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P91 and Beyond
William F. Newell, Jr., PE, IWE
, Ltd.
IPEIA Conference
1-3 February 2006
The Banff Centre
Banff, Alberta
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SCOPE
Where Weve Been
Where Were At
Where Were Going
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P(T)91 Origin
Developed by ORNL for Clinch
River Breeder Reactor Early and Continued EuropeanExperience
Domestic Acceptance Minimaluntil Recently
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Domestic Reluctance - Why?
Manditory:
Elevated Preheat
Interpass TemperatureControls
PWHT Required on
EVERYTHING!P(T)91* is NOTjust another
CrMo ! (the others too !)
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Compare: B2/B3 to B9/505Mod.
T/P 22 T/P 91
Preheat Always Always !
PWHT Sometimes Always !
N & T(after cold work) Sometimes Always !
CMTR Rarely Always !
Toughness Rarely Always !
Post Bake Rarely Always ! (except GTAW)
Cool to
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WHY?
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Current P(T)91 Usage
Dramatic Domestic Increase in
Last Several Years
Use Mainly for Cogeneration
Utility Usage increasing forRepowering, Replacements &New Facilities
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Possibilities
P91, P92, E911
T23, T24
P122
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Base Metal
Base Material Specifications
P91 P92 E911 T23 T24 P122
Cr 8.00-9.50 8.50-9.50 8.50-9.50 1.9-2.6 2.2-2.6 10.00-
12.50Ni
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Major Differences
P92 (like P91, but with .5%Mo &1.7%W)
E911 (like P91, but with 1%W)
T23 (like P92, but with only 2%Cr)
T24 (like T22, but with V+Ti+B)
P122 (like P92, but with 11%Cr + 1%Cu)
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Advanced CrMos
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ASME Code Cases
Trade Name Grade Material (seamless) CodeCase Issue Date
NF616 P92 9Cr-2W 2179 8 August 94
HCM12A P122 12Cr-2W 2180 8 August 94
HCM2A T23 2.25Cr-1.6W-V-Cb 2199 5 June 95
E911 E911 9Cr-1M0-W-Cb 2327 2 May 00
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Welding Consumables
Welding Consumables
P91 P92 E911 T23 T24 P122
SMAW Chromet 9B9E9015-B9Chromet 92
*Chromet 91W
Chromet
10MW
Chromet 23Chromet 23L
Special*
GTAW9CrMoV
ER90S-B99CrWV
*
? 2CrMoWV Special
*
FCAWSupercore F91
E91T1-B9
Supercore F92
*
Cormet 10MW
*
Supercore F23
*N/A
SAWCormet M91
9CrMoV
EB9
9CrWV
*
* * Special
*
Potential
Patent
Issues
* No applicable National Standards.
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Caution Areas
Design
Heat Treatment
Low Bidder
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From the Net..
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Caution: (design)
Dissimilar
Welds !
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Caution: Dissimilar Welds !
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Design
1.25Cr 1Mo VP91
PipeValve
E9018-B3Weld
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PWHT Reqd by Valve Mfg.
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Dissimilar Strengths
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Design
P91
Pipe
1.25Cr 1Mo V
Valve
E9018-B3
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Caution: Dissimilar Welds
Materials may NOT relax atoperating temperature
Watch thickness changes
Choose Weld Metal Carefully
Design PWHT Carefully
Do not exceed A1 of base or weld metal
Assure tempering
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Dissimilar Welds - Solutions
Consider using transitions
Machined transition to changesection thickness
Pup Pieces
Multiple PWHTs
Where A1s are significantly different Nickel Base Butter
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Caution (heat ?)
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PreheatMaintenance ?
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Low Bidder
Simple: You get what you payfor.$$$
Low Overhead usually meansminimal technical expertise
Susies Botique and Weld Shop
Offshore Enterprises
May have technical ability, but manythings dont translate well .!
ASME Codes and USA ContractDocuments may be gathering dust..
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Low Bidder ?
Pay Me Now, or Pay Me Later Fram Co rp. 1971
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ASME Code Changes(proposed)
ASME I,PW-39; ASME VIII, Div.1,Part UCS; CC 2179 [P92]; CC 2180[P122]; CC 2192 [Cast P91] CC
2199 [T23]; CC 2327 [E911] New Temperature Minimums
< = 1325 -14700F (720-8000C)
> = 1350 -14700F (730-8000C)
Rules if heated above 14700F(8000C)
Why 14700F (8000C) ?
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Beyond the CrMos !
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Beyond the CrMos
Alloy Nominal Composition Developer
Haynes 230 57Ni-22Cr-14W-2Mo-La Haynes
INCO 740 50Ni-25Cr-20Co-2Ti-
2Nb-V-Al
Special Metals
CCA 617 55Ni-22Cr-.3W-8Mo-11Co-Al
VDM
HR6W 43Ni-23Cr-6W-Nb-Ti-B
SumitomoSuper 304H 18Cr-8Ni-W-Nb-N
Save 12 12Cr-W-Co-V-Nb-N
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Back to the Future
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Conclusions
-B9 (P91), T23, T24, P92 & P122Base Material & ConsumablesAvailable, proceed with caution
T24 & 122 Consumables Special
Caution: Dissimilar Connections
PWHT is Key to Success
Beyond the CrMos ????
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Questions
?
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References
Viswanathan, R., et al; U.S. Program on MaterialsTechnology for USC Plants*
Masuyama, F.; Alloy Development and MaterialIssues with Increasing Steam Temperature*
Scarlin, Brendon, et al Materials developments forultrasupercritical steam turbines*
Henry, J.F.; Advanced Supercritical Technology: Backto the Future*
Maile, K. et al; Development and Qualification of New
Boiler and Piping Materials for High Efficiency USCPlants*
Euroweld Seminar; June 2005; Columbus, Ohio*Fourth International Conference on Advances in Materials Technology for Fossil Power Plants,October 25-28, 2004, Hilton Head Island, South Carolina