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AGENDA NFPA Technical Committee on Structures and Construction & Materials

NFPA 703 and NFPA 5000 Second Draft Meeting Tuesday, May 21, 2013

DoubleTree Hotel San Diego Downtown 1646 Front Street

San Diego, California

1. Call to Order. Call meeting to order by Chair, Peter Willse, at 8:00 a.m. on May 21, 2013 at the Double Tree Hotel, San Diego, California.

2. Self-introduction of Committee Members and Guests. For a current committee roster, pg. 2.

3. Approval of Previous Meeting Minutes. Approve the May 22-23, 2012 meeting minutes, pg. 4.

4. Staff’s report - T. Vecchiarelli – New Process PowerPoint Presentation, pg. 6.

5. NFPA 703 Second Draft (formerly ROC) Preparation. Public Comments to be

distributed before the meeting date.

6. NFPA 5000 Second Draft (formerly ROC) Preparation. Public Comments to be distributed before the meeting date.

7. Hazardous Areas, pg. 12.

8. Definitions Task Group, pg. 13.

9. Next Meeting.

10. Other Business.

11. Adjournment.

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Address List No PhoneStructures, Construction, and Materials BLD-SCM

Building Code

Tracy L. Vecchiarelli04/02/2013

BLD-SCMPeter J. WillseChairXL Global Asset Protection Services100 Constitution Plaza, 12th FloorHartford, CT 06103

I 3/21/2006BLD-SCM

Jesse J. BeitelPrincipalHughes Associates, Inc.3610 Commerce Drive, Suite 817Baltimore, MD 21227-1652

SE 3/21/2006

BLD-SCMPaul D. CoatsPrincipalAmerican Wood Council4695 Hannah DriveRock Hill, SC 29732Alternate: Dennis L. Pitts

M 3/1/2011BLD-SCM

David S. CollinsPrincipalThe Preview Group, Inc.632 Race StreetCincinnati, OH 45202American Institute of Architects

SE 3/21/2006

BLD-SCMRalph DorioPrincipalInsurance Services Office, Inc.545 Washington BoulevardJersey City, NJ 07310-1686

I 3/21/2006BLD-SCM

Jeffrey FeidPrincipalState Farm Insurance CompanyOne State Farm Plaza, D-1Bloomington, IL 61710-0001

I 3/21/2006

BLD-SCMWilliam E. FitchPrincipalPhyrefish.com31 SE 5th Street, Suite 3815Miami, FL 33131-2528

SE 3/1/2011BLD-SCM

Michael A. GardnerPrincipalGypsum Association6525 Belcrest Road, Suite 480Hyattsville, MD 20782Alternate: Robert A. Wessel

M 3/21/2006

BLD-SCMMark S. GrahamPrincipalNational Roofing Contractors Association10255 West Higgins Road, Suite 600Rosemont, IL 60018-5607

IM 10/4/2007BLD-SCM

J. C. HarringtonPrincipalFM Global1151 Boston Providence TurnpikePO Box 9102Norwood, MA 02062-9102Alternate: Richard J. Davis

I 3/21/2006

BLD-SCMJoseph T. HollandPrincipalHoover Treated Wood Products1225 North Halifax AvenueDaytona Beach, FL 32118Alternate: David G. Bueche

M 3/21/2006BLD-SCM

Karl D. HouserPrincipalEBL Engineers, LLCEBL Fire Engineering8005 Harford RoadBaltimore, MD 21234-5701Association of the Wall and Ceiling Industries International

IM 3/1/2011

BLD-SCMMoriel E. KaplanPrincipalAon Fire Protection Engineering6305 Ivy Lane, Suite 220Greenbelt, MD 20770

I 10/27/2009BLD-SCM

Bonnie E. ManleyPrincipalAmerican Iron and Steel Institute41 Tucker RoadNorfolk, MA 02056Alternate: Farid Alfawakhiri

M 3/21/2006

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Building Code

Tracy L. Vecchiarelli04/02/2013

BLD-SCMJoseph J. Messersmith, Jr.Principal11479 Primose LaneRockville, VA 23146Portland Cement Association

M 3/21/2006BLD-SCM

Eugene M. Novak, Jr.PrincipalCommonwealth of MassachusettsDepartment of Public Safety19 Partridge RoadFramingham, MA 01701-4242

E 3/21/2006

BLD-SCMKristen L. OwenPrincipalLonza Wood ProtectionArch Wood Protection2852 Raystone DriveValparaiso, IN 46384Alternate: Stephen C. Shields

M 10/18/2011BLD-SCM

Robert A. SpeedPrincipalNorth Carolina Office of the State Fire MarshalEngineering Division, Evaluation Services Section322 Chapanoke RoadRaleigh, NC 27603Alternate: Helen DiPietro

E 03/05/2012

BLD-SCMJoseph H. VersteegPrincipalVersteeg Associates86 University DriveTorrington, CT 06790International Fire Marshals Association

E 3/21/2006BLD-SCM

Farid AlfawakhiriAlternateAmerican Iron and Steel Institute380 Cottonwood LaneNaperville, IL 60540Principal: Bonnie E. Manley

M 7/23/2008

BLD-SCMDavid G. BuecheAlternateHoover Treated Wood Products13768 West Asbury CircleLakewood, CO 80228Principal: Joseph T. Holland

M 7/28/2006BLD-SCM

Richard J. DavisAlternateFM Global1151 Boston-Providence TurnpikePO Box 9102Norwood, MA 02062-9102Principal: J. C. Harrington

I 3/21/2006

BLD-SCMHelen DiPietroAlternateNorth Carolina Department of InsuranceOffice of State Fire MarshalMail Service Center 1202Raleigh, NC 27699-1202Principal: Robert A. Speed

E 10/29/2012BLD-SCM

Dennis L. PittsAlternateAmerican Wood Council1721 West Plano Parkway, #224Plano, TX 75075Principal: Paul D. Coats

M 3/21/2006

BLD-SCMStephen C. ShieldsAlternateArch Wood Protection, Inc., A Lonza Company5660 New Northside DriveAtlanta, GA 30328Principal: Kristen L. Owen

M 08/09/2012BLD-SCM

Robert A. WesselAlternateGypsum Association6525 Belcrest Road, Suite 480Hyattsville, MD 20782Principal: Michael A. Gardner

M 10/29/2012

BLD-SCMTracy L. VecchiarelliStaff LiaisonNational Fire Protection Association1 Batterymarch ParkQuincy, MA 02169-7471

01/04/2010

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BLDSCM 52012 FIRST DRAFT Meeting Minutes / Page 1

COMMITTEES ON NFPA BUILDING CODE Technical Committee on Structures, Construction and Materials

NFPA 703 and 5000 First Draft Meeting Minutes Tuesday-Wednesday, May 22-23, 2012

Indianapolis Convention Center Indianapolis, IN

1. Call to Order. The meeting was called to order by Chair Peter Willse at 1:00 p.m. on May 22, 2012 at the Indianapolis Convention Center, Indianapolis, IN.

2. Introduction of Committee Members and Guests. TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT

NAME COMPANY Peter J. Willse, Chair XL Global Asset Protection Services Tracy Golinveaux, (Staff-Nonvoting) National Fire Protection Association Paul D. Coats, Principal American Wood Council Jeffrey Feid, Principal State Farm Insurance Company William E. Fitch, Principal Phyrefish.com Mark S. Graham, Principal National Roofing Contractors Association J.C. Harrington, Principal FM Global Joseph T. Holland, Principal Hoover Treated Wood Products Kristen J. Owen, Principal Arch Wood Protection, Inc. A. Lonza

Company Robert A. Speed, Principal North Carolina Office of the State Fire

Marshal Joseph H. Versteeg, Principal Versteeg Associates

Rep: International Fire Marshals Assn. David G. Bueche Alt. to Joseph T. Holland

Hoover Treated Wood Products

Moriel E. Kaplan, Voting Alternate to AON Rep.

Aon Schirmer Engineering Corporation

GUESTS

NAME COMPANY Jonathan Humble American Iron and Steel Institute

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TECHNICAL COMMITTEE MEMBERS NOT PRESENT

NAME COMPANY Jesse J. Beitel, Principal Hughes Associates, Inc. David S. Collins, Principal The Preview Group, Inc.

Rep: American Institute of Architects Ralph Dorio, Principal Insurance Services Office, Inc. Michael A. Gardner, Principal Gypsum Association Karl D. Houser, Principal EBL Engineers, LLC

Rep: Association of the Wall and Ceiling Industries International

Bonnie E. Manley, Principal American Iron and Steel Institute Joseph J. Messersmith, Jr., Principal Rep: Portland Cement Association Eugene M. Novak, Jr., Principal Commonwealth of Massachusetts/Dept. of

Public Safety

3. Approval of Prior Meeting Minutes. The October 5, 2010 meeting minutes were approved as written and distributed.

4. The New Process Review and Staff Liaison Report. Allan Fraser presented the New

Process Review and Tracy Golinveaux reviewed the meeting actions and staff report.

5. NFPA 703 First Draft (formerly ROP) Preparation. The committee reviewed all of the submitted Public Inputs and developed First Revisions.

6. NFPA 5000 First Draft (formerly ROP) Preparation. The committee reviewed all of the submitted Public Inputs and developed First Revisions.

7. Suggested Editorial Revisions. The recommended editorial revisions were included in the agenda package and were reviewed as part of the First Draft Preparations.

8. Other Business.

9. Future Meetings. The proposed Second Draft meeting date is May 21, 2013. The location is TBD.

10. Adjournment. The meeting was adjourned at 6:00pm on May 22, 2012.

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NFPA Second Draft MeetingNFPA Second Draft Meeting

NFPA 101/5000Structures, Construction,

Materials

May 20, 2013

San Diego, CA

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At this and all NFPA committee meetings we are concerned with your safety

If the fire alarm sounds, pleaseIf the fire alarm sounds, please proceed to an exit

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Members, please verify/update your contact information

Use of tape recorders or other means capable of reproducing verbatimcapable of reproducing verbatim transcriptions of this meeting is not permitted

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GuestsAll guests are asked to sign in and

identify their affiliations

Participation is limited to TC members or those individuals who have previously requested time to address the committee

Other participation is granted at the discretion of the Chair

Guest seating is located around the room

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Members categorized in ANY interest category who have been retained to represent the interests of ANOTHER interest category must declare those interests to the committee and refrain from voting, both in the meeting and on the ballot item

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General ProceduresFollow Robert’s Rules of Order

Di i i tiDiscussion requires a motion

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Motions for Ending Debate - Move Previous Question or “Call the Question”Not in order when another has the floor

Requires a second

This motion is not debatable and does not automatically stop debate

A 2/3 affirmative vote immediately closes debate and returns to the original motion on the floor

Less then 2/3 allows debate to continue

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Committee member actions:

Member addresses the chair Receives recognition from the chair I t d th ti Introduces the motion Another member seconds the

motion

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Committee chair actions:

States the motionCalls for discussionEnsures all issues have been heardTakes the voteAnnounces the result of the vote

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Technical Committee on Building ConstructionConsumer, 0 Member: 0%Enforcer, 3 Members: 16%Insurance 5 Member: 26%Insurance, 5 Member: 26%Manufacturer, 6 Members: 32%Research & Testing, 0 Member: 0%Special Expert, 3 Members: 16%User, 0 Members: 0%Installer/Maintainer, 2 Members: 11%Labor, 0 Members: 0%

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Timeline

Comment Stage (Second Draft):Public Comment Closing Date: 05/03/2013Second Draft Meeting: TodayPosting of Second Draft for TC Balloting: 08/23/2013Posting of Second Draft for TC Balloting: 08/23/2013Posting of Second Draft for NITMAM: 01/03/2014

Tech Session Preparation:NITMAM Closing Date: 02/07/2014NITMAM /CAM Posting Date: 04/04/2014NFPA Annual Meeting: 06/09-12/2014 (Las Vegas)

Standards Council Issuance: Issuance of Documents with CAM: 08/14/2014 edition date

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NFPA Second Draft MeetingNFPA Second Draft MeetingNew Process New Process –– What’s New?What’s New?

Changes in Terms:New Term Old Term

Comment Stage ROC Stage

Public Comment Public Comment

Second Draft Meeting ROC Meeting

Second RevisionCommittee Comment or Accepted

Public Comment

Committee Comment(a Second Revision that failed

ballot)

(a Comment reported as Rejected due to failed ballot)

Second Draft Report ROC

Second Draft ROC Draft

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• Technical Committee Actions:

Resolving Public CommentsResolving Public Comments Committee Action and Committee Statement

Creating Second Revisions

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• Resolving Public Comments (See Regs §4.4.8.1)Committee develops a Committee Action Accept

Reject but see…

Reject

Reject but Hold

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• Committee StatementsCommittee must clearly indicate reasons for not

accepting the recommendation and/or point to a relevant Second RevisionAll Public Comments Actions must have a

Committee StatementCommittee StatementMust include a valid technical reasonNo vague references to “intent”Explain how the submitter’s substantiation is

inadequateNeither Public Comment Actions nor Committee

Statements get balloted

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• Create a Second Revision (SR)Committee wants to make a change (to

add, delete or modify) the First Draft

Committee develops a Committee Statement (CS) substantiating the change

Each SR gets balloted

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No “new material” after the Public Input Stage since it hasn’t had the benefit of public review

What constitutes new material is decided by th T h i l C itt C l tithe Technical Committee or Correlating Committee

Adding “new material” at the Comment Stage could successfully be challenged through appeal to the Standards Council

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Formal voting Voting during meeting is used to

establish a sense of agreement (simple majority)(simple majority)

Secured by letter ballot (2/3 agreement)Only the results of the formal ballot

determine the official position of the committee on the Second Draft

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Ballots are on the Second Revisions (SR) ONLYPublic Comment Actions and Committee

Statements not ballotedReference materials are available - Second Draft, Public Comments, First Draft Report

Ballot form allows you to vote: Ballot form allows you to vote: Affirmative on all SRAffirmative on all SR with exceptions specifically

noted Ballot form provides a column for affirmative

with commentNote: This box needs to be checked only if there

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Initial ballot

Circulation of negatives and comments

Members may change votes during circulationcirculation

Second Revision that fails letter ballot is designated as a Committee Comment (in the 2nd Draft Report), marked as “Reject” and deleted from the Second Draft.

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If a Second Revision fails ballot and the subject text was a result of a First Draft change, a Supplementary Ballot is conducted

Ballot asks TC if it still favors the First Revision change reported in the First DraftIf Y h S d If Yes, same change appears as Second Revision and is shown in the Second Draft

If No, the change appears as a Committee Comment (rejected) and the text reverts to previous edition

See Regs §4.4.10.2.1

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Electronic Balloting Electronic Balloting • Ballots will be an online format• Alternates are strongly encouraged

to return ballots

• Ballot session will time out after 90 minutes

• Use “submit” to save your work

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Electronic Balloting Electronic Balloting

Click link on the ballot email received

Sign in with NFPA.org Committee Login and Password

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Select either Affirmative on All or Affirmative with Exception(s)

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Use “See FR/SR - #” link to review all First/Second Revisions

Use “Edit election” to change individual votes or to modify vote after submitting ballot

Choosing AFFIRMATIVE ON ALL

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Make selection: Affirmative with Comment, Negative, or Abstain

No selection made-defaults to affirmative Must include comment on each vote

Choosing AFFIRMATIVE WITH EXCEPTION(S)

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To complete ballot click Participant Consent and Submit

Return and edit any votes before ballot due date

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TC Struggles with an Issue

• TC needs data on a new technology or

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Code Fund Lends a Hand

• TC rep and/or staff liaison submits a C d F d

Research Project Carried Out

• Funding for project is provided by th C d F demerging

issue• Two opposing

views on an issue with no real data

• Data presented is not trusted by committee

Code Fund Request

• Requests are reviewed by a Panel and chosen based on need / feasibility

the Code Fund and/or industry sponsors

• Project is completed and data is available to TC

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Antitrust: the single most important provision- Federal law prohibits contracts, combinations, or conspiracies which unreasonably restrain trade or commerce Section 1 of the Sherman Act

Patent: Disclosures of essential patent claims should be made by the patent holder, but others may also notify NFPA if they believe that a proposed or existing NFPA standard includes an essential patent claim

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Activities Disapproved by the CourtsPacking meetings

Hiding commercial interest throwing the committees out of balance

No final decision-making authority to unbalanced Task Groups; include all interested parties

Hiding scientific or technical information from committees

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Hazardous Areas Attachment The Minutes item from the SAF-AAC Correlating Committee’s November 6, 2012 meeting follows:

• Hazardous Materials. Jeff Tubbs raised the issue of whether NFPA 101 should address hazardous materials (as done in NFPA 5000 Chapter 34). The committee noted that health hazards are not within the scope of NFPA 101. Conflicts exist among the NFPA codes. It was agreed to: o Add the subject of hazardous materials to the agenda for all NFPA 101 technical committee Second Draft meetings o Gather comments from each technical committee including whether it

wants to participate in a task group on the subject of hazardous materials o Report results to the Correlating Committee at its Second Draft review meeting o Ask the Standards Council, after the Correlating Committee’s Second Draft meeting, to establish a task group from the membership of the NFPA 1, 30, 101, 400 and 5000 committees to address conflicts and overlapping requirements related to hazardous materials

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Cote, Ron

From: Cote, RonSent: Wednesday, November 21, 2012 2:33 PMTo: Bigda, Kristin; Harrington, Greg; Fraser, Allan; Vecchiarelli, TracyCc: Solomon, RobertSubject: SAF Agenda Item for Second Draft Meetings

Please add the subject of Definitions to each SAF/BLD technical committee Second Draft meeting agenda for which you serve as staff liaison. Each Technical Committee chair is asked to identify a member to serve on the definitions task group. The Minutes item from the SAF-AAC Correlating Committee’s November 6, 2012 meeting follows:

Definitions. The committee agreed to have each defined term assigned to a specific technical committee so that committee would have responsibility for the maintenance and revision of such term. A task group is to be formed after the Second Draft meetings of the current revision cycle. The task group will report to the Correlating Committee (CC) its recommendations for the definitions assignments in time for the CC to review the recommendations at its first meeting of the 2018 revision cycle. Each Technical Committee chair is asked to identify a member to serve on the task group.

Allan and Tracy, the BLD-AAC Correlating Committee asked that same be done by the NFPA 5000 TCs. Ron Coté, P.E. Principal Life Safety Engineer NFPA - Quincy, MA USA

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