c o d e e n f o r c e m e n t f o r y e a r s . 10

I a l s o h a v e w i t n e s s e d 11

s o m e v e r y , v e r y m e s s y s e v e r a n c e 12

p a c k a g e s t h a t h a v e e n c u m b e r e d o u r 13

m u n i c i p a l i t y f i n a n c i a l l y f o r y e a r s . 14

A r e w e p r e p a r e d t o d e f e n d a g a i n s t t h e 15

i n e v i t a b l e l a w s u i t s ? A n d n o t j u s t f r o m 16

t h e p e r s o n t h a t w e ' v e b e e n f o c u s i n g o n 17

t o d a y , w h i c h s e e m s u n f a i r t o m e , b u t 18

t h e r e a r e o t h e r m e m b e r s o f t h e s e 19

c o m m i s s i o n s , a n d I h a v e s e r v e d o n t h e s e 20

c o m m i s s i o n s . M r s . M e y e r f r o m t h e 21

l i b r a r y . I d o n ' t t h i n k s h e h a s 22

s u b m i t t e d h e r s . M r s . D o n o h u e , p e r h a p s . 23

I ' m n o t s u r e a b o u t M r . S t o c k . M r . 24

S a p p , M s . F i t z h e n r y . I k n o w a l l o f t h e 25

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p e o p l e w h o s e r v e d i n t h i s c o m m u n i t y o n 1

t h e s e c o m m i s s i o n s . 2

I w o u l d l i k e t o k n o w h o w 3

m a n y o p e n i n g s t h e r e a r e g o i n g t o b e 4

v e r y s o o n . I ' d l i k e t o r e a p p l y , m a y b e 5

f o r s o m e t h i n g a l i t t l e b e t t e r t h a n t h e 6

L i b r a r y B o a r d , w h i c h w a s d i s r e s p e c t e d 7

f o r y e a r s . 8

M y s e c o n d q u e s t i o n i s f o r 9

M r . A n d r e j c h a k . D o w e h a v e m o n e y i n 10

t h e c o f f e r s t o b a t t l e t h e s e i n e v i t a b l e 11

l a w s u i t s ? 12

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 13

F e l i x , t h i s i s y o u r 14

o p p o r t u n i t y t o c o m m e n t . 15

M R . F E L I X : 16

T h a t ' s m y q u e s t i o n . 17

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 18

I ' m n o t p r e p a r e d t o 19

a n s w e r i t . 20

M R . F E L I X : 21

O k a y . 22

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 23

I t ' s y o u r o p p o r t u n i t y t o 24

m a k e y o u r c o m m e n t . 25

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M R . F E L I X : 1

I b e l i e v e I ' v e m a d e m y 2

c o m m e n t s . 3

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 4

T h e r e ' s n o - - - w e d o n ' t 5

h a v e a n o b l i g a t i o n . I d o n ' t h a v e a n 6

o b l i g a t i o n t o a n s w e r a n d h a v e a n 7

i n t e r a c t i o n - - - . 8

M R . F E L I X : 9

O k a y . I w i l l c o n c l u d e 10

- - - . 11

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 12

I t ' s y o u r t i m e . 13

M R . F E L I X : 14

I w i l l c o n c l u d e w i t h t h i s 15

i s a w a r n i n g t o t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y , t o 16

M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l , a n d t o t h o s e i n 17

c h a r g e o f o u r f i n a n c e s a s a t a x p a y e r 18

t h a t t o w a d e i n t o t h i s f i n a n c i a l m o r a s s 19

a g a i n w i l l n o t d o a n y b o d y a n y g o o d f o r 20

j u s t a l i t t l e b i t o f p o l i t i c a l 21

p l e a s u r e . 22

M S . G R A H A M - S H E A L E Y : 23

D e n i s e G r a h a m - S h e a l e y , 24

7 8 6 0 M o u n t C a r m e l R o a d . 25

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I c a m e h e r e t o d a y f u l l y 1

p r e p a r e d t o b l a s t t h i s B o a r d , t h i s 2

C o u n c i l , b e c a u s e I d i d n ' t f o l l o w i t i n 3

t h e n e w s , b u t a c c o r d i n g t o t h e T r i b u n e -4

R e v i e w , i t s e e m s l i k e t h i n g s w e r e a 5

l i t t l e a m i s s a s f a r a s w h o w a s a c t u a l l y 6

b e i n g b r o u g h t u p u n d e r t h i s n e w p o l i c y , 7

w h a t t h e p o l i c y w a s r e a l l y a l l a b o u t . 8

S o I d o s a y I c o m m e n d y o u f o r t h e 9

a c t u a l b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k b e c a u s e I d o n ' t 10

w a n t a n y p e d o p h i l e w i t h t h e k i d s o r 11

w h a t e v e r . 12

W h a t I d o n ' t a p p r e c i a t e , 13

a n d b e l i e v e m e , I d o n ' t h a v e a n i c k e l 14

i n t h i s d i m e . I s t h i s m e e t i n g a b o u t 15

p e o p l e w h o d i d n o t d o t h e c r i m i n a l 16

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k , o r i s t h i s m e e t i n g 17

a b o u t s i n g l i n g o u t o n e p e r s o n ? 18

D o n ' t c l a p f o r m e ' c a u s e 19

I ' m n o t o n y o u r s i d e . B u t I d o n ' t l i k e 20

t h e w a y t h i s h a p p e n e d b e c a u s e t h a t 21

c o u l d b e a n y b o d y i n t h i s m u n i c i p a l i t y . 22

A n y b o d y . C o u l d h a v e b e e n m e , b u t I 23

d o n ' t h a v e a r e c o r d . 24

S o a g a i n , t h e n a r r a t i v e 25

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t h a t y o u h a v e s p u n o u t i s t h a t t h i s i s 1

a p e r s o n a l v e n d e t t a b e c a u s e I h e a r d 2

M a y o r s a y t h a t e x e c u t i v e s e s s i o n w a s 3

c a l l e d o n S a t u r d a y a n d t h i s i n f o r m a t i o n 4

w a s g i v e n . W h o l e a k e d t h a t t o t h e 5

p r e s s ? T h a t ' s t h e p a r t t h a t u p s e t s m e . 6

A n d f r o m a l l t h a t I ' v e e v e r k n o w n a b o u t 7

t h i s m u n i c i p a l i t y , w h i l e I w a s o n t h e 8

S c h o o l B o a r d , I l o o k e d u p t o y o u g u y s 9

b e c a u s e y o u d i d n ' t h a v e t h e d r a m a t h a t 10

w e d i d . B u t w h a t w a s p u t i n t h a t p a p e r 11

a n d D i l l o n C a r r - - - t h a t w h o l e a r t i c l e 12

w a s t r a s h . 13

B u t i s t h i s m e e t i n g t o d a y 14

a b o u t s o m e o n e o r s o m e o n e ' s , h e , s h e , 15

w h o d i d n o t f o l l o w t h e p o l i c y ? O r a r e 16

w e h e r e t o s i n g l e o u t o n e p e r s o n ? I f 17

i t ' s b e c a u s e s o m e o n e d i d n ' t f o l l o w t h e 18

p o l i c y , t h e n I g e t t h a t . B u t w e n e e d 19

t o c h a n g e t h e n a r r a t i v e o n t h i s b e c a u s e 20

w e l o o k b a d . 21

M S . H A R P E R : 22

I ' m W y n o n a H a r p e r . I 23

l i v e a t 1 8 7 4 L i n c o l n R o a d . 24

A n d w h e n y o u t a l k a b o u t 25

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g u n s e n s e l a w s , m y s o n w a s a h o m i c i d e 1

v i c t i m h e r e , N o v e m b e r 1 4 t h , 2 0 1 3 . I ' v e 2

s e e n n o o n e t a k e a c t i o n , c o m e f o r w a r d 3

t o h e l p i n g t h e f a m i l i e s . 4

A n d J e r r y i s a g r e a t g u y . 5

H e h a s h e l p e d m y f a m i l y , a n d s u p p o r t i v e 6

o f t h e t h i n g s t h a t s u r r o u n d s t h e s e g u n s 7

a n d t h e s e i s s u e s . W h e n y o u t a l k a b o u t 8

b a c k g r o u n d , w h a t t y p e o f b a c k g r o u n d a r e 9

y o u s e e k i n g o n h i m ? B e c a u s e I f e e l 10

t h a t i t ' s a p e r s o n a l v e n d e t t a . Y o u 11

k n o w , i t d o e s n ' t s p e a k a b o u t o u r 12

c o m m u n i t y . I t d o e s n ' t s p e a k a b o u t 13

l e a d e r s h i p . I t s p e a k s a b o u t h o w 14

d i v i d e d w e a r e a s a c o m m u n i t y . 15

A n d I t h i n k i t ' s s i n f u l 16

a n d s h a m e f u l t h a t t h i s i s d i r e c t e d 17

t o w a r d s o n e p e r s o n b e c a u s e I n e v e r 18

h e a r d a n y t h i n g a b o u t t h i s m e e t i n g , 19

t h e s e c h a n g e s , o r a n y t h i n g t a k i n g p l a c e 20

h e r e i n P e n n H i l l s . A n d t h a t ' s a l l I 21

g o t t o s a y . 22

M A Y O R K U H N : 23

A n y o t h e r c o m m e n t s ? J u s t 24

t o a d d r e s s s o m e o f t h e c o m m e n t s , a s f a r 25

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a s - - - . 1

O h , I ' m s o r r y . I ' m 2

s o r r y , G r e g . I d i d n ' t k n o w y o u w e r e 3

c o m i n g u p . 4

M R . S W A T C H I C K : 5

T h a n k y o u , M a y o r a n d 6

C o u n c i l . I j u s t c a m e h e r e b a s i c a l l y t o 7

g e t e d u c a t e d o n t h i s . 8

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 9

N a m e a n d a d d r e s s , M r . 10

S w a t c h i c k . 11

M R . S W A T C H I C K : 12

P a r d o n m e ? 13

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 14

N a m e a n d a d d r e s s ? 15

M R . S W A T C H I C K : 16

G r e g S w a t c h i c k , 6 4 8 17

G r a m a c L a n e . 18

I j u s t c a m e u p h e r e t o 19

s o r t o f g e t e d u c a t e d o n t h i s . A n d 20

h a v i n g d o n e s o i n a l i m i t e d w a y , I ' d 21

j u s t l i k e t o m a k e a c o u p l e c o m m e n t s . 22

I i n t e r f a c e d w i t h M r . 23

C h i a p p i n e l l i b a c k i n t h e P e n n 24

H i l l s / W i l k i n s b o u n d a r y d i s p u t e , a n d I 25

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d i s t i n c t l y r e m e m b e r h i m t e l l i n g m e a t 1

S h e e t z a c r o s s f r o m P e n n C e n t e r o n e t i m e 2

t h a t n o b o d y ' s g o i n g t o d o a n y t h i n g 3

a g a i n s t t h e l a w s a n d t h e z o n i n g a n d 4

w h a t n o t b e c a u s e w e a l l w a t c h e a c h 5

o t h e r . W e ' r e a l l w a t c h i n g e a c h o t h e r 6

t o t h e e x t e n t t h a t , y o u k n o w , t h e 7

i m p l i c a t i o n , n o o n e ' s g o i n g t o g e t a w a y 8

w i t h a n y t h i n g . S o I t h i n k t h a t s p e a k s 9

f o r i t s e l f , h o w e v e r i t w a n t s t o b e 10

i n t e r p r e t e d . 11

A n o t h e r t h i n g I ' d j u s t 12

l i k e t o s a y i s m y g r a n d f a t h e r , w h o d i e d 13

a t 9 2 , h e w a s a s i m p l y - - - s i m p l e -14

s p e a k i n g g u y , a n d h e s a i d o n e t i m e t o 15

m e , a n d I ' l l a l w a y s r e m e m b e r t h i s , 16

p o l i t i c s i s a d i r t y g a m e o r p o l i t i c s i s 17

a - - - c a n b e a d i r t y g a m e . 18

A n d I t h o u g h t , y o u k n o w , 19

I ' m m o r e i d e a l i s t i c . I t d o e s n ' t h a v e 20

t o b e a d i r t y g a m e . I t s h o u l d b e a 21

c o o p e r a t i o n . T h e r e ' s a p e n d u l u m s w i n g 22

w h o ' s i n p o w e r . S o t h a t p e n d u l u m s w i n g 23

c o u p l e d w i t h t i m e , c o u p l e d w i t h w h a t h e 24

s a i d , w e ' r e a l l w a t c h i n g e a c h o t h e r , 25

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f r o m o b j e c t i v e s t a n d p o i n t , w h a t ' s w r o n g 1

w i t h a b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k ? I d o n ' t s e e 2

a n y t h i n g w r o n g w i t h i t . I d o n ' t h a v e 3

s u p e r s t r o n g f e e l i n g s e i t h e r w a y . 4

B u t i t s e e m s t o m e t h a t 5

i f y o u a r e n ' t i n a p o s i t i o n w h e r e y o u , 6

a s y o u d e s c r i b e d e l o q u e n t l y , M a y o r , 7

t h e r e s h o u l d b e t h a t e x t r a d e g r e e o f 8

s c r u t i n y t h a t y o u ' r e w i l l i n g t o s u c c u m b 9

y o u r s e l f t o . 10

A n d a l o n g t h o s e l i n e s , 11

a n d I d o n ' t k n o w i f i t ' s g e r m a n e t o t h e 12

t o p i c a t h a n d , b u t I t h i n k i t ' s 13

e n s n a r e d b y a l l t h i s , p h i l o s o p h i c a l l y . 14

W h e n p e o p l e a r e d e l i v e r i n g t h e M e a l s o n 15

W h e e l s , t h e y ' r e u p c l o s e a n d p e r s o n a l 16

t o o p e n d o o r s o f c i t i z e n s w h o t r u s t 17

t h a t i t ' s a l e g i t i m a t e c l o s e c o n t a c t . 18

S o I d o n ' t k n o w i f t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y 19

f r o m a l e g a l e n t i t y h a s i t s a r m s 20

a r o u n d , y o u k n o w , w h e n y o u ' r e 21

c a t e g o r i z i n g w h o g e t s b a c k g r o u n d 22

c h e c k s , w h e t h e r o r n o t i t s h o u l d b e o r 23

i s e x p a n d e d , o r t h e r e ' s a n y p o l i c y i n 24

p l a c e t o s c r u t i n i z e w h o g e t s t o d e l i v e r 25

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t h o s e M e a l s o n W h e e l s b e c a u s e t h e 1

s e n i o r c i t i z e n s a r e p r o b a b l y t h e m o s t 2

v u l n e r a b l e o f u s a l l . T h a n k y o u v e r y 3

m u c h . 4

M A Y O R K U H N : 5

T h a n k y o u . 6

M R . C H I A P P I N E L L I : 7

I h a v e t o . J e r r y 8

C h i a p p i n e l l i , 9 2 1 C i m a r r o n D r i v e . 9

I a p o l o g i z e t o a l l t h e 10

p e o p l e t h a t t o o k t h e t i m e a n d e f f o r t t o 11

c o m e a n d a s s i s t m e , a n d I ' m s o r r y t h a t 12

i t c a m e t o t h i s . 13

B u t f r o m t h e b e g i n n i n g , 14

a n d b y t h e w a y , I n e v e r k n e w a b o u t t h i s 15

m e e t i n g . D i l l o n C a r r c a l l e d m e o n 16

M o n d a y a n d t o l d m e a b o u t i t , a n d 17

s u p p o s e d l y , i t w a s s u p p o s e d t o b e 18

W e d n e s d a y . I w a s n e v e r g i v e n a n o t i c e 19

t h a t t h e r e w a s e v e n a m e e t i n g . I n e v e r 20

e v e n k n e w t h a t I c o u l d c o m e a n d s i t i n 21

t h e m a n a g e r ' s o f f i c e a n d t a l k a b o u t 22

c l e a r a n c e . I n e v e r k n e w t h a t . I o n l y 23

g o t o n e n o t i c e a n d I n e v e r g o t a n 24

e x p l a n a t i o n . 25

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A n d I s p o k e t o t h e 1

m a n a g e r m a n y t i m e s i n t h e p a s t c o u p l e 2

m o n t h s , a n d h e n e v e r s a i d J e r r y , y o u 3

w a n t t o c o m e i n a n d t a l k t o m e a n d g i v e 4

m e c l e a r a n c e ? S h o w m e p i c t u r e s o f y o u r 5

c l e a r a n c e a t t h e W h i t e H o u s e , a t t h e 6

T o m b o f t h e U n k n o w n S o l d i e r ? A t y o u r 7

b o a t r i d e f o r s p e c i a l k i d s t h a t y o u d o 8

f o r 3 5 y e a r s ? A t y o u r p l a q u e i n 9

S o l d i e r s a n d S a i l o r s H a l l f o r v e t e r a n s ? 10

I n a l l t h e t h i n g s y o u d o f o r t h e 11

c o m m u n i t y ? 12

M r . A n d r e j c h a k n e v e r 13

a s k e d m e t o c o m e i n a n d t a l k t o h i m a n d 14

g i v e h i m p r o o f o r c r e d e n t i a l s . I 15

d i d n ' t k n o w a b o u t t h a t . B u t I w i l l n o t 16

s u b m i t t o p u t t i n g m y S o c i a l S e c u r i t y 17

n u m b e r i n a d r a w e r w h e r e e v e r y b o d y a n d 18

t h e i r m o t h e r c o u l d l o o k a t i t a n d 19

e v e r y b o d y a n d t h e i r m o t h e r c o u l d h a c k 20

m e . A n d t h e n d o I t r u s t i t ? N o . 21

W e h a v e C i t i b a n k , w e h a v e 22

t h e V A b e i n g h a c k e d . W e h a v e 23

- - - n o t E n r o n . A n c e s t r y . c o m . A n d I ' m 24

a n i n s u r a n c e a g e n t . I h a v e t o p r o t e c t 25

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m y i m a g e . I h a v e 5 2 y e a r s o f a n 1

i n s u r a n c e a g e n t w i t h n o c r i m i n a l 2

b a c k g r o u n d . 3

T h a t m a n w a s a t t a c k i n g m y 4

d a d . J o h n P e t r u c c i k n e w m y d a d . M y 5

d a d a n d h i s f a t h e r w e r e f r i e n d s , a n d I 6

w a s h i s f r i e n d f o r y e a r s . A n d t h a t w a s 7

a p l a c e , O n e - E y e d J a c k ' s , i t w a s a 8

t e e n a g e c l u b . A n d I c a m e i n a n d m y 9

f a t h e r w a s b e i n g b e a t e n b y t h r e e 10

p e o p l e . A n d t h e c r i m i n a l t h a t a c c u s e d 11

m e , I b e a t t h e - - - I w o u l d d o i t a g a i n . 12

A n d I t h r e w h i m o u t s i d e , M a y o r . Y o u 13

c a n h e a r m e ? 14

A n d w h e n I w e n t t o h o l d 15

m y d a d i n m y a r m s , w h o w a s b l e e d i n g , 16

t h e y w e r e b e a t i n g m y c a r o u t s i d e . I 17

p u t m y d a d d o w n g e n t l y , w e n t o u t s i d e . 18

A n d t h e r e w a s t h r e e o f t h e m j u m p i n g o n 19

m y c a r . I s c r e a m e d a t t h e m , p r o b a b l y 20

v u l g a r , a n d f i r e d i n t h e a i r , a n d t h e y 21

a l l r a n . 22

T h e m a n a n d h i s m o t h e r 23

w e n t a c o u p l e d a y s l a t e r t o t h e 24

D i s t r i c t J u s t i c e . A n d i n t h o s e d a y s , 25

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t h e w a y i t w a s d o n e , y o u c o u l d f i l e a 1

c o m p l a i n t . I t w a s d i s m i s s e d . T h e 2

p r o c e s s a t t h e t i m e w a s i t h a d t o g o t o 3

t h e D i s t r i c t A t t o r n e y . I t h a d t o g o 4

t h r o u g h t h e - - - s u p p o s e d l y t h e G r a n d 5

J u r y , b u t I n e v e r h e a r d o f i t , a n d t h e n 6

i t w a s d i s m i s s e d . 7

A n d i n 4 5 y e a r s , I ' v e 8

b e e n t h r o u g h s o m a n y b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s , 9

y o u d i d a n o t h e r o n e . W h o e v e r t h e 10

c o n c e r n e d c i t i z e n , i n t h e c o u r t r o o m 11

d o w n t o w n , d u r i n g t h e l a w s u i t , t h e y w i l l 12

h a v e t o b e t h e r e , b e c a u s e t h e l a w s a y s 13

I c a n f a c e m y a c c u s e r . 14

I h a v e d o n e w h a t e v e r I 15

c o u l d f o r t h i s c o m m u n i t y . I ' v e s e r v e d 16

w i t h v a l o r o n t h e P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n 17

f o r t e n y e a r s . Y o u a p p o i n t e d - - - M a y o r 18

D e L u c a a p p o i n t e d m e o n c e . Y o u 19

a p p o i n t e d m e t w i c e . I w o r k e d o n y o u r 20

c a m p a i g n . I w o r k e d o n G a r y ' s c a m p a i g n . 21

I w o r k e d o n M a y o r S a p p ' s c a m p a i g n . I 22

w o r k e d o n M r . B r o d n i c k i ' s c a m p a i g n . 23

F o r y e a r s , n o o n e e v e r w a n t e d t o k n o w 24

a b o u t m y b a c k g r o u n d . 25

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T h i s i s a p e r s o n a l 1

v e n d e t t a . A n d I a m s o s o r r y t h a t t h e 2

P e n n H i l l s p e o p l e h a v e t o p u t u p w i t h 3

t h i s . 4

N o w , t h e r e ' s a m e e t i n g 5

t o n i g h t o f t h e P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n , a n d 6

I h a d t o s t u d y f o r t h r e e h o u r s o n t h e 7

p l a n s , w h i c h I g e t n o p a y . N o o n e o n 8

t h e B o a r d g e t s p a y . W e d o n ' t g e t 9

s t i p e n d s . W e d o n ' t g e t - - - b u t w e w e r e 10

c o m i n g h e r e f o r t e n y e a r s . 11

M A Y O R K U H N : 12

M r . C h i a p p i n e l l i , w e a r e 13

e x t e n d i n g y o u r t i m e , j u s t s o y o u k n o w . 14

M R . C H I A P P I N E L L I : 15

O h , I d i d n ' t k n o w t h e r e 16

w a s a t i m e . 17

M A Y O R K U H N : 18

Y o u ' v e b e e n o v e r f o u r 19

m i n u t e s . S o i f y o u c o u l d j u s t w r a p i t 20

u p i n t w o , t h a t w o u l d b e v e r y 21

a p p r e c i a t i v e . 22

M R . C H I A P P I N E L L I : 23

I c e r t a i n l y w i l l . M a y o r , 24

I h a v e n o a n i m o s i t y a g a i n s t a n y o n e 25

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h e r e . I l o v e P e n n H i l l s . I c h o o s e t o 1

l i v e h e r e . I c a m e h e r e i n ' 6 8 a s a 2

p o o r I t a l i a n b o y f r o m L a r i m e r A v e n u e , 3

a s y o u r e m i n d e d m e o n e t i m e . 4

W e a r e a l l i m m i g r a n t s t o 5

P e n n H i l l s . A n d I r e m e m b e r w h e n t h e 6

m a y o r a t t h e t i m e i n ' 7 2 t u r n e d t o w n 7

t h e $ 4 0 m i l l i o n t o m a k e R o d i R o a d f o u r 8

l a n e s b e c a u s e s h e d i d n ' t w a n t t o o p e n 9

i t u p t o t h e w o r l d . 10

M r . H a m m o n d s , t h a n k y o u 11

v e r y m u c h . I a p p r e c i a t e y o u , m y 12

b r o t h e r v e t e r a n . 13

M R . H A M M O N D S : 14

I a p p r e c i a t e y o u . 15

M R . C H I A P P I N E L L I : 16

A n d r e m e m b e r o n e t h i n g . 17

T h e y w i l l a l w a y s h a t e u s . T h e y w i l l 18

n e v e r l o v e u s . 19

M R . H A M M O N D S : 20

R i g h t o n . R i g h t o n . 21

M R . C H I A P P I N E L L I : 22

B u t m e a n w h i l e , t h e y 23

a l w a y s w a n t u s t o d e f e n d t h e m . T h a n k 24

y o u , m y b r o t h e r . 25

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M R . H A M M O N D S : 1

T h a n k y o u . 2

M R . C H I A P P I N E L L I : 3

I m e a n i t . T h a n k y o u , 4

M a y o r . T h a n k y o u v e r y m u c h . 5

M R . H A M M O N D S : 6

T h a n k y o u . 7

M A Y O R K U H N : 8

T h a n k y o u v e r y m u c h . I s 9

t h a t t h e e n d o f t h e c o m m e n t s f r o m 10

a u d i e n c e ? 11

A U D I E N C E M E M B E R : 12

A n d I h a v e - - - . 13

M A Y O R K U H N : 14

I w i l l - - - . N o , y o u ' v e 15

a l r e a d y s p o k e n . T h a t ' s f o r a n y o n e w h o 16

h a s n ' t a l r e a d y s p o k e n . 17

A U D I E N C E M E M B E R : 18

A l r e a d y - - - . 19

M A Y O R K U H N : 20

O k a y . J u s t t o s i m p l y 21

a d d r e s s s o m e o f t h e c o m m e n t s t h a t w e r e 22

m a d e t o M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l . 23

F i r s t o f a l l , t o m a k e t h e 24

s t a t e m e n t t h a t w e a r e t a r g e t i n g M r . 25

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C h i a p p i n e l l i , i f y o u w o u l d f o l l o w t h e 1

a g e n d a , n u m b e r s i x i s - - - I ' m s o r r y , 2

n u m b e r s e v e n i s r e m o v a l o f a p p o i n t e e s 3

n o t i n c o m p l i a n c e w i t h R e s o l u t i o n 2 0 1 6 -4

6 7 , w h i c h i s w h a t w e w i l l b e d i s c u s s i n g 5

a t t h e n e x t i t e m o n t h e a g e n d a , a n d y o u 6

w i l l s e e t h a t w e h a v e - - - w e a r e v o t i n g 7

o n t h e r e m o v a l o f a n y o f t h e C o m m i t t e e 8

p e o p l e w h o h a v e n o t s e n t i n t h e i r 9

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k . 10

S o t o s a y t h a t t h i s i s 11

t a r g e t e d t o J e r r y C h i a p p i n e l l i , y o u - - - 12

t h e p e o p l e m a k i n g t h o s e c o m m e n t s a r e 13

m a k i n g i t p e r s o n a l , n o t t h e B o a r d . T h e 14

B o a r d i s n o t t a r g e t i n g a n y o n e . A s I 15

s a i d , i f y o u w o u l d h a v e b e e n p a t i e n t t o 16

s e e t h e r e m o v a l o f a p p o i n t e e s , a n d w e 17

h a v e a l i s t t h a t t h e y a r e r e c e i v i n g t h e 18

i d e n t i c a l l e t t e r t h a t M r . C h i a p p i n e l l i 19

i s r e c e i v i n g . S o n o , t h i s i s n o t a 20

p o l i t i c a l w i t c h h u n t a n d t h i s 21

- - - . 22

A U D I E N C E M E M B E R : 23

C a n w e s e e t h e l e t t e r 24

- - - ? 25

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M A Y O R K U H N : 1

T h i s - - - n o . I ' v e 2

a l r e a d y a s k e d f o r p u b l i c c o m m e n t . T h i s 3

i s n o t a p o l i t i c a l w i t c h h u n t . 4

A U D I E N C E M E M B E R : 5

I f h e ' s b e i n g - - - I ' d 6

l i k e t o - - - . 7

M A Y O R K U H N : 8

T h i s i s w h a t M a y o r a n d 9

C o u n c i l h a s d o n e t o m a k e s u r e t h a t a 10

r e s o l u t i o n t h a t i s i n e f f e c t f o r t h e 11

m u n i c i p a l i t y i s c a r r i e d o u t . S o t h a t ' s 12

f o r t h a t c o m m e n t . 13

W h y d i d w e n e e d a 14

r e s o l u t i o n f o r b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s a l l o f 15

a s u d d e n ? W e l l , i f a n y b o d y w a t c h e s 16

t e l e v i s i o n o r f o l l o w s t h e n e w s , y o u 17

w i l l s e e t h a t b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s i s 18

n u m b e r o n e o n t h e a g e n d a f o r a l l o f t h e 19

U n i t e d S t a t e s o f A m e r i c a d u e t o t h e 20

e n v i r o n m e n t t h a t w e w e r e i n . 21

I d i d n ' t k n o w a n y o n e ' s 22

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s . I m a d e m y v o t e o n 23

w h a t I t h o u g h t w o u l d b e t h e b e s t 24

i n t e r e s t f o r t h e w e l f a r e a n d p r o t e c t i o n 25

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o f t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y . W e d i d n ' t s e e 1

a n y o n e ' s b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s . N o o n e o n 2

C o u n c i l w i t h t h e 8 0 p e r c e n t t h a t s e n t 3

t h e m i n d i d n o t s e e t h e b a c k g r o u n d 4

c h e c k s . T h e b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s w a s 5

s o m e t h i n g w e d i d a l l o f a s u d d e n , y e s , 6

b e c a u s e o f t h e e n v i r o n m e n t t h a t w e w e r e 7

i n . 8

I f w e w e r e t a r g e t i n g o r 9

p e r s o n a l v e n d e t t a s , w e w o u l d h a v e g o n e 10

a f t e r e v e r y o n e F e b r u a r y 1 6 t h w h e n t h e y 11

d i d n o t c o m p l y . W e d i d n ' t . W e g a v e 12

e v e r y o n e t h e o p p o r t u n i t y t o p r e s e n t i t . 13

A n d a s f a r a s m a k i n g a 14

s t a t e m e n t , I d i d n ' t k n o w I c o u l d c o m e 15

u p t o t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y , I f i n d t h a t a 16

v e r y w e a k e x c u s e . I f y o u r e c e i v e 17

s o m e t h i n g a n d y o u d o n ' t w a n t t o d o i t , 18

y o u h a v e s e v e r a l c h o i c e s . Y o u c a n c o m e 19

b e f o r e M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l a n d s t a t e y o u r 20

o b j e c t i o n s , o r y o u c a n r e s i g n . 21

A l a w i s a l a w . I t ' s n o t 22

a p e r s o n a l v e n d e t t a . I t w a s 23

a d v e r t i s e d . I t w a s d i s c u s s e d a t a 24

p u b l i c m e e t i n g . I t w a s v o t e d o n . S o 25

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h o w i s t h a t a p e r s o n a l v e n d e t t a w h e n w e 1

d i d n ' t k n o w w h a t t h e b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s 2

w o u l d p r o v i d e ? 3

W e d i d n ' t t a r g e t a n y o n e 4

b e c a u s e w e d i d n ' t k n o w w h a t t h e 5

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s w o u l d p r o v i d e . W e 6

w e r e d o i n g s o m e t h i n g , t h a t b e l i e v e m e , 7

o t h e r c o m m u n i t i e s a r e l o o k i n g i n t o 8

d o i n g t h e s a m e . S o u s e t h e t e r m 9

t a r g e t i n g , p e r s o n a l v e n d e t t a s , h o w i s 10

i t a p e r s o n a l v e n d e t t a w h e n w e a r e 11

a p p l y i n g i t t o a l l w h o d i d n ' t c o m p l y ? 12

D o w e h a v e p e r s o n a l v e n d e t t a s a g a i n s t 13

t h e m a l s o ? T h a t ' s a c h e a p s h o t . B u t 14

t h a t ' s y o u r o p i n i o n w h i c h y o u a r e 15

e n t i t l e d t o . 16

N o w , o f c o u r s e , w e d i d n ' t 17

p r o v i d e t h e i n f o r m a t i o n t h a t w e 18

r e c e i v e d f r o m t h e c r i m i n a l c o n s e n t 19

d o c u m e n t b e c a u s e w e w e r e a s k e d n o t t o . 20

H o w e v e r , t h e r e ' s c o m m e n t s m a d e 21

p e r t a i n i n g t o t h a t d o c u m e n t b y 22

s p e a k e r s , a n d t h e r e w a s n o o b j e c t i o n t o 23

t h e s p e a k e r s p u t t i n g f o r t h t h e i r 24

o p i n i o n o n t h e c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d 25

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i n f o r m a t i o n . B u t w h e n M a y o r a n d 1

C o u n c i l w a n t e d t o p r e s e n t i t , i t w a s 2

t h e m o s t h o r r i b l e t h i n g i n t h e w o r l d . 3

L e t ' s s e e . I f w e h a v e 4

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s b y p e o p l e b e f o r e w e 5

a p p o i n t t h e m , t h a t w o u l d b e v e r y 6

b e n e f i c i a l b e c a u s e t h e n t h a t w o u l d b e 7

p a r t o f t h e d e c i s i o n t h e M a y o r w o u l d 8

h a v e i n t h e i r a p p o i n t m e n t s a n d t h e 9

d e c i s i o n C o u n c i l w o u l d h a v e o n v o t i n g 10

o n t h e m . 11

W h e r e a r e y o u a t , D e n i s e ? 12

M S . G R A H A M - S H E A L E Y : 13

G o t t o g e t b a c k t o w o r k . 14

M A Y O R K U H N : 15

T h e r e w e g o . N o w , D e n i s e 16

G r a h a m - S h e a l e y , w h o I w i l l m a k e a 17

p e r s o n a l s t a t e m e n t o n . I r e s p e c t h e r 18

i n e v e r y w a y p o s s i b l e . D o I t h i n k s h e 19

w o u l d c h a l l e n g e m e i f s h e b e l i e v e d w h a t 20

I w a s d o i n g w a s n o t p r o p e r ? I w o u l d 21

e x p e c t n o t h i n g l e s s . 22

S o o t h e r t h a n t h a t , a s I 23

s a i d , t h i s w a s a s p e c i a l m e e t i n g o n a 24

s u b j e c t t h a t w a s b a s e d o n s p e c i f i c 25

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f a c t s a n d i n f o r m a t i o n t h a t w a s 1

p r e s e n t e d t o y o u r M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l . 2

I f w e w o u l d n ' t h a v e a c t e d o n i t , a n d i f 3

i t w o u l d h a v e c o m e o u t , y o u w o u l d 4

p r o b a b l y , s o m e o f y o u w o u l d b e t h e s a m e 5

p e o p l e w h o w o u l d b e u p h e r e c r i t i c i z i n g 6

M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l s a y i n g M a y o r a n d 7

C o u n c i l h a d t h i s i n f o r m a t i o n a n d y o u 8

d i d n o t h i n g . 9

I f y o u w a n t t o c r i t i c i z e 10

t h e f a c t s , t h e n t h a t ' s f i n e . T h e f a c t s 11

a r e p r e s e n t e d a n d p u t i n t o t h e r e c o r d . 12

B u t t o h a v e a s m o k e s c r e e n o n p e r s o n a l 13

v e n d e t t a s a n d t a r g e t i n g , w h a t i n t h e 14

f a c t s t h a t w e r e p r e s e n t e d s h o w e d 15

a n y t h i n g i n t h a t r e g a r d ? 16

E v e r y o n e h a s a r i g h t t o 17

t h e i r o p i n i o n . Y o u a l l h a v e a r i g h t t o 18

y o u r o p i n i o n . W e a r e t a x p a y e r s a n d 19

r e s i d e n t s , a n d w e h a v e a r i g h t t o o u r 20

o p i n i o n . 21

S o d o e s a n y o n e e l s e h a v e 22

a n y c o m m e n t s o n t h e s t a t e m e n t s m a d e b y 23

t h e p u b l i c ? 24

T h e n w e w i l l m o v e t o 25

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n u m b e r s e v e n , r e m o v a l o f a p p o i n t e e s n o t 1

i n c o m p l i a n c e w i t h R e s o l u t i o n 2 0 1 8 - 6 7 . 2

D o I h a v e t o c a l l f o r a 3

m o t i o n . 4

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 5

Y o u h a v e t o c a l l f o r a 6

m o t i o n . 7

M A Y O R K U H N : 8

D o I h a v e a m o t i o n ? 9

M R . P E T R U C C I : 10

M a y o r K u h n , I ' l l m a k e a 11

m o t i o n t o r e m o v e t h e l i s t o f p e r s o n s 12

w h o a r e n o t i n c o m p l i a n c e - - - . 13

M A Y O R K U H N : 14

D o I h a v e a s e c o n d ? 15

M R . P E T R U C C I : 16

S e c o n d . 17

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 18

D i d y o u f i n i s h y o u r 19

m o t i o n ? 20

M R . P E T R U C C I : 21

R e m o v a l o f p e r s o n s n o t i n 22

c o m p l i a n c e t h a t s i t o n b o a r d s . 23

M A Y O R K U H N : 24

I s t h e r e a p r o b l e m ? 25

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M R . A L E X A N D E R : 1

I d i d n ' t t h i n k J o h n w a s 2

f i n i s h e d w i t h h i s m o t i o n . 3

M A Y O R K U H N : 4

O h , I ' m s o r r y . G o a h e a d , 5

J o h n . I a p o l o g i z e . 6

M R . P E T R U C C I : 7

N o , I f i n i s h e d i t . I t 8

w a s f o r r e m o v a l o f p e r s o n s s i t t i n g o n 9

b o a r d s t h a t a r e n o t i n c o m p l i a n c e w i t h 10

t h e b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k . A n d i f w e c a n , 11

c a n w e r e a d w h o ' s o n t h e l i s t ? 12

M A Y O R K U H N : 13

N o w d o I h a v e a s e c o n d ? 14

C O U N C I L M E M B E R : 15

S e c o n d . 16

M A Y O R K U H N : 17

M o t i o n m a d e a n d s e c o n d e d . 18

U p o n t h e a p p o i n t e d 19

o f f i c i a l s w h o f a i l e d t o c o m p l y w i t h t h e 20

r e s o l u t i o n t h a t w a s i n p l a c e , I a m 21

a s k i n g f o r t h e i d e n t i c a l l e t t e r t h a t i s 22

b e i n g s e n t t o M r . C h i a p p i n e l l i t o b e 23

s e n t t o A r l e n e H o l t z , P e n n H i l l s A r t s 24

C o u n c i l ; N i c k L a m i a , P e n n H i l l s A r t s 25

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C o u n c i l ; J e a n M e y e r , P e n n H i l l s L i b r a r y 1

B o a r d ; P a t r i c k T a s s a r i , P e r s o n n e l 2

B o a r d ; a n d M r . C h i a p p i n e l l i , P l a n n i n g 3

C o m m i s s i o n . 4

N o w , R i t a S p a l d i n g f r o m 5

t h e P e n n H i l l s A r t s C o u n c i l , h e r l e t t e r 6

w a s r e t u r n e d , r e t u r n e d t o s e n d e r , a s 7

w a s A n t h o n y S o l a z z o , U C C B o a r d o f 8

A p p e a l s , r e t u r n e d t o s e n d e r , n o t 9

r e c e i v e d . 10

A n d a s I s a i d t h a t , i f 11

t h e y a p p e a r i n p e r s o n a n d s h a r e 12

d o c u m e n t s a n d c l e a r a n c e s , t h a t w o u l d 13

h a v e e l i m i n a t e d a l l o f t h i s . 14

S o t h e s e p e o p l e w h o h a v e 15

n o t c o m p l i e d b y t h e r e s o l u t i o n i n p l a c e 16

b y t h e P e n n H i l l s M u n i c i p a l i t y , t h e y 17

t o o w i l l b e r e c e i v i n g t h e i d e n t i c a l 18

l e t t e r t h a t i s b e i n g s e n t o u t t o M r . 19

C h i a p p i n e l l i . S o I d o n ' t k n o w w h y w e 20

w o u l d b e t a r g e t i n g t h e s e p e o p l e , s o 21

t h a t w o u l d b e s p e c u l a t i o n t h a t y o u c a n 22

h a n d l e . 23

I d o n ' t k n o w h o w w e c a n 24

a r g u e v i o l a t i o n o f a r e s o l u t i o n t h a t i s 25

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i n p l a c e . A n d I d o n ' t k n o w h o w w e c a n 1

a r g u e b e i n g t o e v e r y p o s s i b l e w a y 2

c a r e f u l o n t h e g u n v i o l e n c e t h a t h a s 3

b e e n h a p p e n i n g t h r o u g h o u t o u r c o u n t r y . 4

A n d j u s t a p e r s o n a l n o t e , 5

a n d i t ' s m y p e r s o n a l f e e l i n g s , t h e s e 6

t e r r i b l e t r a g e d i e s a r e n o t d o n e b y 7

m i n o r i t y c o m m u n i t i e s . T h e s e p e r s o n a l 8

t r a g e d i e s a r e n o t d o n e b y y o u n g 9

A f r i c a n - A m e r i c a n c o m m u n i t y . T h e y a r e 10

n o t d o n e b y i m m i g r a n t s . T h e y a r e d o n e 11

b y p e o p l e t h a t e v e r y o n e i s w i t h , k n o w s , 12

h a s t a l k e d t o , r e l a t e s t o , b u t d i d n o t 13

s e e t h e s i g n s . 14

S o i f y o u w a n t t o 15

c r i t i c i z e M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l f o r b e i n g 16

o v e r p r o t e c t i v e , t h a t ' s y o u r c h o i c e . 17

B u t a b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k , i f y o u h a v e 18

n o t h i n g t o h i d e a n d n o t h i n g t h a t y o u 19

d o n ' t w a n t t o b e s h o w n , t h e r e ' s n o 20

r e a s o n n o t t o p r e s e n t w h a t t h e 21

m u n i c i p a l i t y h a s p u t i n t o p l a c e . 22

A n d a s I s a i d , i f y o u 23

d i d n ' t l i k e w h a t w e d i d , t h e n y o u c a n 24

r e s i g n f r o m t h e B o a r d . B u t a l l t h e s e 25

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c o m m e n t s t h a t e v e r y o n e h a s , w e a r e 1

h a v i n g a h a b i t o f b r i n g i n g u p c o m m e n t s 2

a f t e r t h e y h a v e b e e n p u b l i c i z e d , 3

p u b l i c l y d i s c u s s e d , a n d t h e n v o t e d o n . 4

A n d t h a t ' s n o t a g o o d h a b i t . 5

W e m a k e e v e r y a t t e m p t t o 6

m a k e t h e a g e n d a a c c e s s i b l e . R e a d t h e 7

a g e n d a . I f t h e r e i s s o m e t h i n g t h a t y o u 8

a r e n o t s a t i s f i e d w i t h , t h a t y o u w a n t 9

t o m a k e a c o m m e n t o n , t h e t i m e i s t o d o 10

i t p r i o r t o t h e v o t e . 11

I a m s o r r y i f a n y o n e h a s 12

b e e n o f f e n d e d . T h i s w a s p u r e a n d 13

s i m p l e , a f a c t u a l m e e t i n g . W h a t w e a r e 14

d o i n g t o d a y i s v o t i n g o n a p p r o v a l t o 15

m a i l o u t t h e l e t t e r s . O n c e t h e y g e t 16

t h e i r l e t t e r s , t h e y h a v e 1 5 d a y s t o 17

h a v e a h e a r i n g . A f t e r t h e h e a r i n g , 18

t h e n M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l w i l l v o t e o n 19

w h e t h e r t o r e m o v e . T h a t ' s t h e p r o c e s s 20

a n d t h a t i s t h e p r o c e s s t h a t M a y o r a n d 21

C o u n c i l h a s f o l l o w e d . 22

T h a n k y o u a l l f o r c o m i n g . 23

D o I h a v e t o a s k f o r a 24

v o t e ? 25

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M R . A L E X A N D E R : 1

Y o u d o . B u t m a y I m a k e a 2

c o m m e n t ? 3

M A Y O R K U H N : 4

Y e s . 5

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 6

Y o u r e f e r e n c e d l e t t e r s 7

t h a t y o u ' r e g o i n g t o s e n d t o t h e n a m e d 8

i n d i v i d u a l s t h a t y o u p u t f o r t h t h a t 9

d i d n ' t c o m p l y , a n d y o u t a l k e d a b o u t t h e 10

o n e p e r s o n t h a t w a s g o i n g t o g e t a 11

l e t t e r . A n d t h a t ' s b e c a u s e t h e 12

m u n i c i p a l i t y ' s p l a n n i n g c o d e r e q u i r e s 13

t h a t a d d i t i o n a l d u e p r o c e s s o f 1 5 d a y s 14

o f n o t i c e . S o y o u ' r e g o i n g t o g i v e 15

t h a t a d d i t i o n a l d u e p r o c e s s t o e v e r y o n e 16

t h a t ' s o n t h a t l i s t , i s m y 17

u n d e r s t a n d i n g ? 18

M A Y O R K U H N : 19

I ' m s o r r y . I d i d n ' t m a k e 20

t h a t c l e a r . W e w i l l d o w h a t t h e l a w 21

s t a t e s w e h a v e t o d o f o r p l a n n i n g a n d 22

z o n i n g . 23

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 24

A n d a p p l y i t t o 25

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e v e r y b o d y ? 1

M A Y O R K U H N : 2

B u t b e i n g t h a t i t d o e s n ' t 3

a p p e a r t h a t t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y i s 4

t a r g e t i n g . W e a l s o w a n t t o s e n d t h e 5

l e t t e r s o u t t o t h e o t h e r s w h o h a v e - - - . 6

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 7

S o j u s t s o t h e p u b l i c ' s 8

a w a r e , t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y ' s p l a n n i n g c o d e 9

r e q u i r e s f o r P l a n n i n g C o m m i s s i o n 10

m e m b e r s a n d Z o n i n g H e a r i n g B o a r d 11

m e m b e r s o n l y t h a t a l e t t e r b e s e n t t o 12

t h e m p r i o r t o t h e i r r e m o v a l , 1 5 d a y s 13

p r i o r t o t h e i r r e m o v a l , n o t i c e t h a t 14

r e m o v a l ' s a c o n s i d e r a t i o n . A n d d u r i n g 15

t h a t 1 5 d a y s , t h e y h a v e t h e o p p o r t u n i t y 16

t o r e q u e s t a h e a r i n g o n w h y t h e y 17

s h o u l d n ' t b e r e m o v e d . 18

S o t h a t ' s w h a t t h e M a y o r 19

w a s t a l k i n g a b o u t w h e n s h e t a l k e d a b o u t 20

a l e t t e r b e i n g s e n t t o M r . C h i a p p i n e l l i 21

b e c a u s e h e ' s o n o n e o f t h o s e t w o 22

b o a r d s . A n d w h a t I h e a r d t h e M a y o r 23

s a y , w i t h r e g a r d t o t h e o t h e r f o l k s i s 24

t h a t s h e ' s g o i n g t o a p p l y , o r r a t h e r , 25

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M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l ' s g o i n g t o a p p l y t h a t 1

s a m e l e v e l o f d u e p r o c e s s e v e n t h o u g h 2

t h e o t h e r m e m b e r s , t h e o t h e r B o a r d 3

m e m b e r s s i t a t t h e p l e a s u r e o f C o u n c i l . 4

T h e y c a n b e r e m o v e d a t a n y t i m e f o r a n y 5

r e a s o n . B u t t h e y ' r e g o i n g t o a p p l y 6

t h a t s a m e l e v e l o f d u e p r o c e s s t o t h o s e 7

o t h e r B o a r d m e m b e r s a n d g i v e t h e m t h e 8

1 5 d a y s t o r e q u e s t t h e h e a r i n g a s w e l l . 9

A n d I j u s t w a n t t o s t a t e 10

w i t h r e g a r d t o t h e c o m m e n t s t h a t I 11

h e a r d w i t h r e g a r d t o t h e b a c k g r o u n d 12

c h e c k s , J e r r y s t a t e d w h a t h a p p e n e d 4 5 13

y e a r s a g o a n d t h e p r o c e s s o f h o w t h a t 14

h a p p e n e d , t h a t h o w i t w e n t d o w n t o w n . 15

I j u s t g l a n c e d a t t h e 16

d o c u m e n t s t h a t w e r e r e f e r e n c e d e a r l i e r 17

t o d a y , a n d y o u k n o w , I h e a r d M s . 18

C a l a b r e s e s a y t h a t i t w a s d i s m i s s e d . I 19

h e a r d R i t a , J e r r y ' s s i s t e r , s a y t h a t i t 20

w a s d i s m i s s e d . I c a n ' t s e e a n y w h e r e i n 21

t h a t d o c u m e n t t h a t I l o o k e d t h a t i t w a s 22

d i s m i s s e d . A n d I b e l i e v e t h e m , i t 23

p r o b a b l y w a s . B u t i t ' s n o t i n t h e 24

d o c u m e n t . 25

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A n d f o r w h a t e v e r r e a s o n , 1

i t ' s a C o m m o n P l e a s d o c u m e n t t h a t t h e y 2

h a v e . I t ' s t h e d o c k e t f r o m t h e C o u r t 3

o f C o m m o n P l e a s . A n d m y k n o w l e d g e o f 4

c r i m i n a l l a w , I d o n ' t h a v e v a s t 5

k n o w l e d g e o f c r i m i n a l l a w , b u t I h a v e 6

s o m e k n o w l e d g e o f c r i m i n a l l a w , a n d 7

w h e n t h i n g s a r e d i s m i s s e d a t t h e 8

m a g i s t e r i a l l e v e l , i t n e v e r g e t s t o 9

C o m m o n P l e a s . S o t h e r e w o u l d n ' t b e a 10

C o m m o n P l e a s d o c k e t i f i t g o t d i s m i s s e d 11

a t t h e m a g i s t e r i a l l e v e l . W e l l , J e r r y 12

e x p l a i n e d t h a t . H e s a i d b a c k i n t h e 13

d a y , i t w e n t d o w n t o w n . A n d t h a t ' s w h y 14

t h e r e ' s a c r i m i n a l d o c k e t d o w n t o w n . 15

W e l l , t h i s M a y o r a n d 16

C o u n c i l d o e s n ' t k n o w t h a t . A l l t h e y 17

s e e i s w h a t t h e y s e e o n p a p e r . A n d h a d 18

t h a t b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k b e e n t u r n e d i n 19

a n d s a i d n o c r i m i n a l r e c o r d , b o o m , e n d 20

o f i t . T h a t ' s t h e w h o l e p u r p o s e o f t h e 21

c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k . 22

S o l i s t e n . I - - - t h i s 23

p e r s o n w o u l d n e v e r t a r g e t a n y b o d y b a s e d 24

o n m e r e a l l e g a t i o n s . N e v e r . T h e 25

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b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s a r e i n p l a c e t o 1

a s s u r e t h a t m e r e a l l e g a t i o n s a r e n ' t 2

c o n s i d e r e d . 3

B y a l l M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l 4

h a s a t t h i s p o i n t a r e t h o s e m e r e 5

a l l e g a t i o n s , a n d i t ' s a c r i m i n a l d o c k e t 6

d o w n t o w n , s o i t a p p e a r s t h a t i t w e n t 7

d o w n t o w n . S o t h e y h a d s o m e 8

r e s p o n s i b i l i t y t o l o o k a t t h a t a n d t a k e 9

a c t i o n . T h a t ' s a l l . A n d t h a t ' s w h y 10

t h e s e l e t t e r s a r e g e t t i n g s e n t o u t , t o 11

g i v e t h o s e f o l k s t h e o p p o r t u n i t y t o 12

c o m e i n a n d s a y l o o k , h e r e ' s n o 13

c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d . T h a t ' s a l l I h a v e 14

t o s a y . 15

M R . A N D R E J C H A K : 16

C r a i g , i f I c o u l d j u s t 17

a d d o n e t h i n g t o i t , t h e t w o l e t t e r s 18

t h a t w e r e s e n t o u t , t h e l e t t e r s a i d i f 19

y o u h a v e a n y q u e s t i o n s o r c o n c e r n s , 20

c a l l o r s t o p i n . S o w e d i d p u t t h a t i n 21

t h e l e t t e r , t h a t f o l k s t h a t g o t t h a t 22

l e t t e r c o u l d h a v e c a l l e d i f t h e y c h o s e . 23

I j u s t w a n t e d t o a d d t h a t i n t o t h e 24

r e c o r d . 25

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M A Y O R K U H N : 1

T h a n k y o u , S o l i c i t o r . 2

D i d I - - - I h a d b o t h m y m o t i o n s a n d 3

s e c o n d . R o l l c a l l ? 4

M S . S O R C E : 5

D e p u t y M a y o r S a p p ? 6

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 7

C a t h y , t h e y j u s t c a l l e d 8

f o r t h e v o t e . 9

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 10

Y e s . I h a v e a q u e s t i o n 11

b e f o r e t h e v o t e . I w a s t r y i n g t o - - - I 12

w a s g o i n g t o t a l k a f t e r C r a i g g o t 13

f i n i s h e d . 14

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 15

S h e h a s a q u e s t i o n b e f o r e 16

t h e v o t e . 17

M R . A N D R E J C H A K : 18

G o a h e a d . 19

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 20

O k a y . M y q u e s t i o n i s , i s 21

t h a t l a s t l e t t e r t h a t ' s g o i n g t o b e 22

s e n t o u t , t h e f i n a l l e t t e r , i s i t g o i n g 23

t o i n c l u d e t h e o p t i o n s t h a t a p e r s o n 24

h a s t h e o p t i o n t o c o m e u p a n d s h o w 25

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t h e i r c l e a r a n c e s a n d t h e n t h a t w i l l b e 1

s a t i s f i e d ? 2

M A Y O R K U H N : 3

I b e l i e v e , a n d I ' l l h a v e 4

t h e S o l i c i t o r g i v e h i s o p i n i o n , b u t I 5

b e l i e v e t h e r e s o l u t i o n i s f o r c r i m i n a l 6

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s . I d o n ' t k n o w i f 7

t h a t ' s t h e s a m e a s c l e a r a n c e . 8

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 9

T h a t i s t h e s a m e a s 10

c l e a r a n c e . 11

M A Y O R K U H N : 12

I s t h a t ? 13

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 14

Y e s . 15

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 16

W e l l , t h e c r i m i n a l - - - 17

i t ' s i n t e r c h a n g e a b l e , b u t t h e 18

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k , i s i t g o i n g t o b e 19

a d d e d i n t h e l e t t e r - - - 20

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 21

W h a t t h e d e p u t y - - - . 22

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 23

- - - t h i s f i n a l l e t t e r 24

t h a t w e ' r e g o i n g t o b e s e n d i n g o u t , 25

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t h a t t h e - - - 1

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 2

W h a t t h e - - - . 3

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 4

- - - m e m b e r o r t h e s e a t e d 5

B o a r d m e m b e r h a s t h e o p t i o n t o c o m e a n d 6

s u b m i t t h e i r c l e a r a n c e s - - - 7

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 8

W h a t t h e D e p u t y M a y o r i s 9

a s k i n g , M a y o r - - - . 10

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 11

- - - t h e m s e l v e s . 12

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 13

W h a t t h e D e p u t y M a y o r i s 14

a s k i n g , M a y o r , i s i s t h e f i n a l l e t t e r 15

t h a t I ' m s e n d i n g o u t , a r e w e g o i n g t o 16

i n c l u d e o p t i o n s i n t h a t l e t t e r t h a t 17

s t a t e t h a t t h e a f f e c t e d i n d i v i d u a l s 18

t h a t h a v e n ' t c o m p l i e d a r e p e r m i t t e d t o 19

b r i n g t h o s e c l e a r a n c e s t o t h e 20

m u n i c i p a l i t y , t h o s e c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d 21

c h e c k s t o t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y , a l l o w t h e 22

m a n a g e r t o r e v i e w t h e m t o e n s u r e t h a t 23

t h e r e ' s n o c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d , a n d 24

w i l l t h a t s a t i s f y M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l t o 25

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s t a y i n t h e i r s e a t e d p o s i t i o n ? 1

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 2

Y e s , t h a t ' s w h a t I ' m 3

a s k i n g . 4

M A Y O R K U H N : 5

W e l l , I ' l l h a v e t o a s k 6

C o u n s e l , C a t h y , b u t I h a v e n o p r o b l e m 7

w i t h t h a t , e v e n t h o u g h t h a t ' s n o t t h e 8

d u e p r o c e s s t h a t w e a r e t o f o l l o w . B u t 9

c o n t r a r y t o - - - . 10

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 11

T h e s e a r e - - - . 12

M A Y O R K U H N : 13

J u s t a m i n u t e , h o n . 14

C o n t r a r y t o w h a t t h e p u b l i c h a s s t a t e d 15

t o d a y , a l l t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y w a s a s k i n g 16

f o r w a s c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s o r 17

c l e a r a n c e s , w h a t e v e r t h e w o r d , t h a t ' s 18

a l l w e w e r e a s k i n g f o r . 19

A n d a s I s a i d , w e w e n t 20

t h r o u g h s i x t o e i g h t m o n t h s t r y i n g t o 21

w o r k w i t h e v e r y o n e t o r e c e i v e t h a t . 22

A n d j u s t f o r t h e r e c o r d , I w i l l g o 23

a l o n g w i t h y o u r r e q u e s t , b u t j u s t f o r 24

t h e r e c o r d , i t w o u l d h a v e b e e n 25

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p r o f e s s i o n a l a n d r e s p e c t f u l i f t h o s e 1

w h o c h o s e n o t t o s e n d i n t h e c r i m i n a l 2

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k s h a d m a d e a p h o n e c a l l 3

o r c a m e u p a n d s a i d , i f I b r i n g t h i s u p 4

m y s e l f a n d y o u c h e c k i t a n d t h e n I c a n 5

t a k e i t b a c k , t h a t ' s a l l w e w e r e a s k i n g 6

f o r . 7

B u t a l l t h e c o m m e n t s t h a t 8

w e r e m a d e t o d a y , t h e r e w a s n o c o m m e n t 9

a s t o w h y , f r o m J a n u a r y t o A u g u s t , 10

t h o s e w h o d i d n ' t c o m p l y m a d e a n a t t e m p t 11

t o a s k i f t h e y c o u l d d o s o m e t h i n g l i k e 12

w h a t y o u a r e p u t t i n g i n p o w e r . 13

T h i s i s n o t s o m e t h i n g 14

t h a t i s p o l i t i c a l o r w a s t o b e a c i r c u s 15

a r e n a . T h i s w a s s o m e t h i n g t h a t w e , a s 16

C o u n c i l , f e l t w a s t h e r i g h t t h i n g t o 17

d o . W e d i d n o t , F e b r u a r y 1 6 , j u m p d o w n 18

e v e r y b o d y ' s t h r o a t a n d s a y , w e l l , 19

y o u ' r e o f f . 20

A n d y o u k n o w , C a t h y , w e 21

h a v e g o n e o v e r a n d o v e r w h a t w e c o u l d 22

i m p l e m e n t i n t o t h e r e s o l u t i o n f o r t h e 23

p r o t e c t i o n o f t h e p e o p l e . B u t w e f a c e d 24

t h i s 25

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- - - . 1

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 2

L i s t e n , I d o n ' t t h i n k i t 3

w a s c o m m u n i c a t e d w e l l w i t h - - - 4

M A Y O R K U H N : 5

R i g h t . 6

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 7

- - - t h o s e l e t t e r s . 8

M A Y O R K U H N : 9

I h a v e n o p r o b l e m - - - 10

n o w , I d o n ' t k n o w w h a t t h e o t h e r 11

C o u n c i l w i l l d o , b u t I m y s e l f h a v e n o 12

p r o b l e m w i t h a m e n d i n g t h e m o t i o n t o 13

i n c l u d e t h a t a l l w h o w o u l d w a n t t o 14

b r i n g t h e i r c l e a r a n c e u p t h e m s e l v e s , 15

b u t I w i l l s t a t e t h i s . A s I s t a t e d , 16

I ' m a g a i n s t g u n v i o l e n c e . I d o n ' t c a r e 17

w h e n i t h a p p e n e d o r w h e n i t d i d n ' t . 18

A n y f e l o n y w i t h g u n v i o l e n c e w i l l n o t 19

b e a c c e p t e d b y m y v o t e . 20

S o C o u n c i l m a n P e t r u c c i , 21

d o y o u w a n t t o p u t t h a t i n o r n o t ? 22

M R . P E T R U C C I : 23

J u s t f o r t h e r e c o r d , t h i s 24

w i l l b e t h e t h i r d - - - . 25

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M A Y O R K U H N : 1

P a r d o n ? 2

M R . P E T R U C C I : 3

J u s t f o r t h e r e c o r d , t h i s 4

w i l l b e t h e t h i r d c h a n c e t h a t w e ' r e 5

g i v i n g t h e s e p e o p l e o n B o a r d t o s u b m i t 6

t o t h e c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d . T h e t h i r d 7

t i m e . A m I r i g h t ? 8

M R . A N D R E J C H A K : 9

T h a t w o u l d b e c o r r e c t . 10

M R . P E T R U C C I : 11

M a n a g e r A n d r e j c h a k s a i d 12

t h a t ' s c o r r e c t . 13

M R . A N D R E J C H A K : 14

H e s a i d t h i s w i l l b e t h e 15

t h i r d t i m e t h a t t h e y ' r e g i v e n t h e 16

o p p o r t u n i t y t o d o t h a t , a n d h e j u s t 17

w a n t e d i t i n t h e r e c o r d . 18

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 19

W e l l , i t w a s j u s t b r o u g h t 20

u p a t t h e l a s t - - - a t t h e p r i o r C o u n c i l 21

m e e t i n g , a n d t h a t ' s i n t h e r e c o r d . S o 22

t h a t l e t t e r d i d n o t - - - t h e l e t t e r t h a t 23

w e n t o u t t o t h o s e p e o p l e w h o d i d n ' t 24

c o m p l y , t h a t d i d n o t i n c l u d e t h a t 25

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o p t i o n . 1

M R . A N D R E J C H A K : 2

C o r r e c t , C a t h y , D e p u t y 3

M a y o r . 4

M A Y O R K U H N : 5

S o C a t h y , y o u a r e s t a t i n g 6

t h e n t h a t y o u a r e n o t a g a i n s t t h e 7

c r i m i n a l c h e c k s . I s t h a t c o r r e c t ? 8

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 9

I a m d e f i n i t e l y n o t 10

a g a i n s t t h e c r i m i n a l b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k . 11

I ' m a g a i n s t t h e p r o c e s s . 12

M A Y O R K U H N : 13

O k a y . B u t a s l o n g a s 14

t h e y p r e s e n t t h e c r i m i n a l c h e c k a s w a s 15

s u g g e s t e d b y t h e S o l i c i t o r , p e r s o n a l l y 16

b y t h e m s e l v e s , t h e n t h a t ' s w h a t y o u a r e 17

a s k i n g t o h a v e p l a c e d i n t o t h e m o t i o n ? 18

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 19

Y e s , t h a t ' s w h a t I ' m - - - 20

t h a t ' s w h a t I ' m a s k i n g . 21

A n d a l s o , j u s t t o m a k e a 22

q u i c k c o m m e n t , g u n v i o l e n c e , I ' m a l s o 23

a g a i n s t g u n v i o l e n c e . I d o n ' t s u p p o r t 24

g u n v i o l e n c e . H o w e v e r , I d o s u p p o r t 25

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d e f e n d i n g y o u r s e l f . A n d i f y o u a r e 1

l i c e n s e d t o c a r r y a n d y o u n e e d t o 2

d e f e n d y o u r s e l f , t h a t ' s t h e w h o l e 3

r e a s o n w e h a v e t h e l i c e n s e s . S o I ' m 4

n o t a g a i n s t d e f e n d i n g y o u r s e l f w i t h a 5

f i r e a r m . 6

M A Y O R K U H N : 7

W e l l , I a g r e e i n 8

d e f e n d i n g y o u r s e l f . B u t i f y o u ' r e 9

r e l a t i n g t o t h e p a r t i c u l a r s t h a t w e r e 10

i n M r . C h i a p p i n e l l i ' s c r i m i n a l 11

c o m m e n t s , t h e - - - I d o n ' t b e l i e v e t h a t 12

w a s n e c e s s a r y . T h e o t h e r p e r s o n d i d n ' t 13

h a v e a w e a p o n . A n d f r o m w h a t I r e a d i n 14

t h e - - - t h e r e w a s n o c o m m e n t i n t h e 15

c r i m i n a l r e p o r t t h a t h i s f a t h e r w a s 16

i n v o l v e d o r w a s b e i n g b e a t e n u p . I t 17

w a s b e c a u s e t h e g e n t l e m a n h a d d o n e 18

s o m e t h i n g t o h i s c a r . 19

A n d I d o n o t f e e l t h a t w e 20

a r e a s o c i e t y t h a t t o d a y , w e c a n s a y , 21

w e l l , i f y o u h a v e a p e r m i t t o c a r r y a 22

w e a p o n , a n d i f s o m e o n e i s d o i n g d a m a g e 23

t o y o u r c a r , i t w a s n ' t t h a t h e w a s 24

p r o t e c t i n g h i m s e l f b e c a u s e t h e c r i m i n a l 25

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d o c u m e n t s t a t e d t h a t M r . C h i a p p i n e l l i 1

w a s b e a t i n g t h e g e n t l e m a n ' s h e a d 2

a g a i n s t t h e c a r . A n d t h e n h e t o o k t h e 3

g u n o u t a n d f i r e d i t . 4

S o I a m n o t g o i n g t o b e 5

o f t h e o p i n i o n t h a t w e a r e t o o v e r l o o k 6

a n d m a k e e x c e p t i o n s a f t e r e x c e p t i o n s 7

a f t e r e x c e p t i o n s . W e - - - t h i s w a s 8

- - - . 9

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 10

R i g h t . A n d I ' m o k a y w i t h 11

t h a t , M a y o r . 12

M A Y O R K U H N : 13

T h i s w i l l b e - - - t h i s 14

w i l l b e t h e t h i r d l e t t e r t h a t w a s s e n t 15

o u t . A n d I k n o w t h a t I h a d d i s c u s s e d 16

t h i s w i t h y o u w h e n I s a i d f o r a B o a r d 17

m e m b e r , e s p e c i a l l y o n p e r s o n n e l o r 18

z o n i n g , t o b l a t a n t l y i g n o r e a r u l e o f 19

t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y a n d m a k e n o a t t e m p t t o 20

g i v e a r e a s o n a s t o w h y , I b e l i e v e t h e 21

m u n i c i p a l i t y a n d M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l h a v e 22

b e e n m o r e t h a n l e n i e n t a n d m o r e t h a n 23

p a t i e n t . S o - - - . 24

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 25

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W e l l , I ' m n o t s u r e , 1

M a y o r , i f t h e o t h e r p e o p l e l i s t e d o n 2

t h a t l i s t w h o d i d n ' t c o m p l y , i f t h e y 3

c a m e t o t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y o r n o t . B u t I 4

d o k n o w t h a t J e r r y C h i a p p i n e l l i d i d 5

c o m e t o t h e m u n i c i p a l i t y a n d h e d i d 6

m e n t i o n t o S c o t t t h a t h e w a s n ' t g o i n g 7

t o t u r n i n t h e b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k . S o h e 8

d i d d o t h a t . I n a l l o f t h e i r d e f e n s e 9

- - - . 10

M A Y O R K U H N : 11

W e l l , I d o w a n t t o d o 12

t h a t , b u t I d o n ' t w a n t i t t o b e p u t i n 13

t h e r e t h a t i t w i l l b e a t t h e d i s c r e t i o n 14

o f M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l n o t k n o w i n g w h o 15

- - - w h a t a d m i n i s t r a t i o n w o u l d b e i n 16

t h e r e . 17

A s t o - - - i t ' s t h e 18

C o u r t ' s d e c i s i o n t o s a y i f t h e p e r s o n 19

w a s d i s c h a r g i n g a w e a p o n f o r h i s o w n 20

p r o t e c t i o n , a n d t h a t l a n g u a g e w a s n o t 21

p u t i n t o t h e c r i m i n a l r e p o r t . 22

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 23

O k a y . A n d f o r t h e s a k e 24

o f t i m e , I ' m j u s t g o i n g t o e n d w i t h 25

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t h i s n o t e , M a y o r . I a m l i c e n s e d t o 1

c a r r y . A n d t h i s i s t o t h e p u b l i c a s 2

w e l l . A n d i f I f e e l t h r e a t e n e d a t a n y 3

t i m e - - - I c o m m e n d J e r r y C h i a p p i n e l l i 4

f o r f i r i n g i n t o t h e a i r b e c a u s e i f I 5

f e e l t h r e a t e n e d a n d I n e e d t o f i r e m y 6

f i r e a r m , I ' m g o i n g t o m a k e s u r e t h a t I 7

m a k e c o n t a c t w i t h m y t a r g e t . 8

M A Y O R K U H N : 9

W e l l , e v e r y o n e c a n d o 10

w h a t t h e y c h o o s e . B u t I d o n ' t w a n t - - - 11

I w o u l d d e f i n i t e l y n o t w a n t , e s p e c i a l l y 12

a n y o n e w h o h a s a - - - s o m e w h a t o f a 13

m e n t a l h e a l t h p r o b l e m o r a y o u n g p e r s o n 14

t o b e a b l e t o s a y t h a t t h e y ' r e g o i n g t o 15

t a k e a g u n t o a f i g h t a n d h a v e o p e n 16

s h o o t i n g s b e c a u s e o f t h e f a c t t h e y 17

t h o u g h t t h e y w e r e b e i n g u n p r o t e c t e d . 18

B u t t h a t ' s s o m e t h i n g f o r t h e C o u r t t o 19

d e c i d e , n o t y o u o r I , C a t h y . 20

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 21

O k a y , t h e n . A l l r i g h t . 22

T h a t w a s j u s t a c o m m e n t . 23

M A Y O R K U H N : 24

S o w e ' l l d r o p i t a t t h a t . 25

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Y o u h a v e y o u r o p i n i o n , I h a v e m i n e . 1

A n d a s I s a i d , t h a t ' s n o t f o r M a y o r a n d 2

C o u n c i l , i n m y o p i n i o n , t o d e c i d e 3

w h e t h e r o r n o t t h e p e r s o n f e l t t h a t h e 4

w a s i n p e r s o n a l h a r m t o b e d o n e t o h i m . 5

T h a t ' s n o t m y d e c i s i o n . T h a t ' s t h e 6

C o u r t ' s d e c i s i o n . 7

A l l r i g h t . D o I h a v e a 8

m o t i o n t o a m e n d t h e m o t i o n t h a t w a s 9

p r e s e n t e d a n d t o i n c l u d e t h a t o n c e t h e 10

l e t t e r s a r e s e n t o u t , t h e y a r e g i v e n 1 5 11

d a y s t o h a v e a h e a r i n g o r t o p r e s e n t t o 12

M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l t h e i r c r i m i n a l 13

b a c k g r o u n d c h e c k , w h i c h i s s a t i s f a c t o r y 14

t o M a y o r a n d C o u n c i l a s t o w h a t t h e y 15

a r e p r e s e n t i n g ? I n e e d a m o t i o n f o r 16

t h a t a m e n d m e n t . C a t h y ? 17

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 18

O h , y e s , y e s . I ' m s o r r y , 19

M a y o r . I t ' s h a r d t o h e a r y o u . C a n y o u 20

- - - a r e y o u a s k i n g m e f o r m y v o t e ? 21

M A Y O R K U H N : 22

S o y o u ' r e m a k i n g t h e 23

m o t i o n ? 24

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 25

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I t h i n k p r o p e r p r o c e d u r e 1

w o u l d b e f o r J o h n t o e i t h e r w i t h d r a w 2

h i s m o t i o n a n d p u t a n e w m o t i o n o n t h e 3

f l o o r , o r J o h n t o a m e n d h i s m o t i o n a n d 4

h a v e G a r y s e c o n d t h a t a m e n d m e n t . 5

M A Y O R K U H N : 6

O k a y . G a r y , y o u s e c o n d 7

t h e m o t i o n o r a r e y o u g o i n g t o r e s c i n d ? 8

M R . U N D E R W O O D : 9

S e c o n d . 10

M A Y O R K U H N : 11

J o h n ? 12

M R . P E T R U C C I : 13

W h a t a m I d o i n g ? 14

R e s c i n d i n g m y m o t i o n ? 15

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 16

Y o u ' r e e i t h e r g o i n g t o 17

r e s c i n d y o u r m o t i o n o r s o t h a t s o m e b o d y 18

e l s e c a n m a k e a m o t i o n o r a m e n d y o u r 19

m o t i o n . 20

M R . P E T R U C C I : 21

O k a y . I ' l l r e s c i n d m y 22

m o t i o n . G o a h e a d . 23

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 24

O k a y . A n d y o u r e s c i n d 25

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y o u r s e c o n d . 1

M R . U N D E R W O O D : 2

S o n o w i t ' s - - - n o w t h e 3

t a b l e i s a v a i l a b l e f o r a n e w m o t i o n . 4

M A Y O R K U H N : 5

O k a y . D o I h a v e a n e w 6

m o t i o n t o a d d t h e l a n g u a g e i n t o t h e 7

m o t i o n t h a t w a s p r e s e n t e d s t a t i n g t h a t 8

t h o s e w h o r e c e i v e t h i s l e t t e r w i t h i n 9

t h e 1 5 d a y s t h a t i s a l l o w e d f o r t h e m t o 10

h a v e a h e a r i n g , t h e y c a n e i t h e r h a v e 11

- - - r e q u e s t a h e a r i n g , o r t h e y c a n 12

p r e s e n t t o m a n a g e m e n t t h e i r b a c k g r o u n d 13

c h e c k t h a t r e p r e s e n t s w h a t M a y o r a n d 14

C o u n c i l i s a s k i n g f o r . A n d o n c e i t i s 15

c h e c k e d b y t h e m a n a g e r , a n d h e i s a b l e 16

t o s i g n o f f o n i t , t h e y c a n t h e n t a k e 17

i t b a c k t o t h e i r p e r s o n a l s e l v e s , a n d 18

t h a t w a y , i t w i l l n o t b e a b l e t o b e 19

p r e s e n t e d t o a n y o n e o t h e r t h a n t h e 20

m a n a g e r . 21

D o e s t h a t s u f f i c e ? 22

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 23

Y e s . 24

M A Y O R K U H N : 25

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A l l r i g h t . D o I h a v e a 1

m o t i o n f o r t h a t ? 2

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 3

I ' l l m a k e a m o t i o n , 4

M a y o r . 5

M A Y O R K U H N : 6

O k a y . D o I h a v e a 7

s e c o n d ? 8

M R . U N D E R W O O D : 9

M o t i o n m a d e a n d s e c o n d . 10

R o l l c a l l . 11

M S . S O R C E : 12

D e p u t y M a y o r S a p p ? 13

D E P U T Y M A Y O R S A P P : 14

Y e s . 15

M S . S O R C E : 16

M r . U n d e r w o o d ? 17

M R . U N D E R W O O D : 18

Y e s . 19

M S . S O R C E : 20

M r . P e t r u c c i ? 21

M R . P E T R U C C I : 22

Y e s . 23

M S . S O R C E : 24

M a y o r K u h n ? 25

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M A Y O R K U H N : 1

Y e s . T h a n k y o u a l l f o r 2

c o m i n g . 3

M R . A L E X A N D E R : 4

M o t i o n t o a d j o u r n ? 5

M A Y O R K U H N : 6

D o I h a v e a m o t i o n t o 7

a d j o u r n ? 8

M R . U N D E R W O O D : 9

M a y o r K u h n ? 10

M A Y O R K U H N : 11

C o u n c i l m a n U n d e r w o o d ? 12

M R . U N D E R W O O D : 13

I w o u l d l i k e t o m a k e a 14

m o t i o n t o a d j o u r n . 15

M A Y O R K U H N : 16

D o I h a v e a s e c o n d ? 17

M R . P E T R U C C I : 18

S e c o n d . 19

M A Y O R K U H N : 20

M o t i o n m a d e t o s e c o n d . 21

A l l i n f a v o r , s a y a y e . 22

A Y E S R E S P O N D 23

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M E E T I N G C O N C L U D E D 25

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