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online multilingualism
chris waiglbarcamp london 5
2008-09-28
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 2
Do you speak several languages?
Is your native language not English?
Are you a web developer (or designer, or project or product manager)?
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 3
goal: opening the conversation
facts: what languages are web users... using? how?
think: how could this change my practice?
imagine: where is the web going? where should it be going?
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 4
347 languages > 1Mio speakers
5% of languages → 95% of speakers
75 language > 10Mio speaker
1.2% of languages → 79% of speakers
languages and speakers
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 5
the largest languages
1 language 850-900Mio first-language speakers: Mandarin
3 languages 300-350Mio first-language speakers: Spanish, Hindi, English
But: English has 2.5-3 times as many second-language fluent speakers than first-language speakers
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 6
second-language speakers
unilingualism is a privilege of rich, developed countries
the world's population is massively multilingual
Language proficiency changes fast
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 7
the (near-future) internet users:
typically do not use English as a first language
use hundreds of languages overall
typically read several languages
Online multilingualism, l10n, i18n is a user experience problem→
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 8
multilingualism in UX resources
UX resources pretty much totally neglect the language problem
in the best case, l10n is planned from the outset
UX testing with non-primary language speakers and mutlilingual testers – who does this?
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 9
type of site/app (non-exhaustive)
commercial: any language i read is ok!
search in all my languages. at once. communities:
i want to post in all my languagesi don't want to deal with (read) content i don't
understand→ the monolingual/multilingual dilemma
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 10
erasing misconceptions
country language⇏ language country⇏ country flags are a bad idea for
representing languages
“Let's just start with English and think about other languages later.”
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 11
example: Facebook
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 12
example: Google
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 13
example: PayPal
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 14
example: Paypal
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 15
other examples
Amazon.com
stackoverflow.com
Wikipedia
last.fm
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 16
elements for technical solutions
HTML attributes: hreflang, lang, xml:lang
what does the user want? OS language, browser Accept-Language request header
test test test: copy-and-paste context in many scripts in your input forms
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 17
do you know how the development stack you work with handles Unicode?
full text indexing in UTF-8?
diacritics / Unicode normalization: o ≠ ȯ (U+006F U+0307 ≠ U+022F)
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 18
resources: Stephanie Booth
“While we wait for the Babelfish” Google TechTalk
“While we wait for the Babelfish” on SlideShare
(on multilingual/monolingual mixed communities & multilingual blogging)
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 19
and now?
if the Open Web is about making the web the next repository for global knowledge
and interactions, we must answer the online mono-/multilingualism question.
what can you contribute?
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 1
online multilingualism
chris waiglbarcamp london 5
2008-09-28
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 2
Do you speak several languages?
Is your native language not English?
Are you a web developer (or designer, or project or product manager)?
![Page 22: Online Multilingualism (Barcamp London 5)](https://reader034.fdocuments.us/reader034/viewer/2022052523/5556ca99d8b42ad94d8b511d/html5/thumbnails/22.jpg)
Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 3
goal: opening the conversation
facts: what languages are web users... using? how?
think: how could this change my practice?
imagine: where is the web going? where should it be going?
![Page 23: Online Multilingualism (Barcamp London 5)](https://reader034.fdocuments.us/reader034/viewer/2022052523/5556ca99d8b42ad94d8b511d/html5/thumbnails/23.jpg)
Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 4
347 languages > 1Mio speakers
5% of languages → 95% of speakers
75 language > 10Mio speaker
1.2% of languages → 79% of speakers
Gliederung durch Klicken hinzufügen
languages and speakers
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 5
the largest languages
1 language 850-900Mio first-language speakers: Mandarin
3 languages 300-350Mio first-language speakers: Spanish, Hindi, English
But: English has 2.5-3 times as many second-language fluent speakers than first-language speakers
![Page 25: Online Multilingualism (Barcamp London 5)](https://reader034.fdocuments.us/reader034/viewer/2022052523/5556ca99d8b42ad94d8b511d/html5/thumbnails/25.jpg)
Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 6
second-language speakers
unilingualism is a privilege of rich, developed countries
the world's population is massively multilingual
Language proficiency changes fast
![Page 26: Online Multilingualism (Barcamp London 5)](https://reader034.fdocuments.us/reader034/viewer/2022052523/5556ca99d8b42ad94d8b511d/html5/thumbnails/26.jpg)
Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 7
the (near-future) internet users:
typically do not use English as a first language
use hundreds of languages overall
typically read several languages
Online multilingualism, l10n, i18n is a user experience problem→
![Page 27: Online Multilingualism (Barcamp London 5)](https://reader034.fdocuments.us/reader034/viewer/2022052523/5556ca99d8b42ad94d8b511d/html5/thumbnails/27.jpg)
Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 8
multilingualism in UX resources
UX resources pretty much totally neglect the language problem
in the best case, l10n is planned from the outset
UX testing with non-primary language speakers and mutlilingual testers – who does this?
![Page 28: Online Multilingualism (Barcamp London 5)](https://reader034.fdocuments.us/reader034/viewer/2022052523/5556ca99d8b42ad94d8b511d/html5/thumbnails/28.jpg)
Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 9
type of site/app (non-exhaustive)
commercial: any language i read is ok!
search in all my languages. at once. communities:
i want to post in all my languagesi don't want to deal with (read) content i don't
understand→ the monolingual/multilingual dilemma
![Page 29: Online Multilingualism (Barcamp London 5)](https://reader034.fdocuments.us/reader034/viewer/2022052523/5556ca99d8b42ad94d8b511d/html5/thumbnails/29.jpg)
Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 10
erasing misconceptions
country language⇏ language country⇏ country flags are a bad idea for
representing languages
“Let's just start with English and think about other languages later.”
![Page 30: Online Multilingualism (Barcamp London 5)](https://reader034.fdocuments.us/reader034/viewer/2022052523/5556ca99d8b42ad94d8b511d/html5/thumbnails/30.jpg)
Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 11
example: Facebook
Gliederung durch Klicken hinzufügen
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 12
example: Google
Gliederung durch Klicken hinzufügen
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 13
example: PayPal
Gliederung durch Klicken hinzufügen
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 14
example: Paypal
Gliederung durch Klicken hinzufügen
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 15
other examples
Amazon.com
stackoverflow.com
Wikipedia
last.fm
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Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 16
elements for technical solutions
HTML attributes: hreflang, lang, xml:lang
what does the user want? OS language, browser Accept-Language request header
test test test: copy-and-paste context in many scripts in your input forms
![Page 36: Online Multilingualism (Barcamp London 5)](https://reader034.fdocuments.us/reader034/viewer/2022052523/5556ca99d8b42ad94d8b511d/html5/thumbnails/36.jpg)
Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 17
Titel durch Klicken hinzufügen
do you know how the development stack you work with handles Unicode?
full text indexing in UTF-8?
diacritics / Unicode normalization: o ≠ ȯ (U+006F U+0307 ≠ U+022F)
![Page 37: Online Multilingualism (Barcamp London 5)](https://reader034.fdocuments.us/reader034/viewer/2022052523/5556ca99d8b42ad94d8b511d/html5/thumbnails/37.jpg)
Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 18
resources: Stephanie Booth
“While we wait for the Babelfish” Google TechTalk
“While we wait for the Babelfish” on SlideShare
(on multilingual/monolingual mixed communities & multilingual blogging)
![Page 38: Online Multilingualism (Barcamp London 5)](https://reader034.fdocuments.us/reader034/viewer/2022052523/5556ca99d8b42ad94d8b511d/html5/thumbnails/38.jpg)
Chris Waigl | Barcamp London 5 | 2008-09-28 19
and now?
if the Open Web is about making the web the next repository for global knowledge
and interactions, we must answer the online mono-/multilingualism question.
what can you contribute?